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ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> I didn't realize this today, but the Q&A was 1 hour and 1 second long03:44
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> man we're good03:44
ubptgbot<exar_kun> @UniversalSuperBox, Nice timing ;)04:06
ubptgbot<exar_kun> Like a train in Japan 🙈04:07
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> @exar_kun, I've got the notes written, but I'm working on a thooper theecret project where I'll put putting them04:07
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Stay tuned... should be about thirty minutes or so04:07
ubptgbot<exar_kun> haha all right!04:07
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> The thooper theecret project was an Etherpad instance, for curous eyes04:33
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> [Edit] The thooper theecret project was an Etherpad instance, for curious eyes04:34
ubptgbot<geotechland> @UniversalSuperBox that reminds me, any chance you will post QA and general videos on Peertube? You guys can choose an instance or host your own videos :)06:44
ubptgbot<Stereofont> @geotechland, That looks very interesting. A work in progress as far as I can see. The other problem is that nobody has heard of it or uses it … Very much fits our ethos though07:55
ubptgbot<Bolly> Welcome @sudoroos !!! Check out https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome to get you started, we have language groups available.08:26
ubptgbot<Stereofont> Live broadcast is presumably not available yet and I am guessing that content uploaded by us to YouTube becomes 'owned' by Google, removing our right to post 'our' content anywhere else?08:57
ubptgbot<geotechland> True but they have a diaspora which works the same way and not many people use it.08:58
ubptgbot<geotechland> I help mod an instance peertube.social if you know anyone that wants to join :)08:59
ubptgbot<geotechland> They could join that one or others, or start there own just for their videos08:59
ubptgbot<Stereofont> Certainly something we need to discuss09:00
ubptgbot<Stereofont> @geotechland, Are you in the Matrix UBports group?09:03
ubptgbotrr rr was added by: rr rr09:54
ubptgbot<Bolly> Welcome rr !!! Check this put for more about UBports https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome10:07
ubptgbot<rr rr> How to install ub touch in Nokia xl10:07
ubptgbot<Bolly> If you'll look at our devices list, you'll see that the Nokia xl is not there, unfortunately. You could try to port UT to it if you have the experience! … This is the list of supported devices http://ubuntu-touch.io/devices … You can try to port it yourself https://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/porting/introduction.html10:10
ubptgbot<Bolly> [Edit] If you'll look at our devices list, you'll see that the Nokia xl is not there, unfortunately. You could try to port UT to it if you have the experience! … This is the list of supported devices https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io/ … You can try to port it yourself https://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/porting/introduction.html10:10
ubptgbot<Stereofont> Sounds familiar …10:10
ubptgbot<Bolly> 😜10:11
ubptgbot<Stereofont> A hard job finding a device with so little RAM and therefore incapable of running Ubuntu Touch10:11
ubptgbot<Stereofont> 😉10:12
ubptgbot<rr rr> Pls upload link for ub touch for Motorola g312:10
ubptgbot<njlyf2011> @rr rr, Moto G3 dont have its offical version of UT,you can read the UBports Documention and try to port UT on your device.13:20
ubptgbot<njlyf2011> And I think it's right to try to find it yourself before asking for resources, at least on our local network.13:23
ubptgbot<rr rr> Pls send halium for android 6.01. And compatible flash file for Motorola g313:27
ubptgbot<njlyf2011> Couldn't you port it by youself?13:28
ubptgbot<njlyf2011> Here is NOT a help desk.13:29
ubptgbot<Stereofont> This is also not a troll friendly place 😐13:33
ubptgbot<rr rr> If u have that it will be greate13:34
ubptgbot<njlyf2011> @Stereofont, Sorry.13:39
ubptgbot<artP2> @rr rr, I'm trying to port halium for moto G3, but don't boot for now13:59
ubptgbot<Stereofont> @njlyf2011, Oh. I wasn't referring to you 😉14:08
ubptgbot<njlyf2011> I don't know English proverbs very much. I thought troll-friendly means unfriendly...14:11
ubptgbot<njlyf2011> ...14:11
ubptgbot<njlyf2011> I misunderstood it.14:12
ubptgbot<dohbee> @Stereofont, I'm pretty sure Google does not own our content. There'd be no (legal) music videos, shows, movies, etc from all the big labels if so.14:12
ubptgbot<Stereofont> Sorry. I was not commenting on you behaviour. I agree with the comments you made 😊14:13
ubptgbot<njlyf2011> oh...14:13
ubptgbot<Stereofont> [Edit] Sorry. I was not commenting on your behaviour. I agree with the comments you made 😊14:14
ubptgbot<Stereofont> My apologies for the confusion14:20
ubptgbot<YougoChats> Hi, is there currently an open bug for disappearing wifi toggles? (Fp2 devel r 444)14:31
ubptgbot<Flohack> @rr rr, We dont have, sry.14:31
ubptgbot<rr rr> Sorry l think u guys are interested in developing ub touch.isn't?14:40
ubptgbot<YougoChats> @YougoChats, Found it14:43
ubptgbot<samuele963> @Stereofont, r/xdacirclejerk is full of this haha … I doubt it's a troll, just probably someone that didn't read on the website apart from the front page14:55
ubptgbot<amolith> Anyone know if there's going to be a kdeconnect app for UT?14:58
ubptgbot<vanyasem> @amolith, if someone makes it, then yes. if nobody does, then no15:08
ubptgbot<vanyasem> it's a community project :P15:08
ubptgbot<amolith> @vanyasem, I mean I heard a while ago that there was development on a version for UT ut I haven't heard anything since then15:09
ubptgbot<vanyasem> there is an experimental kdeconnect app for plasma mobile, you might be interested in that15:09
ubptgbot<amolith> @vanyasem, [Edit] I mean I heard a while ago that there was development on a version for UT but I haven't heard anything since then15:09
ubptgbot<vanyasem> @amolith, then ask the person who was making it directly :P15:09
ubptgbot<amolith> @vanyasem, I have absolutely no idea who was making :P15:10
ubptgbot<amolith> @vanyasem, I15:10
ubptgbot<amolith> @vanyasem, [Edit] I'll look into it. Thank you!15:10
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> i'm interested in that too hehe15:48
ubptgbotØjvind Fritjof Arnfred was added by: Øjvind Fritjof Arnfred16:56
ubptgbot<advocatux> @Øjvind Fritjof Arnfred, Hi Øjvind, welcome.! Take a look to https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome to get you started16:58
ubptgbot<Øjvind Fritjof Arnfred> Hello … I'm very new to alll of this. So much great stuff going on it seems! I would like to know if there is any significant difference between running Ubuntu Touch on a Nexs 5 with 16 and 32 GB?16:59
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> None, except you'll have more space. :)17:00
ubptgbot<lindisfarne> Grand, cheers! Looking at buying a used phone and trying to decide. Will probably go with the one wit the intact screen then.17:01
ubptgbot<lindisfarne> Great work you guys are doing!17:02
ubptgbot<advocatux> You're part of the UBports community too now 👍17:02
ubptgbot<Flohack> @rr rr, We are not only interested, we are developing it17:04
ubptgbot<lindisfarne> Thank you! I'm a bit of a n00b, on the technical side I'm afraid. But if I can help with any form of translation (english to danish) I'm more than happy to assist.17:04
ubptgbot<advocatux> @lindisfarne, Take a look to https://translate.ubports.com/ then :)17:05
ubptgbot<Stereofont> https://t.me/UBports_scandinavia17:06
ubptgbot<lindisfarne> Thank you very much!17:08
ubptgbot<advocatux> You're welcome !!17:08
ScottPilgrimHello, ubports. First time user of Ubuntu Touch on Nexus. I want to write programs.18:18
ubptgbot<dohbee> Great18:19
ubptgbot<advocatux> @ScottPilgrim, Hi, do you know any programming language already?18:21
ScottPilgrimPretty proficient in c++ and I have dabbled in Qt18:23
ScottPilgrim@ubptgbot just installed Kubuntu 18, and noticed that QtCreator can't use ubuntu-sdk plugins anymore :(18:23
ubptgbot<advocatux> @ScottPilgrim, You can see here https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/issues all the open issues. Issues labeled «good first issue» are a good place to start18:25
ubptgbot<mimecar> you can not use the Ubuntu Touch SDK on 18.0418:26
ubptgbot<mimecar> there's a virtual machine with Ubuntu 16.04 and all the SDK tools18:26
ubptgbot<dohbee> @ScottPilgrim, Yeah, the old SDK is not really maintained, best not to rely on it18:29
ubptgbot<dohbee> You probably don't want to @ the bot either. :)18:29
ScottPilgrimoops :p18:30
ScottPilgrimwhat is the bot for?18:31
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> It's a bridge to Telegram, group link should be in the topic18:31
ScottPilgrimoh sweet18:31
ScottPilgrimIs that VM with Ubuntu 16 out there somewhere to download? Or do people just set up VirtualBox (or something else) manually?18:38
ubptgbot<mimecar> you can use this link https://goo.gl/HqUPvV18:39
ubptgbot<mimecar> original link on the ubports forum https://forums.ubports.com/post/433418:40
ubptgbot<Stereofont> Hello ScottPilgrim. Are you in the UBports group on Matrix?18:45
ScottPilgrimNo, but I could be...18:45
ubptgbot<Stereofont> #ubports:halium.org18:46
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> er18:46
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> #ubports:matrix.org18:46
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> :P18:46
ubptgbot<Stereofont> Haha. And I haven't touched a drop …18:47
ubptgbot<Stereofont> In which case, ScottPilgrim I suggest that you do so :)18:47
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> That's right, I need to start sitting with Riot open more18:48
ubptgbot<dohbee> @UniversalSuperBox, Not umatriks?18:48
ubptgbot<Stereofont> On desktop18:49
ubptgbot<advocatux> Fluffychat works better nowadays18:49
ubptgbotXray2000 was added by: Xray200018:50
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Rudi's back!18:50
ubptgbot<advocatux> \o/18:50
ubptgbot<Xray2000> Hi guys after a lot of nice comments from a lot of user i'll back ;)18:50
ubptgbot<advocatux> That's great !!18:50
ubptgbot<Xray2000> @advocatux, I never know that UT has this nice community i got a bunch of emails ... realy nice guys !18:51
ubptgbot<TartanSpartan> Yay!18:51
ubptgbot<Stereofont> 🍰18:51
ubptgbot<advocatux> @Xray2000, Yeah, we missed you18:51
ubptgbot<Xray2000> @advocatux, Thanks!18:51
ubptgbot<mariogrip> @Xray2000, YAAAY welcome back! :D18:52
ubptgbot<Xray2000> @mariogrip, Thanks Marius, well let me a bit explain so you understand why the move, i dont know how its going in other country's but i using my bank as mostly on my device as this nice guys make there bank website as bad as possible that we need to use there Android apps it's a bit more of a push the are doing..... that's my18:55
ubptgbot main problem we have in Belgium add last i have...18:55
ubptgbot<Xray2000> @mariogrip, [Edit] Thanks Marius, well let me a bit explain so you understand why the move, i dont know how its going in other country's but i use my bank as mostly on my device as this nice guys make there bank website as bad as possible that we need to use there Android apps it's a bit more of a push the are doing..... that18:56
ubptgbot's my main problem we have in Belgium add last i have...18:56
ubptgbot<mariogrip> speaking of android apps, did you see the q/a last night?18:56
ubptgbot<mariogrip> @Xray2000, its the same here in norway, but at least the webapp work somewhat fine for my bank18:57
ubptgbot<Xray2000> @mariogrip, Yes Marius i have see it good work ! But i using a PRO 5 here so the only problem i had is the keyboard ;)18:57
ubptgbot<Xray2000> @mariogrip, Here is it not possible anymore via webapps18:58
ubptgbot<mariogrip> Right, the keyboard is still a problem, i have been working an a bridge for the ubuntu touch keyboard this weekend, but still some stuff missing there18:58
ubptgbot<Xray2000> @mariogrip, Oh i see nice well then this is realy good news already ;)18:59
ubptgbot<mariogrip> 😊18:59
ubptgbot<PhoenixLandPirate> :)19:00
ubptgbot<Xray2000> @mariogrip, I dont know if you know it but there a new law by the EU that banks into the EU need to open a API we can using.... this is realy good news19:00
ubptgbot<Xray2000> Someone already into the sfos community is coding the first bank app ;) so i will see i can port this to UT ;)19:01
ubptgbot<cibersheep> @Xray2000, Weeeeeeeeeeeee 💜19:02
ubptgbot<Xray2000> @cibersheep, Hi Joan !19:02
ubptgbot<cibersheep> @Xray2000, Nice to have you back :)19:02
ubptgbot<mariogrip> @Xray2000, oh! hopefull that applyes for norway too, we just cherry pick the rules here since we are not 100% in eu :P19:03
ubptgbot<Xray2000> @cibersheep, Thanks to be honest i miss you guys ;)19:03
ubptgbot<samuele963> Hi, I have no idea about this stuff, but I want to thank everybody for making all of this possible :D19:03
ubptgbot<Levis Raju> @samuele963, Me too ! But I am using the halium docs + ubports porting guide to create a port for my device. There are people working on it. But atleast I could report some errors even though I don't know how to fix it.19:04
ubptgbot<Xray2000> @mariogrip, I dont know about that Marius, it is called psd219:05
ubptgbot<samuele963> @Levis Raju, Nice! Maybe I can help by running things on my pi … After all, I need to use it somehow19:06
ubptgbot<mariogrip> @Xray2000, On nice! it does apply for norway :D so maybe i can write a app for my banks app too19:06
ubptgbot<samzn> really happy to see all this progress19:06
ubptgbot<Xray2000> @mariogrip, Yes it should be easy as i have hear from Sebastian, you can use a general APII let say for all banks...19:07
ubptgbot<Xray2000> @mariogrip, [Edit] Yes it should be easy as i have hear from Sebastian, you can use a general API let say for all banks...19:07
ubptgbot<mariogrip> @Xray2000, oh! so its a global api? not a per bank api, where all banks have different apis?19:07
ubptgbot<mariogrip> if its global then thats awesome!19:07
ubptgbot<Xray2000> @mariogrip, In some way a global yes19:07
ubptgbot<Xray2000> Wait i look it up19:08
ubptgbot<Xray2000> If someone like to know more about PSD2 you can found a bit more here https://github.com/OpenBankProject19:19
ubptgbot<advocatux> @Xray2000, Oh, interesting. Thank you19:24
ubptgbot<Xray2000> @advocatux, Yes indeed19:24
ubptgbot<Stereofont> Facebook is trying hard to become a universal bank interface 😑19:29
ScottPilgrimthat is a scary thought19:30
ScottPilgrimbut I hear that banks are not that itnerested19:30
ubptgbot<Xray2000> @ScottPilgrim, The need to follow it becoss it's a new rule buy the EU so the dont have any choice19:32
ubptgbot<Stereofont> It is indeed. They say they have 'no interest' in knowing transactions and balances. That the data will come to them 'incidentally' through their deals with banks19:32
ScottPilgrimWhat new rule? Do the banks have to present a common interface or something?19:34
ubptgbot<Xray2000> @ScottPilgrim, It is called PSD2 that's the new rule of the EU, the need to open in some way a API...19:36
ScottPilgrimOh I think I understand19:36
ScottPilgrimSo, Facebook just seeks to implement this API19:36
ubptgbot<Xray2000> @ScottPilgrim, Sorry i dont know about that i dont have following that about Facebook19:37
ScottPilgrimor design for this API rather19:37
ubptgbot<Xray2000> I only can tell here in Belgium we have as example one bank app and we can put there other bank account into it from other banks now19:38
ScottPilgrimThat sounds like a good idea19:40
ubptgbot<Xray2000> @ScottPilgrim, It seems that it would be possible to pay via Facebook, this i just found i dont know it it would be true https://www.wired.co.uk/article/banks-data-tech-giants19:40
ubptgbot<Greenman64squid> @Xray2000, What???!! I would never feel safe with something like facebook pay20:14
ubptgbot<Greenman64squid> @Xray2000, [Edit] What???!! I would never feel safe with something like 'facebook pay'20:14
ubptgbot<Gorsh2> @Xray2000, One step closer to Mr. Robot20:17
ubptgbot<Gorsh2> (Sorry, season 2 spoilers)20:18
ubptgbot<Xray2000> @Greenman64squid, i dont know if this is true or not...20:29
ubptgbot<Greenman64squid> Hopefully won't come to europe20:30
ubptgbot<Xray2000> But here where i live even gouverment control out bank accounts the know everything....20:30
ubptgbot<Xray2000> [Edit] But here where i live even gouverment control our bank accounts the know everything....20:30
ubptgbot<Xray2000> @Greenman64squid, As far i understand PSD2 is into the full EU...20:31
ubptgbot<Greenman64squid> I certainly would not use it if they payed me!20:32
ubptgbot<Xray2000> @Greenman64squid, No indeed i also do not, but i was not talking about Facebook anyway...indeed the will spy more and more on us nothing we can do about i think...20:33
ubptgbot<Greenman64squid> :-(20:33
ubptgbot<Xray2000> Indeed20:33
ubptgbot<Greenman64squid> Mr. Zucc, I just want to live my life, no need for your all seeing eye, thank you20:34
ubptgbot<Xray2000> @Greenman64squid, It seems Facebook would not have access on PSD2 ...20:38
ubptgbot<Xray2000> https://www.evry.com/en/news/articles/psd2-the-directive-that-will-change-banking-as-we-know-it/20:38
ubptgbot<Fiona C> @advocatux, Finally got onto my Ubuntu machine. My M10 is showing as unauthorised in adb so I can’t run the step to switch channels (or anything else!). Any suggestions?21:20
ubptgbot<advocatux> @Fiona C, Is developer mode set on? … If that's not the issue, please come to the Install group (https://t.me/WelcomePlus)21:21
ubptgbot<advocatux> BTW, you can switch channels on your device directly21:22
ubptgbot<Fiona C> It was before that update 😉21:22
ubptgbot<Fiona C> I can’t do anything on the device directly(?) - other than recovery mode...21:22
ubptgbot<advocatux> Please, come to the Install group and we'll try to help you there21:23
ubptgbot<Mattia990> If someone has got a Xiaomi Mi3 and want to try my port of ubuntu touch: https://forum.xda-developers.com/xiaomi-mi-3/development/rom-ubuntu-touch-16-04-xiaomi-mi3-t383147023:04
ubptgbot<advocatux> @Mattia990 I don't have that device but I want to say thank you for your work !!23:08
ubptgbot<Mattia990> @advocatux, Oh, thanks!23:10
ubptgbot<advocatux> You're welcome!23:11

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