[13:55] <lubot5> <Mangesh Ghatol> I need of full Marathi Language supported Keyboard into Lubuntu either built in or downloadable from repo, just like Google Keyboard on Android.
[14:49] <lubot5> <Hans Möller> (Photo, 740x601) https://i.imgur.com/SFzQrHZ.jpg
[14:49] <lubot5> <Hans Möller> Hi everyone! I asked in of the oficial spanish lubuntu telegram group about the password hardness. The abstract would be this picture
[14:49] <lubot5> <Hans Möller> if you can't see it https://www.xkcd.com/936/
[14:50] <lubot5> <Hans Möller> as a corolary, if people come up with difficult passwords, they tend to write them down to not forget them.
[14:52] <lubot5> <Hans Möller> (and some write it down on post-it glued to te computer)
[15:19] <wxl> wth how was i not here?
 @wxl, Did you see the logs from Hans?
[15:24] <wxl> @tsimonq2: no i didn't see crap cuz it seems when services went down i had a late identification
 @wxl, Sent to you.
[15:26] <wxl> tl;dr xkcd?
 Kinda.
[15:27] <wxl> there's also plenty of holes in that argument
[15:28] <wxl> but c'est la vie, ie's goig to have to go
 @wxl, I think the general consensus I've seen is have a recommended but not mandatory password strength.
[15:29] <wxl> right
[15:29] <wxl> and that's what happens if we turn it all off
 Maybe ask upstream about having "recommended" values (in Cala) and have a warning dialog if it doesn't meet the requirements talking about the importance of decent passwords.
[15:30] <wxl> https://github.com/calamares/calamares/blob/743c19d8dd58bc7e7ee26b3fca769318d254d172/src/modules/users/page_usersetup.ui#L440
 But that's a QLabel.
 It only shows up if passwords don't match, if I recall correctly.
[15:31] <wxl> no
[15:31] <wxl> it shows up no matter what
 @wxl, Oh really?
[15:32] <wxl> yep
[15:33] <wxl> if you set min/maxLength to -1 and comment all libpwquality lines, there's no checking at all. still shows up.
[15:33] <wxl> even commenting out the whole passwordRequirements section
[15:34] <wxl> only thing you can't seem to use is a blank password
[15:41] <lubot5> <Hans Möller> yes, recomended but nor mandatory passw3d strength, and perhaps some recommendations of how do good passwords.
[15:42] <wxl> @Hans see that link above and see if you have suggestions for rewording it, if at all
 Hans Möller Did you ever get your translations issue solved as well with Calamares?
[15:45] <lubot5> <Hans Möller> @tsimonq2, no, I search if they have some translate page and couldn't fond it, maybe I didn't search enough.
[15:46] <wxl> you didn't @Hans :) https://www.transifex.com/calamares/calamares/
[15:49] <lubot5> <Hans Möller> @wxl, it's ok.
[15:49] <lubot5> <Hans Möller> @wxl, thanks!!
[15:49] <wxl> np
[16:14] <WizBright> how's everyone's friday? :D
 Good, how's yours? :D
[16:16] <WizBright> Not too bad. It's been a busy first week of classes :)
[16:21] <lubot5> <Hans Möller> good. I've made the translations change suggestions in calamares and I've translating some unstranslated strngs they have.
[16:26] <lubot5> <Hans Möller> what should this mean?
[16:26] <lubot5> Cre&ate
[16:26] <lubot5> ???
[16:26] <lubot5> Thinking in how to translate it.
[16:26] <wxl> looks like it is the word create with an erroneous ampersand in it
[16:32] <lubot5> <Hans Möller> good, done, there are only 3 strings pending in spanish, one that's KDE-plasma and better to leave to someone who uses Kde-plasma so it is consistent.
 @wxl, Uhm, you don't know what that means? :)
[16:51] <wxl> hhm?
 In Qt, for example that string can be activated by doing Alt + a
 So it's not erraneous. :)
 @Hans Möller, maybe can be translated to "Cre&ar"
[16:53] <wxl> wait, what?
[16:55] <lubot5> <Hans Möller> ???
 @wxl, Yup.
[17:03] <wxl> y
[17:04] <wxl> sorry, yup does it really clarify what it does
 Np :D
[17:05] <wxl> um, sarcasm
[17:06] <lubot5> <Hans Möller> We need a lesson from Sheldon.
 xD
[17:07] <wxl> or maybe sheldon needs a lesson
[17:07] <wxl> our own little sheldon
 @wxl, Be careful! It's leveling up quickly!
[17:13] <wxl> https://share.riseup.net/#lxoagm3ApRI9D8gf75SLNQ
[17:22] <tsimonq2> wxl: Bug 1788904.
[17:22] <wxl> saw it
[17:22] <tsimonq2> wxl: It's something the Ubuntu Desktop Team has had clearance to do for cycles now but has never been formalized.
[17:23] <tsimonq2> Answering the question of "can we upload new features to packages which are in the Lubuntu seed only"?
[17:23] <wxl> sure sure
[17:25] <tsimonq2> wxl: Thoughts on having the option (opt-in) to enable Compiz?
[17:25] <tsimonq2> I have it locally configured and it's sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo good.
[17:25] <wxl> people can add it if they want
[17:25] <tsimonq2> Sure, I guess.
[17:26] <wxl> i mean i like awesome but i don't think we should build that opt-in into the installer
[17:26] <tsimonq2> Understood.
[17:48] <lubot5> <Hans Möller> @tsimonq2, compiz over compton?
[17:48] <tsimonq2> OH.
[17:48] <tsimonq2> wxl: Did I say Compiz? I mean Compton.
[17:49] <wxl> oh yeah a compositor would be nice
[17:50] <lubot5> <Hans Möller> I use xcompmgr now, less resource-hungre than compton, but apparently xcompmgr is dead.
[17:50] <wxl> that
[17:50] <tsimonq2> Well so is Compton. XD
[17:51] <tsimonq2> Hey WizBright, did you ever look at compositing?
[17:52] <tsimonq2> WizBright: If you wanted to keep it as close to the original Openbox as possible that's fine, but otherwise maybe built-in, opt-in compositing could be an option.
[18:03] <WizBright> we can work together with something
[18:04] <WizBright> I just haven't had any time to devote much to other bits of waybox :/
[18:05] <tsimonq2> WizBright: Sure, no problem.
[18:17] <lubot5> <Hans Möller> @Hans Möller, 3,5 vs 5,5 RES.
[20:49] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T53: Must haves for 18.10 release] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T53#1192
[20:51] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T53: Must haves for 18.10 release] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T53#1194
[21:56] <tsimonq2> Cool, so now USWGI and Lugito is just done with Cron.
[21:56] <tsimonq2> The last thing to do before I'd consider this "automated" is figure out mysql's global conf...