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slangasekxnox: s390x is being very unhelpful wrt gnucash00:20
slangasekxnox: n/m, it's just guile being segfaulty00:36
ahasenackdo you guys need any help with some migration or dep8 test?01:42
ahasenackman, so many tests in progress01:44
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-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected ubiquity [source] (bionic-proposed) [18.04.14.8]04:54
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted console-setup [source] (bionic-proposed) [1.178ubuntu2.7]07:43
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cjwatsonSo, uh, shouldn't we be in Debian import freeze now, per the release schedule?10:27
cjwatsonOr has that changed?10:27
acheronuktsimonq2 did mention in passing he might ask for FF to be pushed back a week, but I have no clue if anything came of that10:29
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ahasenackper #topic, we are not in FF yet10:54
cjwatsonYeah, I know that, but the release schedule on the wiki says otherwise so something has to give :)11:03
cjwatson(also, FF isn't necessarily the same as DIF ...)11:04
ahasenackI think there are not enough builders to cope with the huge queue, it will be a while11:11
ahasenackjust guessing11:11
cjwatsonThat normally isn't a factor, since it's OK for things to land provided they were at least uploaded before the deadline11:22
ahasenackI'm counting on that actually11:22
cjwatson(You possibly mean autopkgtest runners.  The Launchpad build farm is mostly idle right now.)11:22
ahasenacktrue11:23
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New sync: devscripts-el (cosmic-proposed/primary) [40.1]13:10
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New sync: dpkg-dev-el (cosmic-proposed/primary) [37.4]13:11
xnoxslangasek, who cares about guile, when emacs is busted =) please accept above two NEW packages, which got split out of emacs-goodies-el (which i forced synced now)13:12
xnoxonce above is in, i will readd ubuntu suite names to the dpkg-dev-el one13:13
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New source: spirv-tools (cosmic-proposed/primary) [2018.2-0ubuntu1]13:44
tewarddid something happen to FeatureFreeze?15:17
teward(proxy-requesting because dpb1 posted it in #ubuntu-server)15:17
ddstreetslangasek can you approve nodejs upload to bionic please15:31
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted devscripts-el [sync] (cosmic-proposed) [40.1]16:42
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted dpkg-dev-el [sync] (cosmic-proposed) [37.4]16:42
slangasekcjwatson: yeah, we should be in DIF now, switch flipped16:44
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: devscripts-el [amd64] (cosmic-proposed/universe) [40.1] (no packageset)16:44
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: dpkg-dev-el [amd64] (cosmic-proposed/universe) [37.4] (no packageset)16:45
cjwatsonthanks16:49
=== slangasek changed the topic of #ubuntu-release to: Released: Xenial 16.04.5, Bionic 18.04.1 | Archive: Feature Freeze | Cosmic Release Coordination | Please don't upload things during freezes where you shouldn't, or be prepared to apologise to the release team | We accept payment in cash, check or beer | melius malum quod cognoscis
slangasekxnox: your new emacs-goodies-el has a pile of component-mismatches too16:52
xnoxslangasek, which i solved by dropping emacs-goodies-el from the seed.16:53
slangasekok16:53
xnoxslangasek, it's the other ones from new that we will want to keep in main, i.e. the debian/control|changelog modes which are now split out16:53
jbichaslangasek: could you promote guile-2.2 to main and once aisleriot migrates, we can demote guile-2.0?16:55
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted devscripts-el [amd64] (cosmic-proposed) [40.1]16:57
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted dpkg-dev-el [amd64] (cosmic-proposed) [37.4]16:57
xnoxdoko, apw - sigh17:04
xnox/usr/include/x86_64-linux-gnu/bits/statx.h:25:8: error: redefinition of ‘struct statx_timestamp’17:04
xnox/usr/include/linux/stat.h:56:8: note: originally defined here17:05
xnoxah, infinity ^17:13
xnoxi think there is misscompat somehow between headers or something17:14
tsimonq2infinity, slangasek: Ping, I'd like an opinion on bug 1788904 when someone has the chance.17:20
ubot5bug 1788904 in lubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) "Blanket Feature Freeze Exception: Lubuntu's LXQt Transition" [Critical,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178890417:20
tsimonq2Basically, I'm asking a policy to be formalized which has seemingly already been in effect for the Ubuntu Desktop Team among others.17:21
infinityxnox: I can haz larger example?17:26
xnoxinfinity, sbuild of systemd fails now =)17:26
infinityxnox: Oh, that's no big loss.17:26
* infinity ducks.17:26
xnoxinfinity, so $ sbuild -A -d cosmic systemd_239-7ubuntu417:26
xnoxinfinity, well you asked for a larger example, afterall =)17:27
infinityxnox: Hahaha.  A slightly smaller one? :P17:27
infinityxnox: But yeah, looks like statx is new to glibc (and the kernel, probably), and needs all the usual guards.17:28
infinityHate this dance.17:28
infinityxnox: Of course, you might also be able to fix it by not including linux/stat.h17:28
xnoxinfinity, #include <linux/stat.h> #include <sys/stat.h> -> is that broken to include both now?17:36
xnoxand #include <sys/xattr.h>17:36
infinityxnox: It's almost always wrong for userspace to include anything in linux/17:36
infinityNot always always, but almost always.17:37
xnoxthere is a mega comment saying that we want to use statx() cause it's exposed from v4.11+ and that it might not be there and fallback to something else.17:37
xnoxi guess if statx is available now in userspace there is no need for linux/stat.h anymore.....17:37
xnoxinfinity, i'm just curious if this is a bug in systemd, or headers, or both.17:38
infinityIt's certainly possible for glibc and the kernel to guard against this.17:38
xnoxinfinity, i mean i will fix systemd obviously, but not sure if the headers can be "better" (stupid-compatible?!) somehow.17:38
infinityOn the other hand, Florian was the committer, and he's usually smarter than that.17:39
infinitySo unless there appears to be a valid reason to want both, the conflict might be intentional.17:39
xnox4/* Missing glibc definitions to access certain kernel APIs */17:39
xnoxis the heading used for these includes in systemd tree17:39
infinityAnd I don't see any reason to want the kernel version, at a glance.17:39
xnoxso possibly obsolete now.17:39
infinityUnfortunate that an upstream fix will have to have a conditional include.17:40
infinityBut not world-ending either.17:40
infinityinclude sys/stat, ifndef foo, include linux/statx17:41
infinityxnox: I'm assuming Fedora already ran into this, since they probably shipped glibc 2 weeks ago.17:41
infinityxnox: Unless they've not rebuilt systemd since.17:42
infinityNow, if I could remember how to find fedora sources..17:42
xnoxi'll propose conditional upstream i think.17:43
xnox(systemd)17:43
infinityYeah, I'm going to look at what Fedora's done here for kicks.17:44
infinityAhh, and that's that answer.  systemd in Fedora hasn't been built since mid-July.17:46
infinityOh, wait.17:47
infinityxnox: https://src.fedoraproject.org/cgit/rpms/systemd.git/commit/?h=f29&id=5306894742943e5d46ac705a3f2d5db1a48a0a6717:48
infinityxnox: Looks like a Googler has already proposed a patch (and F29 is carrying it).17:49
infinityxnox: So, cheers.17:49
xnoxinfinity, lovely, cause propose to fedora and not to upstream?17:50
* xnox checks master again17:50
infinityGah, GitHub is all wonky.17:51
infinityWHY.17:51
infinityxnox: https://github.com/systemd/systemd/commit/75720bff62a84896e9a0654afc7cf9408cf89a3817:52
infinityxnox: Looks upstreamish to me.17:52
tewardinfinity: because GH is owned by Microsoft now?  *shot*  (no but seriously...)17:52
infinityteward: I suspect it doesn't particularly relate (except maybe Github higher-ups trying to look "busy" and "useful" to not get "fired" and made "homeless" by their new overlords)17:53
infinityEither way, this dashboard landing page madness is... Busy.17:53
infinityAnd useless.17:53
xnoxinfinity, it got replaced by https://github.com/systemd/systemd/commit/9c869d08d82c73f62ab3527567858ce4b0cf1257#diff-969b60ad3d206fd45c208e266ccfed3817:53
tewardinfinity: indeed.  (It's why I've been shifting to other providers, or running my own GitLab instead for my projects, but I digress)17:54
teward(I was going to ask "what happened to feature freeze" but I just saw the emails about it, so don't mind me :P )17:54
infinityxnox: Fancy.  Definitely a step in the not-silly direction.  Maybe.17:54
xnoxwe have thousands of things in autopkgtest queue backlog still....17:54
xnoxhence to me FF is a bit meaningless17:54
infinityFF isn't about migration, it's about uploads.17:55
teward^ that17:55
infinityCertainly not meaningless to say "okay, stop uploading MORE feature changes".17:55
tewardindeed.  which reminds me, roaksoax has a proposed change to Cosmic that'd alter the package structure, that'd need an FFe review right?17:56
tewardto Cosmic nginx*17:56
teward(at this point it's not yet 'tested' or 'accepted' as working so it didn't get included in the latest uploads I did for it)17:56
infinityxnox: Anyhow, based on those two commits, I'd say the systemd community is accepting that it's their bug, and not a bug in the headers.  And Lennart would argue six ways to Tuesday if he even 5% thought it was our bug, so I'm going to call that definitive. :P17:56
xnoxinfinity, he may have been on holiday since july and has not seen this commit yet17:58
infinityxnox: He committed the first one.18:00
infinity filbranden authored and poettering committed on Jul 1518:01
infinityOh look, and my build failed on two arches, despite testing it earlier.18:09
* infinity looks.18:09
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rax-nova-agent (bionic-proposed/main) [2.1.15-0ubuntu1~18.04.0 => 2.1.15-0ubuntu1~18.04.1] (no packageset)18:21
tsimonq2doko: My updated assessment on the KDE autopkgtest situation is that there's enough library interdependencies that a build needs to be done for autopkgtest accuracy.18:47
tsimonq2doko: Alternatively we're exploring just really tightening the autopkgtest deps on the packages, but Santa was working on that and he's been in and out (likely on vac) lately.18:48
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: linux-signed [ppc64el] (cosmic-proposed/main) [4.17.0-9.10] (core, kernel)19:47
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: linux-signed [amd64] (cosmic-proposed/main) [4.17.0-9.10] (core, kernel)19:48
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: murano-agent [amd64] (cosmic-proposed/universe) [1:3.5.1-0ubuntu2] (no packageset)20:12
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted linux-signed [amd64] (cosmic-proposed) [4.17.0-9.10]20:31
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted linux-signed [ppc64el] (cosmic-proposed) [4.17.0-9.10]20:31
slangasekjbicha: guile-2.2 promoted20:53
slangasekjbicha: did you see my question about whether you've received britney nagmails about zc.lockfile?20:53
slangasekanyone care yet about node + rollup?  or should I just remove the lot from -proposed?21:01
LocutusOfBorgslangasek, I care about node+rollup21:06
LocutusOfBorgat least after all the work I did21:07
LocutusOfBorglet me try to find a way21:07
LocutusOfBorgslangasek, is it possible to remove automake-1.15 from archive? useless now21:51
LocutusOfBorgNBS21:51
slangasekLocutusOfBorg: 'NBS' - it doesn't show up on http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/nbs.html , what do you mean?21:52
LocutusOfBorgthe "automake" binary is now part of src:automake-1.16, migrated in cosmic hours ago21:53
LocutusOfBorgso, the src:automake-1.15 is producing nothing, I don't know what is the best wording :)21:53
slangasekLocutusOfBorg: sounds like a source package whose removal we would pick up via Debian21:56
LocutusOfBorg[2018-08-10] automake-1.15 REMOVED from testing (Britney)21:56
LocutusOfBorgoh indeed, still part of unstable, meh21:56
LocutusOfBorgok https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=90692821:57
ubot5Debian bug 906928 in ftp.debian.org "RM: automake-1.15 -- RoQA; binary package now built by automake-1.16" [Normal,Open]21:57
slangasekyah, not worth putting extra effort into those kinds of removals, they'll eventually get reaped21:57
slangasekI run process-removals several times between FF and release21:57
LocutusOfBorgnice22:02
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New sync: debian-el (cosmic-proposed/primary) [37.6]22:31
xnoxslangasek, one more NEW package needed for the emacs-goodies-el split.... sorry that i missed that one. ^22:31
slangasekxnox: done22:34
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted debian-el [sync] (cosmic-proposed) [37.6]22:34
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: debian-el [amd64] (cosmic-proposed/none) [37.6] (no packageset)22:38
slangasekjbicha: and guile-2.0 demoted23:38
slangasekLocutusOfBorg, acheronuk: I see you both retried the kdeconnect/s390x autopkgtest failure; it looks entirely reproducible and looks to me like there's a good chance it's a big-endian bug.  How should we proceed with this?23:52
jbichaslangasek: I didn't see your question the first time but I'll take a look at zc.lockfile23:53
slangasekjbicha: ok, thanks for looking - and did you previously receive emails?23:54
slangasekbecause I'm trying to figure out if we have a bug generally in not notifying people of stuck force-syncs23:54
jbichaI get lots of email from the Release Team :)23:56

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