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[00:00] <wxl> maybe we could add it to software-properties but i doubt k'd like that
[00:01] <wxl> ubuntu-drivers-common will do the trick but only in cli
[00:02] <wxl> whatever happened to jockey?
[00:02] <acheronuk> software-proporties-gtk has the additional drivers tab, so can't be too hard to add to the Qt port?
[00:03] <wxl> that's what i'm thinking, except for the fact that i'm thinking kubuntu wouldn't necessarily appreciate it being there 
[00:03] <wxl> or maybe it's better that way and you can get rid of kubuntu-driver-manager
[00:04] <acheronuk> or you could have it only appear depending on what DE is running?
[00:04] <wxl> well, i don't know. having one less special package to manage might be good for k
[00:05] <acheronuk> but we would lost integration in our systemsettings
[00:05] <wxl> true enough
[00:05] <wxl> but you don't have that with software-properties do you?
[00:06]  * wxl could just look, as he's on kubuntu, but nooooo
[00:06] <wxl> yeah no software sources
[00:06] <wxl> s/sources/properties/
[00:07] <acheronuk> wxl: earier, did you meant software-proprties-qt in cosmic did not launch from Muon?
[00:07] <wxl> acheronuk: from lubuntu/lxqt, correct. it just sits and spins. haven't tried in kubuntu daily yet.
[00:09] <wxl> ah so software-properties replaced jockey, or rather expanded upon its functionality
[00:09] <acheronuk> wxl: works in kubuntu. will have top look into that. missing muon dep perhaps top facilitae, which is there as default in kubuntu
[00:09] <acheronuk> *to facilitate
[00:10] <wxl> ugh well i guess i'll have to take your word for it. in vbox i'm booting to blank screen in kubuntu
[00:10] <wxl> most likely a virtualbox problem......
[00:13] <wxl> hahah took nomodeset
[00:13] <acheronuk> Muon uses kdesu for launch/authentication
[00:13] <acheronuk> in kubuntu, anyway
[00:14] <wxl> i ran muon from cli but didn't get anything. maybe i'll strace
[00:23] <wxl> no real errors at all except for the fact it can't find /var/cache/apt-xapian-index/index.2/aimchert
[00:24] <wxl> strace -e trace=open,stat,read,write muon 2>&1 | grep ' E'
[00:25] <acheronuk> wxl: what happens if you install kde-cli-tools?
[00:26] <wxl> oooh
[00:26] <wxl> that's it
[00:27] <wxl> so it's probably kdesu
[00:27] <acheronuk> wxl: did it pull in much deps for lubuntu?
[00:27] <wxl> no
[00:27] <acheronuk> ok. I'll add it as a dep for Muon then
[00:28] <acheronuk> it's a dep of plasma-desktop. so kubuntu always has it
[00:32] <wxl> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Brtm5BWZqH
[00:36] <ckrzen> Hello. Is the BlueDevil applet not working in the current-daily iso? I can launch bluedevil-wizard from the cli and see devices but love in the systray/indicator tray.
[00:36] <ckrzen> %s/love/no love/
[00:36] <acheronuk> wxl: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/muon/4:5.8.0-1ubuntu4
[00:36] <wxl> ckrzen: bluetooth is on our TODO list to look into
[00:36] <ckrzen> gotch'a ... thanks
[00:37] <wxl> acheronuk: boooo
[00:37] <acheronuk> wxl: why?
[00:37] <wxl> oh it's a good step but if we can figure out how to do it without kdesu that might be nice
[00:37]  * wxl shrugs
[00:38] <ckrzen> @wxl Also, I've figured-out how to do "apt pinning" to get the daily builds of lxqt from cosmic into my bionic. Wasn't too hard after learning to touch three files in /etc/apt/ !!
[00:39] <wxl> it's bizarre to me that muon seems to run fine on its own and install stuff, yadda yadda but just poops out running software-properties
[00:39] <wxl> ckrzen: apt pinning is fun :)
[00:42] <acheronuk> wxl: in Muon QAptActions::runSourcesEditor() wants kdesu. not anything else
[00:42] <wxl> ic
[00:42] <wxl> then thanks :)
[00:43] <acheronuk> maybe that can be pkexec or something with some effort, but *shrug*
[00:43] <wxl> right
[00:43] <wxl> ^^ @tsimonq2 not sure you care if we require kdesu now, but we do.
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 o lubuntu 18.10 nao tem suporte para driver 340 nvidia ?
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[16:41] <wxl> @luca_aleksandr you mean you're looking for features beyond what nouveau offers?
[17:36] <lubot5> <Hans Möller> @luca_aleksandr, That has more to do with the Kernel than with the distribution
[17:42] <lubot5> <Hans Möller> I don't know how is it with 340 but 304 isn't supported in Kernel 4.15