[06:42] good morning desktoppers [06:43] * tsimonq2 waves to oSoMoN [06:43] hey tsimonq2 [06:53] Good morning oSoMoN and all [06:54] Heya jibel [06:54] Hi tsimonq2 [07:00] salut jibel === pstolowski|afk is now known as pstolowski [07:35] Morning oSoMoN, jibel, tsimonq2 [07:36] Hey duflu [07:42] good morning desktopers [07:42] how is everyone? [07:54] Morning seb128 [07:54] hey duflu, how are you? [07:54] Busy but OK. You? [07:55] starting the day but I expect the week to be busy with ff coming and a stack of packages still to update and features to land [07:55] what are you working on atm? [07:55] seb128, the daily check-on-everything-in-gitlab [07:57] Ah crap. I forgot to do the status report before I went out [07:58] you still have time :) [07:59] jamesh, ^ reminder to not forget to send yours as well [08:00] Actually I didn't forget. Didn't have time. Now finishing it [08:00] k [08:02] hey duflu, salut seb128 [08:02] lut oSoMoN, en forme ? [08:02] oui, et toi? [08:08] seb128: yep. [08:08] oSoMoN, un peu fatigué, mais sinon ça va :) [08:09] jamesh, thx [08:30] andyrock, hey, do you want to rebase our gnome-online-package? Debian just did the 3.29 update and most of the diff/patches are your work so you might know better what to do :) [08:31] seb128: gnome-online-accounts? [08:31] doh [08:31] yes :) [08:31] kk [08:31] thx [08:31] andyrock, bug #1788130 is yours then :) [08:31] bug 1788130 in gnome-online-accounts (Ubuntu) "Update to 3.29.91" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1788130 [08:43] seb128: why are they not doing that in experimental anymore? [08:45] I've just upgraded to cosmic, and after logging in input died for a few minutes, vt's still worked. anyone else seen that? [08:45] same X than on bionic, so probably something in gnome then [08:45] s/than/as/ [08:46] andyrock, you best ask Simon, maybe it's an error or he agress with Jeremy that branching the vcs is not needed if there are not likely going to be upload in unstable before .30 is uploaded there [08:46] tjaalton, no, first time I see it mentioned [08:46] but duflu triages more bugs, maybe he saw some reports? [08:47] ok [08:49] tjaalton, people have reported such bugs for years. There's a tag for it: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bugs?field.tag=noclick Most recently I suspect get_dirty_pixel functions could cause such random loss of input and I happen have a proposal that deletes the suspicious code (https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/merge_requests/189). But there may be more reasons for it [08:52] tjaalton, I also did this fix for "no input" problems: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/commit/1c8aebd811a8 I think maybe similar fixes might still be required elsewhere [08:52] seb128, ^ [08:52] duflu, thx [08:53] duflu: actually it's just the kbd [08:54] * duflu shrugs [08:54] tjaalton, mouse input works? [08:54] not just moves [08:54] yes [08:55] ibus stuff maybe? [08:56] could be, not that I use any that I know of [08:57] Because if the cursor and graphics still work then the event loop still works. Thus whatever is blocking the keyboard is likely a different thread or process [08:58] right [09:03] ugh, the shell search thing won't close [09:09] try to restart gnome-shell? [09:09] alt-f2 - r? [09:10] good morning desktopers [09:10] yes restart fixed it [09:10] workspace grid doesn't seem to work with 3.29 :/ [09:12] tjaalton, see also bug 1786948 [09:12] bug 1786948 in gnome-shell-extension-workspaces-to-dock (Ubuntu) "Some shell extensions (dash to dock, hide top bar) to fail to load with gnome-shell 3.29" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1786948 [09:13] seb128, hi, do you remember what happened to d-conf 0.26.1-2? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/d-conf/0.26.0-2ubuntu3 -- apparently dconf-editor 3.28.0-1 is hard requiring it (but is in bionic) [09:13] duflu: nice [09:14] seb128, https://launchpad.net/~ricotz/+archive/ubuntu/bionic-vala-sru/+sourcepub/9347947/+listing-archive-extra [09:18] ricotz, it was deleted because autopkgtest fail on armhf (which likely means in lxc iirc what Laney said) and nobody ever had the cycle to figure out the issue [09:20] seb128, I see [10:19] seb128: btw problem bug I had is filed as bug #1787542, I'm trying to ask from upstream but for me the Gettext.textdomain seems not required for translations in both gnome-shell and workrave to work, and removing that line fixes gnome-shell translations for me.. [10:19] bug 1787542 in workrave (Ubuntu) "Enabling workrave GNOME extension breaks some translations" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1787542 [10:20] so as that sets default textdomain for further gettext calls, it seems like that spreads to some gnome dialogs somehow.. [10:32] seb128: https://code.launchpad.net/~canonical-desktop-team/ubuntu/+source/gnome-online-accounts/+git/gnome-online-accounts [10:32] this is just to move gnome-online-accounts to the vcs [10:32] I used Trevinho's script [10:39] tjaalton, was your extension in that list [10:39] ? [10:40] Oh well. Night... [10:45] no, workspace grid isn't packaged [10:53] but added a link to the github issue [11:44] andyrock: mh, something didn't work when changing the debian/control files https://git.launchpad.net/~canonical-desktop-team/ubuntu/+source/gnome-online-accounts/tree/debian/control.in?h=ubuntu/master [11:44] please fix the VCS uris [11:44] weird though [11:44] do you have the log of that part? [11:45] kk [11:45] nope [12:02] Trevinho: fixed === pstolowski is now known as pstolowski|lunch [12:29] andyrock, k [12:31] andyrock, Trevinho, what do you do when Debian updates a package before us to rebase on them? merge debian/master in ubuntu/master? [12:31] seb128: I'm working on this [12:31] merge the tag [12:32] andyrock, I was asking because I hit the issue with some updates I wanted to do [12:32] yeah, I merge the tag and adjust debian/changelog in the merge commit [12:32] work was easier before git :p [12:32] "merge the tag"? [12:32] git checkout ubuntu/master [12:32] Laney might have some fancier way of handling debian/changelog [12:32] git merge debian/3.29.... [12:32] he's on holidays so we will not know today [12:32] oh ok [12:33] why merging the tag and not master? [12:34] I guess because you want to merge with something that has already been uploaded ? [12:35] did we start to put ubuntu specific patches under debian/patches/ubuntu ? [12:39] good point about uploaded, in that case master has no other commit so I guess it's equivalent [12:39] since when is debian/patches/ubuntu a thing? [12:39] jbicha, hey btw, since you are around I can ask ... is there updates you plan to handle this week? eds/evo .91? new gedit maybe? [12:40] andyrock: I haven't done that. For a few packages, smcv has a separate d/p/debian folder which I guess helps him tell which patches are cherry-picked and which are unlikely to be upstreamed [12:40] like https://salsa.debian.org/gnome-team/mutter/tree/debian/experimental/debian/patches [12:41] ah, so it's nothing magical there [12:41] just you can put them where you want and list the path in the serie [12:41] similar to prefix the filename then [12:41] seb128: https://git.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/tree/debian/patches [12:41] yeah, it's just organization, the patches are all still listed in d/p/series [12:41] yeah just wanted to make sure it's a new policy [12:41] *it's not a ... [12:42] andyrock, yeah, so it seems it's personal taste from the maintainer, I don't see a benefit over prefixing them ubuntu- or similar [12:42] it seems useful for gnome-shell because of how many patches are involved :) [12:42] I don't see the difference between prefixing on the name or in a subdir [12:43] I personally find a flat list easier to browse [12:43] but yeah, personnal preference [12:43] seb128: I wasn't planning on doing evo .91 since it looked minor to me, gedit is easy so maybe I'll do that one [12:43] k, good [12:43] fair enough for .91, I'm looking at red lines on versions :p [12:43] but what matter at this point is updating to 3.29 series before ff [12:44] we have no much interest in doing .91 .92 .0 [12:45] will we need FFe's to update universe pkgs to 3.29/3.30 (like gnome-boxes, gnome-builder) after FF? [12:47] yes [12:48] last cycle Laney didn't require that but there's a lot more packages that aren't updated yet this time [12:48] well ask a r-t member, but I would expect the answer to be yes, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeatureFreeze says the process applies to all components and GNOME has a standing exception to follow minor updates because they are reliable/tested upstream/etc but that doesn't apply to serie jumps [12:48] Laney is off this week and next [12:48] so we can't check with him [12:49] anyway, it's not like it would change things much anyway? [12:49] ff is this week and those are not updated, it just might be a bit more paperwork [12:51] we have quite some things in main that need to be updated still [12:51] I made sure to do evo .90 earlier because it had a bumped soname [12:53] gnome-online-accounts (andy is on it), ibus, gvfs (to merge), poppler (I've it ready), libreoffice, network-manager, gedit, shotwell, baobab, gnome-calendar, gnome-logs, gnome-characters, gnome-todo, libdazzle [12:53] though some of those are snaps on the default install so probably less important to update in the archive === pstolowski|lunch is now known as pstolowski [13:00] hello. just need to check. is gnome-3-26-1604 the correct snap on 18.04.1 installation? [13:04] Nafallo, yes [13:04] okay. seemed odd :-) [13:04] seems [13:05] why? [13:05] it's GNOME 3.26 built on 16.04 [13:05] sure, I just assumed it should have been gnome-3-28-1804 :-) [13:06] Nafallo, talking about the platform snap? [13:06] hi ken! yeah, just on time. I got a bit confused when I did a snap list on a fresh 18.04 :-) [13:08] Nafallo, yeah, we couldn't build on core18 yet [13:08] so the core snap is still based on 16.04 [13:08] so the platform is built based on 16.04 still [13:11] seb128, is the gnome-session file coflict fix in progress? [13:11] xnox, what file conflict? [13:11] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-session/+bug/1787748 [13:11] Ubuntu bug 1787748 in gnome-session (Ubuntu) "ubuntu.session is trying to write '/usr/share/gnome-session/sessions/ubuntu.session', which is also in the gnome-session" [Critical,Confirmed] [13:11] xnox, you guys from foundations have the habit of asking about issues like there were known to us [13:12] src:gnome-session builds bin:gnome-session and bin:ubuntu-session both of which ship identical file [13:12] Trevinho, ^ one for you I guess [13:12] merge error? [13:12] well given that all upgrades on the desktops are failing, on 18.04... i would have thought.... =) [13:12] well, don't fail, but end up being incomplete. [13:13] xnox: mhmhmh, I for sure got the same and fixed in the src I hope I did push in git the same [13:13] as laney didn't use my debsrc eventually, so things might be messed up [13:13] let me check [13:13] Trevinho, maybe i am out of date. [13:14] Trevinho, i would expect breaks/replaces would be needed too, to help apt figure out what to do or some such. [13:15] Trevinho, to me it looks like 3.29.90-1ubuntu1 still ships ubuntu.session in both binary packages, somehow. [13:15] yes, fck, he didn't merge the right one [13:17] seb128, "you guys from foundations have the habit" well, we get to do our own hiring, so obviously we hire similar people to give a consistent grumpy customer experience, irrespective of which foundations person one talks to =)))) [13:18] this was the correct one https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/3356/+sourcefiles/gnome-session/3.29.90-1ubuntu1.2/gnome-session_3.29.90-1ubuntu1.2.debian.tar.xz [13:20] xnox, sounds like it, anyway thanks for pointing that one out :) [13:21] uff, so annoying... Readdressing something that you already fixed. and now it's worse [13:21] I will though [13:21] where did it go wrong? [13:22] Trevinho, i think the whichever package is supposed to have it should have it; and also gain Breaks/Replaces: otherthing (<= 3.29.90-1ubuntu1) now. [13:22] Trevinho, to help unstick people who got stuck. would not affect bionic->cosmic dist upgrades. [13:22] and otherthing should drop the conflicted file. [13:23] seb128: I prepared the gnome-session debsrc and also a git branch, expecting my src to be used, but it didn't happen, so the not-updated git repo was used instead.... [13:24] Trevinho, why was git not uptodate? ;) [13:24] seb128: basically it happened on merging with debian, but I noticed and fixed, but the change wasn't picked [13:26] seb128: eh, cause I was expecting my debsrc to be used then we'd have merged the vcs, but maybe I didn't push waiting for a final review, but I didn't get feedback... don't remember exactly, I had to deal with 5-6 src and respective vcss, so I might have forgot a git push [13:26] k [13:27] anyway let me know when you have a fix [13:29] yes, this got lost -_- http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/XZ62nqHz3T/ [13:30] Trevinho, the debian/rules diff looks buggy, we want to fail on missing fail to avoid errors [13:30] oh, meeting time! [13:31] seb128: it was missing, but no we don't want for the way it is done... It's bad and probably need to reworked, as things are put around manually so we need to miss [13:31] #startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2018-08-21 [13:31] Meeting started Tue Aug 21 13:31:16 2018 UTC. The chair is seb128. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. [13:31] Available commands: action commands idea info link nick === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/3VYBPFaR/ubuntu-desktop-1810-cycle | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2018-08-21 | Current topic: [13:31] seb128: that was how it was before [13:32] Roll call: andyrock, dgadomski, didrocks (vac), duflu (out), jamesh (out), jibel, heber (sick), kenvandine, laney (vac), oSoMoN, seb128, tkamppeter, trevinho, robert_ancell (out) [13:32] o/ [13:32] o/ [13:32] \o [13:32] \o [13:33] o/ [13:33] k, let's get started [13:34] #topic andyrock === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/3VYBPFaR/ubuntu-desktop-1810-cycle | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2018-08-21 | Current topic: andyrock [13:34] andyrock, hey [13:34] - 3.28 -> 3.29 [13:34] # gtk3 3.23.2-1 in cosmic (MP: https://code.launchpad.net/~azzar1/ubuntu/+source/gtk+3.0/+git/gtk+3.0/+merge/353235) [13:34] # gnome-initial-setup 3.29.1 in Cosmic [13:34] # WIP gnome-online-accounts 3.29.91 in Cosmic [13:34] - Livepatch iteration 2: [13:34] # Proposed fix for bug lp: #1770686 in Bionic [13:34] # Proposed fix for bug lp: #1787553 in Cosmic [13:34] - Gnome-shell/Mutter: [13:34] # Working on https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell/issues/109 [13:34] # Rebased other MPs on top of current/master [13:34] - EOW [13:34] Launchpad bug 1770686 in software-properties (Ubuntu Bionic) "Hide livepatch widgets in flavors without an online account panel in gnome-control-center" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1770686 [13:34] Launchpad bug 1787553 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "Add a reminder to enable Livepatch " [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1787553 [13:35] thx andyrock [13:35] #topic dgadomski === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/3VYBPFaR/ubuntu-desktop-1810-cycle | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2018-08-21 | Current topic: dgadomski [13:35] hey [13:35] dgadomski, hey [13:35] * out last week [13:35] * verifying bug #1782152 [13:35] bug 1782152 in gdm3 (Ubuntu Bionic) "GDM blocks SIGUSR1 used in PAM scripts" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1782152 [13:35] eof [13:35] thx dgadomski [13:35] #topic duflu === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/3VYBPFaR/ubuntu-desktop-1810-cycle | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2018-08-21 | Current topic: duflu [13:36] * Gnome Shell performance: [13:36] - Geometric (GPU-less) picking support now works flawlessly, and only needs cleaning up :D [13:36] . https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/merge_requests/189 [13:36] . Why? Because CPU usage was becoming an issue in https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/merge_requests/168 [13:36] . Also made some attempts at removing picking completely, but that's pretty risky and doesn't work properly right now (https://gitlab.gnome.org/vanvugt/mutter/commits/retire-pick) [13:36] * Gnome Shell other: [13:36] - Successfully got another fix into mutter 3.29.92, but none of the important fixes [13:36] . https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/commit/b8340f135 [13:36] - FYI, many mutter reviews still pending (including all the important ones): [13:36] . https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/merge_requests?scope=all&utf8=%E2%9C%93&state=opened&author_username=vanvugt [13:36] * Cosmic start-up regressions: [13:36] - Fixed upstream! But worth noting for other cosmic users until we release the fix (gdm 3.29.92): [13:36] . https://launchpad.net/bugs/1786883 [13:36] Ubuntu bug 1786883 in gdm3 (Ubuntu) "[regression] Login screen flickers to black a few times on boot and then finally settles on using Xorg instead of Wayland. No Wayland login option." [High,Triaged] [13:36] . https://launchpad.net/bugs/1786872 [13:36] Ubuntu bug 1786872 in gdm3 (Ubuntu) "[regression] Cosmic login screen never appears on about 50% of boots" [High,Triaged] [13:36] * Hardware video decoding: [13:36] - mpv version 0.29.0 is progressing slowly (https://launchpad.net/bugs/1785993) [13:36] Ubuntu bug 1785993 in mpv (Ubuntu) "Please merge mpv 0.29 from Debian" [Medium,Fix committed] [13:36] * Daily bug management: [13:36] - The trend is much the same as last week. [13:36] - Only one comment: The amount of bug mail has increased recently. It would help if more people subscribed to it and triaged some each day. [13:37] #topic jamesh === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/3VYBPFaR/ubuntu-desktop-1810-cycle | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2018-08-21 | Current topic: jamesh [13:37] Here's the stuff I've been working on this week: [13:37] pulseaudio snap policy module: [13:37] * I put together changes needed to support classic snaps: [13:37] https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-audio-dev/pulseaudio/+git/pulseaudio/+merge/353214 [13:37] * Still need to work on the back ports. [13:37] font related startup slowness in snaps: [13:37] * I tracked down the cause of the slowdown to a [13:37] snapcraft-desktop-helpers merge that effectively disabled a large part [13:37] of the fontconfig configuration. In particular, it meant [13:37] /var/cache/fontconfig was no longer consulted as a source of cache [13:37] files, leading to that data being rebuilt. I've put up a PR here: [13:37] https://github.com/ubuntu/snapcraft-desktop-helpers/pull/144 [13:37] * We still don't have a solution for cache version skew (e.g. snaps [13:37] built with new fontconfig on xenial hosts, or xenial snaps on [13:37] bionic/cosmic hosts), but that we've never had a solution for that so [13:37] it isn't a regression. We're fine for snaps using the GNOME backports [13:37] PPA on modern Ubuntu though, so perhaps that is good enough. [13:37] snapd merges: [13:37] * I've got a number of pending pull requests that have attention. I'm [13:37] going to go through these tomorrow. [13:37] crash reporting for snaps: [13:37] * I've been putting together some notes about debug symbol collection. [13:37] I need to clean this up and post it to the forum. [13:38] * I also need to look at having apport collect sn [13:38] * What is still unclear is how to make debug symbols collected during [13:38] a snap build are available for retracing. [13:38] #topic jibel === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/3VYBPFaR/ubuntu-desktop-1810-cycle | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2018-08-21 | Current topic: jibel [13:38] jibel, hey [13:38] hi [13:38] - Short week, back yesterday. [13:38] - Triaged upgrade bugs. [13:38] - SRU verification of gnome-software in bionic. [13:38] - Adding “Upgrade” KPIs. [13:38] done [13:39] thanks jibel [13:39] #topic heber === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/3VYBPFaR/ubuntu-desktop-1810-cycle | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2018-08-21 | Current topic: heber [13:39] * Finish utah fixes and apply the same to Ubiquity [13:39] * Continue with nvidia testing plan [13:39] #topic kenvandine === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/3VYBPFaR/ubuntu-desktop-1810-cycle | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2018-08-21 | Current topic: kenvandine [13:39] kenvandine, hey [13:39] hey [13:39] Short week for me [13:39] * Finished updating the hyper-v Ubuntu Desktop image to 18.04.1 [13:39] - Published on partner images [13:39] * Updated thunderbird snap to 60.0 in edge [13:39] ⚾ [13:40] tb update \o/ [13:41] thx kenvandine [13:41] #topic oSoMoN === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/3VYBPFaR/ubuntu-desktop-1810-cycle | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2018-08-21 | Current topic: oSoMoN [13:41] kenvandine, have you seen the forum post about missing langpacks in the tb snap? [13:41] oSoMoN, yes [13:41] lets talk after meeting [13:41] ack [13:41] • chromium [13:41] ∘ continued focus on transitioning to a snap-only chromium (https://trello.com/c/iDClwK5o/43-focus-on-snap-as-a-primary-means-of-distribution-for-chromium) [13:41] - successfully built an i386 snap (had only built and tested amd64 until now), this required jumping through a number of hoops as upstream doesn't do x86 builds nor do they provide pre-built tools for the x86 build targets [13:41] - now building beta and dev branches [13:41] - currently working on a remaining theming issue [13:41] ∘ updated beta to 69.0.3497.42 [13:41] ∘ updated dev to 70.0.3521.2 [13:41] ∘ prepared update of chromium-ffmpeg snap for chromium 69 [13:41] • libreoffice [13:42] ∘ investigated bug #1537566 [13:42] bug 1537566 in libreoffice (Ubuntu) "LibreOffice crashed but apport didn't log a crash file in /var/crash despite being enabled" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1537566 [13:42] ∘ bug triaging [13:42] 🏊 [13:42] oSoMoN, feature freeze is in 2 days, are we going to get the new libreoffice as a deb in cosmic in time or do we plan to ffe? [13:42] mmm, right, feature freeze [13:43] yeah :p [13:43] I'd rather get it in the archive before that, I'll focus on that starting NOW [13:44] thx oSoMoN! [13:44] #topic seb128 === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/3VYBPFaR/ubuntu-desktop-1810-cycle | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2018-08-21 | Current topic: seb128 [13:44] • sponsoring (gnome-initial-setup 3.29.1 to cosmic, gtk+ 3.23.2, software-properties bionic SRU) [13:44] • debian sponsoring (libsoup2.4, gnome-calculator, gnome-disk-utility, gtk+3.0, glib-networking, gnome-session) [13:44] • debian syncs (gnome-system-monitor, pango1.0) [13:44] • updates (gnome-calculator) and merges from Debian (gnome-calculator, gnome-disk-utility, geoclue, libcanberra, libvdpau, splix, orca, alsa-utils, fontconfig, grilo-plugins, ) [13:44] • dropped compat desktop from cheese since we migrated configs in bionic [13:44] • trello board reviews/updates [13:45] [13:45] (oh also there was a vac day in France so one day less at work) [13:45] #topic tkamppeter === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/3VYBPFaR/ubuntu-desktop-1810-cycle | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2018-08-21 | Current topic: tkamppeter [13:45] tkamppeter, hey [13:45] - cups-filters: Released 1.21.0. Besides a lot of bug fixes, silenced warnings, and coverity fixes, I have included the QPDF-based bannertopdf from Sahil Arora, one of the GSoC 2018 projects. This eliminates the need of using undocumented and unstable APIs of Poppler in cups-filters. [13:45] - CUPS: Backported an upstream patch to avoid duplicate call of pdftopdf (and so duplicate application of print options) when printing to remote CUPS printers via local, temporary queues of CUPS. [13:45] - cups, cups-filters, gutenprint, hplip: Synced with Debian to get the newest versions in before Feature Freeze. [13:45] - Common Print Dialog Backends: Added the work from GSoC 2018 student Ayush Bansal. [13:45] - Google Summer of Code 2018: GSoC 2018nhas officially ended today with the desdline for the mentor's final reports, but as the student's did not complete everything in the projects, they will go on working for some time and I will mentor them. [13:45] - Bugs [13:47] tkamppeter, did you see my ping on https://trello.com/c/kMTto6kl/5-fix-printing-of-filled-pdf-forms-using-qpdf and the IRC pings about it? [13:47] No. [13:48] But the project is going on. [13:48] QPDF already has all needed features for doing the form flattening QPDF-based. [13:48] tkamppeter, right, but is that going to land this cycle or should we move the card? [13:48] tkamppeter, anyway please comment on trello [13:49] tkamppeter, also unsure if https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/bionic/+queue?queue_state=1&queue_text=qpdf is a wanted SRU or a sync to the wrong serie? [13:49] Probably only next cycle, so the card can get moved. [13:49] thx [13:49] next [13:49] #topic trevinho === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/3VYBPFaR/ubuntu-desktop-1810-cycle | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2018-08-21 | Current topic: trevinho [13:49] Trevinho, hey [13:50] · Yaru is default in cosmic: [13:50] - https://code.launchpad.net/~3v1n0/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+git/gnome-shell/+merge/353139 [13:50] - https://code.launchpad.net/~3v1n0/ubuntu/+source/gnome-session/+git/gnome-session/+merge/353283 [13:50] - https://code.launchpad.net/~3v1n0/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-settings/+git/ubuntu-settings/+ref/yaru-default [13:50] · Fix for yaru as default in GDM (please merge) [13:50] - https://code.launchpad.net/~3v1n0/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-settings/+git/ubuntu-settings/+merge/353442 [13:50] · Wrote migration script for theme settings, for users who changed them (need some discussions with Didier) [13:50] - https://code.launchpad.net/~3v1n0/ubuntu/+source/gnome-session/+git/gnome-session/+merge/353340 [13:50] · Updated gnome-shell to 3.29.90-2 and added other patches and crash-fixes / preventers [13:50] · Updated gnome-session to 3.29.90 (in debian/experimental too) and merged back with debian [13:50] - https://salsa.debian.org/3v1n0-guest/gnome-session/commits/debian/experimental [13:50] · SRU verifications for gnome-shell and mutter (and listing fixes to be backported next) [13:50] · GDM to support greeter sessions from .desktop files (to have better Ubuntu vs vanilla GNOME integration) [13:50] - https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gdm/merge_requests/33 [13:50] · Meson fixes for installing broken symlinks (upstream and downstream): [13:50] - https://github.com/mesonbuild/meson/pull/4030 (landed) [13:50] - https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/3365 (LP: #1787286) [13:50] Launchpad bug 1787286 in meson (Ubuntu) "Symlinks can't be copied by install_subdir() since 0.47.0" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1787286 [13:50] · Working on fixing {ubuntu,gnome}-session breaks -_- [13:50] · Need to decide what to do with legacy ubuntu-artworks and ubuntu-sounds (I'd like to keep them as meta-packages) [13:50] · Telegram snap edge refresh [13:50] 🌴 [13:50] thanks Trevinho [13:50] Trevinho, didn't upstream telegram took over maintaining their snap? [13:51] seb128: they didn't setup a build.snapcraft.io thing yet, so I just pull from that and push to a my repo to trigger builds, not really time consuming [13:51] k [13:51] thanks Trevinho [13:51] #topic robert_ancell === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/3VYBPFaR/ubuntu-desktop-1810-cycle | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2018-08-21 | Current topic: robert_ancell [13:52] - Proposed updates to region panel design (https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-control-center/merge_requests/162) [13:52] - Reached out to GNOME design about details of region panel design. [13:52] - Fixed bug where region panel doesn't show languages translated correctly (https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-desktop/merge_requests/15) [13:52] - Sponsor SRU for appstream-glib fix (https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1780442) [13:52] - Add new error code to snap for Polkit cancels (https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/5690) [13:52] Ubuntu bug 1780442 in Fwupd "Please backport fix for & in attributes" [Unknown,New] [13:52] - Working on language pack patch to region panel [13:52] #topic rls-bugs === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/3VYBPFaR/ubuntu-desktop-1810-cycle | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2018-08-21 | Current topic: rls-bugs [13:53] http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-incoming-bug-tasks.html has no desktop items [13:53] http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-tracking-bug-tasks.html is in shape, the list is getting long though and seems not moving so I'm going to do an off-meeting reivew and send an update [13:54] if you have assigned bugs please think about getting them moving [13:54] http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-cc-incoming-bug-tasks.html [13:54] bug #1787748 [13:54] bug 1787748 in gnome-session (Ubuntu) "ubuntu.session is trying to write '/usr/share/gnome-session/sessions/ubuntu.session', which is also in the gnome-session" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1787748 [13:54] Trevinho is on it [13:54] http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-cc-tracking-bug-tasks.html [13:55] kenvandine, can you see with Robert what is blocking uploading the change from https://github.com/hughsie/PackageKit/pull/253 ? [13:55] sure [13:55] thx [13:55] k, quiet rls situation this week then :) [13:55] #topic aob === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/3VYBPFaR/ubuntu-desktop-1810-cycle | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2018-08-21 | Current topic: aob [13:57] seems not, let's wrap then [13:57] efficient one, thanks team! [13:57] #endmeeting === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/3VYBPFaR/ubuntu-desktop-1810-cycle | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently [13:57] Meeting ended Tue Aug 21 13:57:11 2018 UTC. [13:57] Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2018/ubuntu-desktop.2018-08-21-13.31.moin.txt [13:57] seb128, is that something we want to SRU to bionic as well? [13:57] tkamppeter, I don't think you replied to that question yesterday or earlier, is https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/bionic/+queue?queue_state=1&queue_text=qpdf a pocket error or a SRU? (it has no LP bug reference) [13:58] kenvandine, yes, cf the bug, but we said we need it well tested first so it needs to land into cosmic to start with ... unsure why Robert didn't move ahead there since it got merged upstream [13:59]