[01:20] <danieru98> hello, i've configured pulseaudio to use a unix socket, that part works perfectly, problem is when i configure the client to connect to that unix socket by default (by adding default-server to /etc/pulse/client.conf) it makes the pulseaudio deamon not auto start
[01:21] <wxl> danieru98: strange use case. might want to get more eyes on it. go to #ubuntu. it's not a lubuntu specific issue anyways
[01:21] <wxl> (shouldn't be)
[01:22] <danieru98> wxl, you're right, i'll comment that part on #ubuntu, but theres another issue that it defently lubuntu only related
[01:22] <danieru98> since pulseaudio no longer autostart
[01:22] <danieru98> that makes the audio applet on lxpanel crash for some reason
[01:23] <danieru98> and that manages to crash the whole lxpanel
[01:23] <wxl> well that's strange but not entirely surprising
[01:23] <wxl> if you had a bicycle with no wheels, it would crash too :)
[01:24] <danieru98> i can see why the applet would crash, strange thing is that when this was an alsa only system, that didn't happen
[01:24] <danieru98> but at any rate the development of lxde is dead now so maybe i shouldn't bother making a bug report
[01:24] <wxl> you're welcome to file a bug and we can look at it, but i can tell you right now it will go into the low priority bin
[01:25] <wxl> it's not dead. it's just slow.
[01:25] <wxl> i heard they finally got gtk3 sorted out
[01:25] <danieru98> yes, having the development focus on lxqt
[01:25] <wxl> well, not exactly. lots of the lxde folks are still only doing lxde. lxqt is mostly newer/differnt people
[01:27] <danieru98> hmm, do you think next lubuntu 18.10 will also have lxde? because then that would make filling a bug report wort it
[01:27] <wxl> no way
[01:27] <wxl> but lxde will still be around and someone will still be maintaining it
[01:28] <wxl> not to mention the fact that we'll still be supporting releases that are still supported
[01:29] <danieru98> true, lubuntu 18.04 still has another 4 years
[01:29] <danieru98> ill file a bug report later
[01:30] <danieru98> im glad to know its definitely lxqt from now on and for the next lts, it provees lxqt is finally ready for broad use
[01:30] <wxl> yep we're working hard on it. you should try out a daily and report any bugs you find!
[01:38] <danieru98> great! i will as soon as i get some free time, haven't tried lubuntu with lxqt in some time, im excited to see how much has matured :D
[01:38] <wxl> a LOT
[01:38] <lubot5> <tsimonq2> +1
[01:38] <wxl> like it installs now with relative ease XD
[01:38] <wxl> you should hang out at #lubuntu-devel
[01:38] <wxl> and watch lubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com
[01:38] <wxl> maybe watch the activity at phab.lubuntu.me
[01:40] <danieru98> sure, im really interested in stable, simple to use and lighweight distros
[01:41] <danieru98> specially lightweight now that my cpu just turned 10 years old
[01:42] <danieru98> but it works even on an old pentium 4 i have at work, well except for the audio, probably an alsa or pulseaudio issue with the old sound card, used to work with ubuntu 10.04
[01:43] <lubot5> <tsimonq2> We don't have a particular focus on lightweight anymore but it should still work.
[01:43] <wxl> we're not against lightweight
[01:43] <lubot5> <tsimonq2> Right.
[01:43] <wxl> lightweight that doesn't disable valuable features is probably the best way to look at it
[01:43] <lubot5> <tsimonq2> And I agree in that.
[01:44] <danieru98> yes i read you recently redefined what lightweight means to lubuntu
[01:44] <wxl> re: that, @tsimonq2 you should check my comment about deepin. we need to figure out what they did. memory enhancements and low power usage is the kind of lightweight we need to pay attention to.
[01:44] <danieru98> more or less support for up to 10 year old computers, instead of 20, like old pentiums 4
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