=== KipperedSnack is now known as mindamp === mindamp is now known as Nogura === Nogura is now known as mindamp === mindamp is now known as hey_joe === amirpro_ is now known as amirpro [00:51] I don't like that Ubuntu's menus/settings/configurations are getting more sparse [00:58] customization is a win for linux [01:10] cluelessperson: #kde wooo [01:16] Trying to install kubuntu 18.04 on a hdd with 3 primary partition setting up /dev/sda4 primary with 39962 mb ext4 format mount point / beginning of space getting message /dev/sda4 assigned to / start at an offset of 3072 bytes from the minimum alignment for this disc How do I correct ! === Dreaman is now known as Blade [02:14] I lost connection to the CUPS server in a new Xubuntu 18.04 install. Can anyone share what should be typed in the "connect" box for CUPS? [02:32] hey guys, i'm running ubuntu on an externel hd and recently just found out why some applications were so SLOW to load or even stop loading, such as calculator, system monitor and etc. so i'm deciding to just remove all snap stuff [02:32] what's the official way to remove all snap related stuff? [02:32] and replace it with the deb version? [02:40] Where should I extract Thunderbird on Xubuntu? What is the normal location? [02:41] where is the sleep/screensaver time setting on ubuntu? [02:41] Ubuntu 18 has taken it away [02:51] moredrowsy: what does the one have to do with the other? but you can snap remove things (needs sudo) and then see if debs are present. [02:53] because the snap version of the programs are so slow and sometimes wont load. i just want to replace it all with the deb version [02:53] oh found it [02:53] under "privacy" not display, or "securiyt" [02:54] moredrowsy: if they are slow, that's a bug -- they aren't for most people. [03:03] You know how Windows tries to automatically install new drivers only when you install new hardware? How does it work in a Linux-based OS like Ubuntu? [03:04] Are all drivers already installed and ready for loading (via udev?) [03:05] And if there's some hardware that Ubuntu doesn't recognise, I would have to go download the driver myself (maybe from the manufacturer's website)? [03:08] I have a laptop with both an NVIDIA and an Intel graphics card... is there any way to convince Ubuntu 18.04 to prefer the NVidia? [03:08] DouglasK: have you looked into Bumblebee? [03:09] Not yet... was hoping for RTFMs and good Google terms. This sounds like the latter. Thanks! [03:11] Assuming your dual GPU is based on NVIDIA Optimus technology. [03:14] i have a file that is 15.9Gib and every time i try to remove it it appears again with its name incremented by 1. wtf [03:14] tesla filed a patent for automatic turn signals [03:14] twf [03:15] those should not be valid patents [03:15] how do i get rid of it? https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/CmH7y1MW/image.png [03:16] madLyfe: looks like you are using ocml-fuze there right? [03:16] https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/QqnhHVBG6p/ === amirpro_ is now known as amirpro [03:16] no idea what that means [03:17] madLyfe: Okay. Nevermind. Can you pop open a terminal and rm /path/to/file.name ? [03:17] there was a DUMP file in there that i thought came from windows of the same size. i tried to remove it, and it looks like it turned into this .fuse file. [03:17] madLyfe: https://askubuntu.com/questions/493198/what-is-a-fuse-hidden-file-and-why-do-they-exist#493206 [03:17] mouses: look at my paste, i did that [03:17] ahhh sorry just saw the image, not the paste [03:19] madLyfe: So, what kind of device is this plugged into the system? [03:19] k_sze[work]: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/FtC36C9cD8/ [03:19] ah [03:19] rsync is just making 15gb files? [03:19] :) [03:19] wtf [03:19] Are you currently rsyncing files? [03:20] i had to kill the rsync cuz it wasnt completing and want to start over fresh. can i git rid of the file somehow [03:20] You could check the complete command line of that rsycn process using ps, I think. [03:20] not currently, but i was. i tried to log out and back in but nope [03:20] Then you first need to kill the rsync process somehow. === NickG365_ is now known as NickG365 [03:20] Clearly it's still hanging around and you don't want that. [03:21] hmm i was pretty sure i stopped it. probably not fully: https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/iFz7kUvF/image.png [03:21] hmmm i cant end the process [03:22] killed em [03:23] ok its gone [03:23] tyvm [04:13] Hello, I'm curious. Been thinking a lot recently and outside of video games and web browsers, do many people even really use desktop applications anymore? It seems like the conversion to webapps has encompassed the majority of society at this point (thus Chromebooks/HP Stream). [04:14] TorbenLeif: not a topic for this channel [04:14] TorbenLeif: this is ubuntu support [04:14] Ooooh, thought it was just a general chat. My bad, is there a general chat room for linux users? === rud0lf is now known as police === police is now known as rud0lf [05:01] When I use "sudo apt-get -o Acquire::ForceIPv4=true update" on Ubuntu Xenial 16.04.3 LTS, it hangs at "http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-backports/universe Translation-en". How can I fix this? [05:20] I now tried switching to http://in.archive.ubuntu.com mirror, but, again "sudo apt-get -o Acquire::ForceIPv4=true update" hangs at xenial-backports/universe Translation-en". Any idea how can I update and upgrade? [05:24] can anybody help me i want to change my grub file configuration file from GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash intel_idle.max_cstate=1" from adding GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash nolapic_timer clocksource=jiffies" [05:28] Hi Team [05:28] I have set cronjobs [05:28] gt8ost4l: What is the nature of your difficulty ? [05:29] whenever cronjobs is run.. it throws "Message: No space left on device - " [05:29] i am deleting this in each cronjob [05:29] not sure why iam getting this error [05:30] it would be a great if someone can give me pointers [05:31] viveksoni: As a place to start - what shows ' df -h ; df -i ' ? [05:31] Bashing-om: i told you already combing two lines into one! [05:31] let me give some information about that cronjobs.. it fetch some pdf from website and download it parse it [05:32] Bashing-om: is it quiet splash intel_idle.max_cstate=1 nolapic_timer clocksource=jiffies" [05:32] Bashing-om: http://paste.openstack.org/show/729204/ [05:34] gt8ost4l: Yep . remember to update grub once the file is saved . ( make a back up before editing ) [05:36] Bashing-om: are you certain positively i dont want to run into problems [05:37] viveksoni: Humm ,, plenty of space in the drive ,, and it is not out of inodes either. Where is the action taking place ? [05:37] aws ec2 instance [05:38] that cronjobs is running one ruby script [05:38] gt8ost4l: Nope ! No idea why you are making these kernel calls . [05:39] which is fetch pdf and storing it, extracting data & parsing the data and then data is stored in DB and then pdf is removed [05:39] Bashing-om: its todo because i have to bash ill break it down [05:39] F, [2018-08-30T01:05:06.191085 #20881] FATAL -- : Message: No space left on device - HC_PDF/cal_2018-08-30-1535591106-190.pdf; [05:39] D [05:40] viveksoni: Sotty, do not know enough about an ec2 instance - got enough ram allocated to it ? [05:41] Bashing-om: the "intel_idle.max_cstate=1 is forthe freezing and nolapic_timer clocksource=jiffies is for the audio stuttering [05:41] if i have an rsync operation running in tmux, can i log out and back on and it should still be working, correct? [05:42] madLyfe: i dont think so [05:42] unless you mean tmux on another computer [05:43] tmux in a terminal that ive started on this user [05:43] Bashing-om:http://paste.openstack.org/show/729205/ [05:43] mbuf: update your system to latest, 16.04.5 is out [05:44] lotuspsychje, yes, but, apt-update is not finishing for me to do apt-get upgrade next [05:44] mbuf: can you hastebin: sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade plz? [05:44] lotuspsychje, sure, hold on! [05:47] lotuspsychje, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/ghRcPHKq6j/ === mouses is now known as mous === mous is now known as mouses [05:48] lotuspsychje, it is getting stuck at repo.saltstack.com? I can disable it and re-try? [05:49] mbuf: yeah try to disable all external ppa's and see what happens after sudo apt update after [05:50] mbuf: chome ppa is not default either [05:50] chrome [05:50] gt8ost4l: If you are unsure of the effectivness of a boot parameter, one can test from grub. [05:51] lotuspsychje, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/q9DxmrJRGP/ [05:53] !sources | mbuf [05:53] mbuf: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories. [05:53] mbuf: the ppa purge your external ppa's, those mirror.txt repos should also not be there [05:53] try [05:53] !ppapurge | mbuf [05:53] mbuf: To disable a PPA from your sources and revert your packages back to default Ubuntu packages, install ppa-purge and use the command: « sudo ppa-purge ppa:/ » – For more information, see http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html [05:56] lotuspsychje, I was actually trying this - https://askubuntu.com/a/779297 [05:58] mbuf: you can try, but i would go for the original ppa's in your sources [05:59] lotuspsychje, I switched them now, and disable chrome repo [06:00] lotuspsychje, now it is stuck at https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/YvbysSZr2M/ [06:00] hmm thats not normal indeed [06:00] mbuf: can i ask, are you behind firewall or router? [06:01] lotuspsychje, yes [06:01] mbuf: could you try a direct connection/cable to your modem please? [06:01] lotuspsychje, using an ISP router [06:01] ah [06:02] mbuf: its because i doubt its .us that lags [06:02] lotuspsychje, can I use "-o Acquire::ForceIPv4=true" with apt update? [06:02] yeah [06:06] hi , by mistake i created file " sudo vim sudo vim some_file " what is location of this file ? [06:07] dudeji: in the current directory [06:08] actually i gave my path to sudo vim sudo vim /etc/systemd/system/some_file === r0Oter is now known as r00ter [06:10] dudeji: i think it would create 3 files consecutively, the first one called "sudo" in the current directory [06:20] is there a way to enable brightness controls on a desktop without a custom script [06:20] i.e. in Settings [06:20] 18.04 [06:20] lotuspsychje, EriC^^ https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/QqmGzx84jR/ [06:21] let me try a direct Internet connection [06:21] Hello, can you please verify that this binary package is correctly built? [06:21] https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic/amd64/duplicity/download [06:22] if I download it and unpack the binary with the archiver to /tmp/ and than run /tmp/duplicity -V I get this output [06:22] duplicity 0.7.02 [06:22] but deja-dup on Ubuntu 18.04 requires duplicity >= 0.7.14 [06:25] when i install duplicity via apt it's 0.7.17 [06:26] lotuspsychje, with direct Internet connection, it is still stuck at "xenial-backports/universe Translation-en". I tried apt-get update on a different Ubuntu 16.04.1 VM and it was fine. Something is messed up on this system. How can I build the packages and repo list from scratch? [06:27] dw1: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:duplicity-team/ppa && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade [06:28] and the deb from that site says 0.7.17 too [06:28] dw1: how is it possible that it shows for me always 0.7.02 [06:28] also if download it from that site? [06:28] 0.7.17 > 0.7.14 -> just add the ppa and upgrade [06:29] maybe the binary ships two versions which are loaded depending on some setting or dependencies? [06:29] Not sure where the problem is [06:29] the package site says 0.7.17 [06:29] weird [06:29] mouses: which ppa? [06:29] dw1: yeah, took me a min [06:29] just install the deb tokam [06:29] why extract manually [06:29] I meant tokam, not dw1 [06:29] Sorry, confused a couple names - going to find coffee now [06:29] if I download the binary from the package site and extract it it still says 0.7.02 [06:30] tokam: try just installing with apt [06:30] ducasse: I did this several times [06:31] tokam: and what happened? [06:31] 0.7.02 [06:31] I installed the .deb now but it still says I have 0.7.02 [06:32] you can't always trust the version number the binary spits out, as ubuntu often backports and adds patches [06:33] also i extracted the .deb and the binary says 0.7.17 [06:33] do updatedb then locate duplicity [06:33] maybe you installed an old one [06:34] and which duplicity [06:34] use 'apt policy package' to get the version number of the package [06:34] tokam: have you installed 0.7.02 manually somewhere before this? [06:34] e.g. in /usr/local? [06:34] acheronuk: I removed all duplicity installations [06:35] and when I extract the binary from the .deb and call it in /tmp/ it still tells me about version 0.7.02 [06:35] what about apt install --reinstall duplicity [06:35] I now will try to install from the ppa [06:35] https://launchpad.net/~duplicity-team/+archive/ubuntu/ppa [06:35] dw1: I did all this [06:35] tokam: what's the full filename of the .deb? [06:36] https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic/amd64/duplicity/download [06:36] this .deb [06:36] now things are getting weird :( [06:36] I installed version 0.7.18 from the ppa [06:36] but it still shows 0.7.02 to me :( [06:37] what does 'which duplicity' in terminal say [06:37] /usr/bin/duplicity [06:37] but if I call it I get this output [06:37] -bash: /usr/local/bin/duplicity: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden [06:37] so if I create a symlink [06:37] restart your terminal [06:37] ln -s /usr/bin/duplicity /usr/local/bin/duplicity [06:37] I can run it [06:38] dw1: without a symlink in a new terminal I can run it now. [06:38] but I get [06:38] tokam@localhost:~$ duplicity -V [06:38] duplicity 0.7.02 [06:39] remove the one in local [06:39] and restart terminal [06:39] it is removed [06:39] do I need to restart the computer? (which is very unusual on ubuntu) [06:39] no [06:41] what can I do, where does the output 0.7.02 come from? [06:41] as a version spec? [06:42] brb [06:42] updatedb && locate duplicity [06:42] | grep bin [06:42] ok [06:43] tokam: it comes from the 0.7.02 version you clearly still have installed somewhere [06:43] https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/BkgzXbWz9r/ [06:44] brb [06:48] dw1: tokam may still have the python from 0.7.02 installed in a place that is taking precedence over the newer python from the .deb [06:49] i.e. the binary would normally get the version from /usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/duplicity/globals.py [06:49] :o [06:49] must be it [07:05] Whenever I move my mouse on my new laptop. I am spammed with this in dmesg... [07:05] [54907.763387] i2c_hid i2c-ALP0018:00: i2c_hid_get_input: incomplete report (30/2) [07:05] However, mouse seem to work normally. Does not happen when I use external mouse [07:05] HP Elitebook G5 [07:12] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1784152 [07:12] Launchpad bug 1784152 in linux (Ubuntu) "i2c_hid_get_input floods system logs" [Undecided,Confirmed] [07:13] "it was solved when i changed on BIOS the Touchpad option from Advanced to Basic Features." [07:36] OK thanks I will have a look :) [07:37] it still shows duplicaity 0.07.02 [07:37] 0.7.02 === Richard is now known as Guest14316 [08:37] sd/win 2 [09:14] i installed xscreensaver on 18.04 but vlc & smplayer doesnt seem to block screensaver even the settings say it will prevent, some ideas where to look for that? [09:15] i use caffine myself [09:16] life without caffeine is pointless [09:17] it is a great screen blanker blocker. [09:17] TxTablet1: did you try it? [09:18] but ppf is so true [09:18] yes i am running it on my computer now. [09:19] i just need to remeber to turn it off when i am not using it. [09:20] TxTablet1: no, didnt block on caffeine neither here [09:22] you started it and then adjusted the settings on the taskbar [09:23] TxTablet1: what settings [09:23] click on the coffee cup [09:23] and turn it one [09:23] on [09:26] if it is not working then. i not sure. just telling you it works for me. i am not a pro with the new ubuntu. [09:26] what about gnome-screensaver instead? [09:27] TxTablet1: coffeecup is active, no dice [09:27] ppf: gnome-screensaver isnt installed by default on bionic anymore [09:27] but xscreensaver is? [09:27] no, i installed it manually [09:28] i have gl matrix enabled [09:28] seems to override all movie players here [09:28] how to get systemd-resolve to dockerized ubuntu ? [09:28] muhaha: can you rephrase the question? [09:29] ppf: dockerized ubuntu does not use systemd also systemd-resolve which I need to use with shadowsocks [09:30] maybe I can use dnsmasq ? [09:31] i thought it did anyway. that's how ive seen it done (at least, docker through kubernetes - uses skydns on the masters and dnsmasq for service resolution) [09:32] lotuspsychje, got it fixed! I searched for the error "hash mismatch" and found that it could be a connection to the server. I let Software Centre choose the best mirror, and after changing the mirror, "apt-get update" worked fine. [09:33] lotuspsychje, thanks for your help! [09:33] muhaha: can you no just run resolved? [09:33] mbuf: your welcome [09:35] lotuspsychje, is it recommended to upgrade to Bionic? [09:35] mbuf: if you system is ready for it,yes [09:35] lotuspsychje, okay, thanks! [09:35] !ltsupgrade | mbuf [09:35] mbuf: Upgrade from 16.04 to 18.04.1 is now available, if you do not receive the upgrade window try update-manager -c [09:36] mbuf: backup your data before and plugin power adapter :p [09:36] ppf: what? [09:36] lotuspsychje, will do [09:36] muhaha: ? [09:37] ppf [09:37] muhaha: can you no just run resolved? [09:37] ya. if dnsmasq isn't available already, can you just run resolved? [09:42] ppf: what package name exactly? [09:43] muhaha: it's part of systemd [09:44] ppf: ah, like i said, ubuntu image is completly without systemd... integrate it back would be a really mess [09:45] i will try dnsmasq ... Like if I use 127.0.0.1:53 as DNS server, it should forward all requests to servers in /etc/resolf.conf ? [09:46] er, no [09:46] the other way around [09:46] if you set 127.0.0.1:53 in /etc/resolv.conf, it forwards all requests to dnsmasq [09:50] ah :( Here is a thing.. I am using SNX (Checkpoint VPN) which sets DNS servers to /etc/resolv.conf and I am also using shadowsocks-libev server, but seems that it is not working correctly without systemd-resolve, I will not read nameservers directly from /etc/resolv.conf. So I need way to let SNX setup servers to dnsmasq and then let shadowsocks s [09:50] erver use 127.0.0.53 as DNS server [09:52] sure, that works [09:52] how switch onboard to greek [09:59] ppf: can not :( snx is proprietary sw .. lol [09:59] any idea how to run a dnsmasq to look in /etc/resolv.conf ? :d [10:15] muhaha: why? that'd be recursive [10:40] how doing [10:47] how changing onboard language into greek [10:56] Hiyas all === w0dencafe is now known as wodencafe [11:36] testing am i registered and identified (can talk now in this room?) [11:38] jonnno: we see you [11:39] guys can anyone tell me where i can ask about what version linux is gud (low resource using) for my old laptop (Sony VAIO VGN-FW26G/B 4G ram core 2 duo P8600 CPU [11:40] thanks mon lotuspsychje [11:41] ive tried ' /list ' no luck [11:41] jonnno: try an ubuntu version from our topic [11:42] ok a flavour of ubuntu which one uses least resources [11:42] jonnno: lubuntu or xubuntu is lightweight [11:42] (from our topic what u mean-guessing u mean the question is off topic yeah? [11:42] thank you [11:43] jonnno: no the topic is ontop, when you enter the channel you see several supported ubuntu versions [11:48] jonnno: ubuntu 18.04 has also now a minimal option in the setup [11:54] thats great to know thank you very much was just cooking the wife dinner [11:56] would that be minimal installation of various apps or low use of ram/resources or both and why please [11:57] jonnno: its the users choice really, a normal lubuntu install surely will suit your system..but if you really want it minimal, choose minimal to save space on your hd also [11:58] jonnno: just keep in mind installing minimal would make you install all kinds of other things manually [11:59] thats cool i usually end up using sudo apt-get install* heaps of times even on the full version [12:00] jonnno, just fyi: i prefer xubuntu (which isn't as light as lubuntu) just because it's my preference... the apps/programs you use can also cause a drop in performance (eg. using qt/kde apps under a non-qt system like xubuntu/lubuntu will waste memory & resources as the GUI/DEsktop uses one set, the app uses different libs..) so a lighter DEsktop choice may not work if using non-native programs/apps... just an fyi. [12:03] thank you [12:04] you two are sending replies to my username whats that command im have a mental blank or a link to an irc chat command cheatlist [12:04] please [12:04] !tab | jonnno [12:04] jonnno: You can use your key for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line. [12:05] !tab | jonno [12:05] jonno: You can use your key for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line. [12:05] just use the name of the person you want to address in the text line.. jonnno [12:05] lmao [12:05] thank you [12:05] jonnno: type the first few letters of my name then press TAB [12:05] like terminal for auto completer [12:05] complete [12:06] lotuspsychje, test [12:06] lotuspsychje test [12:06] not sure if that was correct does it show up as intended on ur screen [12:06] not on mine [12:06] jonnno: it works [12:07] cool thank you [12:07] Jonno_FTW, laughs [12:08] jonnno laughs [12:08] jonnno, try "/me laughs" [12:08] jonnno: we try to focus here on ubuntu support questions only, try #ubuntu-offtopic for other chat [12:08] * jonnno laughs [12:08] nice [12:08] sorry lotuspsychje [12:08] thank u both [12:09] clea [12:09] clear [12:09] im off sorry and bye all === Plasmoduck is now known as plasmoducl === plasmoducl is now known as plasmoduck [12:34] hey [12:34] so i updated my kernel [12:34] which was a mistake [12:34] how exactly should i downgrade? [12:34] does grub just autoselect the latest one? if so, do i remove the newer ones? if yes, then how [12:34] duoi: some details please? [12:34] lotuspsychje, newer kernel doesnt support my wireless network card [12:35] duoi: kernel version? chipset? [12:36] lotuspsychje, the newer one is 4.10 [12:36] duoi: wich ubuntu version are you on exactly? [12:38] lotuspsychje, 16.04 [12:38] !info linux-image-generic xenial [12:38] linux-image-generic (source: linux-meta): Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version 4.4.0.134.140 (xenial), package size 2 kB, installed size 14 kB [12:39] duoi: it doesnt seem you are on the right version, lsb_release -a please? [12:39] lotuspsychje, i manually updated the kernel to something not necessarily supported [12:39] i was hoping it would have fixed my gpu issues [12:39] and there we go [12:39] "something that's not supported, please support me" [12:39] ikonia, oh please [12:39] ? [12:39] so i updated my kernel [12:39] which was a mistake [12:39] first thing [12:40] i know i fucked up, im not asking you to hold my hand, im just asking how to safely remove the newer kernel [12:40] tone down the langauge [12:40] sure, hopefully you also contain your attitude [12:41] there is no attitude [12:41] okay [12:43] duoi: your ubuntu release please? === dbugger_ is now known as Dbugger [12:46] lotuspsychje, it's okay, a bit of googling told me that i just need to `apt-get remove` the binaries and i should be good to go. it would update grub and so on itself, apparently. [12:46] about to reboot and give it a shot :) [12:48] lotuspsychje, worked as intended! thank you so much for your help either way :) [12:49] duoi: on ubuntu, just update your system next time [12:52] i blame amd for their terrible drivers [12:52] but youre right [12:53] this machine hasnt been booted up in over a year so i left a trail of destruction without realising it [12:54] duoi, that explains a little; 4.10 reached EOL in Ubuntu (17.04) back in Jan-2018... [13:10] I just had a power outage and after booting the system again I realized that one of the files I was working on is gone -- the file is there but it's empty. any tips on recovering it? [13:12] hi, is thunderbird 60.0 prepared? [13:12] osa1: you could try recovering the file with photorec [13:12] osa1: and filter on the filetype you lost [13:14] !latest | brli_ [13:14] brli_: Packages in Ubuntu may not be the latest. Ubuntu aims for stability, so "latest" may not be a good idea. Post-release updates are only considered if they are fixes for security vulnerabilities, high impact bug fixes, or unintrusive bug fixes with substantial benefit. See also !backports, !sru, and !ppa. [13:15] lotuspsychje: I understand, however, even thunderbird-next ppa doesn't have it :/ [13:16] brli_: we dont support external ppa's here, try to stick to the official ubuntu repos or !backports or snaps [13:16] okay, thank you. [13:16] brli_: snap has the thunderbird 58.0b3 version if you like [13:16] (though the TB-next ppa is maintained by official mozilla team anyway. [13:17] brli_: then contact the mozilla team for questions about it [13:17] okay, thank you. [13:17] so i though thunderbird was discontinued [13:32] ppf, TB is still in the repos === pavlushka_ is now known as pavlushka [13:52] hello [13:54] welcome shelton how can we help you? [13:55] i am new to ubuntu i want an advise on how to get a grisp of linux [13:55] what should i do first ? [13:58] shelton: you mean learn ubuntu, or install ubuntu? [14:00] I upgraded to 18.04. The keyboard number panel is dead. Help [14:01] shelton: http://a.co/d/3dQfZd2 This is the book that helped me get started [14:01] lotuspsychje: learn ubuntu [14:01] leftyfb: many thanks [14:15] Raising hand [14:16] Hello [14:17] !ask | Satantat [14:17] Satantat: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience [14:17] Thank you [14:18] How do I broadcast with my webcam on Firefox and chromium? [14:18] Satantat: broadcast? [14:19] Yes for rooms like zoom [14:19]