[01:00] <sauvin> Anybody awake?
[01:20] <Flannel> sauvin: What can we do for you?
[01:21] <sauvin> I have somebody named "aaron" with an "ubuntu/member/aaron" mask asking for operator status in ##linux and was wondering if this is something that needs attention.
[01:22] <Flannel> attention is what way?
[01:22] <Flannel> er, in what way?
[01:22] <Flannel> And is this the "I'm new here, give me ops" or the "I've been a member of this community and I'd like to become an operator" sort of situation?
[01:22] <sauvin> I'm not familiar with how Ubuntu arranges its members/operators/whatnot and am being careful not to piss anybody off needlessly, but I've never heard from this Aaron before.
[01:24] <sauvin> I've had folks wander in demanding operator status before, and most of them have been obviously bad news right off the bat. Aaron was a lot more polite.
[01:24] <Flannel> sauvin: Operators and membership aren't really related at all.  Membership in Ubuntu is earned through "sustained contributions to the Ubuntu project" (whether that be IRC, developer, forums, community, etc).
[01:24] <Flannel> Not all #*ubuntu* operators are members, and certainly not all members are operators.
[01:25] <sauvin> Gotcha, so, I can safely tell this fella that we're a bit choosy about our operators without causing any kind of political backlash.
[01:27] <Flannel> sauvin: Looks like IRC aaron is: https://launchpad.net/~timido  if that helps.
[01:27] <Flannel> sauvin: As far as I'm concerned, even if I came over and asked for ops in ##linux, you should feel free to tell me to take a hike without it causing a ruckus :)
[01:28] <sauvin> Oh, well, then, this lets him out. He doesn't speak French!
[01:28] <sauvin> Flannel, on the basis of what you just told me, though (with respect to yourself), you might just be the kind of people person we'd look for.
[01:29] <Flannel> sauvin: Looks like his nick used to be TiMiDo, if that helps your recollection: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AaronFarias
[01:30] <Flannel> sauvin: What I said goes for all of the ubuntu operators, while I can't guarantee no one will be upset (because we're not a hive mind), the official Ubuntu IRC organization won't take any offense.
[01:31] <Flannel> That said, aaron is not an operator, so... apples and oranges to begin with.
[01:32] <sauvin> Yup.
[01:32] <Flannel> (He could be for some LoCo team channels though, those are generally self-governing)
[01:32]  * sauvin is looking at logs
[01:33] <sauvin> I have only one nick ('aaron') for aaron, but a few idents: ubuntu, aaron, unix, dark, jesutinto, jointf, timido and hello.
[01:34] <Flannel> Probably different IRC clients/computers.
[01:35] <sauvin> Very likely, or even VPNs. If this guy doesn't stick out to you as trouble or potential trouble, I'm thinking it's nothing to worry about.
[01:36] <sauvin> Thank you for your time in this matter, and cheers. If your -ops channel is anything like mine, it's time to part now.
[14:55] <pragmaticenigma> Is someone available to take care of YouMight ??
[14:58] <pragmaticenigma> hggdh, acheronuk, ikonia  ??
[15:59] <ikonia> pragmaticenigma: what's up
[16:00] <pragmaticenigma> Been trying to get help with a user that is trolling the main room... they've gone quiet for the moment
[16:01] <ikonia> I'll look into it
[16:01] <ikonia> thanks for the heads up pragmaticenigma I wasn't following
[16:02] <pragmaticenigma> Thanks ikonia ... they tend to perk up when the room appears dead
[16:03] <ikonia> I'll keep an eye out
[17:57] <nacc> might need someone to kick YouMight in #ubuntu
[17:58] <nacc> ikonia: thanks
[17:59] <pragmaticenigma> yes... thanks ikonia ... I knew they'd pipe up eventually
[17:59] <ikonia> took it's time
[17:59] <pragmaticenigma> has to be the hardest part of ops... catching the act
[18:00] <ikonia> normally it's quite blatant
[18:04] <hggdh> pragmaticenigma: now, if nothing else we can do for you, please /part. This is a no-idling channel