 oh my goo finally 👀
 praise goo
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/yxGmwuGW.mp4
 😂
[02:30] <ubptgbot> liamolua was added by: liamolua
 Hey all!
[03:06] <ubptgbot> <Craig Cohen> sooooo, can any of you help with the installation of touch on a nexus 5 ?
 What seems to be the issue?
[03:17] <ubptgbot> <Craig Cohen> When I reboot to bootloader nothing seems to happen
 Do any of you know if anyone is working on a Nexus 6P port still. I remember there was a "Unsupported" or a "Under Development" tab that listed the Nexus 6P but it seems to be removed.
 [Edit] Do any of you know if anyone is working on a Nexus 6P port still? I remember there was a "Unsupported" or a "Under Development" tab that listed the Nexus 6P but it seems to be removed.
 @Craig Cohen, Seems to be a known issue on Windows from my experience, but apparently it works fine on Linux.
 @thre4dinf0, Yep, I managed to install from a Linux VM without any issues
[03:32] <ubptgbot> <Craig Cohen> ok, so I had old laptop with 32bit pro and wanted to install touch on my nexus 5...I needed a 64bit to utilize ubports installer, bought a new hp desktop and installed ubuntu 18.04 on a dual boot setup.(im old please excuse my newberyness) cant get the wifi to work to use ubuntu to intall touch on phone so I attempted the window
[03:32] <ubptgbot> s way which failed.  Any suggestions ?
 I know that @WelcomePlus has people who have all the install secrets, but they might be asleep right now. Worth a try!
[03:33] <ubptgbot> <Craig Cohen> wifi works on pc partition not on ubuntu
[03:33] <ubptgbot> <Craig Cohen> Thanks
[03:38] <ubptgbot> <Craig Cohen> ok so I am supernewb is welcomeplus another group and where do I find the links to other support groups for clueless peeps like me?
 @Craig Cohen, Yes, it's another group, you can get there by just tapping @WelcomePlus
[03:41] <ubptgbot> <Craig Cohen> I miss my commodore 64
 Hey guys, is it possible to install Ubports on the oneplus one with windows or have I to use a Linux machine? I haven't read the how-to yet!
[04:41] <ubptgbot> Ponysmasher was added by: Ponysmasher
 Why camera bug still not cleared
 If Canonical didn't allow us to use the name 'Ubuntu Touch' any more we should call it 'UBinTouch'
 Or ubos
 @deedend, The installer works on windows as well.
 @deedend, Its possible with the Windows version of the installer ;)
 Thanks mates
 @deedend, Yes I used windows10 a few weeks back. As a fall back version 0.1.9 of the installer still works well on windows if you hit any issues. Other things as normal dev mode, usb debugging etc.etc. Good luck see you again in UBports land : )
 @jonny, 😂
 Damn my one plus one does not enter in bootloader... I can access only fastboot apparently
 @Craig Cohen, Wifi card drivers can be a problem with Ubuntu desktop. Using an old Android phone as a modem will get you going temporarily while you locate drivers
 Do I need TWRP?
 No, you don't need it
 Anyone here in Australia know if there is a retailer selling FairPhone (2) devices to here. Fairphone does not ship to Australia apparently.
 I am not sure if this oneplus one has root, and I can't access to the bootloader only to fastboot mode
 @deedend, If you join https://t.me/WelcomePlus (that's the UBports install group) they can help you there
 Also, you don't need root
 Hey someone answer my question
 @Ponysmasher, Don't be rude.
 @Ponysmasher, With that attitude no one will!!
 What's rude with rude
 [Edit] What's rude with that
 Just be patient
 :-)
 @Ponysmasher, Nobody is obliged to answer your question. So don't make demands.
 @alan_griffiths, Just answer or shut up don't give stupid advice
 Wow you seem like a jackass
 You don't deserve any advice with that attitude IMO
 U seem like a asshole
 Whoa whoa whoa. If you DEMAND that people give an answer or else, nobody will
 Thank you btw
 (Photo, 540x960) https://irc.ubports.com/73wB0SX2.png
 Go back to bed
 @Ponysmasher, Florian from UBports. Alan is one of the makers of Mir and a well-known Canonical employee. If you think he is giving stupid advices then probably we all are stupid here. This is a last warning or you will get kicked
 Answer me or not
 It's Wednesday, will there be an rc release today?
 @Ponysmasher, Michael. You didn't seem to get what we meant.
 (Photo, 496x686) https://irc.ubports.com/LvmoEf2f.png
 Spam reported and kicked
 Every time when some one questions this is the reply from u all
 Get a life
[08:47] <bshah> @Flohack fun xD
 @Ponysmasher, Well man, if you wanna get some answers, you should not be rude to people. Nobody wants to speak with rude guys
 @bshah, I love such people 😆
 Wow 1242 accounts are already on our ban list just for this room
 Just one person? 🤣
[08:53] <bshah> @Flohack: rofl, that guy started ranting in plamo group
[08:53] <bshah> insta ban
[08:53] <bshah> :P
 Been too hard on the coffee or just a potty mouthed kid..?
 lol
 It's Arvind/King again
 (Photo, 540x960) https://irc.ubports.com/nay0DhqZ.png
 I think I just missed something haha
 looool
 That's inappropriate too
 No need to be just as rude to the troll
 @Greenman64squid, People are wierd
 @dohbee, Sorry dawg
 The Code of Conduct goes both ways. :)
 Like the FreeBSD no hugs thing?
 @Greenman64squid, Feeding the trolls only encourages them. Best to ignore
 He's deleted his account LMAO so he wasn't trolling
 [Edit] He's deleted his account so he wasn't trolling
 Wow all it took was a bit of wittiness for him to go nuclear
 Anyway, back on topic. Ubuntu on your telephone must be awesome. Mine isn't supported but hey I would love to try!
 @Greenman64squid, Which device have you got?
 It isn't 'mainstream' Ubuntu btw
 Samsung galaxy grand prime
 Lol, just got a PM from his other account that was already banned
 That's dedication
 (Photo, 540x960) https://irc.ubports.com/T2NZgYQN.png
 (Photo, 540x960) https://irc.ubports.com/dS4epeKd.png
 (Photo, 540x960) https://irc.ubports.com/YUkfnH02.png
 (Photo, 540x960) https://irc.ubports.com/1Ddy4zMM.png
 (Photo, 540x960) https://irc.ubports.com/Pr6BfHJy.png
 @Greenman64squid, Its OK! Stop sending those screen!
 My bad
 thx
 By the way I didn't even know that there were MAJOR linux players in this chat (like a chanonical employee)
 Yeah we here
 @Greenman64squid, We are a serious project though we sometimes dont look like, especially in the Q&As ^^
 lmao what did I miss here
 Did I miss a rude troll? :P
 Yeah
 Haha
 He had some juicy insults
 'Juicy' with sarcasm
 Yeah, some people are really interesting
 @Greenman64squid, I don't think anyone has done any work on those. Most new users go for Nexus5 or OnePlusOne but you may find a Nexus7 2013 wifi tablet at a very low price
 Very cook
 [Edit] Very cool
 Hello there ! Does anyone know an URL with an basic Libertine-container (desktop app) HOWTO-like available ?
 https://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/userguide/dailyuse/libertine.html
 If you want to use the GUI, is pretty self-explanatory but you have to hit the enter key for searches (it's a bug)
 Thank You !!!
 You're welcome!
 Also this can help you http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/xenial/man1/libertine-container-manager.1.html
 [Edit] Also this can help you too http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/xenial/man1/libertine-container-manager.1.html
 Awesome ! Thanks a lot !
 👍
 Is softeher client supported by Ubuntu touch??
 If you mean SoftEther, Ubuntu Touch has VPN support
 OpenVPN is supported
 SoftEther is not. I would say it's also a bit questionable and I would advise against using it anyway.
 How are the possibilities to boot on a Huawei P9 (EVA) ?
[10:21] <ubptgbot> Wile E was added by: Wile E
 @lindisfarne, Do you mean UT? The possibility is "if someone made a UT port for that device" :)
 @advocatux, Yes :) - is that a hard thing to do? Or is it something that can be done by a mere mortal?
 I worry a bit about the hardware because it has two lenses on the back
 @lindisfarne, In short: hard :) … See https://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/porting/introduction.html … But if you have the knowledge & the skills & and all the necessary parts then...
 allright - thanks :) - Guess i'll be sticking to trying the ol' nexus 5 boot then. And maybe one beautiful (and more skillfull) day in the future I can make it work.
 @lindisfarne, You're welcome. … BTW, more devices are coming to UT but they are not ready yet
 Great :) Looking forward to it :)
[11:06] <ubptgbot> <Wile E> It's Wednesday why no new rc yet?
 It isn't midnight yet…
[11:09] <ubptgbot> <Wile E> Is OTA 4 reason for delay
 Of course that is possible. It is a very busy time
[11:11] <ubptgbot> <Wile E> What's the email of ubports for help
 @Wile E, What you need?
 @Flohack, AntiStorm bot automatically adds people to the ban list who are spamming other chats
 So it's not our ban list
 It's a collective ban list
[12:56] <ubptgbot> sonicher0 was added by: sonicher0
 Hi, now that PostmarketOS is working on a mainline kernel for the Nexus 5, Fairphone 2 and OP One... is there any plans to implement this on Ubports?
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/0ywUcwyW.webp
 @sonicher0, Ubuntu on phones is pretty heavily dependent on hybris, so it is not a trivial thing to do. Does mainline have 100% hardware support as good as the binary blob drivers?
 I'm just still unable to figure out why all these mobile os are doing separate projects.  I "think" it's because some of them allow lower CPU processors to work (Plasma?) while UBports Ubuntu Touch is more focused on convergence, big CPU ?  Anyways, seems like it would be awesome if we could just combine all the people into on
[13:05] <ubptgbot> e big thing.. :(
 @wayneoutthere, different goals for different poles, or something
 it seems that postmarket OS is more focussed on "mainlining" support for hardware, and packaging whatever they can find to work on top of it
 theoretically, you could run unity 8 on top of it for instance
 you can run unity8 if GLES works i guess
 also, with the librem 5 coming in (which is mainline based ...) - i consider it a good question
 but unity8 != ubuntu touch
 sure.. i guess.  it's not like humans ever agree on anything so why should we expect them to agree on this?  That's why we have a coffee shop with a different roast on every block. Not a bad thing I guess
 @rogieroudshoorn, That's what I was thinking
 yeah, librem is mean to be mainline, so there is some work that needs to be done to support it obviously. there's also interest in making things work on rpi
 @wayneoutthere, that's just because you are in BC. here it's the same coffee shop on every block :P
 AH!!!
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/eR8Lqf02.mp4
 does she almost show her chest and look like a green mermaid??
 That isn't 'coffee'. (Runs away…)
 i think that's getting a bit OT
 True
 how is coffee OT???
 it's 'overflow'
 @dohbee, Nexus 5 at least has a good support
 blah blah ubuntu touch yadda yadda
 i just broke my N5 screen :(
 @wayneoutthere, fix it
 Hey @sonicher0, any chance I can get you to ask that on the forum so I can write a longer-form answer?
 i know.  will
 That way we can point people to it in the future
 @UniversalSuperBox, Sorry, but I don't have an account in the forum 😅
 i can probably try to ask it there
 or it's easy enough to create an account ;)
 https://github.com/flto/linux/wiki/hammerhead-upstream
 I don't know if the info is outdated
 question asked on forum; if you wanted to Mike i'd be happy to delete it
 Send me the link please
 https://forums.ubports.com/topic/1593/mainline-linux
 Thanks
 @rogieroudshoorn, PostmarketOS has lower standards in terms of what works on a device. We want to have a fully functional phone only with very minor glitches, and we strive to be on par with demands by majority of consumers. Thats the only way you can even try to get  noticed
 pmOS has been doing the work of the gods with their mainlining efforts
 @rogieroudshoorn, You could do it right now on a nexus 5 with their kernel and a reference rootfs
 @Flohack, I fully understand (and appreciate!) that; which is why i phrased it as "good enough" in my question on the forum
 @samzn, If only brands were like Sony when it comes to mainlining devices
 if only everything was all open source
 If only chinese brands stopped violating GPL
 It's not just the kernel, it's also the driver binaries out of the kernel
 Android was architected in a way that drivers which would normally be in-kernel are in userspace
 Specifically to avoid GPL
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/1J7KFgdV.mp4
 Oh, I get it
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/I0srZsv5.webp
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/eC31yuTW.mp4
 @UniversalSuperBox, And the bootloader
 o_O
 Ah yes, the firmware too
 @sonicher0, Move to UEFI and ACPI and mainlining becomes super easy
 You wouldn't even need a device tree
 (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/hofD2AOJ.png
 @samzn, EFIdroid?
 EFIDroid's core with a lot of changes to support ACPI etc
 EFIDroid runs on top of Littlekernel?
 @samzn, doesn't really help without SoC support in kernel I guess
 @NotKit, For auxiliary hardware support yeah, just like a PC, a 950XL can boot to the login screen of fedora with all cores even though 810 has zero mainline support
 what about emmc? does it use EFI runtime services to access storage or?
 oh my goo wayne what is that
 and i'm saving the colonel sanders one o.O
 since you guys are talking about mainlining what ever happened to the android mainlining project 👀
 @Fuseteam, Popcorn
 ...........really?
 it looked like a weird sea creature or something 👀
 Kernels!!!!!!
 Everywhere !!!
 …
 i'm starting to think we need to c̶a̶t̶c̶h̶ collect 'em all