[01:28] <AvilanceStudios> Hey guys, nice to meet you all :)
[01:31] <wxl> AvilanceStudios came from #ubuntu-bugs and says they "come across like 3 bugs a day"
[01:33] <wxl> so have you been filing bugs AvilanceStudios ?
[01:37] <AvilanceStudios> I just started today wxl
[01:37] <wxl> AvilanceStudios: well, read all the info on how to write a good bug report. it's a lot but it matters!
[01:37] <AvilanceStudios> Can you please link me? I'm great with documentation
[01:38] <AvilanceStudios> Also, I need to figure out how to create bug reports etc...
[01:38] <wxl> `ubuntu-bug some-package`
[01:39] <wxl> longer documentation https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs
[01:39] <wxl> important reading https://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/bugs.html
[01:41] <wxl> my 2¢: always make sure to include the versions you're using and include steps on how to repeat the bug
[01:42] <AvilanceStudios> This is awesome!
[01:42] <AvilanceStudios> SO my job is basically to find and report bugs correct?
[01:42] <AvilanceStudios> I just follow the guidlines it looks like and I should be good
[01:42] <wxl> yep. then the next step is to figure out how to fix them :)
[01:43] <wxl> or if that's too much, go through old bugs and try to confirm them or not
[01:43] <AvilanceStudios> Eventually, I want to join that team. For now, I am still learning python and linux in general so I have to start somewhere haha
[01:43] <wxl> you'd find it hard to believe how easy it is to fix some bugs
[01:43] <AvilanceStudios> So then what is the LaunchPad team for? How do I use it?
[01:43] <wxl> the bugsquad is for bugs in general
[01:44] <AvilanceStudios> So bugs I report will show up in there or?
[01:44] <wxl> not necessarily, no
[01:45] <AvilanceStudios> So then where do the bugs in LaunchPad come from?
[01:45] <wxl> from people filing them
[01:47] <AvilanceStudios> So then would I file bugs in LaunchPad? Lol sorry for so many questions I'm new to this.
[01:48] <wxl> if you join the team, it implies that you are interested in helping with bugs
[01:48] <AvilanceStudios> Ohhh haha ok well that makes sense
[01:48] <wxl> by running `ubuntu-bug some-package` (where some-package is the name of some package), it will ultimately lead you to launchpad to file a bug, but it will pull in a bunch of information for you
[01:49] <AvilanceStudios> Now why won't a bug I filed necessarily show up in LaunchPad?
[01:50] <wxl> it will, but not necessarily within the team
[01:50] <AvilanceStudios> Oh right, because it might be for example evince and that is a different team I suppose
[01:51] <wxl> well, you'd have to file a bug against the team :)
[01:51] <wxl> https://bugs.launchpad.net/~bugsquad
[01:52] <AvilanceStudios> "There are currently no open bugs." not sure if this is a good or bad thing lol
[01:52] <wxl> well a bug against evince is not a bug against the bugsquad team
[01:52] <wxl> just like a bug against envince is not a bug against firefox
[01:52] <AvilanceStudios> Which is why you were saying we may not necessarily see it
[01:52] <wxl> not THERE
[01:53] <AvilanceStudios> Right, I get it now
[01:53] <AvilanceStudios> That's all I really wanted to know, I have to brush up on this documentation you provided me for actually sorting/creating bug reports
[01:54] <wxl> so go read, figure out a bug to file, file it, and come back for review
[01:54] <AvilanceStudios> Perfect, and you will tell me how I did haha
[01:54] <AvilanceStudios> I'll start with a bug bothering me in Korganizer
[01:55] <wxl> yup
[01:55] <wxl> #ubuntu-bugs can help out with that, too, but since we're the kubuntu folks this might be a better place to start for kubuntu stuff
[01:55] <AvilanceStudios> ;) Thank you for all your help, so I guess I'll leave Konversation open in the background from now on. And yep, I agree
[01:56] <AvilanceStudios> And in your opinion, if I were to be learning programing languages for Linux, and besides Python, is there something else I should be drawing a focus on?
[01:57] <wxl> well, the kernel is mostly C
[01:57] <wxl> most K stuff is C++
[01:58] <AvilanceStudios> Hmm, then I will look into C++/C. I am a college student and I have 3 ThinkPad devices I use with Kubuntu, two of which are tablets.
[01:58] <AvilanceStudios> So I actually take notes/study off of these computers for electrical engineering and I am really wanting to also contribute to the OS itself haha
[02:00] <valorie> nice to meet you, AvilanceStudios
[02:01] <AvilanceStudios> Nice to meet you too!
[02:01]  * valorie has filed quite a few of those LP bugs
[02:01] <valorie> as we test the ISOs in the coming weeks, we'll be filing more
[02:02] <AvilanceStudios> It's so cool to meet you guys haha, I litteraly depend on Kubuntu 
[02:07] <valorie> me too, AvilanceStudios
[02:07] <wxl> ditto
[02:08] <valorie> wxl: not lubuntu?
[02:08] <wxl> i depend on both, depending on where i'm at
[02:08] <valorie> oh cool
[02:08] <AvilanceStudios> I just like Kubuntu because it uses KDE!
[02:08] <wxl> there's a reason i've got a finger in both pots :)
[02:09] <AvilanceStudios> Isn't Lubuntu xfce?
[02:09] <wxl> nope, lxde and soon lxqt
[02:09] <AvilanceStudios> ah welp, I got some letters right lol
[02:13] <valorie> it's Xubuntu that uses xfce
[02:14] <AvilanceStudios> Ah, that's right
[02:15] <AvilanceStudios> Is there an apparel store for KDE? Like shirts etc
[02:31] <valorie> there are, lemme find one
[02:32] <valorie> https://www.kde.org/stuff/metastore.php
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[11:16] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
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 wow, fw 5.49 landed in cosmic.  Nice job! I was concerned the feature freeze dead would get in the way.
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 @DarinMiller, It was uploaded before the freeze, which makes it ok :)
 Has anyone else tried putting cosmic to sleep and experienced a partially functional mouse on resume?  I am not sure if its a libinput issue or something to do with kwallet.  It only  happens occasionally and after entering my kwallet password, the mouse pointer moves but DE does not respond to mouse clicks.
 If i drop to a terminal (ctr-alt-f2), login and switch back to GUI (ctrl-alt-f1), the mouse functions correctly.
[17:21] <acheronuk> mamarley: ^^ ?
[17:22] <mamarley> Huh?  What'd I do?
[17:22] <mamarley> Oh, test the sleep thing?  I haven't put any of my computers to sleep in a while, but I will test that when I get a chance.
[17:22] <mamarley> Right now I am in the middle of something else.
[17:23] <acheronuk> mamarley: yeah, as you seem to run multiple cosmic machines. no probs
[17:23] <mamarley> Yep, I have at least 7 of them under my care at the moment. :)
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[23:12] <santa_> acheronuk: if you are still awake I can explain the acc fixes, if not see you tomorrow
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[23:25] <acheronuk> santa_: just about awake
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[23:37] <santa_> acheronuk: ugh, let's discuss it tomorrow, it's already too late here in any case the fixes are already in git
[23:38] <acheronuk> santa_: ok. you want me to wait to upload? not going to do it right now, but could in the morning?
[23:39] <acheronuk> baloo-widgets5 may be the same thing as well
[23:41] <santa_> acheronuk: feel free to upload, yes
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[23:45] <acheronuk> hmmm. maybe I will now.. thanks
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