[00:09] <feedbackmoitor> Hi, I did a local apt get install of VLC and it is too buggy to run (because of my graphics driver). Where can I get a separate install of VLC media player? Not a repo one? I went to the official site and the ubuntu repo kicked in when I installed it. If I recall, there is another way to get VLC
[00:10] <feedbackmoitor> I was able to do it before, someone helped me here, but like a goof I did not write it down.
[00:10] <leftyfb> feedbackmoitor: a "separate install" of vlc probably isn't going to make any difference
[00:11] <feedbackmoitor> leftyfb, It did, it was a stand alone install that had its own dependencies
[00:11] <leftyfb> feedbackmoitor: you could try the snap: sudo snap install vlc
[00:11] <feedbackmoitor> ahh
[00:15] <feedbackmoitor> leftyfb, : - )
[00:20] <tacomaster> I was just about to swap to ubuntu from windows 10 but I have only one thing that I have to be able to connect to. Does ubuntu support connecting to a remote remote desktop gateway with domain creds?
[01:02] <rfm> tacomaster, I don't know (and apparently nobody else does) but remmina, the gnome remote desktop client, is in the live CD build of Ubuntu.  you could just boot it, select "try ubuntu" and try connecting to the gateway...
[01:11] <kasi> hi
[01:11] <kasi> how can i upload a file from my linux to ssh
[01:13] <leftyfb> kasi: scp
[01:13] <kasi> full command please
[01:15] <xamithan> scp filename user@host:/remote/location
[01:32] <rangemonger> yes! i got it booted with iommu on
[01:32] <rangemonger> as i suspected the nv cards conflict with eachother
[01:32] <rangemonger> i had to blacklist neveau and boot off the intel gfx
[01:44] <dedze> Hello, it seems I have 4 speech-dispatcher opened, I never opened them and I googled what it is and I have never used the accessibility options from ubuntu (they are disabled), should I worry about it? How can I turn this off?
[01:58] <rex> Is there a way I can change the "Tue 19:58" time format on the top bar of the screen?
[02:01] <lotuspsychje> rex: yes with gnome-tweak-tool
[02:24] <coldpresent> hey all, i have two programs that depend on the same /usr/lib/libproxy.so.1, but one requires a ELF 32-bit, while the other requires a ELF 64-bit
[02:25] <coldpresent> but both programs point to the same libproxy file, how do I divert each program to the correct *-bit file?
[02:25] <Delvien> Does anyone know how to change audio profiles via terminal?
[02:27] <jehorn> I have had a 32 bit and 64 bit version of the same program. What I did was install the 32-bit development libraries. I never had a problem with the 32 bit program trying to use the 64 bit library after I installed them.
[02:28] <coldpresent> jehorn: thanks for your advice, but these are separate 32-bit and 64-bit programs
[02:28] <coldpresent> there is no 64-bit version of the 32-bit program, and there is no 32-bit version of the 64-bit program
[02:29] <Delvien> I found my own answer: pactl set-card-profile 0 output:hdmi-stereo+input:analog-stereo (for future reference) and you can find audio profiles via: pacmd list-cards
[02:29] <rex> Okay, that worked.  Now, can I changed "20:49" to something like "08:49 PM" in the top bar?
[02:29] <rex> I only see other date options
[02:30] <lotuspsychje> rex: yes options are limited, is that what you were looking for?
[02:30] <rex> Partially
[02:30] <lotuspsychje> rex: what did you have in mind?
[02:30] <rex> I just want to change it off of 24 time
[02:30] <rex> 24 hour time
[02:31] <rex> Everything else is as I want it
[02:31] <lotuspsychje> rex: holdon lemme check in dconf
[02:34] <lotuspsychje> rex: got it
[02:34] <lotuspsychje> rex: install dconf-tools then with dconf-editor goto: org/gnome/desktop/interface
[02:34] <Rockwood> how can i find the large file of a folder in unbuntu?
[02:36] <Bashing-om> Rockwood: Something like ' du -h /<dir> | sort -nr ' .
[02:43] <Rockwood> Bashing-om, for largest file in folder and this folder have many sub dictionaries?
[02:43] <Rockwood> right i can see only folders size right now
[02:46] <rex> lotuspsychje: Thanks much!
[02:47] <Bashing-om> Rockwood: ' ls -al <dir> ' do what you want ?
[02:47] <jehorn> coldpresent: Have you tried sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386 && apt-get update then sudo apt-get install whateverlib-dev:i386 that should install the 32 bit version of whatever library you need.
[02:49] <Rockwood> du -a /var/www/improvement/ | sort -n -r   works for me
[02:49] <Bashing-om> Rockwood: :)
[02:49] <Rockwood> Bashing-om, how i could use "| pastebin"?
[02:51] <Rockwood> Bashing-om, thanks for help
[02:53] <Bashing-om> Rockwood: ' sudo apt install pastebinit ' . Then pipe the commanf result to pastebinit . ' du -a /var/www/improvement/ | sort -n -r | pastebinit ' .
[02:53] <Rockwood> Bashing-om, thanks again :)
[02:57] <Bashing-om> Rockwood: Though you did ask about pastebin .. one can use for instance terminbin.com with out having to install any utility .
[03:09] <Rockwood> Bashing-om, can i make log like composer update | pastebinit?
[03:11] <Bashing-om> Rockwood: one 'cats' a log file . ' cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | nc termbin.com 9999 ' for instance .
[03:20] <nacc> althoguh i think the above case, i do think `composer update` does print to stdout so it would work
[03:21] <Rockwood> nacc, works
[03:24] <Boyette> hi
[03:24] <Boyette> i have a question
[03:25] <Rockwood> Boyette, you have a question and what is that?
[03:25] <Boyette> im not good in ubuntu
[03:25] <Boyette> i have a vps
[03:25] <Rockwood> hope you don't like my credit card number :P
[03:25] <Boyette> i got in serious trouble because my standard boot size partition was running out of space
[03:25] <Boyette> i had to reset the vps
[03:25] <Boyette> its running again
[03:25] <Boyette> but now before i start
[03:26] <Boyette> i like to increase the bootsize
[03:26] <Boyette> but how
[03:26] <Boyette> i installed gparted but i need to do this hot because its a vps i cant run a live disc
[03:27] <Boyette> or is there another way
[03:41] <Mibixy> do i put nofail in my fstab folder for my non important drives?
[03:42] <Mibixy> err fstab file
[03:58] <sergiuse> /join #ubuntu-md
[04:06] <trogdor> Anyone have any luck remapping capslock to control in the console? I made approriate changes to /etc/default/keyboard, and it works fine in X, but not on the virtual ttys. Caps lock is still caps lock there.
[04:06] <trogdor> I've googled until my eyes bled. No luck.
[04:13] <uxbal> hey guys, is ubuntu a fully foss distro?
[04:14] <coz_> uxbal,   take a look here   https://askubuntu.com/questions/533661/is-ubuntu-an-open-source-software
[05:04] <kenneth> anyone using ubuntu in an all-in-one pc and the on screen keyboard is not working for some chars? e.g. @ char is number 2
[05:09] <ZzZombo> How can I stop Ubuntu from switching locales on Ctrl+Shift when I'm performing a larger key combination, i. e. +Left Arror?
[06:01] <badpixel11>          __
[06:18] <Tali0A_> hi
[06:19] <Tali0A_> hi
[06:27] <guiverc> Howdy Tali0A_, if you have a Ubuntu Support question, please just ask it. People will answer if it when they can, & yes patience is required :)
[06:39] <Aliekezhi> hi, any idea how to display nfs in nautilus or caja ? I get the following error message : "cannot handle nfs locations"
[06:42] <guiverc> Aliekezhi, i mount via command (or fstab auto), and refer to NFS shares only via directory (hence file manager doesn't care that it's a network fs) - don't know how to handle only in file.manager sorry
[06:44] <lwizardl> what options do i have for creating a sort of theme layout and autogenerate the content with details from ods sheets ?
[06:44] <lwizardl> looking to do pdf outputs
[06:46] <relyant> So I'm switching full time from Windows. Therefore I now have a free SSD with 200GB. Ubuntu is on a 64GB SSD. So now I see 2 options: KVM to use both SSDs or to make a RAID 10 with a partition on the existing slow HDD i also have. Any thoughts?
[06:46] <relyant> *LVM
[06:51] <ducasse> relyant: be aware that if you make an lvm volume that spans across two physical disks, if one disk fails you lose all your data
[06:52] <relyant> i know. that wouldn't be a big issue. i would just set up some other way to backup the ssd's
[06:53] <relyant> how do you think the performance with raid 10 and a slow hdd would be?
[06:56] <ducasse> the hdd will slow it down, of course, you really need to test to see how much
[06:57] <relyant> so a kvm with regular backups to a hdd would definetly be faster?
[06:57] <relyant> *lvm again
[06:58] <ducasse> if it only spans the two ssds, yes
[06:59] <relyant> Ok. Last question. Is there an easy way to do this without reinstalling the OS?
[07:01] <ducasse> you can copy the data across, edit fstab and reinstall grub
[07:01] <relyant> Ok. Thank you very much ducasse and have a nice day :)
[07:03] <ducasse> relyant: no problem, same to you :)
[07:13] <alexcold> Goodmorning
[07:14] <solars> quick question: I have added https://launchpad.net/~unit193/+archive/ubuntu/encryption but can't find a package veracrypt - why is that?
[07:14] <alexcold> I need help. I need to mount encrypted Apple Core Storage partition (I have password)
[07:15] <ryuo> alexcold: that's probably using a proprietary encryption system. i doubt you can mount it under Linux.
[07:15] <ducasse> solars: which release are you on?
[07:16] <ryuo> alexcold: if that's important to you, you'd probably be better served using veracrypt or something like it.
[07:17] <solars> ducasse: ah 17.10
[07:18] <ducasse> solars: that's eol, you need to upgrade
[07:19] <motte> hi, does anyone have any experience with usb 3.0 to ethernet adapters? i'm experiencing slow upload speeds with a lenovo usb3.0 adapter. speedtest-cli shows about 4mbit/s, rated speed is 50mbit/s. it does occasionally get the right speed. the same setup works fine on another ubuntu machine and the logs show no errors
[07:25] <solars> ducasse: so the veracrypt package is only in the new release?
[07:26] <ducasse> solars: it's only in supported releases, this is true of most ppas
[07:29] <solars> ducasse: ah alright, thank you
[07:30] <ducasse> solars: also you need to upgrade to get security patches etc, you've been without updates for a while now
[07:31] <xX1523Xx> hi
[07:32] <alexcold> thanks ryuo
[07:33] <ryuo> alexcold: LUKS is what Linux natively supports. Some ports of it exists elsewhere. but veracrypt is a cross-platform solution.
[07:34] <guiverc> solars, that repo says clearly "This PPA currently publishes packages for Bionic, Xenial, and Trusty."
[07:34] <alexcold> where can i find veracrypt?
[07:37] <ryuo> alexcold: seems Ubuntu doesn't ship with it. you'll need to use a PPA i believe.
[07:38] <ryuo> alexcold: you'll also need a filesystem that's cross-platform.
[07:38] <ryuo> alexcold: probably NTFS or FAT32 these days. i'm assuming macOS can use ntfs-3g.
[07:39] <ducasse> alexcold: https://launchpad.net/~unit193/+archive/ubuntu/encryption - note that this is unsupported
[07:40] <ryuo> alexcold: or even exFAT.
[07:40] <ryuo> not many good options for removable file systems...
[07:41] <ryuo> it's largely dictated by what windows supports.
[07:44] <mechmaster> hi 2 all
[07:45] <ryuo> uh oh. we had another visit from the hit and run greeter.
[07:50] <IcusDicus> Morning. Last night we had issues on one of our Ubuntu servers, and the logs indicated that we ran out of memory. Is there a way I can check retrospectively what the culprit was? I have since rebooted the server
[07:58] <qwebirc89655> Greetings! Ubuntu 18.04 windows snap to the dock and top bar, also they snap window-to-window. Is it possible to disable this via dconf-editor or another way?
[08:01] <qwebirc89655> Greetings! Ubuntu 18.04 windows snap to the dock and top bar, also they snap window-to-window. Is it possible to disable this via dconf-editor or another way?
[08:26] <bhuddah> so i'm really unsatisfied with fail2ban... for various reasons. what alternatives are there if you wanna trigger actions from logging?
[08:29] <Han> bhuddah, sshguard is nice.
[08:30] <bhuddah> Han: not a bad idea. but as far as i understood it only trigger pre-implemented actions. so it's not very versatile. i'm looking for something where i can setup custom actions.
[08:31] <bhuddah> triggers*
[08:32] <sentiment> hello. This really nuts. A simple old ethernet card is refusing to work under Ubuntu 16.04
[08:32] <Han> If I change the polkit rule: /usr/share/polkit-1/rules.d/60-network-manager.rules I see no changes in behaviour, not in the logfiles, not after restarting polkitd, not after rebooting. Nothing. What do I have to do to make my changes have some sort of effect?
[08:32] <sentiment> I have tried unloading and reloading the driver to no avail. I also DID search on the web
[08:32] <sentiment> no result
[08:32] <sentiment> can somebody please guide me ?
[08:34] <sentiment> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/pWC4k4CHbV/
[08:34] <sentiment> ^ the dmesg result
[08:36] <jojero> Hello
[08:36] <Han> sentiment, show me the result of ip a and dhclient -v enp2s15
[08:36] <jojero> Hello, may I ask why ubuntu 18.04 lags when I plug in usb?
[08:59] <onimisionipe_> hello
[09:02] <sentiment> Han: ip a result >  https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/TY7ZNzNJCq/
[09:02] <sentiment> the other one is still outputting ... same output as ifup
[09:02] <sentiment> will post it when it's done
[09:04] <Han> sentiment, "state DOWN" run ifup enp2s15
[09:05] <sentiment> Han: did a hundred times. it did nothing , just printed DHCPDISCOVER on enp2s15 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 3 (xid=0xbc3aab04)
[09:05] <sentiment> lots of that
[09:05] <sentiment> bbl
[09:05] <Han> dhclient should put it up as well. Do use dmesg -Tw in another term to see what's going on.
[09:06] <Han> I suppose you already connected the cable, right? And the lights are blinking, right?
[09:07] <jojero> why mssql not working on mine?
[09:08] <sanmathieu> hi
[09:09] <bugzbunny20> 05:05 < Han> dhclient should put it up as well. Do use dmesg -Tw in another term to see what's going on.
[09:10] <bugzbunny20> Han: When you have balls in your hands to tell something they don't understand
[09:10] <bugzbunny20> Han: Does it it make it feel better as person
[09:12] <bugzbunny20> I am understands
[09:12] <bugzbunny20> You and ops are superior
[09:19] <eeos> hi everybody. I am looking for a  client that allows me to post brief messages on twitter, linkedin, facebook, etc. at the same time .... anyone who know about one?
[09:19] <sentiment> Han: no lights
[09:19] <sentiment> though in Windows it does work, as usual.
[09:21] <Han> sentiment, have you got the firmware-realtek package installed?
[09:21] <sentiment> Han: the last two messages are:
[09:21] <sentiment> No DHCPOFFERS received.
[09:21] <sentiment> No working leases in persistent database - sleeping.
[09:23] <Han> sentiment, sorry, I don't have a clue. Hopefully somebody else has.
[09:23] <Crakila> eeos, AFAIK, there isn't any client that fits your needs, you would need to look at a web based solution like "Hootsuite" or "Buffer". Some of them have free tiers but most of them have paid tiers.
[09:24] <sentiment> Han: thanks, and no I didn't install firmware-realtek. and there's no such package, I will look it up
[09:28] <eeos> Crakila: Thank you! I was really hoping for a client .... I am not terribly keen on Hootsuite, Buffer or Disqus.
[09:34] <Mr-Potter> Hello is anyone able to say which version of ubuntu will run on a lenovo ideapad s10-2
[09:36] <lotuspsychje> Mr-Potter: for testing we always advice to run a liveusb first
[09:36] <lotuspsychje> Mr-Potter: seeing your hardware works==> physical install
[09:37] <Mr-Potter> lotuspsychje: Good idea.
[09:37] <Mr-Potter> I'm having some difficulty choosing which distro
[09:38] <lotuspsychje> Mr-Potter: as you are here in #ubuntu, we reccomend you ubuntu
[09:38] <Mr-Potter> Thanks will do
[09:39] <lotuspsychje> Mr-Potter: or did you mean ubuntu flavor?
[09:40] <cpctr> hi sir
[09:40] <adrian_1908> hi sir!
[09:41] <ledeni> sentiment: can you boot with 'noapic' in grub  and see you network card work
[09:41] <Mr-Potter> lotuspsychje: I meant both.
[09:42] <Mr-Potter> Which ubuntu flavor would you recommend for an old netbook?
[09:42] <lotuspsychje> Mr-Potter: older hardware we reccomend lubuntu or xubuntu
[09:42] <lotuspsychje> Mr-Potter: but that depends really on 'how' old?
[09:43] <Mr-Potter> Got it
[09:43] <adrian_1908> Mr-Potter: Some people swear on "Lubuntu", but I found it lacking too much in convenience. I really like Xubuntu (Xfce), with some post installation customization.
[09:43] <Mr-Potter> Awesome thanks
[09:44] <lotuspsychje> Mr-Potter: if its not too old, you can try ubuntu-mate also
[09:44] <Mr-Potter> lotuspsychje: Got it
[09:45] <adrian_1908> lotuspsychje: The notebook model looks to be an Intel Atom from about decade ago, that might struggle considerably.
[09:46] <lotuspsychje> adrian_1908: sorry, i missed the specs
[09:48] <Mr-Potter> adrian_1908: What about Lubuntu?
[09:49] <adrian_1908> Mr-Potter: should be among the lightest Ubuntu distros you can find, lighter than Xubuntu or Ubuntu Mate. I just didn't like it much when i tried it years go (was quite unpolished), but plenty of users do.#
[09:50] <Mr-Potter> got it
[09:50] <lotuspsychje> depends on the machine really, i had one case where an old aspire runned xubuntu better
[09:50] <adrian_1908> Mr-Potter: As lotuspsychje said, you can/should try a Live CD. So just test drive it (and possibly others) and decide then.
[09:50] <Mr-Potter> got it
[09:51] <lotuspsychje> Mr-Potter: and a last idea, 18.04 has now a minimal option, perhaps good for your case?
[09:51] <Mr-Potter> good idea :)
[09:51] <Mr-Potter> which desktop enviornment do you mean?
[09:52] <lotuspsychje> Mr-Potter: all 18.04 flavors should now have the choice in setup
[09:52] <Mr-Potter> ok
[09:52] <lotuspsychje> full install/minimal
[09:53] <lotuspsychje> Mr-Potter: just keep in mind, minimal might need some tweaks afterwards
[09:53] <lotuspsychje> Mr-Potter: but will give you nice low space install
[09:53] <Mr-Potter> ok
[09:57] <ph88> hey guys i'm trying to follow this guide https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/EnableProposed i created the file mentioned at "Selective upgrading from -proposed" but it's still proposing to update a lot of packages
[09:58] <lotuspsychje> ph88: can we ask why you need proposed?
[09:59] <Mr-Potter> out of curiosity why are there multiple isos for different ubuntu flavours
[09:59] <Mr-Potter> is it not possible to get around that by downloading an installer which will install them all from one iso?
[10:00] <ph88> lotuspsychje, for diagnosing bug
[10:00] <lotuspsychje> !proposed | ph88
[10:00] <ducasse> Mr-Potter: they include different packages those flavors are made from, an image with all of them would be huge
[10:00] <Mr-Potter> ducasse: Got it thanks
[10:01] <Mr-Potter> !proposed | Justin-Bieber
[10:01] <Mr-Potter> xD
[10:01] <Mr-Potter> Never say never
[10:01] <ph88> lotuspsychje, don't know why you are giving these links, i'm already on the right page
[10:08] <ducasse> ph88: which package do you want?
[10:09] <enock> Enock Apraku Tanor
[10:09] <ph88> ducasse, kernel
[10:09] <ducasse> ph88: you should be able to add proposed and do 'apt install packagename' tp upgrade just that package, then you can disable proposed again
[10:10] <ph88> ah yes that's a good idea
[10:10] <ph88> thanks ducasse
[10:10] <ducasse> np, yw
[10:12] <ph88> i need these right?  linux-generic linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic linux-tools-generic
[10:13] <ducasse> ph88: if you try just the first two, it should drag in dependencies
[10:16] <ph88> got it
[10:21] <cappe> hello! having put latest ubuntu into a usb driver with rufus, when I boot the computer with the usb as first boot option I get to GNU-grub "minimal bash-like" how do I from there continue the booting into the installation of ubuntu? when I try "boot" at the commandline it states I need to load kernel first
[10:25] <cappe> ?
[10:26] <hateball> !patience | cappe
[10:27] <hateball> I personally have no experience making live-boots from Windows
[10:28] <crackpotmark> cappe: that sounds like you get to a grub cmd line either because it can't find a valid config or your e key is stuck down
[10:28] <crackpotmark> Try making the live USB again
[10:28] <cappe> ok
[10:28] <crackpotmark> It's a little complex to manually boot from there
[10:29] <cappe> exactly
[10:29] <ducasse> maybe try a different drive
[10:29] <cappe> when I do this in rufus, do I need to keep something special in mind?
[10:29] <cappe> ok
[10:29] <ducasse> you shouldn't need to do anything to boot, sounds like it's not written correctly
[10:29] <crackpotmark> Make sure the drive is empty
[10:29] <cappe> ok
[10:30] <cappe> with ntfs or fat32?
[10:30] <crackpotmark> Fat32
[10:30] <cappe> oh, perhaps that was the mistake causing this to fail
[10:30] <cappe> thanks guys, maybe "I'll be back"
[10:30] <cappe> ciao
[10:31] <crackpotmark> Good luck
[10:55] <w0rp> Does anyone know how I can figure out where to send email to who to send email to, for getting a bug in an Ubuntu package noticed?
[10:56] <w0rp> I'd like it if whoever is responsible for the Vim package could get the Bionic Vim package upgraded to a more recent patch level to fix a bug present in the Vim patch level used for the package, but not in patches slightly older or newer than that.
[10:57] <w0rp> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vim/+bug/1768026 That's the bug.
[10:57] <hateball> w0rp: apt show vim|grep Maintainer
[10:57] <w0rp> Thanks, that's one thing I was looking for.
[11:09] <S_Gautam> hey folks if i install the gcc-mingw-w64 toolchain from ubuntu does it mean that all libraries are taken care of?
[11:10] <JimBuntu> !bugs
[11:20] <hans_> minimum disk requirements for ubuntu 18.04 server edition?
[11:21] <ikonia> couple of hundred meg
[11:21] <hans_> so 1 gig should suffice?
[11:23] <ikonia> yup
[11:23] <hans_> thanks
[11:24] <hans_> how's the 16.04->18.04 upgrade stuff going? last i heard, it wasn't supported yet
[11:25] <ikonia> hans_: it is now available
[11:25] <hans_> great, thanks
[11:46] <sentiment> hello. Anyone know how Can get you know...a regular ETHERNET card to work under you know... Ubuntu Linux, A NETWORK OS?
[11:47] <lotuspsychje> sentiment: can you explain that question please
[11:48] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[11:48] <sentiment> lotuspsychje: r8169 driver... not working. the ethernet card lights are off
[11:48] <sentiment> under windows it just works
[11:49] <lotuspsychje> sentiment: yes, realtek can be a pain to get working..your ubuntu version and kernel version please?
[11:49] <sentiment> I can't believe I have been wrestling with this issue for about 6 hours
[11:51] <lotuspsychje> sentiment: can you answer the question please?
[11:51] <sentiment> lotuspsychje: oh please! Are you serious? they are one of the top manufacturers of NICs and Linux has yet to support them correctly? anyways... kernel version is 4.4 and Ubuntu is 16.04...  are you going to tell me to upgrade? Id rather solve it by hand
[11:51] <sentiment> 4.4.0-133-generic
[11:52] <lotuspsychje> !info linux-image-generic xenial
[11:52] <sentiment> the driver is built into the kernel
[11:52] <lotuspsychje> sentiment: can you please test the hwe kernel
[11:53] <sentiment> I disabled it and re-enabled it
[11:53] <sentiment> even installed dkmg 8168 sourec to no avail
[11:53] <ducasse> sentiment: realtek are really bad at providing drivers for linux or the docs to allow kernel devs to write them. not linux' fault.
[11:53] <lotuspsychje> sentiment: i had the same bug, move to hwe kernel please
[11:54] <lotuspsychje> sentiment: 4.15 kernel should fix this
[11:54] <sentiment> really? how can I do that? upgrade the whole distro?
[11:54] <ducasse> !hwe
[11:54] <lotuspsychje> !hwe | sentiment
[11:54] <sentiment> what does it mean hwe?
[11:55] <ducasse> read the link from ubottu
[11:55] <sentiment> ok thanks
[11:55] <sentiment> I will follow that link
[11:55] <sentiment> is it a dangerious move? because it's the kernel...
[11:56] <Chicken_Wrap> sentiment: HWE is just going to be the latest kernel
[11:56] <sentiment> lotuspsychje: if it is a driver compile , can I do that without going thru that hassle ?
[11:57] <lotuspsychje> sentiment: the past has learned is realtek driver issues are mostly related to a different kernel or firmware version
[11:57] <lotuspsychje> sentiment: so, just try that hwe kernel please as test
[11:57] <sentiment> ok thanks. I need to read that link carefully.
[11:57] <sentiment> i'll be back with the results
[12:02] <Chicken_Wrap> do you think he's going to be okay
[12:02] <lotuspsychje> Chicken_Wrap: yes i had the same bug, but devs removed the url as its solved
[12:03] <lotuspsychje> Chicken_Wrap: xenial worked months on the realtek, then after an update it broke
[12:03] <lotuspsychje> Chicken_Wrap: till now hwe kernel, working again
[12:06] <davidcuba> Buenos días, existes alguna comunidad de ubuntu en español ???
[12:06] <lotuspsychje> !es | davidcuba si
[12:15] <sentiment> lotuspsychje: :-(
[12:15] <lotuspsychje> uname -a sentiment ?
[12:16] <sentiment> 4.15.0-32-generic
[12:16] <lotuspsychje> sentiment: linux-firmware installed?
[12:16] <sentiment> let me check
[12:17] <sentiment> linux-firmware - Firmware for Linux kernel drivers
[12:17] <sentiment> apt-cache rsult
[12:17] <lotuspsychje> ok looks good
[12:17] <sentiment> oh wait, the card's lights just went on
[12:17] <sentiment> hmm
[12:18] <sentiment> after I did sudo ifdown enp2s15
[12:18] <sentiment> hmmm.. is that not weird?
[12:18] <lotuspsychje> sentiment: try a reboot now? see if it works by default
[12:19] <sentiment> I did reboot after the kernel upgrade
[12:19] <sentiment> and the lights were off until ifdown
[12:19] <sentiment> but my etc/network/interfaces config might also be incorrect
[12:19] <lotuspsychje> if its working now sentiment it should mean the realtek module is working
[12:20] <sentiment> lotuspsychje: despite the lights, the ifconfig doesn't work the card
[12:20] <sentiment> as if it is down
[12:20] <sentiment> should I ifup it again?
[12:20] <lotuspsychje> sentiment: did you play with config recently or so?
[12:20] <sentiment> I meant ifconfig doesn't list the card
[12:21] <sentiment> I did, I have been struggling with this since the 6 hours ago
[12:21] <sentiment> mainly the interfaces file
[12:21] <lotuspsychje> sentiment: sudo lshw -C network to check driver=
[12:21] <leftyfb> sentiment: ifconfig -a
[12:22] <leftyfb> sentiment: or ifconfig enp2s15
[12:22] <sentiment> leftyfb: the card is down because of ifdown depite the lights on the card being on
[12:22] <leftyfb> sentiment: please pastebin your interfaces file
[12:23] <sentiment> lotuspsychje: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/yDVkNr6wvY/
[12:23] <lotuspsychje> sentiment: network:1 DISABLED ,driver looks good
[12:24] <sentiment> leftyfb: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/BWsTGXXPGs/
[12:24] <leftyfb> lotuspsychje: it's because he took down the interface
[12:24] <sentiment> lotuspsychje: it always looked good I guess, even before the upgrade
[12:25] <sentiment> leftyfb: should I ifup it ?
[12:25] <leftyfb> sentiment: open up 2 terminals. One running: tail -f /var/log/syslog ## and the other sudo ifup enp2s15
[12:26] <sentiment> ok, you want to see result of ifup? I mean should I run ifup then the log?
[12:26] <leftyfb> sentiment: open up 2 terminals. One running: tail -f /var/log/syslog ## and the other sudo ifup enp2s15
[12:27] <sentiment> ok
[12:28] <sentiment> it's running now
[12:28] <sentiment> the NIC lights went off
[12:28] <sentiment> the ifup is generating repetitive output "DHCPDISCOVER on enp2s15 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 3 (xid=0x525f6074)
[12:28] <effortDee> my laptop resolution gives me 5 options and everyone of them looks wrong, stretched, how can i get out of this?
[12:29] <sentiment> ifup is Sending on   Socket/fallback
[12:29] <sentiment> leftyfb: what's the fallback?
[12:29] <sentiment> same result as the last 10 times I tried it today
[12:29] <leftyfb> sentiment: it means it's not getting an ip address
[12:30] <sentiment> hmm... DHCP problem?
[12:30] <leftyfb> sentiment: try setting a static ip on it just to test
[12:30] <lotuspsychje> effortDee: whats your native screen resolution please?
[12:30] <dave_cuba> Good morning from Cuba
[12:30] <sentiment> it will assign APIPA style address
[12:30] <sentiment> I guess, because the last time it did that
[12:30] <sentiment> leftyfb: ok I will now
[12:30] <leftyfb> sentiment: static
[12:31] <sentiment> ifup hasn't finished yet
[12:31] <leftyfb> CTRL+C it
[12:31] <sentiment> I did, won't stop
[12:31] <sentiment> I wil just close the terminal
[12:31] <leftyfb> sentiment: hold down CTRL+C
[12:32] <sentiment> nope
[12:32] <sentiment> close the terminal. OK now I will set it to static
[12:33] <leftyfb> sentiment: why did you meantion APIPA? If you're using that style ip's (don't) then why would you think dhcp would work?
[12:33] <dave_cuba> someone using ubuntu 18.04
[12:33] <lotuspsychje> dave_cuba: ask your real issue please
[12:33] <leftyfb> !detail | dave_cuba
[12:33] <leftyfb> bah
[12:34] <sentiment> leftyfb: it sets an IP 167.... something, isn't that APIPA? after ifup it does that
[12:34] <sentiment> leftyfb: enp2s15:avahi Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:1a:4d:ff:e9:a6
[12:34] <leftyfb> I know what it is, do not rely on it
[12:34] <dave_cuba> I have problems in the ubuntu 18.04 and the messaging client jabber psi plus
[12:34] <sentiment> leftyfb: that's a new item in the ifconfig
[12:34] <leftyfb> sentiment: What is the ethernet cable plugged into exactly?
[12:35] <sentiment> a TD-LTE router
[12:36] <dave_cuba> the psi plus is not saving my password and every time I have to access my jabber account, I have to be putting the password, this in previous versions of ubuntu did not happen to me, can you give me the answer of the ones I have to do in private
[12:36] <sentiment> ok I assigned an ip address. should I edit the interfaces file to change 'dhcp' to 'static' and then ifdown and up again?
[12:37] <dave_cuba> I do not speak English, I'm writing thanks to the google translator
[12:38] <sentiment> leftyfb: the IP is set, the NIC lights are off
[12:38] <leftyfb> !es | dave_cuba
[12:38] <leftyfb> sentiment: yes
[12:38] <sentiment> ifconfig shows the NIC fine
[12:38] <sentiment> the other entry is gone
[12:38] <leftyfb> sentiment: set to static and ifdown, ifup
[12:38] <sentiment> ok
[12:38] <leftyfb> sentiment: maybe also pastebin your interfaces file to be sure
[12:39] <sentiment> bbl leftyfb
[12:41] <effortDee> lotuspsychje: i dont know
[12:41] <effortDee> my 2nd monitor is fine
[12:41] <gogeta> effortDee, ?
[12:41] <effortDee> 1920 x 1080
[12:42] <effortDee> gogeta: my laptop monitor resolution is stretched and i selected the 5 options i have for it in screen/display and they all look wrong
[12:42] <gogeta> humm
[12:43] <gogeta> sounds like a problwm with gnome scaling
[12:47] <ikonia>  /join #theforeman
[12:47] <ikonia> oops
[12:53] <sentiment> no joy :/
[12:53] <sentiment> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/nNg9ZKwBGX/
[12:54] <sentiment> NIC lights off
[12:54] <BluesKaj> sentiment, running network manager?
[12:54] <sentiment> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/F9jfcHPk3p/
[12:55] <sentiment> Another guy was helping me out
[12:55] <sentiment> leftleg_: u ?
[12:55] <sentiment> forgot its nick
[12:55] <sentiment> I have trouble getting the NIC to work BluesKaj
[12:55] <sentiment> its lights are off
[12:56] <sentiment> I upgraded the kernel. Now set static IP as suggested by the other guy
[12:56] <sentiment> no avail
[12:57] <sentiment> doesn't irsii log by default?
[12:57] <BluesKaj> yes sentiment i see that, have you tried running dhcp in /etc/resolv.conf without NM, but with ifupdown installed ?
[12:57] <sentiment> irssi*
[12:57] <sentiment> hmm let me see...
[12:57] <BluesKaj> rather than ststic ip
[12:57] <BluesKaj> static
[12:58] <leftyfb> sentiment: is this a desktop or server?
[12:58] <leftyfb> BluesKaj: dhcp in resolv.conf?
[12:58] <sentiment> leftyfb: hehe glad you replied :p
[12:58] <leftyfb> BluesKaj: and yes, dhcp was failing. I suggested static to test connectivity
[12:58] <sentiment> desktop
[12:59] <leftyfb> sentiment: then you should be making these changes with network manager, not the interfaces file
[12:59] <sentiment> oh
[12:59] <sentiment> using the GUI?
[12:59] <leftyfb> sentiment: you should delete everything in the interfaces file except the entries for the lo interface and use network manager
[12:59] <leftyfb> sentiment: yes
[13:00] <sentiment> could you please explain a little why?
[13:00] <lotuspsychje> sentiment: just tested same realtek chipset on kernel 4.15, working like a charm here
[13:00] <BluesKaj> yes like so, https://bpaste.net/show/caf139af9eb9 , sentiment
[13:01] <leftyfb> BluesKaj: NM is going to take over, they shouldn't be doing this in e/n/i
[13:01] <BluesKaj> ok nm, not going to debate this one \
[13:01] <BluesKaj> leftyfb, he's all yours
[13:01] <sentiment> lol
[13:03] <sentiment> leftyfb: I can't see the connection in the Network Connections dialog
[13:03] <sentiment> only the wifi ones
[13:04] <sentiment> after deleting those things in interfaces, again ifup down?
[13:04] <sentiment> jesus , I'm breaking a sweat now lol
[13:04] <leftyfb> sentiment: pastebin your interfaces file first, lets get that squared away
[13:05] <sentiment> I assure you, but here it goes:https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/yPM9X3njsS/
[13:06] <BluesKaj> I have one comment, and that is the above post of my /etc/resolv.conf works with my realtek nic as long as ifupdown is installed
[13:06] <leftyfb> ok, reboot. Lets see if it shows up in NM after boot
[13:06] <leftyfb> BluesKaj: what does resolv.conf have to do with getting NM to see the card or be able to set a static ip or get an ip from dhcp?
[13:06] <sentiment> I don't have ifupdown
[13:07] <leftyfb> sentiment: ifupdown is the package name that includes ifup and ifdown
[13:07] <sentiment> isn't resolve.conf for DNS ?
[13:07] <leftyfb> it is
[13:07] <sentiment> seems irrelevant
[13:07] <leftyfb> I agree, for now
[13:08] <sentiment> ok , gonna reboot...
[13:08] <BluesKaj> leftyfb,   I dont use NM, that's the whole point
[13:08] <leftyfb> BluesKaj: we're not at the point of disabling NM completely just yet. Also, we need to be able to get it to the point of being able to ping anything. DNS is like 3 steps away from where we are
[13:09] <leftyfb> BluesKaj: oh, I see, your post is of your interfaces file, not resolv.conf
[13:09] <leftyfb> maybe a typo?
[13:11]  * BluesKaj shakes out the cobwebs ...my apologies yes the interfaces file ...
[13:11] <BluesKaj> leftyfb, thei old brain shrts out soetimes
[13:11] <leftyfb> :)
[13:11] <leftyfb> BluesKaj: then yes, that is a completely valid e/n/i and there's a small possibility we might have to revert to that, but I doubt it
[13:12] <BluesKaj> I have all this stuff in a text file as reference and sometimes I forget the correct paths
[13:13] <sentiment> leftleg_: I set the IP
[13:13] <leftyfb> sentiment: st it where?
[13:13] <sentiment> leftyfb:
[13:13] <sentiment> ipv4 is set to 192.168.1.100 , gateway is 192.168.1.1
[13:14] <sentiment> in the network manager
[13:14] <sentiment> GUI
[13:14] <leftyfb> sentiment: ok, you jumped ahead
[13:14] <leftyfb> sentiment: I assume your NIC is showing up in the GUI now
[13:14] <sentiment> yes, I set its IP
[13:14] <sentiment> something curious...
[13:15] <sentiment> the NIC lights are on until the login screen shows
[13:15] <sentiment> after I reboot
[13:15] <leftyfb> sentiment: don't worry about lights so much just yet
[13:16] <sentiment> leftyfb: the ifcofig has no IP
[13:16] <leftyfb> sentiment: pick the NIC from the NM dropdown
[13:16] <lotuspsychje> sentiment: can you open a tail -f /var/log/syslog while you messing with network?
[13:16] <sentiment> but it says UP
[13:16] <sentiment> lotuspsychje: OK
[13:17] <leftyfb> sentiment: you have to "reinitialize" the interface after changing it's settings
[13:17] <leftyfb> sentiment: click on the NIC from the NM dropdown
[13:17] <sentiment> leftyfb: OK
[13:17] <leftyfb> or it's profile name that you setup
[13:17] <sentiment> so service restart it ?
[13:17] <sentiment> service networkmanager restart after the changes ?
[13:17] <leftyfb> no
[13:17] <leftyfb> sentiment: click on the NIC from the NM dropdown
[13:17] <sentiment> I did
[13:17] <sentiment> I'm ready
[13:18] <leftyfb> ok, now check ifconfig
[13:18] <leftyfb> sentiment: oh, you might have to click disconnect first, then click on the nic/profile again
[13:18] <sentiment> Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:1a:4d:ff:e9:a6
[13:18] <sentiment>           UP BROADCAST MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
[13:19] <leftyfb> sentiment: please don't paste more than 1 line here. Use pastebin for such things. But you could just say you don't have an ip yet
[13:19] <sentiment> OK
[13:19] <sentiment> leftyfb: the NIC isn't connected, the disconnect menu item is grayed out
[13:19] <sentiment> I'm only connected to this WIFI
[13:20] <sentiment> leftyfb: now click the edit button?
[13:20] <sentiment> lotuspsychje: the syslog is open, what should I look for in it ?
[13:21] <sentiment> leftyfb: ok, paste note taken
[13:21] <lotuspsychje> sentiment: its to see whats going wrong there
[13:21] <sentiment> so much text in there though
[13:21] <lotuspsychje> feel free to hastebin us what you have
[13:21] <leftyfb> sentiment: nmcli device show enp2s15
[13:21] <leftyfb> sentiment: pastebin that please
[13:22] <sentiment> so leave the GUI?
[13:22] <leftyfb> just open a terminal
[13:22] <sentiment> ok
[13:23] <sentiment> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/RcV6SWkKYm/
[13:24] <sentiment> I suspect the firmware or driver is fucking up
[13:24] <sentiment> excuse the language
[13:24] <sentiment> freakin herculian config
[13:25] <leftyfb> settle down please, we'll get this
[13:25] <sentiment> ok thank you alot
[13:25] <leftyfb> sentiment: ls /sys/class/net/
[13:26] <hfp> Hi, I am running Ubuntu 18.04 and I can't get the sound to work properly... It will work when I just rebooted and then fail at some point. If I run `pulseaudio -D` it says Daemon startup failed. If I `amixer -D pulse sset Master 5%+`, it shows an error about being unable to connect to pulse audio. I am using i3wm if that makes a difference. I have nothing in my /etc/pulse/client.conf (everything is commented)
[13:26] <hfp> and only `deferred-volume-safety-margin-usec = 1` in /etc/pulse/daemon.conf. How do I troubleshoot this?
[13:26] <sentiment> leftyfb: enp2s15  lo  wlp2s7
[13:28] <sentiment> leftyfb: why doesn't ifconfig show the static IP that I set?
[13:28] <killex> try ifconfig -a
[13:28] <swapgs21>                     _..._
[13:28] <swapgs21>                  .-'     '-.
[13:28] <swapgs21>                 /     _    _\
[13:28] <sentiment> should I restart networkmanager for it to take effect?
[13:29] <sentiment> killex: lol done that hundred times
[13:29] <sentiment> in Windows when I disable the driver, the NIC lights go off
[13:30] <killex> if it isn't showing the IP that usually means that it isn't actually set
[13:30] <sentiment> I think it's the same here... the driver is not working
[13:30] <sentiment> killex: I have set ipv4 using the GUI
[13:30] <sentiment> I can see it
[13:31] <killex> try this: ifconfig | grep 'inet addr'
[13:31] <sentiment> killex: not there.
[13:32] <killex> try taking the interface down then back up
[13:32] <sentiment> can't . leftyfb told me to remove the entries from interfaces file
[13:32] <leftyfb> killex: you're just repeating a lot of the very basic troubleshooting we've already done
[13:32] <killex> ok my bad just joined
[13:32] <sentiment> killex: yeah, I thought you were following...
[13:33] <killex> does dhcp work?
[13:33] <leftyfb> killex: we're not there yet
[13:33] <leftyfb> sentiment: install ethtool and run sudo ethtool -i enp2s15
[13:33] <sentiment> leftyfb: what if I try another router? That sounds silly though
[13:35] <leftyfb> sentiment: Aren't there other devices plugged into this router that have received ip's via dhcp recently?
[13:35] <sentiment> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/49r7bNqjdp/
[13:36] <sentiment> it has just one rj45 port
[13:36] <sentiment> and i connected it to the tv after buying, then to this PC
[13:37] <leftyfb> ok, so it's possible your router isn't even giving a link to the ethernet and certainly possible it's not giving out ip's
[13:37] <sentiment> TV because it was the quickest way to ensure it does work basically
[13:37] <leftyfb> sentiment: can you verify (without rebooting anything) that you can plug a different device into the router and get a link and an ip from it?
[13:37] <sentiment> it works in Windows
[13:38] <leftyfb> sentiment: when was the last time you verified this? Have you rebooted/powercycled the router since?
[13:38] <sentiment> leftyfb: I can try its wifi, and the TV rj45 port, but that requires switching the device off
[13:39] <leftyfb> sentiment: it requires switching what device off?
[13:39] <sentiment> leftyfb: no reboot. tried booting into windows before upgrading the kernel as lotuspsychje suggested
[13:39] <sentiment> and it worked
[13:39] <leftyfb> ok
[13:39] <sentiment> in Windows I tried switching off the WOL shutdown setting
[13:39] <leftyfb> lets continue troubleshooting ubuntu then ....
[13:39] <sentiment> because some people said it might be connected to this issue
[13:40] <leftyfb> sentiment: sudo ethtool -s enp2s15 speed 100 duplex full autoneg off
[13:40] <sentiment> leftyfb: the TV is in another room. I will have to switch off the router
[13:40] <sentiment> leftyfb: I can try the router's WIFI though
[13:40] <leftyfb> no
[13:41] <leftyfb> you already confirmed that earlier this morning you tested from Windows using the same router and ethernet cable that you can get an ip. We're good with that
[13:41] <guiverc> sentiment, your DHCP server isn't limiting itself to just known devices (mac etc) is it??  your 'windows' device may be known, the old-ethernet card may not be on the list...  (comment only; i haven't been following)
[13:44] <leftyfb> guiverc: it's the same device/MAC
[13:44] <leftyfb> guiverc: dual boot
[13:46] <guiverc> sorry leftyfb
[13:55] <Guest8214> HOw do you CLI chmod a directory to be user lvl?
[13:55] <Guest8214> 1001 works for me..
[13:56] <Guest8214> kubuntu@kubuntu:/media$ sudo chmod -R 755 /media/kubuntu/_hom/
[13:56] <Guest8214>  - I can do this. but i need user lvl on this directory.
[14:00] <crackpotmark> Does the 'user' own the directory?
[14:00] <Fuchs> Guest8214: define user lvl. Also be careful with chmod -R, as you can't undo it and it might make a mess
[14:02] <pragmaticenigma> !chown
[14:02] <etraga> Hello!
[14:04] <etraga> I try to create a ".desktop" file for my java application which need to be run with a shell script. My .desktop file work but when application is started I cannot add it to favorite with context menu
[14:04] <etraga> anyone have a solution ?
[14:04] <etraga> has*
[14:04] <hfp> Hi, I am running Ubuntu 18.04 and I can't get the sound to work properly... It will work when I just rebooted and then fail at some point. If I run `pulseaudio -D` it says Daemon startup failed. If I `amixer -D pulse sset Master 5%+`, it shows an error about being unable to connect to pulse audio. I am using i3wm if that makes a difference. I have nothing in my /etc/pulse/client.conf (everything is commented)
[14:04] <etraga> I think is because the "java" application is not the same as the shell script for the system so it doesn't rely .desktop file with jar
[14:04] <hfp> and only `deferred-volume-safety-margin-usec = 1` in /etc/pulse/daemon.conf. How do I troubleshoot this?
[14:05] <Guest8214> i am trying to move my home directory...
[14:05] <Guest8214> but to move it i had to do it as root, now i want it to go back to user.
[14:06] <pragmaticenigma> !chown | Guest8214
[14:06] <vavkamil> hello
[14:07] <Guest8214> so, not chmod, but chown. -
[14:07] <Guest8214> would it be 755 or 700
[14:07] <Guest8214> 655
[14:08] <vavkamil> I just did do-release-upgrade from 16.04 and it seems like I'm stuck in infinite loop on "A new version of /boot/grub/menu.lst is available"
[14:08] <crackpotmark>  Guest8214 Syntax is 'chown user:group directory'
[14:10] <crackpotmark> It's also in the link from ubottu, after the chmod explanation
[14:10] <bcx> Hello, I would like to install firefox-esr 60 on xenial, I used to do so with ppa:jonathonf/firefox-esr-60, miserly I now get version issues, eg libnss3 >=3.34 required while xenial has 3.28.4
[14:11] <bcx> is there any way to get libnss3 >=3.34 on xenial ? thanks !
[14:13] <Guest8214> crackpotmark, so... 1001:wheel?
[14:13] <Guest8214> im just trying to backup my home directory. and its bieng a *$%7
[14:13] <crackpotmark> That depends on your user setup
[14:13] <crackpotmark> The user is kubuntu?
[14:13] <Guest8214> yea
[14:14] <Guest8214> it was working fine, i moved states, and now it wont boot properly.
[14:14] <Guest8214> im just going to reinstall everything, but im trying to backup my home directory. I usually have a /home directory, but i guess i didnt do it this time. so....
[14:15] <crackpotmark>  Guest8214: You don't have /home at all?
[14:15] <Guest8214> yeah
[14:15] <crackpotmark> Are you running a live CD?
[14:16] <Guest8214> i created a /hom directory to rsync to, but its having issues with my VM folder. IDC about that folder, but i had to move it as root because it wasnt taking the command.
[14:16] <qwebirc29280> I do lsmod | grep tun and do not find anything. Then I do a find for tun.ko.gz and still no joy. Is tun module not part of standard ubuntu? I am on Ubuntu 18.04.1 LTS (x86_64)
[14:16] <Guest8214> yeah, im on a LiveUSB right now
[14:16] <lotuspsychje> bcx: we cannot support external ppa's here mate
[14:17] <bcx> lotuspsychje: I'm not talking about supporting external ppas here but about how to install bionic's libnss3 on xenial
[14:17] <crackpotmark> Guest8214: where is the data you want to backup?
[14:18] <lotuspsychje> bcx: we advice not to mix package versions, but you could try !backports perhaps
[14:18] <Guest8214> with live CD, - /media/kubuntu/549198ec-95a0-4558-93db-801e584390bd/home
[14:18] <tsglove> Hey guys, network question.  Is /etc/network/interface still the way to config a network in an ubuntu machine?       I ask because I installed a fresh 18.04 VM, and installed ¨Zabbix¨ on it.   Yet now, zabbix is telling me ¨netplan¨ is the way to config the network.
[14:19] <Guest8214> but- actually, i gotta go to work.
[14:19] <tsglove> Not a fan of netplan... I know how to use   /interfaces
[14:19] <Guest8214> i didnt notice the time, my liveCD didn tupdate the freaking time properly
[14:19] <Guest8214> thanks for trying.. ill get on it again later.
[14:20] <crackpotmark> Guest8214: np, anytime
[14:41] <pencil2> My dual boot system used to ask me if I wanted windows or Linux.  That quit working.  Now I have to tap f9 when I boot up to get Linux.  How do I fix this minor annoyance?
[14:43] <lotuspsychje> pencil2: you can try sudo update-grub perhaps
[14:43] <lotuspsychje> pencil2: if that doesnt work, try editing grub
[14:43] <ducasse> tsglove: see netplan.io for instructions and examples
[14:44] <lotuspsychje> !grub | pencil2
[14:44] <pencil2> update-grub command not found
[14:44] <tsglove> ducasse, thanks!
[14:44] <ducasse> tsglove: if you insist on doing it the old way, install ifupdown
[14:45] <tsglove> ducasse, yeah, I saw.
[14:45] <leftyfb> pencil2: what version of ubuntu are you running?
[14:45] <tsglove> I am working with netplan now, as it's just one machine.
[14:46] <tsglove> How can I check what DNS server is the machine using?
[14:46] <tsglove> Can I do it with nmcli?
[14:47] <leftyfb> tsglove: nmcli device show|grep DNS
[14:47] <pragmaticenigma> tsglove: The machine itself is using dnsmasq as a local cache (if this is a standard default install)
[14:47] <tsglove> leftyfb, well, shoot.  That's what I thought.   Yet I'm not getting any DNS line
[14:48] <pragmaticenigma> tsglove: so looking up what your DNS provider is, will return a local machine address
[14:48] <tsglove> oh really?
[14:48] <tsglove> ahh
[14:48] <tsglove> that explains that
[14:51] <tsglove> gosh darn this netplan is... odd
[14:55] <tsglove> ¨Netplan network configuration had been first introduced to Ubuntu 18.04 LTS Bionic Beaver. It is available to all new Ubuntu 18.04 installations. ¨     ----------- so netplan is the new way to go?
[14:56] <lotuspsychje> !netplan | tsglove start here
[14:57] <tsglove> lotuspsychje, any idea if the same applies over in CentOS?  Or does CentOS7 still use typical /etc/network/interfaces
[14:57] <tsglove> ?
[15:02] <lotuspsychje> tsglove: try in the centos channel mate
[15:03] <CoolerZ> texlive-full is taking forever to install even though i have 1 Gbps internet
[15:03] <tsglove> Yeah, I checked, yet it´s not running netplan
[15:03] <CoolerZ> Constantly [waiting for headers]
[15:03] <tsglove> I can see the simplicity in netplan... yet... changes (!!!!).
[15:04] <tsglove> Althought I was resistant to systemd for a long time, and in the past years, I have become a convert.  I actually like it.
[15:04] <blackroot> if you have a raid1, and you destroy the array without touching any data, would you still have all data on both disks?
[15:05] <law_> hello
[15:07] <tsglove> o/
[15:09] <law_> vous avez des tchats pour papoter ? personne ne parle ici :(
[15:09] <tsglove> Yes!
[15:10] <lotuspsychje> !fr | law_
[15:12] <CoolerZ> why i try the 1st command given here http://www.iasptk.com/ubuntu-fix-broken-package-best-solution/
[15:12] <CoolerZ> i get "the update command takes no arguments"
[15:13] <CoolerZ> sudo apt-get update –fix-missing
[15:17] <sveinse> Is it possible to set different scalings and/or DPIs on screen in gnome? 18.04? I've got two 4k screens, one 15" and one 32" and I need bigger scaling on the smaller to make the fonts large enough
[15:17] <CoolerZ> help !! i need this package for ubuntu 18.04 https://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/texlive-math-extra
[15:18] <blackroot> sveinse: i think you would have to lower the resolution on the smaller screen then. if it works
[15:19] <sveinse> blackroot: yeah that is possible. Waste of resolution thou
[15:25] <ducasse> sveinse: you could try with xrandr, 'xrandr --output foo --scale bar', but i don't know if it will work
[15:27] <CoJaBo> Is it normal that almost none of the advertised features of LXD seem to actually work at all?
[15:29] <CoJaBo> I can't really envision any kind of usecase that could possibly fit the restrictions I'm encountering in suspending containers; am I doing something wrong? Or is this feature just vaporware?
[15:30] <ducasse> CoJaBo: try #lxcontainers
[15:33] <sveinse> ducasse: no that doesn't work. It only results in weird viewport and effects on the screens
[15:34] <eeos> Crakila: what about Franz?
[15:34] <CoJaBo> ducasse: It seems to exist, but noone has been there for several weeks now
[15:37] <ducasse> CoJaBo: there's 200 people in there afaict
[15:43] <effortDee> how do i get Firefox to open the downloads folder when i click the folder icon on my downloads within FF?
[15:43] <effortDee> ubuntu 16.04
[15:43] <CoJaBo> ducasse: But none speak :/
[15:44] <laguette> HI  ! I've just installed the 16.04LTS on an Intel NUC 2.4GHz with NVMe SDD, and the boot is very slow (more than 1 min).
[15:45] <laguette> Is that normal that this version performs very slowly compared to previous ?
[15:45] <laguette> NB  :A black screen lasts for more than 30 seconds
[15:55] <leftyfb> effortDee: maybe try #firefox?
[15:59] <waterxx> can i ask for help with lubuntu here or is it just ubuntu?
[16:00] <waterxx> the lubuntu channel seems very low activity so
[16:01] <crackpotmark> waterxx: by all means ask away
[16:01] <crackpotmark> This channel supports official flavours too
[16:01] <donpete> Guys, how ya doing today and any hot topic?
[16:01] <waterxx> so I installed it on a laptop from 2007 and have graphics driver problems. here is some more info about it: https://pastebin.com/ZmhgeYB2
[16:01] <waterxx> I cant open video files even
[16:01] <waterxx> the default player just closes
[16:02] <waterxx> however it works to stream things on the web, but the audio and video are both choppy
[16:03] <donpete> test
[16:05] <waterxx> all im trying to find out is if Im fucked due to proprietary drivers, or if there is a way to get my graphics to work properly.
[16:05] <donpete> Hi guys, anyone set up a Webserver in Ubuntu yet and if so, how is it?
[16:06] <leftyfb> donpete: that's not a valid support question. Try #ubuntu-offtopic for chit-chat/surveys
[16:07] <leftyfb> donpete: If you need help setting up a webserver on ubuntu, you can try #ubuntu-server
[16:07] <ddelony> Is there a specific channel for Ubuntu on WSL?
[16:07] <leftyfb> !wsl | ddelony
[16:07] <ddelony> leftyfb: Thanks.
[16:08] <compdoc> ddelony, its just command line stuff. dont think you can run apps, etc
[16:09] <ddelony> compdoc: I'm aware, but people have apparently gotten X apps to run through third party X servers.
[16:10] <ddelony> I'm quite familiar with the Linux command line already. :-)
[16:10] <donpete> I didn't know if it was off support but still if you aren't too full of it, give me an idea as to  the difference in Webserver setup in Ubuntu compared to Windows
[16:11] <nacc> donpete: totally offtopic
[16:11] <nacc> donpete: you want ##linux, maybe, #ubuntu-offtopic, dunno
[16:12] <Walker> Hey guys, I have a problem with logging in to a fresh install of ubuntu server on a dell poweredge r610. Any things I can look for?
[16:13] <Walker> I can log in but I get logged out immediately.
[16:13] <leftyfb> Walker: desktop or command line?
[16:13] <donpete> Well another question,  is it possible to setup a virtual windows on ubuntu 18.04 without a VTX enabled bios?
[16:13] <Walker> Happens from server console and also from ssh which I installed during installation
[16:13] <Walker> Command line
[16:14] <Walker> Also tried several versions of ubuntu server (16.04.1 16.04.5 18.04.1(
[16:14] <leftyfb> Walker: you get logged out immediately when logging in through the console?
[16:14] <Walker> right
[16:14] <Walker> The welcome message is shown
[16:14] <Walker> And then immediately disconnect
[16:14] <nacc> donpete: 'virtual windows'? do you mean windows in a VM?
[16:14] <Walker> Or back to login prompt
[16:14] <leftyfb> Walker: try logging in and immediately unplugging your keyboard
[16:15] <donpete> Lol.. yeah.....exactly! Windows in a vm
[16:15] <leftyfb> donpete: I'm pretty sure you need VTX support to run Windows VM's
[16:15] <nacc> donpete: ... i wouldn't wnt to run windows without acceleration ina  vm
[16:16] <leftyfb> donpete: Are you thinking of running Windows in a VM just to be able to run a webserver?
[16:16] <nacc> donpete: i wouldn't want to run *any* vm without acceleration
[16:16] <Walker> leftyfb: no difference
[16:16] <leftyfb> Walker: I've never heard of such a thing
[16:16] <Walker> Keyboard should not make a difference since it doesn't work from ssh either
[16:16] <donpete> That's what I thought.... but you guys arent answering any questions but rather fulling around
[16:16] <kahidna> you can run windows on vm without VTX
[16:16] <nacc> donpete: don't be rude.
[16:17] <nacc> kahidna: but would you actually want to? :)
[16:17] <kahidna> but you can only use single core
[16:17] <leftyfb> donpete: we've answered all of your questions so far
[16:17] <nacc> kahidna: without vtx, it's emulated, so using a core or not seems irrelevant.
[16:17] <Walker> even changing tty to a different one on login makes no difference
[16:18] <donpete> so, what do you use in order to run windows  without vtx?
[16:18] <leftyfb> Walker: I'm running ubuntu 16.04 on multiple r610's and don't have this issue
[16:18] <Walker> I did too, so its very odd.
[16:18] <kahidna> I have vm with installed windows, but its only to maintain my printer :P
[16:18] <leftyfb> donpete: Why do you need to run Windows in a VM without VTX support?
[16:18] <Walker> It also ran on that same machine weeks ago
[16:18] <nacc> donpete: you are assuming any of us run windows.
[16:19] <Walker> And I didnt change any parts
[16:19] <leftyfb> Walker: sounds like a weird hardware issue then. Maybe try upgrading all the BIOS/firmware?
[16:19] <donpete> You tell me..
[16:19] <leftyfb> donpete: Why do you need to run Windows in a VM without VTX support?
[16:19] <hggdh> donpete: enough, please stop
[16:19] <Walker> Will check later again :)
[16:19] <jehorn> I've done it with QEMU, but it was terrible. I don't run Windows anymore though so.
[16:19] <Walker> Trying to init all drives (even if they are not used at all)
[16:19] <donpete> Why do you need to know?
[16:20] <leftyfb> donpete: because you are asking for help
[16:20] <Walker> Could it be some kind of read only mode?
[16:20] <ioria> Walker, more a permission issue
[16:20] <Walker> So it can't save the session and throws me out immediately?
[16:20] <donpete> And because you already provided some answers
[16:21] <leftyfb> donpete: ok, go to #windows for further support. Good luck.
[16:21] <ioria> Walker, save session ? what you mean ?
[16:22] <Walker> isnt the login creating some session file upon login?
[16:22] <leftyfb> Walker: a default install of ubuntu will not have the issue you are explaining. Especially across multiple LTS versions of ubuntu. Your issue is outside of ubuntu from what I can tell.
[16:23] <Walker> Okay I will look into that soon.
[16:23] <kahidna> walker : I've also experience throwing back after typing username and password on ubuntu. and after do some research I'm running out of / partition
[16:23] <ioria> Walker, just to be sure :
[16:23] <ioria> Walker, ls -dl /home/$USER
[16:24] <Walker> How am I supposed to run any command if I can't even log in? :o
[16:24] <kahidna> you can use CLI mode
[16:24] <kahidna> ctrl+alt+f1
[16:24] <ioria> Walker, recovery
[16:24] <leftyfb> kahidna: they are
[16:24] <Walker> Ahh okay, I don't have any desktop on the server ;)
[16:24] <Walker> Will try in a couple of minutes
[16:24] <Walker> Takes some time to reboot :D
[16:25] <kahidna> aw, I'm just telling my experience with desktop
[16:25] <leftyfb> yeah, stupid lifecycle stuff, takes forever
[16:25] <leftyfb> kahidna: they're not running desktop
[16:25] <kahidna> sorry, my bad
[16:25] <Walker> That were the posts I also found about desktop, but that didn't help me ^^
[16:26] <nacc> you can boot into recovery on server too, of course and then check the disk from there
[16:26] <leftyfb> Walker: you could try recovery mode and check disk space, but I'm going with a hardware issue and you should look into upgrading bios/firmware
[16:26] <Walker> Thanks guys, will check those things and come back soon :)
[16:27] <Walker> Could this also happen if one volume group is still initialising?
[16:27] <waterxx> is the built in media player in lubuntu any good or should i install vlc?
[16:28] <waterxx> currently the videos wont even open :)
[16:28] <Walker> Just to make sure I don't run into that kind of problem later on
[16:29] <jehorn> I wouldn't say the default media player in Lubuntu is bad, but VLC is a pretty awesome. I use it anyway.
[16:31] <jehorn> You might have better luck playing videos with VLC, It wouldn't hurt to try it.
[16:32] <ddelony> If VLC can't play it, nobody can.
[16:34] <kahidna> waterxx: try gnome-mplayer
[16:35] <waterxx> kahidna I think thats the one im using, if it is the default for lubuntu
[16:37] <waterxx> im gonna try vlc and see if there is any differance
[16:38] <kahidna> yes, for the alternative you can use vlc,
[16:38] <kahidna> you can install more codec for the vlc
[16:38] <waterxx> im used to windows so doing anything on linux takes a while for me. since im noob
[16:38] <waterxx> like even connecting my usb and place files on desktop took me a while lol
[16:39] <kahidna> no worries, everybody was noob before became expert
[16:39] <waterxx> ^^
[16:39] <waterxx> but it gave new life to my laptop, much faster than before
[16:39] <kahidna> for codec or audio/video library, usually I install this package "ubuntu-restricted-extras"
[16:40] <kahidna> yes, same as here. I feel my linux with intel atom run faster than core I3 with windows 7
[16:43] <waterxx> btw kahidna do I need antivirus or firewall or anything? i heard you dont need it on linux
[16:44] <deepend> > a stop job is running for availability of block devices
[16:44] <deepend> 1min 30seconds before finally shutting down
[16:44] <deepend> on server 18.04
[16:44] <deepend> anyone know what this is about?
[16:45] <kahidna> waterxx : so far I haven't install any antivirus on my linux machine, but I don't know you need it or not.
[16:45] <jehorn> waterxx: antivirus, Not really, there is one called ClamAV but I don't use it. I've been using GNU/Linux since 1995 and I've yet to encounter a virus on any system I've had.
[16:45] <waterxx> yea i only plan on web browsing and watching videos, not open any suspicious files
[16:46] <kahidna> waterxx : then you already safe, for now, :D
[16:58] <noonehere4u22> |                                  ___
[17:10] <G33kDad> Is this a good place to ask a question about Ubuntu Core, or is there a specific channel? TIA
[17:11] <Sven_vB> is it expected sudo behavior that the password remembering feature applies only inside the same terminal?
[17:14] <Sven_vB> jehorn, >> I've yet to encounter a virus on any system I've had. << how would you know you have one?
[17:14] <Sven_vB> not all of them play their theme song ;)
[17:27] <hggdh> G33kDad: perhaps @snappy ?
[17:31] <G33kDad> @hggdh as a user name or channel ?
[17:32] <hggdh> G33kDad: channel: /join #snappy
[17:36] <G33kDad> hggdh: thanks!
[17:36] <hggdh> G33kDad: yw
[17:55] <jeffree> survey: is anyone else experiencing the audio delay? Say I'm watching a video and pause it, wait ten seconds, unpause, there will be a delay of a few seconds before audio starts playing.
[17:55] <jeffree> this happens with all audio sources
[18:09] <nakul_> Are you using any kind of bluetooth speakers of any kind?
[18:25] <kaspi> do you know if it's possible at all to play WoW in ubuntu?
[18:36] <jeffree> no bluetooth speaker. my speakers are connected to the monitor which is displayport connected
[18:51] <bluesmonk> my ubuntu 18.04 suddenly freezes, and I'm trying to figure out why. How does a boot look like in journalctl? to look right before that
[18:51] <bluesmonk> plus, what other things can I do to check? it freezes without any kind of particular cpu load, and I have to reset the pc
[18:52] <A|an> I've just installed VirtualBox (the non-OSE version) but it didn't place a launcher icon in the application menu...how do I do that manually?
[18:52] <A|an> It will launch from the command line.
[18:53] <jeffree> A|an: half answer: you need a .desktop file in the place where your os expects them to be
[18:54] <A|an> okay...a half-answer is better than no answer:)...thanks
[18:56] <Ben64> A|an: did you check everywhere? mine is in system tools
[18:56] <bluesmonk> so journalctl -b-1 shows the last boot. Can I get help understanding my logs? http://termbin.com/ww76 the last lines bug me
[18:57] <A|an> Ben64: I looked pretty thoroughly...I've just done a mate-panel --replace...waiting to see if that helped
[18:58] <bluesmonk> so it seems my pc is overheating basically
[18:58] <raidghost> What is it about UBUNTU and MSI mainboard(ethernet) and just stop working without ANY reason?
[19:03] <waterxx> i just did this sudo apt-get install vlc , am I doing it right?
[19:04] <waterxx> nice it seems i can play videos now
[19:04] <waterxx> not sure why the default media player couldnt
[19:06] <grazfather> How do I find out which ppa this is on: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/bionic/+source/tpm2-tools
[19:07] <qwerty_> !wifi
[19:07] <A|an> Ben64: For the record, running mate-panel --replace fixed the problem of no launcher icon in the application menu...assuming I didn't overlook it...it's in System Tools, as you described (I don't think I missed it, though)
[19:07] <qwerty_> thanks :)
[19:07] <qwerty_> bye
[19:07] <leftyfb> grazfather: tpm2-tools is available in both 16.04 and 18.04
[19:08] <grazfather> apt cannot find it
[19:08] <nacc> grazfather: are you looking for a version not provied by your distro?
[19:08] <grazfather> after apt update
[19:08] <grazfather> it's not provided by my distro( on the live cd)
[19:08] <nacc> grazfather: tpm2-tools is the srcpkg
[19:08] <nacc> grazfather: what version of ubuntu?
[19:08] <leftyfb> grazfather: you need to enable the universe repo
[19:08] <grazfather> bionic
[19:08] <nacc> ok, what leftyfb said
[19:08] <grazfather> how do I do that
[19:08] <leftyfb> !universe | grazfather
[19:08] <grazfather> cool ty
[19:09] <waterxx> is it possible to make the start menu text and icons bigger on lubuntu, its so tiny
[19:09] <grazfather> that did the trick! Just had to add universe, and now I know what to look at on the repo page (universe in parens)
[19:10] <grazfather> thank you all
[19:11] <waterxx> nvm found it
[19:13] <grazfather> hah and the version is too old -_-
[19:16] <leftyfb> !latest | grazfather
[19:16] <leftyfb> grazfather: also, it's only 2 years old
[19:16] <grazfather> leftyfb: Not complaining, building from source
[19:17] <Aaron> !ppa
[19:17] <grazfather> I'm running a livecd, but installing a lot. Is there a way to 'commit' these changes?
[19:17] <leftyfb> no
[19:17] <leftyfb> not with your current environment anyway
[19:17] <leftyfb> !persistent | grazfather
[19:19] <grazfather> Yeah I know I can customize it, I meant more whether there was a way to commit the overlayfs or whatever this is since I'm 'too late' to install it on this run, but ty
[19:29] <lotuspsychje> raidghost: network card chipset please?
[19:30] <lotuspsychje> bluesmonk: what this clean install?
[19:30] <jake94> Evening all! I'm trying to calculate the memory usage of PHP based on this: https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/t3t4cTjZgw/ do I just add all the rows for RES?
[19:31] <lotuspsychje> bluesmonk: you have a lot of MS python errors in syslog and cpu going above treshold
[19:33] <qwebirc47449> hello friends, I need to install build tools offline.  How can I use my live USB as a source to install those those tools?
[19:34] <qwebirc47449> I need to do this in order to install a wifi driver
[19:40] <lotuspsychje> qwebirc47449: you can st your cdrom/usb as source in software&sources to grab packages from your installl media
[19:40] <lotuspsychje> qwebirc47449: sometime its needed to install wifi driver like that, broadcom for example in the /pool dir
[19:40] <waterxx> lotuspsychje if u still wanna help me out i did the command u told me yesterday
[19:40] <waterxx> https://pastebin.com/Va5Pw6bX
[19:40] <lotuspsychje> waterxx: what was it about?
[19:40] <waterxx> lotuspsychje it was about my old laptop graphics driver
[19:41] <waterxx> my video/audio is choppy
[19:41] <waterxx> i run everything default lubuntu now
[19:41] <waterxx> 18.04
[19:41] <lotuspsychje> waterxx: for some reason the ati card brand doesnt show, but radeon driver seems loaded
[19:41] <lotuspsychje> waterxx: video on youtube or vlc local?
[19:43] <waterxx> I just tried with vlc, 1080p was rly bad, but 720 seemd a bit better
[19:43] <waterxx> still the audio is cracking/chopping
[19:43] <lotuspsychje> waterxx: 1080p on a lower system can be choppy, normal
[19:43] <waterxx> ok
[19:43] <lotuspsychje> waterxx: you can try smplayer, thats a little lighter then vlc
[19:44] <lotuspsychje> try the same 1080p
[19:44] <qwebirc47449> I see that CD can be enabled, but not USB. Tried adding volume but it errored out
[19:45] <waterxx> ok trying youtube now on 720p audio really choppy
[19:45] <lotuspsychje> qwebirc47449: cdrom in this case is the same as install media
[19:45] <waterxx> video slight lag
[19:45] <waterxx> For an AMD/ATI video card you have to stick to the default open source driver. Because the closed AMD Catalyst (fglrx) drivers are not compatible with Ubuntu 16.04.x.
[19:45] <waterxx> i read that on this page: https://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/first-lubuntu , maybe there is no hope to get it better
[19:46] <lotuspsychje> !info lubuntu-restricted-extras | waterxx
[19:46] <waterxx> lotuspsychje what do i type to install that sm player? sry im noob
[19:46] <qwebirc47449> @lotuspsychje OK, so if I have CD enabled and I attempt apt install build-tools dkims it should work right?
[19:46] <lotuspsychje> waterxx: sudo apt install smplayer
[19:46] <sirriffsalothp> I cannot for the life of me work out what's clogging my package-list so I can't update/install freely. I keep getting that I have broken packages, but whatever I do I can't pinpoint what it is, and I've tried all the usual, fix broken packages, sudo apt-get -f install et cetera... Any more in-deptch advice?
[19:46] <lotuspsychje> qwebirc47449: sudo apt update first
[19:47] <qwebirc47449> ok thanks!  I'll try and report back
[19:47] <lotuspsychje> sirriffsalothp: did you add external ppa's to your system?
[19:47] <sirriffsalothp> lotuspsychje: yeah?
[19:47] <raidghost> lotuspsychje: 16:00.0 Ethernet controller: Qualcomm Atheros Killer E2500 Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev 10), but it seems to be more than just a nic issue. Since the machine is NOT responding, Tried to connect hdmi to tv. But nada respondos
[19:48] <lotuspsychje> sirriffsalothp: we dont support them here mate, we reccomend to revert your system back to vanilla ubuntu with !ppapurge
[19:48] <raidghost> So, might be heat issue, pasta removed and pasta readded
[19:49] <sirriffsalothp> lotuspsychje: humm.. will that potentially shred my system? I'm willing to take them out just to see what's causing the problem, but only if my system as it is remains intact
[19:49] <lotuspsychje> sirriffsalothp: ppapurge will indeed remove your packages from the ppa
[19:50] <lotuspsychje> sirriffsalothp: dependencie hell is caused by adding external ppa's in many cases
[19:50] <sirriffsalothp> lotuspsychje: I figured as much...
[19:50] <sirriffsalothp> lotuspsychje: can one not disable all of the non-vanilla ones and see if that helps?
[19:51] <waterxx> wow the 1080 is smooth now lotuspsychje but audio still bad
[19:52] <lotuspsychje> sirriffsalothp: yes sure, thats the idea, to remove the non-official ppa's
[19:52] <lotuspsychje> sirriffsalothp: dont remove the official ubuntu repos right
[19:52] <sirriffsalothp> lotuspsychje: but I suppose that doesn't help if the actual ppa-packages are still present?
[19:53] <lotuspsychje> sirriffsalothp: they need both cleaned up, purge packages and purge ppa's
[19:53] <lotuspsychje> !ppapurge | sirriffsalothp
[19:54] <lotuspsychje> waterxx: i think on a lower lubuntu system, best to stick with 720p
[19:54] <waterxx> yep its from 2007 but was pretty high end back then. thanks for the help
[19:54] <lotuspsychje> waterxx: install the restricted extras too, for codecs
[19:54] <Ascavasaion> I know this is not the correct channel, please direct me to the correct one if possible.  I password protected a zip file a while back, I only remmeber (I think) a few characters of the password.  Could someone help me or direct me where I could find help to crack a password which I only know some of it?
[19:54] <waterxx> lotuspsychje: yep did that
[19:55] <lotuspsychje> Ascavasaion: cracking stuff is not for freenode mate
[19:55] <Ascavasaion> lotuspsychje: I understand the ethical side of it... but I remembersome of it.
[19:55] <lotuspsychje> Ascavasaion: best seek pentesting tools on internet
[19:56] <Ascavasaion> lotuspsychje: Okay :-(
[19:56] <lotuspsychje> Ascavasaion: if you run ubuntu, the official repos have also pentesting tools
[19:57] <Ascavasaion> lotuspsychje: i HAVE TRIED FCRACKZIP, BUT IT IS WAY OVER THE TOP OF YM HEAD.
[19:57] <Ascavasaion> Oops, excuse caps.
[19:57] <Voziv> Hello. I've done a "sudo usermod -aG docker voziv". Even after a reboot if I type "groups" in the terminal it only shows "voziv". However if I type "groups voziv" it shows me in the docker group
[19:58] <Voziv> Running 16.04
[19:59] <lotuspsychje> raidghost: take a good look in your dmesg/ syslog
[20:00] <darek> Hi. I have problem with changing display manager on 18.04. running "sudo dpkg-reconfigure ssdm" gives me error that ssdm is not installed. But when I try to install ssdm by "sudo apt install ssdm" I am getting that there is no such package. I have just installed kubuntu-session using tasksel (during installation tasksel did not ask me to change display manager too)
[20:02] <hggdh> darek: perhaps you meant sddm instead of ssdm?
[20:02] <darek> hggdh: haha :) that was the case, thanks!
[20:02] <hggdh> darek: welcome
[20:04] <geirha> Voziv: run  newgrp docker   then   groups   again in the same terminal window
[20:09] <Voziv> geirha: Shows docker as the group, however opening a new terminal after that causes the issue to reappear
[20:09] <geirha> Voziv: then I don't think you've actually rebooted since running that usermod
[20:09] <raidghost> lotuspsychje: Have checked dmesg and syslog
[20:09] <geirha> Voziv: perhaps you only suspended or hibernated
[20:09] <raidghost> Any possible output line to make timestamp?
[20:10] <geirha> Voziv: anyway, rebooting is unecessary, just log out and back in
[20:10] <Voziv> geirha: ran "sudo reboot now" twice in a row
[20:10] <sirriffsalothp> lotuspsychje: lol.. just had to get the dependencies manually, cheers
[20:10] <hggdh> Voziv: what happens if you run sudo adduser vosic docker ?
[20:11] <lotuspsychje> raidghost: timestamp?
[20:15] <SailorHaumea11> |                                  ___
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[20:28] <Xard> on ubuntu 18.04 seems like my built-in bluetooth does kind of register but bluetoothctl claims that "No default controller available"
[20:28] <Xard> dmesg reveals that: there should be bluetooth adapther at usb 1-2: idVendor=0b05, idProduct=185c, Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3, Product: Bluetooth Radio, Manufacturer: Realtek
[20:39] <Richard_Cavell> Hello everyone. I have ubuntu 16.04 running on the metal on a desktop. I want to clone it to an external hard disk for backup purposes.  (Including hidden files).  What's the best tool?
[20:49] <leftyfb> Richard_Cavell: clonezilla
[20:49] <leftyfb> Richard_Cavell: you're not doing it while it's running
[20:51] <Xard> Richard_Cavell: for file based copy operation "rsync -avxHAX --numeric-ids --exclude=lost+found" copies only current volume files preserving hardlinks, attributes, ACLs and uses numeric ids for determining file permissions while skipping ext4 "lost+found"
[20:51] <Sven_vB> is it expected sudo behavior that the password remembering feature applies only inside the same terminal?
[20:53] <JimBuntu> Sven_vB, I would hope so! Otherwise someone could gain root simply by being logged in as you and trying a sudo command until they get access
[20:53] <Sven_vB> thanks.
[20:53] <leftyfb> Xard: that is not a clone and will not function as one at all
[20:53] <Richard_Cavell> leftyfb, I can't boot this device from an external USB stick (it's an old iMac with EFI that doesn't like non-OS X) so is there a way of doing the clone from within Ubuntu?
[20:54] <JimBuntu> Sven_vB, well, I may have jumped the gun there, I was thinking connections not really local access virtual terms
[20:54] <leftyfb> Richard_Cavell: negative
[20:54] <leftyfb> Richard_Cavell: if it's an old iMac, then it's unlikely it's running anything modern enough or even supported for you to worry about cloning elsewhere
[20:54] <Sven_vB> JimBuntu, in my case, terminals in screen, the terminal multiplexer.
[20:55] <Sven_vB> I'm using screen (the terminal multiplexer) to spawn several programs in their own window, all as root, using a quite crude hack to avoid having to type my sudo password in each screen. what would be a better way than this?: set random password for user root-voucher, extend account expiry date to today, and disable the account after a few seconds.
[20:56] <JimBuntu> Sven_vB, yes, multiple 'terminal' windows will all need to enter their own password to sudo
[20:56] <Sven_vB> oh aund using sudo on root-voucher
[20:56] <JimBuntu> Sven_vB, have you considered adding your user to the /etc/sudoers file so that it never requires password entry? I know, I know... but it's an option
[20:56] <L72g5sSq> i have two machines, host1 and host2. host1 has nfs server and host2 mounts host1 via fstab. when i reboot host2, sometimes host2 won't mount host1 and i get a permission denied error unless i reboot nfs server on host1. what's up with this?
[20:57] <leftyfb> Sven_vB: or create a sudoers file to allow running certain programs/scripts with sudo without asking for the password. Or just run the script as root
[20:57] <leftyfb> L72g5sSq: look at your logs
[20:58] <leftyfb> Sven_vB: may I ask what's the purpose behind all this?
[20:58] <leftyfb> Sven_vB: what programs need to run in the foreground in different screen windows all as root?
[20:59] <Richard_Cavell> Xard, that rsync command you gave - will it preserve hidden files/directories?
[20:59] <leftyfb> Richard_Cavell: yes, but it will not be a bootable clone
[21:00] <Xard> Richard_Cavell: it's not a clone, but file based operation which provides great flexibility but some caveats
[21:00] <lol123> Hello all, I am trying to run a program with python shelve module in my Ubuntu VM
[21:00] <lol123> It keeps returning this error: Traceback (most recent call last):   File "app.py", line 35, in <module>     db = shelve.open('example')
[21:00] <lol123> '_gdbm.error: [Errno 11] Resource temporarily unavailable'
[21:00] <Xard> it does indeed copy all soft links, hard links and hidden files and gives you the option to do versioned backups where only changes are stored between dates
[21:00] <lol123> But it runs fine on my local system
[21:00] <lol123> anyone know why?
[21:01] <Sven_vB> leftyfb, it's an improvised dashboard for various stuff, some of which needs root currently (e.g. iotop and l2ping) but I could try drilling down on whether they have to run 1) directly in the terminal and 2) whether I can set it up with sudoers in a secure way.
[21:01] <Xard> however, fstab UUID mounts need to be adjusted manually
[21:02] <leftyfb> Sven_vB: maybe just run them each in the background using a script and output some stats to an actual dashboard for you to monitor?
[21:04] <Sven_vB> I could probably get security properties similar to the current setup by using secret random filenames and deleting the file really quick after it has been opened for reading by the display program.
[21:04] <Richard_Cavell> Xard, If I created that rsync backup, and then reinstalled Ubuntu on my desktop and rsynced back the other way, would it work to restore my system?
[21:04] <Richard_Cavell> (Note that it's really my home directory that I'm interested in)
[21:04] <leftyfb> that would be bad
[21:04] <leftyfb> Richard_Cavell: then only backup your home directory
[21:04] <leftyfb> and restore that, that'll be fine
[21:05] <Richard_Cavell> leftyfb, command please?
[21:05] <Sven_vB> so it sounds like there's no easy way to transfer sudo's trust from one terminal to another?
[21:05] <leftyfb> Richard_Cavell: rsync -av /home/$USER/ /path/to/backup/
[21:05] <leftyfb> Sven_vB: no, that would undermine the whole thing
[21:05] <leftyfb> Sven_vB: it's not the right way to go about it anyway
[21:06] <Sven_vB> leftyfb, how would it undermine security if root told some sudo process that's currently asking for the password, to skip it and allow login just this time?
[21:07] <leftyfb> Sven_vB: if it's "just this time" then you can type in the the password
[21:07] <leftyfb> Sven_vB: but it's not "just this time" , that's the whole point
[21:07] <Sven_vB> leftyfb, yeah in my scenario I already had the password typed in to sudo the setup script.
[21:08] <leftyfb> Sven_vB: it's "just this time" times X programs, times X times you'll need to run this script
[21:08] <leftyfb> Sven_vB: it's not possible and even if it were, not recommended
[21:09] <leftyfb> Sven_vB: there's better ways to get a dashboard to monitor which is your end goal
[21:09] <Sven_vB> ok, I'll read more about sudoers then.
[21:09] <Sven_vB> yeah I'm still hoping for a lazy solution. :)
[21:09] <leftyfb> Sven_vB: nagios is easy to setup
[21:10] <leftyfb> or scripting your own, but not the way you're trying to do it
[21:11] <spinningcat> i have nvidia gt 425m
[21:11] <spinningcat> can i use that properiatry driver?
[21:11] <spinningcat> or is there a problem it seems debian have a problem with it
[21:14] <insearch> Hey, hello ! :)
[21:14] <insearch> How are you ?
[21:15] <spinningcat> good
[21:15] <spinningcat> how about you?
[21:15] <insearch> I am well too :)
[21:16] <insearch> Don't mind me asking questions unrelated to ubuntu ?
[21:16] <insearch> Actually networking related..
[21:18] <spinningcat> someone may know about that
[21:18] <nacc> insearch: if it's unrelated to ubuntu, go elsewhere
[21:18] <nacc> !alis | insearch
[21:24] <azizLIGHT> im about to update nvidia graphics, but want to backup current version first in case of problems. i cannot find the deb file in /var/cache/apt/ tho
[21:24] <azizLIGHT> archives/
[21:25] <azizLIGHT> where do i get this deb file from then
[21:27] <nacc> azizLIGHT: you might need to download it manually -- not all debs are kept forever
[21:27] <spinningcat> ubuntu has good support for nvidia
[21:27] <spinningcat> debian has some problems
[21:27] <nacc> spinningcat: are you talking to somoene in particular? do you have a question?
[21:27] <spinningcat> when you install nvidia-driver, it breaks the system
[21:28] <nacc> spinningcat: random comments, please go to #ubuntu-offtopic.
[21:28] <spinningcat> it is not random
[21:28] <spinningcat> i just wonder ubuntu has good support for nvidia
[21:28] <nacc> debian is also offtopic here
[21:28] <azizLIGHT> see im using nvidia 384.130 from the grpahics drivers ppa
[21:28] <nacc> spinningcat: ok, so that's your question?
[21:28] <spinningcat> yes
[21:28] <nacc> spinningcat: sure, it does.
[21:28] <spinningcat> okay
[21:28] <spinningcat> nvidia-drivers dont break ubuntu right?
[21:28] <nacc> azizLIGHT: ok, you'd need to download it from the ppa -- note that ppas don't keep old packages generally
[21:29] <nacc> spinningcat: that's too general of a question to be given a good answer.
[21:29] <spinningcat> nvidia-driver breaks debian i wonder does it break ubuntu too_?
[21:29] <azizLIGHT> nacc: yes ive noticed this problem... i have a good version and then i update to a new version, but the new version has problems and then i cant find the old version anymore ever again
[21:29] <spinningcat> it is not general question i think
[21:29] <nacc> spinningcat: your wondering isn't very direct. You can try it and see.
[21:30] <nacc> azizLIGHT: i'm not sure what they recommend (they being the ppa owners). you should ask them directly
[21:30] <azizLIGHT> how can i run a search for nvidia*.deb files on all my hdds
[21:30] <azizLIGHT> maybe i have a place im storing them personally
[21:31] <nacc> azizLIGHT: you can do `find / -name '*.deb'` but that will churn your disks quite a bit
[21:31] <spinningcat> if it not in archive
[21:31] <spinningcat> it is not in anywhere
[21:31] <spinningcat> .deb you downloaded is stored there
[21:31] <azizLIGHT> i might have backed up debs elsewhere because im aware of ppa's not storing old debs
[21:31] <azizLIGHT> because ive had this issue 5-6 times already
[21:32] <azizLIGHT> enough to know that i should backup the old debs
[21:33] <azizLIGHT> yes... i did
[21:33] <azizLIGHT> ~/nvidia-fuckup/
[21:34] <azizLIGHT> thank you nacc
[21:34] <nacc> azizLIGHT: yw
[21:44] <anoob> I cannot find my bluetooth device (speaker) when pairing
[21:45] <leftyfb> anoob: then it's probably not in pairing mode(the speaker)
[21:45] <anoob> leftyfb, it works with my android and windows ...
[22:00] <sadsagfjg> Hi,When i command sudo apt-get install xchat i faced The user is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported. How i can fix this?
[22:00] <nacc> sadsagfjg: talk to your system administrator
[22:01] <nacc> sadsagfjg: you aren't supposed to be installing packages if you do not have root privileges
[22:01] <sadsagfjg> nacc: I use pc
[22:01] <sadsagfjg> And i am system admiinstor
[22:03] <nacc> sadsagfjg: then you're not using ubuntu
[22:03] <nacc> sadsagfjg: by default in ubuntu, your user would be in sudo
[22:03] <sadsagfjg> And if i command apt-get install xchat in root (su) i face this error : https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/4PX2DTTRz8/
[22:04] <nacc> sadsagfjg: what version of ubuntu?
[22:04] <sadsagfjg> I dont use ubuntu
[22:04] <nacc> sadsagfjg: then you are in the wrong channel.
[22:04] <sadsagfjg> I am using debain base system
[22:05] <nacc> sadsagfjg: you want debian support
[22:05] <sadsagfjg> debian have channel?
[22:05] <nacc> sadsagfjg: dunno, probably, you could do some basic due diligence
[22:05] <genii> sadsagfjg: Their main channel is on the OFTC network, and not on Freenode
[22:06] <nacc> genii: thanks
[22:06] <sadsagfjg> genii:  How i can join OFTC network?
[22:06] <sadsagfjg> :|
[22:07] <genii> That is dependent on your IRC client
[22:07] <sadsagfjg> :|
[22:08] <genii> You *may* be able to just do /server irc.oftc.net
[22:17] <hggdh> there is also #debian on freenode
[22:37] <ASMJunkie> I just wanted to come in and say thanks too all the people who tried to help me fix my lan yesterday. After about 2 more hours of trying things I just gave up and bought a USB to ethernet adapter. Works perfectly and didnt even have to install any drivers
[22:38] <energizer> the workflow for using a ppa is `sudo add-apt-repository ppa:owner/repo && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install program` right?
[22:39] <gsilvapt> Good evening everyone. Does anyone know the support channel of Canonical for issues related with the 2FA of Launchpad?
[22:41] <nacc> gsilvapt: that's probably #launchpad to start, but then maybe one of the canonical channels (see !alis)
[22:41] <nacc> energizer: generally yes, with the normal caveats about ppas
[22:42] <energizer> nacc: ok
[22:44] <gsilvapt> I found it. Thanks though, nacc
[22:48] <nacc> gsilvapt: np
[23:01] <priv344323> has anyone seen bazhang?
[23:02] <priv344323> he used to be helping here
[23:18] <mneri> \j gradle
[23:28] <donpete> hey guys, does any of you know of a good substitute for IPOD in unbuntu besides clementime,  gktpod and banshee?
[23:28] <coz_> rhythmbox?
[23:31] <coz_> donpete, not sure, I never use apple anything
[23:31] <donpete> right on
[23:32] <donpete> why is that?
[23:32] <coz_> donpete, never liked it evenold macOS
[23:32] <coz_> donpete,  dont like the over pricing either although I understand why