[00:02] <Volund> man do I love apt and snap
[00:21] <sakhd> Hello. Is it possible to limit the count of stored system notifications?
[00:22] <sakhd> In Ubuntu many notifications (100 and more) start to load processor rather hard
[00:25] <argusbr> cat tudo.gringos.db |grep \.net(?:[:\/]|$) how to use regex in grep command??
[00:25] <Sven_vB> which metric should I monitor to get advance warning of soon to be expected "No buffer space available"?
[00:25] <xamithan> You mean extended ?
[00:26] <xamithan> grep -E
[00:27] <xamithan> -G is basic,  but you could use man grep
[00:29] <leftyfb> Sven_vB: if you're reaching that, you're doing something wrong
[00:30] <Sven_vB> leftyfb, yeah I'm currently trying to investigate what could cause that problem.
[00:31] <leftyfb> Sven_vB: where are you running into it?
[00:31] <xamithan> poorly written software
[00:31] <leftyfb> xamithan: it could be poor hardware as well
[00:31] <xamithan> Could be,  but you'd notice other issues if its that (usually)
[00:32] <Sven_vB> leftyfb, happens on my mail server. I was thinking to use the advance metric to login while SSH still works, then collect evidence of what's going on.
[00:32] <Sven_vB> *advance warning
[00:32] <xamithan> You can grab stats from /proc/net but I'd have no idea what numbers are normal other than zero
[00:33] <leftyfb> Sven_vB: When do you see this happening on your mail server? When you send mail using mailx? Receiving mail? Sending via imap? Pinging something?
[00:33] <leftyfb> Sven_vB: do you have a log with this error?
[00:35] <Sven_vB> leftyfb, I see it in my syslog like "postfix/smtpd[32576]: fatal: socket: No buffer space available". also I think I saw it earlier from my SSH client when SSH was dead but not too rotten yet.
[00:36] <leftyfb> Sven_vB: https://www.mail-archive.com/freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org/msg20232.html   tried that?
[00:37] <Sven_vB> nope, I'll have a look. thanks!
[00:37] <leftyfb> Sven_vB: how reproducable is this?
[00:37] <leftyfb> Sven_vB: if it happens daily/hourly, then is it possible to try a different network card and cable and port on your router/switch?
[00:38] <Sven_vB> it happens reliably at least once per week, but I haven't managed to predict the exact date/time yet. it probably depends on how eagerly the spammers try hitting my smtpd.
[00:38] <Sven_vB> nope, it's a rented virtual server.
[00:39] <rander3> hello
[00:39] <rander3> !help
[00:44] <Sven_vB> "sysctl -a |& grep -Fe maxsock" prints nothing. shouldn't there be previous values for kern.ipc.maxsockbuf and kern.ipc.maxsockets?
[00:44] <Sven_vB> rander3, hi :)
[00:57] <nacc> Sven_vB: it hasn't been /proc/sys/kern for some time
[00:59] <nacc> Sven_vB: actually, wait, i think that's a bsd-ism
[00:59] <nacc> i think the equiv is /proc/sys/net/core/rmem_max
[01:03] <mountains-VR> Thoughts on 128-bit encryption vs 256-bit for websites?
[01:04] <xamithan> 256 unless you hosting on a really really old CPU
[01:04] <mountains-VR> So why does a major website like Amazon use just 128-bit?
[01:05] <mountains-VR> They have so many resources available to them it's unbelievable, yet they choose 128.
[01:05] <mountains-VR> Is this because even 128-bit is overkill?
[01:06] <xamithan> I think they use 128 for the reason they do have tons of resources
[01:06] <mountains-VR> How does that make sense?
[01:06] <xamithan> From quora: at one billion attempts per second of brute-force.  it would take 5,783,128,169,837,158,197,871 years to break 128-bit
[01:06] <mountains-VR> So even 128-bit is overkill, no?
[01:07] <mountains-VR> Because the web requests are happening in a fraction of second.
[01:07] <xamithan> Nah,  because below 128 you got 56
[01:07] <mountains-VR> There's no way 128-bit could be compromised, right?
[01:07] <xamithan> and 56 can be broken in about a year
[01:08] <mountains-VR> So I wonder why so many websites are using 256-bit. Just because?
[01:08] <xamithan> Because its available,  same reason people use ubuntu cosmic cuttlefish right now
[01:08] <nacc> mountains-VR: totally offtopic for this channel
[01:09] <nacc> mountains-VR: you can use #ubuntu-offtopic or any number of other channels
[01:10] <Guest10406> Hello all people
[01:10] <Guest10406> How are you doing
[01:11] <nacc> Guest10406: do you have an ubuntu support question?
[01:11] <yaomtc> I can upgrade a package with `apt-get upgrade <package>' and it shows a bunch of new packages that will be installed, after having added a couple PPAs. However, "dist-upgrade" and "upgrade" show no packages. Zero?!
[01:12] <nacc> yaomtc: is that package currently installed?
[01:12] <yaomtc> More specifically I added the padoka PPA from Paulo Dias for the latest Mesa and LLVM.
[01:13] <yaomtc> nacc: yes, currently libgl1-mesa-dev is at 18.0.0 rc5
[01:13] <yaomtc> Mesa 18.3 is offered from the PPA
[01:13] <nacc> yaomtc: can you pastebin the output?
[01:14] <nacc> yaomtc: of various commands and the corresponding `apt-cache policy <pkgname>` ?
[01:14] <Sven_vB> nacc, thanks. that explains why I get mostly BSD threads with my search engine. :)
[01:15] <nacc> Sven_vB: yw
[01:15] <Sven_vB> that one has 3 values however: net.ipv4.tcp_rmem = 4096        87380   4194304
[01:16] <zer0> hello
[01:16] <Sven_vB> oh, nah, net.core.rmem_max = 133120. that looks quite high already.
[01:16] <zer0> Ok
[01:16] <Guest35483> Hi
[01:17] <yaomtc> nacc: Oh. I didn't do that, but here it is anyway: https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/fFGGRr7xwq/
[01:17] <yaomtc> I'll test the policy thing now
[01:17] <zer0> Can you see my IP?
[01:18] <zer0> I used irc for the first time.
[01:18] <yaomtc> nacc: here we go. https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/RG8JtbHDNT/
[01:20] <rander3> |help
[01:20] <rander3> !help
[01:20] <rander3> someone know as install vnc server ?
[01:26] <A|an> How can I fix this: when I click Trash, VLC opens.
[01:27] <A|an> BTW, running ubuntu mate
[01:28] <de-facto> is there any way to disable those extremely annoying popup notifications in gnome shell?
[01:31] <pragmaticenigma> de-facto: there are a lot of applications that provide notifications... can you be more specific?
[01:32] <de-facto> the gnome shell popup notifications on the top of the screen/any application (even fullscreen ones)
[01:33] <de-facto> i never ever want to see those popups, regardless of their origin
[01:33] <de-facto> its extremely annoying, i get a message that my mouse battery is empty every few minutes
[01:38] <yaomtc> nacc: oh that package isn't actually installed. Huh.
[01:39] <yaomtc> "Installed: (none)" yeah... that would explain it
[01:42] <yaomtc> false alarm, I'm a dummy
[01:42] <pragmaticenigma> de-facto: the problem is, it isn't one place to turn those off from. Gnome provides a "hook" that other applications can leverage to show alerts. So what you may need to do is look at power management to turn off notifications there. And other applications that you are using
[01:44] <de-facto> pragmaticenigma, the problem is that i already tried to disable all notifications in settings, yet gnome does not seem to care about that too much. can i uninstall gnome popup support globally somehow?
[01:45] <pragmaticenigma> de-facto: no, it's integrated deeply into Gnome Shell
[01:45] <de-facto> like applications send notfications, yet they wont get displayed ever, so effectivily end up in a black hole
[01:46] <de-facto> thats unfortunate that those gnome developers dont think about how their interface is used in daily life
[01:46] <de-facto> can i delete some file to break this functionality from gnome?
[01:47] <pragmaticenigma> de-facto: again, no, it's built into the Gnome Desktop program... there aren't components that you can just add and remove like legos
[01:48] <Delvien> de-facto: you have other options.
[01:48] <pragmaticenigma> The team the develops Gnome have taken a well known stance the "customization" ins't in their interest.
[01:49] <pragmaticenigma> de-facto: The best option is to fine a Desktop Environment that allows you to customize the notifications, or respects your preferences. KDE, is another widely used environmnet. LXDE and XFCE are two others that are lighter weight, use less system resources and all three suggestions have better mechanisms for managing notifications
[01:50] <pragmaticenigma> defkult: part of the problem I see in researching a solution for you, is Gnome devs have changed the location, settings, and other features that might turn on and off the notifications. Each update seems to be an attempt to circumvent what other people have found to work. It's a cat and mouse game that means you will forever be trying to stop those notifications
[01:51] <pragmaticenigma> woops. defkult sorry to tag you... that was meant for de-facto
[01:51] <Delvien> I use KDE with i3. myself, perfectly balanced. As all desktop should be
[01:52] <de-facto> yes i looked into those, yet i got used to the gnome applications/environment. Though I do have to admit its not the first time it annoyed me quite a bit that the gnome team just wont provide basic options to make their DE useable. i dont even ask for customizations, just control the basics to an extend that it functions currectly
[01:53] <Delvien> gnome environment is "babies first DE" its terrible imo and ubuntu should have gone with KDE, imo.
[01:53] <Delvien> baby's**
[01:53] <de-facto> and i googled already, and im not the first one annoyed by it. there is an extension, yet it just does not feel right to "fix" gnome everytime with another extension
[01:54] <Crawldragon> Well, it's alright for people who know next to nothing about computers or Unix systems.
[01:54] <Delvien> right, hence "baby's first"
[01:54] <Crawldragon> I still would have preferred something a little more professional.  As it is a lot of Linux/BSD desktop environments are really in love with the awful dock system that Mac computers are using.
[01:55] <Crawldragon> God forbid a computer have a Start menu anymore.
[01:55] <Delvien> KDE is your flavor then.
[01:55] <Delvien> or XFCE with the dock off.
[01:56] <Crawldragon> Thanks, I was actually just about to check both of those out.
[01:56] <Crawldragon> LXDE is pretty good too.
[01:58] <Delvien> LXDE is too lightweight for its own good, its missing some core features. Unless you are running on crap hardware, there is no reason to run it.
[01:58] <Crawldragon> Duly noted.
[02:00] <Delvien> honestly, KDE if you are looking for a feature rich DE, and one that doesnt look like its made for kids.
[02:01] <Delvien> #kubuntu is the channel for support if u have any kde questions while running ubuntu, if you do.
[02:02] <hfp> Probably a dumb question, but how do I find an explanation for a package's purpose? For example this one: https://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/gnome/update-notifier-common doesn't really explain what it's actually about.
[02:03] <pragmaticenigma> de-facto: the extensions are how it is expected to "fix" gnome or rather "customize" the features you desire. it feels hackish, because it is. many of us here, make it a priority to keep things as vanilla as possible, to avoid conflicts within programs. Extensions, themes and other customizations can and often do have an unintended results. which is why no one here suggested them
[02:03] <Bashing-om> hfp: ' apt show <package> ' .
[02:04] <pragmaticenigma> hfp: Because the name more or less implies it's purpose... Its the core libraries used for the Ubuntu update program, that handles upgrades to the next release of Ubuntu
[02:05] <pragmaticenigma> !info ubuntu-notifier-common
[02:05] <pragmaticenigma> !info ubuntu-notifier-common xenial
[02:05] <hfp> !info update-notifier-common
[02:06]  * pragmaticenigma ... oops ...
[02:06] <pragmaticenigma> !info update-notifier xenial
[02:06] <hfp> So this package notifies the user when a new Ubuntu release is available? That's all? Why is it required for unattended-upgrades according to the wiki then? (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticSecurityUpdates)
[02:07] <de-facto> pragmaticenigma, yes i know, thats why gnome itself should provide at least the basic settings itself without extensions. well it wont with makes it bad in my humble opinion.
[02:07] <pragmaticenigma> hfp: not exactly... that is just a summary. there are components within that application and library that unattended upgrades relies on... including when a user must be notified for specific updates (usually kernel or version changes)
[02:08] <pragmaticenigma> de-facto: your argument is valid, and shared by many
[02:08] <pragmaticenigma> de-facto: I switched to KDE (Kubuntu) with 18.04 as I wanted to use my desktop as 90% of other desktops are. Gnome's next ace is to remove desktop shortcuts... should be lots of fun
[02:09] <duoi> hey
[02:09] <de-facto> it alwas makes me think i overlooked something obvious, hence i asked here.
[02:09] <Belial> there's an extension to reenable the desktop shortcuts for gnome.
[02:09] <duoi> for some reason i cant see any wifi options in settings
[02:09] <Belial> so basically, another extension to add back normal functionality.
[02:10] <duoi> i cant see wlan-anything on ifconfig
[02:10] <duoi> cant see anything on rfkill list all
[02:10] <duoi> iwlist scan only shows ethernet
[02:10] <duoi> can anyone help me to try get the wifi going?
[02:11] <duoi> lspci shows the wifi card, but thats the only reference anywhere
[02:11] <duoi> 06:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Inc. and subsidiaries BCM43142 802.11b/g/n (rev 01)
[02:12] <pragmaticenigma> de-facto: the most common complaint we see here is the date/time at the top of the desktop. It is hardcoded to the develoepr's personal locale, which doesn't match a lot of other user's.
[02:12] <pragmaticenigma> goes to show, that even the tiniest features find annoyance with others.
[02:13] <Crawldragon> Wait, so the time zone can't be changed on the GNOME taskbar?
[02:13] <duoi> hmm could be secure boot
[02:14] <damian> hey guys, wondering if someone could help me with Samba! i just did a release upgrade from 17.10 to 18.04.1 and since then whenever i try to connect to a samba share it just asks me for the password.. tried everything!
[02:14] <damian> as in all combinations of passwords
[02:14] <pragmaticenigma> duoi: Broadcom drivers are very difficult and usually require proprietary drivers. Check out this post and see if it helps you
[02:14] <pragmaticenigma> https://askubuntu.com/a/60395
[02:14] <damian> and i've done an smbpasswd -a user to try and get htem to work, but still nudda. the logs don't seem to tell me much
[02:15] <pragmaticenigma> damian: Are the Samba users properly matched to local system users on the Ubuntu machine?
[02:16] <pragmaticenigma> damian: that is, is there anything in /etc/samba/smbusers
[02:16] <de-facto> pragmaticenigma, yeah i know, at least its not ontop every other (fullscreen) application (yet?).
[02:16] <damian> as far as i know! i mean it worked up until the upgrade. the username on my local win10 computer is 'dwest' but on ubuntu it's 'damian', but that's never mattered after the first prompt
[02:17] <damian> there's no smbusers file on my ubuntu at all!
[02:17] <damian> and that's the same for at least two other ubuntu's i have which are working (but different versions)
[02:17] <damian> oh actually, one is the same version
[02:18] <pragmaticenigma> damian: I use it, but mostly because I keep my passwords in sync ... so I don't have to login to my samba shares all the time, windows can do it automatically
[02:18] <Richard_Cavell> Hi guys. I'm about to run a command to back up my system and I just want to make sure it seems like the right one.  https://ideone.com/VVo0hP
[02:19] <Richard_Cavell> rsync / .        # is this right?
[02:19] <damian> yeah, i keep mine in sync as well usually. i even created a dwest account on ubuntu so it would sync. i think that's how i got it working originally here, but still that doesn't seem to work in this case
[02:19] <pragmaticenigma> Richard_Cavell: Is this for an Ubuntu system?
[02:20] <de-facto> Richard_Cavell, isnt your backup location included in /? e.g. would it be recursive or does rsync exclude it automatically? what about /dev and /proc and all those?
[02:21] <damian> when i do a pdbedit -L -v it gives me both of my user accounts with their correct detail
[02:21] <pragmaticenigma> de-facto: Richard_Cavell isn't running Ubuntu, we are not have to support their operating system
[02:21] <pragmaticenigma> have => able
[02:23] <pragmaticenigma> Also, rsync of an entire system is not a good way to make a backup
[02:29] <pragmaticenigma> de-facto: you are correct, rsync on a live system with those options is going to go into recursive loops, espeially when it hits the mount point of their backup drive
[02:37] <dave2592> Richard, it's difficult to say because we don't know what's in some of those directories. I think most people start from the root of their filesystem, and there are certain sytem directorie syou want to exclude
[02:45] <lucas-arg> I have a new acer aspire 5 laptop and it has intel 620 and mx150 from nvidia. when i type sudo lshw -C display this is what i get, i dont know if the geforce card is working or not... https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/DPc2BmCzpS/
[02:45] <lucas-arg> ive installed drivers with sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall
[02:45] <lucas-arg> dont know if that was ok
[02:46] <xamithan> Looks like a hybrid,  did you install nvidia-prime ?
[02:47] <Bashing-om> LudusLight: "configuración: driver=nouveau ". Have you rebooted the system after 'autoinstall' ?
[02:52] <lucas-arg> xamithan, yes its installed
[02:53] <lucas-arg> if i do sudo prime-select nvidia it says nvidia is selected
[02:53] <lucas-arg> but i cant even get into the nvidia settings
[02:54] <Boyette> check for the drivers
[02:54] <Boyette> why did you install auto?
[02:54] <xamithan> ^    if its showing nouveau then nvidia settings isn't going to open
[02:56] <lucas-arg> it installed nvidia-390 drivers
[02:56] <lucas-arg> nvidia-prime
[02:56] <lucas-arg> and bunch of stuff
[02:57] <LudusLight> um, wrong mention?
[02:57] <LudusLight> Bashing-om
[02:57] <dli> how to disable gnome screensaver? gnome-power-preferences doesn't exist
[02:59] <Bashing-om> LudusLight: 'apt autoinstall ' is the prefered method. Acer can be problematic . Have you set "trust" in the firmware ?
[03:03] <Bashing-om> LudusLight: What release and desk top are we working with here ?
[03:03] <LudusLight> i think you're looking for lucas-arg
[03:04] <Bashing-om> LudusLight: Sorry .. my appologoes . lucas-arg ^^ ,
[03:04] <amagora> Having a package download issue. Running ubuntu server 18.04. Already did some research
[03:05] <amagora> Wanting to download fish shell package. But Bionic can not find the packages.
[03:05] <amagora> So I tried using wget on a mirror site.
[03:05] <amagora> Still having issues resolving the host address.
[03:05] <amagora> So I was looking into changing the sources.list file.
[03:06] <amagora> No luck there. Is there a command that will let me download directly from a mirrorsite?
[03:06] <cristovao> oi
[03:06] <amagora> cristovao: yes? can you help me?
[03:06] <Bashing-om> amagora: server: did you enable the universe repo ?
[03:06] <Lukas_> hi
[03:07] <amagora> Would I enable universe repo with the sources.list. by adding deb "web name" bionic main universe?
[03:07] <amagora> Bashing-om: Would I enable universe repo with the sources.list. by adding deb "web name" bionic main universe?
[03:08] <amagora> Is there any reason bionic disabled downloading outside package sources. I love the fish terminal 16.04 has no issue installing the package.
[03:09] <Lukas_> Hi can someone help me out I am trying to install Ubuntu and I managed to install it, yet I cannot launch it without using the "nomodeset" parameter. I am on a laptop with an integrated and discete graphics, so I think that might be the issue. I tried installing the nvidia drivers but it does not seem to help. Whenever I try removing "nomodeset" and I try to boot I get to the login screen, click login and then it freezes. If anyone co
[03:10] <hggdh> amagora: outside package repos have *never* been officially accepted. You add them at your own risk.
[03:10] <cristovao> brasil
[03:10] <amagora> So fish shell is not an ouside package?
[03:10] <amagora> Or wasnt ubuntu 16.04 has no issues with fish shell install at all.
[03:11] <amagora> hggdh: How would I go about installing fish shell now?
[03:11] <Bashing-om> amagora: ' cat cat -n /etc/apt/sources.list ' If and only if it is NOT enabled then do:  'sudo add-apt-repository universe' .
[03:11] <hggdh> amagora: fish is still being distributed in the Ubuntu repos
[03:11] <dli> Lukas_, does it work, if you disable the nvidia card in BIOS?
[03:11] <hggdh> !info fish
[03:12] <cristovao> alguem do brasil
[03:12] <hggdh> cristovao: fala-se Ingles por cá.
[03:12] <cristovao> ui
[03:12] <cristovao> kkk
[03:12] <Lukas_> could you elaborate dli?
[03:13] <Lukas_> I've tried looking in my BIOS and there does not seem to be an area where I can disable my nvidia card
[03:14] <amagora> hggdh: I saw it was still being distributed, but installing with just "sudo apt-get install fish."
[03:14] <amagora> hggdh: doesnt install the package without an error of not finding the package.
[03:14] <hggdh> amagora: you need to have the universe repo enabled
[03:15] <amagora> Bashing-om: I just installed the universe repo
[03:15] <amagora> hggdh: just took Bashing-om's advice and installed the repo
[03:16] <amagora> Thanks for the help hggdh and Bashing-om fish is officially installing.
[03:16] <amagora> I will keep this command in mind
[03:16] <Bashing-om> amagora: refresh ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade ' ..then install fish ' sudo apt install fish ' .
[03:23] <FesterJester> Hello all!
[03:24] <Boyette> hi
[03:24] <hanabishi> Hello
[03:25] <hanabishi> !Boyette : Hello
[03:26] <FesterJester> So, I am hoping I am in the right place to ask this question. How do I fix screen tearing on an intel system?
[03:27] <bobdobbs> I'm on ubuntu 18.04. I've set up a printer. The printer is clearly visible in the system settings. So... how to I actually print things?
[03:28] <bobdobbs> Like, if I send a document to be printed from my browser (chrome) exactly nothing happens.  I don't get any error messages or warnings from the print dialogue. The printer itself just sits there minding it's own business
[03:28] <cristovao> strange
[03:29] <cristovao> reset system
[03:30] <cristovao> reboot print and compt
[03:30] <bobdobbs> cristovao: I have done both
[03:30] <cristovao> pc
[03:31] <cristovao> yes ok
[03:31] <bobdobbs> I found this doc, but it doesn't say how to actually print anything: https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/printing.html.en
[03:32] <bobdobbs> (well, apart from 'print a booklet'. but that's not my issue)
[03:32] <rangergord> Hi. I installed Ubuntu 18.04 to a USB stick (as in, full install, not a Live CD), and was able to boot it. However, when I tried it on a newer laptop running Windows 10, despite selecting USB boot, it's Windows that boots. I take it this is a UEFI thing? What can I do to the USB stick to make Ubuntu boot on the laptop?
[03:32] <Boyette> @rangergord disable secure boot in bios
[03:34] <rangergord> Boyette: I'll do that if there's no other recourse...but I kind of wanted Ubuntu-on-a-stick that works ANYWHERE, including other people's PCs where I wouldn't want to disable secure boot. Any other solutions?
[03:35] <cristovao> defaut driver print
[03:35] <Boyette> no because that is how computers work.. how can a random stick work in any random computer with secure boot enabled.. what do you think this functionality is made for?
[03:36] <rangergord> I guess I could disable secure boot, use Ubuntu, then re-enable it, when using other people's HW
[03:36] <Boyette> possible
[03:36] <cristovao> correcl
[03:37] <cristovao> ok
[03:38] <bobdobbs> I didn't try to print using gnomes document viewer, because the gnome document viewer print dialogue doesn't have an option for printing in black-and-white. I don't like wasting colour ink.
[03:38] <bobdobbs> But I just tried printing it now using gnome's print dialoge, and nothing happens
[03:41] <cristovao> no doubt this stranger tries to reinstall the printer. maybe it works.
[03:44] <unshackled> uhh...apt is broken now?
[03:46] <frinto_> hey
[03:47] <frinto_> anyone here?
[03:47] <hggdh> unshackled: no, it is not
[03:47] <frinto_> lol what?
[03:47] <IcemanV9> no one's home ;-)
[03:50] <FesterJester> It's pretty quiet in here tonight.
[03:54] <hanabishi> but where i'm on is day
[03:54] <hanabishi> lol
[03:54] <hanabishi> love this time
[03:57] <patr0clus> why when i attempt to change my dns settings permanently am I then not able to connect to the internet? Further, how can I also similarly change my route my ipv6 dns? What is the proper configuration for my resolv.conf.d file?
[04:04] <qwebirc49346> question about a dual boot on a mac... if i partition the drives, then boot via usb (and install ubuntu) will grub automatically take control for bootup or how does that process work?
[04:05] <qwebirc49346> following this process (again) but skipped the "install reFIND" part https://www.maketecheasier.com/install-dual-boot-ubuntu-mac/
[04:05] <FesterJester> refind is needed on a mac
[04:06] <qwebirc49346> so.. the last time i followed the doc in that link.. i installed refind.. but after rebooting (after installing ubuntu) it stopped using refind and just booted into ubuntu
[04:06] <qwebirc49346> (could boot into mac by holding option during startup)
[04:07] <FesterJester> what year is this mac from?
[04:07] <qwebirc49346> 2011
[04:07] <qwebirc49346> mbair
[04:09] <FesterJester> Ok, just checking compatibility. It has been a few years since I have booted a mac, but when I did, refind was needed to load the grub bootloader
[04:10] <qwebirc49346>  ok cool
[04:11] <qwebirc49346> yeah i'm going to just take a step back and do this right. installing refind
[04:11] <qwebirc49346> thanks!
[04:11] <FesterJester> I hope that solves your problem
[04:11] <qwebirc49346> i've found the ubuntu community to be really helpful
[04:11] <Boyette> hi is it possible to resize boot partition hot ?
[04:11] <FesterJester> @Boyette: define hot
[04:12] <Boyette> its on a vps
[04:12] <Boyette> so i can not put a live usb stick
[04:12] <Boyette> so i want to do it from the actual os
[04:12] <Boyette> or any other way
[04:13] <FesterJester> after bootup, you can resize partitions, but it can be quite time consuming and simetimes challenging.
[04:13] <Boyette> but how
[04:13] <Boyette> i installed gparted
[04:13] <Boyette> and unmounted the boot partition
[04:13] <Boyette> but still cant add unallocated space to it
[04:18] <guiverc> Boyette, is the free space next to your boot partition?  and if boot is a logical partition; is the free space also in the extended partition?
[04:21] <Boyette> its like this
[04:21] <Boyette> https://prnt.sc/klvlx0
[04:22] <FesterJester> There is no space left to add to the boot partition from what I can see
[04:23] <Boyette> so i need to make space first
[04:23] <guiverc> me neither - & yes you need space if you want to make it larger
[04:24] <Boyette> but how
[04:24] <FesterJester> You will need to shrink sda3 or sda4 the amount you want to add to /boot
[04:24] <FesterJester> and then move the empty space next to /boot
[04:25] <FesterJester> and finally resize /boot
[04:25] <Boyette> like this?
[04:25] <Boyette> fdisk -l /dev/sda*; blkid /dev/sd* && swapoff -a && umount /boot && tune2fs -O has_journal /dev/sda1 && echo -e "d\n2\nn\np\n2\n2181119\n\nt\n2\n82\nd\n1\nn\np\n1\n\n\np\nw" | fdisk /dev/sda && e2fsck -f /dev/sda1
[04:26] <Boyette> swapoff -a && mkswap -L swap /dev/sda2 && umount /boot && e2fsck -f /dev/sda1 && resize2fs /dev/sda1 && tune2fs -j /dev/sda1 && mount /boot
[04:27] <FesterJester> Because I have never worked with a vps before, I am unable to help much further. I usually have physical access to the machine I am working on.
[04:28] <Boyette> now i tried it but i think i bricked it
[04:28] <Boyette> maybe something was wrong in the command
[04:29] <FesterJester> I do see LVM in your partition scheme
[04:30] <FesterJester> LVM has the ability to resize on the fly (I think) that sould help some there
[04:30] <Boyette> ah its turning on again
[04:30] <Boyette> maybe it did work
[04:30] <Boyette> but it was still busy
[04:30] <Boyette> it did not
[04:30] <Boyette> work
[04:31] <FesterJester> I would look into learning a little more about LVM
[04:31] <FesterJester> before going to much further
[04:33] <Boyette> journal error
[04:33] <frinto> hey
[04:33] <frinto> anyone here?
[04:33] <unshackled> unshackledfrinto_ i get an error from apt, and when i used tasksel it failed and broke KDE...just sayin'
[04:34] <frinto> sdds
[04:34] <frinto> wait
[04:34] <frinto> wrong channel lol
[04:34] <unshackled> dropping back to LTS just to be safe guys thanks for everyones help
[04:35] <MrHands>                .[04:38] <luna> https://www.afterdawn.com/news/article.cfm/2018/08/22/internet-relay-chat-or-irc-turns-30
[04:39] <madLyfe> i can remove [printers] and [print$] from samba and not bork it, correct?
[04:41] <FesterJester> So long as you do not want to share the printers connected to the system you remove the entries from
[04:44] <FesterJester> So, how do I fix screen tearing?
[04:45] <Mead> get a g-sync Freesync monitor and hope you get driver support
[04:47] <longus_catus> Is it possible to manipulate/mount/find/use "previous versions" NTFS feature with ubuntu?
[04:51] <FesterJester> @Mead: How do I without purchasing a special monitor?
[04:54] <unshackled> FesterJester i never had too much luck with lvm, it caused more problems for me due to the way i used things
[04:54] <Mead> gosh, most games have a feature for v-sync that limits the number of frames per second to what your monitor support. It is less than idea
[04:55] <unshackled> i got a msg from Steam saying it would not play on my TV because of the refresh rate once :P
[04:55] <unshackled> so now i have a new TV and I dont even play games !
[04:56] <unshackled> oh of course i do the late night peggle games snuggled under a blanket with choco ice cream
[04:56] <FesterJester> I am not playing games though.
[04:56] <unshackled> FesterJester you should play Peggle
[04:56] <FesterJester> Videos are tearing
[04:57] <hateball> FesterJester: what GPU/driver are you using?
[04:59] <FesterJester> OS: Ubuntu Mate 18.04 LTS GPU: Intel GMA X4500
[05:00] <hateball> FesterJester: have you tried the TearFree option? https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/intel_graphics#Tear-free_video
[05:00] <unshackled> yeah you need the nvidia driver
[05:01] <XueFeng> msg NickServ identify XueFeng 123123123
[05:01] <unshackled> lol
[05:01] <hateball> You don't need an nvidia driver unless you have an nvidia card :)
[05:01] <FesterJester> hateball: I have. When I setup that config, the system boots with a blank screen.
[05:01] <unshackled> well his vdeo is tearing so he has one
[05:01] <hateball> FesterJester: ack
[05:01] <hateball> unshackled: ... no? You can get tearing with Intel or AMD as well
[05:04] <guiverc> XueFeng, you made an error - change your password asap
[05:05] <hateball> FesterJester: I'm sorry, havent had to troubleshoot Intel in a while, I am using mostly nvidia... TearFree used to work for me on Intel tho
[05:07] <FesterJester> hateball: Been a while for me as well. Been using nvidia for some time also.
[05:09] <herbmillerjr> Why do I keep getting "unable to install new version of '/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpng12.so.0': No such file or directory" with Xenial in a chroot?
[05:09] <hateball> FesterJester: are you getting tearing in *all* videos, or just in a browser?
[05:09] <Boyette> lol
[05:15] <FesterJester> hateball: Only tried local files so far
[05:16] <hateball> FesterJester: hmpf. Otherwise it could have been for instance chrome blacklisting your gpu driver, but for local files... yeah it's something else
[05:16] <hateball> FesterJester: is this on GNOME?
[05:16] <hateball> I am not familiar with GNOME, if you can turn off compositing or not. could be a thing to try otherwise
[05:17] <FesterJester> hateball: Mate
[05:18] <FesterJester> hateball: and I am using VLC to play the files
[05:18] <hateball> FesterJester: Even less familiar with Mate :D I am a Plasma guy myself
[05:19] <mouses> herbmillerjr: what are you doing that results in that error?
[05:19] <mouses> herbmillerjr: also the system = xenial and the chroot = xenial?
[05:21] <Bashing-om> !info libpng12 xenial
[05:21] <u0_a103> hello
[05:22] <setyowi> hello
[05:22] <Bashing-om> !info libpng12-0 xenial
[05:24] <setyowi> hallo
[05:24] <setyowi> sepi uy
[05:25] <setyowi> exite
[05:25] <setyowi> exit
[05:25] <mouses> FesterJester: anyway, this should clear you up:
[05:26] <mouses> apt-get install libpng-dev
[05:26] <mouses> apt-get install libpng12-0
[05:26] <FesterJester> mouses: I will give it a try asap.
[05:26] <herbmillerjr> mouses: System is gentoo, chroot is ubuntu xenial. I'm installing qemu.
[05:27] <mouses> FesterJester: my fault!  I meant herbmillerjr
[05:27] <mouses> herbmillerjr: <3 gentoo
[05:28] <mouses> herbmillerjr: anyway, in your xenial chroot just apt install those two things
[05:28] <mouses> and you should be good to go (I think)
[05:29] <FesterJester> mouses: I was starting to wonder about that.  :-)
[05:29] <mouses> FesterJester: lol sorry you both have long names and my brain got confused
[05:31] <m0rd3cai> hopefully someone can help here. Installed Nextcloud as a snap package (big mistake) and I can find no documentation on where config files are, etc... has anyone tried to add apps into NC as Snap package?
[05:33] <_puneet_> Hello!
[05:33] <m0rd3cai> hello
[05:37] <mouses> m0rd3cai: Everything you need should be here
[05:37] <mouses> https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-install-and-configure-nextcloud-on-ubuntu-16-04
[05:38] <mouses> (same process for 18.04 - just set it up on a few machines last night)
[05:38] <mouses> m0rd3cai: let me know if you get stuck, i'll be here for another 30-40 mins
[05:38] <mouses> (side note: DO really writes some great guides)
[05:40] <drager> When I launch a terminal from another terminal I cannot search history. I'm using zsh and if I run: `bindkey -L | grep R` that gives me this: `bindkey "^R" redisplay` in the last launched terminal.
[05:40] <drager> It works and the binding looks ok in the first terminal
[05:40] <drager> Any ideas about this?
[05:42] <herbmillerjr> mouses: No such luck with -dev package.
[05:42] <mouses> herbmillerjr: grrrrrrr
[05:42] <m0rd3cai> mouses: thanks, ive gotten it installed and been running fine, im trying to manually install an app from the webstore but the way snap package is laid out, nothing is where it would be with a "normal" NC install. thats where im stuck :-/
[05:42] <mouses> herbmillerjr: try a apt autoremove and apt clean
[05:43] <mouses> m0rd3cai: Oh!  Beyond that i'm not sure, I did mine manually.
[05:43] <mouses> maybe a simple file system search for the file you are looking for?
[05:43] <mouses> (can you do that inside of a snap?)
[05:43] <mouses> I'm pretty new to snap stuff myself
[05:44] <CoolerZ> man rename gave little to no info about the regex they use
[05:44] <CoolerZ> is that regex flavor the same as javascript?
[05:45] <CoolerZ> does it depend on which OS you are running? Ubuntu vs Debian ...
[05:47] <m0rd3cai> mouses: i should have :-/
[05:47] <HaMsTeRs> hello my peep
[06:07] <PrashantJ> Hi, Trying to install the current version of mysql 5.7 on Ubuntu 18.04.1 LTS, however as already reported in launchpad I'm facing issues in installation with APT. Please refer - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mysql-5.6/+bug/1435081
[06:07] <PrashantJ> and mysql 5.7 installation on ubuntu 18.04.1 error >>> https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/4xPM3JU2ejJgc2dWfwQmJg
[06:08] <HaMsTeRs> is it possible to setup vscode as assembly compiler?  I couldn't find any related information on the internet
[06:08] <PrashantJ> In fact, I also tried - https://dev.mysql.com/doc/mysql-apt-repo-quick-guide/en/#apt-repo-remove and did a fresh install from scratch but NO success :(
[06:10] <lotuspsychje> !lamp | PrashantJ
[06:13] <PrashantJ> lotuspsychje, I just need mysql not the entire lamp stack.
[06:14] <geirha> docker might be an easier way to go
[06:15] <PrashantJ> geirha, was that for me?
[06:15] <geirha> yes
[06:18] <PrashantJ> geirha, already on a VM and wanted native installation
[06:21] <lotuspsychje> PrashantJ: did you install another version of mysql before? apt says that?
[06:22] <PrashantJ> lotuspsychje, I did install latest with `sudo apt-get install mysql-server` and it failed  with the same error as described in the launchpad issue
[06:23] <PrashantJ> lotuspsychje, I tried `apt-get purge` and reinstall quite few times now
[06:23] <lotuspsychje> PrashantJ: can you try this plz: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[06:26] <lotuspsychje> PrashantJ: also, is your system up to date to latest? check with: sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade
[06:32] <Sa_Ra_> hi, I'm configuring iptables in Ubuntu, can I ask a question about tha configuration here ?
[06:33] <_nedR> optimus laptop overheating and shutting down.... nvidia-390 driver doing jack all to help... nvidia 340 drivers refuse to install.. yay 8 years of nvidia/ubuntu laptop problems... great job linus and linux team... free cake for everybody
[06:35] <PrashantJ> lotuspsychje, let me do that
[06:38] <lotuspsychje> _nedR: 340 doesnt work properly anymore try nvidia 390.77
[06:38] <lotuspsychje> _nedR: try ubuntu graphics ppa to get 390.77
[06:40] <PrashantJ> lotuspsychje, Tried `sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade` and fails at dpkg. Please refer - https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/X4y~LqTf126oCL3SitcOnw
[06:41] <hateball> _nedR: if you use the drivers ppa you can try 396 as well, it works better for me than 390 does. granted I do not use optimus, I use it on a desktop
[06:42] <lotuspsychje> hateball: wich card do you have mate
[06:43] <spectre123123> Did someone set a raid 1 system on a computer with just two hard drives?
[06:45] <hateball> lotuspsychje: gtx1070
[06:45] <hateball> lotuspsychje: 390 does not play nice with Plasma, and also recent gaming stuff wants 396 so
[06:45] <lotuspsychje> hateball: does ubuntu-drivers list reccomend 396 on your system too?
[06:46] <_nedR> lotuspsychje, hi thanks for reply... are you sure 390.77 will work.. 390 from software&updates app still causing overheating... i had the same issue in 14.04, i installed an old nvidia driver to fix it.. i can't quite remember which driver tho.. trying tosearch and find out think it was nvidia 340
[06:46] <_nedR> nvidia-331
[06:46] <_nedR> or nvidia-331*
[06:46] <lotuspsychje> hateball: there's a massive bug on the nvidia drivers on bionic, 390.48 from repos gives alot of black screens on gtx cards
[06:47] <hateball> lotuspsychje: currently not on my nvidia machine so I cant tell
[06:48] <lotuspsychje> kk tnx for feedback hateball
[06:50] <PrashantJ> lotuspsychje, I guess I should download .deb of mysql first and add that to APT Repository first. I think, that's what I missed.
[06:50] <PrashantJ> lotuspsychje, trying that. But anyway, thanks for your time :)
[06:51] <lotuspsychje> PrashantJ: try apt autoremove too
[06:51] <PrashantJ> lotuspsychje, okay :)
[06:51] <_nedR> hateball, mine is old card 620m gt... not sure latest drivers work.. in 14.04 (from which i recently 'upgraded') to 18.04, the drivers that worked was 340 or 331 iirc
[06:51] <lotuspsychje> PrashantJ: think you should first remove mysql, the autoremove, then update system, then try again
[07:00] <Guest99944> ?
[07:05] <maum> hello
[07:16] <EriC^^> hi maum
[07:17] <maum> hello ErgoX___
[07:17] <maum> EriC^^:
[07:18] <Walker> Hey guys, I still have the problem when installing a fresh copy of ubuntu server that I cannot login to my newly created user account.
[07:18] <Walker> I immediately get logged out back to the console
[07:18] <Walker> Even ssh does drop the connection after sending the welcome message
[07:19] <Walker> I went into rescue mode using the install medium and found out that in home there is no directory for my user
[07:19] <Walker> I created one and gave permission with chown -R to that user
[07:19] <Walker> But that still doesn't fix the problem
[07:20] <mouses> Walker: ummm, it's a 100% fresh system - maybe something went very wrong during install?  Try it again?
[07:20] <Walker> I did a hardware check yesterday with the only problem that I don't have a battery on the raid controller
[07:20] <mouses> that's so weird
[07:20] <Walker> I already installed the system with different versions of ubuntu
[07:21] <Walker> With ubuntu 16.04.1 16.04.3 16.04.5 and also 18.04.1
[07:21] <Walker> I created new volume groups and let them initialize completely
[07:21] <crackpotmark> Is /home on a different partition or drive?
[07:21] <crackpotmark> Is it accessible during boot
[07:21] <Walker> I used only one volume group during installation
[07:22] <Walker> The other one is untouched
[07:22] <Walker> What do you mean by accessible? I can install ubuntu on it without any problems.
[07:22] <Walker> Also it can't be a storage problem, there are 190gb free space
[07:23] <crackpotmark> You installed everything to the same partition, yes?
[07:23] <Walker> yup
[07:23] <Walker> I also tried installing with lvm
[07:23] <Walker> And with "use complete drive"
[07:23] <Walker> No difference
[07:23] <EriC^^> Walker: did you checksum the iso?
[07:24] <Walker> I didnt, but I also tried to install from an iso that was working last time I installed it on the server without any problems
[07:24] <EriC^^> Walker: do you have another usb?
[07:25] <Walker> i used an usb drive and I used two different sd cards to install the system
[07:25] <Walker> Didnt help too
[07:25] <EriC^^> did any errors show in /var/log/auth.log when you logged in from ssh?
[07:25] <Walker> Ssh said I was dropping the connection
[07:25] <Walker> Which is not true at all
[07:25] <EriC^^> i think it might be a keyboard layout problem or something
[07:26] <EriC^^> if it's going back to login screen from the physical console
[07:26] <EriC^^> try typing the password in the login to see if the chars are right
[07:26] <Walker> The chars are right, because I already got the welcome message on console
[07:26] <EriC^^> does it actually login? or just give the login prompt again?
[07:26] <Walker> and then I get back to login prompt immediately
[07:27] <EriC^^> ok try to debug it
[07:27] <EriC^^> use the maintenance mode from the recovery menu
[07:27] <Walker> You mean I should use the install medium and get into rescue mode, right?
[07:28] <EriC^^> and as root try using "su <your user> -" and also "login" command and see how it goes
[07:28] <EriC^^> you can even run "strace -o /tmp/log login" and see what happening in more detail
[07:28] <Walker> Okay, will reboot now
[07:28] <Walker> Takes some time
[07:29] <Walker> If I can't get it running I will use esxi and install ubuntu in there, but thats not bare metal :/
[07:33] <Walker> Okay, im on that rescue mode now
[07:33] <Walker> I used su lxd - and after that whoami
[07:33] <Walker> Still says im root
[07:33] <EriC^^> Walker: try first "mount -o remount,rw /"
[07:34] <Walker> Login with that user "lxd" showed the welcome message
[07:34] <Walker> And whoami after that also says root
[07:35] <Walker> With mount I get following error on su lxd - :no passed entry for user lxd
[07:35] <Walker> With login I get the welcome message but whoami also tells me im root
[07:35] <Walker> No passwd
[07:35] <Walker> Not passed
[07:36] <EriC^^> Walker: ok, try creating a new user and see how it goes real quick
[07:36] <EriC^^> "adduser test"
[07:36] <EriC^^> you successfully ran "mount -o remount,rw /" right?
[07:37] <Walker> Yep that returned with no error message
[07:37] <Walker> adduser worked
[07:37] <EriC^^> what does "su test" do?
[07:37] <Walker> Now I could change the user to test
[07:37] <Walker> But there are two messages
[07:37] <EriC^^> ok, try to exit
[07:38] <EriC^^> Walker: i think i know what the problem is
[07:38] <Walker> bash: cannot set terminal process group (-1): Inappropriate ioctl for device
[07:38] <Walker> Bash: no job control in this shell
[07:38] <EriC^^> Walker: type "grep lxc /etc/passwd" and look at the last column
[07:38] <Walker> Grep not found
[07:39] <EriC^^> huh
[07:39] <Walker> But cat worked
[07:39] <Walker> Lxd is und 106
[07:39] <EriC^^> odd but ok
[07:39] <Walker> uid*
[07:39] <EriC^^> what's the set shell?
[07:39] <Walker> You think that lxd has no right to use the shell?
[07:39] <boars>                                _____________________
[07:39] <Walker> Because lxd installs its own user?
[07:40] <Walker> /bin/false
[07:40] <EriC^^> yeah the shell is set to /bin/false
[07:40] <EriC^^> after you login, /bin/false runs
[07:40] <EriC^^> sudo -u lxc -s /bin/bash
[07:40] <EriC^^> and you should be able to have a shell as the user
[07:40] <Walker> Wow
[07:41] <Walker> That worked
[07:41] <Walker> Now I feel stupid ^^
[07:41] <EriC^^> but why are you trying to login as that user
[07:41] <Walker> Thats the name I chose upon installation
[07:41] <EriC^^> ah
[07:41] <EriC^^> it must have contradicted with the system one
[07:41] <Walker> And it can't create it since its already been there
[07:41] <EriC^^> cause user one's are uid 1000+
[07:41] <EriC^^> yeah
[07:42] <Walker> omfg
[07:42] <Walker> That cost me hours :D
[07:42] <crackpotmark> Should there not be a sanity check for user creation?
[07:42] <EriC^^> crackpotmark: good point
[07:42] <Walker> Can it be that the sanity check (if there is one) doesn't have lxd in there
[07:43] <Walker> i think lxd isn't being shipped for that long, right?
[07:43] <crackpotmark> Unless it checks before lxd is added to the passwd
[07:44] <Walker> okay thanks guys, I really appreciate that you helped me out :)
[07:44] <EriC^^> no problem
[07:44] <Walker> Will reinstall that server with ubuntu 18.04 and use the default username :D
[07:48] <Walker> One thing I don't understand. Isn't ssh login limited to users with uid 1000 and above?
[07:48] <Walker> Why was I even able to get a welcome message then?
[07:49] <EriC^^> cause you logged in fine, the motd runs, then the shell
[07:49] <EriC^^> usually bash or something else runs and you end up with a user@host$ prompt which is just bash
[07:49] <Walker> Sure but I thought ssh only works for 1000+ and lxd has uid 106
[07:51] <Walker> Will check that later :)
[07:51] <Walker> But thanks for the explanation :)
[07:52] <spider_> Netbeans 8.1 "Turning on modules" crash...
[07:52] <EriC^^> Walker: alright:)
[07:53] <EriC^^> Walker: maybe there's 2 lxc entries in /etc/passwd ?
[07:54] <spider_> Netbeans 8.1 "Turning on modules" crash...
[07:54] <Walker> there was only one entry with uid 106
[07:54] <Walker> For user lxD
[07:54] <Walker> Not lxc
[07:54] <Walker> The user should have got uid 1000
[07:55] <Walker> But the test user I added got uid 1000
[07:55] <EriC^^> Walker: ah ssh works for <1000 here on ubuntu
[07:55] <EriC^^> must be a distro specific thing
[07:55] <Walker> Okay good to know
[07:55] <EriC^^> :)
[07:55] <Walker> Then the one I remember was a modified version from a dedicated server provider
[07:56] <Walker> And they changed it to disallow root login
[07:56] <EriC^^> makes sense
[07:56] <Walker> reinstall is nearly complete, now I can find out if that problem goes away :)
[07:57] <spider_> how to install XP over Ubuntu encrypted setup in which crypt has locked the Hard Disk.
[07:57] <EriC^^> spider_: why xp?
[07:58] <EriC^^> spider_: you could resize the encrypted portion and let xp on the unencrypted  part
[07:58] <EriC^^> spider_: or just use a vm if it's enough?
[07:59] <spider_> How to unencrypt or clear the encryption so that full hdd is put back to normal mode?
[08:00] <crackpotmark> What sort of encryption?
[08:01] <crackpotmark> Windows would ignore any software encryption during install, at the cost of the existing data
[08:01] <ryuo> Windows XP...? -facepalms-
[08:01] <spider_> Its very cool.
[08:02] <crackpotmark> Ice cold
[08:02] <Walker> Booted into ubuntu 18.04 and it works now :)
[08:02] <crackpotmark> After 15yrs in the wild
[08:03] <crackpotmark> A VM is certainly the best way to relive XP
[08:03] <spider_> XP is really awesome.
[08:03] <crackpotmark> And mostly useless for modern users
[08:04] <spider_> Can you help me regarding "Turning on modules..." in Netbeans 8.1?
[08:04] <Walker> i wonder if you could install xp at all, did it have UEFI? :D
[08:05] <spectre123123> Did anyone try the raid 1 ?
[08:05] <spider_> I want to run Restore CDs on different computers for setup:)
[08:05] <phablet> hi
[08:06] <spider_> I want to run Restore CDs of different computers on assembled computers?
[08:06] <spectre123123> on a new computer with two hard disks
[08:06] <spider_> UEFI is related to that..?
[08:06] <spider_> How to changes BIOS settings?
[08:07] <Walker> if your system is configured to only allow UEFI installs, sure
[08:07] <spider_> how to know more about UEFI?
[08:07] <Walker> Newer hardware has a legacy option you need to turn on manually
[08:07] <crackpotmark>  spider_: Check with your motherboard manufacturer, they all have slightly different settings
[08:07] <Walker> Can be called legacy bios or bios+uefi
[08:09] <spider_> Tell me some good BIOS tools?
[08:09] <Walker> What do you mean by tools, its shipped with your motherboard firmware
[08:11] <EriC^^> spider_: if you're booted into ubuntu now, type "ls /sys/firmware/efi" it should give dirs if you're using uefi
[08:11] <EriC^^> spider_: i think vm is a very good idea
[08:12] <EriC^^> it will still be rocket fast
[08:12] <EriC^^> oh btw, you cant install winxp in newer laptops
[08:12] <EriC^^> (i tried, i had to use a very old software that works with xp)
[08:12] <EriC^^> it gives a BIOS compatibility issue for anything newer than 2016
[08:13] <crackpotmark> No USB, no network, no ps2. Enjoy XE
[08:13] <EriC^^> ACPI compliant fault
[08:13] <EriC^^> VM can use usb and network
[08:14] <crackpotmark> Of course
[08:14] <EriC^^> spider_: how new/old is your laptop anyways?
[08:14] <crackpotmark> Just chuckling over some fun I've had with unusual hardware and a clean XP install
[08:15] <EriC^^> spider_: type "sudo dmidecode | grep -i release"
[08:15] <EriC^^> it gave me a hard time, i ended up using win7 cause the software works with compatibility mode on :D
[08:17] <mouses> EriC^^: 92.5% sure you're responding to obvious troll :-)
[08:19] <EriC^^> nah my money's on he's serious
[08:40] <Golynx> I've been having this issue a few days now when doing "sudo apt-get update". It stops at "0% [Connecting to archive.getdeb.net (144.76.200.19)] then fails  https://cdn.pbrd.co/images/HAtA3E1.png
[08:41] <Golynx> i'm on 16.04
[08:41] <crackpotmark> I don't recall getdeb being an official repo?
[08:42] <Golynx> crackpotmark: i dont know whats wrong
[08:42] <crackpotmark> Ah it's a mirror, appears to be offline a lot
[08:43] <crackpotmark> Any idea why you use it?
[08:43] <Golynx> crackpotmark: i see. It may be a package that uses it . not sure which one
[08:47] <elichai2>  Hey, something weird happenned, I turned on my laptop today plugged to my screens and everything is small, like the resolution is higher but it's actually not, it's still 1080P
[08:55] <crackpotmark> Golynx: dpkg --list $(aptitude search '?narrow(?version(CURRENT),?origin(archive.getdeb.net))' --disable-columns -F%p)
[08:55] <crackpotmark> See if that works
[08:58] <crackpotmark> Hopefully will give you a list of any packages from that repo
[08:58] <crackpotmark> Or an error because I typed it wrong
[09:02] <Golynx> crackpotmark: its showing like a hundred or so packages https://cdn.pbrd.co/images/HAtKuT7.png
[09:04] <Golynx> crackpotmark: i saw on google you have to add another mirror to getdeb.net in software sources
[09:09] <crackpotmark> There are alternatives yes
[09:14] <crackpotmark> You need to be careful switching or removing repos
[09:14] <crackpotmark> It can cause broken dependencies
[09:20] <Golynx> crackpotmark: i unchecked archive.getdeb.net in Other Software in Software & Updates. Now i'm able to sudo apt-get update without issues https://cdn.pbrd.co/images/HAtR4gW.png
[09:21] <crackpotmark> I think my command was broken, or getdeb is a complete mirror of the main repo
[09:22] <Golynx> crackpotmark: yes maybe. But if i get issues like broken packages, i will just nuke 16.04 and start over
[09:45] <cocoa> I want to add my new font to gonome terminal. Where should I put this font file so gnome-terminal can see it and list it to me?
[09:45] <dsource> Hi. Maybe someone can help I installed Ubuntu 18.04.1 LTS but after added all uptdate, Java, Inteliji, Maven etc Ubunt has stooped working. Now Ubuntu start  with gnome, after couple second cursor, mouse, touchpad not working as well as any other options. Any advice
[09:47] <boogi> Hey guys!
[09:48] <boogi> Can anyone help me with my networking issues?
[09:50] <Metacity25> |                                  ___
[09:50] <Guest17118> Is anybody here?
[09:50] <lotuspsychje> Guest17118: we read you, do you have a question?
[09:53] <Guest17118> Hello?
[09:59] <ren0v0> Hi, i'm copying some files in nautilus and it's not asking me about overwriting, its just doing it
[09:59] <ren0v0> how can i stop nautilus from overwriting ?
[10:05] <cocoa> How to add my font to custom fonts in gnome-terminal?
[10:07] <lotuspsychje> !fonts | cocoa
[10:19] <cocoa> lotuspsychje: I know how to insatll a font. The question is how to add it to a list in gnome-terminal. There only a couple of fonts available there but not all.
[10:30] <ren0v0> how can i stop nautilus from overwriting ?
[10:31] <guiverc> cocoa, i just looked at my list of fonts in gnome-terminal - it's large.   just add some more monospace fonts (I'm guessing the fonts you're not seeing are proportional & thus make no sense in a terminal)
[10:35] <cocoa> guiverc: what you mean by adding?
[10:37] <guiverc> the link lotuspsychje has already provided told you how to add (install) fonts.. terminals use monospace fonts (characters are set widths, so they are in columns), so you need to add (install) monospace fonts for terminals (there are tons of choices; my 'large' list was 197 choices for gnome-terminal..; too many!)
[10:38] <cocoa> I want to add DejaVu Sans Mono for Powerline
[10:38] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[10:38] <cocoa> I have this font at /home/artur/.local/share/fonts
[10:39] <cocoa> but gnome-terminal doesn't list it.
[10:39] <guiverc> have you re-created your font cache (fc-cache, esp. using user directory)?
[10:40] <cocoa> yes i did
[10:40] <cocoa> Maybe I should reboot machine/
[10:41] <guiverc> can't see how a reboot would fix; at most a logout & login would be needed...
[10:41] <guiverc> (okay a reboot owuld accomplish the same as logout/login - sorry just my reaction to reboot..)
[10:42] <cocoa> Sometimes when something doesn't work properly nor work at all It's good idead to reboot pc.
[10:43] <guiverc> you're obviously a windoze user  -- did you close & re-open the terminal?
[10:46] <cocoa> yes I closed all isntances
[10:48] <guiverc> cocoa, i don't know sorry; I'd try copying to system directories though wouldn't really expect different results.  I recall reading reasons why not all monospace fonts are used by terminals, but sorry I can't recall what I read (was probably years ago) be different
[10:48] <cocoa> thanks for helping anyway
[10:49] <guiverc> https://github.com/ryanoasis/nerd-fonts/issues/270  - may provide clues..
[10:56] <crackpotmark> guiverc: is it really necessary to use the term 'windoze'
[10:56] <elichai2> any one?
[10:57] <Chex13>        _.+._
[10:57] <Chex13>      (^\/^\/^)
[10:57] <Chex13>       \@*@*@/
[10:57] <Chex13>       {_____}
[10:57] <Chex13>     /)))))))))
[10:58] <crackpotmark> elichai2: I'm no expert in resolution, but does it affect every software, or just the desktop environment?
[10:59] <rm2> hello
[10:59] <l0llip0p> rm2: hello
[10:59] <lotuspsychje> crackpotmark: guiverc had a keyboard typo, no reason start offense
[10:59] <elichai2> crackpotmark: almost all, but not everything, idk what's the common thing between them but it affetct Konsole, CLion, the notifications and the Plasma itself, but not Chrome and Electrum apps
[11:01] <elichai2> It's like the KDE text size got smaller
[11:02] <hateball> elichai2: did you change font size or DPI?
[11:02] <elichai2> Nope
[11:02] <hateball> so it's still the default 96 DPI?
[11:02] <elichai2> how do I check?
[11:03] <effortDee> i had a message saying ubuntu 18.04 is aavailable and to 'upgrade' im on 16.04 will that work if i click it?
[11:03] <hateball> elichai2: alt+space -> search for "font" and check the settings
[11:03] <elichai2> hateball:
[11:04] <l0llip0p> effortDee: Yes it should
[11:04] <hateball> elichai2: make sure you havent forced any different DPI or something
[11:04] <effortDee> i might do it later, but im scared
[11:04] <elichai2> hateball: the forced is grayed out and says 96
[11:04] <ren0v0> why the bloody hell is nautilus overwriting files without asking me ?
[11:04] <l0llip0p> effortDee: Just pack up your personal data if you feel insecure
[11:04] <ren0v0> I've checked dconf-editor and can't see an option
[11:05] <hateball> elichai2: and fonts are a standard 10,9,8,10,10,10 I guess?
[11:05] <elichai2> hateball: Yep
[11:05] <hateball> Hmmm.
[11:06] <puc> lol
[11:07] <hateball> elichai2: what does this report: xdpyinfo |grep dots
[11:09] <elichai2> hateball: `  resolution:    75x75 dots per inch`
[11:09] <hateball> elichai2: so the Xorg DPI is set to 75 instead of 96 for some reason
[11:10] <elichai2> hateball: the results from xdpyinfo are really weird, they say I have 1 screen which is 3840x1080, but that's not true
[11:10] <elichai2> my laptop physical screen is 4k but it's closed, i'm connectd to 2 external 1080P displays
[11:15] <guiverc> crackpotmark, no it's not - sorry everyone.
[11:17] <maurizioroba> Hi
[11:17] <maurizioroba> BitDefender
[11:17] <maurizioroba>  http://www.bitdefender.com/
[11:17] <maurizioroba> Please enter "accept" if you agree to the License Agreement.
[11:17] <maurizioroba> Enter anything else if you don't agree to the terms in the License Agreement.
[11:17] <maurizioroba> The installation process will stop.
[11:17] <maurizioroba> accept
[11:17] <maurizioroba> Installing BitDefender Antivirus Scanner v7.7-1 ...
[11:18] <hateball> elichai2: hmmm, I don't know then, I dont have a 4k monitor. probably the same scaling is used across all screens
[11:19] <maurizioroba> install.sh: 41: install.sh: rpm: not found
[11:19] <elichai2> hateball: it's not about that I use my "4k" monitor as 1080P so I won't have scaling problems
[11:19] <hateball> hmmm
[11:19] <johnson_> can any one give me list    -H, --dereference-command-line
[11:19] <elichai2> hateball: everything worked great until this morning
[11:19] <johnson_> can any one give me list    -H, --dereference-command-line example
[11:19] <crackpotmark> maurizioroba: rpm is not part of Ubuntu, what Linux are you using
[11:19] <Richard_Cavell> leftyfb, are you the same person as leftyb ?
[11:20] <maurizioroba> ubuntu 18.04
[11:20] <Richard_Cavell> xar-, are you the same person as Xard?
[11:21] <hateball> elichai2: guess you could try forcing DPI, "xrandr --dpi 96" but I dont know
[11:21] <crackpotmark> maurizioroba: also, please don't post large amount of text, use paste.ubuntu.com
[11:22] <maurizioroba> I can't to install bitdefender for unices
[11:23] <guiverc> maurizioroba, rpm (red hat package management) is not used by ubuntu; check to see if they have a script for debian/ubuntu.. but you can install rpm's on ubuntu (yourself); but i'd evaluate the install script to see if anything else would be a problem first..
[11:24] <guiverc> maurizioroba, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RPM/AlienHowto  contains info on converting rpm to deb; I've not used it, as I've just installed the rpm manually...  (but not in a long time)
[11:24] <blackflow> !paste | maurizioroba
[11:27] <elichai2> hateball: I ranned it now what? haha, it changed the xdpyinfo but nothing else
[11:29] <crackpotmark> maurizioroba: it's also worth saying, an antivirus is not generally required for Linux, due to the extremely slim chance of infection coupled with the use of official and ceteralised software distribution
[11:29] <crackpotmark> Centralised *
[11:29] <hateball> elichai2: :|
[11:30] <hateball> elichai2: then I dont know what else to try, sadly not my area of expertise :|
[11:30] <elichai2> :\
[11:31] <maurizioroba> I have a passion for antivirus
[11:32] <maurizioroba> I like test these
[11:34] <lotuspsychje> !security | maurizioroba start here
[11:37] <crackpotmark> Oh it has a section for bitdefender and a repo.
[11:40] <lotuspsychje> elichai2: there is also a section in dconf-editor for screen and scaling options
[11:40] <blackflow> crackpotmark: yeah. the "extremely slim chance" for linux malware is no longer the case, hasn't been quite some time. the question is only how many of the known vulns are being exploited through trojans/stuff listed in those databases.
[11:41] <lotuspsychje> +1 blackflow
[11:41] <elichai2> lotuspsychje: downloaded, where is the scaling there?
[11:42] <lotuspsychje> elichai2: lemme check holdon
[11:43] <leftyfb> Richard_Cavell: since there's nobody by that name anywhere on Freenode, I'm going to go with no
[11:43] <elichai2> lotuspsychje: I found something in `org>gnome>desktop>interface`, but the scaling-factor there is 0 and the text-scaling-factor is 1
[11:44] <lotuspsychje> elichai2: com/ubuntu/user-interface too
[11:44] <elichai2> I don't have com
[11:45] <lotuspsychje> elichai2: have you tryed change your screens like mirror-stretched?
[11:46] <lotuspsychje> elichai2: sometimes a reload/change can make screens straight again
[11:54] <elichai2> lotuspsychje: tried restarting :\
[11:54] <lotuspsychje> elichai2: when did this start to happen?
[11:54] <elichai2> lotuspsychje: I managed to fix it
[11:54] <lotuspsychje> elichai2: what did the trick?
[11:54] <elichai2> I just forced the DPI to 96 in the Fonts GUI
[11:55] <elichai2> bad solution but it worked
[11:59] <bogusjokes> hello, newest updates totally broke my ubuntu installation
[11:59] <bogusjokes> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[11:59] <bogusjokes>  gnome-shell : Depends: libmutter-2-0 (>= 3.28.3-1~ubuntu18.04.1) but 3.28.2-2~ubuntu18.04.1 is to be installed
[11:59] <bogusjokes> what the hell?
[12:00] <bogusjokes> why does gnome-shell require a newer mutter dependancy than is available in the archive?
[12:00] <_puneet_> Netbeans 8.1 cannot run...please help.
[12:00] <yeats_> bogusjokes: APT cache may be out of date? (try 'sudo apt update' then 'sudo apt -f install')
[12:01] <_puneet_> what should I do to run netbeans 8.1 on ubuntu 18.04?
[12:01] <lotuspsychje> bogusjokes: did you install external ppa's of any kind to your system?
[12:02] <bogusjokes> done that yeats_
[12:02] <JimBuntu> _puneet_, is there more detail you can provide, perhaps through a paste?
[12:02] <JimBuntu> !paste | _puneet_
[12:03] <bogusjokes> i have ppas, but its not the problem lotuspsychje
[12:03] <_puneet_> "Turning on modules..." in loading but it gets closed after that, the programs stops
[12:03] <lotuspsychje> bogusjokes: it mostly is the root of the problem.
[12:03] <yeats> bogusjokes: can you pastebin the output of 'apt-cache showpkg libmutter'?
[12:03] <ioria> bogusjokes, you probably have -bionic-proposed  enabled
[12:04] <_puneet_> It reaches "Turning on modules..." in loading but it gets closed after that, the programs stops.
[12:04] <bogusjokes> problem lotuspsychje is that the ubuntu archive upgraded my gnome-shell to version 3.28.3-0ubuntu0.18.04.2 but there is no matching dep for libmutter-2-0
[12:05] <bogusjokes> https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic-updates/gnome-shell
[12:05] <bogusjokes> https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic-updates/libmutter-2-0
[12:05] <bogusjokes> check version numbers there
[12:05] <bogusjokes> someone must have messed up?
[12:05] <ioria> bogusjokes, you probably have -bionic-proposed  enabled
[12:06] <bogusjokes> did it enable it by itself then ioria?
[12:06] <ioria> bogusjokes, no, you did it
[12:06] <lotuspsychje_> lol
[12:06] <bogusjokes> since i never have enabled it, it is not enabled
[12:06] <ioria> ok
[12:07] <bogusjokes> try it yourself, do an full upgrade, reboot and enjoy a nice tty window instead of gdm
[12:07] <lotuspsychje_> bogusjokes: hastebin us outout of your sources.list please
[12:08] <bogusjokes> the list is -updates, -backports, -security, alexlarssons flatpak ppa, graphic-drivers ppa, libretro ppa and lutris obs archive
[12:08] <ioria> bogusjokes, interesting
[12:09] <bogusjokes> no funky business there
[12:09] <bogusjokes> the problem is that my gnome-shell got upgraded and required a newer version of a dep thats not upgraded in the -upgrades archive
[12:09] <lotuspsychje_> bogusjokes: how about the full output of: sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade please
[12:09] <lotuspsychje_> lets c whats going on there
[12:10] <ioria> bogusjokes, i think i wont update my system today
[12:10] <bogusjokes> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/BY38H2Fkyd/
[12:11] <bogusjokes> problem is not my sources, problem is someone messed up
[12:11] <bogusjokes> it doesnt matter too much to me, but i figured i'd mention it
[12:11] <bogusjokes> too many people won't be happy getting greeted by a tty after an upgrade
[12:12] <ioria> bogusjokes, so what you did ? upgraded libmutter-2-0 or what ?
[12:12] <bogusjokes> there is no upgrade for limutter-2-0, that's the problem
[12:13] <ioria> bogusjokes, yes, in proposed
[12:13] <bogusjokes> newest upgrade of gnome-shell package from -updates archive requires it
[12:13] <yeats> bogusjokes: if you can pastebin the output of 'apt-cache showpkg libmutter' it will help us troubleshoot
[12:13] <bogusjokes> yeah, but gnome-shell that requires a mutter from -proposed should not be in -upgrades
[12:14] <u0_a397> install tmux
[12:14] <yeats> bogusjokes: perhaps the same for gnome-shell
[12:14] <u0_a397> sudo apt tor
[12:14] <bogusjokes> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/qgsW89HqDT/
[12:14] <u0_a397> sudo apt install tor
[12:15] <u0_a397> sudo apt install tor
[12:15] <bogusjokes> yeats: apt-cache showpkg for libmutter-2-0 and gnome-shell
[12:15] <lotuspsychje> u0_a397: not here please
[12:15] <u0_a397> sudo apt install debx
[12:15] <pax_rhos> okay, I got tired of this sh!t, my ubuntu keeps telling me that some domain names are not resolved
[12:15] <pax_rhos> that happens for random requests
[12:15] <lotuspsychje> u0_a397: can you stop that please, only ubuntu questions here
[12:16] <pax_rhos> the next one to the same domain happening immediately after may get sent successfully
[12:16] <pax_rhos> I use 8.8.8.8 (google dns)
[12:16] <pax_rhos> so dns is not at fault
[12:16] <pax_rhos> WHAT THE F
[12:17] <lotuspsychje> pax_rhos: please remain calm, start from the beginning, ubuntu version, kernel,whats happening when
[12:17] <JimBuntu> pax_rhos, just because you use 8.8.8.8 doesn't mean the DNS is not at fault, but let's work this out
[12:17] <ioria> bogusjokes,  and from tty, does restarting gdm3 service work ?
[12:17] <yeats> bogusjokes: yeah, that definitely looks like an error on the repo end
[12:17] <bogusjokes> does not work yeats
[12:17] <yeats> not sure what the remedy for that is
[12:17] <pax_rhos> lotuspsychje: ubuntu 18.04 bb, happened on last ~30 kernel versions
[12:18] <bogusjokes> installation of the package is broken
[12:18] <bogusjokes> the remedy is wait until libmutter-2-0 gets uploaded to the -updates archive
[12:18] <yeats> bogusjokes: right
[12:18] <lotuspsychje> pax_rhos: we are now at .32 kernel
[12:18] <pax_rhos> I use computer, computer is connected to the internets, I browse cat memes in the browser, all of a sudden I get `can't resolve domain name` errors. randomly.
[12:18] <bogusjokes> personally i dont care, just figured that i might tell it here so some ubuntu dev might see it and realise that it needs to be fixed
[12:19] <pax_rhos> lotuspsychje: 4.15.0.32 here
[12:19] <pax_rhos> I have this issue for months
[12:19] <lotuspsychje> bogusjokes: can you check if this is related? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdm3/+bug/1780986
[12:19] <pax_rhos> it drives me mad
[12:19] <yeats> bogusjokes: nah - this channel doesn't really have ubuntu devs - you might open a bug for it though
[12:20] <bogusjokes> don't think so lotuspsychje because i cant reinstall ubuntu-desktop, since it complains over broked deps for gnome-shell with libmutter-2-0
[12:20] <ioria> bogusjokes, if you need a gui, go with unity-session
[12:20] <lotuspsychje> bogusjokes: ok
[12:20] <pax_rhos> resolve.conf has 2 entries: `nameserver 8.8.8.8` and `nameserver 127.0.0.53` I don't know what that hell is the latter
[12:20] <JimBuntu> bogusjokes, if you have experienced this for ~30 kernels, that seems like quite a while. Do you remember how you set 8.8.8.8 as your DNS?
[12:20] <ioria> bogusjokes, it does not use mutter
[12:21] <JimBuntu> sorry bogusjokes I think I meant pax_rhos
[12:21] <bogusjokes> i have a gui ioria, installed kubuntu-desktop to get on irc and tell about this
[12:21] <pax_rhos> JimBuntu: I don't really remember, but probably did it incorrectly, just by editing resolve.conf
[12:21] <ioria> bogusjokes, ah,ok
[12:21] <pax_rhos> *resolv.conf
[12:21] <ioria> lotuspsychje, are you on 18.04 ?
[12:21] <bogusjokes> as i said before, it doesnt affect me so much really, but might cause problems for a lot of other people today who updates and reboots and is greeted only by a tty and broked installation
[12:21] <lotuspsychje> yes ioria
[12:22] <ioria> lotuspsychje, did you run the upgarder ?
[12:22] <ioria> *upgrader
[12:22] <lotuspsychje> ioria: no, clean install
[12:22] <pax_rhos> `127.0.0.53 is the systemd-resolved stub resolver.` from comments in that file
[12:22] <pax_rhos> it is probably at fault
[12:22] <ioria> lotuspsychje, no, i mean... did you update your system today ?
[12:22] <maurizioroba> good bye
[12:22] <pax_rhos> >:[
[12:23] <ioria> bogusjokes, of course
[12:24] <lotuspsychje> ioria: yes
[12:25] <lotuspsychje> ioria: want me to look something up in dpkg?
[12:26] <ioria> lotuspsychje, your gnome-shell version, please
[12:26] <lotuspsychje> ioria: 3.28.2-0ubuntu0.18.04.1
[12:27] <ioria> lotuspsychje, it's not updated then....  please check   apt-cache policy gnome-shell   (the candidate version)
[12:28] <u0_a397> sudo apt install debx
[12:29] <u0_a397> sudo apt install debx
[12:29] <lotuspsychje> ioria: holdon, updating
[12:30] <ioria> lotuspsychje, wait ...
[12:30] <pax_rhos> fucking ubuntu
[12:30] <ioria> lotuspsychje, you 're talking about a wrong update
[12:30] <kiriuha> apt-ftparchive generate apt.conf
[12:30] <kiriuha>  .: 3 files 1,781 kB 0s
[12:30] <kiriuha> Packages done, Starting contents.
[12:30] <kiriuha> Done. 1,781 kB in 3 archives. Took 0s
[12:30] <kiriuha> apt-get --allow-unauthenticated -o Dir::State::Lists=/home/kiriuha/lists.apt -o Dir::Cache::pkgcache=/home/kiriuha/pkgcache.bin -o Dir::Cache::srcpkgcache=/home/kiriuha/srcpkgcache.bin --allow-unauthenticated -o Dir::Etc::sourcelist=/home/kiriuha/sources.list.destdir -o Dir::Etc::sourceparts=#clear -o APT::List-Cleanup=false -o Debug::NoLocking=true update
[12:30] <kiriuha> Get:1 file:/home/kiriuha ./ InRelease
[12:31] <lotuspsychje> ioria: did full-upgrade no new gnome-shell
[12:31] <lotuspsychje> ioria: candidate: 3.28.3-0ubuntu0.18.04.2
[12:32] <ioria> lotuspsychje,  i'am lost if candidate is  3.28.3-0ubuntu , full-upgrade should have installed it
[12:33] <bogusjokes> it sure did for me ioria ;)
[12:33] <lotuspsychje> ioria: lemme reboot holdon
[12:33] <ioria> lotuspsychje,  ok
[12:33] <u0_a397> f
[12:33] <u0_a397> hi
[12:33] <kiriuha> hello
[12:33] <ioria> bogusjokes, let's see
[12:35] <ioria> lotuspsychje,  all good ?
[12:36] <lotuspsychje> ioria: same, higher candicate
[12:36] <lotuspsychje> 3.28.3-0ubuntu0.18.04.2
[12:36] <ioria> lotuspsychje,  sorry mate :   can you paste apt-cache policy gnome-shell   , thanks
[12:37] <lotuspsychje> ioria: hmm wait, now update says: gnome-shell-common is held back
[12:37] <ioria> lotuspsychje,  here we are
[12:37] <ioria> lotuspsychje,  apt list --upgradable
[12:38] <lotuspsychje> ioria: https://hastebin.com/jacayuguna.apache
[12:39] <ioria> lotuspsychje,  ok  apt-cache policy gnome-shell
[12:39] <u0_a397> h
[12:39] <lotuspsychje> ioria: https://hastebin.com/cujaxeqube.sql
[12:40] <ioria> lotuspsychje,  and you did a full-upgrade,right ?
[12:40] <lotuspsychje> yes
[12:40] <lotuspsychje> perhaps its held back for a reason?
[12:40] <ioria> lotuspsychje,  yep :þ
[12:40] <lotuspsychje> lets go ask in -release
[12:41] <ioria> lotuspsychje,  ok, may thanks lotus
[12:41] <ioria> *many
[12:41] <lotuspsychje> ioria: asked in release
[12:42] <ioria> lotuspsychje,  good
[12:43] <ioria> bogusjokes, looks like apt stopped the upgrade to gnome-shell-common
[12:44] <bogusjokes> that's good, didn't for me though :P
[12:44] <gogg> I’m trying to set up live stream of my desktop. I have looked at ffmpeg and ffserver commands but I can’t make out who sets up the stream and why is a server needed
[12:45] <bogusjokes> might behave differently with the apply updates on shutdown checker in gnome that i used when shutting down earlier
[12:45] <lotuspsychje> bogusjokes: you slipped tru the maze of the matrix :p
[12:45] <ioria> bogusjokes, wondering why ...
[12:45] <gogg> Can anybody advise me on how to use ffmpeg/ffserver to set up a live stream ?
[12:45] <lotuspsychje> gogg: perhaps the ffmpeg channel?
[12:45] <bogusjokes> didn't use the updating tool or apt, so maybe gnomes reboot apply update box misbehaves with apt?
[12:46] <Drego_UP> Hi Guys, what is the best solution to migrate from Ubuntu Server 18.04 to Ubuntu Desktop 18.04? apt install ubuntu-desktop?
[12:47] <hateball> gogg: any reason why you would not use something like OBS Studio instead?
[12:47] <lotuspsychje> Drego_UP: i would go for a clean install
[12:47] <Drego_UP> Ok lotuspsychje thanks ;)
[12:48] <lotuspsychje> Drego_UP: server settings & desktop settings are so different, backup up procedure is too different dont you think?
[12:49] <gogg> lotuspsychje: I would try there as well. Just wanted to get an advice from this channel as well
[12:49] <test234> Wazzzup
[12:50] <gogg> hateball: I want to access stream over LAN. I tried a few desktop capturing applications but they would require internet. Im not sure if that is covered by what you suggested
[12:51] <hateball> gogg: https://obsproject.com/forum/resources/obs-studio-send-an-udp-stream-to-a-second-pc-using-obs.455/
[12:54] <Drego_UP> lotuspsychje: I installed the alternative server version because it allows me to create a RAID 0 + LVM more easily than the Desktop version! So I thought I could install after the desktop gnome :( I was wrong!
[12:54] <gogg> hateball: thank you for giving that suggestion. That will solve my problem
[12:54] <lotuspsychje> ioria: they investigating, sru team issue..
[12:55] <hateball> gogg: Good luck !
[13:01] <maurizioroba> Is alien converter good?
[13:06] <LinuxTabletUser> Hi
[13:11] <luna> http://ubuntupodcast.org/2018/08/23/s11e24-mr-penumbras-24-hour-bookstore/
[13:11] <luna> Listning to Ubuntu Podcast before heading too the dentist
[13:11] <lotuspsychje> !discuss | luna
[13:12] <lotuspsychje> come join us there
[13:12] <luna> too tired now
[13:12] <lotuspsychje> ok, bu not here in main please
[13:12] <luna> ok
[13:18] <Mr-Potter> xD
[13:18] <Mr-Potter> I love how someone changed the topic
[13:20] <pragmaticenigma> Mr-Potter: Do you have an Ubuntu related support question?
[13:20] <Mr-Potter> pragmaticengima: Yes but I've already asked it in #xubuntu sorry for going off topic
[13:25] <asdf1> On Ubuntu Bionic, added Region & Language > Input Sources > German, but does not work, why?
[13:26] <asdf1> I can switch en/de in top menu, but the keyboard layout remains en
[13:27] <pragmaticenigma> region and language is for text and locale information displayed on the screen... the keybaord is handled by a separate setting as chaning a persons region may not mean they have a new keybaord
[13:28] <asdf1> thank you
[13:38] <vavkamil> hello
[13:39] <vavkamil> can you recommend a clipboard manager for ubuntu 18.04, I was using "diodon" but it's not stable
[13:40] <lotuspsychje> !info gpaste | vavkamil
[13:41] <pragmaticenigma> vavkamil: This channel is dedicated for Ubuntu support related questions. For suggestions and recommendations for software, please join the #ubuntu-offtopic channel.
[13:41] <vavkamil> ok can you help me figure out why is diodon failing after update from 16.04 to 18.04?
[13:42] <lotuspsychje> vavkamil: errors please?
[13:42] <Mr-Potter> out of curiosity can a ubuntu install be upgraded from disc or only fresh installed?
[13:42] <Mr-Potter> If so then which one can be used
[13:44] <vavkamil> lotuspsychje, it's running and storing my clipboard, but sometimes the icon is no longer available in a main header sidebar
[13:45] <lotuspsychje> vavkamil: so what happens with the icon in the dock? dissapear or error sign?
[13:46] <vavkamil> icon in the header dock just dissapear and I must restart PC to get it back there. I was used to some apps with icon in the dock, for example keybase or spotify when running
[13:47] <lotuspsychje> vavkamil: did pin the icon to favorites in the dock?
[13:47] <vavkamil> lotuspsychje, Srry I mean a top panel, it's probably "taskbar" not a dock
[13:49] <lotuspsychje> vavkamil: ah you mean diodon indicator then?
[13:49] <vavkamil> yes seems like it's this issue https://bugs.launchpad.net/diodon/+bug/1738566
[13:50] <lotuspsychje> vavkamil: do you have gnome-tweak-tools installed?
[13:50] <lotuspsychje> vavkamil: doublecheck there if your indicators are enabled?
[14:13] <JimBuntu> Mr-Potter, https://sumtips.com/how-to/upgrade-ubuntu-using-iso-image-file/
[14:16] <Mr-Potter> JimBuntu: Good idea but the PC one is upgrading/repairing needs an internet connection. Meaniing that using this for a repair install will probably be fine but using this method to upgrade is pointless.
[14:17] <JimBuntu> Sorry Mr-Potter, I must have missed those details, I guess I didn't scroll far enough back.
[14:19] <qwebirc11612> hello everyone, could i get some help please. I installed google adwords editor with wine on ubuntu, but now I can't find the program in .wine and there's no uninstall in wine cfg
[14:19] <qwebirc11612> it got installed somewhere else
[14:27] <Guest63285> Hello
[14:28] <Guest63285> Anyone able o help with held back package error for gnome-shell-common?
[14:28] <Mr-Potter> JimBuntu: It's OK :P
[14:31] <ShutEyedBandit> Could anyone assist with this:
[14:32] <ShutEyedBandit> Nevermind, looks like more updates are rolling out.
[14:33] <ShutEyedBandit> Can anyone see these messages?
[14:33] <effortDee> yes ShutEyedBandit
[14:34] <ShutEyedBandit> I was getting a package held back error for gnome-shell-common, but it's been resolved.
[14:35] <ioria> ShutEyedBandit, not necessary an error,but yes should be solved now
[15:01] <elham> hello?
[15:04] <pragmaticenigma> !ask | elham
[15:06] <elham> Okay, my computer seems to be very slow. I tried to do some tweaks but none of them works. What should I do? I am using Ubuntu 18.04 Desktop
[15:08] <Guest36201> can anybody tell how to create folder in read only file permission partition
[15:08] <pragmaticenigma> elham: the description is "seems to be very slow" is something that you perceive and too general, we really can't help with that without specific examples, logs or something that can help us identify what might be creating the behavior you're experiencing.
[15:09] <Guest36201> please help..
[15:09] <pragmaticenigma> Guest36201: (himanshu) - If the location is readonly, you cannot create a file ... that defeat the purpose of the read only permission.
[15:10] <Guest36201> so how can i change this permission ...since i am admin
[15:10] <Guest36201> please tell
[15:10] <adrian_1908> Guest36201: you'd probably want to explore how the filesystem is being mounted, i.e. /etc/fstab flags
[15:11] <elham> OKAY, I checked the logs and I am not good at this thing. There is a lot of apps running in background. most of them are GNOME apps and I don't even use them.
[15:11] <pragmaticenigma> !patience | Guest36201
[15:12] <adrian_1908> elham: try running `top` and see if anything is eating CPU.
[15:13] <elham> Okay, I saw it. Oh, it was Epiphany and Empathy
[15:13] <pragmaticenigma> Guest36201: what you are asking is not possible. If the location you desire to write a file is read only, you cannot do anything. Admin or otherwise.
[15:13] <adrian_1908> elham: in particular, try `top -o TIME+` to get a descending list of offenders
[15:14] <adrian_1908> elham: I don't use Gnome, so i cannot comment on those. Hope you find a solution that works for you.
[15:14] <elham> Oh I am so sorry! I think I fixed the problem. I didn't realized that it was on the other workplace. I am sorry. I don't shut down my laptop.
[15:14] <Guest36201> ok thanks
[15:19] <die7> Hi, does ubuntu 14/16 support installing using kickstart on the floppy or usb like ks=hd:sdc/ubuntu14.cfg
[15:22] <pragmaticenigma> die7: The only information I can find on kickstart is here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KickstartCompatibility
[15:22] <pragmaticenigma> it is potentially outdated information
[15:23] <die7> pragmaticenigma: I know, I was searching for 1-2 h, I was able to install over http, but in this case I do not have network
[15:23] <safecoin> safecoin
[15:23] <die7> pragmaticenigma: so means kickstart+http runs fine
[15:24] <die7> pragmaticenigma: no chance t get it with usb/floppy
[15:24] <pragmaticenigma> die7: So you would need a kick start for installing from Full installation media (i.e. DVD installer)
[15:25] <die7> pragmaticenigma: once i switch to other tty I can mount floppy/usb and see my kickstart file
[15:25] <die7> pragmaticenigma: yes,,minimal install
[15:27] <die7> pragmaticenigma: Create a boot disk with the kickstart file, or make the kickstart file available on the network.
[15:27] <pragmaticenigma> die7: I haven't worked with kickstart before, so I'm trying to see if I can locate a better resource
[15:27] <Dyrcona> I often use the Alt-Right_Arrow and Alt-Left_Arrow key combinations to move through my browser history.
[15:28] <pragmaticenigma> die7: I thought you said the machine you're working with the floppy didn't have network access
[15:28] <die7> pragmaticenigma: no, that was on the oter one with network
[15:28] <Dyrcona> However, in the last week or two those combinations have started either throwing me to the login screen or bringing up a console.
[15:28] <pragmaticenigma> !enter | Dyrcona
[15:29] <die7> pragmaticenigma: means ks=http://serverip/kicksrat.cfg works
[15:29] <pragmaticenigma> die7: and now you are looking for the command that would let you read the kickstart from floppy/local device?
[15:29] <Dyrcona> pragmaticenigma: Sure, but I don't think it's that simple to explain, unless you want a wall of text.
[15:30] <die7> pragmaticenigma: normaly under centos/redhat is ks=hd:fd0 th efloppy or ks=hd:sdX/ usb
[15:30] <pragmaticenigma> Dyrcona: You're using enter as punctuation. It is preferred that you explain in as much detail in one line, to keep it grouped together... otherwise someone trying to help is likely to miss something
[15:31] <Dyrcona> How do I stop Alt-Right and Alt-Left from putting me on weird screens. I tried messing around in Keyboard Shortcuts and Google is no help. All I can find are irrelevant or unanswered posts.
[15:31] <pragmaticenigma> die7: Okay, so you're looking for the location to place there for the floppy/usb drive
[15:31] <die7> pragmaticenigma: the question is do the ubuntu installer supports installing using kickstart from usb/floppy or just http or bouild into ISO
[15:34] <pragmaticenigma> Dyrcona: when was the last time you logged out and in again. or rebooted the machine?
[15:34] <Dyrcona> Couple days ago.
[15:34] <pragmaticenigma> die7: I don't see anything explicately saying it can't. Though the documentation I found states Kickstart for Ubuntu only supports a limited subset of features.
[15:35] <pragmaticenigma> Dyrcona: And before that it was fine?
[15:35] <die7> pragmaticenigma: well will try to build it into ISo..however, thank you
[15:36] <Dyrcona> pragmaticenigma: No, I think it started before that, but I'm not 100% sure. I can try rebooting, now. I suspect it's a recent kernel change because I end up on consoles.
[15:36] <pragmaticenigma> die7: I did see a lot of recomendations for building custom ISOs instead of kickstart
[15:36] <die7> pragmaticenigma: me to..well lets do that :)
[15:36] <pragmaticenigma> die7: I have a feeling that's better supported, as much as it is a pain to implement
[15:37] <die7> pragmaticenigma: unf..it would be a great if installer would work with ext. devices..
[15:37] <pragmaticenigma> Dyrcona: I have had similar behavior with my system when pressing Alt + F2 ... it sends me to tty2 instead of bringing up the application launcher. When I toggle back to my desktop, the application launcher is available.
[15:38] <Dyrcona> pragmaticenigma: Yeah, when I get back to my desktop, the browser or other program has moved through its history.
[15:38] <Dyrcona> I'm going to reboot.
[15:38] <pragmaticenigma> die7: I'm sure there is a way, if only USB instal could pick up the kickstart on device
[15:38] <die7> pragmaticenigma: on the centos works as charm :)
[15:45] <Dyrcona> pragmaticenigma: Rebooting seemed to fix it.
[15:45] <pista7> halo
[15:49] <TabMasher> halo?
[15:49] <Aaron> hello TabMasher
[15:49] <TabMasher> Hello Aaron
[15:52] <Ascavasaion> I did a distribution upgrade too latest LTS and now machine hangs on boot.  I left it for a while and it goes into hibernation or standby mode.  I don't know how to roll back to old version and I need access to the computer urgently.
[15:54] <leftyfb> Ascavasaion: you don't roll back
[15:55] <Ascavasaion> leftyfb... then how do I regain access to the laptop?
[15:55] <viator_> hello friends, i am in need of your help with ubuntu 18.04, please
[15:55] <leftyfb> Ascavasaion: either someone here can help you with the issue, or boot a live cd and use that till you have time to fix it properly
[15:55] <leftyfb> !ask | viator_
[15:56] <viator_> the machine is old asus E205A convertible, i'm having issues with the screen rotation being 90 shifted degree counterclockwise
[15:57] <Ascavasaion> leftyfb... sigh... I would not know how to fix it.  cannot believe this happened.  I seriously need to do work on this computer tonight still.
[15:57] <viator_> ...being shifted 90 degrees counterclockwise. it apparently takes right input from the sensor, but turns the display wrong
[16:00] <JimBuntu> viator_, if no one ends up fixing this, try booting the device while rotated 90 degrees in the other direction, so it's at least usable. I have a laptop that does something similar if booted while rotated.
[16:01] <pragmaticenigma> Ascavasaion: We have been seeing a lot of issues similar to yours in this channel. Unfortunately the people have the best skill at troubleshooting and resolving aren't active or present at the moment. Most common issue has been the display drivers, setting using the nomodeset at boot has gotten some people into their desktops where they can troubleshoot further.
[16:02] <viator_> JimBuntu: i don't understand. you advise to hold it turned so that whatever culprit service will actually be deceived to change the degree of the shift?
[16:02] <viator_> i think i at least attempted to do this and it did not make a difference
[16:03] <JimBuntu> viator_, yes. It might stand as a workaround until someone can help you fix it permanently
[16:07] <Ascavasaion> pragmaticenigma... thank you.  would not even know how to do this nomodeset thing.  and I don't have time to spend Googling etc.  the work i need to do on this computer tonight is too urgent.
[16:07] <viator_> didn't work, the +90 degree shift is in fact inert to screen orientation
[16:11] <waterxx> guys Im having trouble finding option to permanently lower the brightness of the display on my laptop running lubuntu. In the options I can see settings for lowering it when its been Idle only.
[16:11] <viator_> JimBuntu: unfortunately that hasn't helped. and apparently other convertible functionality such as disabling touchpad when in tablet mode also does not work
[16:12] <JimBuntu> sorry to see that viator_
[16:12] <RedNifre> Alright, quest for today: Get umlauts working with AltGr and xmodmap...
[16:12] <waterxx> I also would like the computer to go to sleep after inactivity
[16:13] <waterxx> not sure if these options are even available
[16:13] <waterxx> I usually fall asleep watching videos so if it can go to sleep after like 2 hours of no touching keyboard/mouse that would be ideal.
[16:13] <RedNifre> Let me tell you a story: I have a German Thinkpad with an AltGr key and an .Xmodmap file that puts Umlauts on AltGr + A etc. This used to work with Unity, but somehow with the freshly installed Ubuntu 18.04 LTS it no longer works since it seems to interpret AltGr as a right Alt key... what could I do to fix this?
[16:14] <RedNifre> I assume the problem is that AltGr is somehow recognized as Alt, but any other way to let me add umlauts to a US Dvorak layout would be appreciated.
[16:15] <waterxx> is there anything external package i need to install to get all the power options working or should it work by default
[16:18] <viator_> JimBuntu: ...and it gets weird, just booted fedora 28 live and it's the same issue o.O
[16:23] <codecutter> how do list all runnning cron jobs?
[16:26] <codecutter> how do i remove a cron job?
[16:27] <mark721> Hi Guys, i just updated from 16.04 to 18.04.1 LTS
[16:27] <mark721> and im having a few problems
[16:27] <pragmaticenigma> mark721: you'll need to provide more details to get help.
[16:27] <mark721> Sure,
[16:28] <mark721> um let me share the screenshots with imgur then send my terminal :)
[16:30] <mark721> first it said upgrade aborted https://imgur.com/a/6N0YKlr
[16:31] <lotuspsychje> mark721: there are a few issues atm with updates
[16:31] <Xard> my built-in bluetooth started working after updates \o/
[16:32] <donpete> Guys.....Howdy? What is cooking in the chat room today?
[16:32] <lotuspsychje> mark721: i would reccomend it to idle here until things are solved
[16:32] <Xard> though the reception is really poor without an external antenna
[16:32] <lotuspsychje> donpete: this is not a chatroom, use #ubuntu-offtopic please
[16:33] <lotuspsychje> mark721: leave your system open like this ok, dont proceed until its fixxed
[16:33] <mark721> lotuspsychje, what do you mean?
[16:33] <donpete> the name is xchat... what do you mean it's not a chatroom?
[16:33] <root_kenzo69> hi
[16:33] <lotuspsychje> !chat | donpete
[16:34] <root_kenzo69> hi elflord
[16:34] <donpete> cool... so any interesting technical topics?
[16:34] <lotuspsychje> mark721: updates are now being worked on few issues on ubuntu-desktop 18.04
[16:35] <lotuspsychje> donpete: we dont do topics neither, only ubuntu support issues here
[16:35] <mark721> lotuspsychje, ok but I didnt know that lol so could I explain whwat I did?
[16:35] <donpete> so, there are bugs in the updates coming from the server
[16:35] <pragmaticenigma> !ops | donpete is way offtopic in main (as usual)
[16:36] <root_kenzo69> hello iam new member don't know something
[16:36] <popey> donpete: this is a support channel, not general chat. That happens elsewhere.
[16:36] <tonyyarusso> donpete: This channel is only for Ubuntu support, not general banter, or non-Ubuntu technical stuff either.
[16:36] <mark721> https://imgur.com/a/J1F4wNM Here it was saying stuff about ubuntu-desktop and gdm3
[16:36] <mark721> Afterwards it changed it mind and said Ubuntu has been upgraded
[16:36] <mark721> https://imgur.com/a/a6yQ8hI literally after I clicked "close"
[16:36] <popey> mark721: are you sat at that machine right now?
[16:36] <mark721> yes
[16:37] <mark721> im using it :)
[16:37] <root_kenzo69> KONTOLLL
[16:37] <root_kenzo69> KONTOLL
[16:37] <root_kenzo69> KONTOLL
[16:37] <popey> mark721: can you try "sudo dpkg --configure -a" and/or "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop^"
[16:37] <root_kenzo69> KONTOLL
[16:38] <mark721> popey, first one did nothing, second one said this https://pastebin.com/3V1JwdK4
[16:38] <popey> mark721: sudo apt install gdm3
[16:38] <popey> what does that do?
[16:39] <mark721> popey, https://pastebin.com/YyHcTLwY
[16:40] <popey> something very wrong there
[16:40] <popey> you were going 16.04 to 18.04?
[16:40] <mark721> yes
[16:40] <mark721> via the installer
[16:40] <popey> can you pastebin the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[16:40] <mark721> so the two images i sent you
[16:41] <lotuspsychje> popey: just checking you aware of thats being fixxed in-release currently?
[16:41] <mark721> were in chronological order, then I opened the terminal then it said i needed to autoremove 4 GB of stuff
[16:42] <mark721> popey, https://pastebin.com/UE849g8J
[16:43] <popey> mark721: if you "sudo apt update" and then re-try "sudo apt install gdm3 gnome-shell" what happens?
[16:43] <popey> lotuspsychje: I don't understand your question
[16:44] <lotuspsychje> popey: its not a question, there's currently issues with gnome-shell that being taken cared of in #ubuntu-release (scroll up there plz)
[16:44] <mark721> popey, https://pastebin.com/sx2Gghmw
[16:45] <popey> well that's broken :(
[16:45] <mark721> popey, btw
[16:46] <ioria> mark721, apt-get purge libappstream3
[16:46] <mark721> popey, this is what happened directly after closing those two dialogues https://pastebin.com/ghGajnUK
[16:46] <ioria> mark721, that is a xenial pkg
[16:46] <mark721> ioria, ok done what do i do now
[16:46] <popey> yeah, the apt-get update is failing
[16:47] <ioria> lotuspsychje, again apt update
[16:47] <popey> so it's not getting the package names from bionic,
[16:47] <lotuspsychje> ioria: sure lemme try
[16:47] <mark721> ioria, what you said removed it with no problems how do i proceed? a bit confused now :/
[16:47] <ioria> mark721, run again apt update
[16:48] <ioria> lotuspsychje, should be fixed now
[16:48] <mark721> https://pastebin.com/W5basvE9
[16:49] <lotuspsychje> ioria: yes, looking good now, kernel .33 and upgrades of packages!
[16:49] <ioria> mark721, better
[16:49] <mark721> ok so now what do i do :P
[16:49] <huck> Hi. I'm not able at using apt install. There is some problem with nvidia drivers. For example for installing 'htop' (I have already, but anyway): https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/6C4Pc87bfD/
[16:49] <ioria> mark721, sudo apt full-upgrade
[16:49] <huck> The problem is always: The following packages have unmet dependencies:  libglx-mesa0 : Depends: libglapi-mesa (= 18.0.0~rc5-1ubuntu1) but 18.0.5-0ubuntu0~18.04.1 is to be installed
[16:50] <nacc> huck: can you pastebin `apt-cache policy libglapi-mesa` ?
[16:50] <tonyyarusso> huck: Have you tried using the command it suggests?
[16:50] <huck> nacc, sure: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Bh6GRZVmKh/
[16:51] <huck> tonyyarusso, yes: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/26R9fhWxF5/
[16:52] <nacc> huck: err, sorry `apt-cache policy libglx-mesa0` ?
[16:53] <mark721> ioria, all done :D
[16:53] <huck> nacc, no problem: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/NjwqZtRPG5/
[16:53] <ioria> mark721, ok
[16:54] <mark721> ioria, ok how do i get gnome shell to activate :D
[16:54] <mark721> like it still looks like unity?
[16:54] <ioria> mark721,  apt-cache policy gnome-shell
[16:54] <mark721> ioria, confused then what
[16:55] <ioria> mark721,  please, pate it
[16:55] <ioria> *paste
[16:55] <mark721> https://pastebin.com/QbwmQspX
[16:55] <ioria> mark721,  apt-cache policy apt
[16:56] <nacc> huck: apt-cache policy nvidia-396 ?
[16:56] <mark721> ioria, https://pastebin.com/Y7j01k5X
[16:57] <huck> nacc, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/PgZg6XtzfW/
[16:57] <ioria> mark721,  apt-cache policy gdm3
[16:57] <nacc> huck: i'm guessing your ppa is busted, and is breaking other things. purge that ppa so you can fix your system
[16:58] <mark721> ioria, https://pastebin.com/GBJq8haN
[16:58] <huck> nacc, thanks. Can you help me on that, please? How to purge some ppa?
[16:58] <ioria> mark721,  last one :  ls /boot
[16:59] <mark721> ioria, https://pastebin.com/BYG5bHKy
[17:00] <nacc> huck: i'm about to be heads down on some work stuff, someone should be able to walk you through it
[17:00] <nacc> huck: but also you installed a 16.04 repository on an 18.04 system
[17:00] <nacc> huck: never a good idea
[17:01] <ioria> mark721,  ok, looks fine to me, reboot and you should see gdm3 login screen ,if not, gdm  has not been configured, and we'll try to fix it
[17:01] <mark721> Great see ya in a minute :D
[17:01] <huck> nacc, many thanks. I'm also searching the web. Good work
[17:06] <mark721> ioria, dude it's looking really cool :D
[17:06] <ioria> mark721,  ok, good job
[17:06] <mark721> I believe this is GDM, since the time is now in the centre at the top and exit button is on top right
[17:06] <lotuspsychje> cookie ioria :p
[17:06] <ioria> lol
[17:06] <mark721> ioria, just wanna say THANK YOU :d
[17:06] <ioria> mark721,  you're welcm
[17:07] <mark721> lotuspsychje, indeed, deserves a cookie :D (probably not what u meant :P)
[17:07] <mark721> although this livepatch thing is a bit odd
[17:07] <mark721> taking forever to sign in ?
[17:07] <mark721> why is it so slow
[17:07] <lotuspsychje> mark721: you mean the welcome screen?
[17:08] <mark721> lotuspsychje, well it said you need to do some updates, please enter your ubuntu SSO email and password account
[17:08] <lotuspsychje> mark721: yeah it needs your account one time
[17:08] <mark721> lotuspsychje, but this is stupidly slow like over a minute tryna sign in
[17:08] <mark721> idek if my password was right LOL
[17:08] <mark721> its still loading
[17:09] <mark721> lotuspsychje, one thing i dont get, why does it need my email to do updates?
[17:10] <lotuspsychje> mark721: livepatch is more then updates, it lets you apply new updates live, without reboot
[17:10] <pablo__> hello
[17:11] <mark721> lotuspsychje, what does that have to do with my email tho
[17:11] <mark721> lotuspsychje, like literally its still not signing me in....
[17:11] <mark721> i even clicked cancel but it wont
[17:11] <lotuspsychje> mark721: did you create an account?
[17:12] <mark721> i believe i have an ubuntu account?
[17:12] <lotuspsychje> mark721: well let me ask you first, do you 'need' livepatch?
[17:12] <mark721> no idea
[17:12] <mark721> lol i mean i have never had to reboot my pc? for an ubuntu update afaik in 16,04?
[17:12] <lotuspsychje> mark721: are you on  desktop or server?
[17:12] <mark721> desktop
[17:12] <pablo__> I don't login in X window system , the user/pass are correct, but don't login
[17:12] <lotuspsychje> mark721: in my opinion, i would not enable livepatch then
[17:12] <mark721> lotuspsychje, tell me more :)
[17:13] <lotuspsychje> mark721: do your updates and reboot after in your case?
[17:13] <pablo__> I'm from [alt]+F2 console
[17:13] <mark721> lotuspsychje, very rarely afaik i have needed to do that
[17:13] <lotuspsychje> mark721: what do you mean? updates come out very often
[17:13] <mark721> lotuspsychje, how do i force close this crap
[17:13] <mark721> lotuspsychje, like afaik i rarely need to reboot after updates.
[17:13] <mark721> ?
[17:14] <pablo__> and I don't understand this problem
[17:14] <mark721> anyway how do i just force close livepatch i will deal with it later lol
[17:14] <lotuspsychje> mark721: when updates ask you to reboot, you need to reboot right?
[17:14] <mark721> yes ofc
[17:14] <mark721> but im saying that rarely happens if i remember
[17:15] <mark721> like if chrome updates, i dont need to reboot,
[17:15] <mark721> idk maybe im crazy lol
[17:16] <CarlFK> you can keep running forever without rebooting, you wont' get some of the changes.
[17:16] <pablo__> hello
[17:17] <pablo__> maybe something is misconfigured in X
[17:18] <pragmaticenigma> pablo__: Please be a descriptive and detailed as you can. Your question is to vague to understand
[17:19] <Fausto> Quick question: I'm using "dd if=/dev/urandom of=sample.txt bs=64M count=16" to gen random file of 1GB in size, but "wc -c" reads a different size
[17:19] <Fausto> Wtf?
[17:19] <pablo__> I'm from the console, irssi , because lightdm don't let me login
[17:20] <pablo__> the pass is correct
[17:21] <pragmaticenigma> Fausto: Please mind your acronyms and language. Second, file sizes are not decimal, therefor 1 KB != 1000 B
[17:21] <pablo__> how
[17:22] <pragmaticenigma> 1073741824 Bytes = 1 GB
[17:22] <Fausto> pragmaticenigma: 1,000,000,000 = ?
[17:23] <Fausto> Sorry for the bad language
[17:23] <pragmaticenigma> Fausto: 0.9313 GB = 1,000,000,000 bytes
[17:24] <hggdh> 1,000,000,000 = 1 gibi
[17:24] <pragmaticenigma> Fausto: the better option for checking file sizes is "ls -h name_of_file.txt"
[17:24] <hggdh> see man units
[17:25] <viator> hi again, can anyone please advise me how to disable automatic screen rotation?
[17:25] <Fausto> pragmaticenigma: it is not working "ls -h"
[17:25] <Fausto> only displays the name
[17:25] <hggdh> Fausto: ls -lh
[17:26] <pragmaticenigma> Fausto: oops, hggdh has the missing option. sorry about that
[17:26] <viator> as stated above, i just installed on an asus E205A netbook and i get my display wrongly rotated additional 90 degrees clockwise in every position. Any advice on this please?
[17:26] <Fausto> pragmaticenigma: no worries, thank you for the suggestion. what is the difference between wc and ls?
[17:27] <Fausto> hggdh: thank you for "man units"
[17:28] <pragmaticenigma> Fausto: ls reports the filesize as it appears on the disk, wc reads the file and counts the bytes.
[17:29] <Fausto> pragmaticenigma: lol ok
[17:29] <pragmaticenigma> wc doesn't work well with binary files, which is what you are generating with urandom
[17:29] <hggdh> Fausto: if you just want the number of bytes in a file, either will work. 'ls' looks at the directory structure to get file size, 'wc' actually reads the file and counts.
[17:30] <hggdh> uh
[17:30] <hggdh> binary
[17:30] <hggdh> hum
[17:30] <pablo__> if I changed gdm with lightdm, the configuration file are different ?
[17:31] <pablo__> I try to reboot
[17:31] <pragmaticenigma> "wc" reads characters, which may be 8bit, 16bit, 32bit blocks depending on the encoding
[17:34] <Fausto> pragmaticenigma: Oh, wc will output only the number; ls shows more stuff
[17:34] <generic> how can I upgrade from xenial xenius ?
[17:34] <Fausto> I'm passing the size to a variable
[17:34] <lotuspsychje> !ltsupgrade | generic
[17:35] <generic> lotuspsychje, i had 18.04 from the beta but there is no update-manager
[17:36] <lotuspsychje> generic: are you on 16.04 right now?
[17:36] <generic> lotuspsychje, no 18.04
[17:36] <lotuspsychje> generic: why do you ask to upgrade from 16.04 then?
[17:37] <generic> lotuspsychje, how can I determine the version thats running just to be sure ?
[17:37] <lotuspsychje> generic: lsb_release -a
[17:41] <generic> lotuspsychje, no lsb installed
[17:42] <generic> where is the default place for .deb files that are downloaded ?
[17:42] <lotuspsychje> generic: did you have a good look?
[17:42] <hggdh> generic: lsb_release. Notice the underscore
[17:43] <hggdh> generic: and the parameter -a
[17:43] <generic> ok
[17:43] <generic> it is 16.04 after all
[17:44] <lotuspsychje> generic: so you want to upgrade to 18.04.1 are you sure?
[17:44] <generic> lotuspsychje, i need amdgpu to run Im on vesa now
[17:45] <lotuspsychje> generic: if you would like to test your hardware, we reccomend to test a liveusb first, if its runs okay, proceed to a real install?
[17:47] <generic> lotuspsychje, can I get amdgpu to run with 16.04 release ? its not a top shelf model its an old notebook
[17:47] <qwebirc39576> trying to get a NAS mount point with nfs file type on an ubuntu core installation (can't seem to post in that channel). The same mount command gave me a wrong fs type error which was easily fixed by installing nfs-common, which is not a package in ubuntu core
[17:47] <qwebirc39576> how do you get an nfs mount on ubuntu core?
[17:48] <lotuspsychje> !amd | generic
[17:53] <generic> ok I have the screen running now in a decent resolution
[17:53] <generic> thats good for now
[17:53] <generic> but I have problems to find the audio chip
[17:54] <generic> it only finds the hdmi
[17:59] <generic> ok graphics seems ok but i have audioproblems now
[17:59] <pragmaticenigma> generic: make sure you have a device plugged into the audio output of your sound card/port
[18:00] <generic> ok 1 sec
[18:00] <generic> still shows ati r6xx hdmi
[18:00] <generic> but nothing else
[18:01] <generic> with alsa
[18:01] <pragmaticenigma> generic: you may have to exit from the control panel and re-enter
[18:01] <generic> i dont have much of the apps in the panel installed
[18:02] <generic> what do I need ?
[18:02] <generic> pragmaticenigma, running xfce
[18:03] <pragmaticenigma> you don't need any at the moment... some sound cards provide a signal when a device is plugged into the output of card. When nothing is plugged in, pulseaudio detects there is nothing connected and does not offer that as an option
[18:03] <generic> ok i have pulseaudio
[18:03] <generic> will try later maybe ...
[18:03] <pragmaticenigma> generic: make sure you have something plugged into the headphone jack you want to use... try a reboot and see if that brings up the output
[18:04] <generic> ok cya then
[18:08] <ZaZaQR> oh ubuntu, your my favorite linux base operating system
[18:09] <hlmjr> mouses: That issue I was having was actually a problem with debootstrap. Downgraded and no libpng probs.
[18:11] <generic> ok reboot didnt change anyting
[18:12] <generic> pragmaticenigma, reboot didn't do the trick
[18:13] <generic> pragmaticenigma, also there is a laptop speaker that would work without headphones ...
[18:18] <ab_> Hey Guys.
[18:19] <ab_> I am looking for a step-by-step guide written by someone like a blog post or video to learn XChat.
[18:20] <ab_> Any suggestions?
[18:20] <ab_> Thank you in advance. :)
[18:21] <ZaZaQR> let me msg you ab_
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[18:23] <ZaZaQR> LOL
[18:27] <Gud> are there any usb installation images for ubuntu?
[18:27] <Gud> the download page is an iso but the documentation mentions them
[18:28] <ab_> @Gud: You can use UNetBootIt tool to have your USB version.
[18:29] <ZaZaQR> GUD, what operating system are you using?
[18:29] <ab_> @Gud: https://unetbootin.github.io/
[18:29] <Gud> ZaZaQR: FreeBSD
[18:30] <ZaZaQR> whoa
[18:30] <Gud> Im trying to set up a laptop for my parents
[18:30] <ZaZaQR> i never used that
[18:30] <ab_> You will find Windows, Linux and Mac versions.
[18:30] <Gud> lol dont worry I have windows install also
[18:30] <blackroot> only freebsd i ever tried is freenas. but i don't really have to do much with it lol
[18:31] <ZaZaQR> so, you trying install Ubuntu dual boot on your freebsd laptop?
[18:31] <pragmaticenigma> do not use unetbootin for making Ubuntu install USB drives
[18:31] <Gud> ZaZaQR: No, I bought my parents a laptop and now I want to install Ubuntu on it
[18:31] <ZaZaQR> oh okay
[18:31] <ab_> @Gud: Have you tried to use "dd" command to copy the image to your USB stick?
[18:31] <ZaZaQR> you can do that too
[18:31] <Gud> Its been my experience that writing iso files to usb disks is a hassle
[18:32] <ZaZaQR> you mean usb flash drive?
[18:32] <Gud> ZaZaQR: yes
[18:32] <pragmaticenigma> Gud: If you have a windows machine available, the ubuntu documentation recommends using Rufus for imaging. If you are already on a linux based machine, using "dd" is recommended
[18:32] <Gud> thanks
[18:32] <blackroot> rufus is good
[18:32] <pragmaticenigma> Gud: https://tutorials.ubuntu.com/tutorial/tutorial-create-a-usb-stick-on-windows#0
[18:33] <pragmaticenigma> Gud: https://tutorials.ubuntu.com/tutorial/tutorial-create-a-usb-stick-on-ubuntu#0
[18:33] <ZaZaQR> so if your using a windows laptop. you can simply download unetbootin. google it
[18:33] <blackroot> rufus completed iso to my sandisk usb in like 6 seconds
[18:33] <pragmaticenigma> ZaZaQR: I just got done stating that Ubuntu documentation does not recommend Unetbootin
[18:33] <ZaZaQR> oh
[18:33] <ZaZaQR> well, its the easiest way for windows
[18:34] <pragmaticenigma> ZaZaQR: No, it's not... following the directions is the easiest way: https://tutorials.ubuntu.com/tutorial/tutorial-create-a-usb-stick-on-windows#0
[18:34] <ZaZaQR> oh i heard of Rufus once, never used it
[18:34] <Gud> I already tried Rufus though
[18:34] <Gud> It complains about a syslinux version mismatch
[18:35] <ZaZaQR> ah
[18:35] <blackroot> then download the updated one
[18:35] <blackroot> you can do that from rufus
[18:35] <Gud> Yes I will try
[18:35] <blackroot> it asks to download it
[18:37] <ZaZaQR> i don't really like unetbootin, when a new version of ubuntu is out, and the unetbootin is outdated, you make the newest bootable flash drive of ubuntu
[18:37] <ZaZaQR> you can't*
[18:37] <ledeni> Gud: if you are freebsd user dd should do job to burn iso to usb
[18:37] <Gud> thx
[18:38] <ZaZaQR> it might take forever
[18:38] <anonymousstealth> not happy with ubuntu over privacy concerns.... is Canonical becoming another Microsoft
[18:38] <blackroot> i'd prefer rufus if there is a windows pc nearby. it's fast and reliable
[18:38] <Gud> Rufus is almost finished, lets see if it works
[18:39] <blackroot> did you get asked to download syslinux version?
[18:39] <pragmaticenigma> anonymousstealth: This is a support channel. You can air your complants in the #ubuntu-offtopic channel. Please remember the community guidelines. Also, these rooms are volunteer operated
[18:39] <ZaZaQR> i'm okay with the Amazon spyware lol. not really spyware
[18:39] <generic> pragmaticenigma: i cant figure out the sound output
[18:39] <ZaZaQR> come to #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:40] <pragmaticenigma> generic: I don't have any further suggestions at this time
[18:40] <generic> pragmaticenigma: there is a xfce plugin that lists the speaker
[18:40] <anonymousstealth> Sorry about that... its not a complaint, just an observation
[18:40] <generic> pragmaticenigma: or headphone
[18:40] <hfp> Hi all, I'm trying to debug iptables rules in a Ubuntu LXD container, so I'm using both the TRACE and LOG tragets. On my host machine, if I set a TRACE target, I can see the output in /var/log/kern.log. But in the container, that file doesn't even exist... Where does the TRACe go and how do I watch the output in the container??
[18:40] <xerf> howdy
[18:41] <generic> pragmaticenigma: says headphone plugged in
[18:41] <xerf> I have a cinnamon desktop environment question if someone can help?
[18:41] <ledeni> generic: use 'alsamixer' in terminal
[18:42] <pragmaticenigma> !ask | xerf
[18:42] <xerf> lol sorry...
[18:42] <pantato> hi, i'm having a little problem updating. There seems to be a unicode error describe here: https://paste.debian.net/1039046/ . I looked online and it looks like a simple fix i just need to put unicode-8 in a code file. I don't know the location of said file, though
[18:43] <xerf> I bounce between (stock) GNOME and Cinnamon DE.  Steam on GNOME doesn't have any tearing issues or like performance issues w/screen updates.  but on Cinnamon, it seems like it just drags and really affects the refresh of that monitor (any window on the monitor w/steam)
[18:43] <pragmaticenigma> pantato: are you running Ubuntu or Debian?
[18:43] <xerf> are there any issues w/steam on cinnamon or is there a way to debug that?
[18:44] <xerf> Ubuntu 18.04
[18:44] <tsglove> Hello.  Can somebody tell me what is the third line on this screenshot?   https://imgur.com/a/ncf5Wzr   Is that a route to 192.168.10.1   ?
[18:45] <pragmaticenigma> xerf: it could be the compositor (3d effects) differences between the two desktop environments... but I'm not certain
[18:45] <ZaZaQR> oh ic
[18:45] <xerf> ah ok
[18:45] <ZaZaQR> my steam works on ubuntu 18.04
[18:45] <xerf> what DE are you running ZaZaQR
[18:45] <ZaZaQR> gnome
[18:45] <xerf> yeah, on gnome it's perfectly fine
[18:45] <ZaZaQR> vanilla
[18:46] <blackroot> last time i tried steam on linux i used xfce
[18:46] <xerf> hehe...aahhh xfce
[18:46] <ask-ygU5AP56> hello
[18:46] <ZaZaQR> when i used ubuntu 18.04 alpha, before beta version. steam didn't work and it didn't work for 11.10
[18:46] <ask-ygU5AP56> steam works fine here too, well as fine as I see it can be working
[18:47] <ask-ygU5AP56> what does not however is the "correct" flow of choice of applications for particular files
[18:48] <ZaZaQR> on the steam website, it says you need the lastest version of ubuntu to get it to work
[18:48] <qwebirc31610> testing...
[18:48] <ask-ygU5AP56> i.e. on lxde upon removal of gedit, pcmanfm defaults to using libreoffice for default file view/edit instead of leafpad
[18:48] <ZaZaQR> or play games
[18:48] <ask-ygU5AP56> how to fix?
[18:48] <pantato> pragmaticenigma: ubuntu 16
[18:48] <ask-ygU5AP56> ZaZaQR, works fine on 64 bit 18.04 here
[18:48] <ZaZaQR> yeah me too ask-ygU5AP56
[18:49] <pragmaticenigma> pantato: there is no Ubuntu 16
[18:49] <teward> pantato: 16.04 or 16.10?  (There is no just "16")
[18:49] <qwebirc31610> hi all, can anyone offer some thoughts on Ubuntu in virtual machines? I could do with some advice on using real ext4 partition for the vm... thanks.
[18:49] <ask-ygU5AP56> I do use lxde though so may be that's a DE issue w/ steam
[18:49] <ZaZaQR> my only problem is that i have a 3K screen that is 13.3 inches big on my laptop. steam program is super tiny
[18:49] <ask-ygU5AP56> qwebirc31610, from what I recall, virtualbox has this ability. to use a physical hd
[18:50] <pantato> teward: sorry, i was wrong. Its 17.10
[18:50] <bluesmonk> can you fix my bash script? https://bpaste.net/show/f97113ca72ea
[18:50] <ask-ygU5AP56> qwebirc31610, https://www.serverwatch.com/server-tutorials/using-a-physical-hard-drive-with-a-virtualbox-vm.html here
[18:50] <teward> !17.10 | pantato
[18:50] <teward> upgrade to a supported release (18.04)
[18:50] <pragmaticenigma> bluesmonk: This is not a programming help channel, please try in a more appropriate channel
[18:51] <ask-ygU5AP56> qwebirc31610, using VboxManage you join the physical volume to a virtual one, readable by virtualbox-ose
[18:51] <bluesmonk> ok :(
[18:51] <ask-ygU5AP56> qwebirc31610, then proceed w/ virtualbox-ose as intended
[18:51] <qwebirc31610> thanks ask-ygU5AP56, I did read the VirtualBox manual and it does cover using real hdd partitions for the vm, but it doesnt really cover how to do this for a Windows (10) host sadly
[18:51] <ask-ygU5AP56> qwebirc31610, I recall qemu providing such option too
[18:51] <teward> qwebirc31610: if the host OS is Windows, then you need a Windows support channel
[18:51] <ask-ygU5AP56> qwebirc31610, then it's more of a windows 10 question innit
[18:51] <qwebirc31610> from my other research it does seem that this is quite non-standard usage and now I am starting to wonder if it should even be done
[18:52] <teward> because that's a Windows issue of "How do I do this on Windows for a VM"
[18:52] <ZaZaQR> wow, i didn't know the EOL for 17.10, i thought it would still be supported
[18:52] <ask-ygU5AP56> qwebirc31610, it's usage as any other - for example, in order to set up a new install one can boot into on another machine
[18:52] <pragmaticenigma> qwebirc31610: We cannot support Windows OS issues here... you need to seek out Virtual Box support channel for help
[18:53] <pragmaticenigma> qwebirc31610: Check out #vbox channel for more dedicated support for Virtual Box which will better provide you with support
[18:54] <ask-ygU5AP56> qwebirc31610, mayhap some perm issues or a different layout for the device in whatever win version you want to try it on?
[18:54] <qwebirc31610> i appreciate as i am using Windows host it does seem not ontpoic for around here but can i ask ... if my host was actually ubunut, is using an actual hdd partition for the vm hdd a bad idea? eg is it going to cause any problems/dataloss as the virtualbox manual even warns about possibility of dataloss
[18:54] <ask-ygU5AP56> qwebirc31610, honestly, you better be doing it the other way about, if using a separate version of win at all; wine is quite mature these days.
[18:54] <pragmaticenigma> ask-ygU5AP56: Windows specific problems are not supported here
[18:54] <ask-ygU5AP56> pragmaticenigma, d'oh
[18:55] <pragmaticenigma> qwebirc31610: The idea of mounting a physical hard drive in Virtual Box poses no harm if you know what you are doing. It's by design to be allowed so you can recover data off a device
[18:56] <ask-ygU5AP56> qwebirc31610, and d'oh to you; if you leave the drive alone, and provide the setup w/ steady power, until a hardware or software failure arises, you got the basics covered for obtaining success.
[18:56] <qwebirc31610> ok all thanks for the advice and apologies for the offtopic question in here - i will heaover to virtualbox irc ... thanks agin and bye ;o)
[18:56] <ask-ygU5AP56> no worries
[19:00] <pantato> teward: gee, thanks a lot
[19:09] <pragmaticenigma> pantato: We are all volunteers here and do our best to support what we can. Unfortunately your system is no long supported officially. Issues, such as the one you presented, are often due to EOL status of the system. The servers setup to support the older version are taken offline to be repurposed for new projects. Telling you to upgrade your system is the first step to resolving your issue.
[19:16] <qwebirc21554> Hi all. Just upgraded to Bionic Beaver... and everything works! And for once; the changes are really great!
[19:18] <emilio> Hi. Someone can help me with ubuntu 18.04.1 that boot in to terminal ?
[19:21] <ioria> emilio, you mean you don't get a gui desktop but a virtual console ?
[19:22] <emilio> ioria, yes no login gui
[19:22] <ioria> emilio, but you can login in console ?
[19:22] <emilio> yes
[19:23] <ioria> emilio, what happens if you run   sudo systemctl restart gdm3 ?
[19:23] <emilio> nothing
[19:24] <ioria> emilio, no output whatsoever ?
[19:24] <emilio> no output
[19:24] <ioria> emilio, sudo apt update    and notify us if you got errors
[19:25] <emilio> no errors... all package are update
[19:26] <ioria> emilio,sudo systemctl status gdm3
[19:26] <x_unknown_x> afternoon everyone
[19:27] <x_unknown_x> i just wanted to see if anyone else has ran into this issue: system goes to sleep mode and upon waking and logging back in, there are no previous running programs. Everything is closed
[19:28] <emilio> it says: Loaded: loaded (/etc/init.d/gdm3; generated) Active: active(exited)
[19:29] <ioria> emilio, looks like you're using upstart, not systemd ... ?
[19:29] <emilio> i dont know :-)
[19:29] <ioria> emilio,  please install pastebinit and run   sudo systemctl status gdm3 | pastebinit
[19:30] <ioria> emilio,  and tell us more about you system ... fresh install, upgraded from xenial ... ? what ?
[19:31] <emilio> fresh install
[19:31] <ioria> emilio,    sudo systemctl status gdm3 | pastebinit    , please
[19:32] <emilio> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/gsNGGyQYHy
[19:33] <ioria> emilio,     ps -A | head 2    and paste here the second line
[19:33] <ioria> emilio,     ps -A | head -2    and paste here the second line
[19:34] <emilio> 1 ?  00:00:02 systemd
[19:35] <ioria> emilio,   cat /etc/issue
[19:36] <emilio> Ubuntu 18.04.1 LTS \n \l
[19:38] <ioria> emilio,   cat /proc/cmdline
[19:38] <oy1r> does ubuntu still have that ugly unity look ?
[19:39] <emilio> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/VVQQSBb88M/
[19:40] <ioria> emilio,   current is 33 not 30, so cannot be updated
[19:41] <ioria> emilio,   as you said above
[19:41] <emilio> sorry...i've load a old kernel from grub. but i've the same error with the "last" -32
[19:41] <ioria> emilio,   latest is 33
[19:43] <emilio> ok ... so i've to update to 33?
[19:44] <ioria> emilio,  apt update should have notified you about that
[19:44] <emilio> apt says that all is update :-(
[19:45] <ioria> emilio,  ls /boot and check you have the -33 kernel installed
[19:46] <emilio> no...only 30 and 32
[19:46] <ioria> emilio, sudo apt full-upgrade
[19:47] <emilio> nothing
[19:47] <ioria> emilio, apt-cache policy linux-image-4.15.0-33-generic | pastebinit
[19:48] <emilio> -33 not found
[19:49] <ioria> emilio, apt-cache policy linux-image-4.15.0-33-generic | pastebinit
[19:50] <emilio> not work, says that it's try to send an empty document
[19:52] <ioria> emilio, apt-cache policy linux-generic | pastebinit
[19:52] <emilio> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/QbBdmyHhmZ
[19:53] <ioria> emilio,  change servers
[19:54] <emilio> how to do in terminal ?
[19:55] <circolo> iilo
[19:55] <ioria> emilio,  in terminal you need to edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[19:55] <circolo> iscrivetvi ad arraspo
[19:55] <rusty_> how can I search metapackages?
[19:55] <circolo> i'm ita
[19:55] <circolo> lol
[19:56] <Sven_vB> why don't I see changes in /proc/self/environ after putenv() (php) or export BLA= (bash)? man proc's description of environ notes no restrictions like "at process startup"
[19:56] <circolo> yes
[19:57] <circolo> yu y uifuhg6dfg
[19:57] <circolo>  i7youhnj
[19:57] <circolo> ù+àèù+
[19:57] <circolo>  ù+èfc
[19:57] <circolo> njhu+ù
[19:57] <circolo> bn h+èù+
[19:57] <emilio> ioria, it.archive.ubuntu.com is ok?
[19:57] <ioria> emilio,  maybe, i'd use Main or us
[19:58] <ioria> emilio, just type 'updates' in Search (Win key) and select it
[19:59] <ioria> emilio, sy, have to go, hope you solve it
[19:59] <emilio> thank you ioria
[20:14] <Seveas> Sven_vB: seems to work just fine
[20:15] <Seveas> starfire:~$ export FOO=bar
[20:15] <Seveas> starfire:~$ cat /proc/self/environ | tr '\0' '\n' | grep FOO
[20:15] <Seveas> FOO=bar
[20:15] <longus_catus> Is ubuntu compiled with 80486 support?
[20:16] <Seveas> longus_catus: no
[20:16] <longus_catus> That's authorative and helpful, thanks
[20:16] <Seveas> and I think we even require CMOV these days, but I'm not 100% sure
[20:16] <hggdh> at a minimum, PAE
[20:17] <longus_catus> Any ideas for a 486 tablet pc?  You know, those inch thick ones with resistive digitizers
[20:17] <Seveas> longus_catus: trashcan?
[20:17] <longus_catus> That's where I got it from
[20:17] <Seveas> put it back :)
[20:18] <longus_catus> Hmm, then I'll be bored and I already ordered an adapter to use a USB keyboard with the PS2 connector
[20:19] <Seveas> you can probably find a windows 3.11 or windows 95 somewhere
[20:19] <hggdh> 16.04 still has i386 images. But chances are there will be some weird hardware involved, so...
[20:20] <Seveas> hggdh: I don't think we supported 486 back then either
[20:20] <hggdh> Seveas: oh. Yes, indeed. Sorry.
[20:22] <longus_catus> I have the windows 3.11/95/98 part down.  Maybe it'll be ok once I can get past the cmos checksum error screen to just play around with that
[20:23] <JimBuntu> longus_catus, while this isn't #hardware, you'll probably need to open it up and replace the cmos battery, or if it's a rechargeable one, leave the device connected to power for long enough.
[20:24] <longus_catus> JimBuntu: It has a rechargeable one, but you have to enter the bios and save settings first before it'll ever boot
[20:24] <Seveas> "Support for i586 and lower processors, as well as for i686 processors without the cmov instruction, was dropped in Ubuntu 10.10."
[20:24] <Seveas> so you could try 10.04
[20:27] <menolCrap> Hola Drone
[20:27] <longus_catus> Wow, there's a v.22 softmodem plugin for asterisk.  That's cool.
[20:28] <menolCrap> Quiero hablar con alguien
[20:29] <menolCrap> Quiero hablar con alguien
[20:45] <Sven_vB> Seveas, that's because you use cat to read the file. it not only wastes memory and CPU for the subprocess, but more importantly, creates a new child process, and *that* child process will then find *its* environment in /proc/self/environ. try the same with </proc/self/environ tr '\0' '\n' | grep FOO
[20:46] <Sven_vB> Seveas, in that case the redirection, and thus filename resolution, happens inside the bash instance that exported the var.
[20:52] <crackpotmark> Regarding an upgrade of xubuntu from 16.04 to 18.04, I have couple questions. Is my kernal going to be downgraded from 4.4.0-134 to 4.15.0-33. Secondly is Wayland installed in the upgrade and available to try immediately? Finally does the gnome DE get installed even on Xubuntu
[20:52] <crackpotmark> oh ignore the kernal one
[20:52] <crackpotmark> I can't read the versions correctly tonight :/
[20:54] <jmgb4> Is this just one of those things where ubuntu wants to control everything -- as in I cant get python-libewf installed? https://nopaste.xyz/?77d1ca83e5ed7304#gLwyJOvIgEju1FoJeE3/Ypug28+fiS3+/VIPmW+gMUM=
[20:55] <EnglishInfix> Hey guys. I have an issue regarding AD in 18.04. I have been following this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/sssd-ad.html which worked well for authentication, but AD users that log in to the console do not seem to have any user settings that a new user would have (such as display username and current directory, and some commands such as "logout" are unavailable). I would assume this is a default "profile" issue
[20:55] <EnglishInfix> but I do not know enough about those to find some sane defaults.
[20:58] <EnglishInfix> I guess the actual question would be "how do I make users being authenticated through AD for the first time have the same profile settings as a local user"
[20:59] <Seveas> Sven_vB: ah, good catch on the cat. iiiiiinteresting.
[20:59] <Seveas> Sven_vB: 'man environ' does say that /proc/self/environ will not be updated by putenv, so this seems to be expected behaviour
[21:01] <Seveas> err, 'man proc' that is. Fail.
[21:02] <Seveas> I guess it kinda makes sense, as putenv can't modify the **env data
[21:02] <Sven_vB> Seveas, oh then you probably have a newer version. my man proc doesn't say so.
[21:02] <Sven_vB> at least I know the docs are fixed already. thanks. :)
[21:03] <ryuo> Seveas: putenv? that doesn't exist that i'm aware of.
[21:09] <codecutter> if www.example.com has no ssl enabled but example.com has, do i need to enable ssl for the first domain before redirecting to example.com?
[21:09] <codecutter> i intend to redirect all traffic from www.example.com to https://example.com
[21:11] <codecutter> anyone?
[21:12] <compdoc> not sure you have to, but its good to have all servers in the chain with certs
[21:12] <compdoc> you using lets encrypt?
[21:13] <compdoc> www.example.com is a different server than example.com?
[21:25] <Seveas> Sven_vB: this info was added in 17.10
[21:27] <Sven_vB> Seveas, thanks!
[21:27] <codecutter> anyone?
[21:28] <Sven_vB> codecutter, I can't see a reason why you'd need SSL for that redirect.
[21:28] <Sven_vB> codecutter, you can redirect from a plain HTTP site to HTTPS.
[21:29] <codecutter> me neither :)
[21:29] <Sven_vB> of course that redirect could be manipulated by local attackers, but you can't usually fix that.
[21:35] <dina16> hi
[21:36] <dina16> i have ubuntu 18.04.1 , i can't use keyboard to adjust brightness
[21:37] <ryuo> dina16: what laptop model?
[21:44] <EnglishInfix> How can I set a default bash.bashrc for AD users logging in via SSSD on 18.04? Right now users logging in are missing a lot of features, can't even tab complete or use the "logout" command.
[21:46] <nacc> EnglishInfix: are sure those users are running bash?
[21:46] <nacc> EnglishInfix: and not dash, e.g.
[21:46] <nacc> echo $SHELL to check
[21:47] <EnglishInfix> nacc: they are using /bin/sh, but should be using bash
[21:47] <nacc> EnglishInfix: did you change it?
[21:47] <nacc> EnglishInfix: on ubuntu by default sh is dash not bash
[21:47] <EnglishInfix> nacc: this is a fresh install and I have not done anything not outlined in https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/sssd-ad.html
[21:47] <nacc> EnglishInfix: oh sorry, misread what you wrote maybe
[21:48] <nacc> EnglishInfix: yes, so they are using dash if their shell is 'sh' or 'dash' by default on Ubuntu
[21:48] <nacc> EnglishInfix: you just need to change their login shell? https://serverfault.com/questions/790577/how-to-change-from-the-default-shell-authenticating-using-sssd-ad/901989
[21:48] <nacc> maybe
[21:49] <EnglishInfix> nacc: let's try that. thanks for now
[21:49] <nacc> EnglishInfix: yw
[21:49] <nacc> EnglishInfix: in any case, that's the place to fix it (sssd config)i think. You might also try #ubuntu-server for sssd help
[21:50] <EnglishInfix> ah, I had forgotten about that channel
[21:52] <Seveas> EnglishInfix: and if their .bashrc is not automatically created, then pam_mkhomedir is missing from your pamconfig or misconfigured†
[21:59] <dina16> @ryuo : model is : VPCEJ2L1E C1066CMM
[22:00] <Volund> I do df -h and get this
[22:00] <Volund> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/ppNtxQcsKx/
[22:00] <ryuo> dina16: i'd see if the keys are generating any input events first. launch acpi_listen in a terminal and see what happens when you press the keys for it.
[22:00] <Volund> can someone please explain what /run/user/<id> is and why it needs 400 megabytes
[22:01] <ryuo> Volund: it's not using that much. that's just how much space is available.
[22:01] <dina16> video/brightnessup BRTUP 00000086 00000000 K
[22:02] <dina16> sony/hotkey SNY5001:00 00000001 00000011
[22:02] <ryuo> dina16: ok. it appears to be activating.
[22:02] <Volund> but... what IS it?
[22:02] <Volund> I've used ls to explore it, and it seems related to systemd.
[22:02] <ryuo> Volund: my guess? it's where the systemd user instance stores files.
[22:02] <dina16> yes but nothing happen
[22:03] <Volund> ... ohhhhhh.
[22:03] <ryuo> dina16: did it work previously, say in a previous version of Ubuntu?
[22:04] <dina16> i don't know , i never use it
[22:04] <dina16> with ubuntu
[22:04] <ryuo> Ok..
[22:05] <ryuo> dina16: run this: ls /sys/class/backlight
[22:05] <ryuo> dina16: what files are in the folder?
[22:05] <dina16> nothing
[22:05] <EnglishInfix> nacc: setting override_shell to /bin/bash worked perfectly. thanks a bunch :)
[22:06] <ryuo> Ok... now we're getting somewhere...
[22:06] <ryuo> hm.
[22:06] <ryuo> your system may require some special kernel parameters for the backlight to work.
[22:07] <dina16> should install somthing
[22:07] <ryuo> dina16: don't think so, but you may need to try some stuff with grub to reach a solution.
[22:07] <ryuo> let me check what it was.
[22:07] <dina16> i have install this Xbacklight.
[22:07] <dina16> ok
[22:08] <ryuo> well.
[22:08] <ryuo> you can try running xbacklight to see if it helps.
[22:08] <ryuo> xbacklight -get
[22:08] <ryuo> etc
[22:09] <dina16> xbacklight -get
[22:09] <dina16> return nothing for me
[22:10] <ryuo> i figured. the backlight isn't even detected.
[22:10] <dina16> i miss somthing ?
[22:11] <ryuo> dina16: i doubt it, but some laptops require special parameters for their backlights to work.
[22:11] <ryuo> dina16: this may be one such case.
[22:11] <dina16> :/
[22:11] <ryuo> under my thinkpad x200, i get these: acpi_video0 intel_backlight
[22:11] <dina16> it's possible to solve it ?
[22:11] <ryuo> Maybe. But it's not a guarantee.
[22:12] <ryuo> At least the keyboard keys are working.
[22:12] <dina16> it's driver missing no ?
[22:12] <dina16> like for nvidia ?
[22:12] <ryuo> No...
[22:12] <ryuo> Well.
[22:12] <ryuo> What GPU do you even have?
[22:12] <ryuo> I assumed it was just Intel GPU.
[22:13] <dina16> GPU: NVIDIA GeForce 410M
[22:23] <Tramtrist> hey all.. where is the dev channel or the channel where we talk about adding packages
[22:27] <Tramtrist> bsaically im trying to figure out if dovecot-lucene which was depracated in 18.04 can be added back in.. it sitll exists in debian
[22:27] <Tramtrist> 16.04 LTS had it as well
[22:28] <ramsub07_> Hi, I am trying to install nvidia for docker and i get this following error while i try this command
[22:28] <ramsub07_> Command : curl -s -L https://nvidia.github.io/nvidia-docker/gpgkey | sudo apt-key add - distribution=$(. /etc/os-release;echo $ID$VERSION_ID)
[22:28] <ramsub07_> Error : gpg: can't open `distribution=ubuntu16.04': No such file or directory
[22:30] <Nokaji> Hi, I have a couple of partitions that load on boot-up and are used by proggies, e.g. a music player. Problem is they do not always mount and  get instead of say MUSIC mounting, ubuntu invents a MUSIC1 and mounts to that instead. I can fix it with a umount and mount command but I'd like somethi g permanet and to understand the issue, I've tried adding delays to the music player on boot
[22:30] <ramsub07_> I tried the few solutions given in the ubuntu forum, but unable to debug. could someone please help me?
[22:31] <Nokaji> ... neither partition is listed in fstab
[22:32] <guiverc> Nokaji, I'd list them in fstab if I was you, why do not have them there, and how did you 'automount' them?  what type partitions are they?
[22:33] <Nokaji> guiverc: okay, I can do that - they are EXT4, I mounted them via the DISKS app
[22:34] <Nokaji> wasn't sure tht was needed but I'll read up on fstab, thanks
[22:35] <guiverc> Nokaji, I've not used disks app (I don't use gnome generally) so don't know if it has rules, conditions or something in the way (or could be just setup wrong)  - fstab is mostly preference for me..  use your /home, or / as examples for new mounts
[22:36] <Nokaji> guiverc: It's essentially  tick box after selecting partition - a bit odd really it only does half the job
[22:36] <ryuo> dina16: ah... hm. i guess you can try installing nvidia driver.
[22:37] <ryuo> dina16: the usual workarounds primarily apply to intel GPUs.
[22:37] <dina16> yes nvidia driver it's installed
[22:37] <dami0> hey, i'm trying to join my ubuntu to an ad domain, samba 'net ads' commands show the right information but i can't find the AD groups and users in /etc/passwd
[22:38] <ryuo> dina16: did it fix backlight issues?
[22:38] <guiverc> Nokaji, i'm looking now (gnome-disks), it may just create/edit entries in fstab, so you may find entries there already
[22:39] <dina16> i don't know percent of my backlight
[22:39] <ryuo> dina16: uh... ok. is /sys/class/backlight still empty?
[22:40] <dina16> yes , i have driver nvidia when i have installed ubuntu
[22:41] <ryuo> dina16: out of ideas for now.
[22:41] <dina16> ok
[22:41] <dina16> no problem bro
[22:41] <ryuo> dina16: i'd try googling around. nouveau may work now with it, but the proprietary driver would need to be removed.
[22:42] <dina16> thnk's for help
[22:42] <ryuo> the GPU is old enough it seems.
[22:42] <Nokaji> guiverc: just opened fstab - it has only filesystem and swap partitions listed ... I have some sixteen partitions total over 5 devices, inc 2x SSD, 1 HDD
[22:42] <Nokaji> I may have inadvertently edited it though in an earlier attempt (but cant see how)
[22:42] <dina16> ok
[22:43] <dina16> install open driver
[22:43] <Boyette> hi
[22:43] <dina16> for nvidia from xorg
[22:43] <guiverc> Nokaji, i was guessing; I can't test as all my partitions are already in fstab..  I'd suggest creating a `cp` of it (.bak) just in case of error - so you can revert back if necessary
[22:44] <Boyette> i have a weird problem
[22:45] <guiverc> Nokaji, also use UUID's & not /dev/sdx9's (use `sudo blkid` to get UUID's)
[22:45] <Nokaji> guiverc: yeah - thanks for the guidance, I'll have a good read of something tomorrow on it
[22:45] <Boyette> i dont have a networkconfiguration on my vps.. but i have network
[22:45] <Boyette> but i need the configuration aswell
[22:45] <Nokaji> I've got a list of the UUID's via blkid .. I'm slowly learning :)
[22:46] <Boyette> is that a common problem
[22:46] <Nokaji> thanks again guiverc  - I'll hunt for an fstab manual probably
[22:47] <guiverc> Nokaji, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab   (a start anyway)
[22:47] <ryuo> Boyette: VPS are typically given a static configuration, though it may be delivered over DHCP.
[22:47] <ryuo> Boyette: you'll need to consult with your host.
[22:47] <Boyette> the internet connection works
[22:47] <Boyette> i can connect remotely
[22:47] <Nokaji> guiverc: also found the "ll -a /media/nokaji" switch handy
[22:47] <ryuo> so what's the issue?
[22:48] <Boyette> if i type ip a
[22:48] <Boyette> i can see ip address
[22:48] <Boyette> but when i try to configure a vps .. there is no network configuration to attach to
[22:48] <Boyette> its just empty
[22:48] <Boyette> vpn sorry
[22:48] <Boyette> vpn on the vps
[22:48] <Boyette> its like there is no network at all
[22:48] <pragmaticenigma> !enter | Boyette
[22:49] <Boyette> ok
[22:49] <ryuo> and it would help to know what version of Ubuntu, since Ubuntu has been switching around their networking setups...
[22:50] <Boyette> it was an ubuntu 16 template which I upgraded to ubuntu 18.04 with complications because the boot size was just 100mb so i had to do a lot of hocus pocus to make this work
[22:51] <ryuo> Ok... that may be why.
[22:51] <Boyette> when i click on connection information i get: Error displaying connection information
[22:51] <Boyette> No valid active connections found!
[22:51] <Boyette> but my internetconnection is working fine. enter
[22:51] <Nokaji> guiverc: neat, should get a lot of mileage from that
[22:52] <imbezol> anyone here familiar with apt-offline? i am able to do a set --update, then get --update, then install, but when in then do a set --upgrade the .sig file is empty. any ideas?
[22:53] <guiverc> :)
[22:55] <Boyette> sudo apt-get openvpn = already installed
[22:55] <Boyette> sudo openvpn --config (unrecognized option?)
[22:55] <Boyette> sudo openvpn -config (error opening configuration files)
[22:56] <Boyette> wtf
[22:56] <Boyette> this is supposed to be the easy part
[22:58] <hggdh> Boyette: language, please
[22:58] <caliculk> While this post is mainly geared towards server, samba is also accessible on ubuntu desktop. However, I was wondering if anyone was familiar with the zfsacl vfs module for Samba. I can't seem to find much info about it, other then it is SUPPOSED to be included in samba-vfs-modules package for 4.7.6 and there is documentation written for it as well, but it is not being included when downloading the package.
[23:00] <Boyette> (WTF = Where To Find (a solution)
[23:05] <dami0> hey, i'm trying to join ubuntu 18.04 to an ad domain, samba 'net ads' commands show the right information but i can't find the AD groups and users in /etc/passwd.  does anyone know what i could check to see what's wrong?
[23:05] <ryuo> dami0: i don't believe samba stores user info in the unix location.
[23:05] <ryuo> dami0: smbpasswd sure doesn't.
[23:06] <Boyette> maybe because its actually a virtual ethernet controller but that should not create an issue should it?
[23:08] <Volund> oh for crying out loud
[23:09] <Volund> I hit do-release-upgrade and it says 'An upgrade from zesty to bionic is not supported with this tool.'
[23:09] <Boyette> its not lts
[23:09] <Volund> ah...
[23:10] <Bashing-om> !zesty
[23:10] <Volund> yes that's why I'm trying to get off it
[23:11] <Boyette> $ sudo do-release-upgrade -d
[23:11] <Bashing-om> !eol
[23:11] <Boyette> what happens if you force it a bit
[23:11] <hggdh> Boyette: it does not matter how you read it. Still, please do not repeat here
[23:12] <Boyette> how you read what?
[23:12] <hggdh> ...
[23:12] <Boyette> i was helping someone else in the mean time
[23:12] <Boyette> while waiting
[23:12] <hggdh> Boyette: you have been warned
[23:12] <Boyette> warned ? for what?
[23:12] <Volund> I'm trying to upgrade my VPS basically.
[23:12] <hggdh> Boyette: language.
[23:12] <Boyette> what language?
[23:13] <hggdh> Boyette: really? Do you want to go that way?
[23:13] <Boyette> we are passed that now right?
[23:14] <dami0> ryuo: oh, ok. https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/sssd-ad.html.en following this and a few other places, got sssd, samba, kerberos and other things installed. i can get a kerberos ticket, i can join (or at least i think i can) the domain using samba's net stuff
[23:15] <dami0> ryuo: but i can't login using AD credentials. i also installed the winbind module for pam, that autoconfigured pam and i can see it being used in auth.log (but only when i try ssh)
[23:16] <Rubato> .
[23:17] <Volund> hmmmm.
[23:17] <Volund> looks like I can't use do-release-upgrade period... I should just rebuild the server. But I'm not sure how to package up and preserve users/passwords.
[23:19] <Boyette> .
[23:34] <Volund> god I hope this works
[23:34]  * Volund just replaced his /etc/apt/sources.list with all the 18.04.1 stuff, did update and now apt-get dist-upgrade
[23:34] <Volund> I can only pray this doesn't explode too badly, otherwise... well, at least I have a backup
[23:35] <Boyette> hmm
[23:36] <chrimbus> hi everyone. running ubuntu 18 and for some reason i can't connect to my home wifi. @work it's fine. other locations its fine... signal strength is "excellent"... anybody have any suggestions for a fix? googled til my fingers fell off. tried using wicd instead of netmanager.. no dice.
[23:37] <chrimbus> can connect to a different device nearby (neighbor) which is an xfinitywifi hotspot with the same signal strength. pc and mac connect to home network just fine. its wep2
[23:37] <Boyette> wep2?
[23:38] <chrimbus> wpa2 sorry
[23:38] <chrimbus> wpa2-personal
[23:38] <Boyette> aes ?
[23:39] <chrimbus> yes AES
[23:39] <Boyette> what if you disable to security to test
[23:39] <chrimbus> i can try that
[23:40] <pragmaticenigma> chrimbus: Does the access point in your home have all updates applied?
[23:42] <chrimbus_> Boyette: pc connects to open network, ubuntu i got a "activation of network authorization failed"
[23:43] <chrimbus_> *of network connection failed
[23:43] <pragmaticenigma> chrimbus_: did you see my question?
[23:44] <chrimbus_> no
[23:44] <chrimbus_> (lost connection whilst changing wifi to open)
[23:44] <pragmaticenigma> chrimbus_: Does the access point in your home have all updates applied?
[23:44] <chrimbus_> i think so but i can go ahead and run them again now
[23:45] <chrimbus_> unable to get latest version info
[23:45] <chrimbus_> damn
[23:45] <pragmaticenigma> what do you mean? what model router/modem/access point is it?
[23:46] <Boyette> so its a security issue or receive is bad
[23:46] <Boyette> did you already delete the configuration?
[23:48] <pragmaticenigma> chrimbus_: what is the access point make and model? also, is the machine dual booting windows, and if so, is windows able to connect?
[23:54] <jim12>     /)))))))))
[23:55] <pragmaticenigma> chrimbus: what is the access point make and model? also, is the machine dual booting windows, and if so, is windows able to connect?
[23:55] <chrimbus> welp. setup an old airport i had lying around and i'm able to connect to that just fine
[23:56] <chrimbus> thanks pragmaticenigma and the other person helping me out
[23:56] <chrimbus> u guys rule
[23:56] <chrimbus> for now i'll just use the airport as its working with ease
[23:57] <pragmaticenigma> chrimbus: what I suspect the issue is the AP and the wireless card aren't compatible
[23:57] <chrimbus> ahh
[23:57] <chrimbus> good call
[23:57] <chrimbus> Boyette: thank you too
[23:57] <Boyette> for?
[23:57] <Boyette> is it fixed now?
[23:57] <pragmaticenigma> chrimbus: it's an unfortunate state of wireless tech, where there are no hard rules. When you said that you could connect to other things, but not your own AP, with/without passwords, I suspect it's an incompatibility
[23:58] <Boyette> if that never worked
[23:58] <pragmaticenigma> chrimbus: about the only other thought would be is if that AP had MAC filtering or some other security protocol enabled to prevent rogue hardware from connecting.
[23:59] <Boyette> do you know when you ever manage to connect your vps with a vpn.. that you can never login anymore :P
[23:59] <Boyette> at least it worked
[23:59] <Boyette> but that is another problem im secured out