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IrcsomeBot<acheronuk> There is no pulseaudio 12 in 18.0400:19
IrcsomeBot<acheronuk> plasma-pa originally used gconf due to: https://cgit.kde.org/plasma-pa.git/commit/?h=Plasma/5.13&id=677775b7db387b0d019f1a62dfcea86159a51f4000:19
IrcsomeBot<acheronuk> which is now optional in latest plasma: https://cgit.kde.org/plasma-pa.git/commit/?id=c9fae1fb3f8e8a820fd480ce227d7fabf87bd04500:20
OvermindDL1Well somehow he got it, and he was not using staging or anything01:18
OvermindDL1Managed to fix it by parsing the apt log to get old version and downgrading to those, but of a pain but it fixed it all01:18
OvermindDL1Bit of*01:19
OvermindDL1So it was added to just keep from needing to serialize out some settings to restore modules, bleh, what an ancient dependency to just do that01:20
sm222Hey, quick question. Fresh install and snap packages don't show up in krunner / the menu. Is there a workaround for this minus creating menu entries for these apps?01:44
sm222weird after restarting it shows up01:55
sm222Ohh, I think it cause i changed my shell back to bash01:55
MandorHi!  I'm running kubuntu 18.04 on a laptop, upgraded from older versions.  I've recently noticed that the little network icon has turned red.06:40
MandorThe wireless NIC works and connects to my main wifi essid.  But if I click on the little icon, it doesn't show me a list of detected essids like it used to.06:41
MandorI do have the options to disable wireless altogether, to go into airplane mode, or to configure the wireless LANs.06:42
MandorBut I can't actually select which one should be current.06:42
MandorIf I run "iwlist wlan0 scanning", I see a bunch of wireless essids detected.  So it's all working at a low level.  There just seems to be something wrong with the kubuntu applet foo.06:43
MandorOr maybe an intermediate layer.  If I try nm-applet, I get equivalent behavior.06:43
MandorSo something weird is going on.  I know the relatively low levels of the network stack, but I suspect something is broken in some configuration layer that I am not familiar with.06:44
MandorAny clues?06:44
hateballMandor: if you untick "connect automatically" you should be able to click and connect on the desired network07:02
hateballwell you should be able to click connect as you like, but if you're jumping between SSIDs it might reconnect to a different one, was my thought07:02
Mandorhateball: tried it.  No joy.07:03
MandorIn particular, unticking connect automatically from an SSID, saving, and restarting the network still reconnects automatically to the first ssid.  And I still don't get a list of SSIDs.07:04
diogenes_Mandor, what if you remove all the saved connections and try again to connect but this time untick that07:05
Mandordiogenes_: good idea.  Oddly, the SSID came back.07:12
MandorAlthough DHCP didn't automatically come back.  I had to reconfigure IP, etc. manually.07:15
diogenes_Mandor, maybe after removing them you needed a systemctl restart NetworkManager07:16
MandorThanks, I already did that.07:16
MandorNo joy.07:17
MandorOh, wow.07:19
MandorI found at least two things that it might be: 1. /etc/network/interfaces has an auto stanza for wlan0.07:19
Mandor2. locate on my essid finds some stuff in /etc/NetworkManager.  Although I think that's just stale locatedb entries.07:21
MandorI did ifdown -a, commented out the entry from /etc/network/interfaces, did an ifup -a, and restarted NetworkManager.  No joy.07:26
diogenes_Mandor, what if you try to create a new test user and try there?07:26
Mandordiogenes_: good idea.  I think I'll rebooting, first, just in case something got left in a weird state from having an entry in /etc/network/interfaces.07:27
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Mandor(Thank goodness for screen+cloud servers, or you would see me bouncing up and down in IRC every time I messed with one of these things.)07:28
diogenes_:)07:28
acheronukdo networks show when you scan for available ones on the command line?07:28
MandorYup, iwlist wlan0 scan shows all the usual networks that I should see.07:28
acheronukand 'nmcli device wifi list' ?07:32
acheronukmaybe after 'nmcli device wifi rescan' if nothing shows07:34
MandorBack.  Yup, it was the /etc/network/interfaces file.  Rebooting cleaed the bad state.  Not sure why I had that in place, but probably something I did and forgot about.  Sorry for wasting your collective time!07:38
acheronukunless plasma-pa widget has gone complete fritzo, it should just report what network-manager thinks is there07:38
acheronukMandor: ah. ok. no problem :)07:39
Kon-There's a pulse audio update for 18.04 and Discover wants to remove plasma-pa and the gconf module as part of the update process08:49
Kon-This seems like it's not working as intended. How am I going to control levels without plasma-pa? And pulseaudio-module-gconf is used by all kinds of things08:50
eeoshi everybody. I am looking for a microblogging client that allows me to post brief messages on twitter, linkedin, researchgate and facebook at the same time .... anyone who know about one?08:53
acheronukKon-: last pulseaudio update in 18.04 was back on 4th July, and did not obsolete the gconf module. do you have a ppa where someone backported the cosmic pulsraudio?09:03
Kon-acheronuk: Thanks, it was a PPA for an app I wasn't using called PulseEffects. They apparently added all other things Pulse-related to their PPA09:08
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BluesKajHi folks11:47
eeoshi BluesKaj12:51
BluesKajhi eeos12:52
OvermindDL1Ah, that friend of mine also uses pulseeffects!  That might explain why his plasma-pa died then14:28
tonytinstalled wine but i cant find it20:16
tonytanyone have any ideas?20:16
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> @tonyt, The wine menu is currently broken, but all the wine stuff works.  From Dollphi, you can click an .exe file and it should run.20:21
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> you can also run winecfg from krunner or the terminal.20:22
tonytwell for instance i am trying to run mirc.exe but when try to open it it comes with with a windows to search for a program to run it with20:23
tonytand wine doesnt show up20:23
tonyti uninstalled wine and trying the wine dev release in the software center20:23
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> The stable or Dev will both work, but the .desktop files do not land in the correct location for KDE to detect them.20:24
tonytit still wont give me the option to run it with wine20:24
tonyt"choose application" windows pops up and the is no wine listed in there20:25
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> strangely enough, the wine menu will be correctly created when you install a windows program (but the winecfg link will still be missing).20:25
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> the wine menu and winecfg can be manually added using kmenuedit20:26
tonytim lost. im a little new to this.20:27
tonytim using hexchat but i was curious to see if i could get mirc to run20:28
* OvermindDL1 prefers either konversation for quicky irc stuff or irssi, or irccloud when on the phone...20:55
OvermindDL1I thought mIRC was long-dead, does it even support some of the newer things (not that this irc server uses them, but eh)?20:56
OvermindDL1I hear Quassal is awesome but not tried it yet20:56
valoriekonversation is teh awesome21:33
valorietonyt: does it run from krunner? (alt+space)21:34
valoriei rarely use menus anymore; just krunner or pin the app to the panel21:34
OvermindDL1krunner is my addiction22:15
OvermindDL1I wish it had a simple scripting plugin interface though (or does it)?22:15
OvermindDL1I've made a C++ plugin but too much pain for one-off things22:15
OvermindDL1I should probably just make a lua plugin for it or something, but unsure how to register new commands that way on the fly...22:16
valorieOvermindDL1: there may be a scripting plugin interface -- perhaps ask in #plasma during euro-working hours23:16
OvermindDL1Would be nice23:17

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