=== chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk [12:03] Hi, I see this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pitivi/+bug/1748787 "pitivi crashed with AttributeError in ..." but I don't see any C backtrace, only a Python traceback in the bug description. The traceback cannot cause a crash/segfault, so I'm wondering why the bug title says "crash", any clue? [12:03] Ubuntu bug 1748787 in pitivi (Ubuntu) "pitivi crashed with AttributeError in _create_next_thumb(): 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'seek'" [Medium,New] [15:31] aleb: probably because it's just a Python-level "crash", and not a segfault? [15:32] the bug reporting tools can catch & report those too [15:49] I think the "crash" word is abused. Normally crash means something bad, when the application stops. [16:16] the application didn't stop? [16:16] maybe it uses subprocesses, and one of those crashed? [16:19] oh right, I see it in your bug now [16:20] (and maybe #ubuntu-devel has more people who can answer your question) [16:46] Thanks!