[04:37] <Oooohboy> hello all, can anyone point me to a doc that has instructions for a backtrace when wayland is crashing completely? What do I need to gather for an effective bug report here?
[06:34] <oSoMoN> good morning desktoppers
[06:41] <tsimonq2> Heya oSoMoN, how goes it?
[06:42] <duflu> Morning oSoMoN, tsimonq2
[06:42] <tsimonq2> Heya duflu
[06:46] <oSoMoN> hey tsimonq2, I'm good, how are you?
[06:46] <oSoMoN> good afternoon duflu
[06:46] <tsimonq2> oSoMoN: Pretty good.
[07:17] <didrocks> good morning
[07:21] <duflu> Morning didrocks
[07:22] <didrocks> hey duflu
[07:23] <oSoMoN> salut didrocks, ça va?
[07:24] <didrocks> hey oSoMoN, les acouphènes ont pourri mes vacances, mais bon, c'est la vie… et toi ?
[07:31] <oSoMoN> zut :/ moi ça va, j’ai pris des semi-vacances avec deux semaines consécutives de trois jours, ça fait du bien
[07:39] <jibel> Bonjour didrocks !
[07:39] <didrocks> salut jibel
[07:40] <jibel> didrocks, bien reposé malgré les acouphènes ?
[07:41] <didrocks> jibel: à part ça, les vacances étaient bien, oui :)
[07:41] <didrocks> et ici, tout s'est bien passé ?
[07:44] <jibel> ras
[07:54] <duflu> Also hi jibel
[07:54] <jibel> Hi duflu
[07:59] <seb128> good morning desktopers
[08:03] <oSoMoN> good morning seb128
[08:03] <seb128> lut oSoMoN! en forme ? bon w.e ?
[08:04] <seb128> t'es tjs en France ?
[08:05] <oSoMoN> seb128, la forme! je suis rentré vendredi soir
[08:05] <oSoMoN> et toi, bon week-end?
[08:08] <seb128> ah, je pensais que tu passais le w.e encore là bas, tu me diras faut bien rentrer à un moment
[08:08] <seb128> ouais, on était invité à un mariage samedi et j'avais un match de tennis vendredi soir que j'ai dû finir hier parce qu'il a commencé à tomber des cordes et qu'on a dû arrêter
[08:18] <oSoMoN> I'm seeing PDF documents being opened by default with libreoffice-draw instead of evince in a cosmic VM, known issue?
[08:19] <seb128> no
[08:19] <seb128> is that from nautilus ?
[08:19] <seb128> or from a webbrowser ?
[08:19] <seb128> also new user ?
[08:22] <seb128> oSoMoN, gio info <...> | grep content-type and "gio mime <typecopied>"
[08:23] <oSoMoN> gotta change diapers, back in a moment with more info
[08:29] <seb128> lol, I had forgotten the context when I first read that, I was like "why does he want to give us more info about the diaper!" :)
[08:29] <duflu> There was a bug about totem opening PDFs by default recently, but it wasn't high quality enough for me to recommend reusing that bug
[08:30] <duflu> So I guess the problem is just when evince isn't #1
[08:33] <duflu> oSoMoN, is evince installed?
[08:33]  * duflu wonders if priority is affected by package installation order
[08:33] <oSoMoN> yes
[08:34] <oSoMoN> libreoffice-draw.desktop is first, org.gnome.Evince.desktop is second
[08:34] <oSoMoN> it's a rather stock cosmic VM, installed fairly recently and upgraded daily
[08:35] <jamesh> oSoMoN: iirc, the application chosen is effectively random if two apps claim the same mime type and there is no defaults file to break the tie
[08:37] <duflu> oSoMoN, workaround: Right click, Open with other application, Select
[08:37] <duflu> and it will remember
[08:38] <oSoMoN> sure, but it doesn't feel right that evince is not the default
[08:38] <duflu> Yeah
[08:38] <jibel> oSoMoN, I had the same issue but pdf were opened by gimp
[08:38] <jibel> I thought I did something wrong
[08:38] <duflu> Is there even a priority algorithm at all?
[08:38] <duflu> Sounds like there isn't
[08:38] <oSoMoN> jamesh, where should the defaults file go? and which package would be responsible for writing it?
[08:39] <jamesh> hmm.  /usr/share/applications/defaults.list should be forcing it to evince
[08:39] <seb128> I can fix that
[08:39]  * seb128 does
[08:39] <seb128> https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop/desktop-file-utils/ubuntu/view/head:/debian/defaults.list
[08:39] <seb128> still use the old .desktop name
[08:39] <seb128> or we dropped the compat names in cosmic
[08:39] <seb128> let me update that file
[08:40] <jamesh> yep.  It says "application/pdf=evince.desktop" rather than org.gnome.Evince.desktop
[08:41] <duflu> Hmm. Maybe I already applied the workaround on cosmic and forgot
[08:41] <seb128> the default is not deterministic if there isn't a valid one in that config
[08:41] <seb128> so maybe you just are lucky and get evince
[08:42] <jibel> it used to work reliably, my system is a pretty old installation and this behaviour changed recently, like a week or so
[08:42] <seb128> right, we only dropped the compat .desktop recently I think
[08:43] <duflu> jibel, evince upgraded to 3.29.x a week or two ago :)
[08:45] <jamesh> duflu: you should see any manual associations in ~/.config/mimeapps.list
[08:45] <jamesh> or ~/.local/share/applications/mimeapps.list
[08:45] <duflu> jamesh, Thanks. Unfortunately I can't tell manual additions a few minutes ago from those added earlier
[08:46] <duflu> but certainly they are there
[09:00] <seb128> k, fix uploaded in http://launchpadlibrarian.net/385549885/desktop-file-utils_0.23-1ubuntu4_0.23-3ubuntu1.diff.gz
[09:00] <seb128> oSoMoN, ^
[09:03] <duflu> Sounds like no one except early adopters of cosmic will encounter that bug though
[09:05] <seb128> well, before that fix anyone using cosmic would be hit by a wrong/random default for opening pdf & text files
[09:06] <seb128> but it doesn't impact user configs
[09:07] <jamesh> some people might have accidentally got the correct association though
[09:34] <oSoMoN> seb128, thanks
[10:05] <seb128> oSoMoN, so what was the status of the libreoffice update? still having autopkgtest issues?
[10:06] <oSoMoN> seb128, I resolved the autopkgtests issues, I'm now performing some thorough manual testing, and when I'm confident it's good to go I'll file a FFe
[10:07] <seb128> oSoMoN, great, thx :)
[10:08] <oSoMoN> mmm, exporting a doc to PDF works but printing to file (postscript) results in garbled rendering, wondering if this is a LO issue or an evince regression
[10:10] <oSoMoN> ghostscript fails to render too
[10:10] <seb128> could be a ghostscript issue
[10:28] <seb128> RAOF, hey, colord update reminder a week later :)
[10:33] <oSoMoN> ah, that's a LO bug indeed: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=119357
[10:33] <oSoMoN> patch already in 6.1.1, so should be fine
[11:25] <Trevinho> hi didrocks, welcome back :)
[12:19] <oSoMoN> ricotz, does bug #1789202 ring a bell?
[12:49] <ricotz> oSoMoN, can't reproduce it here (using -prereleases ppa build)
[12:50] <oSoMoN> ricotz, I installed libreoffice-base and the crash went away, looks like java is needed?
[12:52] <ricotz> oSoMoN, hmm, maybe some database libraries which are shared
[12:54] <oSoMoN> aha, indeed when I want to insert a field the dialog opens on a "databases" tab
[12:54] <oSoMoN> that's new in 6.1 I think, it used to open on the first tab ("Document")
[13:14] <didrocks> thanks Trevinho!
[13:24] <seb128> hey Trevinho :)
[13:24] <Trevinho> hi seb128
[13:27] <seb128> Trevinho, how are you?
[13:27] <Trevinho> good thanks, you?
[13:41] <seb128> I'm good thanks
[15:56] <oSoMoN> seb128, FYI, the LO FFe bug is bug #1789240