[00:24] <craigbass76> I plug an iphone into my laptop, and I can see my photos, but I'm trying to rsync ALL of the photos off of it. I can't see where it's actually mounting though.
[00:36] <jsievers> Craigbass76: last line of the mount cmd output might be revealing
[00:40] <leftyfb> craigbass76: it's not mounted in the traditional sense. I forget the protocol it's using
[00:40] <leftyfb> craigbass76: best bet is to just use something like dropbox
[00:40] <craigbass76> leftyfb, yeah, I can't remember either. I was hoping to rsync the files off, but I gave up and just dragged them with a mouse.
[00:40] <saiyanprince> hi, can we use gnome-classic in ubuntu?
[00:41] <leftyfb> saiyanprince: 16.04, yes. Not sure about 18.04
[00:41] <saiyanprince> 18.04
[00:42] <saiyanprince> every ubuntu release is called LTS, why?
[00:43] <leftyfb> !lts | saiyanprince
[00:44] <Tin_man> not every, just the Long Term Support versions.
[00:44] <saiyanprince> 17.04 was also LTS
[00:44] <saiyanprince> so every release is LTS
[00:45] <Tin_man> the .04's are LTS every 5 years
[00:45] <saiyanprince> what about 17.10?
[00:45] <Tin_man> no
[00:45] <saiyanprince> is it LTS too?
[00:45] <leftyfb> saiyanprince: 17.04 was not LTS, neither was 17.10. Your comment about "every release is LTS" is false
[00:46] <Tin_man> saiyanprince, https://www.ubuntu.com/about/release-cycle
[00:46] <leftyfb> saiyanprince: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[00:48] <saiyanprince> is it possible to install oracle 11g on ubuntu 18.04?
[00:49] <saiyanprince> so every 2 years we get LTS
[00:49] <leftyfb> saiyanprince: what is oracle 11g?
[00:50] <rud0lf> any idea why single firefox session (with opened 1 simple page, not big, no fancy content) takes up to 1.5GB?
[00:50] <rud0lf> this is ridoncoulous
[00:51] <saiyanprince> database
[00:52] <rud0lf> hmm
[00:54] <leftyfb> rud0lf: close firefox completely. Make sure it's not running with ps. Then open it up. See how much memory it takes. Then try a site like google.com and see how much memory it takes. If that is all fine, then it might be a problem with the page/application you're opening
[00:54] <leftyfb> saiyanprince: do you need help with something?
[00:55] <rud0lf> thank you kindly for answer
[00:56] <Tin_man> saiyanprince, yes it will install on ubuntu.  I use MySql myself, but to each their own..
[01:17] <lostq> how safe in terms of preventing unauthorized access to the device is the lockscreen login on android devices (assuming a strong alphanumeric passcode is used)?
[01:18] <leftyfb> lostq: wrong channel
[01:18] <lostq> leftyfb: where should I head to?
[01:18] <leftyfb> lostq: about an android question?
[01:19] <lostq> also general security
[01:20] <teward> lostq: i would go to an android related IRC channel, not the Ubuntu one.
[01:20] <teward> there's about a dozen Android support forums as well
[01:20] <lostq> teward: alright, will look further. Thanks
[01:21] <leftyfb> lostq: you have mentioned 2 different words that are topics in themselves. Maybe try joining channels with those words as the channel name?
[01:21] <leftyfb> I just don't see how anymore obvious it could be
[01:21] <lostq> I am on #android currently
[02:15] <hwdyki> i'm running into this bug: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=903838 after upgrading to the 4.4.0-134 kernel
[02:30] <hggdh> hwdyki: you might want to check with the kernel folks at #ubuntu-kernel. Just keep in mind this is Saturday/Sunday, so it may take some time
[02:33] <hwdyki> k
[02:35] <MichaelCasson> Hey guys. I'm stuck and my google-fu has failed me. How do I update from 17.04 to current? It seems I can't get there from here, but I can't figure out how to update stepwise, either (17.04 -> 17.10 -> 18.04). Is there a way besides some dirty install or just wiping and installing clean?
[02:36] <birmalpha> somebody please helpl me
[02:37] <birmalpha> i am strugling to understand how to set up SOCKS5 global settings on my lubuntu machine,
[02:37] <guiverc> MichaelCasson, 17.04 is EOL, post EOL the archive.ubuntu.com gets moved to old-releases.ubuntu.com; why you should get errors for updates/upgrades/install software etc, hold on I'm looking (you can modify your sources to point there yourself, then upgrade to 17.10 then 18.04 LTS) - use a LTS (long-term-support) release if you want longer than 9 month supported life
[02:37] <hggdh> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades
[02:38] <birmalpha> something similar to Proxifier on windows,, i cannot figure it out
[02:38] <guiverc> thanks hggdh - was still opening a browser :)
[02:38] <hggdh> guiverc: yw :-)
[02:38]  * hggdh goes to bed
[02:39] <MichaelCasson> Yeah, I'm usually on top of it, but this machine has been neglected lately. I'll check that link, thanks!
[02:39] <guiverc> MichaelCasson, i'd suggest backing up your important data, and re-install fresh (though if I knew your use I may give different advice) - stick to LTS releases too for longer life
[02:39] <PLLunlock> how do you @mention someone in irc?
[02:39] <guiverc> PLLunlock, just use their name in your text line
[02:39] <hggdh> PLLunlock: just type their nick, like I just did
[02:39] <PLLunlock> hggdh. ok
[02:39] <birmalpha> anybody please,  how do i set up global setting Socks5 for all traffic on my lubuntu 18.04 as similar to proxifier on windows???
[02:40] <PLLunlock> guiverc thanx.
[02:40] <PLLunlock> i thin it worked
[02:40] <PLLunlock> i think it worked
[02:40] <guiverc> yep
[02:41] <birmalpha> guiverc, can you help me
[02:41] <birmalpha> PLLunlock can you help me pleas
[02:41] <guiverc> birmalpha, if I could I would have; but haven't used socks in >20 years.
[02:41] <PLLunlock> with what?
[02:41] <birmalpha> proxifier on windows
[02:41] <birmalpha> can i do that on lubuntu
[02:42] <birmalpha> is there a program that sets global proxies on all traffic
[02:42] <birmalpha> i tried  Redsocks,
[02:42] <PLLunlock> proxies for what kind of traffic?
[02:42] <leftyfb> birmalpha: https://www.serverlab.ca/tutorials/linux/administration-linux/how-to-configure-proxy-on-ubuntu-18-04/
[02:43] <birmalpha> just all traffic
[02:43] <leftyfb> birmalpha: first result on google
[02:43] <birmalpha> google, says
[02:43] <birmalpha> ssh
[02:43] <birmalpha> or redsocks,
[02:43] <leftyfb> birmalpha: read the link I just gave you
[02:43] <PLLunlock> sounds like a default gateway configuration problem
[02:44] <birmalpha> yes i seen that page
[02:44] <birmalpha> but i use LUBUNTU 18 and its a little different
[02:45] <leftyfb> birmalpha: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A90hsGFY7Es   also from google
[02:45] <leftyfb> oh wait, that might not be it
[02:45] <PLLunlock> birmalpha you might be able to set it up in a firewall or router.
[02:45] <birmalpha> wow
[02:45] <leftyfb> birmalpha: https://askubuntu.com/questions/150210/how-do-i-set-system-wide-proxy-servers-in-xubuntu-lubuntu-or-ubuntu-studio
[02:46] <birmalpha> you got that link fast im watching now it looks like what im looking for though
[02:46] <leftyfb> birmalpha: http://argansos.blogspot.com/2012/05/configure-proxy-on-lubuntu.html
[02:46] <birmalpha> omg,  thanks guys
[02:47] <guiverc> birmalpha, is it really different?  the screen shots will different due lxde/gnome, but leftyfb's first paste looks ok to me (I cna't check, I only have lxqt on my box; 18.10)
[02:47] <birmalpha> this is all good stuff i been searching for days
[02:47] <birmalpha> and i havent seen none of this  none
[02:47] <leftyfb> birmalpha: all of that were on the first page of google searching for "lxde global proxy"
[02:48] <PLLunlock> when using google; type the words you expect in your ANSWER.  Don't type questions.
[02:48] <birmalpha> how ?
[02:48] <birmalpha> what you mean, exactly
[02:49] <leftyfb> PLLunlock: I find most results using words from the question, not the answer. Since a lot of people don't know the answer they're looking for.
[02:49] <birmalpha> hmmmm,
[02:49] <leftyfb> birmalpha: nevermind that. Good luck setting up your proxy settings
[02:49] <birmalpha> THANKS,,
[02:49] <birmalpha> i will look this stuff up
[02:49] <PLLunlock> a question is a start to find the terms of the answer
[02:49] <birmalpha> thank you guys allot : )
[02:51] <birmalpha> ok, leftyfb i kind of understand what you mean, i will try to rearange my search techniques
[02:51] <leftyfb> birmalpha: the answers you're looking for should be in either of the 2 links I gave you
[02:52] <MichaelCasson> Hmm... still no joy on the upgrade. Followed all the steps (again) changed my sources.list to old-releases, still get "An upgrade from 'zesty' to 'bionic' is not supported with this tool."
[02:53] <leftyfb> birmalpha: btw, last I checked, https cannot be used through a transparent proxy
[02:53] <MichaelCasson> Could I upgrade if I burned a 17.10 disc and used that?
[02:53] <leftyfb> MichaelCasson: you don't upgrade from 17.04 to 18.04. You need to go to 17.10 first
[02:54] <leftyfb> MichaelCasson: you are better off just installing 18.04 from scratch and restoring from backup
[02:54] <MichaelCasson> I'm trying to get to 17.10, just not having any luck.
[02:55] <leftyfb> MichaelCasson: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades
[02:55] <MichaelCasson> Yeah, I might just have to do that. I'm dual booting this machine and getting everything just right is a pain I was tryng to avoid.
[02:55] <leftyfb> MichaelCasson: update the sources.list to be 17.10(artful), then upgrade to 17.10
[02:56] <leftyfb> according to the above link
[02:56] <MichaelCasson> Ah. I was using the one I was on, not the one I was trying to get to.
[02:56] <leftyfb> MichaelCasson: because you didn't read the instructions from the link provided
[02:57] <MichaelCasson> "To begin the upgrade, make sure you have a sources.list like the following, with CODENAME being your release, e.g. quantal."
[02:57] <MichaelCasson> My release is zesty.
[02:57] <MichaelCasson> I'm trying to get to artful.
[02:58] <MichaelCasson> I did read it. :/
[02:58] <birmalpha> I HAVE FOUND MY ANSWERS .. DAYS I HAVE BEEN SEARCHING, AND ALL THAT IT TOOK WAS TO LINK UP ON THIS HEXCHAT AND I FOUND MY ANSWER IN 5 MINUTES
[02:59] <birmalpha> I AM SO SO RELEIVED RIGHT NOW,  THNKS AGAIN
[02:59] <San_IL> Hi, can anybody help me about LUKS encryption?
[03:02] <San_IL> I had my external hdd encrypted three times today, because after few mounts I'm getting a "bad superblock" error with no way to fix it. I did use ext4 filesystem. I don't know whats wrong. Maybe using ext3 or disabling journal would help?
[03:32] <guiverc> MichaelCasson, what stage are you at?  if you `sudo apt update` do you get errors (any lines saying zesty still?)
[03:38] <MichaelCasson> I get an error:
[03:38] <MichaelCasson> "Err:4 http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu artful Release
[03:38] <MichaelCasson>   404  Not Found"
[03:39] <MichaelCasson> First three:
[03:39] <MichaelCasson> Ign:1 http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu artful InRelease
[03:39] <MichaelCasson> Ign:2 http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu artful-updates InRelease
[03:39] <MichaelCasson> Ign:3 http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu artful-security InRelease
[03:39] <guiverc> please pastebin if it's over a single line... artful hasn't yet been moved there; it's still in archives.ubuntu.com (but due EOL it'll go there first) - it was the zesty lines I was more interested in.
[03:40] <guiverc> s;/go there first/go there very soon/
[03:41] <MichaelCasson> No lines saying zesty.
[03:42] <guiverc> :)  (good); the lines saying artful should currently point @ archives.ubuntu.com  (I forget which day it'll be moved..); then sudo apt update; then try do-release-upgrade again
[03:43] <MichaelCasson> "Clearsigned file isn't valid, got 'NOSPLIT' (does the network require authentication?)"
[03:44] <MichaelCasson> got this for all three sources
[03:45] <guiverc> i've never had that error, but this https://askubuntu.com/questions/899009/sudo-apt-update-always-giving-clearsigned-file-isnt-valid-got-nosplit-does may have answers (proxy settings)
[03:51] <MichaelCasson> I'm not using any proxy, I've now created an apt.conf setting it as such. Same error. :/
[03:54] <guiverc> i would then undo any changes made to apt.conf if they didn't help (or restore .bak etc) -- looking
[03:57] <MichaelCasson> It didn't exist before, so I'll just delete it.
[04:01] <MichaelCasson> Found it. 'archive.ubuntu.com' not 'archives.ubuntu.com'
[04:04] <MichaelCasson> 'do-release-upgrade' still trying to take me to zesty, though.
[04:04] <guiverc> :)  sorry if it was because of my typo - I didn't notice it
[04:05] <MichaelCasson> No worries.
[04:05] <MichaelCasson> 1291 packages can be upgraded. Do this or won't matter?
[04:08] <guiverc> is your 17.04 up-to-date (if it wasn't latest, I'd upgrade to latest before release-upgrade to next version, but it may not be necessary)
[04:10] <MichaelCasson> check that by setting sources back to zesty?
[04:12] <guiverc> if it was me; no i'd go ahead as download occurs first (you can always ^C out; autoclean;autoremove first... but your choice)
[04:12] <guiverc> ignore my second first
[04:13] <MichaelCasson> Geronimo
[04:23] <cjwfuller> :q
[04:27] <MichaelCasson> I'm running out of steam tonight. If I'm not back later, thanks guiverc for getting me going.
[04:27] <guiverc> you're most welcome :)
[04:48] <wisewolf> hey i got some questions
[04:48] <wisewolf> i did a port scan of myself and not all ports are in steathed mode
[05:14] <lotuspsychje> wisewolf: wich services are open?
[05:15] <wisewolf> let me check again
[05:15] <wisewolf> might be 33 or 30
[05:16] <lotuspsychje> wisewolf: nmap -PN -sV yourip
[05:16] <lotuspsychje> external ip
[05:16] <wisewolf> im using shield up
[05:16] <wisewolf> ok its port 0 and 19
[05:17] <wisewolf> they are closed
[05:20] <lotuspsychje> wisewolf: open or closed, doesnt specially mean bad
[05:20] <lotuspsychje> wisewolf: important is your services up to date and not vulnerable
[05:20] <wisewolf> thats why i install as few programs as possible and keep them up todate
[05:22] <wisewolf> ty for the help
[05:22] <wisewolf> i did the nmap scan and looking at the results
[05:22] <lotuspsychje> wisewolf: what services are bound to your ports?
[05:23] <wisewolf> it says 1 unreconized service running
[05:23] <lotuspsychje> wisewolf: did you scan -sV like i said?
[05:23] <wisewolf> ya
[05:24] <wisewolf> but it did not list what it found
[05:24] <lotuspsychje> wisewolf: hastebin the result plz, with your ip adress
[05:24] <lotuspsychje> without
[05:24] <wisewolf> it just says 53/tcp / open tcpwrapped and 8181/tcp open unknown
[05:26] <wisewolf> brb a sec on other vm computer
[06:39] <Whiskey> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/RaspberryPi says "Use dpkg-divert to stop these files being overwritten on package updates."
[06:39] <Whiskey> How exactly do i use dpkg-divert ?
[06:59] <DrManhattan> hello, just wondering if an Athlon II X2 250u would be powerful enough for a simple file server - headless ubuntu server 18.04, samba and FTP
[07:07] <vegombrei> DrManhattan: yes it should be fine
[07:10] <DrManhattan> Oohrah - that lets me cut down my plex server wattage in a major way. Thanks
[07:40] <kiziaru> hello
[07:40] <kiziaru> i have htop running in another terminal
[07:40] <kiziaru> in tree mode
[07:41] <kiziaru> and i see that some programs/utilities have two instances running
[07:41] <kiziaru> like rkit-daemon
[07:42] <kiziaru> what does that mean?
[07:45] <mouses> kiziaru: htop shows individual threads as separate processes by default
[07:45] <mouses> kiziaru: You can press H to toggle that behavior
[07:50] <kiziaru> so why does something like rkit-daemon run two threads?
[07:52] <kiziaru> wait, looked it up
[07:52] <kiziaru> thanks for the help
[08:02] <Edisto> How do you fix? "Wine cannot find the FreeType font library.  To enable Wine to use TrueType fonts"?
[08:02] <Edisto> I've tried using wintricks allfonts but it still gives me same error
[08:08] <Zexaron> Hello
[08:08] <Zexaron> is there any linux command that would output verbose info all about sata devices and filesystem on an ongoing basis
[08:09] <Zexaron> I want to keep looking at the output in real time, not only after error happens
[08:10] <Zexaron> plesae don't say journalctl, i know that already, it's really not and has a lot of irrelevant info
[08:11] <w3c4> i think "hwinfo" somthing like that
[08:12] <dutchuss2016> hi now that im registered and verified i need some help im pulling my hair out
[08:14] <geirha> Try wearing a bathing cap. Should make it harder to pull your hair out
[08:16] <dutchuss2016> downloaded latest live cd made a dvd restarted computer booted from cd pressed tab told it english then told it i want to try before install (to make sure everything works) and i got acpi exception  could not find/resolve named package element: LMK  20170831/dspkginit-381
[08:17] <dutchuss2016> any ideas
[08:18] <dutchuss2016> this is for distro 18.04 btw
[08:20] <guiverc> dutchuss2016, did you verify download (compare md5sum of iso etc before writing to dvd; I'd also suggest 'try ubuntu' on another machine to ensure it's not a bad dvd-write)
[08:21] <guiverc> https://tutorials.ubuntu.com/tutorial/tutorial-how-to-verify-ubuntu
[08:22] <linux8659> hi ,does intel n3050 1.6Ghz-2.16Ghz is enough to run ubuntu 64 gnome ??thanks
[08:23] <guiverc> (or https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM)
[08:24] <guiverc> linux8659, yes, but I'd consider memory too
[08:25] <linux8659> guiverc it has 4gb but supports 8.but are you sure this processor is enough?
[08:27] <guiverc> i've not used cpu; but i've run 18.04 on a c2d (core 2 duo); but gnome would not be my first choice...
[08:28] <guiverc> fyi: the fsb speed of machine I'm assuming it's like is 667mhz
[08:28] <linux8659> guiverc yes
[08:29] <linux8659> mate maybe better?
[08:29] <mouses> Zexaron: Personally I use munin for that, works really well
[08:29] <mouses> Zexaron: http://mouses.xyz/munin/localdomain/localhost.localdomain/index.html
[08:30] <guiverc> linux8659, mate on 18.04 is GTK3+ so would not be my first choice either; mate was lighter before gtk+3 move so 16.04 mate is lighter.  If it were me I'd use XFCE or LXDE - you can always have both installed...
[08:30] <mouses> linux8659: I agree with guiverc on this - I'd go LXDE of XFCE4 - mate/gnome is going to be a little heavy for that hardware
[08:30] <linux8659> so gnome might not run properly
[08:31] <guiverc> eg. I have a t43 (thinkpad celeron single core) lubuntu 16.04; MATE & XFCE run fine on that machine with 1.5gb - I'd not try gnome on my t43; but yours should run it fine, it'd just not be my choice.
[08:31] <mouses> linux8659: it'll run, but on that CPU i'd consider xbuntu or lubuntu
[08:32] <guiverc> run versus nice-to-run is very subjective.. yes it'll run, but will the experience be as good as .... (my point)
[08:32] <linux8659> thanks guys I understand (shame I don t like xfce...e
[08:33] <mouses> linux8659: check LXDE then, you might like it more
[08:33] <linux8659> I need openvpn and torbrowser to run simustanously...
[08:34] <guiverc> linux8659, runnings apps like that at same time is more a factor of ram; more than cpu
[08:34] <linux8659> guiverc yes!
[08:35] <bouma> could anyone suggest what i might have done wrong? ive used dd to clone a linux live cd to a file, and then written it back with cdw, it wont boot. i can mount the file and examine it. some of the files give an io error. i believe the cd was undamaged and dd ran without error
[08:40] <guiverc> linux8659, here are the requirements https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements  -- which include graphics card requirement you didn't mention!
[08:40] <guiverc> (nor me - I didn't mention it either; a requirement of gnome)
[08:40] <mouses> bouma: I/O errors generally are an indication of a damaged file system/bad media :(
[08:42] <linux8659> yes but it say minimum dual core 2Ghz ,this is 1.6 base frequecy up to 2.16 ,wich counts ,1.6 or 2.16??
[08:47] <guiverc> linux8659, technically i believe it meets the requirement, however as stated it's just meeting it.   why I've suggested XFCE & LXDE - you'll have decide yourself if you think it's fast enough for you, not going to annoy you (checking your video card is 3d accelerated capable; 256mb ram minimum etc)
[08:48] <linux8659> guiverc THANKS
[08:49] <guiverc> linux8659, fyi: even MATE on 18.04 LTS may be faster than gnome (if you don't like xfce/lxde; MATE on 18.04 just isn't as light as older versions)
[08:50] <linux8659> thanks
[08:53] <linux8659> would debian be faster since it comes with less packages installed ???
[08:53] <guiverc> linux8659, that is a off-topic question. we only support Ubuntu here.
[08:54] <guiverc> fyi:  I'd think not
[10:16] <dutchuss2016> is anyone who knows anything about the live cd online
[10:16] <gogeta> dutchuss2016, ?
[10:17] <dutchuss2016> im having a seriousl issue with the machine i want to put ubuntu on
[10:17] <gogeta> dutchuss2016, gotta be a bit more clear
[10:17] <dutchuss2016> burned the live cd correctly (i know this because my grandmas machine is currently running the live cd right now
[10:18] <blackroot> what exactly is the issue?
[10:19] <dutchuss2016> but im getting an error when i try to run the exact same disc on this machine
[10:20] <dutchuss2016> could not find/resolve named package element LMK 20170831 dspkginit-381
[10:20] <dutchuss2016> also noticed when this machine trys to load the bootloader the disc skips it and heads treaight to the ubuntu installer
[10:21] <blackroot> have you tried doing the install from a usb stick?
[10:21] <dutchuss2016> there is a difference in dvd drive ages between the machine thats currently running the file right now and this machine
[10:21] <dutchuss2016> this machine refused to load from usb that was my very first 5 attempts
[10:22] <dutchuss2016> bios ignores the fact that the usb fdd is there at all
[10:22] <blackroot> maybe the stick is usb3 and your machine doesn't support it
[10:23] <gogeta> i dont where thats would be a issue
[10:24] <gogeta> usb3 stick should work on usb2 just fine
[10:24] <blackroot> not all do
[10:24] <blackroot> and if the usb stick is of the verbatim brand, i've had major issues with those
[10:24] <blackroot> but i'm just throwing out suggestions
[10:25] <blackroot> dutchuss2016: try taking out the dvd rom from your grandma's computer and put it in the machine you want to install ubuntu on. if same error occurs, it's not related to the install source
[10:27] <gogeta> looks like a acpi error
[10:27] <gogeta> google is your friend
[10:27] <dutchuss2016> i cant take out her dvd rom is soldered to the mobo
[10:28] <gogeta> it says the error is annoying but harmless
[10:28] <dutchuss2016> google is useless i already went there it tried telling me it was my hard drive (which isnt the case cause i tried booting without the hard drive even connected and got the same issue
[10:28] <gogeta> the system should still bot
[10:28] <gogeta> boot
[10:29] <dutchuss2016> after that error ubuntu tries to boot and throws the same error and boots into a command line shell
[10:29] <dutchuss2016> instead of the full desktop gui
[10:29] <gogeta> try passing acpi=off on the live cd then
[10:30] <dutchuss2016> im kinda talking to you guys on the computer thats having issues
[10:30] <gogeta> ummm
[10:30] <dutchuss2016> and getting some other tips in the ubuntu discord
[10:30] <dutchuss2016> in currently booted into windblows 10
[10:32] <gogeta> dutchuss2016, do what i said
[10:32] <gogeta> dutchuss2016, that gets rid of the error
[10:32] <gogeta> dutchuss2016, its a acpi issue with your bios
[10:33] <dutchuss2016> so when ubuntu boots go to options f2 i believe acpi off?
[10:34] <gogeta> dutchuss2016, i think its esc to get to the live cd bootloader then add acpi=off to the kernel line
[10:34] <gogeta> dutchuss2016, have you ever passed a grub command before
[10:35] <dutchuss2016> never needed too every machine ive ever installed ubuntu on has just worked as expected
[10:35] <dutchuss2016> not been a complete bitch about it because bios
[10:35] <gogeta> dutchuss2016, if you machine has a bios update that may also fix it
[10:35] <dutchuss2016> haha your funny
[10:36] <dutchuss2016> this machine bios update
[10:36] <dutchuss2016> considering ats an am3+ mobo that stopped manufacture 4 years ago and is the last revision im positive its on the last version of the bios
[10:37] <gogeta> dutchuss2016, well acpi=off should get rid of the error and boot
[10:39] <dutchuss2016> press escape at what point duing the boot to be able to set that flag?
[10:40] <gogeta> dutchuss2016, one you have a working install you can add it to your d40-custom to make it a permant option
[10:40] <gogeta> dutchuss2016, there should be like a 10 second windows after your pc starts and the live cd starts loading
[10:41] <gogeta> dutchuss2016, normaly you see the ubuntu logo
[10:41] <gogeta> before the animated logo
[10:42] <dutchuss2016> so pretty much hit escape as soon as my screen turns that fugly shade of purple
[10:42] <gogeta> dutchuss2016, it will say start ubuntu or install ubuntu and other options
[10:42] <gogeta> dutchuss2016, yea
[10:43] <EriC^^> dutchuss2016: are you using uefi mode?
[10:43] <dutchuss2016> yes
[10:43] <dutchuss2016> my win 10 boots uefi
[10:44] <gogeta> EriC^^, he need to start with acpi=off didnt think efi came into play
[10:44] <EriC^^> dutchuss2016: when you boot the live usb you should get a menu with grub at the top, press "e" over try ubuntu and add what you want to the line that says linux /boot/vmlinuz
[10:45] <dutchuss2016> on this machine i dont get the grub window thats what ive been trying to say
[10:45] <dutchuss2016> it skips that and goes straight to the fugly purple shit
[10:45] <EriC^^> why are you using acpi=off? you've got to pay attention to the temps, it might not control the fans anymore
[10:45] <gogeta> dutchuss2016, doing what i said will show it
[10:45] <gogeta> EriC^^, bios conflict
[10:45] <EriC^^> dutchuss2016: hold shift to get grub
[10:45] <EriC^^> dutchuss2016: i think it's not booting the live usb then..
[10:46] <EriC^^> how'd you make the live usb?
[10:46] <dutchuss2016> live dvd
[10:46] <gogeta> EriC^^, live cd is working on another machine
[10:46] <EriC^^> aha
[10:46] <gogeta> EriC^^, he gets a acpi error then drops to bash
[10:46] <dutchuss2016> and how else do ya think i made it i put a dvd in and told windows to burn the iso at 1x speed (the disc works in my grandmas machine but not mine
[10:47] <EriC^^> try holding shift see if you get grub, esc might work if shift doesnt
[10:47] <cukier> I just connected a hard drive to my computer and formatted it via gparted. If I mount it via `Files` file manager, I need root permission to add files in there. How do I make it so I can edit files by default?
[10:47] <EriC^^> cukier: what filesystem did you format it?
[10:47] <cukier> ext4
[10:48] <EriC^^> cukier: type "sudo chown $USER: -R /mountpoint"
[10:48] <EriC^^> cukier: /mountpoint is possibly /media/$USER/something .. get it from the output of "df"
[10:48] <dutchuss2016> ill be back in 10 mins if i fail at getting into the live cd and 15 if i succeed
[10:49] <cukier> Thank you!
[10:49] <EriC^^> cukier: no problem
[10:49] <cukier> <3
[10:50] <dutchuss2016> for the acpi off method is there anything i have to type?
[10:50] <dutchuss2016> or is it a menu i just toggle?
[10:50] <EriC^^> dutchuss2016: you add acpi=off in the kernel line instead of quiet splash then press f10 to boot
[10:51] <dutchuss2016> so pressing esc instead of tab will give me a sudo terminal type window
[10:51] <gogeta> dutchuss2016, if it works and you pc does not melt then you ccan make it a perment option post install
[10:52] <dutchuss2016> i have a cooler master hyper evo 212 with a custom dial nob fan that overrides the board anyways
[10:52] <gogeta> dutchuss2016, your golden then
[10:53] <dutchuss2016> ill try holding shift during the cd load and if that fails ill rape the escape key untill i get ty type acpi off
[10:54] <dutchuss2016> ill be back shortly with either good news or "other news"
[10:55] <gogeta> lol
[11:05] <Zexaron> Hello
[11:05] <Zexaron> I'm troubleshooting SSDs and I would like to get some verbose/debug messaging visible if possible a constant console opened with them displaying in real time
[11:06] <Zexaron> like the verbose output from boot
[11:06] <Zexaron> but it would continue when in desktop somehow
[11:06] <Zexaron> I want only messages about filesystem and sata devices, no other stuff
[11:06] <Zexaron> I installed a bunch of logger apps
[11:06] <Zexaron> loggedfs for example
[11:07] <qwebirc66236> Hi, I'm new to IRC. I'm stuck upgrading to 18.04 I've just filed a question on Launchpad. https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/672977
[11:07] <Zexaron> but not sure if it outputs kernel stuff about sata messages
[11:07] <qwebirc66236> My machine has text on the screen after attempting to boot. I'm not sure what to do next.
[11:07] <qwebirc66236> I've left the text there, and hoping for some live support.
[11:09] <EriC^^> qwebirc66236: what text does it have
[11:10] <qwebirc66236> hi Eric, the last line on the screen says: [OK] Started GNOME Display Manager. Dispatcher Service....before the pop link was shut down....
[11:11] <EriC^^> qwebirc66236: try booting a live usb to troubleshoot
[11:11] <qwebirc66236> The ubuntu I was installing was on a usb itself.
[11:11] <qwebirc66236> I run ubuntu from usb day to day
[11:12] <qwebirc66236> should I turn it off and see what it does next?
[11:12] <qwebirc66236> I'm thinking I should just install 18.04 on a new usb and then see if I can recover my files from my current usb
[11:13] <EriC^^> qwebirc66236: that'd work
[11:13] <qwebirc66236> is there anything I can do which can help then next unfortunate that tries to upgrade to 18.04?
[11:14] <EriC^^> fwiw usb installations have some issues, lots of corrupted filesystems and whatnot
[11:14] <EriC^^> qwebirc66236: i dont think so
[11:14] <qwebirc66236> ok, so it's just a known problem? I'll not waste any more time then. Thanks a lot for giving me an immediate response Eric. Have a good Sunday.
[11:15] <qwebirc66236> thanks, bye
[11:15] <EriC^^> qwebirc66236: no problem, bye
[11:15] <EriC^^> yeah usb's cant take the constant small writes and stuff from an installed os, it's better to use different media
[11:15] <EriC^^> they die way quicker
[11:16] <qwebirc66236> what's a better way to have a temporary medium to run ubuntu on a windows machine?
[11:16] <qwebirc66236> I don't want to install anything on this machine, it's a work machine.
[11:17] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[11:17] <qwebirc66236> I have been able to use a usb really well. Inobtrusive. I buy a new one every couple of years.
[11:19] <dutchuss2016> so im back with some new developments
[11:20] <dutchuss2016> acpi offgot a little further gave me the ubuntu logo with some more errors then eventually blackscreened and stopped
[11:22] <EriC^^> qwebirc66236: hmm, maybe a small ssd with usb to sata cable? they're so lightweight and super fast
[11:22] <dutchuss2016> is there somewhere you guys would feel comfortable opening images (i took pictures of the screens of test that i got
[11:22] <EriC^^> qwebirc66236: i think the problem you have isnt related to the usb, seems like some package related to fs mounting and other tools didnt install so possibly that, you could use a live usb to decrypt mount and chroot and try to fix apt if you want to get to the bottom of it
[11:23] <EriC^^> dutchuss2016: imgur.com
[11:23] <qwebirc66236> EricC^^: thanks, I'll do that to get the files back. I was just wondering what advice you'd give to me. What should I use instead of a usb stick?
[11:26] <dutchuss2016> https://imgur.com/9QDlj0z
[11:26] <dutchuss2016> https://imgur.com/eG2oEXW
[11:27] <dutchuss2016> https://imgur.com/ia4Xo2O
[11:27] <dutchuss2016> then black screen and dvd drive stopped reading dvd (stayed that way for 3 mins where i called it and rebooted back into windblows
[11:29] <EriC^^> qwebirc66236: maybe some portable external ssd?
[11:30] <EriC^^> you could use usb3.0 that's a 5gigabit limit vs sata's 6gigabit, so you'd still be able to get 600+MB/s
[11:30] <EriC^^> qwebirc66236: the ssd's are incredibly lightweight, just more bulky than a usb
[11:32] <qwebirc66236> EricC^^: thanks, I'll look for that
[11:33] <dutchuss2016> any one got anything on my images what else i can try
[11:36] <ledeni> dutchuss2016: you using internal or external (usb) sound card?
[11:37] <qwebirc66236> EricC^^: Do you mind helping me still? I've just booted another USB ubuntu installation of 16.04. It says it doesn't recognize the file system of my current USB. I haven't run that 16.04 installation for a while, and I'm updating it right now. I'll try my current USB stick again when the updates have run through.
[11:38] <jeremy31> dutchuss2016, add module_blacklist=snd_hda_intel,r8169   to grub
[11:39] <tomreyn> jeremy31: i guess dutchuss2016 is going to need an internet connection.
[11:39] <dutchuss2016> what you mean tom
[11:40] <jeremy31> tomreyn, they could skip using r8169 on the command
[11:40] <tomreyn> dutchuss2016: r8169 is a driver for your ethernet
[11:41] <tomreyn> but actually you might get away with an offline installation.
[11:41] <tomreyn> but i think those two modules failing are still a result of the cdrom not working well on this drive
[11:41] <dutchuss2016> im not even trying to install im trying to get into the live desktop
[11:41] <tomreyn> or dvd rather
[11:42] <jeremy31> tomreyn, I think dutchuss2016 said that the DVD worked in a different computer
[11:42] <tomreyn> dutchuss2016: you mentioned earlier that you were initially trying to boot off a usb storage, but you said you were using the "usb-fdd" option for this. fdd stands for floppy disk drive, so a usb connected floppy drive.
[11:42] <dutchuss2016> aye that it did
[11:42] <dutchuss2016> worked flawlessly in a seprate machine
[11:43] <R13ose> I never used apt-fast, how is that faster than apt-get?
[11:43] <tomreyn> jeremy31: optical media will often work well on the drive they were burnt on but not on other drives.
[11:43] <taylan> I'm on the LTS release and the dovecot package seems somewhat broken.  it won't create the dovecot group and the dovenul user automatically, aboring the apt-get install process
[11:43] <taylan> is this a known problem?
[11:43] <dutchuss2016> didnt have to do any acip off shit didnt have to do anything just popped it in and told the computer to boot from it and 2 mins later i was looking at a shiny ubunty disktop
[11:43] <tomreyn> jeremy31: so is there no other usb boot option than usb-fdd on this computer?
[11:44] <jeremy31> tomreyn, I don't know
[11:44] <tomreyn> jeremy31: sorry, didnt mean to ask you ;)
[11:44] <dutchuss2016> its the exact opposite in my case the disc is failing in the drive it was burned with but working flawlessly with a drive it wasnt burned with
[11:45] <tomreyn> dutchuss2016: so is there no other usb boot option than usb-fdd on this computer?
[11:45] <Zexaron> Hi, is there a one-big command in linux do make myself root, I'm doing SSD/Sata device/port/Controller troubleshooting, im tired of text file persmissions and having to type passwoerd in
[11:45] <dutchuss2016> usb fdd usb cd usb hdd none worked
[11:45] <Zexaron> everything I do, open, type, run, would be super-root
[11:45] <taylan> Zexaron: "su -"
[11:45] <Zexaron> thanks a lot
[11:45] <blscoe> holy cow
[11:45] <taylan> Zexaron: that will log you in as root
[11:45] <Zexaron> tylan: su what? what to do with that
[11:45] <dutchuss2016> and rufus borked my usb drive (theres a 2 mb fat partition that i cant delet right in the middle of it)
[11:45] <tomreyn> dutchuss2016: hmm, that's weird indeed. but in my exoperience optical media is just unreliable, i try to prevent them whenever possible.
[11:46] <taylan> Zexaron: I assumed you're in a shell.  that's a command you would execute in a shell to re-login as root.
[11:46] <Zexaron> taylan: oh I have to relogin
[11:46] <Zexaron> I'll try
[11:46] <taylan> Zexaron: or did you want your whole desktop environment to be root?
[11:47] <taylan> Zexaron: no, that command would do that, in the shell, but only in the shell
[11:47] <dutchuss2016> rufus borked my usb drive anyways
[11:47] <tomreyn> dutchuss2016: so your other computer which still works runs which OS? (do you have another linux system?)
[11:47] <dutchuss2016> nope
[11:47] <dutchuss2016> the other computer that booted the cd fine is a windows 10 machine
[11:48] <tomreyn> dutchuss2016: you should be able to delete the fat partition using windows disk management
[11:48] <dutchuss2016> and needs to stay that way
[11:48] <dutchuss2016> nope
[11:48] <dutchuss2016> i tried that
[11:48] <dutchuss2016> right clicking the fat partition all options are greyed out
[11:49] <dutchuss2016> and if i try to format it into exfat or ntfs (fat32 isnt even an option ) windows just fails to format it
[11:49] <tomreyn> dutchuss2016: hmm, well, i'm not good at helping with windows, especially not on #ubuntu ;) so i'm afraid i can't help there unless you'll boot the windows computer from the optical ubuntu image.
[11:50] <dutchuss2016> thats the problem im currently on the machine thats failing to do just that
[11:50] <Zexaron> taylan: I want every single thing as full-root no questions asked kernel level access
[11:50] <tomreyn> dutchuss2016: we can try focussing on getting a better idea why the system you're trying to install ubuntu on isnt booting properly, if you prefer
[11:50] <Zexaron> taylan: like if I'm the kernel
[11:50] <dutchuss2016> thats what im trying to do
[11:51] <BluesKaj> dutchuss2016, try gparted live media, it'll run as an OS off usb or cd, and you'll be able to format your partition with it
[11:51] <dutchuss2016> i posted some imijur links to some post acpi =off images above i can repost if needed
[11:52] <dutchuss2016> i dont want to format my hdd untill i know that ununtu will work
[11:52] <tomreyn> dutchuss2016: i'Ve seen the three images you posted to imgur.com. if you press escape by the time the screen which says "Ubuntu 18.04" (with those dots) appears, you can get to see more output
[11:53] <dutchuss2016> if i format my hdd prior to knowing that ubuntu works how am i supposed to get back into winodows to keep troubleshooting
[11:53] <tomreyn> dutchuss2016: i dont think anyone suggested formatting your hdd?
[11:53] <Zexaron> taylan: I want everything, shell and desktop, when I open dolphin, I want it to run as root, when I open CAJA, root, root, I need to OPEN ALL FILES without the stupid permissions
[11:54]  * BluesKaj shrugs ,you can lead a horse to water .........
[11:54] <taylan> Zexaron: see if the login screen lets you log in as root.  if not, I don't know.
[11:55] <dutchuss2016> do you guys want me to make a ficeo of the entire boot process
[11:55] <dutchuss2016> video*
[11:55] <Zexaron> areas like this is where one would expect linux to differ from other OS, my assumptions were wrong meh
[11:55] <BluesKaj> !gparted | dutchuss2016
[11:55] <Zexaron> how hard is to make a command "sudo give-me-full-root now"
[11:56] <Zexaron> I don't know, i've been beating it for hours and im dealing with kindergarden basic stuff like finding a PID to a process, I maybe should take a break or another distro
[11:56] <BluesKaj> Zexaron, sudo su
[11:57] <Zexaron> will that run dolphin as root ?
[11:57] <Zexaron> sudo dolphin doesn't work
[11:57] <Zexaron> Oh I forgot to mention this is Linx Mint mate
[11:57] <tomreyn> dutchuss2016: i think the more promising approach is to try to make the usb drive you have work again, which is why i think BluesKaj is suggesting to boot your computer off a gparted-live iso (written to optical media).
[11:58] <BluesKaj> you don't run dolphin as root you run root from dolphin
[11:58] <kostkon> !mint | Zexaron
[11:58] <Zexaron> But it's not that different in this regard is it
[11:58] <jeremy31> Zexaron Linux Mint support is on Spot Chat IRC
[11:58] <dutchuss2016> wait a sec
[11:58] <R13ose> Any thoughts on my question?
[11:59] <tomreyn> dutchuss2016: but if you prefer trying to debug the ubuntu installer boot you could press escape as the "Ubuntu 18.04" screen appears, then take another photo.
[11:59] <dutchuss2016> usb 3 is the blue ports correct
[11:59] <jeremy31> dutchuss2016 yes
[11:59] <dutchuss2016> i get usb 3 and usb 2 mixed up these days
[11:59] <dutchuss2016> will a ubuntu live usb boot on a usb 3 port?
[12:00] <jeremy31> dutchuss2016 I think it should
[12:00] <ducasse> dutchuss2016: yes
[12:00] <R13ose> dutchuss2016: why not?
[12:00] <dutchuss2016> well thats what ive been attempting with is usb 3 and my bos completly ignore it
[12:00] <tomreyn> dutchuss2016: yes, usb3 is blue, and yes, ubuntu can boot fine off it. the question is rather whether your bios can do so, too.
[12:01] <dutchuss2016> so do i really need to worry about the usb drive being split into 3 partitions inorder for a live cd to wotk on it?
[12:01] <R13ose> dutchuss2016: is your boot list able to see the USB key?
[12:01] <dutchuss2016> that 2 mb partition is right in the middle
[12:01] <tomreyn> dutchuss2016: not strictly, you can just overwrite it.
[12:02] <tomreyn> dutchuss2016: try using etcher.io (this is a website, too) to write the image to the usb. it's usually the least painful and most reliable tool in my expierence.
[12:02] <dutchuss2016> what im saying is if i try a live usb on say partition 3 of my usb stick (12 gb available out of the full 16) will usb 2 see the partition with the boot instructions and boot from it
[12:03] <dutchuss2016> if this mobo cant boot from usb 2 then i need to throw my computer out a window
[12:04] <tomreyn> dutchuss2016: this partition is just a record in your partition table. there are software which will write isos to usb storages and will just ignore the partition table on the usb storage, creating a new one.
[12:04] <R13ose> dutchuss2016: what is your ultimate goal?
[12:05] <mouses> tomreyn: ++++ re etcher.io, it's really the only boot image creation tool i've used that 'just always works'
[12:06] <tomreyn> R13ose: installing ubuntu 18.04 on a computer which has trouble booting off an 18.04 optical media (ethernet and audio drivers fail to initialize). the same optical media seems to work ok on another computer.
[12:06] <dutchuss2016> rufus didnt like me plugging my usb stick in while it was running....
[12:06] <tomreyn> dutchuss2016: then dont use rufu
[12:07] <tomreyn> s
[12:07] <BluesKaj> p[lug it in before you run rufus
[12:07] <dutchuss2016> no it wasnt rugfus it was indows complaing that a 2 mb partition is too small to even be accessed
[12:08] <dutchuss2016> but therettically i shouldnt have to worry about that
[12:08] <R13ose> Windows?
[12:09] <dutchuss2016> jesus fucking christ rurfus i knwo what formatting does im not a fucking retard
[12:10] <tomreyn> !language | dutchuss2016
[12:11] <dutchuss2016> oh wonderful
[12:11] <dutchuss2016> windows is stoopid
[12:12] <dutchuss2016> it assigned my dvd drives drive letter to my usb sticks 3 partitions when it got plugged in
[12:14] <dutchuss2016> ok so rufus fixed my usb drive that it broke
[12:14] <dutchuss2016> i have the full 16 gb in a contiguous partition again
[12:14] <dutchuss2016> now im gonna try to make the usb media for the 17th time
[12:15] <dutchuss2016> copying iso files
[12:16] <dutchuss2016> will usb also potentally fix the aspi issues?
[12:16] <ledeni> dutchuss2016: no
[12:16] <dutchuss2016> so if im even able to boot i still havce to do acpi off?
[12:17] <ledeni> dutchuss2016: frist boot normally
[12:18] <tomreyn> dutchuss2016: do you mean aspi (advanced scsi programming interface) or acpi (advanced configuration and power interface)?
[12:19] <dutchuss2016> the origional issue was an ACPI error upon live cd load
[12:19] <dutchuss2016> ACPI EXCEPTION
[12:19] <tomreyn> ok
[12:19] <dutchuss2016> i have a picture of it plastered on my screen if you want it
[12:20] <qwebirc66236> EricC^^: OK. I'm booted up on the 16.04 usb. Fully updated now. I've inserted the other usb which doesn't boot properly. I think I've been able to unlock that volume. It says doesn't recognize file system. I've opened GParted. /dev/sdc5 shows crypt-luks.
[12:21] <ledeni> dutchuss2016: by the way how old system is that you try to install ubuntu 18.04 and configuration ?
[12:22] <dutchuss2016> 2 years custom build
[12:22] <ledeni> dutchuss2016: ok
[12:25] <dutchuss2016> i can give you an image of my exact specs if you wish
[12:25] <ledeni> dutchuss2016: thanks no
[12:26] <dutchuss2016> well knowing my specs my find the root of the probelm
[12:28] <ledeni> dutchuss2016: if you mean list of hardware then ok but if you want just pic of hardware then no
[12:29] <dutchuss2016> lol no a ss of hwmonitor
[12:30] <tomreyn> bug 1779817 discusses issues with rtl8168/8169 on 18.04, also mentioning the erro message we've seen on dutchuss2016 's screen shot of the installer dvd booting (or failing to do so) https://i.imgur.com/eG2oEXW.jpg
[12:30] <tomreyn> the bug is specifically about return from suspend, though, but this suggests acpi is involved.
[12:31] <dutchuss2016> https://imgur.com/tu9yn8J heres my specs ss
[12:32] <dutchuss2016> oh the only thing hwmonitor doesent show in that ss is 24 gb of ram in a 2x4 and 2x8 array
[12:33] <tomreyn> 24 gb ram with a 2012 cpu? :-/
[12:35] <tomreyn> dutchuss2016: i suggest you make sure you have the latest bios installed before you try to install ubuntu, replacing windows.
[12:37] <tomreyn> this may overcome those acpi issues, if any (i haven't seen any screenshot indicating acpi issues specifically)
[12:38] <tomreyn> since it's an nvidia graphics card, !nomodeset may also be needed.
[12:41] <petro> 18.04 always crashes and freezes
[12:41] <tomreyn> petro: no, it doesn't.
[12:42] <petro> received a crash report as update manager crashed....the gui graphic is just spinning repeatedly...ubuntu 18.04 is a joke
[12:42] <petro> tomreyn, YES, IT DOES!
[12:42] <Logico> no, it doesns't :)
[12:42] <tomreyn> petro: maybe it does on your computer and its current installation of it.
[12:42] <tomreyn> but not in the general way you put it initially
[12:42] <ledeni> dutchuss2016: make sure you have the latest bios installed before you try to install ubuntu like tomreyn said
[12:43] <petro> 'the software updater has closed unexpectedly' etc.
[12:44] <ryzokuken> hey all!
[12:44] <petro> dutchuss2016, Ubuntu 18.04? prepared for countless crashes and freezes
[12:44] <petro> be*
[12:45] <petro> ryzokuken, hey... has ubuntu 18.04 froze on you, yet? :)
[12:45] <petro> I have firefox feezes every day :)
[12:45] <ryzokuken> petro: hopefully not :P
[12:46] <ryzokuken> I was planning to install Ubuntu back after so many days.
[12:46] <ryzokuken> I remember using 16.04 and it was pretty straightforward to get optimus running.
[12:46] <petro> Oh?  If I was starting fresh, I'd probably give Debian or Fedora a try
[12:46] <petro> devs for Ubuntu don't care any more....
[12:46] <ryzokuken> I tried ubuntu 18.04 "a little", and it didn't work well.
[12:47] <ryzokuken> predmijat: right now, all I want is for optimus to either work out of the box or an easy way to make it work
[12:47] <petro> and fascists on the Ubuntu forums will delete your account ...I guess they are told to
[12:47] <ryzokuken> I used to be `ubuntu-drivers devices` and done.
[12:47] <jeremy31> petro That is not true, I am a forums moderator
[12:48] <Hamilton>  I sudo apt autoremove ed and it uninstalled ~300MB os-files
[12:48] <Hamilton> Is it normal?
[12:48] <sgibbs> I use 18.04.1 and it works great for me. Not a single freeze or crash
[12:48] <dutchuss2016> just an fyi this is a gaming rig im switching to linux because steam now finally is supporting wine nativly in their linux client as of 4 days ago
[12:48] <ryzokuken> I loved Ubuntu back in the day, want to know if it is still the best for optimus.
[12:48] <tomreyn> Hamilton: what are "os-files"?
[12:48] <dutchuss2016> and i cant stand how much of a resource hog windows is
[12:49] <ryzokuken> dutchuss2016: proton?
[12:49] <Logico> I never had a single crash while using any version of Ubuntu
[12:49] <dutchuss2016> proton?
[12:49] <Hamilton> tomreyn, They seemed important. I don't remember.
[12:49] <ryzokuken> dutchuss2016: that's what they call it
[12:49] <dutchuss2016> https://www.engadget.com/2018/08/22/steam-play-linux-windows-games-compatible/
[12:49] <ryzokuken> anyway, people, please.
[12:50] <ryzokuken> how hard is it now to make optimus work?
[12:50] <ryzokuken> why isn't it working OOTB?
[12:50] <petro> dutchuss2016, do you game in ubuntu?
[12:50] <ryzokuken> is it something specific to Xubuntu and will get fixed when I try, say, GNOME3?
[12:50] <petro> ubuntu crashes too often for me to game :(
[12:50] <petro> I'd have to switch to windows
[12:51] <dutchuss2016> not untill now too difficult with all of my games being steam windows games (minus a few notible titles like factorio)
[12:51] <tomreyn> Hamilton: well, it could be normal. but without details it's hard to tell.
[12:51] <petro> ryzokuken, laptop?
[12:51] <petro> maybe that's why it doesnt' crash for you...you're using a laptop
[12:51] <ryzokuken> yes.
[12:51] <tomreyn> Hamilton: if you want to examine this more closely, logs are at /var/log/apt/term.log
[12:52] <Hamilton> ok thanks. It happened two times. I aksed becuase I don't remember installing them as they sounded weird
[12:53] <petro> I think it works better with an nvidia card?
[12:53] <dutchuss2016> @Bios says i have the latest bios version F2
[12:53] <dutchuss2016> so
[12:54] <tomreyn> petro: ubuntu doesn't always work well out of the box with every combination of hardware and firmware. i.e. there are a couple such combinations, one of which you seem to have there, where it doesn't work well. especially those where only proprietary drivers and NDA restricted documentation are made available by the chipset producing companies.
[12:54] <dutchuss2016> can we like get back to my ubuntu problem and not be assuming that i dont know how to build and update a computer (which i do know how to do i do it for a living)
[12:54] <tomreyn> dutchuss2016: since we dont know which mianboard you have there, this bios version string doesn't help us.
[12:56] <dutchuss2016> https://pasteboard.co/HAXzOnx.png
[12:58] <tomreyn> dutchuss2016: looks like version F2 is the latest for this board https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/GA-78LMT-USB3-rev-60#support-dl-bios
[12:59] <dutchuss2016> yea which i have
[13:01] <tomreyn> yes, looks like it.
[13:02] <dutchuss2016> so since my bios checks out and ubunto still seems to hate me any other ideas
[13:03] <tomreyn> you could still do what i suggested an hour ago, get a screenshot of the boot screen after pressing escape.
[13:04] <dutchuss2016> doesent come up with text pressing any key as soon as m screen turns puke purple brings up the ubuntu installers language selection
[13:04] <tomreyn> you could also try booting with acpi=off and nomodeset
[13:04] <dutchuss2016> i obviously slect engrish
[13:04] <tomreyn> that's after language selection
[13:05] <tomreyn> press escape after language selection
[13:05] <dutchuss2016> then it asks me what i want to do and shows options on the f2 f3 f4 f5 and f6 keys
[13:05] <dutchuss2016> pressing f6 gives me the option to enable ACPI=off
[13:05] <tomreyn> select acpi=off from, i think f6, menu
[13:06] <dutchuss2016> then i tell it after enabling that to try ubuntu before installing (because i dont wanna brick my only working os)
[13:06] <dutchuss2016> then you get the 3 sses i sent about an hour and a half ago
[13:06] <dutchuss2016> then black screen and halt
[13:07] <tomreyn> then you need nomodeset, too
[13:07] <tomreyn> !nomodeset
[13:07] <tomreyn> and i dont like your passive aggressiveness, so i'll stop here
[13:07] <dutchuss2016> could my nvidia card be causing that
[13:08] <dutchuss2016> i dont think my bord has onboard but i could try it
[13:10] <taylan> how can I make slapd only listen on localhost?
[13:12] <akira> hello. okay i have stupid problem.
[13:12] <akira> ts@hikaru:~/ts$ ./ts3server
[13:12] <akira> -su: ./ts3server: No such file or directory
[13:12] <akira> ts@hikaru:~/ts$ ls ./ts3*
[13:12] <akira> ./ts3server  ./ts3server_minimal_runscript.sh  ./ts3server.sqlitedb  ./ts3server_startscript.sh
[13:12] <akira> ?
[13:14] <tomreyn> !pastebin | akira
[13:21] <tomreyn> taylan: SLAPD_SERVICES option in /etc/default/slapd
[13:21] <taylan> tomreyn: thanks!
[13:22] <guiverc> akira, is it executable?  (`stat ts3server` then maybe chmod +x ts3..`) and what type file is it?  (`file ts3server`)...
[13:28] <Ridley5> hi all
[13:28] <Ridley5>  hello blackflow
[13:28] <blackflow> o/
[13:31] <Ridley5> blackflow:  sorry for yesterday, i have done the manipulation : ip addr show this is the pastbin: https://pastebin.com/g89JG2rg
[13:32] <Elliria> Hey there, if I want to back up Getting Things GNOME! would I just back up the ~/.local/share/gtg/ directory or should I also back up the ~/.config/gtg/ directory?
[13:32] <Ridley5> im connected to the first Wifi adapter (Zydas) ans the second one i want to use it like a hotspot
[13:32] <Ridley5> i see the hotspot with my phone but no internet
[13:33] <blackflow> Ridley5: look into this, especially decide whether you want to bridge or NAT:  https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/software_access_point#Network_configuration
[13:34] <blackflow> Ridley5: unfortunately I don't know if NetworkManager does all that by itself, if it's configurable through the UI, or if you have to dig into config files and set up hostapd.
[13:34] <blackflow> at any rate, hostapd for wifi hotspot (your device _must_ support AP, not all do), network config (bridge or NAT).
[13:34] <Ridley5> i wanna read that, thak you blackflow :)
[13:34] <Ridley5> *thank
[13:35] <jeremy31> Ridley5 Some phones may not see ad-hoc wifi networks
[13:36] <Ridley5> i see it with my S7 jeremy31 but i cant access internet
[13:36] <jeremy31> Ridley5 Ubuntu set for IPv4 shared?
[13:36] <Ridley5> yes that is
[13:37] <ledeni> Ridley5: if you using ubuntu 18.04 use 'nm-connecton-editor'
[13:38] <jeremy31> It looks like only one network device connected to the internet in your pastebin
[13:39] <Ridley5> yes the second adapter is used like as hotspot, but not getting internet from the first one
[13:40] <jeremy31> Ridley5 Might need something like https://github.com/oblique/create_ap
[13:41] <Ridley5> i read that.. thank you
[13:42] <jeremy31> Ridley5 I used it before with a single wifi adapter to act similar to a hotspot and I could connect with my Android phone, it would be even faster using 2 wifi cards
[13:43] <Ridley5> it look nice interesting jeremy31 :) im installig it
[13:46] <taylan> can someone help me troubleshoot my mail server?  I tried to configure postfix and courier with ldap, but thunderbird can't connect to a user I defined in ldap...  no idea what debugging tools are available to pinpoint the problem.  they are listening on 465 and 993 on all interfaces and I can open a TCP connection to these ports from the computer with thunderbird on it.
[13:55] <taylan> nvm going to #ubuntu-server
[14:17] <Tobbi> Is there a good github gui for beginners in Ubuntu?
[14:17] <ppf> what's a github gui
[14:22] <Tobbi> ppf: An easy interface for beginners so that they can commit files, similar to https://desktop.github.com/
[14:23] <ppf> electron *shudders*
[14:23] <ppf> but sorry, i don't know of such a thin
[14:23] <ppf> g
[14:24] <RonaldsMazitis> Sven_vB: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/zCvgj8FbHj/
[14:24] <RonaldsMazitis> Sven_vB: took like a day for my mouse to not work again
[14:25] <ioria> Tobbi, you mean  git-gui ?
[14:25] <ioria> !info git-gui
[14:25] <Tobbi> Hm, maybe.
[14:26] <Tobbi> If that allows to commit and push and all that :P
[14:26] <Tobbi> Actually...
[14:26] <ppf> Tobbi: https://git-scm.com/download/gui/linux
[14:26] <Tobbi> !info supertux
[14:26] <Tobbi> yay, cool.
[14:27] <Sven_vB> RonaldsMazitis, do you know at which time in the log the mouse failed? btw you can add wall time by inserting the "ts" program from package moreutils.
[14:27] <the-noob> hi, after upgrading to 18.04 I've lost my GUI (kde)
[14:28] <the-noob> trying to install it again  (apt-get install kubuntu-desktop) and getting
[14:28] <RonaldsMazitis> Sven_vB: no I don't.
[14:28] <the-noob> a lot of unmet dependencies
[14:28] <Sven_vB> RonaldsMazitis, do you know the wall time of when your mouse stopped?
[14:29] <Sven_vB> and convert it to UTC or a unix timestamp if possible :)
[14:29] <RonaldsMazitis> I gave You the log
[14:29] <Sven_vB> yeah, I can see the mouse being added 86583 seconds after last boot
[14:30] <Sven_vB> it wasn't removed since then
[14:30] <Sven_vB> does it still show up in xinput --list?
[14:30] <Sven_vB> you can check the (unix) time of when your computer last booted with: grep btime /proc/stat
[14:31] <RonaldsMazitis> xinput --list shows mouse
[14:31] <RonaldsMazitis> btime 1535202746
[14:32] <Sven_vB> nice! what's your mouse's ID in xinput --list?
[14:34] <Sven_vB> try whether you can see any mouse activity with (ID instead of 0): xinput --test 0
[14:34] <Sven_vB> it should report motion as well as buttons
[14:34] <RonaldsMazitis> 10
[14:35] <RonaldsMazitis> no activity
[14:35] <Sven_vB> even though you moved it, I assume. =)
[14:35] <RonaldsMazitis> the light is on (on mouse)
[14:36] <Sven_vB> that probably only means it has power. doesn't say anything about whether the data cabels are ok.
[14:37] <RonaldsMazitis> when I restart, it works
[14:37] <Sven_vB> does your syslog say anything relevant about input/input44?
[14:38] <Sven_vB> yeah right a cable problem shouldn't reliably be fixed by reboot.
[14:46] <Sven_vB> I translated the timestamps: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/hkbr2wgNmC/
[14:47] <Sven_vB> so at 13:15:29 the mouse was added, about 2 min later the power supply had some kind of change. might that be related?
[14:49] <RonaldsMazitis> I woke up at atleast 15
[14:49] <Sven_vB> !time
[14:50] <Sven_vB> !utcnow
[14:50] <RonaldsMazitis> 17.50
[14:50] <Sven_vB> oh ok then you're at UTC+3
[14:51] <Sven_vB> it's 14:50 UTC now
[14:51] <Sven_vB> I'll translate the times to that :)
[14:55] <Sven_vB> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/VhhpjGpmZK/
[14:56] <Sven_vB> so the mouse appeared at 16:15:29, power supply changed at 16:17:57. I've no idea though, how that would relate as long as the mouse is still visible in xinput.
[14:58] <Sven_vB> can you see any anomalous syslog messages around these times?
[15:04] <RonaldsMazitis> I don't have systlog
[15:04] <RonaldsMazitis> syslog*
[15:04] <RonaldsMazitis> for some reason I don't have syslog.log only syslog1 etc
[15:06] <Sven_vB> there should be no .log on syslog. it's full name is /var/log/syslog
[15:06] <Sven_vB> the ones with .(number) are the older ones
[15:07] <Sven_vB> maybe you should try and fix the syslog issue first. the syslog is quite central for any other debugging.
[15:09] <RonaldsMazitis> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/B3nJ82MJsM/
[15:09] <jamie1> hey, I'm curious if anyone has any solution for running ubuntu on a ryzen 2000 series with a b350 board
[15:10] <jamie1> from what I've found on Google no one is having much luck even booting
[15:10] <wad> Hey folks. Upgrading my web server from 16.04 to 18.04. I've got several issues so far, but the first one is: "This version of the GNU libc requires kernel version 3.2 or later.  Please upgrade your kernel before installing glibc."
[15:10] <RonaldsMazitis> Sven_vB: thats about it, I filtered some stuff out
[15:11] <wad> I tried googling it, but didn't see much useful stuff. Should I just google "upgrade ubuntu kernel" and do that stuff? Seems like the kernel should have upgraded itself while I did the release upgrade....
[15:12] <wad> Currently it's "Linux 2.6.32-042stab127.2"
[15:13] <gogeta> 2.6
[15:13] <gogeta> did i rear that correctly
[15:13] <gogeta> read
[15:14] <wad> Yes...
[15:14] <wad> Is this an ancient kernel?
[15:14] <gogeta> 2.6
[15:15] <gogeta> that cant be correct
[15:15] <wad> This is a virtual machine, running in the cloud. Does that make a difference? I've had it for a long time.
[15:15] <gogeta> a relly long time
[15:15] <jeremy31> wad in terminal, the command uname -a
[15:16] <gogeta> it has to be running 10 serise ubuntu
[15:16] <jamie1> or even as old as 2003
[15:16] <wad> Linux vps2 2.6.32-042stab127.2 #1 SMP Thu Jan 4 16:41:44 MSK 2018 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[15:16] <gogeta> i means 4 serise
[15:16] <ducasse> wad: you're probably running on openvz, talk to your provider about upgrading
[15:16] <Sven_vB> RonaldsMazitis, ok, that looks perfectly normal. no idea why your mouse would stop working. does it happen with other USB pointer devices as well?
[15:17] <wad> Ah, okay....
[15:17] <gogeta> thats insanly out of date
[15:17] <jeremy31> wad that isn't an Ubuntu kernel
[15:17] <ducasse> wad: you can't change the kernel
[15:17] <wad> Oh, okay.
[15:17] <gogeta> even wad
[15:17] <jamie1> that was dropped in 2016, so it's not too horrible
[15:18] <RonaldsMazitis> Sven_vB: I can connect phone to pc
[15:18] <wad> Okay, I was starting to feel ashamed. But hey, at least I'm working on upgrading right now!
[15:18] <gogeta> RonaldsMazitis, shouldent be a problem
[15:18] <RonaldsMazitis> but the mouse still would not work
[15:19] <gogeta> mouse not working
[15:19] <gogeta> thats a rareone
[15:20] <jamie1> was you can get the main line Kernal at http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/
[15:20] <jamie1> wad ^
[15:21]  * wad reads up
[15:21] <ducasse> jamie1: wad: no, he can't upgrade the kernel
[15:21] <jamie1> why not?
[15:21] <wad> Maybe because it's a VM?
[15:22] <ducasse> jamie1: openvz uses a kernel provided by the host
[15:22] <wad> I'm logging into my cloud provider now, maybe they have a thingy to upgrade?
[15:22] <jamie1> you have to ask your cloud provider at that point
[15:23] <jamie1> some will allow you to do it yourself but unless you pay for the whole server space they usually don't
[15:23] <ducasse> wad: or switch to a provider where you control the kernel yourself
[15:23] <wad> Okay.
[15:23] <wad> I might just move it over to AWS.
[15:23] <jamie1> paperspace is what I use
[15:25] <Sven_vB> RonaldsMazitis, no idea then. let's hope someone else can help.
[15:50] <adamretter> I just ran a dist-upgrade on Ubuntu 18.04.1 LTS (4.15.0-23-generic) and now when it tries to boot 4.15.0-33-generic, I get the error - VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0). I can still manually choose the 4.15.0-23-generic option from the Grub menu and boot that OK. Any ideas why the latest kernel doesn't boot the fs, I remember seeing something about chain-loading Grub2. Maybe that broke it?
[15:53] <ioria> adamretter, run df -h and see if root is full
[15:54] <ioria> adamretter, or /boot
[15:55] <adamretter> ioria: I have 78GB free on /. I don't have a seperate /boot partition
[15:56] <ioria> adamretter,  dpkg -l | grep linux-image | pastebinit
[15:57] <adamretter> ioria: https://pastebin.com/D8WYi0S9
[15:59] <ioria> adamretter,  can you run sudo update-grub without errors ?
[15:59] <adamretter> ioria: I am a bit nervous to try, as it seems that that was what caused this issue - when it wanted to chainloan grub v2 from grub v1 for the new kernel
[16:00] <ioria> adamretter,  i see
[16:01] <adamretter> ioria: is there a way I can examine the Grub entries to see what is different with the latest kernel version?
[16:02] <EriC^^> adamretter: cat /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[16:06] <adamretter> EriC^^: thanks
[16:06] <adamretter> ioria: is there a way to safely do this, so that if update-grub causes an error I don't hose my system?
[16:08] <ioria> adamretter,  sy, was afk,  i don't think you can simulate nupdate-grub , but not sure
[16:10] <ioria> adamretter,  check the vmlinuz link in /
[16:11] <adamretter> ioria:
[16:11] <adamretter> lrwxrwxrwx   1 root  root     30 Aug 26 16:31 vmlinuz -> boot/vmlinuz-4.15.0-33-generic
[16:11] <adamretter> lrwxrwxrwx   1 root  root     30 Aug 26 16:31 vmlinuz.old -> boot/vmlinuz-4.15.0-23-generic
[16:11] <adamretter> ioria: I feel it has to be something to do with the grub1 to grub2 chainloading that was installed
[16:12] <ioria> adamretter, why did you use both ?
[16:13] <Menzador> (if update-grub causes an error, your system doesn't get hosed unless it maliciously writes data someplace it shouldn't, and you can use any GRUB-laden environment to launch it with a few extra commands)
[16:13] <ioria> adamretter, dpkg -l | grep grub | pastebinit
[16:13] <adamretter> ioria: I didn't. apt-get dist-upgrade told me it was upgrading to Grub2 and that it was best to do it as two parts, so it would chainload Grub2 from Grub1 and after rebooting, if that worked, that I should run `sudo upgrade-from-grub-legacy` to remove Grub 1. This is standard Ubuntu 18 stuff - nothing special I have done
[16:14] <ioria> adamretter, dpkg -l | grep grub | pastebinit    and are you on bionic or xenial ?
[16:14] <EriC^^> adamretter: you could copy grub.cfg and then copy it back if you need to
[16:14] <adamretter> ioria: https://pastebin.com/M2m0041b
[16:14] <EriC^^> sudo cp /boot/grub/grub.cfg{,.backup}
[16:15] <ioria> EriC^^, are you in ?
[16:15] <adamretter> ioria: I am on Ubuntu 18.04.1 LTS
[16:15] <EriC^^> ioria: yeah following
[16:16] <adamretter> EriC^^: okay I made backup of grub.cfg
[16:16] <ioria> adamretter, [ -d /sys/firmware/efi ] && echo UEFI || echo BIOS
[16:16] <adamretter> ioria: BIOS
[16:16] <ioria> yeah
[16:16] <EriC^^> adamretter: can you upload the grub.cfg maybe we can spot something in the newer kernel entry
[16:17] <adamretter> EriC^^: sure one sec
[16:17] <hethkar> any good guides for automating installation of ubuntu vms in KVM using preseed configs ?
[16:17] <adamretter> EriC^^: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/twh47YkjrR/
[16:18] <adamretter> @hethkar not quite sure how pre-seeded they are - but I have had good success with uvt-kvm
[16:18] <EriC^^> adamretter: looks fine, i think it must be a kernel specific issue or something
[16:19] <adamretter> hethkar: the cloud-init stuff lets me configure packages, network settings etc etc
[16:19] <EriC^^> adamretter: maybe try "sudo update-initramfs -u -k all && sudo update-grub" and see if it helps at all
[16:19] <EriC^^> !info linux-generic
[16:19] <adamretter> EriC^^: Okay. Is there anyway that might make this worse?
[16:19] <EriC^^> adamretter: nah
[16:19] <ioria> adamretter, that ^
[16:20] <hethkar> adamretter: basically i am just trying to make automated installation setups of ubuntu vms using KVM
[16:20] <adamretter> hethkar: okay so that is what I did with uvt-kvm and the coud-init config stuff
[16:21] <ioria> adamretter, you probably upgraded from xenial ...
[16:21] <hethkar> adamretter: oh okay
[16:22] <ioria> adamretter, 'cause the grub pkg is no longer present in bionic
[16:22] <adamretter> hethkar: not all applies to you, but see - https://github.com/adamretter/soyoustart/blob/master/INSTALL-vm.md and that script I use is here: https://github.com/adamretter/soyoustart/blob/master/create-uvt-kvm.sh
[16:22] <adamretter> ioria: I upgraded from Xenial, but sometime ago. I have been on Bioninc happily for a while until today's update attempt
[16:22] <ioria> i see
[16:23] <adamretter> EriC^^: so it is like 100% safe for me to run - sudo update-initramfs -u -k all && sudo update-grub
[16:24] <EriC^^> adamretter: yeah no worries
[16:25] <EriC^^> adamretter: you could run update-initramfs -u -k 4.......0-33-generic instead of all
[16:25] <EriC^^> so it doesnt touch the 23 one at all
[16:25] <hethkar> adamretter: cloud images are just same as the regular iso's ?
[16:25] <adamretter> EriC^^: okay sounds good
[16:26] <ioria> adamretter, does your mainboard support uefi ?
[16:27] <adamretter> ioria: no. this is a KVM vm
[16:27] <adamretter> EriC^^: update-initramfs -u -k 4.15.0.33.35-generic
[16:27] <adamretter> update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-4.15.0.33.35-generic
[16:27] <adamretter> WARNING: missing /lib/modules/4.15.0.33.35-generic
[16:27] <adamretter> Ensure all necessary drivers are built into the linux image!
[16:27] <adamretter> depmod: ERROR: could not open directory /lib/modules/4.15.0.33.35-generic: No such file or directory
[16:27] <ioria> ok
[16:28] <EriC^^> adamretter: interesting, seems some packages are missing for the new kernel
[16:28] <ioria> adamretter, sudo apt install -reinstall linux-generic
[16:28] <compdoc> easy to add uefi to kvm
[16:28] <ioria> adamretter, sudo apt install --reinstall linux-generic
[16:28] <leftist> i have a lenovo usb monitor that i am using with a gigabyte brix pro and it's a usb powered touchscreen. works with windows 10 (after finding the correct drivers), they provided ubuntu drivers but i have a problem compiling. here is a pastebin
[16:29] <leftist> https://pastebin.com/brZj3FnN
[16:29] <EriC^^> !info linux-modules-extra-4.15.0-33
[16:29] <EriC^^> adamretter: install the above package
[16:29] <adamretter> EriC^^: after running the reinstall. If I run update-initramfs I still get the error - missing /lib/modules/4.15.0.33.35-generic
[16:30] <EriC^^> not sure if you're also supposed to have the linux-modules-4.15.0-33 package as well
[16:31] <adamretter> EriC^^: should I try ignoring the messages about the modules, and continue by running  sudo update-grub?
[16:31] <EriC^^> adamretter: no
[16:31] <adamretter> EriC^^: okay
[16:31] <ioria> adamretter, dpkg -l | grep linux-modules | pastebinit
[16:31] <EriC^^> did you try installing the modules package?
[16:32] <adamretter> ioria: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/hFWbbFtfh7/
[16:32] <ioria> adamretter, yep, installed
[16:32] <EriC^^> interesting
[16:33] <EriC^^> adamretter: type "dpkg -S /lib/modules/4.15.0.33.35-generic"
[16:33] <adamretter> EriC^^: dpkg-query: no path found matching pattern /lib/modules/4.15.0.33.35-generic
[16:34] <ioria> there is a dash not a point : 4.15.0-33
[16:35] <EriC^^> ioria: that's what update-initramfs was complaining about
[16:35] <EriC^^> adamretter: "dpkg -L linux-modules-extra-4.15.0-33-generic | pastebinit"
[16:38] <adamretter> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/RYZvx988bz/plain/
[16:38] <adamretter> EriC^^: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/RYZvx988bz/plain/
[16:41] <EriC^^> adamretter: i wonder why it's saying 0.33.35-generic is missing
[16:41] <EriC^^> looks like it's looking for the wrong file naming
[16:42] <adamretter> EriC^^: It also seemed like the available modules were 0.33.36 whilst the kernel was 0.33.35
[16:42] <EriC^^> adamretter: the actual kernel package is 0.33.36
[16:43] <EriC^^> adamretter: i wonder where update-initramfs gets that info from
[16:44] <Angelblack> can i make ubuntu battery efficient...battery goes down quick compared to windows
[16:44] <EriC^^> adamretter: are you sure you gave it the right version number when you used the -k option?
[16:44] <lotuspsychje> !info laptop-mode-tools | Angelblack
[16:44] <Angelblack> ok ubotto
[16:46] <Angelblack> i have to install it
[16:47] <Angelblack> ^ ubotto
[16:47] <lotuspsychje> Angelblack: yes, thats the idea
[16:47] <Angelblack> k thanks lotuspsychje
[16:49] <Angelblack> wasnt found in ubuntu software store...is it 3 rd party
[16:49] <adamretter> EriC^^: as pasted - I used the command `update-initramfs -u -k 4.15.0.33.35-generic`
[16:49] <adamretter> EriC^^: perhaps that is not correct?
[16:49] <ioria> adamretter, ls -l /var/lib/initramfs-tools
[16:50] <lotuspsychje> Angelblack: read the link from ubottu, its in universe
[16:50] <ntd> update-initramfs -u -k 4.15.0.33
[16:50] <ntd> no
[16:50] <EriC^^> adamretter: yeah that's incorrect
[16:50] <EriC^^> adamretter: sudo update-initramfs -u -k 4.15.0-33-generic
[16:50] <ntd> update-initramfs -u -k 4.15.0-33
[16:50] <adamretter> EriC^^: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/3jg8XnszjM/
[16:51] <ioria> adamretter, 4.......0-33-generic ???
[16:51] <ioria> adamretter, also this : 4.15.0.33.35-generic
[16:51] <Angelblack> i have latest ubuntu
[16:52] <adamretter> ioria: that was what EriC^^asked me to run above somewhere - I suspect now maybe I was menat to substitute the "...."
[16:52] <transhumanist> hi how do I override the gcc version for a bash session?
[16:52] <ioria> adamretter, i thik those two are not right
[16:52] <adamretter> EriC^^: okay that time update-initramfs ran without errors
[16:52] <EriC^^> adamretter: great, sudo update-grub
[16:53] <adamretter> ioria: do I need to cleanup the bad entries in /var/lib/initramfs-tools ?
[16:53] <ioria> adamretter, i think so.... later
[16:53] <adamretter> ioria: okay on with the grub stuff then...
[16:54] <ioria> adamretter, did you run the update-grub ?
[16:55] <adamretter> EriC^^: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/YpC8XDThnH/
[16:55] <adamretter> ioria: yes ^^
[16:55] <ioria> adamretter, i'd say reboot ? EriC^^ ?
[16:55] <Angelblack> is tlp installed in ubuntu 18.04.1
[16:55] <adamretter> EriC^^: so I should now pray to the gods and reboot?
[16:56] <EriC^^> adamretter: ioria yeah give it a shot
[16:56] <Angelblack> google says tlp has to be removed
[16:58] <Lady_Aly> hi there I need some help with ubuntu 18.04.  The OS keeps freezing at random requiring me to do a hard boot to reset it
[16:58] <Lady_Aly> It usually occurs when I'm trying to watch a movie (mp4) or streaming off youtube.
[16:58] <transhumanist> never mind I am better off doing it on the make command line level according to an article I found
[16:58] <Lady_Aly> Can anyone help?
[16:58] <lotuspsychje> Lady_Aly: system up to date to latest?
 yes it is, but I can run an update and upgrade now
[17:00] <adamretter> EriC^^: ioria: okay no change. Still can't boot 4.15.0-33. So I have booted back into 4.15.0-23
[17:00] <ioria> adamretter,  ls /boot | pastebinit
[17:00] <EriC^^> adamretter: ah, must be some kernel issue, i'd wait for the next kernel release see how it goes
[17:00] <EriC^^> set grub to boot 23 for now
[17:01] <adamretter> ioria: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/DxBWnRF3j3/
[17:02] <markpie> Hello, I wonder how do I display UTF8 ANSI characters on Linux console? All I get is diamonds.
[17:02] <ioria> adamretter,  may i ask you about these ? initrd.img-4.......0-33-generic   and initrd.img-4.15.0.33.35-generic
[17:02] <Lady_Aly> lotuspsychje: I just re-ran the update from terminal
[17:02] <Angelblack> lotuspsychje its telling 18.4 mb of downloads ....http://www.webupd8.org/2014/01/install-laptop-mode-tools-164-with.html....pls help
[17:03] <Lady_Aly> there were no error msgs
[17:03] <adamretter> ioria: they were created by me using wrong arguments to update-initramfs. Any idea how I remove them?
[17:03] <Angelblack> and do i have to remove tlp or associated pakcages
[17:04] <ioria> adamretter,  ah
[17:04] <adamretter> EriC^^: Hmm. Is that common? It strikes me as odd that Ubuntu would release a kernel to an LTS version which doesn't work on their KVM?
[17:04] <ioria> adamretter,  so they cannot be the issue
[17:07] <ioria> adamretter,  try to install --reinstall linux-image-virtual
[17:07] <EriC^^> adamretter: maybe some hdd issue? it's complaining about the drive not being found
[17:08] <EriC^^> nevermind
[17:08] <tomreyn> Lady_Aly: do you have any graphics or other serious looking error messages in "dmesg | tail -n200" ?
[17:09] <tomreyn> Lady_Aly: you could post all of the kernel log (dmesg) using: dmesg | pastebinit
[17:09] <adamretter> ioria: that didn't clean anything up unfortunately
[17:09] <ioria> adamretter,  it wasn't about the cleaning :þ
[17:10] <adamretter> ioria: oh? you want me to reboot and try the newer kernel?
[17:11] <ioria> adamretter,  i don't want to waste your time
[17:11] <adamretter> ioria: not at all, I appreciate the help
[17:18] <adamretter> ioria: nope, didn't help I am afraid
[17:19] <Lady_Aly> tomreyn:  ok here is the pastebin  http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/hTwtkKYrcn/
[17:23] <transhumanist> so, it is still a little early to be sure but I think I managed to get a GeForce 9800 nvidia card to run on ubuntu 15.04 with CUDA support!
[17:24] <transhumanist> CUDA 6.5 that is
[17:24] <ioria> adamretter,  you might try on #kvm ?
[17:25] <adamretter> ioria: okay thanks. Any idea how to clean up those invalid entries?
[17:25] <transhumanist> it only took like 6 weeks and about 3000 tries to get it running. Seems I am on new territory getting it running, everything I read noone has had any luck
[17:25] <ioria> adamretter,  sudo rm /pat   should be enough
[17:26] <ioria> adamretter,  both in /boot and in /var/lib/initramfs-tools
[17:28] <ZaZaQR> hello
[17:28] <compdoc> adamretter, I run 14.04, 16.04, and 18.04 in kvm. running 24/7 in business environs. its not a kvm issue. if you arent using virt-manager, then its likely your error
[17:29] <tomreyn> Lady_Aly: there's this, which is about your intel graphics processing unit (gpu), i915 driver: [drm:intel_pipe_update_end [i915]] *ERROR* Atomic update failure on pipe A (start=77880 end=77881) time 10 us, min 763, max 767, scanline start 756, end 768
[17:30] <littlejohnny> Hi, if i have an entry in fstab for a drive like this: UUID=XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX /media/Drive ntfs defaults,nls=utf8,umask=077,uid=1000,gid=1000,windows_names 0 0,    but i remove the drive. Will the PC not boot anymore?
[17:34] <ducasse> littlejohnny: add 'nofail' to the options, or boot will hang
[17:34] <Lady_Aly> tomreyn:  Would that be causing the freezing?   And how would I go about fixing?
[17:35] <littlejohnny> ducasse, so have to press 'e' at the grub options and add 'nofail' ?
[17:37] <tomreyn> Lady_Aly: i'm still searching. on a side note, there is a newer bios available for this system which apparently fixes an intel bug (it refers to an undisclosed intel technical advisory): https://pcsupport.lenovo.com/de/en/products/LAPTOPS-AND-NETBOOKS/FLEX-SERIES/FLEX-2-15-NOTEBOOK-LENOVO/downloads/DS101193
[17:40] <compdoc> Lady_Aly, when streaming youre using power and having the video card do work. Its very common for power supplies to begin failing and they cause that problem, or the vid card could be overheating, and causing it
[17:40] <tomreyn> Lady_Aly: the firmware bug fix is actually a security fix discussed here https://www.kb.cert.org/vuls/id/976132
[17:41] <littlejohnny> ducasse, where exactly would the 'nofail' go ?
[17:42] <rander2> hello I'm here again, registred
[17:42] <lotuspsychje> rander2: welcome, this is the ubuntu support channel
[17:43] <rander2> how disable the lock screen after any time ?
[17:43] <Lady_Aly> tomreyn:  the link you provided is for windows...  I had to switch this pc to linux
[17:43] <rander2> I must relog too much time while I study
[17:43] <rander2> I study programming on book, and after I go to the laptop, but the screen is locked
[17:43] <lotuspsychje> rander2: disable lock screen?
[17:44] <ducasse> littlejohnny: add ',nofail' right after windows_names, for example
[17:44] <adamretter> compdoc: I dont' use virtmanager
[17:44] <rander2> lotuspsychje, yes , the screensaver lock the screen to login
[17:44] <adamretter> ioria: so you suggest just using `rm` to clean up those files?
[17:44] <tomreyn> Lady_Aly: do you use suspend, does this only happen after you used suspend?
[17:45] <Lady_Aly> compdoc:  ok I can understand that, but sometimes it happens when I'm not streaming.  Just doing something like playing a simple game like mahjongg (the one that comes with 18.04)
[17:45] <lotuspsychje> rander2: system settings/energy/set black screen on 'never'
[17:46] <Lady_Aly> but most often it happens when I'm trying to do a couple of things at once
[17:46] <rander2> ok I found, the default time was 5min, I changed it to 30min
[17:46] <rander2> thx all
[17:46] <Lady_Aly> I don't usually use suspend, unless it's been activated to run in the background
[17:47] <tomreyn> Lady_Aly: by suspend, i mean putting the laptop to sleep, such as by closing the lid.
[17:47] <rander2> !vnc
[17:48] <lotuspsychje> Angelblack: i gave you the package from the repos, why are you searching for tlp on webupd8?
[17:49] <lotuspsychje> rander2: be carefull with vnc, consider a more safer protocol for remote manage
[17:49] <littlejohnny> ducasse, do you mean inside fstab?  because its too late for that, pc wont boot, so im asking for what to put in grub to bypass it. would 'nofail' work if i put it inside grub?
[17:49] <littlejohnny> ducasse, when i press 'e' in grub on the 'Ubuntu' i dont see the entry there
[17:49] <ioria> adamretter,  i don't think there's another way
[17:50] <ducasse> littlejohnny: no, it needs to be in fstab
[17:50] <rander2> lotuspsychje, for example ? I have another pc more powerfull running debian, and I want have the desktop other ssh
[17:50] <ducasse> littlejohnny: boot in recovery mode, add it from there
[17:51] <rander2> it's in the same private lan
[17:51] <lotuspsychje> rander2: you want to ssh, or ssh X?
[17:51] <ioria> adamretter,  you can run  sudo dpkg --configure -a after, to check if it's all good
[17:51] <littlejohnny> ducasse, is there no other way i can bypass this failure without entering passwords in recovery ?
[17:51] <rander2> lotuspsychje, I have ssh , I want the graphic too
[17:52] <rander2> lotuspsychje, with ssh X is possible view the x server on my laptop ?
[17:53] <lotuspsychje> check the #openssh channel for more info on ssh mate
[17:53] <rander2> I have debian9 with xfce
[17:54] <lotuspsychje> rander2: we support ubuntu here, we also try to focus on issues related on the working of ubuntu
[17:54] <rander2> and I want have the desktop here
[17:54] <rander2> ok, excuse me
[17:54] <rander2> thx to all
[17:54] <lotuspsychje> rander2: or do you have trouble installing ssh on ubuntu?
[17:57] <tomreyn> Lady_Aly: this upstream bug report (since closed as invalid, probably because there were too many cooks involved) seems to discuss this error message on your intel haswell platform in detail https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=91883   - but i can't seem to find a workaround or fix there.
[17:58] <Lady_Aly> tomreyn:  Sometimes...  but most times Ive been shutting the pc down properly
[17:59] <ducasse> littlejohnny: you can boot a live usb, mount the root fs and edit it from there
[17:59] <Lady_Aly> unfortunately I've got to go for a little bit...  a friend needs help
[17:59] <littlejohnny> ducasse, after entering recovery and mounting root as rw, then editing fstab, it doesnt seem like it asks for root password.
[17:59] <tomreyn> Lady_Aly: when you got more time, try if you can reproduce it after a full power cycle (i.e. without having put the system to sleep)
[18:00] <tomreyn> ttyl
[18:01] <ducasse> littlejohnny: booting in recovery mode shouldn't ask for passwd
[18:02] <littlejohnny> ok perfect thanks
[18:03] <fengshaun> how can I completely prevent ubuntu from bothering me with update notifications?
[18:04] <fengshaun> I have disabled automatic updates, but it still shows all sorts of red flags about repos being out of date and such
[18:04] <lotuspsychje> fengshaun: software&updates disable the settings how you want it
[18:04] <fengshaun> and if I update the repos, it pokes with update notification
[18:04] <lotuspsychje> fengshaun: did you add external ppa's to your system?
[18:04] <fengshaun> no
[18:05] <fengshaun> I have already set the settings
[18:05] <fengshaun> to not automatically check for updates
[18:05] <troozers> Hi all, I've just installed Ubuntu 18.04 on a small generic laptop and all works fine apart from the touchpad is EXTREMELY jumpy.  xinput list shows the touchpad as "TIX5288:00 0911:5288 Touchpad".  Can anyone help?
[18:05] <fengshaun> doesn't seem to do anything at all
[18:05] <lotuspsychje> fengshaun: hastebin us sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade please
[18:06] <tomreyn> fengshaun: not installing security patches is a bad idea, unless this system isn't connected to a network. but apparently it has internet access. can you discuss why you need to disable installing security patches?
[18:06] <fengshaun> lotuspsychje, there are no third party repos or packages
[18:06] <fengshaun> tomreyn, I know what to do with updates, I need the notifications gone
[18:07] <lotuspsychje> fengshaun: the warning are there for a reason
[18:07] <fengshaun> someone else's reason
[18:07] <bolero> How to know if a package of ubuntu APT is in Universe or in Multiverse? (for example $ "apt-cache show mysql-server" gives in Section: database but not Universe/database)
[18:07] <lotuspsychje> troozers: is it touchpad speed sensitivity you want, or tap sensitivity?
[18:08] <tomreyn> fengshaun: the point is, personally i wont support you in setting this up unless you can explain whyx you need to do so, becuase doing otherwise would feel irresponsible.
[18:08] <troozers> it doesn't "seem" to be a sensitivity issue - it jumps all over the place and seems to click and highlight stuff all over the place.  I could be wrong and will be guided by your greater knowledge
[18:08] <lotuspsychje> !info mysql-server | bolero
[18:09] <fengshaun> anybody know how to disable ubuntu's update notifications and automatic updates? the UI doesn't have a switch
[18:10] <bolero> lotuspsychje, If it's in component main then it's libre software?
[18:10] <lotuspsychje> fengshaun: we already suggested a few things, no need for repeating
[18:10] <fengshaun> lotuspsychje, there were no suggestions, just that I shouldn't do what I want to do
[18:11] <tomreyn> bolero: my understanding is that the component apackage is in only states its support level, doesn't say whether or not it's free software.
[18:11] <lotuspsychje> fengshaun: to get you to the next step, more info is needed from you
[18:11] <fengshaun> I like to be in charge of my own system
[18:12] <fengshaun> anyway, I just need to know how, not why, I'd appreciate a response from someone who knows the *how*. thanks for your help
[18:12] <lotuspsychje> fengshaun: we never said you could not, but then explain why and hastebin the output?
[18:12] <php> Is there a channel specifically for bind9 (named) or can I ask here?
[18:13] <adamretter> EriC^^: okay I can't explain this. But updating the Host machine, and restarting it, now means that the KVM vm boots fine with 4.15.0-33
[18:13] <lotuspsychje> php: bind dns on 18.04?
[18:13] <adamretter> EriC^^: perhaps some microcode updates for the CPU inlight of all this Intel security vulns were needed?
[18:13] <php> Lemme double check the exact version
[18:13] <adamretter> ioria: thanks for all your help
[18:13] <adamretter> EriC^^: thanks also for all your help
[18:14] <ioria> adamretter,  you solved ... good
[18:14] <tomreyn> bolero: there is, however, a licensing related statement on the 'main' component at https://www.ubuntu.com/licensing
[18:14] <php> Woops
[18:14] <ioria> adamretter,  out of curiosity... the host is ?
[18:14] <adamretter> ioria: sure. It surprised me though, I guess KVM does not provide as much isolation from the host as I expected
[18:14] <tomreyn> bolero: it does, however, not state the facts correctly IMO.
[18:14] <ioria> adamretter,  and  the host is ?
[18:14] <php> Argh, I forgot I switched to CentOS with my dns server. I shall venture to that channel!
[18:14] <adamretter> ioria: the host is also Ubuntu 18.04.1 LTS on x86_64
[18:15] <ioria> adamretter,  ha,ok
[18:15] <lotuspsychje> php: good luck!
[18:16] <ioria> adamretter,  i took from granted that was Win
[18:16] <bolero> tomreyn, Where does it come the info given by the info command above?
[18:16] <fengshaun> found it, /etc/cron.daily/update-notifier-daemon
[18:17] <madLyfe> anyone fluent in samba lol? i have a share setup so i can access it on windows where ive mapped it as a drive and can access the share folder, but im not sure about the user settings? i figured i would need username/pass to open it. i cant write to it though.
[18:17] <lotuspsychje> fengshaun: thats not gonna solve an apt error..
[18:18] <fengshaun> there is no apt error
[18:18] <fengshaun> the problem is the notification
[18:18] <Ben64> you can turn off the notification in the update-manager settings....
[18:18] <adamretter> ioria: EriC^^: okay forget that. The KVM vm still won't boot 4.15.0-33. Sorry for the confusion - I logged into the wrong machine
[18:18] <lotuspsychje> fengshaun: you said there were red flags warnings?
[18:19] <fengshaun> Ben64, I tried, it still shows warnings on the top right :S
[18:19] <Ben64> what warnings
[18:20] <fengshaun> Ben64, that repos are outdated
[18:20] <Ben64> that's a different thing
[18:21] <lotuspsychje> !samba | madLyfe visit
[18:21] <lotuspsychje> madLyfe: #samba
[18:22] <fengshaun> well, there is too much stuff running by default, I'll just go through cron and systemd timers until I get the right thing
[18:23] <lotuspsychje> fengshaun: why are you ignoring the root of the problem, trying to disable warning that are there for a reason?
[18:24] <Ben64> yeah, much easier to fix the problem
[18:29] <oryois> in my machine i want to find a file but i dont know the name of file or location of it , how can i search by a word inside of this file ?
[18:30] <Ben64> would take forever to search inside of every file
[18:32] <troozers> Sorry, I got disconnected.  Anyone help with 18.04 and a very erratic touchpad.  It's not a sensitivity issue.  Seems to randomly click and moving around is very choppy
[18:36] <tomreyn> bolero: an IRC bot (ubottu) which retrieves this information from, i think, packages.ubuntu.com
[18:36] <lotuspsychje> troozers: are you sure its the touchpad and not a system lagging the mouse or so?
[18:37] <tomreyn> !ubottu | bolero
[18:39] <lotuspsychje> troozers: could you test with another mouse perhaps?
[18:40] <troozers> a usb mouse plugged is fine, it's just with the trackpad
[18:40] <bolero> thanks tomreyn !
[18:40] <lotuspsychje> troozers: ok, did you try system settings disable touchpad and enable again?
[18:41] <troozers> Yep, a fair few times
[18:43] <lotuspsychje> troozers: just for test, try unplug power adapter
[18:44] <troozers> ok, give me a few seconds...
[18:45] <troozers> unfortunately doesn't seem to make any difference
[18:45] <lotuspsychje> troozers: wich values does your: Synaptics Noise Cancellation (310):	28, 28
[18:45] <lotuspsychje>  give?
[18:46] <troozers> It doesn't seem to be a Synaptics, "xinput list" shows it as a "HTIX5288:00 0911:5288 Touchpad"
[18:47] <lotuspsychje> troozers: xinput --watch-props idnumberhere
[18:50] <troozers> https://pastebin.com/WYzDYe9P
[18:52] <lotuspsychje> troozers: hmm, not sure wich value scrambled there
[18:53] <wad> Hey, quick question: What are people using for web servers these days? I set up a bunch using Apache years and years ago, but when I upgraded my Ubuntu webserver last night, PHP was all kinds of broken with apache2.  So I'm redoing stuff. Should I stick with apache2? Or use nginx or something else?
[18:53] <troozers> lol, i don't know what that screen is showing me either
[18:53] <lotuspsychje> wad: have a look at the #httpd channel mate
[18:54] <wad> Okay, thanks!
[18:54] <lotuspsychje> troozers: that would be all your touchpads settings, but no clue wich value is non-default
[18:55] <troozers> I've not come across this touchpad before
[19:04] <lotuspsychje> troozers: try this mate: sudo apt install --reinstall xserver-xorg-input-all
[19:04] <Reiny> hello i need a bit of support, im on win10 build 180810 i try to use wsl and ubuntu 18.04, if i try to start it i only receive a blank terminal
[19:05] <lotuspsychje> !wsl | Reiny
[19:06] <Reiny> ty
[19:12] <troozers> unfortunately not helped much.  movement is still "choppy" and it seems to randomly click on stuff
[19:14] <Reiny> lotuspsychje: there is noone avaible.
[19:20] <ter6> Hello, you can use   ssh user@host "command-here"
[19:21] <ter6> to execute a command on the remote server, but what if the command you are using has a Y/N prompt, and requires user input (no flags)
[19:21] <githus> hi guys
[19:21] <ter6> hhow would you go about executing the above command, and sending a Y to the console
[19:21] <ter6> is this possible?
[19:21] <githus> guys i need some help, someone
[19:21] <githus> ?
[19:22] <kk4ewt> ter6,  you actually connect via ssh and run the commmand
[19:22] <ter6> kk4ewt, This should be automating in a bash script.
[19:22] <kk4ewt> so no it will not work that way
[19:22] <kk4ewt> too many things that can go wrong
[19:22] <SLegion> Hey guys, does anyone know the best way to redirect users in apache based on their hostname?
[19:22] <Reiny> i <3 it im getting 0 support today.
[19:22] <kk4ewt> and you shouldnt but your creds in that bash script
[19:23] <githus> i have some error in terminal, would someone help me?
[19:24] <githus> http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-wine/ppa/ubuntu bionic Release
[19:24] <githus>   404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.95.83 80]
[19:24] <githus> Czytanie list pakietów... Gotowe
[19:24] <githus> E: The repository 'http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-wine/ppa/ubuntu bionic Release' does not have a Release file.
[19:24] <githus> ?
[19:25] <ioria> githus, because bionic is not supported
[19:25] <githus> how can i delete this error, or fix it?
[19:25] <ioria> githus, the last supported is xenial for that ppa
[19:26] <githus> i cant install wine?
[19:27] <ioria> !info wine64
[19:27] <ter6> @kk4ewt, using a cert file, not a password, the cert not require a password, there is limited risk for this specific case givin the type of ssh server, and the restrictions imposed
[19:28] <ter6> @kk4ewt, I dug around a bit, this seems to work ssh user@socket command < "Y"
[19:28] <githus> so i need to instal packages for 32?
[19:28] <ioria>  !info wine32
[19:31] <Iarla> How do I get 16.04 Network Manager to list my BCM4313 wireless device? I tried installing bcmwl-kernel-source (as per askubuntu.com) but it still doesn't appear.
[19:31] <PLLunlock> I'm liking this workspaces thing.  makes me think i have more monitors
[19:33] <githus> damn i dont know how to fix it haha
[19:33] <the-noob> 'smee again
[19:34] <the-noob> I've upgraded to 18.04 and nothing works... so I've started from the bottom
[19:34] <the-noob> every apt/sources.list.d is disabled
[19:34] <the-noob> I've created a clean /etc/apt/sources.list
[19:35] <the-noob> (context... : trying to install kubuntu-desktop package)
[19:35] <the-noob> getting a lot of unmet dependency
[19:35] <the-noob> so I've drilled into the first one ...dependency after dependency
[19:35] <the-noob> ended up with libegl-mesa0 : Depends: libgbm1 (= 18.0.5-0ubuntu0~18.04.1) but 1:18.0.1-0~x~padoka0 is to be installed
[19:36] <the-noob> why '..padoka is to be installed' ??
[19:38] <ledeni> Iarla: did you install b43-fwcutter package
[19:39] <Iarla> ledeni: I don't think so, I'll try it now.
[19:41] <Iarla> ledeni: okay, it's install. do I need to do some modprobing now or just reboot?
[19:42] <ledeni> Iarla: try reboot
[19:43] <Iarla> okay, thanks :) brb
[19:43] <the-noob> is there a way to force what will be installed ?
[19:47] <Iarla> ledeni: no luck.
[19:48] <ledeni> Iarla 'sudo apt install firmware-b43-installer'
[19:48] <littlejohnny> in recovery mode when clicking on 'root' and trying to type commands, i get sudden writing all over the screen of services starting.. etc.   why does this happen? and it doesnt take my command inputs properly
[19:49] <littlejohnny> seems like a graphics issue but then when i click enter or type ctrl-L it clears the screen, but it doesnt allow me to type commands fully.
[19:50] <littlejohnny> like WALL m
[19:50] <littlejohnny> MESSAGES
[19:50] <Iarla> ledeni: Done. No change, but I see /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-bcm43.conf. It blacklists b43, bcm43xx and others.
[19:51] <ledeni> 1)sudo modprobe -r b43;2)sudo modprobe b43 3)sudo rfkill unblock all
[19:52] <ledeni> Iarla^
[19:52] <Iarla> ledeni: Thanks. Done, but no change (at least no according to Network Manager).
[19:53] <ledeni> Iarla lspci | grep Wireless
[19:54] <Iarla> 03:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4313 802.11bgn Wireless Network Adapter (rev 01)
[19:57] <Iarla> rfkill list all doesn't return a list of soft/hard blocks like I'm seeing in the docs.
[19:58] <ledeni> Iarla:  cd /etc/modprobe.d/ and then sudo gedit blacklist.conf put a # in front of the line: blacklist bcm43xx
[19:59] <Iarla> ledeni: done. reboot?
[19:59] <ledeni> yes
[19:59] <Iarla> o/
[20:01] <Iarla> ledeni: no change after reboot.
[20:05] <ledeni> Iarla: 'dmesg | grep b43 | nc termbin.com 9999'
[20:06] <rhysers> I'm looking for help setting up port forwarding from my Ubuntu Server host to my KVM Guests.
[20:06] <Iarla> ledeni: nc?
[20:07] <ledeni> yes
[20:07] <Iarla> http://termbin.com/6vfoy
[20:10] <Iarla> ledeni: ^
[20:11] <ledeni> 1)sudo modprobe -r b43 ssb wl & 2)sudo modprobe wl
[20:12] <ledeni> Iarla^
[20:14] <Iarla> ledeni: 1) modprobe: FATAL: Module wl not found
[20:17] <Iarla> From this command: $ sudo modprobe -r b43 ssb wl
[20:18] <ledeni> Iarla try sudo apt-get install --reinstall bcmwl-kernel-source broadcom-sta-common broadcom-sta-source
[20:19] <ledeni> Iarla after that echo "blacklist brcmsmac" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
[20:20] <ledeni> Iarla and echo "blacklist bcma" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
[20:22] <Iarla> ledeni: blacklist brcmscmac
[20:23] <ledeni> yes
[20:23] <Iarla> That's the output
[20:24] <ledeni> ok
[20:25] <WiseMonk> hello i need help
[20:26] <WiseMonk> my Ubuntu insteller crashed. i tried to install it on SSD where windows was installed before, now windows gone, but ubuntu is not instralled
[20:27] <tomreyn> WiseMonk: crashed how?
[20:27] <WiseMonk> i put the iso on a external hard drive with dd and when i try to install it tells me that it crashed because there might be something wrong with the CD
[20:28] <WiseMonk> after setting up everything and selecting disk it crashes while chosing the username
[20:29] <WiseMonk> is it even possible to install on SSD? or is there a problem with my external medium?
[20:29] <tomreyn> which ubuntu flavor, variant (server/desktop, live/classic/alternatvie), architecture (amd64, i686, amr64,...) and version did you try to install?
[20:29] <WiseMonk> the newest version of standart ubuntu
[20:29] <WiseMonk> 64
[20:29] <WiseMonk> desktop
[20:30] <WiseMonk> how can I verify if dd copied everything correctly?
[20:30] <tomreyn> so you can still boot the computer from the external installer disk?
[20:30] <WiseMonk> yes
[20:30] <WiseMonk> i can also use Ubuntu life
[20:31] <tomreyn> when you boot the installer, there is a "media test" option on the grub menu
[20:31] <WiseMonk> ok, let me try
[20:31] <tomreyn> it should help you verify that the image was written properly and can be used safely.
[20:32] <WiseMonk> you mean the "check disk for defects"?
[20:32] <tomreyn> right
[20:32] <tomreyn> sorry, i forgot the exact title there
[20:33] <WiseMonk> ok it says "check finish, errors found in 1 file
[20:33] <WiseMonk> so I should dd again right?
[20:34] <tomreyn> either dd, then sync, then syanc again, then eject it, or use some other utility which uses a different approach for creating the bootable storage. such as https://etcher.io
[20:35] <Iarla> ledeni: Thanks for your help. Still no sign of it in Network Manager. Should I try a reboot?
[20:35] <tomreyn> either way, be sure to 'dmesg -w'  while preparing the bootable storage to ensure there are no errors.
[20:35] <Iarla> I could also try a live CD to make sure it works and then if so, do a fresh install.
[20:38] <WiseMonk> ok , thanks so far, how exactly do I sync after dd is done?
[20:39] <tomreyn> WiseMonk: you run 'sync' on a terminal
[20:39] <WiseMonk> same syntax as dd?
[20:40] <tomreyn> you just run dd as before, then run the separate 'sync' command without any options
[20:40] <tomreyn> there's is also an option to dd which triggers the sync, but i'd need to look it up.
[20:41] <Skybot> o/ all.
[20:41] <ledeni> Iarla: try sudo apt-get install linux-libc-dev libc6-dev linux-headers-generic linux-headers
[20:41] <tomreyn> WiseMonk: i need to leave it there, got to go for a while. others will help here if you'll repeat the situation and ask a question.
[20:42] <WiseMonk> ok, thank you very much :)
[20:42] <ledeni> Iarla: and reboot
[20:43] <Iarla> ledeni: E: Package 'linux-headers' has no installation candidate
[20:43] <Iarla> "You should explicitly select one to install"
[20:43] <Iarla> do I just match my current kernel version?
[20:43] <imi> hi
[20:44] <ledeni> Iarla: yes
[20:44] <imi> can you please recommend a graphical text file (source code and/or xml) diffing tool? thank you in advance?
[20:48] <the-noob> imi: beyond compare (free for 30 days only)
[20:48] <imi> I would be much more happy with free (as in free speech) software
[20:50] <the-noob> the suggestion fits well
[20:51] <the-noob> because that free speech thing is just bullshit
[20:51] <the-noob> try posting some non gender-neutral opinion on twitter if you don't believe me
[20:51] <Tin_man> imi might check here, cause I didn't >>https://alternativeto.net/software/beyond-compare/
[20:53] <hggdh> the-noob: (1) please keep on topic; (2) mind your language
[20:53] <Iarla> ledeni: success! Thanks to your hard work :)
[20:53] <the-noob> so much for your free speech imi
[20:53] <ledeni> Iarla YES
[20:54] <hggdh> the-noob: this channel has rules. Just follow them
[20:54] <the-noob> on topic then... I've used tasksel to uninstall ubuntu-desktop as I was having some problems
[20:54] <the-noob> with the intent of reinstalling them
[20:54] <the-noob> now I don't have even network (desktop)
[20:55] <ledeni> Iarla great✌🏼
[20:55] <the-noob> ifconfig -a doesn't list eth0
[20:55] <the-noob> but I do have one
[20:56] <SimonNL> enabled in bios the-noob ?
[20:57] <Iarla> ledeni: :D There are a lot of delicate configurations on this machine so you've saved me a serious headache. Thank you again.
[20:57] <SimonNL> first thing that came up ^
[20:57] <the-noob> SimonNL: afaik yes, nothing changed.. all I did was use tasksel to uninstall ubuntu-desktop and that removed a lot... I rebooted and now no eth0
[20:58] <the-noob> ifconfig -a lists enp4s0 and lo
[20:58] <ledeni> Iarla you are welcome
[20:58] <SimonNL> ^ there is your ethernet
[20:58] <SimonNL> enp4s0
[20:59] <SimonNL> I think systemd does that for ya
[20:59] <the-noob> now I hate this systemd dude
[20:59] <the-noob> ok, how do I get my network back ?
[20:59] <SimonNL> eummmmm
[21:00] <Ben64> reinstall ubuntu
[21:00] <the-noob> while I've considered that ... that's so welcome to windows 98
[21:00] <Ben64> well you borked it pretty good by removing everything
[21:02] <Tin_man> if i may ask, why did you remove the desktop? in a gui OS normally you kinda want the desktop.
[21:02] <hggdh> the-noob: you want KDE or standard Ubuntu (Gnome, on 18.04)?
[21:02] <rfm> the-noob, you can just configure the enp4so.  trouble is it's hard to guess how much you have left after uninstallting the desktop.  if NetworkManager is still there, nmcli is probably your best bet...
[21:03] <the-noob> rfm: nmcli: command not found :(
[21:04] <the-noob> Tin_man: oh boi. so I've upgraded from 16.04 today and ended up in console, no gui
[21:04] <the-noob> hggdh: at this point I'm happy with either (I was on KDE)
[21:05] <the-noob> I've tried installing `kubuntu-desktop` but hit a lot of dependency issues
[21:05] <hggdh> the-noob: first, sudo apt update; then sudo apt install --reinstall kubuntu-desktop
[21:05] <the-noob> won't work, no network
[21:06] <the-noob> in trying to fix the dependency  issues I thought 'gee... I'll remove the GUI parts, leave it as a server and install after'
[21:06] <Tin_man> how since you basically only have your core OS, it might be better to go with a new install, and use your up-to-date backup.
[21:07] <Tin_man> *now
[21:07] <the-noob> so that's why I used `tasksel -r ubuntu-desktop` but looks like it did more...
[21:07] <the-noob> yeah, that up to date backup... any minute now
[21:07] <SimonNL> ifconfig - configure a network interface       might be an option
[21:07] <SimonNL> man ifconfig
[21:11] <the-noob> will a recovery cd solve anything?
[21:11] <SimonNL> is it worth it
[21:13] <Tin_man> I never had a recovery CD on linux. I just keep my personal files backed up, and re-install, it is the reconfiguring all the personal settings,and programs that's a pain.
[21:14] <the-noob> Tin_man: indeed, I am able to do a clean install but reconfiguring and all that...
[21:14] <Tin_man> but still easier than windows, especially MySql.
[21:15] <Tin_man> depends on your time already invested in recovery, and how much time it will take to get back up and running.
[21:16] <the-noob> I'll probably timebox it
[21:16] <the-noob> like give it another hour of try this and that
[21:16] <the-noob> after just reinstall
[21:17] <rfm> the-noob, I'd read about "Temporary IP address assigment" in https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/network-configuration.html.en
[21:17] <Tin_man> probably good thinking
[21:19] <rfm> the-noob, you should be able to get the new net interface up temporarily, then you can re-install a desktop and get network-manager back, then config the net permanently with the nm gui..
[21:19] <the-noob> rfm: there goes a quarter of my timebox :))
[21:19] <the-noob> but looks like a good read, ty
[21:33] <Skybot> hi - I have this scenario where I use this new install of Ubuntu where I use it very irregularly... I see with this new install there's an option for live patch service.  I'm just a standard users learning linux... how crucial is it that I need this live patch enabled?
[21:33] <Ben64> not very
[21:33] <Skybot> thanks in advance.
[21:34] <Skybot> ok, ty.
[21:34] <Skybot> anyone else?
[21:34] <Ben64> it's more for people who don't want to reboot, like there are services that might be critical or whatever
[21:34] <Skybot> ahh, clear as a bell, thx.
[21:49] <the-noob> ok, got the network working
[21:49] <the-noob> not very helpful, if you ask me, but it's working
[21:51] <the-noob> any idea how I can debug a 'but it is not going to be installed'?
[21:52] <the-noob> still having those dependency issues
[21:52] <hggdh> the-noob: did you apt update?
[21:53] <the-noob> yes, no errors
[21:54] <hggdh> the-noob: the "... but it is not going to be installed" usually points to a discrepancy between a package and its dependencies. Should not happen if all you are installing is from the official repos
[21:55] <hggdh> this could be because you do not have an up-to-date list of packages (what sudo apt update would give you), or because you are mixing official and non-official repos
[21:56] <the-noob> I've disabled everything in sources.list.d
[21:56] <hggdh> and what do you have in /etc/apt/source.list? Use pastebin, please
[21:58] <the-noob> I knew you're going to ask so was just looking now
[21:58] <the-noob> https://askubuntu.com/questions/443036/what-is-the-correct-output-of-cat-etc-apt-sources-list
[21:58] <the-noob> the last chunk in the answer, that's what I have
[21:58] <the-noob> copy pasted from there
[21:58] <the-noob> one sec.. progress has been made!
[21:59] <energizer> im getting started with kde and i have a bunch of questions:
[21:59] <the-noob> apt-get install -f did lots of stuff
[21:59] <energizer> when i switch windows from terminator, the text dims. how can i prevent that, so i can read it when its not in focus?
[21:59] <hggdh> the-noob: ah, could well be. Yes, let it run
[22:00] <energizer> how can i set a custom keyboard shortcut? all the buttons in Keyboard Shortcuts seem to be for changing the keys for already-existing commands
[22:00] <the-noob> tasksel is now working and doing stuff
[22:00] <energizer> i set a theme called Arc Dark and the context menu on all my windows is white text on light gray background and completely impossible to read
[22:02] <the-noob> energizer: you will need to add a new shortcut yourself
[22:03] <the-noob> as for the other bits.. I had .. Breeze? installed and looked good
[22:04] <energizer> the-noob: how do i add a new shortcut myself
[22:04] <energizer> do i have to write a script and save it, and select it?
[22:05] <the-noob> no, you can use the GUI
[22:05] <energizer> the-noob: i dont see a button for that
[22:07] <energizer> the-noob: for example if i want to run `notify-send "Hello, World!"` by pressing Ctrl+F9, what do I do?
[22:07] <generic> there are serious problems here. ok first it was only firefox crashing that made me suspcious. now chromium and netsurf crashes too
[22:07] <generic> im running from ram
[22:07] <generic> i had one tab open
[22:07] <the-noob> so, alt + space, will trigger the top-center 'run ..'
[22:07] <generic> i blocked out all traffic other than the connection to dns and the page I was watching
[22:08] <the-noob> in that box type `shortcuts` and select global shortcuts
[22:08] <generic> however sysrq keys still work after the crash *wtf*
[22:08] <the-noob> you'll see a + sign in bottom left, you can add fro there
[22:09] <energizer> the-noob: no plus sign
[22:10] <energizer> the-noob: there is a button "..." with hover-text "add a new shortcut to an application". if i click that it gives me a list of applications.
[22:11] <the-noob> what version are you running ?
[22:14] <the-noob> command menu (alt+space) -> about system
[22:14] <energizer> the-noob: how do i find out
[22:15] <the-noob> see above
[22:16] <energizer> could you repost, i got dced
[22:16] <the-noob> command menu (alt+space) -> about system
[22:16] <energizer> kubuntu 18.04 kde plasma 5.12.6
[22:17] <the-noob> l,
[22:17] <the-noob> ok, and if you run 'global shortcuts' from the command menu
[22:19] <energizer> i have a window open called Global Keyboard Shortcuts
[22:20] <the-noob> and there's no big + button on bottom left ?
[22:20] <the-noob> above help ?
[22:20] <energizer> no there are two buttons called "..." and "..."
[22:21] <energizer> with hover text "add a shortcut to an application" "remove the selected component"
[22:21] <the-noob> hm, must be something with the locale then
[22:21] <the-noob> but yeah, use the first one on left
[22:22] <the-noob> the one with 'add a shortcut to an application"
[22:22] <energizer> ok it gives a list of applications
[22:22] <energizer> in a tree of categorie
[22:22] <energizer> s
[22:23] <the-noob> ok, backtracking a bit... what do you want the shortcut to do ?
[22:25] <energizer> run emacsclient with a certain list of arguments
[22:26] <the-noob> ok, then mah bad
[22:26] <the-noob> you need the custom shortcuts menu
[22:26] <the-noob> command menu-> custom->custom shortcuts
[22:26] <the-noob> right click on left side
[22:26] <energizer> ah now we're talking
[22:27] <the-noob> new-> global shortcut ->command/ url
[22:27] <the-noob> then you'll have 3 tabs on right
[22:27] <the-noob> trigger is the key sequence and action is your command
[22:33] <energizer> ok i set up a shortcut but it doesnt seem to do anything
[22:36] <the-noob> have you set the trigger?
[22:38] <the-noob> just replace your action with a quick test
[22:38] <the-noob> like 'notify-send test'
[22:38] <the-noob> if that works then your command is wrong
[22:38] <the-noob> if not, then the key binding is :)
[22:41] <energizer> ok did it again, worked this time
[22:47] <waterxx> guys i have some questions about power management on laptop running lubuntu. it seems alot better on windows at the moment. is there any way to get the same or similar features.
[22:48] <waterxx> like for example, I cant lower display brightness, and it wont go to sleep after inactivity. only the screen will shut down no proper sleep mode
[23:10] <granttrec> what happens when you make a .desktop file, the program loads up, then the icon become a question mark