[00:31] <bluesabre> flocculant: seems so
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[09:49] <flocculant> bluesabre ochosi - thought I'd come back on yesterdays nightmare ...
[09:49] <flocculant> it got worse ;)
[09:49] <flocculant> woke up this morning to no working installs 
[09:50] <bluesabre> flocculant: yikes
[09:50] <flocculant> cosmic is still foobar - this one I reinstalled, thankfully I've always got a stick with one of our releases on it - so reinstalled 18.04.1 ...
[09:51] <bluesabre> is the breakage limited to us?
[09:51] <flocculant> it seems to be hating an hdd 
[09:51] <flocculant> so it could well be hardware
[09:51] <flocculant> bluesabre: no idea - not been able to look if it is the pixbuf update
[09:52] <flocculant> though if I mount the hdd in a cradle and usb3 it - it's fine and gdisk doesn't complain about it 
[09:52] <bluesabre> I have a cosmic vm from 12 days ago, I can test with it
[09:53] <flocculant> if you could do that - that would be great - all my iso's etc are on the hdd on the desk :D
[09:54] <flocculant> if nothing else it'll prove the updates are ok :p
[09:58] <flocculant> hopefully back in a bit
[10:03] <flocculant> man intel graphics really aren't too good here ... originally I wondered if it was the nvidia card dying - rather than something disky 
[10:05] <bluesabre> updates almost done running
[10:05] <bluesabre> had 286 new packages
[10:07] <flocculant> ha ha 
[10:07] <flocculant> I assume there was gdk-pixbuf in the list?
[10:07] <bluesabre> yeah
[10:07] <bluesabre> among other g*k things
[10:08] <flocculant> yea
[10:08] <flocculant> it balked when setting it up here - and got the warning I pastebinned
[10:09] <bluesabre> looks like it booted and logged in
[10:09] <flocculant> that's good - just me knackered
[10:10] <flocculant> due a reinstall - managed a whole dev cycle without it last time \o/
[10:11] <flocculant> bit confused why I can mount the hdd fine in a cradle - but not in the machine, unless the sata cable is breaking down
[10:12] <bluesabre> seems strange
[10:12] <bluesabre> can you boot from the cradle?
[10:12] <flocculant> and I can see why the gdk-pixbuf-query-loaders command fails 
[10:12] <flocculant> it's a data drive
[10:12] <bluesabre> ah, gotcha
[10:12] <flocculant> from the changelog > Remove /usr/bin/gdk-pixbuf-query-loaders symlink from -dev package.
[10:13] <flocculant> so lets remove that - but not the directive to use it if something breaks ...
[10:13] <flocculant> sigh
[10:18] <flocculant> right - going to take the desktop apart and put this drive back in ... could be some time - thankfully it's a public holiday today
[10:25] <flocculant> so that's ok now
[10:26] <flocculant> apparently ...
[10:49] <brainwash> bluesabre: any final thought on bug 1754872 ?
[10:49] <ubottu> bug 1754872 in xubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) "apt install xubuntu-desktop does not resolve dependencies properly" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1754872
[11:01] <flocculant> bluesabre: gremlins ...
[11:01] <flocculant> brainwash: hi :)
[11:02] <flocculant> bluesabre: reinstalled cosmic - so whatever it was is gone now - but I did report the pixbuf symlink issue
[11:49] <brainwash> hello flocculant 
[14:59] <ochosi> flocculant: good to hear, i'll also try updating packages again tonight then ;)
[16:02] <flocculant> :)
[16:58] <Spass> flocculant, my VM 18.10 install works good here, but I update it pretty regularly, I can try on my "real" 18.10 install on a different disk, that one I didn't upgrade in quite some time
[17:00] <Spass> I'll check that now, brb
[17:37] <Spass> my HDD 18.10 install seems to work fine, over 450 packages were upgraded - https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/2bbwc2cmFG/
[17:38] <Spass> btw, it looks like a mess after I was testing that nasty "screen edge" issue - https://ibb.co/e8JRNp
[17:39] <Spass> and after that 450+ packages and reboot I just needed to do full-upgrade with these - https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/TGMgVynsXB/
[18:53] <flocculant> Spass: yea - pretty much convinced it was a local hw issue given that 18.04 gave up on me too
[18:54] <flocculant> ochosi: :) glad it turned out to be me only - but thought I would say something just in case ...
[18:55] <flocculant> well actually - I'd rather it was global - seem to have dodgy 3Tb drive ...
[18:55] <flocculant> but you know :D
[21:26] <ochosi> flocculant: yeah, thanks for mentioning it anyway!
[23:43] <Unit193> bluesabre: Is there a reason we're behind on xfce4-settings?
[23:48] <bluesabre> Unit193: I think debian was running behind because the latest release was minor... maybe?
[23:48] <Unit193> Not according to my page, Debian already has it.  I thought there was some slight issue.