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| st-gourichon-fid | On Xubuntu 18.04 AMD64, fully up-to-date, a strange problem has appeared recently. | 11:42 |
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| st-gourichon-fid | Special keys don't work: suspend, power, volume +/-/mute, probably others. | 11:43 |
| st-gourichon-fid | xfce4-notifyd-config says "the notification service is not running". | 11:44 |
| brainwash | can you start it manually? xfce4-notifyd | 11:45 |
| brainwash | also, a reboot did not fix your problem? | 11:45 |
| st-gourichon-fid | Reboot did not fix. | 11:45 |
| st-gourichon-fid | If I suspend the laptop, then resume and unlock session, then I see the "logout/supend/shutdown" dialog appear. I have to dismiss it several times, probably as many times as I pressed the suspend key. | 11:45 |
| st-gourichon-fid | Suspending the laptop works using the menu, only the key seems ignored but somehow remembered for a long time. | 11:46 |
| st-gourichon-fid | If I manually run /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/xfce4/notifyd/xfce4-notifyd things work again. | 11:46 |
| brainwash | like it's stuck in a queue | 11:46 |
| st-gourichon-fid | Yes. | 11:46 |
| st-gourichon-fid | Let me check the logout/login again. | 11:46 |
| brainwash | best to check ~/.xsession-errors I'd think | 11:46 |
| st-gourichon-fid | ok | 11:47 |
| brainwash | this command will give you some debug output | 11:48 |
| brainwash | XFSETTINGSD_DEBUG=1 xfsettingsd --replace --no-daemon | 11:48 |
| st-gourichon-fid | lot of noise in ~/.xsession-errors . I'll flush it and login again. | 11:48 |
| st-gourichon-fid | Will also try your suggestion. | 11:48 |
| brainwash | and of course there is the system log also | 11:49 |
| brainwash | worth to check if there is something related to the problem | 11:49 |
| st-gourichon-fid | xfsettingsd logs, but nothing related. | 11:53 |
| st-gourichon-fid | Interestingly, currently suspend and power buttons work (they open the confirmation dialog, as expected). But volume keys don't work. | 11:53 |
| st-gourichon-fid | Neither do xf86play/pause/etc | 11:53 |
| brainwash | st-gourichon-fid: do you have the pulseaudio panel plugin added to your panel? | 11:57 |
| st-gourichon-fid | Yes, why? | 11:58 |
| brainwash | that one manages the media keys | 11:58 |
| st-gourichon-fid | As soon as I run /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/xfce4/notifyd/xfce4-notifyd manually, everything is fixed. | 11:58 |
| brainwash | that is the notification daemon though | 11:59 |
| brainwash | for those notification bubbles | 11:59 |
| brainwash | so, anything in ~/.xsession-errors ? | 11:59 |
| st-gourichon-fid | (wrapper-2.0:15193): pulseaudio-plugin-WARNING **: 13:56:23.260: Error while sending notification : Error calling StartServiceByName for org.freedesktop.Notifications: Timeout was reached | 12:00 |
| st-gourichon-fid | gmusicbrowser got hung | 12:00 |
| st-gourichon-fid | *** unhandled exception in callback: | 12:00 |
| st-gourichon-fid | *** Error calling StartServiceByName for org.freedesktop.Notifications: Timeout was reached at /usr/bin/../share/gmusicbrowser/plugins/notify.pm line 85. | 12:00 |
| st-gourichon-fid | *** ignoring at /usr/bin/gmusicbrowser line 1671. | 12:00 |
| st-gourichon-fid | gmusicbrowser worked again as soon as I ran manually /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/xfce4/notifyd/xfce4-notifyd | 12:00 |
| st-gourichon-fid | like the rest | 12:00 |
| brainwash | please use a pastebin service for that | 12:01 |
| brainwash | see /topic | 12:01 |
| st-gourichon-fid | Oh, sorry. I thougt 3 lines was under the annoyance threshold. | 12:01 |
| st-gourichon-fid | on #vlc the threshold is 2 lines... | 12:02 |
| brainwash | regarding the log.. uhm | 12:02 |
| st-gourichon-fid | I've been using Linux for 20 years, often had several desktops available on my machine. | 12:03 |
| st-gourichon-fid | several desktop environments | 12:03 |
| st-gourichon-fid | I installed a fresh Xubuntu 18.04 when it was release. What I did recently is install gnome then KDE packages. | 12:03 |
| brainwash | so, the keys work, but the assigned actions fail due to gmusicbrowser crashing | 12:04 |
| st-gourichon-fid | Usually there's no interference. I think this is the cause because it appeared at that time. | 12:04 |
| st-gourichon-fid | No, gmusicbrowser is victim like the others, not cuplrit. | 12:04 |
| st-gourichon-fid | All affected programs complain about notifications not going through. | 12:04 |
| brainwash | that should not have a severe effect though | 12:04 |
| st-gourichon-fid | gmusicbrowser is still alive like the others, and works well as soon as I run /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/xfce4/notifyd/xfce4-notifyd | 12:05 |
| brainwash | xfce4-notifyd should be activated via dbus on demand | 12:05 |
| brainwash | that seems to fail | 12:06 |
| st-gourichon-fid | Yes, I believe it's what happens. | 12:06 |
| st-gourichon-fid | I already debugged key issue in the past (xfce4-volumed at the time) so see a little how it works. | 12:06 |
| st-gourichon-fid | Is there a command-line client for paste.ubuntu.com ? | 12:07 |
| brainwash | pipe to pastebinit | 12:07 |
| st-gourichon-fid | Hmm, my apt-file is broken? It returns no results, that's why I did not see pastebinit. | 12:10 |
| st-gourichon-fid | apt-file find bin.*paste | 12:10 |
| st-gourichon-fid | http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/kqbNf4hZF5/ | 12:11 |
| st-gourichon-fid | xfsettingsd does not say much after initial blurb | 12:11 |
| brainwash | >GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.Spawn.ChildExited | 12:14 |
| brainwash | but you are able to manually start notifyd | 12:14 |
| brainwash | https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/294510/xfce-notifications-not-working | 12:15 |
| * st-gourichon-fid reads | 12:19 | |
| brainwash | mmh | 12:20 |
| brainwash | maybe it is supposed to be started as system user service | 12:20 |
| st-gourichon-fid | No /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc.d/50-systemd-user.sh on my system | 12:20 |
| brainwash | that's probably archlinux specific ^ | 12:21 |
| brainwash | check this: systemctl --user status xfce4-notifyd | 12:21 |
| st-gourichon-fid | I had an "interesting" variant | 12:21 |
| brainwash | I only have 18.10 running here, and xfce4-notifyd is started on login via systemd | 12:22 |
| brainwash | probably the same in 18.04 | 12:22 |
| brainwash | not on login, but on demand I meant | 12:23 |
| st-gourichon-fid | After logout/login I had to run notifyd manually again from tty2 because my whole desktop got stuck after I tried to run gmusicbrowser from the pulseaudio panel plugin. | 12:24 |
| st-gourichon-fid | I waited for more than a minute and since it stayed stuck I logged in on tty2 and typed this: export XDG_SEAT_PATH=/org/freedesktop/DisplayManager/Seat0 ; export DISPLAY=:0 ; /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/xfce4/notifyd/xfce4-notifyd | 12:24 |
| brainwash | what does "systemctl --user status xfce4-notifyd" return after login and pressing media keys or running "notify-send test"? | 12:25 |
| st-gourichon-fid | Okay, I'll logout / login and try | 12:25 |
| st-gourichon-fid | now it says Active: inactive (dead) | 12:25 |
| st-gourichon-fid | Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/user/xfce4-notifyd.service; static; vendor preset: enabled) | 12:25 |
| brainwash | right | 12:25 |
| st-gourichon-fid | I logout and come back. | 12:25 |
| st-gourichon-fid | systemctl --user status xfce4-notifyd always says http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/wjCRggshd8/ | 12:29 |
| st-gourichon-fid | I notice that on login some panel items take time to load. | 12:29 |
| st-gourichon-fid | Also, Ctrl-Alt-T to open a terminal is not affected | 12:29 |
| st-gourichon-fid | so since the panel was unresponsive I opened hexchat via a terminal. | 12:30 |
| brainwash | mmh | 12:30 |
| st-gourichon-fid | Now I am back to the buggy state since I have not launched notifyd manually. | 12:30 |
| st-gourichon-fid | I grep'ed for notifyd in /etc | 12:31 |
| st-gourichon-fid | I guess this is unrelated: xdg/xdg-xubuntu/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml/xfce4-notifyd.xml | 12:31 |
| brainwash | probably | 12:32 |
| brainwash | now we are that point at which one should test with a second user account | 12:32 |
| brainwash | to verify the issue | 12:32 |
| st-gourichon-fid | Ah, good idea. | 12:33 |
| st-gourichon-fid | I just ran gmusicbrowser from command line, it does not appear (waiting for the panel to respond, I guess). | 12:33 |
| st-gourichon-fid | Ah, it finally appears after about 30 seconds. | 12:33 |
| st-gourichon-fid | I create an account and open a session. | 12:33 |
| st-gourichon-fid | The user I just created is affected by the problem. | 12:36 |
| st-gourichon-fid | cat /usr/share/dbus-1/services/org.xfce.xfce4-notifyd.Notifications.service | 12:38 |
| st-gourichon-fid | http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/HHfb7C3KHy/ | 12:38 |
| st-gourichon-fid | dpkg -L xfce4-notifyd | xargs grep -i notifyd 2>/dev/null | egrep -v '(LC_|icons|themes)' | 12:41 |
| st-gourichon-fid | https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/M2NwnbNBkH/ | 12:41 |
| brainwash | st-gourichon-fid: I think something in session management is not working properly | 12:45 |
| st-gourichon-fid | I'm looking at how systemd runs services | 12:45 |
| brainwash | xfce4-session/logind/dbus | 12:45 |
| brainwash | did you check journalctl yet? | 12:48 |
| * st-gourichon-fid looks at journalctl output | 12:48 | |
| brainwash | I suggested to check system logs | 12:48 |
| brainwash | other than that, you would have to check the apt logs, and see what has been updated/installed recently | 12:49 |
| st-gourichon-fid | Well, installing Gnome and KDE implies a zillion packaged... :-/ | 12:50 |
| st-gourichon-fid | packages | 12:50 |
| brainwash | indeed | 12:50 |
| st-gourichon-fid | There's an expedient to just uninstall everything KDE related, but I have to try Wayland, and so far I can't use my beloved XFCE desktop, with wayland. | 12:51 |
| st-gourichon-fid | Even swaywm is not packaged in Xubuntu 18.04. | 12:51 |
| brainwash | obviously not | 12:51 |
| brainwash | it's still alpha/beta | 12:51 |
| st-gourichon-fid | (and apparently not just wget/compile/run) | 12:51 |
| st-gourichon-fid | So, I'd like to track this and publish a proper fix, so that KDE and XFCE can exist on the same X/Ubuntu 18.04 without interference. (KDE being the cause is not formally proven, just a hunch.) | 12:53 |
| st-gourichon-fid | XFCE is so much more minimal and cosy but I digress. | 12:53 |
| brainwash | let's see if there is any hints in journalctl then | 12:53 |
| st-gourichon-fid | I'm too old and still more familiar with /var/log ... any hints at some journalctl command line options to focus quickly. | 12:54 |
| st-gourichon-fid | ? | 12:54 |
| st-gourichon-fid | I'm looking at journalctl at the time my brand new user logs in. | 12:55 |
| brainwash | page down key? | 12:55 |
| st-gourichon-fid | ;-) | 12:55 |
| st-gourichon-fid | août 26 14:35:31 n551jk dbus-daemon[1641]: [session uid=1005 pid=1641] Activating via systemd: service name='org.bluez.obex' unit='dbus-org.bluez.obex.service' requested by ':1.41' (uid=1005 pid=1835 comm="/usr/bin/python3 /usr/bin/blueman-applet " label="unconfined") | 12:55 |
| st-gourichon-fid | So, systems does activates other services. | 12:55 |
| st-gourichon-fid | s/systems/systemd/ | 12:55 |
| st-gourichon-fid | systemd startd a number of services, the last one is août 26 14:35:33 n551jk dbus-daemon[1641]: [session uid=1005 pid=1641] Successfully activated service 'org.gtk.vfs.Metadata' | 12:57 |
| brainwash | no errors in the log? | 12:58 |
| brainwash | any errors which could be related to the problem | 12:58 |
| st-gourichon-fid | No sign of notifyd. | 13:03 |
| st-gourichon-fid | I can paste the part at user login time if you want. | 13:04 |
| brainwash | maybe | 13:07 |
| st-gourichon-fid | http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/jg5jfFNbrp/ | 13:07 |
| st-gourichon-fid | The user is named "sg-nonotify" | 13:07 |
| brainwash | without any hint it's pretty hard to pinpoint the culprit :/ | 13:08 |
| brainwash | further hint I mean | 13:08 |
| st-gourichon-fid | Hmhm. | 13:09 |
| brainwash | what is added to the log when you trigger a notification? | 13:13 |
| st-gourichon-fid | Have to be away for a moment. Have not seen anything yet. | 14:19 |
| ChunkzZ | I have a few downloads stored on my HDD, I've created a folder to download to, I have created another fold for something on the HDD that's in the dir but it's asking to copy/paste into it. is this normal? | 15:24 |
| ChunkzZ | ahhh just cut and it's fine now. | 15:25 |
| st-gourichon-fid | Back | 17:06 |
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