[00:32] <Aaron> nanomoe, if that was the problem try to write some information from the problem to the bug system
[00:32] <Aaron> so developers can work with the error
[00:32] <qwebirc86154> @aaron I have tried apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade    results are 2 not upgraded
[00:33] <Aaron> then try to hit enter
[00:33] <Aaron> so they can install
[00:33] <qwebirc86154> it is not an option
[00:33] <Aaron> when you do apt-get dist-upgrade and it tells you is going to install 2 more packages
[00:33] <Aaron> let the apt install the packages
[00:33] <Aaron> that are missing
[00:34] <qwebirc86154> it says 0 upgrade, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2 not upgrade   then it goes back to a prompt
[00:35] <Aaron> then do apt-get autoremove
[00:35] <Aaron> to remove the 2 packages
[00:37] <kaiser> hello, im having an issue. im trying to connect a pair of AE2 soundlink bose headphones to my debian machine via bluetooth, i can successfully trust, pair and connect the headphones however they do not show up as an output device in my audio settings. after my googling i suspect the issue may be pulseaudio although i havent been able to find a solution yet.
[00:37] <tomreyn> SilverSlimer: for a desktop computer: " sudo apt update; sudo apt install default-jre ". if it's a server, make it default-jre-headless
[00:37] <paulo> eae
[00:37] <pragmaticenigma> !br
[00:39] <tomreyn> kaiser: this is #ubuntu
[00:39] <SilverSlimer> tomreyn, I already had the default-jre package installed which is why I was a little surprised to get that vlc error. Like I said, the movie runs fine and I guess I should be happy that I can run a Blu-Ray in Linux without pay software
[00:40] <guiverc_d> nanomoe, you can get an idea of how it will work by looking at source (or where you got it from, eg. gnome-look.org etc), what it was for (eg. gnome 3.14) and compare with what you are actually using (say 3.28); you'll have an idea anyway (not all themes say exactly, some provide clues or version details..)
[00:40] <qwebirc86154> I am getting the following packages have been kept back  gir1.2-gst-plugins-base-1.0 and gnome-session-bin
[00:41] <tomreyn> SilverSlimer: i haven't seen you post a VLC error message, just one by apt
[00:41] <kaiser> tomreyn: they both use the same pulseaudio build and bluetooth stack
[00:41] <kaiser> tomreyn: i fail to find any solution anywhere else so i thought it would be worth a shot to ask here as well
[00:42] <SilverSlimer> tomreyn: the error simply refers to a missing java which leads to a lack of menus on the blu-ray title. I doubt the exact wording would lead to a better solution.
[00:42] <tomreyn> kaiser: i see. but please ask on the support channels your very distribution provides, even if some packages are the same or similar, others they may interact with are most likely not.
[00:44] <tomreyn> SilverSlimer: sounds like vlc just can't find the jre. maybe you just need to set an environment variable or reconfigure it. but if it already works well enough for you, let's not bother.
[00:45] <SilverSlimer> tomreyn, yeah, i'm willing to just ignore the error and have it immediately jump into the movie rather than take me to the menus. It's no biggie, I was just hoping there was a quick fix
[00:45] <testasdf> Hello
[00:46] <SilverSlimer> tomreyn, besides, I prefer to use VLC's own menu panel than something some movie studio created
[00:46] <tomreyn> fine with me ;)
[00:50] <testasdf> Keg
[00:51] <qwebirc86154> @aaron, not sure if you would know, but now after trying to install gnome-session and other dependencies, I receive the following error  E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[00:55] <longcat> JoshRS: does a simple sudo apt autoremove ?
[00:55] <longcat> done*
[00:55] <longcat> JoshRS: after that, sudo dpkg --configure -a
[00:55] <longcat> that *should* solve your issue
[00:56] <JoshRS> yes, 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2 not upgraded
[00:56] <longcat> all good now?
[00:56] <longcat> sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade
[00:57] <JoshRS> same thing as autoremove
[00:57] <JoshRS> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2 not upgraded
[00:58] <JoshRS> the following have been kept back, fir1.2-gst-plugins-base-1.0 gnome-session-bin
[00:58] <longcat> JoshRS: sudo apt-get autoclean && sudo apt-get clear cache
[00:58] <JoshRS> *gir1.2
[01:00] <JoshRS> clean cache?
[01:04] <mate|82242> good day folks, quick macbuntu question here. will the latest macbuntu 18.04 work in ubuntu-mate 18.04?
[01:06] <mate|82242> nobody?
[01:14] <JoshRS> @Aaron @longcat I was finally able to get it working
[01:15] <JoshRS> sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop gdm3
[01:15] <longcat> JoshRS: yay, good job!
[01:15] <JoshRS> It took downgrading some packages, then I was able to once again upgrade.  thanks!
[01:16] <longcat> weird lol
[01:16] <longcat> glad you got it :)
[01:16] <JoshRS> lol, yeah me too
[01:31] <danieru98> hello, i've configured pulseaudio to use a unix socket, that part works perfectly, problem is when i configure the client to connect to that unix socket by default (by adding default-server to /etc/pulse/client.conf) it makes the pulseaudio deamon not auto start
[01:32] <danieru98> before adding default-server to /etc/pulse/client.conf, pulseaudio autostarted, even after pulseaudio -k. now it doesn't autostart not even after user login
[01:33] <danieru98> i can still start it by runing pulseaudio -D and everything works
[01:34] <danieru98> but i was wondering what would be the correct way to make pulseaudio auto start again, if i should write a service to be started by systemd, or configure something else in pulseaudio
[01:35] <danieru98> i tried adding autospawn = yes to /etc/pulse/client.conf but that didn't help
[01:37] <archpc> can you guys help with my kubuntu issue? their channel is awfully quiet
[01:42] <danieru98> archpc, how much have you waited?
[01:43] <guiverc_d> archpc, ask your issue, and if someone can help you, they will.  but patience may still be required here (people do other things)
[01:55] <kspencer> so um http://scripts.com is not what is implied anymore on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/School/PackagingWithoutCompiling
[01:59] <guiverc_d> kspencer, what is your issue?  the wiki page is from 2008 so is old. do you have something better? and are requesting it be changed to something?
[01:59] <danieru98> kspencer, so someone needs to update the wiki page
[02:02] <nel> helouda
[02:05] <guiverc_d> kspencer, my question was genuine (a better site), ie. if you have a better address; it can be put there.  I suspect the intended audience won't be worried by it though
[02:06] <kspencer> yes, it would be nice to let people know before hand that the log is now just a historical reference
[02:06] <kspencer> sorry didn't send when i thought i did
[02:06] <kspencer> If I do find something though I will let you guys know
[02:10] <guiverc_d> it says 2008 based @ top, and people who use wiki's regularly know to hit <end> to view last-updated, or I assume it anyway, meaning they probably don't :)   but thanks re: updated link if seen..
[02:31] <lurkashflake> Hi I have a backlit keyboard and want to make a colorfull animation on it where can I find the command to control hue and brightness of each key?
[02:40] <krytarik> danieru98: That would be 6 mins fwiw. >_>
[02:49] <birmalpha1> hello
[02:49] <birmalpha1> can someone help me, i hope i am in the right place
[02:49] <birmalpha1> i got a question about my Lubuntu 18 bionic beaver
[02:49] <birmalpha1> that i cannot figure out and it is driving me crazyy
[02:50] <guiverc_d> birmalpha1, if you have a Ubuntu Support question, please just ask it trying to keep to a single line, and please be patient waiting for an answer (if people have an answer, they'll offer it when they can)
[02:50] <birmalpha1> ohh, ok
[02:50] <birmalpha1> ok, well i am sort of new to linux about 5 months in now and i am still learning,  well I can set up VPS ssh all that, but i have been trying these past few days
[02:51] <birmalpha1> to figure out HOW TO RUN SOCKS 5 on my machine ??  how is this done with linux ??  Windows has  Proxier  does some one now
[02:52] <birmalpha1> i tried Dante and tun2socks but it was just so Confusing me,
[02:56] <birmalpha1> Somebody has to know this Solution,,,
[03:06] <angry_route> did you try shadowsocks?
[03:08] <mobile_c_> how do i see what file is owned by what package
[03:09] <mobile_c_> as im tryng to find the source code for the find command
[03:10] <guiverc_d> mobile_c_, use `whereis find` to get full path, then `dpkg -S /usr/bin/find` to get package name..
[03:12] <mobile_c_> ok
[03:12]  * mobile_c_ makes an alias for that
[03:18] <mobile_c_> where are bashes aliases kept eg alias grep='grep --color=auto' cus i cant find them in /etc/bash.bashrc not ~/.bashrc
[03:18] <mobile_c_> nor*
[03:20] <charliiiiiiiiiii> hi all-was hopinig someone could help me out id like to run a more recent version of firefox on ubuntu 16.04 than what is present in stock offering how would i add the ppa and install a more recent version
[03:21] <tomreyn> charliiiiiiiiiii: which one do you have right now, and why do you need a newe rone?
[03:22] <charliiiiiiiiiii> will just check think its quantum and i would like a more recent version so i can run netflix in browser without having to use chrome
[03:24] <charliiiiiiiiiii> 64 bit Quantum v 61.0.1
[03:24] <tomreyn> charliiiiiiiiiii: quantum is a browser generation. when you access "help -> about" from the firefox menu, which version does it say?
[03:24] <tomreyn> ah you did that already
[03:25] <tomreyn> now check on firefox.com what the latest version is they have
[03:27] <charliiiiiiiiiii> there is a 61.0.2 which im downloading right now
[03:28] <tomreyn> charliiiiiiiiiii: this will hardly make a difference with regards to netflix. my point is that you already have the (almost) latest version
[03:28] <charliiiiiiiiiii> i think its the beta but not sure how can i find out
[03:28] <charliiiiiiiiiii> dam
[03:28] <tomreyn> charliiiiiiiiiii: just stick with what you have and try to find out what the actuall issue is that prevents netflix from working
[03:29] <charliiiiiiiiiii> is there a way to make FF run-how to go about working that out-i dont know
[03:29] <tomreyn> https://itsfoss.com/netflix-firefox-linux/
[03:29] <charliiiiiiiiiii> run netflix sorry
[03:29] <tomreyn> maybe try this
[03:29] <tomreyn> (first hit when searching for "linux firefox netflix")
[03:41] <charliiiiiiiiiii> no joy chanp what next https://imgur.com/a/sZAqfuS
[03:42] <charliiiiiiiiiii> would adblocker and not accepting 3rd party cookies affect it you think?
[03:48] <charliiiiiiiiiii> i disabled both and all other addons cookies accepted-cant get it working with firefox
[03:48] <charliiiiiiiiiii> how would i go about troubleshooting
[03:49] <charliiiiiiiiiii> eg getting to the root cause
[04:10] <nikolam> edac
[04:24] <nikolam> Hi, I have many errors from EDAC in /var/log/syslog , like "Aug 21 05:48:01 asus4 kernel: [  362.616476] EDAC MC0: 1 UE i82975x UE on DIMM A2 or DIMM B2 or DIMM B2 or DIMM B2 (csrow:2 page:0x17d6d0 offset:0x0 grain:128)"
[04:24] <nikolam> It IS ECC UDIMMs and they are supported by CPU and motherboard.
[04:25] <nikolam> edac-util does not say that there is an error, but I am curious why then log is filled with EDAC info??
[04:25] <nikolam> https://bpaste.net/show/919756e6bdd2
[04:40] <lotuspsychje> nikolam: repeated errors like that can never be good
[04:40] <lotuspsychje> nikolam: replace your rams one by one to test?
[04:51] <zwMagic> first time come here
[05:06] <nikolam> lotuspsychje, I don't think that is wise. I want to know ehat message means. And edac-uil says there is no problem. So I thnk it is not wise to just assume something, but to see what software is telling us.
[05:06] <nikolam> I am therefore here to see with buntu community what that means not to assume things.
[05:12] <VeryNewToLinux> Hi all. I by mistake typed ALt+crtl + F1 ou F2. Tell me please how to get back to the original graphical destop from that black screen?
[05:12] <EriC^^> VeryNewToLinux: alt+f7
[05:13] <VeryNewToLinux> Thanks Eric.  actually, I tried
[05:13] <VeryNewToLinux> typing startx already
[05:14] <VeryNewToLinux> So I got to a differetn deesktop. Maybe a different user session?
[05:14] <VeryNewToLinux> I didn't try F7 though.
[05:15] <VeryNewToLinux> The original applications seem to not have shut down.
[05:15] <VeryNewToLinux> For exemple, music from a game is still playing.
[05:16] <VeryNewToLinux> If I try opening Tor Browser, I get an error.
[05:16] <VeryNewToLinux> I'm asked to close the original Tor browser till running.
[05:18] <VeryNewToLinux> So how do I go back to the original situation and open applications?
[05:19] <CarlFK> VeryNewToLinux: im guessing here, hope not too much is at risk: try logging out
[05:19] <VeryNewToLinux> Hi CarlFk
[05:20] <VeryNewToLinux> I'd rather not lose the open documents + pages in the orginal situation..
[05:21] <VeryNewToLinux> How should I log out without losing them?
[05:22] <VeryNewToLinux> if it's not clear, I don't mind losing what I opened since typing startx.
[05:22] <VeryNewToLinux> It's what is from before that I want to keep.
[05:24] <CarlFK> I can't imagine that logging out this 2nd X sessionn will hurt the first
[05:25] <VeryNewToLinux> ok
[05:28] <VeryNewToLinux> Once I log out, any idea for going back to the 1st ?
[05:29] <VeryNewToLinux> I won't have the graphical way to ask questions. And I don't know at all what to do with terminal.
[05:29] <CarlFK> Alt-F7
[05:30] <VeryNewToLinux> Alt + F7 now?
[05:30] <VeryNewToLinux> or from terminal at all timees?
[05:30] <CarlFK> you can try it now
[05:30] <VeryNewToLinux> or from the special black page when there is no graphical at all?
[05:31] <CarlFK> both
[05:31] <VeryNewToLinux> weird...
[05:31] <VeryNewToLinux> I tried.
[05:31] <VeryNewToLinux> But it grabs the current window.
[05:34] <VeryNewToLinux> with the hand icon.
[05:34] <VeryNewToLinux> I can move the window.
[05:35] <lotuspsychje> nikolam: https://www.mjmwired.net/kernel/Documentation/edac.txt
[05:35] <lotuspsychje> nikolam: https://buttersideup.com/mediawiki/index.php/Main_Page
[05:39] <VeryNewToLinux> Hi lotuspsychje
[05:40] <VeryNewToLinux> Are your links  to answer my  question?
[05:41] <lotuspsychje> VeryNewToLinux: no, check the username in front its for nikolam not you
[05:44] <Zexaron> join ##hardware
[05:44] <VeryNewToLinux> ah thanks
[05:45] <VeryNewToLinux> do you see my questoin?
[05:47] <CarlFK> try ctrl-alt-f7
[05:47] <CarlFK> although I think you have already killed the session you are trying to get to
[05:48] <CarlFK> because when I alt-f2, log in, startx - I just get an empty .. just wall paper and mouse cursror.  don't get any icons or any way to start something, like chat or logout
[05:49] <radens> How can I downgrade my kernel?
[05:52] <lotuspsychje> radens: we dont advice to downgrade on ubuntu, whats your problem exactly?
[05:53] <radens> lotuspsychje: ubuntu silently upgraded the kernel on me so now my symbols are wrong. I went to download symbols for 4.13.0-46-generic
[05:53] <radens> at http://ddebs.ubuntu.com/pool/main/l/linux-hwe/ but they aren't there
[05:53] <radens> Lacking symbols for my debugging I would like to downgrade to my old kernel
[05:54] <lotuspsychje> radens: your ubuntu version please?
[05:54] <radens> xenial I think?
[05:54] <radens> 17.10
[05:54] <lotuspsychje> radens: 17.10 is end of life mate
[05:55] <lotuspsychje> radens: install a supported ubuntu version from our topic please
[05:55] <radens> really?
[05:55] <radens> This is a test VM
[05:55] <lotuspsychje> !17.10 | radens yes
[05:56] <radens> Installing ubuntu takes a while and I'm low on disk space.
[05:56] <lotuspsychje> !eolupgrade | radens is also possible
[05:56] <lotuspsychje> radens: but still, we reccomend installing new, cause of recent security flaws see !usn
[05:57] <VeryNewToLinux__> Hi CarlFK.
[05:57] <VeryNewToLinux__> It worked!
[05:57] <VeryNewToLinux__> The session is still on.
[05:58] <VeryNewToLinux__> How to end the second startx session?
[06:23] <VeryNewToLinux_> bye
[06:29] <ZzZombo> Hello. Why does `grub` on my machine often pops up with a bare command prompt (not the usual menu for OS selection) on my laptop boot?
[06:29] <Aaron> any hints or messages that come with the grub it self.?
[06:31] <ZzZombo> What I remember of, something like "minimal bash (?) like editing functionality supported". Nothing indicating any failure or error.
[06:32] <Aaron> then google search you might come over a. Bug
[06:32] <ZzZombo> `Ctrl+Alt-Delete` only seems to restart back into the same prompt over and over.
[06:33] <ZzZombo> I can only break out of the loop by going into BIOS and exiting w/o changes, or issuing `exit` command in the prompt.
[06:34] <ZzZombo> After this, `grub` correctly presents me OS selection menu, and I boot normally.
[06:34] <CarlFK> ZzZombo: im guessing you have a usb device that looks like a drive
[06:34] <ZzZombo> Yes, I do.
[06:34] <CarlFK> something that is confusing which is the first boot device
[06:34] <Aaron> remove it then
[06:34] <Aaron> and check
[06:35] <ZzZombo> No way? It hosts the very system I boot into, this installation of Ubuntu.
[06:40] <lotuspsychje> ZzZombo: screenshot?
[06:40] <Aaron> lol
[06:41] <Aaron> are you in the installation process?
[06:41] <Aaron> or you Just boot over USB
[06:41] <ZzZombo> https://4bds6hergc-flywheel.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/Boot_Repair_Ubuntu_Linux_1.jpeg
[06:41] <ZzZombo> I have already installed the system and been using it ever since.
[06:42] <guiverc_d> ZzZombo, stage 1 of grub is MBR of boot device, stages 1.5-2 are the /boot of xy device - I would check to see if this xy device is sometimes unplugged (usb or other) or check it's SMART data for an approaching failure...  (my only thought)
[06:57] <qwebirc16092> I've installed ubuntu on win10. Does anyone know how to make a symlink to a file/dir in the windows part?
[07:55] <crackpotmark> I assume you mean alongside win10
[07:56] <crackpotmark> Have a look at the ln command
[07:56] <crackpotmark> Syntax 'ln -s ORIGINAL NEWLINK'
[07:57] <crackpotmark> Oh he left
[07:57] <crackpotmark> Oops
[08:04] <wblackstone> ii
[08:04] <wblackstone> hi
[08:10] <test234> Test
[08:11] <bolt4> |
[08:11] <bolt4> |                  .---------.
[08:24] <ZzZombo> How can I make Ubuntu not to trigger locale switching on Ctrl+Shift in case it's part of another key combination, like Ctrl+Shift+Left arrow?
[08:24] <qwebirc16285> hi - just updated on 18.04 and super+left and super+right now seems to be a keyboard to switch tty - how do I stop this?
[08:25] <tarkus> Q: Where can I find ICU data files on Ubuntu 16.04?
[08:25] <qwebirc16285> now seems to be a shortcut* to switch tty
[08:31] <hendick> hallo#
[08:34] <rogerroger> hi - the keyboard-configuration and console-setup updates have changed my super+left and super+right bindings to now switch TTY, how do I stop this?
[08:36] <mous> rogerroger: should be somewhere in:  https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/keyboard-shortcuts-set.html.en
[08:36] <mous> check your keybindings and adjust as needed
[08:38] <lulak> How to restart networking in bionic server? like systemctl restart networking does not work
[08:40] <rogerroger> @mous, this is switching physical tty, it's outside of gnome (same as if you press control-alt-f1, f2, etc)
[08:40] <mous> oh, nevermind :(
[08:40] <rogerroger> i have not touched any keyboard shortcuts within gnome
[08:40] <rogerroger> :( it's really annoying
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[08:46] <semper-fidelis> I need help with low speaker volume I have alsamixer channels all set to max and sliders all set to 100-150 but still cant make out whats being said on video\
[08:46] <mous> semper-fidelis: I know this sounds silly, but you checked the volume settings in the video player itself, right?
[08:47] <semper-fidelis> 100 seems too low and 150 overdrives surely i am not the only one? its on multiple boxes
[08:47] <semper-fidelis> mous yes ive checked this iss my  last resort coming here for help
[08:47] <semper-fidelis> when windows is installed volume is ok
[08:48] <mous> semper-fidelis: from the CLI you should be able to:
[08:48] <mous> pactl set-sink-volume 0 150% (start slow)
[08:49] <mous> 0 is the index of the sink you're using
[08:49] <mous> get the index number with:
[08:49] <mous> pacmd list-sinks | grep -e 'name:' -e 'index'
[08:49] <mous> if those commands are not working - sudo apt install pulseaudio-utils
[08:50] <[twisti]> hello, i would like to forward an ftp connection. my ubuntu server has opened a VPN and connecting to the ftp server (with an ip like 192.168...) works fine there. i would like to now forward traffic from other computers on my network in a way that another computer can say "ftp open <ubuntuserver>:12345" and it gets forwarded to the ftp server the ubuntu server sees on 192...
[08:52] <sasso> Hello, i'm using kubuntu since today update i can't use ALT+F2 without switching TTY
[08:52] <sasso> how do i revert it?
[08:54] <semper-fidelis> ctrl+alt+F2 ?
[08:55] <semper-fidelis> btw I have the apt-get update error again as well guys !
[08:55] <sasso> i wish it was CTRL+ALT+F2 like it was since acient times, it's changed to ALT+f2!
[08:55] <semper-fidelis> try another keyboard?
[08:55] <sasso> done
[08:55] <sasso> i'm suspecting guys either from systemd or from xorg
[08:56] <sasso> are responsible
[08:56] <Borw3> guys, is their any alternative to cheese? My cheese keeps failing, it flashes working for 1 second then error "There was error playing video from webcam"
[08:57] <Aliekezhi> hi, how can I configure samba for nautilus or any programs to be able to mount samba 1 network ?
[08:58] <crackpotmark> Add it to your fstab
[08:58] <mous> semper-fidelis: that help at all with your volume?
[08:58] <semper-fidelis> well the cli u just gave me does the same thinig as the gui
[08:59] <mous> semper-fidelis: Odd - got hardware volume controls that might be set low?
[08:59]  * mous is running out of ideas lol
[08:59] <semper-fidelis> no im going top drop back to 16 lts its got other issues too and this is my GF's bedroom computer so
[08:59] <semper-fidelis> dont want ANY problems lol
[09:03] <Aliekezhi> crackpotmark, well, when I was in 16.04, I only had to click on the folder and it was automounting, but now it tries to use samba 2.0 so not working anymore
[09:03] <Aliekezhi> crackpotmark, I could do that yeah, but I would like to enable samba 1.0 if it's possible
[09:04] <Aliekezhi> for example I could need to just connect 1 time to a network share using samba 1.0, so fstab wouldn't be the best solution
[09:06] <crackpotmark> Smb 1.0 is outdated and unsecure
[09:06] <Aliekezhi> crackpotmark, yeah but some old network hard drive are using it...
[09:07] <crackpotmark> In what way is it not working?
[09:20] <guiverc_d> Aliekezhi, my old samba devices mount with `mount //network/share /dir -o username=blah,password=blahblah,sec=ntlm,iocharset=utf8,vers=1.0,dir_mode=0777,file_mode=0777` - you could try same?
[09:25] <lulak> How to restart networking in bionic server? like systemctl restart networking does not work
[09:25] <Aliekezhi> guiverc_d, yes, I also use vers=1.0 for it to work
[09:26] <lotuspsychje> !netplan | lulak start here
[09:27] <lotuspsychje> lulak: see also #ubuntu-server
[09:29] <guiverc_d> Aliekezhi, i used to have them automount via /etc/fstab; but no longer use the devices (except for backup scripts; where script mounts the device so nothing in fstab anymore)
[09:30] <bipul> How do i find the End of life of distro via command line?
[09:32] <guiverc_d> bipul, `ubuntu-support-status`
[09:37] <bipul> guiverc_d: Thank you.
[09:38] <guiverc_d> :)   you're most welcome
[09:44] <bipul> guiverc_d: Do you know where i can find the man page for ubuntu-support-status?
[09:44] <bipul> !ubuntu-support-status
[09:44] <bipul> !help
[09:45] <bipul> !command
[09:46] <jink> bipul: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/xenial/man1/check-support-status.1.html
[09:46] <guiverc_d> bipul, `ubuntu-support-status --help` provides list of its options
[09:47] <bipul> Yes, but i need to understand the output.
[09:49] <SOOS> hello
[09:51] <bipul> But the output shows about packages not the name of specific repostiory details and OS name version and eol.
[09:51] <bipul> https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/rBhHyVQkHV/
[09:53] <Shabbysheik> bipul: https://www.ubuntu.com/about/release-cycle
[09:54] <guiverc_d> 'main' supported packages are 5 years for LTS; 3y = 'universe' supported - the no-longer-downloaded could be from removed sources (pre do-release-upgrade, or ppa's you've removed)... you'll have to provide a package for me to be specific
[09:55] <[twisti]> hello, i would like to forward an ftp connection. my ubuntu server has opened a VPN and connecting to the ftp server (with an ip like 192.168...) works fine there. i would like to now forward traffic from other computers on my network in a way that another computer can say "ftp open <ubuntuserver>:12345" and it gets forwarded to the ftp server the ubuntu server sees on 192...
[09:57] <dkas> Hi all. Quick question concerning a snap install of nextcloud and apparmor.
[09:57] <dkas> I have a snap install of nextcloud that accesses a locally mounted cifs share under /media/cloud
[09:58] <dkas> I can access /media/cloud just fine, but apparently, apparmor is denying the nextcloud snap to access this share
[09:59] <guiverc_d> bipul, my own test-system's unsupported packages are just wallpaper, theme files & some doco files - none of which concern me...
[10:00] <jink> [twisti]: Something like this, perhaps: https://serverfault.com/q/411538
[10:00] <lotuspsychje> [twisti]: ftp is a security risk these days, consider using another safe protocol
[10:00] <dkas> Since I do not have any experience on how to modify apparmor profiles, can anyone lend a hand on what I needed to adjust to let the snap access this share?
[10:00] <[twisti]> lotuspsychje: not our call, and its behind an SSL VPN
[10:00] <[twisti]> thanks jink
[10:02] <dkas> fwiw, I used /media/cloud as a mount point since I was told that this is the only place the snap is allowed to have rw access to
[10:09] <xubuntu18041> I installed 18.04 , so my question is, as I have fully updated 18.04 , is my system now 18.04.1 , or do I need to install the 18.04.1 iso ??
[10:10] <lotuspsychje> xubuntu18041: sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade
[10:10] <lotuspsychje> xubuntu18041: to check if your on latest: lsb_release -a
[10:11] <xubuntu18041> lotuspsychje; No LSB modules are available. Distributor ID: Ubuntu Description: Ubuntu 18.04.1 LTS Release: 18.04 Codename: bionic
[10:12] <lotuspsychje> xubuntu18041: looks good
[10:13] <xubuntu18041> lotuspsychje; Thank you
[10:13] <lotuspsychje> xubuntu18041: keep your system up to date always, and you will be great
[10:14] <xubuntu18041> lotuspsychje; I check every-day!
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[10:21] <jottr> On ubuntu server, how do I make sure, that ubuntu user (or any other user for that matter) can't run `sudo su` without providing a password?
[10:23] <lotuspsychje> !sudo | jottr
[10:23] <lotuspsychje> jottr: see also #ubuntu-server for specific server issues
[10:25] <guiverc_d> jottr, sudo should always ask for password; except if it was recently used & given (and is thus within the few mins for elevated privileges; unless you've changed config to make password-less or huge-timeouts)
[10:39] <enchi> |                     ____
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[10:39] <enchi> |          _________|[10:39] <dkas> an update to my problem with snap and apparmor: Running 'snap connect nextcloud:removable-media' gives me access to the /media/cloud share. Now my question changes: how can I make sure that the installed snap has always access to this option? Or to ask differently: how can I configure the nextcloud snap to always connect to the removable-media?
[11:00] <Anticom> Hi guys. How can i read a kernel variable using sysctl?
[11:00] <Anticom> I only found how to write one in the man page
[11:00] <Anticom> Or am i miss understanding a concept here?
[11:01] <Anticom> To be more specific i need to increase vm.max_map_count but i'd like to know what the current value is before setting it because i just need it for a test
[11:02] <Anticom> i guess i could do `cat /proc/sys/vm/max_map_count` but there's gotta be a sysctl-way of doing this, right?
[11:04] <JimBuntu> Anticom, sysctl -n vm.max_map_count
[11:05] <Anticom> JimBuntu: I find the man page is quite confusing on this one "Use this option to disable printing of the key name when printing values."
[11:05] <Anticom> It could just say "print the variables value" etc.
[11:06] <JimBuntu> Anticom, yeah, you can also simply sysctl vm.max_map_count and it will print the variable name and the value
[11:06] <Anticom> this is what happens if developers write documentation i guess :D
[11:06] <Anticom> JimBuntu: okay cheers
[11:19] <boxrick> Hello!
[11:20] <boxrick> I have installed lubuntu-core with install_recommends: no. I want for it to have no screensaver or autolock. What is the easiest way of configuring this from a config file?
[11:21] <suza> guys, ive got a question concerning compression, suse doenst make live cds, as far as i understand live cds use compression. Are there drawbacks to it? or is it just tradition?
[11:23] <JimBuntu> suza, live cds don't have to use compression, or at least, they don't need to rely on it a lot... obviously if you want a gz init file... then there is some compression. Are you sure "compression" is what you are talking about? Either way, doesn't sound like an Ubuntu support question.
[11:30] <guiverc_d> suza, squashfs makes the image smaller, so iso's are smaller.  drawback is it needs to be expanded prior to use (thus slightly slower). unofficial 'live' systems exist for opensuse but as already stated - off-topic here.
[11:35] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[11:38] <Industrial> Hi. I have updated ubuntu
[11:38] <Industrial> and now whenever I log out all my processes are killed
[11:38] <Industrial> including tmux
[11:38] <user284> hi @ll
[11:38] <Industrial> .. which should not happen. It should keep my sessions alive. It's the reason you use tmux.
[11:39] <user284> i wont in the german channel pls link # ?
[11:40] <guiverc_d> !de
[11:40] <Industrial> Can use linux but cannot speak english :/
[11:40] <user284> thx
[11:42] <JimBuntu> Industrial, does the same thing happen is you SSH in when no user is logged in at the console?
[11:42] <user284> ubuntu-de  ist niemand
[11:42] <Industrial> JimBuntu: I don't know. It's systemd killing the tmux process (and any process) when you log out
[11:43] <Industrial> apparently it's in logind.conf
[11:43] <Industrial> KillUserProcesses=no
[11:43] <Industrial> thanks
[11:44] <guiverc_d> sorry I can't help user284, all I can suggest is try later for #ubuntu-de
[11:45] <guiverc_d> (Tut mir leid, ich kann user284 nicht helfen, alles, was ich vorschlagen kann, ist später für # ubuntu-de zu versuchen)  -- my last translated online to deutsche
[11:59] <user284> hi leute ich suche ein bootmanager und kenntnisse darüber     was ist  Rbootd = bootmanager ?
[11:59] <CoolerZ> how do you install a TeX distribution on ubuntu 18.04?
[12:00] <CoolerZ> i already installed texmaker
[12:04] <guiverc_d> CoolerZ, maybe this will help - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LaTeX
[12:06] <user284> ich formuliers mal so ich such ein  bootmanager  ist rbbod überhaupt ein bootmanager wenn ja wo finde ich das ?
[12:07] <user284> rbootd
[12:07] <BluesKaj> user284, English please !
[12:07] <user284> sorry
[12:09] <CoolerZ> why does apt-get use http instead of https?
[12:10] <guiverc_d> CoolerZ, not all mirrors support https, so for now http....
[12:11] <leftyfb> Also, what's the point? What personal data is going over the line when downloading packages from mirrors?
[12:15] <noobixlex> hey guys, do i need a special kernel to use virtio in qemu?
[12:28] <Kuwanger> Is imwheel still the accepted way to change the mouse wheel scroll rate?
[12:45] <jeffree> are there any known issues with update-manager?
[12:45] <apollo13> jeffree: most likely
[12:46] <apollo13> it's software after all
[12:46] <jeffree> I just had update manager up with updates ready to install, I closed it without installing, ran it again and it says it's up to date
[12:46] <jeffree> apollo13: I agree, unfortunately
[12:47] <jeffree> I'm almost certain something weird is going on with it
[12:48] <jeffree> when there are security updates: download and install automatically. When there are other updates: display immediately. Those are my settings.
[12:49] <jeffree> I think that might have something to do with it.
[12:50] <jeffree> why is signing in required for livepatch?
[12:56] <tomreyn> jeffree: because it's a commercial service offering (with a free tier).
[13:05] <ariSun> Hiya folks, I seem to have a small problem: I need debug symbols to trace down a consistent crash in Evince and send a decent report, but I have no -dbg package in 18.04 repos
[13:06] <ariSun> There's an evince-dbg package for older versions of Evince in earlier releases, but that's not gonna be of use
[13:06] <ariSun> What should I do?
[13:15] <test234> Ubuntu needs to make a frikken release that doesn’t have everything
[13:16] <pragmaticenigma> test234: they already have... check out minimal install
[13:16] <pragmaticenigma> !minimal
[13:19] <Kingsy> I have an insanly old box that I cant update to a newer version (ubuntu 12) is tehre any way I can install updated CA certs on it?
[13:19] <pragmaticenigma> !eol | Kingsy
[13:20] <Kingsy> pragmaticenigma: then different question, can you tell with openssl which ca cert file is being used?
[13:21] <pragmaticenigma> Kingsy: 12.04 reached EOL in April of 2017. It is no longer supported. There is no way to perform the action you are requesting either. Also, the SSL technologies made available in 12.04 have mostly been deprecated or outright dropped on the open internet.
[13:21] <pragmaticenigma> Due to vulnerabilities
[13:21] <Kingsy> well if I knew which CA was expiered I could copy the renewed one over from another system as a patch
[13:21] <Kingsy> crap I know.
[13:23] <pragmaticenigma> Kingsy: I have a laptop from circa 2003, that is running Ubuntu 18.04.1 presently. I know it is possible to run the latest version of Ubuntu on the really old hardware
[13:23] <Kingsy> Great! thanks]
[13:23] <pragmaticenigma> Kingsy: For installation on that machine I used the mini.iso installer (which only has core modules, downloads packages from the internet on install)
[13:23] <hateball> !eolupgrade | Kingsy
[13:24] <pragmaticenigma> Kingsy: In that installation I chose the minimal Lubuntu installation, at first, and then added the packages I desired afterwards
[13:46] <danboid> What 16.04 kernels support the non-free nvidia drivers esp nvidia-384?
[13:47] <danboid> Every kernel I've tried (inc. the 4.15.0-32 kernel) just stalls at the 'Building initial module' dkms stage
[13:47] <lotuspsychje> danboid: wich graphics card do you have?
[13:47] <leftyfb> danboid: How are you installing the driver exactly?
[13:48] <danboid> lotuspsychje, Good question. This is for an LTSP image so I'll likely need 2 LTSP images - one for the Quadro and one for the non-Quadto boards
[13:48] <debouncer> hello, how can I divide a compressed folder with size of 5gb into two?
[13:48] <danboid> leftyfb, Using apt
[13:49] <danboid> lotuspsychje, One GPU we have is the 1050ti
[13:49] <leftyfb> debouncer: 2 different compressed files comprising ~half of the directory's contents
[13:49] <danboid> lotuspsychje, Another is the Quadro K620
[13:49] <lotuspsychje> danboid: ubuntu-drivers list to see wich drivers are available for your card
[13:51] <danboid> lotuspsychje, Thats no use because the server hosting LTSP isn't using a Nvidia GPU but I don't think that prevents a nvidia driver being installed. We've had an older driver installed before so...
[13:52] <danboid> We're hopefully ordering a new server for 18.04 LTSP but until then I'm trying to get 16.04 into shape
[13:53] <danboid> nvidia-384 should support 1050ti boards, if I can get the kernel module to build
[13:54] <danboid> I've tried the drivers PPA but that had the same prob - kernel modules never built
[13:54] <danboid> I have the kernel source and headers installed
[13:55] <danboid> Looks like I'll have to do a fresh 1604 install on a different machine w/ a Nvidia GPU and find out what kernel version / driver versions marry up
[13:56] <danboid> I'll have to do that at home though
[13:57] <danboid> There must be someone reading this running an up-to-date 16.04 with non-free Nvidia drivers installed
[14:00] <peter___> @search vermeer hat
[14:00] <leftyfb> danboid: there will be nobody with your exact situation/environment. The goal is to troubleshoot what you're doing. Worrying about what other people have isn't going to help you.
[14:00] <leftyfb> peter___: can we help you with something?
[14:01] <danboid> leftyfb, The non-free nvidia drivers will only work with certain kernel releases. Thats what I need to know.
[14:02] <danboid> Sopecifivally, which ubuntu 16.04 kernels support the nvidia-384 driver
[14:02] <leftyfb> danboid: I've never heard of such a thing. At least not in the case of the latest drivers with kernels available in Ubuntu 16.04. So I'm going to go with no, that is not your issue. Try debugging other possible reasons for it failing to build
[14:02] <lotuspsychje> danboid: while time proceeds, drivers change versions..
[14:17] <ExodusInstrument> an update broke my install
[14:18] <lotuspsychje> !details | ExodusInstrument please
[14:20] <ExodusInstrument> an update from ubuntu 16 -> 18 broke the keyboard input and using an onscreen keyboard is tedious so here chatting from a live disc on the same machine if it is more tedious to fix the install it makes sense to reinstall for conservation of energy
[14:21] <ExodusInstrument> how much does canonical charge for official support?
[14:21] <lotuspsychje> ExodusInstrument: are you single user or a company?
[14:22] <ExodusInstrument> lotuspsychje use the single option
[14:22] <lotuspsychje> ExodusInstrument: then you can get free support here in the support channel
[14:22] <ExodusInstrument> the thought of only using live disc is appealing can canonical support this option?
[14:23] <pragmaticenigma> ExodusInstrument: Supprt in this channel is free. We are all volunteers helping each other out.
[14:23] <ExodusInstrument> many problems are experienced by updates
[14:23] <pragmaticenigma> ExodusInstrument: explain what you mean "only using live disk" ?
[14:23] <pragmaticenigma> ExodusInstrument: The live disks are intended for testing and installation only. There are many vulnerablilities out there that the live disk will become suseptable to.
[14:24] <adrian_1908> ExodusInstrument: Keyboard is USB? Ubuntu language is English?
[14:26] <jeffree> am I likely to experience problems wth both gnome and kde installed simultaneously in 18.04?
[14:26] <lotuspsychje> jeffree: you can testout different flavors from one install
[14:27] <lotuspsychje> jeffree: but still we advice if you like one flavor, to install it single
[14:27] <jeffree> right, but I seem to remember it causing problems years back
[14:27] <lotuspsychje> jeffree: too many flavors 'could' mess things up a little sometimes
[14:28] <lotuspsychje> jeffree: thats why we reccomend it as testing
[14:28] <jeffree> ok
[14:28] <lotuspsychje> jeffree: make good backups, and test out your likings
[14:29] <lotuspsychje> !flavors | jeffree
[14:29] <wiko> Hello :)
[14:29] <lotuspsychje> jeffree: you can apt-cache search your favorite flavor desktop name if you like
[14:29] <lotuspsychje> wiko: welcome to ubuntu support, how can we help you?
[14:30] <wiko> I have no problem, I am just here to learn some stuff by reading others problems
[14:31] <compdoc> wiko is profitting from other people's problems :(
[14:32] <wiko> kind off
[14:32] <compdoc> lol
[14:32] <danboid> Our pain is wiko's gain
[14:34] <boxrick> Midori browser has a --display parameter, which only seems happy to take :0.0 as a parameter
[14:34] <boxrick> What is a sensible way of giving it the second display for example?
[14:35] <leftyfb> boxrick: tried :0.1 ?
[14:35] <boxrick> Yea it sadly didn't seem to like it
[14:36] <adrian_1908> and :1.0 ? (grasping at straws here)
[14:36] <ubuntuwire> my ubuntu usb stick wont boot on my desktop it works on my laptop but as soon as i push f12 for boot menu it recognizes the operating system says syslinux but then just restarts the computer help please
[14:36] <boxrick> Ya also tried that one, xrandr | grep " connected " | awk '{ print$1 }' lists them as DP-1 and DP-2
[14:36] <leftyfb> adrian_1908: :1 would be a different display server, not screen
[14:37] <adrian_1908> i see
[14:37] <lotuspsychje> ubuntuwire: are you gonna install ubuntu single or dualboot?
[14:37] <boxrick> But those don't work as arguments into the program. So I guess I am missing something
[14:37] <boxrick> Perhaps I should give some context here. I have two monitors, I wish to launch a fullscreen browser on each.
[14:37] <lotuspsychje> boxrick: does the manpage show anything usefull? see also the small #midori channel
[14:38] <boxrick> Not really, I think this more Ubuntu than Midori related and how it sees the displays
[14:38] <ubuntuwire> :lotuspsychje i am trying to just boot into opearitng system without install but it wont even boot into os it just says syslinux at bios then just restarts
[14:38] <pragmaticenigma> jeffree: You can install as many Desktop Environments as you like. However, some environments do not play well with the Desktop Manager (where you login from). For simplicity, it is recommended that you choose your preferred desktop envirnoment (KDE, Gnome3, Unity, LXDE, XFCE, etc) and stick with that. You can switch later, and there are plenty of tutorials on how to switch.
[14:39] <ExodusInstrument> pragmaticenigma: if support is free build up a custom live disk for my hardware
[14:39] <lotuspsychje> ubuntuwire: uefi settings right? how did you create your usb stick?
[14:40] <ExodusInstrument> adrian_1908: the keyboard is likely ps2, and using english yes
[14:40] <ubuntuwire> i used universal usb installer but it boots on my laptop fine but not desktop
[14:40] <pragmaticenigma> ExodusInstrument: Can you be more definitive in what keyboard you computer has, or is this computer a laptop?
[14:41] <ExodusInstrument> pragmaticenigma: similar to a laptop it is called a netbook, the inlaid keyboard is likely ps2
[14:41] <lotuspsychje> ubuntuwire: ok if its working, try your uefi settings perhaps? secureboot and fastboot disabled?
[14:42] <ExodusInstrument> we at ubuntu need to collect system assets reports
[14:42] <ubuntuwire> well there not disable on my latop and it works with uefi and secureboot on
[14:42] <pragmaticenigma> adrian_1908: the --display argument for Midori is for launching from a different environment where the Display environment variable may not be defined, or available. Most multiple monitor installations use xinearama for the displays, which allows both monitors to act as one, thus you will not have a :0.x available
[14:42] <leftyfb> ubuntuwire: export DISPLAY=:0.1 midori
[14:43] <leftyfb> or maybe a ; before midori
[14:43] <leftyfb> ubuntuwire: export DISPLAY=:0.1 ; midori
[14:43] <pragmaticenigma> ExodusInstrument: Making assumptions about the connection of an internal keybaord isn't correct. The correct response is my computer is a laptop (or netbook) and the keyboard is directly attached to the motherboard.
[14:44] <pragmaticenigma> boxrick: the --display argument for Midori is for launching from a different environment where the Display environment variable may not be defined, or available. Most multiple monitor installations use xinearama for the displays, which allows both monitors to act as one, thus you will not have a :0.x available
[14:45] <adrian_1908> pragmaticenigma: I think leftyfb's message is also meant for boxrick?
[14:45] <ExodusInstrument> pragmaticenigma: the keyboard is directly connected to the mainboard
[14:45] <leftyfb> yep, sorry
[14:45] <leftyfb> boxrick: export DISPLAY=:0.1 ; midori
[14:45] <boxrick> Cheers
[14:45] <boxrick> Will give it a go
[14:46] <lotuspsychje> ubuntuwire: try both disabled
[14:47] <boxrick> Sadly I don't think :0.1 exists as far as Ubuntu is concerned only 0:0
[14:47] <leftyfb> boxrick: :0.0 is the first X server and first display. 0.1 is the first X server and 2nd display
[14:48] <leftyfb> boxrick: open a terminal in each display and run: echo $DISPLAY
[14:48] <leftyfb> that will show you
[14:48] <leftyfb> you might also try putting it in quotes
[14:48] <leftyfb> boxrick: export DISPLAY=":0.1" ; midori
[14:49] <ubuntuwire> lotuspsychje: it worked before with ubuntu just not with kubuntu
[14:49] <ExodusInstrument> pragmaticenigma: build a custom iso for my machine
[14:50] <lotuspsychje> ubuntuwire: try both disabled, if that doesnt solve we can close out
[14:58] <hggdh> ExodusInstrument: I am sorry, I do not quite follow your request. Do you want *us* to build a custom ISO for you? or what?
[15:02] <lotuspsychje> hggdh: think he confuses, that a custom iso would make his keyboard work again
[15:03] <lotuspsychje> hggdh: lts upgrade scrambled his keyboard layout
[15:04] <hggdh> lotuspsychje: ack. Still, we do not "build custom ISOs", and I wanted to be sure it is indeed this
[15:05] <ExodusInstrument> hggdh yes build a live cd to the specifications of my hardware and applications using the free discount for single option
[15:06] <hggdh> ExodusInstrument: I think you got it wrong. Ubuntu is free. This channel provides free support for *ubuntu (Ubuntu and official deviratives), but...
[15:07] <hggdh> ExodusInstrument: you get help if (1) people here know what it is you have a problem with, (2) are available, or interested, (3) can be done via IRC
[15:08] <hggdh> ExodusInstrument: so, nobody here is going to build you a custom ISO. People may work with you to find out what happened, and help you fix it, but this is pretty much it.
[15:09] <hggdh> ExodusInstrument: if you want real support (also known as *paid* support), then there are many companies around (including Canonical) that do that.
[15:10] <hggdh> ExodusInstrument: in summary: I have no idea what you mean by "free discount for single option." Nothink like that here.
[15:10] <boxrick> I think I see where my display problem lies
[15:10] <ExodusInstrument> hggdh: is that what you think? pragmaticenigma has other claims
[15:10] <boxrick> xrandr lists both displays as Screen 0
[15:10] <boxrick> Then has the combined resolution
[15:11] <boxrick> So in this case 1920 x 1080 * 2 ( 3840 x 1080 )
[15:11] <boxrick> How odd
[15:11] <lotuspsychje> hggdh: his original question mentioned how much canonical asked for price to solve his issue...
[15:11] <SimonNL> boxrick: extended screen i think boxrick
[15:12] <boxrick> Is there a way to disable this to get two independent screens
[15:12] <boxrick> ?
[15:12] <SimonNL> display settings I reckon
[15:13] <SimonNL> 3840 x 1080   max capability of your gfx card I think boxrick
[15:14] <boxrick> Nah it drives 4k easily, that is just the resolution I set
[15:14] <hggdh> ExodusInstrument: pragmaticenigma is trying to *help* you find the issue, not build a custom ISO
[15:14] <boxrick> I am trying to get something launching in a specific monitor. But the system just thinks there is a single 0.0
[15:15] <SimonNL> nah don't think so. xrandr shows all connection  options
[15:16] <SimonNL> boxrick: xrandr shows connection options and what is currently connected
[15:17] <SimonNL> boxrick: xrandr|pastebinit
[15:18] <boxrick> https://pastebin.com/p91hDuk7
[15:19] <waterxx> hi, I just installed lubuntu on a old laptop from 2007 and im having trouble with choppy audio and video. Is ati driver. Im wondering if its anything I can do or is it just not possible on ubuntu/lubuntu, it doesnt seem that the standard driver is enough
[15:20] <ExodusInstrument> hggdh: where is a representative of CANONICAL ?
[15:20] <boxrick> Both sides with a terminal open show :0.0 when I echo $DISPLAY
[15:20] <boxrick> So it is clearly grouping them together
[15:21] <hggdh> ExodusInstrument: probably at Canonical offices. We have *NOTHING* to do with Canonical. Do you want a phone number?
[15:21] <leftyfb> ExodusInstrument: https://buy.ubuntu.com/collections/ubuntu-advantage-for-desktop
[15:21] <lotuspsychje> waterxx: is that lubuntu 18.04 you installed?
[15:21] <waterxx> yes
[15:22] <lotuspsychje> waterxx: can you hastebin us: sudo lshw -C video please?
[15:22] <waterxx> unfortunately im not at my laptop atm. until later tonight
[15:22] <waterxx> https://imgur.com/0h7Vmwp
[15:22] <leftyfb> waterxx: troubleshooting only works when you're in front of the computer to be worked on
[15:23] <waterxx> yea sorry about that
[15:23] <leftyfb> waterxx: come back when you're in front of your computer
[15:23] <lotuspsychje> waterxx: you recall the main specs of that computer, cpu/ram?
[15:24] <iffraff_> Hi, I have added a new mime type to my mimeapps.list do I need to restart something for it to take effect?
[15:24] <SimonNL> both display ports set to 1920x1080 boxrick and both should have something on screen
[15:24] <boxrick> Yep thats fine, I changed them to that.
[15:25] <boxrick> They work fine, but I am trying to launch a browser into monitor 0 or monitor 1
[15:25] <boxrick> I cannot do that if the system identifies them as a single monitor
[15:25] <SimonNL> boxrick: if you want different content on the screens you need to disable mirroring in display settings
[15:25] <boxrick> Well they are currently different
[15:25] <boxrick> That isn't the issue, they function perfectly.
[15:26] <boxrick> Both showing independent content
[15:26] <boxrick> But this is a super minimal install with LXDE, I am trying to create a kiosk web browser
[15:26] <boxrick> With different content on each monitor
[15:26] <SimonNL> boxrick: on my derivative we can right click it's tab on the panel and move the windows to other screen or just drag and drop
[15:26] <qwebirc71564> hggdh: what is the mailing address?
[15:26] <waterxx> lotuspsychje: Intel Core 2 Duo T7200 (Intel Core 2 Duo) , and 2gb ram
[15:27] <lotuspsychje> waterxx: that should work for lubuntu
[15:27] <leftyfb> ExodusInstrument: https://buy.ubuntu.com/collections/ubuntu-advantage-for-desktop
[15:27] <waterxx> yes everything works fine its just the audio and video that is not smooth
[15:27] <boxrick> If I have to plug in a keyboard and mouse and start moving stuff around sadly something has gone wrong
[15:27] <lotuspsychje> waterxx: on the browser only, or overall system?
[15:27] <boxrick> Its a script which launches the browser and it just needs to appear in a specified monitor
[15:28] <boxrick> But because they are grouped as a single 0.0 this doesn't seem possible
[15:28] <waterxx> lotuspsychje ive only checked via browser so far, but I will check overall later
[15:28] <boxrick> So I need a solution to snap to a side, or perhaps unlink them.
[15:28] <ExodusInstrument> leftyfb: how about $100 for single user
[15:28] <lotuspsychje> waterxx: if its browser only, it could be your codecs: ubuntu-restricted-extras
[15:28] <waterxx> I suspect i will need additional drivers since I remember it being a problem even on windows. I had to get the specific graphics drivers
[15:29] <leftyfb> ExodusInstrument: That's not how this works. Feel free to contact Canonical from the link I gave you
[15:29] <lotuspsychje> waterxx: radeon driver should have loaded by default, where did you download drivers?
[15:29] <waterxx> lotuspsychje im running everything default atm, not downloaded anything
[15:29] <hggdh> ExodusInstrument: see https://www.canonical.com, or https://www.canonical.com/about
[15:30] <leftyfb> hggdh: the contact info is at the bottom of the page I linked already
[15:30] <lotuspsychje> waterxx: ok, check for more info at home then as leftyfb suggested
[15:30] <hggdh> leftyfb: ack, sorry
[15:31] <leftyfb> ExodusInstrument: This IRC channel is not run by, nor supported by Canonical. It is run by volunteers who are willing to help out. If you want paid support, contact Canonical using the link I gave you. Do not try to negotiate here or even with them. It doesn't work like that. Either pay the price for service or don't.
[15:31] <qwebirc52967> Hello, Ive run into an issue. When I mount a cephFS filesystem (over the network) to /home it causes user accounts to stop working properly.  For example: SSH no longer can recognize the authentisity of the machine and "cd" no longer takes you to the user home directory as it cannot be found
[15:31] <SimonNL> boxrick: check wmctrl out see if there is anything you can do with it
[15:31] <leftyfb> ExodusInstrument: or you could just work with someone here to troubleshoot your install as opposed to demanding free/discounted service or for someone to make you a customer ISO(nobody is going to do that for you)
[15:32] <qwebirc52967> Does anyone know what may be causing this issue?
[15:32] <leftyfb> qwebirc52967: permissions
[15:32] <qwebirc52967> leftyfb: You think its screwing up the permisions when i mount to /home?
[15:33] <leftyfb> qwebirc52967: you're not mounting with the correct permissions. Check the permissions of /home and it's contents before and after mounting
[15:33] <qwebirc52967> okay will do, thanks for the advice
[15:34] <manuel_> hi guys, after an update ubuntu doesn't recognize anymore my sound card, it only sees my hdmi sound (speakers on my screen) followed various guides and only alsa force-reload makes it "find" the internal audio card and makes it work sometimes but I have to do it manually and everytime I reboot it disappears again, please help, it is 2 days that I'm on this matter
[15:34] <wad> So there's a printer here at work, and I'd like to connect to it and print to it. It's a normal HP laserjet. I have the IP address. When I set up Ubuntu (18.04.1 LTS, 64-bit desktop), what do I put into the "Device URI" field? It won't take the IP address. If It use "ipp://10.5.6.7", I get "the printer is not responding".
[15:36] <SimonNL> wad: is there a printer setup program in your menu ?
[15:36] <SimonNL> wad: use that and make the program search for the printer
[15:37] <qwebirc52967> leftyfb: it seems the home directories disapear once i mount
[15:37] <hfp> Did ufw change behaviour? If I enable it and close all ports, will it kick me out of my ssh session before I can allow ssh and reload? It didn't use to be like that IIRC, you could deny all, allow ssh, and then reload; i.e. rules didn't take instant effect
[15:37] <qwebirc52967> do you happen to know a way around this or to somehow since the home directory with the mount first
[15:38] <lotuspsychje> manuel_: ubuntu version please?
[15:38] <leftyfb> qwebirc52967: that means you didn't copy(rsync) them over like you should have. What did you expect would happen to the original directory contents when you mount something else over it?
[15:38] <hggdh> qwebirc52967: if you are mounting another filesystem using /home as a mountpoint, then yes, everything under the original /home will be hidden by the new FS
[15:39] <manuel_> lotuspsychje, 12.04 but I cannot install a more updated version because I got an old machine
[15:39] <qwebirc52967> leftyfb: This is honestly one of my first time mounting remote file systems to a directory. My hope was that they would merge but this is not the case
[15:40] <leftyfb> qwebirc52967: That's not how that works.
[15:40] <lotuspsychje> manuel_: 12.04 is end of life, unless you have ESM?
[15:41] <manuel_> lotuspsychje, I know it is end of life but I cannot install a more updated version, I tried and it didn't work at all
[15:41] <lotuspsychje> manuel_: did you try lubuntu 14.04 for example?
[15:41] <leftyfb> qwebirc52967: you should rsync the contents of /home to your new remote mount while it's temporarily mounted elsewhere. Once it's finished, unmount it and mount it over home. After you've confirmed that every single account is 100% functional, if you need the space on the original /home partition for some reason, delete it's contents before mounting over it. Though that might get tricky while still logged into. Maybe boot to a live cd for that
[15:42] <manuel_> lotuspsychje, I spent days on this matter months ago, tried many distros, on my machine the only one working smoothly is this, please help me on this
[15:42] <lotuspsychje> manuel_: im sorry, we cannot support end of life versions here
[15:42] <lotuspsychje> manuel_: we advice you for stability & security reasons, to install a version from the topic
[15:43] <lotuspsychje> manuel_: what specs does your 'old' pc have exactly?
[15:43] <manuel_> lotuspsychje, I know chat rules, but could you please give me a hint? I'll take care about it myself, but what can I do if I did try many distros and the only one working smoothly is this?
[15:43] <leftyfb> manuel_: did you try lubuntu 18.04.1?
[15:43] <qwebirc52967> thanks leftyfb ,Do you know if once i do the rsync and mount If i will users added to a server automatically have there home directory shared?
[15:44] <manuel_> lotuspsychje, it's a pentium man...
[15:44] <leftyfb> qwebirc52967: shared?
[15:44] <lotuspsychje> manuel_: i really doubt a machine that rubs 12.04 could not run another version..
[15:44] <lotuspsychje> runs
[15:45] <qwebirc52967> leftyfb: Im hoping to mount this directory to several systems that all have the same users so that there data can be accessed from any of them
[15:45] <leftyfb> qwebirc52967: that could get ugly if you don't know what you're doing. There are solutions for this actually
[15:46] <manuel_> lotuspsychje, man, I understand your doubts but I don't have the money to update my machine, and I really did try many different distros including lubuntu, nothing works smoothly like 12.04
[15:46] <leftyfb> qwebirc52967: is this for remote SSH access only?
[15:46] <leftyfb> manuel_: did you try lubuntu 18.04.1?
[15:46] <lotuspsychje> manuel_: try lubuntu 18.04.1 as leftyfb suggests, it has also a minimal option
[15:46] <leftyfb> manuel_: Or xubuntu 18.04.1
[15:47] <leftyfb> manuel_: either way, we cannot and will not support 12.04 here. Sorry
[15:47] <manuel_> thanks a lot guys
[15:47] <manuel_> have a good life
[15:50] <qwebirc52967> leftyfb: yes this is for remote ssh access only. I have been tasked with turning several servers of identical specs into a "cluster" that runs singularity and slurm. The problem is however that for this to work (without disrupting the researchers) i would need the data shared across that users home directory for each system. These servers all have 2 3TB drives available to make a shared storage space and my current plan was to
[15:51] <qwebirc52967> sorry for the lengthy explanation, feel free to ask any questions you have
[15:52] <iffraff_> bump ? Hi, I have added a new mime type to my mimeapps.list do I need to restart something for it to take effect?
[15:52] <ExodusInstrument> do you select pragmaticenigma for language of keyboard?
[15:54] <ExodusInstrument> leftyfb somebody prepared a custom ISO for me
[15:54] <ExodusInstrument> nobody?
[15:55] <ExodusInstrument> quantal
[15:55] <leftyfb> ExodusInstrument: Are you saying someone prepared a custom ISO for you or are you asking if someone will? If the latter, the answer is no.
[15:55] <ExodusInstrument> Is there a representative of CANONICAL in this channel?
[15:55] <leftyfb> ExodusInstrument: no
[15:55] <leftyfb> ExodusInstrument: https://buy.ubuntu.com/collections/ubuntu-advantage-for-desktop
[15:55] <leftyfb> ExodusInstrument: please go there for paid support. Stop asking.
[15:56] <ExodusInstrument> $150 for 50 desktops
[15:56] <leftyfb> ExodusInstrument: also, Ubuntu 12.10 (Quantal Quetzal) is EOL and unsupported here and through paid support. You will not get support for 12.10 anywhere.
[15:57] <leftyfb> ExodusInstrument: please stop Either pay for the paid support or don't. Those are your 2 options with paid support. Stop bringing it up here. It's offtopic
[15:58] <leftyfb> ExodusInstrument: your other option is to explain in detail the issue with your install and someone here might be willing to help you fix it. (NOT create a custom ISO)
[16:01] <qwebirc52967> ExodusInstrument: there also seems to be acnonical-sysadmin channel on freenode. It may help asking questions there
[16:01] <leftyfb> qwebirc52967: That is not the appropriate place to ask for desktop support. Paid or otherwise
[16:01] <qwebirc52967> canonical-sysadmin
[16:02] <qwebirc52967> oh my bad
[16:02] <qwebirc52967> u did not realise this was a desktop support question
[16:02] <qwebirc52967> i*
[16:02] <leftyfb> qwebirc52967: regardless, canonical-sysadmin is not for any type of user support
[16:03] <ExodusInstrument> qwebirc52967: did I violate the first rule of fight club?
[16:03] <qwebirc52967> leftyfb: sounds good, ill make sure to not suggest it again
[16:03] <ExodusInstrument> CANONICAL closed the support chat when negotiating the buy
[16:04] <leftyfb> ExodusInstrument: You were told not to "negotiate" support. Why would you do that? Do you do that when you buy something from Walmart or Best Buy?
[16:05] <ExodusInstrument> in an unspoken way knowing there is a return policy it is a granted negotiation
[16:05] <leftyfb> ExodusInstrument: go troll elsewhere
[16:06] <qwebirc52967> leftyfb: sorry that my problem is a slightly convoluted one. I would prefer to use a more standard cluster setup if possible
[16:06] <ExodusInstrument> if it is pursuant to US laws it is a proxy negotiation against sovereignty backed by armies
[16:06] <lotuspsychje> ExodusInstrument: stop please, dont waste the time of volunteers for fun
[16:06] <ExodusInstrument> usually a return policy is in place pursuant state laws
[16:06] <leftyfb> ExodusInstrument: trolling is offtopic. Please discontinue your useless rants
[16:07] <ExodusInstrument> it isn't difficult, simple sensible need for paid support
[16:07] <leftyfb> ExodusInstrument: please stop
[16:07] <ExodusInstrument> somebody makes an iso to fit my hardware, A+ level technical expertise
[16:07] <qwebirc52967> If you want that service then go pay for it
[16:08] <lotuspsychje> !ops | ExodusInstrument does not understand
[16:08] <ExodusInstrument> you know CompTIA's attempt at industry standards
[16:08] <leftyfb> ExodusInstrument: please stop
[16:10] <ozeran> bonsir
[16:10] <ozeran> bonsoir*
[16:10] <ozeran> hello, soz
[16:10] <leftyfb> !fr | ozeran
[16:11] <ozeran> hell yeah, fast life
[16:11] <lotuspsychje> ozeran: can we help you?
[16:11] <ExodusInstrument> does bionic have any 32bit support?
[16:12] <ioria> ExodusInstrument, only mini.iso
[16:12] <ExodusInstrument> ioria: is that a net installer?
[16:12] <ioria> ExodusInstrument, exactly
[16:12] <leftyfb> ExodusInstrument: https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/09/ubuntu-17-10-32-bit-builds-dropped
[16:15] <ExodusInstrument> ioria: link the mini.iso
[16:15] <ExodusInstrument> torrent if an option
[16:15] <ioria> ExodusInstrument, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[16:15] <ioria> ExodusInstrument, torrent ? just 50mb
[16:17] <qwebirc52967> Does anyone happen to know a good way to distribute storage and users across multiple systems?
[16:17] <leftyfb> qwebirc52967: What you are doing should work
[16:17] <leftyfb> qwebirc52967: If you're only doing ssh
[16:17] <leftyfb> qwebirc52967: No need to ask for alternatives until you come across an issue that prevents it from working
[16:20] <qwebirc52967> okay leftyfb, ill try to proceede as planned, i just wasnt sure due to what you said earlier, thanks for the advice
[16:22] <ttx_> https://pastebin.com/P3Qg2Mz7 help me understand what he needs
[16:24] <leftyfb> ttx_: what version of ubuntu is this?
[16:24] <ttx_> 18/04
[16:24] <adam__> hi guys, cannot make alsa load the correct modules at boot, so no sound, if I give "sudo alsa force-reload" then it works for the current session, but at boot it doesn't indeed if I give "alsa force-reload" without the sudo, this is the output https://pastebin.com/xZBgdm9E how can I give alsa the permission to load the correct modules at boot by itself? thx
[16:25] <leftyfb> ttx_: please post the output of: cat /etc/issue ; uname -a # to pastebin
[16:26] <leftyfb> ttx_: It looks like you are trying to compile a custom, 3rd party kernel? If so, that isn't support here. You'll have to seek support from the vendor of the kernel.
[16:26] <ExodusInstrument> adam__ system admin makes a system user
[16:27] <ioria> ttx_,  if you want to test 4.18, it is available here http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/
[16:27] <ttx_> @leftyfb https://pastebin.com/hZ4iUZTL
[16:27] <adam__> ExodusInstrument, I don't quite understand what you mean
[16:27] <nacc> ExodusInstrument: that makes no sense.
[16:27] <qwebirc52967> leftyfb: if i rscync the /home directory, is there any files that may cause problems if i dont exclude them?
[16:27] <nacc> adam__: i'm fairly sure they are a troll.
[16:27] <adam__> nacc, a troll?
[16:27] <ttx_> I want pf-kernel
[16:27] <qwebirc52967> assuming this is done after a fresh install
[16:27] <leftyfb> qwebirc52967: shouldn't be
[16:28] <leftyfb> ttx_: why?
[16:28] <nacc> adam__: yes, an internet troll. Just ignore them.
[16:28] <qwebirc52967> okay, sounds good, now i just have to figure out how to get it to not skip /home
[16:28] <adam__> nacc, ok, do you know how to solve my issue?
[16:28] <ttx_> https://gitlab.com/post-factum/pf-kernel/wikis/README
[16:29] <nacc> adam__: i don't know, sorry
[16:29] <leftyfb> qwebirc52967: sudo rsync -av/ /home /path/to/temporary/home/mount/
[16:29] <ttx_> they say that it is very well optimized
[16:29] <leftyfb> ttx_: optimized for what? What is your end goal?
[16:29] <ttx_> ))
[16:29] <nacc> ttx_: if you want that kernel, follow their instructions. not an ubuntu problem.
[16:29] <adam__> nacc, will be back, want to try something
[16:30] <qwebirc52967> oh thanks leftyfb ill try that
[16:30] <ttx_> leftyfb, but yesterday everything was going to happen.
[16:31] <leftyfb> ttx_: huh?
[16:31] <leftyfb> !ru | ttx_
[16:31] <ttx_> ok
[16:32] <ttx_> Thank you
[16:32] <wiredoptic> My mouse scroll whell is controlling the volume and not scrolling how can i fix this? I'm useing a case logic 7 buttion mouse model CL-MS-WR-101.
[16:33] <qwebirc52967> That may have done it leftyfb, thanks for all the advice. Im going to do a few more tests however
[17:14] <rainbow_> some ubuntu 18.04 update is giving me this error in chromium: DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NO_INTERNET, i already set my DNS to 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4, and flushed DNS. what else can i do?
[17:16] <donpete> hey guys, how are you doing? Any feedback in regards to the next Ubuntu release?
[17:16] <hggdh> donpete: which one? 18.04 or the in-dev 18.10?
[17:16] <donpete> 18.10
[17:17] <hggdh> donpete: best channel is #ubuntu+1, here we do not deal with in-dev releases
[17:17] <donpete> Sure.. but do you at least have some sort of opinion?
[17:18] <hggdh> no here :-)
[17:18] <rainbow_> will elon musk buy ubuntu?
[17:18] <qwebirc52967> leftyfb: I can confirm that rsyncing worked and i was able to use/make files on multiple systems, thanks again for the advice
[17:19] <rainbow_> some ubuntu 18.04 update is giving me this error in chromium: DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NO_INTERNET, i already set my DNS to 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4, and flushed DNS. what else can i do?
[17:19] <hggdh> rainbow_: please keep on-topic
[17:19] <sonicwind> Is it still necessary to disable Secure Boot in UEFI before installing with the Ubuntu installer/Live DVD?
[17:20] <qwebirc52967> rainbow_: have you made sure you are connected to an external connection?
[17:20] <rainbow_> qwebirc52967: why?
[17:21] <qwebirc52967> rainbow_: if you are attempting to use google dns you will need an external connection to be able to reach it. (assuming you dont work at google)
[17:21] <rainbow_> qwebirc52967: i do have it
[17:21] <donpete> That is not  a local dns issue but rather an issue with the remote server
[17:22] <rainbow_> donpete qwebirc52967 : it solves when i click on the network manager
[17:22] <rainbow_> its like the connection goes to sleep maybe
[17:22] <rainbow_> but i get that DNS error
[17:22] <crackpotmark> why would google chrome be a held back package?
[17:23] <rainbow_> how held back crackpotmark
[17:23] <crackpotmark> The following packages have been kept back:  google-chrome-stable
[17:23] <donpete> LOL.. assuming that you don't have connectivities, therefore it is simply normal for the packages to be held
[17:23] <crackpotmark> using the google repo on xubuntu 16.04.5
[17:24] <rainbow_> is there a big thing coming on 18.10?
[17:25] <lotuspsychje> rainbow_: support in #ubuntu+1 please
[17:27] <donpete> I suppose that the next ubuntu release will reflect deeper blacks and rise your ego since it is from Africa
[17:27] <crackpotmark> donpete: was that for me? I don't understand what you mean
[17:28] <donpete> just kidding.. I dont even know who you are...you could be black
[17:30] <rainbow_> donpete: yes, that was racist
[17:30] <rainbow_> can someone ban donpete, he was clearly racist
[17:30] <rainbow_> donpete said "the next ubuntu release will reflect deeper blacks and rise your ego since it is from Africa"
[17:31] <rainbow_> is there a mod here¡
[17:31] <lotuspsychje> rainbow_: cool down please
[17:31] <lotuspsychje> just let it go
[17:31] <rainbow_> lotuspsychje: i've gotten kicked for less
[17:31] <hggdh> donpete: under NO circumstance is racism accepted here
[17:32] <donpete> LOL..how so? as I mentioned, it was just a joke but still, how do I really know if some of you don't fit the racist remark?
[17:32] <rainbow_> wow donpete
[17:32] <rainbow_> are you retarded donpete ?
[17:33] <hggdh> rainbow_: it applies to you as well
[17:46] <fenris> hi! is it possible to prevent the display from being turned of after locking the screen? i'm using bionic with gnome
[17:48] <hggdh> fenris: you should be able to do that under Settings, either power management, or display
[17:48] <fenris> my display takes some considerable time to wake up from sleep, so i really want it to stay awake
[17:50] <fenris> hggdh: didn't find such a setting in the UI
[17:51] <lotuspsychje> fenris: see also gnome-tweak-tool and dconf-editor for more tweaks on energy
[17:51] <pragmaticenigma> The issue lotuspsychje and hggdh ... the power settings in a user session are not carried back to GDM, which is the lock screen
[17:51] <fenris> hm, no such setting in gnome-tweak-tool, but i'll check out dconfig-editor
[17:52] <hggdh> pragmaticenigma: oh. I am KDE, under 18.10, so I did not know
[17:52] <pragmaticenigma> hggdh: KDE here too... in KDE we have a handy, save as default, which KDM picks up on
[17:54] <fenris> wow, that dconf-editor looks really low level... no idea where to look for such a setting
[17:56] <lotuspsychje> fenris: org/gnome/desktop/screensaver try
[18:01] <SimonNL> fenris: are you sure it's the display sleeping?
[18:04] <fenris> yes, of course
[18:05] <fenris> it turns the display status LED to yellow
[18:05] <fenris> and switches off the backlight
[18:05] <fenris> https://askubuntu.com/questions/450952/how-can-i-enable-screenlock-without-turning-off-the-monitor-ubuntu-gnome-14-04
[18:05] <fenris> *facepalm*
[18:06] <SimonNL> fenris: afaik thats a setting in the monitor
[18:11] <TheSilentLink> What program can I use to rip cds to flac?
[18:14] <yeats> TheSilentLink: abcde is very good if you're comfortable with the command line
[18:15] <pauljw> asunder can do it, TheSilentLink
[18:21] <Quackery> Testing
[18:25] <pragmaticenigma> Test Failed
[18:33] <misthalu> Can someone help me how to invert the colours in Ubuntu 18.04? xcalib doesn't work: Says "Unsupported ramp size".
[18:34] <Quackery> testing
[18:36] <Rockwood> What's a command line way to find large file in folder?
[18:36] <Rockwood> any active?
[18:38] <misthalu> Apparently an old bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xcalib/+bug/1677745
[18:38] <misthalu> I probably shouldn't hold my breath then. :-(
[18:38]  * misthalu goes back to Ubuntu 16.04
[18:41] <nikitha> hi, though off-topic need help in this, how to download playlist of youtube.  one playlist has 10 videos and other playlist has 20 videos. i want to download  full 10 videos at a time and other 20 videos at a time.
[18:42] <leftyfb> nikitha: That is offtopic and I'm pretty sure against the terms of service for youtube
[18:42] <nacc> nikitha: "though offtopic, i'm going to ask anyways" -> go to #ubuntu-offtopic instead of wasting our time.
[18:42] <Rockwood> What's a command line way to find large file in folder?
[18:42] <Cuzner> I'm stuck in some apt circular dependency hell right now just trying to do an apt upgrade, keeps telling me i have some linux-headers dependency, but it won't install them.  Anyone know how to work around the issue?
[18:42] <Cuzner>  linux-headers-generic : Depends: linux-headers-3.13.0-142-generic but it is not going to be installed
[18:42] <leftyfb> Rockwood: ncdu
[18:43] <Rockwood> leftyfb, ncdu is command?
[18:43] <leftyfb> Rockwood: correct, after you install it
[18:43] <nacc> Cuzner: afaict, linux-headers-generic should't depened on that version of the package at this time. You can specify it manually and see why it's failing
[18:44] <Cuzner> nacc: what do you mean by 'specify it manually'?
[18:44] <Cuzner> oh, you mean try apt-get installing it?
[18:45] <Cuzner> >You should explicitly select one to install.
[18:46] <Rockwood> leftyfb, how to pastebin in command output?
[18:46] <Cuzner> nacc: ultimately I'm just trying to upgrade the php packages on this box from 7.0 to 7.1 (old, i know, which is why the kernel-sources are too).
[18:47] <leftyfb> Rockwood: Are you asking how you copy and paste some text into the pastebin.ubuntu.com website?
[18:47] <Cuzner> i figured upgrade would be the fastest way, but apparently not since I can't even run upgrade on this box because of this weird linux-headers dependency problem
[18:48] <Rockwood> leftyfb, yes
[18:48] <nacc> Cuzner: what version of ubuntu are you on?
[18:48] <nacc> Cuzner: 3.13 is a trusty kernela nd there is no php7 support for it
[18:48] <leftyfb> Rockwood: which part are you having a problem with? Do you know how to copy text on a computer?
[18:49] <Cuzner> nacc: ah, okay
[18:49] <Cuzner> yea, it's 3.13
[18:50] <Cuzner> php7.0-common/now 7.0.4-6+deb.sury.org~trusty+5 amd64 [installed,upgradable to: 7.0.31-1+ubuntu14.04.1+deb.sury.org+1]
[18:51] <nacc> Cuzner: yes you are using a ppa
[18:51] <Cuzner> yeah
[18:51] <Cuzner> sorry, i inherited this box, i'm still discovering what's going on here.
[18:51] <Rockwood> leftyfb, at time of command i wanna save full event of ubuntu's pastebin
[18:51] <Cuzner> how would you suggest I fix this issue though?
[18:52] <Cuzner>  linux-headers-generic : Depends: linux-headers-3.13.0-142-generic but it is not going to be installed
[18:52] <leftyfb> Rockwood: what version of ubuntu?
[18:52] <Cuzner> i'll deal with the php stuff once i can run apt upgrade
[18:52] <Rockwood> ubuntu 18.04 leftyfb
[18:53] <nacc> Cuzner: what the command that produces that?
[18:53] <leftyfb> Rockwood: <run your command> | pastebinit
[18:53] <Cuzner> nacc: apt upgrade :)
[18:53] <nacc> Cuzner: ok, try this: `sudo apt-get install linux-headers-generic linux-headers-3.13.0-142-generic`; did you make sure to run `sudo apt-get update` first?
[18:53] <Cuzner> https://pastebin.com/zxxFcqwm
[18:54] <nacc> Cuzner: well, it tells you what to do, as well
[18:54] <nacc> Cuzner: line 5
[18:54] <Cuzner> yep, i alrady did the apt-get update first, as i also had to fix a gpg key expired issue with one of the PPA repos
[18:54] <hggdh> also new kernels need apt full-upgrade
[18:55] <Cuzner> nacc: oh, that looked dangerous, so i didn't, but yea... trying that, now i've got a dpkg error
[18:55] <Cuzner>  unable to create `/usr/src/linux-headers-3.13.0-156/include/linux/platform_data/leds-lm355x.h.dpkg-new' (while processing `./usr/src/linux-headers-3.13.0-156/include/linux/platform_data/leds-lm355x.h'): No space left on device
[18:55] <Cuzner> interesting, disk is only 59% full
[18:56] <ioria> Cuzner, check the inodes  'df -i'
[18:56] <Cuzner> i can't even apt-get autoremove
[18:57] <Cuzner> to clear out these old kernel headers
[18:57] <Cuzner> ioria: good call 100%
[18:57] <leftyfb> Cuzner: http://iam.tj/projects/ubuntu/apt-autoremove-old-kernels
[18:57] <ioria> Cuzner, no good
[18:57] <leftyfb> oh, nm. Out of space
[18:58] <ioria> Cuzner, sudo find . -xdev -type f | cut -d "/" -f 2 | sort | uniq -c | sort -n
[18:58] <Cuzner> how do i free up inodes?  and why do my inodes say 100% yet df -h says only 59% full?
[18:58] <Cuzner> ioria: from root dir i assume?
[18:59] <ioria> Cuzner, /,yes
[19:00] <Cuzner> ioria: still running, i'm assuming i won't see output until this find is finished, so it might be a while
[19:00] <ioria> Cuzner, yep
[19:01] <Cuzner> https://pastebin.com/NPLVHQca
[19:03] <ioria> Cuzner, home and /usr might be the culprits... can you reboot and check again  df -h and  df -i   ?
[19:04] <Cuzner> ioria: yea, i've found some rather large sql backup files, i'm trying to remove a couple of those first, then i'll reboot
[19:04] <ioria> Cuzner, ok
[19:05] <Cuzner> du -h --max-depth=1 is useful too :)
[19:05] <Cuzner> 4.2G    ./src
[19:05] <Cuzner> i don't need 4.2GB /usr/src, wtf
[19:05] <Cuzner> what's in here
[19:05] <Cuzner> aha! all the headers
[19:05] <Cuzner> can i just manually roach these?
[19:06] <Cuzner> i guess i shouldn't though, eh?  I should use autoremove to nuke them
[19:06] <Cuzner> but it won't run properly :P
[19:07] <ioria> Cuzner, probably the unmet deps problems you're having depends from a headers manual removing (just guessing)
[19:08] <Cuzner> ioria: could be, like i said, i've inherited this mess
[19:08] <ioria> Cuzner, by the way, current kernel/headers for trusty is -156, so 142 should have been removed long ago
[19:08] <Cuzner> i'm kind of just discovering how bad the situation is after the fact.
[19:12] <Cuzner> ioria: fwiw inodes 100% after reboot
[19:13] <ioria> Cuzner, did you remove some stuff ? and posting df -h and df -i might help
[19:14] <Cuzner> i foujnd some stuff to nuke, yeah, that aren't the kernel headers in /usr/src
[19:14] <Cuzner> i'm at 92%
[19:14] <Cuzner> :)
[19:15] <Cuzner> now i'll try the apt-get install -f && apt autoremove
[19:18] <Cuzner> apt-get autoremove rather
[19:18] <Cuzner> and it looks like it's working, thanks for your help ioria
[19:18] <ioria> Cuzner, good job
[19:19] <Rockwood> leftyfb, ty
[19:19] <Rockwood> !next
[19:33] <lotuspsychje> i would like to make tap to click more sensitive on bionic touchpad: https://hastebin.com/qezotiware.sql whats the command for it?
[19:36] <ioria> lotuspsychje, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad#Adjust_Touchpad_Sensitivity  not working ?
[19:36] <lotuspsychje> lets see ioria
[19:37] <Helenah> Hi
[19:37] <ErrantEgo5>                      _..._
[19:37] <ErrantEgo5>                   .-'     '-.
[19:37] <ErrantEgo5>                  /     _    _\
[19:37] <ErrantEgo5>                 /':.  (o)  /__)
[19:37] <Helenah> I'm looking to create my own Linux distro, because I got plenty of disagreements with all of em.
[19:37] <ErrantEgo5>                /':. .,_    |  |
[19:37] <ErrantEgo5>               |': ; /  \   /_/
[19:37] <lotuspsychje> i found that wiki ioria but not sure howto set the 3 numbers correctly?
[19:38] <lotuspsychje> ioria: "Synaptics Finger" 50 80 257
[19:40] <ioria> lotuspsychje, i guess you have to go to trial
[19:40] <Cuzner> ioria: /dev/xvda1     1310720 246466 1064254   19% /
[19:40] <Cuzner> :D
[19:40] <Cuzner> yay
[19:40] <lotuspsychje> ioria: ok
[19:40] <Cuzner> again, thanks for your help, i think i'm out of the woods
[19:40] <ioria> Cuzner, ok
[19:40] <Cuzner> it never occurred to me to check the inodes
[19:40] <Cuzner> so thank you for the cluebat
[19:46] <lotuspsychje> ioria: xinput --set-prop 13  "Synaptics Finger" 50 80 257
[19:46] <lotuspsychje> property 'Synaptics Finger' doesn't exist, you need to specify its type and format
[19:47] <lotuspsychje> ioria: there's no line synaptics finger in my xinput
[19:47] <ioria> lotuspsychje, you'r using libinput then ? no synaptics ?
[19:48] <lotuspsychje> ioria: not sure?
[19:48] <lotuspsychje> ioria: https://hastebin.com/qezotiware.sql
[19:49] <lotuspsychje> ioria:   ↳ SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad              	id=13	[slave  pointer  (2)]
[19:49] <ioria> lotuspsychje, lsmod|grep -iE "apple|cyapa|sermouse|synap|psmouse|vsxx|bcm"
[19:51] <lotuspsychje> ioria: nothing
[19:55] <ioria> lotuspsychje, yeah, the wiki is outdated
[19:56] <lotuspsychje> ioria: perhaps i need xserver-xorg-input-synaptics
[19:57] <lotuspsychje> ioria: reboot
[19:59] <lotuspsychje> ioria: ok now it shows finger
[20:05] <feedbackmoitor> Hi, I did a local apt get install of VLC and it is too buggy to run (because of my graphics driver). Where can I get a separate install of VLC media player? Not a repo one? I went to the official site and the ubuntu repo kicked in when I installed it. If I recall, there is another way to get VLC
[20:18] <ASMJunkie> Still having ethernet issues on Ubuntu 18.04 Is anyone able to help me
[20:25] <Greyman> hi
[20:25] <hfp> iptables doesn't come with a systemd unit file? What's the way to enable and disable it, create my own unit file or issuing a command (which one)?
[20:27] <hfp> To clarify, I understand iptables and I'd rather deal with it directly than using ufw or another frontend to it
[20:27] <ASMJunkie> Still having Ethernet issues on Ubuntu 18.04. Help would be awesome
[20:29] <Greyman> ASMJunkie what issues do you have?
[20:31] <ASMJunkie> My Lan connection is dropping every couple minutes
[20:32] <ASMJunkie> I think its the mother board drivers. The network works fine on windows, and I have the bios updated to the newest version
[20:32] <Nitrigaur> What audio player should I use for playing a 4-channel audio file and routing the first two channels to one output jack and the two other channels to another output jack? Ubuntu 18.04, using 7+1 AC'97 sound chip.
[20:33] <Nitrigaur> VLC does not recognize the file as being 4-channel btw, but I know it does contain 4 channels.
[20:33] <disi>                   ''=~(
[20:33] <disi>                '('     .((
[20:35] <hfp> Ah nevermind, it's a kernel module so it can't be started or stopped the way a service is
[20:36] <leftyfb> hfp: I create a post-up in /etc/network/interfaces calling iptables-restore. Maybe you want something similar for netplan
[20:37] <Greyman> ASMJunkie, can you send some details?
[20:37] <Nitrigaur> ASMJunkie, when querying the loaded modules using lsmod, do you see multiple ethernet device drivers loaded?
[20:38] <ASMJunkie> What would i need to look for
[20:38] <ASMJunkie> to see an ethernet driver
[20:38] <Nitrigaur> ASMJunkie, for starters, are you connecting to Wifi or a physical ethernet jack?
[20:39] <ASMJunkie> Ethernet port
[20:40] <Greyman> ifconfig
[20:40] <Greyman> then ifconfig -a
[20:40] <Greyman> does eth0 appear on both?
[20:41] <ASMJunkie> I have an asus b350f motherboard, and a  I211-AT ethernet adapter
[20:41] <ASMJunkie> I dont see etho0 on ifconfig
[20:42] <nacc> ASMJunkie: do you have internet connectivity now? pastebin the `ifconfig -a` output if so
[20:42] <Nitrigaur> ASMJunkie, it can be named differently, especially when you are using a modern version of Ubuntu with network manager.
[20:42] <Nitrigaur> ASMJunkie, "it" being the network interface.
[20:43] <hfp> leftyfb: I use iptables-persistent for that, thank you
[20:43] <ASMJunkie> Nacc, working on it
[20:44] <ASMJunkie_> https://hastebin.com/ocojeyobov.rb
[20:45] <nacc> yes 'enp3s0' is the wired interface
[20:45] <nacc> ASMJunkie: --^
[20:45] <nacc> ASMJunkie: when your connection drops, do you get any messages in syslog or dmesg?
[20:46] <ASMJunkie> I'll pull them up. It mainly drops with heavy traffie. i.e streaming video
[20:46] <ASMJunkie> traffic*
[20:48] <Nitrigaur> ASMJunkie_, OK, but does that disconnect show up in dmesg and if so, what does the message say?
[20:48] <Greyman> asmjunkie, this is for mining?
[20:48] <ASMJunkie> Like bitcoin mining?
[20:48] <Greyman> ya i googled the motherboard, it mentions mining
[20:49] <Greyman> what powersupply do you have for it?
[20:49] <ASMJunkie> Not mining. Only got it for the compile times with ryzen
[20:49] <Greyman> ah ok
[20:49] <ASMJunkie> Uhhh its an 800W
[20:49] <Greyman> ok np
[20:50] <ASMJunkie> It just droped
[20:50] <ASMJunkie> dropped*
[20:50] <ASMJunkie> what should i run to get the logs
[20:51] <Nitrigaur> ASMJunkie, dmesg | tail -50
[20:52] <Nitrigaur> Nitrigaur, or more specific: dmesg | grep enp3s0 | tail -50
[20:53] <ASMJunkie__> dmesg log -> https://hastebin.com/aqurivoyoq.sql
[20:54] <nacc> looks like the link went down and up
[20:54] <nacc> ASMJunkie: what version of ubuntu is this?
[20:54] <Nitrigaur> ASMJunkie, is your network card an USB dongle?\
[20:54] <ASMJunkie> No, its on the motherboard
[20:54] <ASMJunkie> 18
[20:55] <ASMJunkie> nacc: Ubuntu 18.04.1 LTS
[20:55] <nacc> ASMJunkie: ok
[20:56] <Nitrigaur> ASMJunkie, do you see any failure messages referring to your network card in your SELlinux audit log? /var/log/audit/audit.log
[20:57] <ASMJunkie> Nitrigaur: No such file or directory
[20:58] <nacc> Nitrigaur: .... ubuntu doesn't use selinux
[20:59] <Nitrigaur> ASMJunkie, my bad I mistook the apparmor profile message for a SELinux context, sorry for the confusion.
[21:00] <ASMJunkie> Haha, no problem. Got any more commands for me to run?
[21:00] <Greyman> does the board have another way of connecting?
[21:01] <Nitrigaur> ASMJunkie, not yet, but there is message in your dmesg that intrigues me:"igb 0000:03:00.0 enp3s0: Link Speed was downgraded by SmartSpeed"
[21:01] <ASMJunkie> Greyman: Only one lan port
[21:02] <Nitrigaur> ASMJunkie, are you connecting a Gigabit port to a 10/100Mbit port on a switch or router?
[21:04] <ASMJunkie> Nitrigaur: I am connected to my router directly and I have 100M up/down
[21:04] <ASMJunkie> Wait
[21:04] <Greyman> can i ask a really simple question
[21:04] <ASMJunkie> Yea
[21:05] <Greyman> how do you know its the network card
[21:05] <ASMJunkie> The network icon goes away at the top bar when ever i loose connection
[21:06] <nacc> Greyman: what are you asking, actually. Their internet connection goes link down/up periodically.
[21:06] <Greyman> have you proven your router and cable?
[21:06] <nacc> ah, I see
[21:06] <ASMJunkie> Greyman: Yea. Everything works perfectly on windows
[21:06] <Greyman> might sound simple but 99% of the time its the simple things
[21:06] <Greyman> ah ok
[21:08] <Nitrigaur> ASMJunkie, you might try to disable auto-negotiaton for the port on your router connected to your computer to see if that fixes things.
[21:08] <ASMJunkie> Yea i have absoulty no idea how to do that
[21:09] <ASMJunkie> absolutely*
[21:09] <ASMJunkie> Could it be the motherboard drivers? or the lan drivers?
[21:10] <Nitrigaur> ASMJunkie, that depends on your router. You might want to lookup the user manual for the router to see if there is such a setting. It could be a conflicting driver, or an immature one.
[21:12] <Greyman> Nitrigaur would it be easier to do this client side?
[21:12] <Nitrigaur> ASMJunkie, did you try streaming video on Windows saturating the link? If that works fine, it is most likely a driver issue.
[21:12] <ASMJunkie> Does the auto-negotiation typically vary between win and Ubuntu? wouldn't the negotiation data transaction limit be set off the hardware value and not change?
[21:14] <ASMJunkie> Nitrigaur: Yea I can run games and multiple videos at the same time without any disconnections
[21:14] <Greyman> asm- i just looked, best practice is to configure both sides the same
[21:15] <Greyman> maybe theyre not configured the same, maybe its no auto neg on client side
[21:15] <ASMJunkie> Greyman: I do not think it can be set on google fiber
[21:15] <Nitrigaur> ASMJunkie, ^ For that you need to access the port settings on your router
[21:15] <EnglishInfix> Hey folks. Does anyone remember what the upstart equivalent to the systemd "systemctl enable" command is for 14.04?
[21:16] <jje> sudo service enable   EnglishInfix
[21:16] <Nitrigaur> ASMJunkie, your router has two sides, a WAN and a LAN side. The WAN side is mostly locked down on a ISP delivered device, however it's rare that you cannot adjust any settings on the LAN side.
[21:16] <Greyman> ethtool eth0 (or your network card name)
[21:17] <Nitrigaur> ASMJunkie, enp3s0
[21:17] <Greyman> this will show your settings, maybe auto neg is off?
[21:17] <Nitrigaur> Greyman, good call!
[21:17] <Greyman> ethtool enp3s0
[21:17] <feedbackmoitor> Hi, I did a local apt get install of VLC and it is too buggy to run (because of my graphics driver). Where can I get a separate install of VLC media player? Not a repo one? I went to the official site and the ubuntu repo kicked in when I installed it. If I recall, there is another way to get VLC
[21:18] <ASMJunkie> Installing ethtool right now
[21:18] <Greyman> ty nit, how do i reply in irc, its been 20 years since i used it haha
[21:18] <EnglishInfix> @jje thanks
[21:19] <Nitrigaur> ASMJunkie, this is the line you are looking for in the output, it shows the current status: Auto-negotiation: on
[21:19] <jje> no problem
[21:19] <ASMJunkie__> https://hastebin.com/ujalesapul.sql
[21:19] <TBotNik> All: Having trouble installing a Brother MFC 7360N Printer.  Write up at: https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?p=5894117#post5894117
[21:19] <TBotNik> All: Any ideas why the install script is failing?  Gives no errors!
[21:19] <Greyman> who is ASMJunkie__ ?
[21:20] <Nitrigaur> ASMJunkie, so Auto-neg. is on...
[21:20] <Nitrigaur> Greyman, probably another session running in the browser
[21:20] <ASMJunkie> Thats my desktop (the one with the network problems)
[21:20] <Nitrigaur> or a duplicate channel
[21:21] <Nitrigaur> ASMJunkie, that explains things nicely :-)
[21:21] <cpama> hi all
[21:21] <cpama> not sure if this is the right forum.  but ... i'm running ubuntu on windows.  just recently attempted to upgrade my ubuntu.  it seems to have broken ssh forwarding 'stuff'
[21:22] <cpama> i followed the steps found here:
[21:22] <cpama> https://github.com/Microsoft/WSL/issues/3183
[21:22] <cpama> no errors...
[21:22] <cpama> but i'm still having issues because when i try to submit to a git repo we have.. i keep getting prompted for my password.
[21:23] <cpama> and it never authenticates me
[21:23] <Nitrigaur> cpama, so if I understand you correctly you are running Ubuntu on Win10 using the Linux Layer?
[21:23] <cpama> yes Nitrigaur
[21:23] <Nitrigaur> cpama, maybe the connection requires a SSH2-keypair?
[21:24] <TBotNik> All: I'm wondering? Seems only the scanner has amd64 versions, which my machine is, and all the rest are i386, could this be where the disconnect is?
[21:24] <cpama> so previousy i set up my key in /root/.ssh/id_rsa Nitrigaur and it seems to be intact
[21:25] <cpama> unfortunately i'm also not a good sys admin...
[21:25] <Nitrigaur> cpama, did you load it explicitly, or are you using ssh-agent?
[21:25] <cpama> Nitrigaur: in my /root/.bashrc
[21:26] <cpama> I have the following
[21:26] <Nitrigaur> cpama, please be careful sharing sensitive info!
[21:26] <cpama> yes i won't
[21:26] <cpama> i'm just gonna share the funcation names
[21:26] <cpama> *function names
[21:26] <cpama> but basically I have logic there to start ssh agent
[21:26] <Greyman> did asmjunkie get sorted?
[21:27] <ASMJunkie> Nope
[21:27] <cpama> i know at one point, i had to associate "root" with my windows user name
[21:27] <Nitrigaur> ASMJunkie, try setting the speed to 100M and autonegotiate to off.
[21:27] <ASMJunkie> I cant find any asus drivers for my motherboard
[21:28] <Greyman>  /etc/init.d/network restart
[21:28] <Nitrigaur> cpama, are you using pam-winbind for authentication?
[21:28] <cpama> Nitrigaur: no
[21:29] <ASMJunkie> Nitrigaur:  How do i do that?
[21:29] <Nitrigaur> cpama, you might want to try opening an ssh-connection using the -vv parameter, which can be quite useful for debugging these issues. Mind you that the literal output of that command should not be shared on this channel.
[21:29] <Greyman> asmjunkie try ethtool --help
[21:30] <cpama> k will try
[21:30] <Nitrigaur> ASMJunkie, you might want to lookup the default settings for the LAN ports on your Google fibre box. That might save you some guessing.
[21:31] <Nitrigaur> guessing -> guesswork ^
[21:31] <Greyman> ASMJunkie, order an alphanetwork wifi adapter and be done with it ;)
[21:31] <ASMJunkie> Nitrigaur: /etc/init.d/network restart does not exist?
[21:32] <ikonia> what is the chipset of the network card please
[21:33] <ASMJunkie> Areyou talking to me ikonia?
[21:33] <Nitrigaur> ASMJunkie, are you using NetworkManager (network service)_ or the networking service?
[21:33] <ikonia> ASMJunkie: yes please
[21:33] <Nitrigaur> ASMJunkie, try lspci| grep -i eth
[21:34] <ASMJunkie> chipset is intel i211
[21:34] <ikonia> ASMJunkie: and what version of ubuntu are you running please.
[21:34] <ASMJunkie> 18.04.01
[21:34] <ikonia> ASMJunkie: so that card should be fully supported with the standard kernel from 18.04.01
[21:35] <ikonia> ASMJunkie: are you able to reproduce the problem you see on demand ?
[21:35] <ASMJunkie> Yea
[21:35] <ikonia> ASMJunkie: great, are you using network manager to configure the interface ?
[21:35] <ASMJunkie> I have no idea
[21:35] <ASMJunkie> Is that the default?
[21:35] <ikonia> ASMJunkie: are you just plugging in the cable and it's sorting itself out ?
[21:35] <ASMJunkie> ikonia: Yea
[21:36] <ikonia> ASMJunkie: ok, so that's network manager
[21:36] <ikonia> ASMJunkie: do you know what the device identifier is in ubuntu, eg: eth1, enps0501 etc
[21:36] <ASMJunkie> enp3s0
[21:36] <ikonia> ASMJunkie: fantastic
[21:37] <ikonia> so as a quick test can you do "grep enp3s0 /var/log/syslog" and put the output in a pastebin please
[21:37] <ASMJunkie> Should i crash it then log?
[21:37] <ikonia> no
[21:37] <ikonia> please run the command I gave you and put the output in a pastebin
[21:37] <ASMJunkie> On it
[21:38] <Nitrigaur> ASMJunkie, you are in luck, ikonia is a proper veteran on this channel :-)
[21:39] <Nitrigaur> cpama, that association of root with your Windows username seems to be WSL specific.
[21:40] <ASMJunkie> Well maybe once we fix my desktop we can give my laptop a go
[21:40] <Nitrigaur> ASMJunkie, just a tip, you can pipe the output of a terminal command to pastebinit to save you the trouble of pasting it manually to a pastebin website.
[21:41] <ASMJunkie> Here is the log https://hastebin.com/wohazikica.nginx
[21:42] <ikonia> ASMJunkie: fantastic, that's really useful
[21:42] <ikonia> ASMJunkie: can you please open two terminal windows
[21:42] <ASMJunkie> Yup
[21:43] <ikonia> ASMJunkie: ok, so I can see a few problems in your log of interest, I'd suggest clearing them up, but I'd like to understand the output when you see an error
[21:43] <ikonia> in one terminal can you please run "sudo tail -f /var/log/syslog | grep  https://hastebin.com/wohazikica.nginx
[21:43] <ikonia> oops
[21:43] <ikonia> sorry
[21:43] <ikonia> ASMJunkie: in one terminal can you please run "sudo tail -f /var/log/syslog | grep enp3s0"
[21:43] <Nitrigaur> hehe
[21:44] <ikonia> ASMJunkie: once you've run that command, could you please do whatever network work you do to make it "crash"
[21:44] <ikonia> when it crashes watch the window you run tail in and paste the output you get
[21:44] <ikonia> (in a pastebin pleasE)
[21:44] <ASMJunkie> Ok
[21:45] <Nitrigaur> cpama, did you notice anything interesting in that verbose output of your ssh connection attempt?
[21:45] <ubba> does 18.04 currently have the ability to override dhcp supplied DNS servers
[21:46] <ubba> because I've used netplan and resolv.conf and I can't do it
[21:46] <ikonia> ubba: yes, every distribution has that
[21:46] <ikonia> resolv.conf should not be touched manually in a desktop install
[21:47] <pablo_cba> sercver irc.chatzona.org
[21:47] <ASMJunkie> pastebin.com/NxSgU86u
[21:47] <ubba> so, how should I do it?
[21:47] <ASMJunkie> Did i do it right?
[21:48] <Nitrigaur> ASMJunkie, yes, that is useful info.
[21:48] <ikonia> ASMJunkie: super useful
[21:48] <ikonia> ASMJunkie: so the first problem I thought you had is not causing the problem
[21:48] <ikonia> ASMJunkie: we need to clear up some noise too - just to remove any conflict
[21:49] <Greyman> ikonia sounds like hes done this before :D
[21:49] <ikonia> it appears you are getting an IPV6 address from a dhcp server somewhere as well as a dhcp 4 address
[21:49] <ikonia> ASMJunkie: is this your home network ?
[21:49] <ASMJunkie> Yea
[21:49] <ikonia> (sorry if I'm missing context)
[21:49] <ikonia> ASMJunkie: do you run your home network ?
[21:49] <ASMJunkie> Not really
[21:50] <ikonia> ASMJunkie: are you confident your home network does not actually use IPV6 for anything ?
[21:50] <ASMJunkie> Yea i am pretty confident nothing uses IPv6
[21:51] <ubba> how should I override my dhcp assigned DNS?
[21:51] <ubba> on ubuntu 18.04
[21:51] <ikonia> ASMJunkie: ok, so lets disable ipv6 in network manager
[21:51] <Nitrigaur> ASMJunkie, than please disable Ipv6 support for that interface. nmtui provides a user-friendly interface for that.
[21:51] <ikonia> ASMJunkie: do you know where the network maaer gui is
[21:51] <ikonia> ASMJunkie: (I dont think this is your core problem - but it is noise and can contribute to problems, so lets remove doubt if you don't need it)
[21:52] <ASMJunkie> If it not in settings, i dont know where it is
[21:52] <ASMJunkie> O its in settings
[21:52] <ASMJunkie> got it
[21:52] <ikonia> ASMJunkie: great, so you can see how to disable IPV6
[21:52] <ASMJunkie> Yea its all ready to be turned off
[21:53] <ikonia> (sorry I don't have an 18.04 desktop in front of me so can't give you click by click instructions)
[21:53] <ikonia> ASMJunkie: so is it now set to "disabled"
[21:53] <Nitrigaur> ikonia, I do.
[21:53] <Ntemis> hello
[21:53] <ASMJunkie> Yup
[21:53] <Nitrigaur> ASMJunkie, splendid
[21:53] <ikonia> Nitrigaur: can you walk him through it click by click to confirm please.
[21:53] <Ntemis> ikonia: am back on mate fully working :)
[21:53] <Nitrigaur> ikonia, sure
[21:53] <Greyman> ikonia is a linux beast
[21:53] <ASMJunkie> IPv6 is off
[21:54] <ikonia> Nitrigaur: thank you, sorry, I don't have a desktop here to confirm, so the confirmation is appreciated
[21:54] <Ntemis> i bring out the beast
[21:54] <Nitrigaur> ikonia, no worries, glad to help
[21:54] <Greyman> bed time for me, that was fun to watch
[21:55] <Nitrigaur> ASMJunkie, Please click on the rightmost arrow pointing down on the top bar of your screen.
[21:55] <ASMJunkie> Nitrigaur: Its already disabled
[21:55] <ikonia> ASMJunkie: can you confirm in network manager as Nitrigaur says too
[21:55] <ikonia> ASMJunkie: network manager is the thing that matters here
[21:55] <ASMJunkie> Sure
[21:56] <Nitrigaur> ASMJunkie, You will see an icon of three computers in a network next to your connection name. Please click it
[21:56] <ASMJunkie> Ok
[21:56] <Nitrigaur> ASMJunkie, from there please select Wired settings
[21:57] <ASMJunkie> Done
[21:57] <Nitrigaur> Do you see anything on that screen relating to IPv6?
[21:57] <ASMJunkie> Yea there is a tab called IPv^
[21:57] <ASMJunkie> IPv6
[21:57] <Nitrigaur> ASMJunkie, So, what does it say?
[21:58] <ASMJunkie> IPv6 Method, Automatic, Link-local, Automatic DHCP, Manual, Disable. Disable is checked
[21:58] <Nitrigaur> ASMJunkie, great!
[21:59] <ikonia> fantastic
[21:59] <ikonia> thank you Nitrigaur
[21:59] <ikonia> ASMJunkie: so can you please now reboot
[21:59] <Nitrigaur> ikonia, you are most welcome.
[21:59] <ikonia> ASMJunkie: lets make sure all ipv6 services are refreshed in a disabled state
[22:00] <Nitrigaur> Greyman, sweet dreams!
[22:00] <Nitrigaur> Hmm, already left, oh well.
[22:01] <ASMJunkie> ikonia, how do i check to see if it is refreshed
[22:02] <Nitrigaur> ASMJunkie, just repeat the process I walked you through and look if the IPv6 still says: Disabled
[22:02] <ikonia> ASMJunkie: have you rebooted ?
[22:02] <ASMJunkie> yea
[22:02] <ikonia> ASMJunkie: then you should be fine
[22:02] <ASMJunkie> IPv6 is still off after reboot
[22:03] <ikonia> so, can you once again please open a terminal, run 'sudo tail -f /var/log/syslog | grep reason enp30 (whatever your interface was called"
[22:03] <ikonia> en3p0 ?
[22:04] <ikonia> sudo tail -f /var/log/syslog | grep enp3s0
[22:04] <ASMJunkie> enp3s0 :P
[22:04] <ikonia> there you go
[22:04] <ASMJunkie> you have it memorized after the 30th time
[22:04] <Nitrigaur> ASMJunkie, hehe
[22:04] <ikonia> ASMJunkie: now make it fail again and once again pastebin the output of that terminal
[22:04] <ikonia> I'm expecting to see a carrier-loss again
[22:05] <ikonia> but a lot fewer lines
[22:07] <ASMJunkie> pastebin.com/8KM7fsWj looks about the same to me
[22:07] <Minkar>                .[22:08] <ikonia> ASMJunkie: so that is interesting, it's still referening ipv6
[22:08] <ASMJunkie> I am crashing it by loading two youtube videos. That seems to do it
[22:08] <ASMJunkie> Could that be it?
[22:09] <ikonia> no
[22:09] <ikonia> you've disabled ipv6, yet it's still referencing it
[22:09] <ikonia> and 2 youtube videos should not cause a reset on your card's connection
[22:09] <Nitrigaur> ASMJunkie, no, the dhcp-client toggles between IPv4 and IPv6 addresses.
[22:09] <ikonia> the ipv6 still is unusual, but I don't think that's your problem, I think thats more a symptom
[22:10] <ikonia> if you look at that log output, I don't actually think this is a problem with ubuntu/your network card
[22:10] <ASMJunkie> Should i download wireshark to check the packet sizes?
[22:10] <ikonia> I suspect that this is a problem with your home network, that's causing the reset on your switch, which makes your network card "flap"
[22:10] <ikonia> ASMJunkie: I don't think this is an MTU problem at this state
[22:10] <ikonia> mtu problems have different symptoms
[22:11] <ASMJunkie> My home-network? It literally has not done this for any of my other devicees
[22:11] <ikonia> ASMJunkie: I appreciate that,
[22:12] <ikonia> ASMJunkie: lets be a bit more agressive (you'll have to check my work here as I'm not on an 18.04 host)
[22:12] <ikonia> if you open /etc/sysctl.conf
[22:12] <ikonia> can you paste the following lines into the bottom
[22:12] <ikonia> et.ipv6.conf.all.disable_ipv6 = 1
[22:12] <ikonia> net.ipv6.conf.default.disable_ipv6 = 1
[22:12] <ikonia> net.ipv6.conf.lo.disable_ipv6 = 1
[22:12] <Nitrigaur> ikonia, even the lo?
[22:12] <ikonia> Nitrigaur: the lo ?
[22:12] <Nitrigaur> ikonia, the loopback device.
[22:13] <ikonia> Nitrigaur: what about it (sorry if I missing the point)
[22:13] <ASMJunkie> idk if you saw the message, but i use windows on  the machine and have no problems
[22:13] <Nitrigaur> ikonia, never mind.
[22:13] <ikonia> ASMJunkie: thats ok - cards behave different on different OS's
[22:13] <ikonia> Nitrigaur: open to suggestions if I've missed something
[22:14] <Nitrigaur> ASMJunkie, are you perhaps using a local domain controller?
[22:14] <Nitrigaur> ASMJunkie, that is is Windows server (even one running as virtual machine might qualify)
[22:14] <ASMJunkie> No
[22:14] <ASMJunkie> :/
[22:15] <ikonia> ASMJunkie: can you put the lines I gave you in /etc/sysctl.conf please
[22:15] <ikonia> (note the typo in the first line should read net
[22:15] <Nitrigaur> ASMJunkie, not running a Windows DC is actually good, since it would cause a lot more noise.
[22:15] <Nitrigaur> In this case, that is.
[22:16] <ikonia> Nitrigaur: ahhh I see what you where referencing now with lo
[22:16] <Nitrigaur> ikonia, it's a minor detail and not relevant to the case at hand.
[22:16] <ikonia> Nitrigaur: no, I see why you questioned it
[22:17] <ikonia> Nitrigaur: I said to do it "yes" to make sure that the ubuntu box itself wasn't offering any comms on ipv6 via the loopback
[22:17] <ikonia> Nitrigaur: I get why you questioned it now
[22:17] <Nitrigaur> ikonia, I understand
[22:17] <ASMJunkie> How do i write to the file?
[22:17] <ikonia> Nitrigaur: to be fair it shouldn't be needed with the other lines, but as it's behaving a little different, I'm being a bit harsh
[22:17] <Nitrigaur> ASMJunkie, using sudo
[22:17] <ASMJunkie> Ok i got it
[22:17] <ASMJunkie> had sudo after the gedit
[22:18] <Nitrigaur> ASMJunkie, better to use gksudo for x-windows apps.
[22:18] <ASMJunkie> x-windows?
[22:19] <Nitrigaur> ASMJunkie, but never mind, it won't cause havoc in this case. Please continue.
[22:19] <ASMJunkie> ikonia: Added the lines. Should i reboot?
[22:19] <ikonia> ASMJunkie: yes please
[22:22] <ASMJunkie_> Rebooted. Log, crash, and pastebin?
[22:22] <Nitrigaur> ASMJunkie_, yes please.
[22:22] <ikonia> you know the drill
[22:24] <ASMJunkie_> pastebin.com/idD4gt59
[22:24] <ASMJunkie_> No ipv6
[22:24] <ASMJunkie_> :D
[22:24] <Nitrigaur> ASMJunkie, X-Windows is a graphical logical representation of your graphical desktop. It is phasing out to Wayland right now. But never mind, that is not really relevant to the issue you are facing. It's only relevant for the difference between sudo and gksudo.
[22:25] <ikonia> ASMJunkie_: that looks better, cleaner and removes a little confusion
[22:26] <ASMJunkie_> this may sound crazy, but could it be the motherboard?
[22:26] <Nitrigaur> ASMJunkie_, no, that would also cause problems under Windows
[22:27] <ikonia> ASMJunkie_: no, I really don't think it is anything local to your computer
[22:27] <ikonia> ASMJunkie_: I'm just walking the error now it's clean
[22:28] <ikonia> ASMJunkie_: so that card is %100 getting reset because hte other end of the cable went away
[22:28] <ASMJunkie> Asus did not have any motherboard drivers for Ubuntu on their website
[22:28] <ikonia> that card is not resetting because "the card has a problem"
[22:28] <ikonia> ASMJunkie_: that's good - the drivers in the kernel are provided by intel - they know that card better than asus
[22:29] <ikonia> ASMJunkie_: can you boot into windows ?
[22:29] <ASMJunkie> Yea
[22:29] <Nitrigaur> ikonia, so why does that not occur if ASMJunkie runs Windows on that box?
[22:29] <ikonia> Nitrigaur: lets find out
[22:29] <ikonia> ASMJunkie_: can you confirm the speed and duplex when you boot into windows ?
[22:30] <ASMJunkie> Sure
[22:30] <Nitrigaur> ASMJunkie, ikonia, I can only stay for one half hour, since it's bedtime here and I need to rise early.
[22:30] <ASMJunkie> I've been using windows for about 8.5 months now and have not had much issues after got it set up
[22:31] <ikonia> Nitrigaur: your help has been very much appreciated
[22:31] <Nitrigaur> ikonia, as always glad to be of help. I wouldn't do this if I did not enjoy it as well.
[22:32] <Nitrigaur> ASMJunkie, what does the output of ipconfig -a yield on your Windows box?
[22:33] <Nitrigaur> ASMJunkie, if it's a modern version of Windows, you might need to open an administrator cmd to show you everything.
[22:33] <ASMJunkie> Yea its loading right now
[22:34] <ozeran> bonne nuit.
[22:35] <Nitrigaur> !fr | ozeran
[22:36] <ASMJunkie> pastebin.com/6c1PVVP4
[22:37] <ASMJunkie> Speed: pastebin.com/LCywD3LA
[22:39] <ASMJunkie> Did i lag out?
[22:39] <ASMJunkie> Nope
[22:39] <Nitrigaur> ASMJunkie, not that I'm aware of.
[22:39] <dave2592> Hi guys, I just did a dist upgrade on my server from 16.04 to 18.04. Now cURL is not working for Apache2.... after the dist upgrade, I have php 7.0 being used by the web server and php 7.2 being used by the CLI.... but 'apt-get install php7.0-curl' says there is no install candidate..... is curl available from another source for php 7.0? or can i configure apache2 to use php 7.2 rather than php 7.0?
[22:40] <ikonia> ASMJunkie: so there is an interesting problem
[22:40] <ikonia> ASMJunkie: your windows host is negotiating at 1GB, your linux host is negotiating at 100mb
[22:40] <Nitrigaur> ASMJunkie, looks like 100Mbit to me, but what a contrived way of displaying that speed.
[22:40] <ikonia> Nitrigaur: that shows as 1gb to me
[22:41] <ikonia> Nitrigaur: is my maths off ?
[22:41] <ikonia> ASMJunkie: lets confirm https://winaero.com/blog/see-the-ethernet-or-wifi-adapter-speed-in-windows-10/
[22:42] <Nitrigaur> ikonia, not your math, but 100 000 000 seems to be 100Mbit when expressed in bit/s
[22:42] <ikonia> Nitrigaur: I counted more 0's
[22:42] <ikonia> so my maths was off
[22:42] <Nitrigaur> ikonia, so I figured :-)
[22:42] <ASMJunkie> 100.00 Mbps
[22:42] <Nitrigaur> Nitrigaur, it's a matter of math, rather that of readability
[22:43] <Nitrigaur> Nitrigaur, it's *not* a matter of math, rather that of readability
[22:43] <ikonia> perfet, so that's a good sign
[22:43] <ikonia> so the config mirrors on both OS's
[22:44] <Nitrigaur> ASMJunkie, ikonia, indeed, but autoconfiguration does not equal Auto-negotiation
[22:44] <ikonia> Nitrigaur: but it's consistent
[22:44] <ikonia> it's not like linux was negotiating down
[22:44] <Nitrigaur> ikonia, aye
[22:45] <ASMJunkie> Should i boot up ubuntu now
[22:45] <ikonia> ASMJunkie: other than the youtube link, is there any other way you can get it to fail in linux
[22:45] <Nitrigaur> ASMJunkie, not yet
[22:45] <Nitrigaur> ASMJunkie, can you check the autonegotiation settings for that link in the Hardware overview?
[22:46] <ASMJunkie> ikonia, netflix also works
[22:46] <ikonia> ASMJunkie: so both video related
[22:46] <ikonia> ASMJunkie: what about say downloading a huge file like an ISO image
[22:46] <ikonia> does that cause it to happen ?
[22:46] <ASMJunkie> Yea that does
[22:46] <Nitrigaur> ikonia, that should saturate the link, provided the server on the other end has enough bandwidth
[22:47] <ASMJunkie> I was installing nvidia drivers yesterday and it closed a couple times
[22:47] <ASMJunkie> and had to reestart
[22:47] <ikonia> Nitrigaur: I don't thin it's saturating the link, I'm trying to work out if it's the data type not being handled on the client end, or if the switch is actually resetting the port as the error message suggests
[22:48] <ikonia> ASMJunkie: so that's practically no workload for a network - the nvidia package is tiny
[22:48] <ASMJunkie> It was a large download. Took me awhile
[22:48] <Nitrigaur> ikonia, I agree, but if the link was saturated when on Linux, it is good to have a comparable situation on the Windows box.
[22:48] <ikonia> Nitrigaur: totally
[22:49] <Nitrigaur> ASMJunkie, what I did notice is that your main router also seems to serve WINS as protocol, which is a Windows alternative to DNS.
[22:50] <ikonia> Nitrigaur: I wondered why it's subscribing to multi-cast dns
[22:50] <ikonia> but that's not uncommon with cheap routes that forward dns packets
[22:51] <Nitrigaur> ASMJunkie, I wonder if the DNS stack is sane on the router LAN side when compared to the WINS side.
[22:51] <ikonia> I shall return shortly, I need to step away
[22:51] <ASMJunkie> ok
[22:52] <Nitrigaur> I will go to bed shortly, in 10 minutes to be precise. If I don't see you again tonight, nice having you ikonia
[22:53] <Nitrigaur> ASMJunkie, could you please check to see the priority set for WINS when compared to DNS on the LAN side of your router?
[22:53] <Nitrigaur> ASMJunkie, you should be able to access the web interface at 192.168.1.1
[22:54] <ASMJunkie> Google fiber's default gateway is dumb
[22:54] <ASMJunkie> Its through the web
[22:55] <ASMJunkie> You sign into with your email, not a username and password
[22:55] <Nitrigaur> ASMJunkie, the gateway functions as a bridge, using different VLANs to differentiate between WAN and LAN side traffic.
[22:56] <ASMJunkie> When i said default gateway, I am talking about 192.168.1.1
[22:56] <Nitrigaur> ASMJunkie, me too.
[22:57] <Nitrigaur> ASMJunkie, so if I understand you correctly, you cannot access your local fiber bridge on your LAN at 192.168.1.1?
[22:57] <ASMJunkie> I have Ubuntu set up on my laptop. The touch-pad does not work, but i can use the web just fine with an external mouse and I have no disconnection issues
[22:57] <ASMJunkie> Nitrigaur: Yup
[22:57] <ASMJunkie> Its stupid
[22:58] <ASMJunkie> I can barely open up a port, much less check the things your asking
[22:58] <Nitrigaur> ASMJunkie, so it's all locked down, even on the LAN side... That complicates matters...
[22:59] <ASMJunkie> I am really positive it has nothing to do with my network. Its so straightforward its impossible to mess up
[22:59] <Nitrigaur> ASMJunkie, are you sure there is no alternative port for the web interface, such as 8080 or simply by prefixing it with https?
[23:01] <ASMJunkie> I cant find another way online
[23:01] <Nitrigaur> ASMJunkie, I am not criticizing you, rest assured :-)
[23:02] <ASMJunkie> I understand. Thanks for the help also
[23:02] <ASMJunkie> You heading out Nitrigaur?
[23:02] <Nitrigaur> ASMJunkie, there is one thing you might want to try to rule out the WINS/DNS dichotomy: you can temporarily disable the WINS service within Windows and try to reconnect
[23:03] <Nitrigaur> ASMJunkie, if your connection stability detoriates after that, you might have the culprit.
[23:04] <Nitrigaur> ASMJunkie, you are welcome. I am not heading out, unless you count Never Never Land as "out" ;-)
[23:04] <feedbackmoitor> Hi, I did a local apt get install of VLC and it is too buggy to run (because of my graphics driver). Where can I get a separate install of VLC media player? Not a repo one? I went to the official site and the ubuntu repo kicked in when I installed it. If I recall, there is another way to get VLC
[23:06] <Nitrigaur> ASMJunkie, I hope that ikonia will be able to help you once (s)he gets back and I hope that the WINS service is a red herring here.
[23:06] <mandje> is there a tool to get information on your lan?  like all attatched devices and their ip's?
[23:07] <Nitrigaur> mandje, yes, that would be netmap. Be sure you are using it ONLY on LAN though.
[23:08] <mandje> thxx Nitrigaur
[23:08] <Nitrigaur> ASMJunkie, I'm hitting the hay now. Nice talking to you and I hope you will eventually be able to solve the issue.
[23:09] <Nitrigaur> mandje, you are welcome.
[23:10] <mandje> i assigned a Zyxel router to work as IP. like to know it's IP (i assume it get's one from the dhcp Airport Extreme)
[23:10] <mandje> * work as AP
[23:14] <Copenhagen_Bram> hello
[23:14] <Copenhagen_Bram> so uh, i've got a problem :/
[23:14] <nacc> Copenhagen_Bram: please describe it in one line
[23:14] <troikaroida> Copengagen_Bram: Just post the question you have. If you're here you obviously have a problem, no need to tell us.
[23:14] <Copenhagen_Bram> alright guys i'm typing my problem lol
[23:16] <zippo^> Which version of Ubuntu do you like the best? I like Ubuntu 10.04 LTS the best . Since Unity was coming, there is so terrible
[23:16]  * zippo^ misses Ubuntu 10.04 LTS
[23:16] <nacc> zippo^: offtopic for this channel.
[23:16] <Copenhagen_Bram> So I'm on xubuntu (which was originally ubuntu but then i installed lubuntu-desktop, then xubuntu-desktop, then did my best to remove ubuntu and lubuntu but i still get a lubuntu logo when it's booting up) and when I close my lid, then open it, the screen locks and it asks for a password. When I type the password, the screen goes blank.
[23:16] <zippo^> oh sorry
[23:16] <Copenhagen_Bram> nacc: hmm which channel do i go for offtopic ubuntu chitchat?
[23:17] <Copenhagen_Bram> or we, me and zippo^
[23:17] <zippo^> #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:17] <troikaroida> Copenhagen_Bram: it's highly illadvised to install so many DEs over top of each other. It tends to break things, as you've found out.
[23:17] <Copenhagen_Bram> troikaroida: great, so where can I find a DE switcher?
[23:18] <troikaroida> Copenhagen_Bram: There may be such a thing but I'm not personally aware of any. You might have to reinstall in the distribution with the DE you want as troubleshooting it may be more trouble than it's worth.
[23:18] <Copenhagen_Bram> hmm maybe it's time i switch to debian
[23:19] <Aaron> Copenhagen_Bram, if you like
[23:19] <Aaron> change to Freebsd xD
[23:19] <Aaron> better
[23:19] <troikaroida> Install gentoo from a stage1 tarball
[23:19] <Aaron> gentoo sucks sorry to say it
[23:20] <leftyfb> Aaron: please stay on topic
[23:20] <troikaroida> Aaron: how dare you
[23:20] <Copenhagen_Bram> wait wot
[23:20] <leftyfb> !ot
[23:20] <Aaron> lol xD
[23:20] <hggdh> folks, back to topic, please
[23:20] <leftyfb> Copenhagen_Bram: which version of ubuntu?
[23:20] <Copenhagen_Bram> 18.04
[23:21] <Copenhagen_Bram> bionic bleep bloop
[23:21] <leftyfb> Copenhagen_Bram: you can switch DE's at the graphical login screen
[23:22] <Copenhagen_Bram> ok ._.
[23:22] <leftyfb> there's a little icon, maybe a gear that you click to select your DE
[23:29] <rangemonger> how would i stub a pci device without blacklisting its driver?
[23:29] <dc-> Hi, just did a fresh Ubuntu Desktop 18.04 install on a machine and was wondering what is the directory /sys/fs/cgroup/unified/user.slice/? I stumbled upon it when scanning for user-writeable files, was wondering if it's something that's fine to be writable by user?
[23:30] <rangemonger> i have 2 nvidias and i need one to not load,  it prevents the os from booting with iommu on
[23:43] <JoshS> I have a server running Ubuntu 16 inside of a VMWare instance on windows.  It hosts a website that it was supposed to be redirecting. We found the server had rebooted ..  Is there a log that keeps periodic timestamps that I could read to see how long it's been down?
[23:46] <coz_> hey guys