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lubot5<Mangesh Ghatol> I need of full Marathi Language supported Keyboard into Lubuntu either built in or downloadable from repo, just like Google Keyboard on Android.13:55
lubot5<Hans Möller> (Photo, 740x601) https://i.imgur.com/SFzQrHZ.jpg14:49
lubot5<Hans Möller> Hi everyone! I asked in of the oficial spanish lubuntu telegram group about the password hardness. The abstract would be this picture14:49
lubot5<Hans Möller> if you can't see it https://www.xkcd.com/936/14:49
lubot5<Hans Möller> as a corolary, if people come up with difficult passwords, they tend to write them down to not forget them.14:50
lubot5<Hans Möller> (and some write it down on post-it glued to te computer)14:52
wxlwth how was i not here?15:19
lubot5<tsimonq2> @wxl, Did you see the logs from Hans?15:22
wxl@tsimonq2: no i didn't see crap cuz it seems when services went down i had a late identification15:24
lubot5<tsimonq2> @wxl, Sent to you.15:25
wxltl;dr xkcd?15:26
lubot5<tsimonq2> Kinda.15:26
wxlthere's also plenty of holes in that argument15:27
wxlbut c'est la vie, ie's goig to have to go15:28
lubot5<tsimonq2> @wxl, I think the general consensus I've seen is have a recommended but not mandatory password strength.15:29
wxlright15:29
wxland that's what happens if we turn it all off15:29
lubot5<tsimonq2> Maybe ask upstream about having "recommended" values (in Cala) and have a warning dialog if it doesn't meet the requirements talking about the importance of decent passwords.15:30
wxlhttps://github.com/calamares/calamares/blob/743c19d8dd58bc7e7ee26b3fca769318d254d172/src/modules/users/page_usersetup.ui#L44015:30
lubot5<tsimonq2> But that's a QLabel.15:31
lubot5<tsimonq2> It only shows up if passwords don't match, if I recall correctly.15:31
wxlno15:31
wxlit shows up no matter what15:31
lubot5<tsimonq2> @wxl, Oh really?15:32
wxlyep15:32
wxlif you set min/maxLength to -1 and comment all libpwquality lines, there's no checking at all. still shows up.15:33
wxleven commenting out the whole passwordRequirements section15:33
wxlonly thing you can't seem to use is a blank password15:34
lubot5<Hans Möller> yes, recomended but nor mandatory passw3d strength, and perhaps some recommendations of how do good passwords.15:41
wxl@Hans see that link above and see if you have suggestions for rewording it, if at all15:42
lubot5<tsimonq2> Hans Möller Did you ever get your translations issue solved as well with Calamares?15:44
lubot5<Hans Möller> @tsimonq2, no, I search if they have some translate page and couldn't fond it, maybe I didn't search enough.15:45
wxlyou didn't @Hans :) https://www.transifex.com/calamares/calamares/15:46
lubot5<Hans Möller> @wxl, it's ok.15:49
lubot5<Hans Möller> @wxl, thanks!!15:49
wxlnp15:49
WizBrighthow's everyone's friday? :D16:14
lubot5<tsimonq2> Good, how's yours? :D16:14
WizBrightNot too bad. It's been a busy first week of classes :)16:16
lubot5<Hans Möller> good. I've made the translations change suggestions in calamares and I've translating some unstranslated strngs they have.16:21
lubot5<Hans Möller> what should this mean?16:26
lubot5Cre&ate16:26
lubot5???16:26
lubot5Thinking in how to translate it.16:26
wxllooks like it is the word create with an erroneous ampersand in it16:26
lubot5<Hans Möller> good, done, there are only 3 strings pending in spanish, one that's KDE-plasma and better to leave to someone who uses Kde-plasma so it is consistent.16:32
lubot5<tsimonq2> @wxl, Uhm, you don't know what that means? :)16:51
wxlhhm?16:51
lubot5<tsimonq2> In Qt, for example that string can be activated by doing Alt + a16:51
lubot5<tsimonq2> So it's not erraneous. :)16:52
lubot5<Wolfenprey> @Hans Möller, maybe can be translated to "Cre&ar"16:53
wxlwait, what?16:53
lubot5<Hans Möller> ???16:55
lubot5<tsimonq2> @wxl, Yup.16:56
wxly17:03
wxlsorry, yup does it really clarify what it does17:04
lubot5<tsimonq2> Np :D17:04
wxlum, sarcasm17:05
lubot5<Hans Möller> We need a lesson from Sheldon.17:06
lubot5<Wolfenprey> xD17:06
wxlor maybe sheldon needs a lesson17:07
wxlour own little sheldon17:07
lubot5<Wolfenprey> @wxl, Be careful! It's leveling up quickly!17:08
wxlhttps://share.riseup.net/#lxoagm3ApRI9D8gf75SLNQ17:13
tsimonq2wxl: Bug 1788904.17:22
ubot93Bug 1788904 in lubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) "Blanket Feature Freeze Exception: Lubuntu's LXQt Transition" [Critical, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178890417:22
wxlsaw it17:22
tsimonq2wxl: It's something the Ubuntu Desktop Team has had clearance to do for cycles now but has never been formalized.17:22
tsimonq2Answering the question of "can we upload new features to packages which are in the Lubuntu seed only"?17:23
wxlsure sure17:23
tsimonq2wxl: Thoughts on having the option (opt-in) to enable Compiz?17:25
tsimonq2I have it locally configured and it's sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo good.17:25
wxlpeople can add it if they want17:25
tsimonq2Sure, I guess.17:25
wxli mean i like awesome but i don't think we should build that opt-in into the installer17:26
tsimonq2Understood.17:26
lubot5<Hans Möller> @tsimonq2, compiz over compton?17:48
tsimonq2OH.17:48
tsimonq2wxl: Did I say Compiz? I mean Compton.17:48
wxloh yeah a compositor would be nice17:49
lubot5<Hans Möller> I use xcompmgr now, less resource-hungre than compton, but apparently xcompmgr is dead.17:50
wxlthat17:50
tsimonq2Well so is Compton. XD17:50
tsimonq2Hey WizBright, did you ever look at compositing?17:51
tsimonq2WizBright: If you wanted to keep it as close to the original Openbox as possible that's fine, but otherwise maybe built-in, opt-in compositing could be an option.17:52
WizBrightwe can work together with something18:03
WizBrightI just haven't had any time to devote much to other bits of waybox :/18:04
tsimonq2WizBright: Sure, no problem.18:05
lubot5<Hans Möller> @Hans Möller, 3,5 vs 5,5 RES.18:17
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T53: Must haves for 18.10 release] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T53#119220:49
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T53: Must haves for 18.10 release] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T53#119420:51
tsimonq2Cool, so now USWGI and Lugito is just done with Cron.21:56
tsimonq2The last thing to do before I'd consider this "automated" is figure out mysql's global conf...21:56

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