[00:19] There is no pulseaudio 12 in 18.04 [00:19] plasma-pa originally used gconf due to: https://cgit.kde.org/plasma-pa.git/commit/?h=Plasma/5.13&id=677775b7db387b0d019f1a62dfcea86159a51f40 [00:20] which is now optional in latest plasma: https://cgit.kde.org/plasma-pa.git/commit/?id=c9fae1fb3f8e8a820fd480ce227d7fabf87bd045 [01:18] Well somehow he got it, and he was not using staging or anything [01:18] Managed to fix it by parsing the apt log to get old version and downgrading to those, but of a pain but it fixed it all [01:19] Bit of* [01:20] So it was added to just keep from needing to serialize out some settings to restore modules, bleh, what an ancient dependency to just do that [01:44] Hey, quick question. Fresh install and snap packages don't show up in krunner / the menu. Is there a workaround for this minus creating menu entries for these apps? [01:55] weird after restarting it shows up [01:55] Ohh, I think it cause i changed my shell back to bash [06:40] Hi! I'm running kubuntu 18.04 on a laptop, upgraded from older versions. I've recently noticed that the little network icon has turned red. [06:41] The wireless NIC works and connects to my main wifi essid. But if I click on the little icon, it doesn't show me a list of detected essids like it used to. [06:42] I do have the options to disable wireless altogether, to go into airplane mode, or to configure the wireless LANs. [06:42] But I can't actually select which one should be current. [06:43] If I run "iwlist wlan0 scanning", I see a bunch of wireless essids detected. So it's all working at a low level. There just seems to be something wrong with the kubuntu applet foo. [06:43] Or maybe an intermediate layer. If I try nm-applet, I get equivalent behavior. [06:44] So something weird is going on. I know the relatively low levels of the network stack, but I suspect something is broken in some configuration layer that I am not familiar with. [06:44] Any clues? [07:02] Mandor: if you untick "connect automatically" you should be able to click and connect on the desired network [07:02] well you should be able to click connect as you like, but if you're jumping between SSIDs it might reconnect to a different one, was my thought [07:03] hateball: tried it. No joy. [07:04] In particular, unticking connect automatically from an SSID, saving, and restarting the network still reconnects automatically to the first ssid. And I still don't get a list of SSIDs. [07:05] Mandor, what if you remove all the saved connections and try again to connect but this time untick that [07:12] diogenes_: good idea. Oddly, the SSID came back. [07:15] Although DHCP didn't automatically come back. I had to reconfigure IP, etc. manually. [07:16] Mandor, maybe after removing them you needed a systemctl restart NetworkManager [07:16] Thanks, I already did that. [07:17] No joy. [07:19] Oh, wow. [07:19] I found at least two things that it might be: 1. /etc/network/interfaces has an auto stanza for wlan0. [07:21] 2. locate on my essid finds some stuff in /etc/NetworkManager. Although I think that's just stale locatedb entries. [07:26] I did ifdown -a, commented out the entry from /etc/network/interfaces, did an ifup -a, and restarted NetworkManager. No joy. [07:26] Mandor, what if you try to create a new test user and try there? [07:27] diogenes_: good idea. I think I'll rebooting, first, just in case something got left in a weird state from having an entry in /etc/network/interfaces. === acheronuk_ is now known as acheronuk [07:28] (Thank goodness for screen+cloud servers, or you would see me bouncing up and down in IRC every time I messed with one of these things.) [07:28] :) [07:28] do networks show when you scan for available ones on the command line? [07:28] Yup, iwlist wlan0 scan shows all the usual networks that I should see. [07:32] and 'nmcli device wifi list' ? [07:34] maybe after 'nmcli device wifi rescan' if nothing shows [07:38] Back. Yup, it was the /etc/network/interfaces file. Rebooting cleaed the bad state. Not sure why I had that in place, but probably something I did and forgot about. Sorry for wasting your collective time! [07:38] unless plasma-pa widget has gone complete fritzo, it should just report what network-manager thinks is there [07:39] Mandor: ah. ok. no problem :) [08:49] There's a pulse audio update for 18.04 and Discover wants to remove plasma-pa and the gconf module as part of the update process [08:50] This seems like it's not working as intended. How am I going to control levels without plasma-pa? And pulseaudio-module-gconf is used by all kinds of things [08:53] hi everybody. I am looking for a microblogging client that allows me to post brief messages on twitter, linkedin, researchgate and facebook at the same time .... anyone who know about one? [09:03] Kon-: last pulseaudio update in 18.04 was back on 4th July, and did not obsolete the gconf module. do you have a ppa where someone backported the cosmic pulsraudio? [09:08] acheronuk: Thanks, it was a PPA for an app I wasn't using called PulseEffects. They apparently added all other things Pulse-related to their PPA === himcesjf_ is now known as him-cesjf === mkv is now known as m4v === osx is now known as Toyo [11:47] Hi folks [12:51] hi BluesKaj [12:52] hi eeos [14:28] Ah, that friend of mine also uses pulseeffects! That might explain why his plasma-pa died then [20:16] installed wine but i cant find it [20:16] anyone have any ideas? [20:21] @tonyt, The wine menu is currently broken, but all the wine stuff works. From Dollphi, you can click an .exe file and it should run. [20:22] you can also run winecfg from krunner or the terminal. [20:23] well for instance i am trying to run mirc.exe but when try to open it it comes with with a windows to search for a program to run it with [20:23] and wine doesnt show up [20:23] i uninstalled wine and trying the wine dev release in the software center [20:24] The stable or Dev will both work, but the .desktop files do not land in the correct location for KDE to detect them. [20:24] it still wont give me the option to run it with wine [20:25] "choose application" windows pops up and the is no wine listed in there [20:25] strangely enough, the wine menu will be correctly created when you install a windows program (but the winecfg link will still be missing). [20:26] the wine menu and winecfg can be manually added using kmenuedit [20:27] im lost. im a little new to this. [20:28] im using hexchat but i was curious to see if i could get mirc to run [20:55] * OvermindDL1 prefers either konversation for quicky irc stuff or irssi, or irccloud when on the phone... [20:56] I thought mIRC was long-dead, does it even support some of the newer things (not that this irc server uses them, but eh)? [20:56] I hear Quassal is awesome but not tried it yet [21:33] konversation is teh awesome [21:34] tonyt: does it run from krunner? (alt+space) [21:34] i rarely use menus anymore; just krunner or pin the app to the panel [22:15] krunner is my addiction [22:15] I wish it had a simple scripting plugin interface though (or does it)? [22:15] I've made a C++ plugin but too much pain for one-off things [22:16] I should probably just make a lua plugin for it or something, but unsure how to register new commands that way on the fly... [23:16] OvermindDL1: there may be a scripting plugin interface -- perhaps ask in #plasma during euro-working hours [23:17] Would be nice