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Spasstomreyn, do you have "xscreensaver" package installed? if yes try to remove it, but that's just a blind guess00:04
brainwashprobably the case00:05
brainwashor gnome-screensaver if that thing is still available00:05
brainwashtomreyn: or https://github.com/the-cavalry/light-locker/issues/8700:11
tomreynright, gnome-screensaver is running00:37
tomreynit's not ticked on the session and startup list, though00:39
brainwashtomreyn: did you figure out why gnome-screensaver is started?08:27
jarnosWhy is the caret needed? https://xubuntu.org/news/introducing-xubuntu-core/09:41
jarnosI think it chould not match anything as it is the last character.09:42
Spasscorrect me if I'm wrong, but I think this article was written before "xubuntu-core" package was included in the repos, so that command uses tasksel task09:54
Spassand I guess the caret isn't needed anymore09:54
Spassjarnos, https://shantanugoel.com/2010/10/23/apt-get-caret/09:56
brainwashSpass: it is needed10:46
brainwashSpass: see bug 175487210:46
ubottubug 1754872 in xubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) "gnome-control-center is unusable on xubuntu-desktop, but called from Gear (About this Computer, System Settings) icon, Text Entry Settings, clock (Time & Date Settings)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175487210:46
brainwashmostly read my last comments in that report10:47
brainwash(the issue applies to xubuntu-core also)10:49
tomreynbrainwash: i think it was still started from when i had been running gdm. i've since rebooted and it's not running now.13:06
brainwashtomreyn: so, everything working properly now?13:08
tomreynnot really. if the screen goes off now, when i reactivate it i ghet a black screen with a frozen mouse pointer.13:17
tomreynand there's no way to recover from it other than a reboot. systemctl stop lightdm gets stuck, doesn't return to the shell. and recovering the running session is impossible.13:18
tomreynand after reboot i get to see this http://i.imgur.com/divQyJX.png13:23
brainwashoh boy13:28
brainwashthat is light-locker-settings though13:29
brainwashthe configuration app for light-locker13:29
tomreynyes, i had opened it to see whether my settings are still correct13:29
tomreynsadly, this 'experience' drives me right back to ubuntu proper. at lest for now,13:30
tomreyni'dl ike to help debugging more but i really need a stable desktop13:30
brainwashI think l-l-s is not even needed in 18.04. the settings can be accessed via the power manager settings.13:30
tomreynthe unrecoverable black screen is more of a concern, though ;)13:31
brainwashyep13:31
hk238hi I have xubuntu on another system the /boot drive gets filled up with initrd files and runs out of space so you cant update16:00
hk238anyway to fix this?16:01
diogenes_hk238, 16.04?16:19
hk238I dont know which version this is16:38
diogenes_hk238, terminal > lsb_release -a16:56
hk23816.0416:56
diogenes_1st what you did wrong is that you made a separate /boot partition 2nd try in terminal: sudo apt autoremove16:57
hk238yeah17:09
hk238it's pretty  common to make a separate boot partition and xubuntu didn't make any effort saying it wasn't a good idea17:09
diogenes_it's not xubuntu's thing, it's the common mistake that all the new users come across at some point17:10
diogenes_i was not an exception17:10
hk238so far only with xubuntu I've had this problem :D17:12
hk238but yeah at least it's a lesson learned, maybe I'll make a bigger boot partition next time, or won't make a separate one17:12
hk238but currently the fix seems to be reinstalling linux :o17:13
diogenes_yeah, don't make a separate /boot17:13
hk238or can also make a larger boot17:30
knomeif xubuntu notified users every time they do something that might not be a good idea, it would be full of disclaimer popups...19:00
knomei guess the installer could mention this, but that would be generic *buntu*, not something the xubuntu developers would engineer19:01
Stek_Turkuhi all23:01
Stek_Turkuon my 64 bit notebook i have installed a 32 bit 16.04 lts (root partition and home partition are different). Can i install xubuntu 18.04 lts 64 bit over the previous 32 bit? can i use the same home partition? what does it happen on my dara and my 32 bit progscalready installed?23:04
Spasshello Stek_Turku, first of all - backup all your important data before doing anything. I think you'll be completely fine installing 64-bit 18.04 on that "/" partition (and formatting it) and choosing your existing /home partition to be used23:31
Stek_Turku@Spass: Thanks23:33
SpassI don't think that there's any architecture related stuff on /home, but maybe someone more knowledgable here will confirm23:33

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