[00:19] Is there a way to make a GUI application keep running if I log out and back in such that I can get it back graphically in the new session? [00:21] no [00:22] OK, thanks. [00:40] ChaiTRex: actually, you can. if you use something like xpra (it's basically screen for X apps) [00:48] forgotmynick, urg sendmail, can't you use postfix or exim, both of which have pretty simple options to use only ipv4? [00:48] forgotmynick, I did find https://www.autonarcosis.com/2015/10/14/sendmail-how-to-disable-ipv6-when-sendingrelaying/ [00:48] forgotmynick, but I cannot vouch for it... [00:50] anyone using steamplay on ubuntu know where the .net downloads go when installing a game? === techmagus_ is now known as techmagus [01:19] hi [01:19] people I've a question about how to create a new partition for ubuntu [01:21] neverkas, i find `gparted` (a gui tool) the easiest way to create partitions [01:22] yep I know but I wanted to practice the commands lines on linux xD [01:22] :V [01:22] What commands [01:22] You can do fdisk, cfdisk, parted, gdisk, few others [01:23] yep, but I can't change the size of my disk [01:23] Sure you can, if you unmount it first [01:23] neverkas, is the partition you are trying to change size on mounted? (you need to umount first) [01:24] yep, but how can I do it? I mean I started as recovery mode [01:24] if it's a needed partition; a 'live' system (install media) is an easy work around to adjust size of normal partitions [01:24] recovery mode should do it, it might chroot root you so you have to unmount [01:24] HellFire: Thanks. I'll look into xpra. [01:25] I didn't understand at all. [01:26] Maybe you shouldn't be doing whatever you are doing then [01:26] ?? [01:26] If you use LVM you can resize on the fly [01:27] I'm trying to use a virtualbox first in order to not break nothing [01:28] :( [01:32] mm so, I read that it's dangerous what I tried to do, is it right? I mean I tried to use gparted before but I cant resize my partitions [01:33] its always dangerous if you don't know what you doing, you also got to think about if there is any filesystems on it so you have to resize those too [01:34] growing partitions is pretty easy though [01:34] mm [01:35] I wanted to resize one of my partitions because I've ubuntu 12.04 and I'd like to upgrade it to 16 [01:35] parted & gparted should not be used to change the partition size of a mounted partition. i use it regularly, but usually from a live system. if power goes off etc you risk a corrupted disk (the main danger), so backups should always be done. here is a parted howto https://www.gnu.org/software/parted/manual/html_chapter/parted_2.html [01:36] yep [01:36] I was reading that link [01:36] Why do you need to resize to upgrade? [01:37] because I installed this ubuntu some time ago but I didn't separate /home and / [01:38] so I didn't want to loss all that I've [01:39] I don't see why you have to resize to do that though, you can just do 12.04 > 14.04 > 16.04 [01:41] So there's no matter if I don't have /home for my things and / for the s.o.? Although that can I upgrade to 14.04 and 16.04? [01:42] sry if my english is not the best xD :v [01:42] I don't do a separate home, that just upsets me if I got a lot of space in /home but I need to install stuff elsewhere [01:42] I can see why it would be preferable though, You could just reinstall the OS on top of itself and mount the old /home without having to backup [01:43] ahhh ok [01:43] But yeah you can upgrade without messing things up [01:43] uff thanks a lot, so I'll upgrade :D === FlyBot_t is now known as FlyBot [02:38] Hi there! [02:38] Can anyone help me set Avahi up? [02:38] I can avahi-resolve myself on other devices, but pinging is a no-go. [02:39] Of course, pinging on the device itself works like a charm. [02:39] Any ideas guys? [02:39] (erm, and gals) [02:41] Is there some channel that might be more suitable for my question? [02:42] ... or ... a guide that might help me? === Dreaman is now known as Blade [02:46] marshwallow: can you "avahi-resolve-host-name the_hostname", replacing 'the_hostname' by the devices' host name? [02:46] Yeah, that works like a charm. [02:47] WAIT. [02:47] Sorry. [02:47] the_hostname.local works, but the_hostname doesn't. [02:48] marshwallow: i *think* that's to be expected, but not sure. it's the same here. [02:51] Hmm, is the ping error expected behavior too? [02:51] marshwallow: pinging agains tthe ip address should work, if it's on the same subnet and there's no firewalling involved [02:53] Yeah, it works, but `ping the_hostname.local` doesn't. Am I misinterpreting the purpose of Avahi? [02:55] ... or is my daemon just not properly configured? [02:56] marshwallow: i assume that mdns4_minimal is just off by default in /etc/nsswitch.conf sinc eit causes issues for people who use the .local TLD for other (conflicting) purposes. this discusses how to enable it: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemd/+bug/1641328 [02:56] Launchpad bug 1641328 in nss-mdns (Ubuntu Yakkety) "Ordering of mdns4_minimal and resolve in /etc/nsswitch.conf causes mDNS lookups to fail -- breaks network printing" [Medium,Triaged] [02:58] with mdns lookups disabled you can still use avahi for announcing local services on the LAN, so it's not without purpose that way [03:01] Actually, my 'hosts' line looks like this: [03:01] hosts: files mdns4_minimal [NOTFOUND=return] resolve [!UNAVAIL=return] dns myhostname [03:02] ... which was mentioned somewhere as a fix to this issue. [03:03] Oh, will try with the reorder mentioned in the linked bug report. [03:04] Nope, nope, nope. That's the "proper" order. [03:05] It's late and I'm kinda sleepy. Forgive me for my stupidity. [03:08] Nevermind, nevermind, nevermind. [03:08] Seems like I did something. [03:08] Or it worked from the beginning. [03:09] Pinging the_hostname from an intranet device works neatly. [03:10] http://the_hostname:8000 (yeah, I'm trying to reach my Django server) works in Chrome as well. S-weet! [03:14] Well, thanks for help! [03:17] are there any tutorials on isntalling windows firefox via wine? I've tried playonlinux and get font errors, and pure wine I get minimemorydumplist and getstream errors [03:17] I am trying to write some content to file using echo. Somehow it includes some space before each line which is actually not present in actual content. https://pastebin.com/JVWaJg82 [03:24] Hey guys im having tourble connecting to my universities enterprise wpa network, I'ts working fine on my laptop running debian but my desktop is running kububtu, ive got an output file of my journalctr if anyone is interested in taking a look. [03:24] macopython: this syntax is convoluted. take a look at how you can write here documents in bash much more easily: https://mywiki.wooledge.org/HereDocument [03:24] that's unless you're trying to be compatible to more shells, maybe then this is actually needed. [03:26] heres the output https://pastebin.com/5rqNcfmf [03:27] this inparticular seems to be the issues but googleing isnt providing anyway to verifiy it "EAP-TLV: TLV Result - Failure" [03:28] not a networking guy so it doesnt mean much to me [03:28] !seen sebsebseb [03:28] I have no seen command [03:28] ahh damn it [03:29] anyone here remember sebsebseb if so has anyone got contact with him still [03:32] tomreyn: Ohk. I'll check. Thanks [03:34] I just updated my 18.04 server (VPS with Linode) and I received several warning messages to do with cryptsetup and grub: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/BPcKxZVQ5q/. As far as I can tell, none of the partitions are encrypted. Here is the output of blkid: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/3TQmzpM5yY/ and here is my /etc/fstab: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/nhzwKswvKj/. One weird thing I notice is that my fstab references devices (/dev/sda) instead of partitions [03:34] (/dev/sdaX). Is this normal. Should I be worried about anything here? [03:36] Also, here is the output of `parted -l`. I don't see any partitions listed under /dev/sda. [03:36] https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/vBgXB7mK72/ [03:38] i'm surprised ubuntu installed without any hitch on my old 2007 imac [03:40] tefx: they are last identified to nickserv ~ 2w ago. also, in case you have a lunchpad account, there's an e-mail address on https://launchpad.net/%7Esebsebseb [03:43] @tomreyn, thansk my man i also heard he was recently active in #techrights so havign an email for him would be handy thanks for that :D [03:44] welcome [03:44] i just bought this laptop and the win10 seems to work fine (as well as it can be expected considering it's windows), but i can't get lubuntu to connect either on etho or wifi ... bought for my friend and she is going back to costa rica 2morrow and i need to get a dual boot set up for her -- can anyone help me with this connection issue -- https://miami.craigslist.org/pbc/sys/d/dell-inspiron-intel-dualcore/6673067163.html [03:46] duckx0r: i don't see any mention of cryptsetup, dmsetup or luks on these pastes. apparently you have your / file system (ext4) directly on /dev/sda, and sdb is just swap. this prevents installation of grub since there is no master boot record, and no separate bios_grub partition. [03:47] tomreyn, cryptsetup errors are in the first link: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/BPcKxZVQ5q/ [03:47] duckx0r: it's nmot clear how this apparent KVM guest has been booting in the past, though, maybe it doesn't actually depend on a copy of grub stored on these virtual disks but uses one stored elsewhere. [03:48] duckx0r: warnings, right, i missed that they're issued by cryptsetup indeed. [03:48] tomreyn, That would be... weird. [03:52] this is a lot of getting used to [03:52] hi guys, just got back into ubuntu [03:54] duckx0r: actually the 'parted -l' output suggests you have partition table son both virtual storages (sda + sdb)., and swap is on sdb1, so a partition. [03:55] duckx0r: the issue you seem to be experiecing now is that gtrub has grown too much to fit into the MBR, so you'd need a bios_grub partition to boot it nowadays. but you have no partitions on sda, so you can't have it there. what you could do is to add a new, virtual storage and just install grub and the bios_grub partition there. [03:56] tomreyn, Yes. That's what it looks like. I've just never seen a filesystem installed directly on a storage device without using a partition like that. [03:56] duckx0r: that's not too uncommon, especially not in virtualization. [03:56] tomreyn, What would lead you to think that grub doesn't fit into the MBR? [03:57] tomreyn, What if I just remove old images instead of going through all that hassle? [03:58] duckx0r: what does "file /dev/sda" give? [03:58] EriC^^, /dev/sda: block special (8/0) [03:59] duckx0r: try "zgrep blocklist /var/log/apt/term.log.*" [03:59] EriC^^, empty [04:00] duckx0r: i guess the requirement to have a bios_grub partition (and the reasoning provided for it) if you're bios booting nowadays, as well as the message on line 20 + 24 of https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/BPcKxZVQ5q/ [04:02] duckx0r: how about "zgrep 'Installing for i386-pc' /var/log/apt/term.log.*" [04:03] EriC^^, empty as well [04:03] so it's never actually updated grub-pc before [04:03] i just bought this laptop and the win10 seems to work fine (as well as it can be expected considering it's windows), but i can't get lubuntu to connect either on etho or wifi ... bought for my friend and she is going back to costa rica 2morrow and i need to get a dual boot set up for her -- can anyone help me with this connection issue -- https://miami.craigslist.org/pbc/sys/d/dell-inspiron-intel-dualcore/6673067163.html [04:03] duckx0r: maybe they just have a special way of booting as tomreyn mentioned before, and there's nothing to worry about [04:05] EriC^^, Well let's give it a try rebooting... I'll try my least mission-critical server first (since I have 3 and the same thing happened with all of them). [04:05] it doesn't seem to recognize any wifi signals, and direct connect doesn't connect using a live-dvd, although it connects fine in windows - i don't know whether to proceed with side-by-side install without a connection for the process [04:07] Well it rebooted fine. Thank you guys for your help. [04:08] EriC^^ and tomreyn [04:08] duckx0r: welcome. [04:10] duckx0r: maybe take a look at https://askubuntu.com/questions/500359/efi-boot-partition-and-biosgrub-partition/501360 - i think this gives a good overview about how grub booting normally works nowadays- [04:10] tomreyn, Will do. Thanks [04:16] i just bought this laptop and the win10 seems to work fine (as well as it can be expected considering it's windows), but i can't get lubuntu to connect either on etho or wifi ... bought for my friend and she is going back to costa rica 2morrow and i need to get a dual boot set up for her -- can anyone help me with this connection issue -- https://miami.craigslist.org/pbc/sys/d/dell-inspiron-intel-dualcore/6673067163.html [04:16] it doesn't seem to recognize any wifi signals, and direct connect doesn't connect using a live-dvd, although it connects fine in windows - i don't know whether to proceed with side-by-side install without a connection for the process [04:18] mikubuntu: check maybe you need the firmware [04:19] to get the wifi and ethernet working. [04:19] type dmesg and see if is coming up. [04:20] Aaron: would you say i should just go ahead with the install off the dvd, and then deal with firmware/driver issues? [04:21] Yeah [04:21] try installing the firmware-nonfree to a USB [04:21] so you can install it in the installation to see if it does the trick. [04:25] Aaron: sorry din't see your responses [04:25] Aaron: let me try the dmesg [04:26] ok [04:29] mikubuntu: can you give us " lspci | grep Network' [04:31] Aaron: sorry taking so long -- touchpad seems really unresponsive so i'm having trouble scrolling through all the output from dmesg, although i did see something about firmware for broadcom b43 failing to load [04:31] yeah get the firmware-nonfree [04:31] and install it [04:31] ledeni: let me try [04:32] and you'll be good. [04:32] aren't PCs usually easy to install ubuntu? [04:32] cim209: yes [04:32] i installed ubuntu mate on this 2007 imac just fine [04:32] Aaron: should i go ahead and proceed with the installation with no connection, and THEN do the firmware thing? [04:32] everything works, bluetooth, wifi, etc. [04:32] mikubuntu: yeah if you'll like. [04:33] put the firmware-nonfree to a pendrive and later install it [04:33] aaron: can it go on a dvd if i don't have a usb handy? [04:34] is a very small file. [04:34] but if you want to install in into a cd go ahead. [04:35] ledeni: i can't find that straight up/down slash mark on the keyboard [04:37] mikubuntu: lol shift + \ [04:38] ledeni: i think i need to find the touchpad preferences first .. lol [04:39] Aaron: and ledeni , to complicate things, i need to do this install in ESPANOL ... lol [04:40] mikubuntu: #ubuntu-es [04:40] !spanish [04:40] En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro. [04:43] I installed Ubuntu 18.04. I am new to Linux. I do not understand in which folder it is best to extract new software when the application is provided in a compressed file. Can anyone assist? Which folders are not administrator-protected without just dropping things in something such as Documents or even Home? [04:44] AKA where extract compressed application? [04:44] downloads folder is always a destination for me [04:44] instantp10neer: define software. it's highly variable. [04:45] e. g. a Thunderbird nightly [04:45] Oh, those. [04:45] You can extract official Mozilla tarballs to any directory and then run their main executable from their directory. [04:45] an entire application in a compressed file, not available in the repos [04:46] I understand 'it can go anywhere.' I am hoping there is something akin to Microsoft's "Program Files" [04:46] I suppose there is under something like ~/.local. [04:47] There is no official way to resolve it. It goes wherever you want it in this case. [04:47] Because it's not a system level tarball. [04:48] 18.04 appears to protect /usr/local and /opt/ which means I need admin privileges to extract. [04:48] there's a good reason for that... [04:49] you don't want to be messing with system files if you're not sure what you're doing. [04:49] Aaron: i'd feel better getting assistance in english, maybe i should just do the install in english and then add language packs later? [04:49] ryuo That is my point. I am trying to find an unprotected location that is not already in use, such as Program Files and now Downloads. [04:50] instantp10neer: So make one then. You can create ~/Programs or w/e. [04:50] That's not reserved by anything. [04:50] ryuo are you saying you know that Ubuntu doesn't already provision something? [04:50] ryuo is trying to say you can make any directory [04:50] mikubuntu: sure [04:51] instantp10neer: basically, yes. I've use Linux as a power user since 2008. I don't know of any such location. Even my GOG games install themselves to ~/GOG Games [04:51] I am aware something can be made. That I understand. The question is if something was predetermined akin to Microsoft's "Program Files." [04:51] OK. [04:51] Applications it is. [04:51] liek macs [04:52] Do I have the path character limit, 256~ characters? [04:52] User installations of programs are not forced to use any particular approach. [04:52] Yes, but you're unlikely to hit it. [04:52] Each file can be up to 255 characters, the whole path 4096. [04:52] OK Great. Thank you [04:52] +rep ryuo :) [04:53] Aaron: at this point in the installation, i remember ubuntu used to ask me if i wanted to erase disk and rewrite, or it would recognize another system installed and ask me if i wanted to do a side-by-side install, but it's not asking me that now [04:53] these are enforced by filesystem limitations. [04:53] not much you can do about it. [04:53] mikubuntu: you want to not erase the hard drive just add a partition in GB [04:54] Though you can have characters in a Linux file name that you can't with windows. [04:54] I believe the only forbidden characters are / and NUL. [04:54] so you can later multi boot with Ubuntu to use Windows [04:55] you should live dangerously and just have ubuntu as the only OS [04:55] instantp10neer: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ext4 [04:55] instantp10neer: see here for some info about the FS you're likely using. [04:55] so i just transferred a bunch of data to a network drive. 800GB worth. is there a way to compare the data from source to network drive? [04:57] how did you transfer it [04:59] rsync [04:59] but there were some 'hiccups', lets call them. [04:59] Aaron: so it's a samsung 250 gb hdd, should i make a 150 gb partition for lubuntu? (win 10 seems to be using about 500 mb of space right now) [04:59] madLyfe: it checksums the data while copying, what hiccups? [04:59] just wanna compare them. i know it will take a while but im ok with that [04:59] mikubuntu: sure. if you'll like [05:00] well only if you tell it to checksum [05:00] madLyfe: no it checksums by default [05:01] i had it error out a few times before completing. just want to make sure. [05:01] madLyfe: you can generate a checksum file for all the files and compare the copy to the original that way. [05:01] madLyfe: ok, run "md5sum /dir > /tmp/md5sum" [05:02] EriC^^: won't work. it has to specify actual files. [05:02] madLyfe: then modify the /tmp/md5sum and run md5sum -c using it on the 2nd dir to compare [05:03] madLyfe: change directory to the root dir of the original. run this: [05:03] madLyfe: find /dir -exec md5sum {} \; > /tmp/md5sum [05:03] find -type f -print0 | xargs -0 sha256sum > ../sha256sums [05:04] Hi guys... anyone knows how to proceed when you have the error in syslog "Microcode SW error detected" and this causes small interruptions? Not sure if I should create a ticket in a bug tracker or ask a question on Stack Overflow. This is the syslog when the issue occurs: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/jgVP4fRmwx/ [05:04] ryuo: maybe he doesn't have write permission to ".." ? [05:04] also isn't sha256 a little overkill? [05:04] Aaron: so it's telling me that the current usage is 575 mb ntfs of win10, and 249481 mb unknown -- could you walk me through the partitioning process? [05:04] EriC^^: Possibly. who knows. [05:04] !partition [05:04] For help with partitioning a new install see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowtoPartition | For partitioning programs, see !GParted (recommended) or !PartitionManager. Other partitioning topics include !fstab, !home, and !swap [05:04] EriC^^: maybe, but I use it for sanity checks. [05:05] md5sum has known hash collisions. [05:05] mikubuntu: right now I'm using FreeBSD [05:06] Aaron: you'll have trouble. FreeBSD doesn't have much support for Linux filesystems. [05:06] If you need to work with those... [05:06] yeah I'm afraid [05:07] so i just need to navigate to the dir i want the hash of? [05:07] you should boot from a live CD if you need to work with them. [05:07] I'm thinking of Installing Ubuntu. and FreeBSD in the same partition [05:07] madLyfe: nah, type "find /path/to/dir -exec md5sum {} \; > /tmp/md5sum" [05:07] madLyfe: if you run my version, it will setup the paths relative to the original, making it easy to run checksum -c later. [05:08] Otherwise... if the absolute paths are different on the destination... [05:08] you'll run into trouble. [05:08] you'd need to adjust the paths. [05:08] madLyfe: then type "sed -i 's/\/path\/to\/dir/\/path\/to\/2nd\/dir/' /tmp/md5sum" and run "md5sum -c /tmp/md5sum" [05:09] ok, use ryuo 's command, it's easier [05:09] and also omit directories. [05:09] i'd use md5sum though if the difference in computation is significantly lower [05:09] and other stuff that md5sum won't like. [05:10] i'm afraid i'm not capable of understanding the partitioning instructions for new install (side-by-side with Win10) as described at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowtoPartition [05:10] i think sha256 is 10x longer according to a quick "time" test i did now [05:10] mikubuntu: are you installing both fresh? [05:10] if there's anyone who could help me through this i would so appreciate [05:10] EriC^^: even so, there's also IO to consider. [05:11] ryuo: no, the win10 is on the box, and i want to install lubuntu 18.04 [05:11] ryuo: still same thing it will read the stuff, do the computation slower then read [05:12] EriC^^: don't know that for a fact. it depends on their system. [05:12] But, yes. SHA256 is generally slow. [05:12] ryuo: ps - i would NEVER install anything windows, but this is for a friend and she insists that she needs to keep windows [05:12] mikubuntu: Hm. I haven't done that kind of dual boot in a long time. [05:12] mikubuntu: you'll need to repartition windows somehow so it isn't using the whole disk. [05:13] you may need to use windows software to do that. [05:13] one of them are really slow [05:13] i haven't dealt with it in years. [05:13] is* [05:13] madLyfe: sha256 is potentially 10x slower [05:13] ryuo: it used to be fairly automagic, but doesn't seem so anymore [05:13] mikubuntu: usually what I do is prepartition it how I want, install windows, then install Linux. [05:14] `-type f -print0 | xargs -0 sha256sum > ../md5sums` [05:14] madLyfe: change the command used if you want to try a different algorithm. [05:14] madLyfe: you're missing the find at the start, and if you want md5sum use md5sum instead of sha256sum after xargs [05:14] the stuff after xargs -0 or so. [05:15] i prefer xargs instead of using -exec, if the command supports processing multiple arguments. [05:16] `find -type f -print0 | xargs -0 md5sum > ../md5sums`? [05:16] madLyfe: yeah, make sure you can write to the ".." dir though [05:17] i dont see how that knows where i want it to scan? [05:17] madLyfe: it assumes you're in the dir you want scanned [05:17] It doesn't. [05:17] it uses the PWD or CWD. [05:17] (depending on your terms) [05:19] so im in the dir i want scanned. it will also put the md5 file output in there after its done? [05:19] no, it'll put it in the previous dir [05:23] what if there is no previous dir? [05:23] it doesnt write anything [05:23] well its a zfs pool [05:24] use /tmp/md5sum or some other place [05:24] so i would be doing it for nothing [05:24] keep in mind /tmp gets flushed on reboots [05:25] `find -type f -print0 | xargs -0 md5sum > /home/user`? [05:25] /home/user/md5sum [05:26] `find -type f -print0 | xargs -0 md5sum > ~/md5sum` is the same? [05:27] madLyfe: yeah [05:28] i can never remember if `~/` is `/home` or `/home/user` [05:28] is ther a flag to show progress? [05:28] ~ is /home/user ~somename is /home/somename [05:28] there* [05:29] nope no flag, you might be able to spy on it using "tail -f /home/user/md5sum" [05:31] `find -type f -print0 | xargs -0 md5sum > ~/md5sum tail -f /home/user/md5sum` [05:32] no, it's a separate command that you run in another terminal [05:32] does it have to be ran before or after? [05:32] after [05:35] "tail: cannot open '/home/user/md5sum' for reading: No such file or directory [05:35] tail: no files remaining" [05:35] nevermind [05:36] possibly find .... | tee /home/user/md5sum will let you see the output and write it too [05:38] see it via nano? [05:38] no, it should show the output in the same terminal [05:39] `find .... | tee ~/md5sum` ? [05:39] yeah [05:40] "find: ‘....’: No such file or directory" [05:44] Hey guys, hope someone can help. im using nextcloud as a snap package and in the readme file for the location of the log files it states the files are located in $SNAP_COMMON. How do i find out what directory $SNAP_COMMON refer to. [05:45] ryuo: thx, i better figure it out before i start doing something and mess the whole system up [05:45] mikubuntu: i just find it easier to prepartition if the existing install isn't important to preserve. [05:48] ryuo: i wonder why it's not automagic anymore -- the thing is, i won't even TRY to install windows. i don't mind preserving it if it's there, but that's as far as i go with the msoft monster [05:48] mikubuntu: i still deal with it sometimes. [05:49] mikubuntu: but it's the approach i've used since Windows XP. === led_ir22 is now known as led_dark_1 [06:31] !ping [06:31] pong! === Dreaman is now known as Blade [07:01] good morning my ubuntu friends. Here is wendico again trying to solve an ubuntu installation to another friend (i installed ubuntu to 8 friends already they are so happy with it) [07:03] This time i got an old but not used HP Compaq Mini with an atom proccesor and only 2gb ram. Live version runs, but after install i can only boot in "save mode" or i got a blank screen with no graphics or console [07:05] Maybe im asking to much installing ubuntu 18 to this old HP, should i try another flavour? if not, coz actually is slow but works, how can i set it up so always boots in graphics save mode? Thank you very much [07:07] Thank you very much for your help and understanding [07:07] wendico, try ubuntu mate [07:07] i installed it on this old 2007 imac and it made the beast work again [07:08] ohh i never heard of it, i just heard of xubuntu, im looking into mate [07:08] @flavors | wendico [07:08] !flavors | wendico [07:08] wendico: Recognized Ubuntu flavors build on Ubuntu and provide a different user experience out of the box. They are supported both in #ubuntu and in their flavor channel. For a list, see https://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu-flavours [07:08] cim209: cfhowlett: thank you reading on it [07:11] wow, how many flavours, downloading mate right away [07:11] a lot [07:14] i choosed 32bit coz i got 2gb ram but should i go mate 16 or mate 18 for this intel atom 2gb ram mini hp? [07:15] pretty sure atom doesn't support 32bit ... [07:15] i went with the 64 bit [07:15] and i only have 2.5gb ram [07:16] cfhowlett: ooh wow ty for the tip, so i go back to 64bit. what about 16 or 18, it shows both versions to download and both LTS, since is a clean install should i go 18 or better 16 to be faster? [07:17] go with 16.04 [07:17] IMHO lts versions are better. your mileage may vary. I don't upgrade until the xx.1 release so 18.04.1 would seem reasonable. [07:18] 64 bit is good for 4gb of ram and above. you haven't got that so ... 32bit! [07:18] i'm using 64 bit with 2.5gb ram [07:19] still snappy as ever [07:19] eh!?? full gui or server cim209 ? [07:19] full gui [07:19] ubuntu mate [07:19] * cfhowlett stands corrected ... and humbled [07:19] lol [07:19] Thats what page says, if 2gb go for 32 but u just said my intel atom dont support 32bit [07:20] if you have only 2gb ram, ubuntu will still run on 64 bit [07:20] <[vbm]> wendico: if mate does work ell for you, consider lubuntu [07:21] ok, so im downloading 32bit mate, lets try and then i tell u my findings and consider lubuntu [07:21] make sure you install ubuntu internet first, then update [07:21] without internet first* [07:22] ok, thank u for the tip, i install without internet [07:23] the installer missed several files for me when i included internet update during install [07:24] cim209, my issue with internet on installation is that the locale sets up wrong. in post installation, I manually reset it as well as localize my software soures [07:24] ...sources... [07:24] finnally im downloading both 32 and 64 bit just in case, i try 32 first as recommended on the web, if my intel atom dont support then i go for the 64 [07:25] you'll need an ethernet cable lol [07:26] by the way, while downloading, i have another strange problem. i Got an acer aspire f15 with fresh ubuntu 18 install but i have a small problem, i dont have "right click" on my mouse integrated laptop pad, why? i can right click on that pad on other os [07:28] try auto installing drivers [07:30] trying^^ [07:31] <[vbm]> wendico: what is your atom device? [07:33] wendico, https://i.imgur.com/FvTDKin.jpg [07:36] anyone here use plank? [07:37] having an issue with plank. when i minimize a window, that window stays focused and i can't minimize the others that are opened until i click the other icons in the dock [07:38] i'd have to click the icon in the dock or press alt + tab [07:39] [vbm] I have a intel atom n455 1.66ghz [07:40] cim209: looks nice, going for it [07:41] <[vbm]> is it a tablet? what OS did it come originally with? [07:42] [vbm] ohh maybe you are asking my device, sorry english 3rd language. It is a Mini laptop HP Compaq Mini ç [07:43] windows 7 out of the box [07:45] still downloading mate, slow connection, in case u have another sugestion, windows is erased allready [07:45] torrent! always! never dl ... [07:45] <[vbm]> check if it has windows 32 or 64 bits. my bet is 32. if so, you can run ubuntu 64 bits on it but you will probably have to copy bootia32 onto the USB in order for it to boot :) [07:46] torrent is way faster [07:46] brb [07:47] <[vbm]> :) I have an old aldi 2in1 tablet running atom. it was a PITA to get it to work at first but now it runs fine. [07:54] <[vbm]> when I first got it running I also had to modify the USB to include the kernel patches necessary to get the wifi working, but you shouldn't need to do that with the newest kernels [07:54] i cant check now if it was 32 or 64 bit, no sticker and already deleated, i dont use torrent because is slow connection on my side, im on unlimited plan 3g connection [07:56] <[vbm]> try to install the 64, if you can't boot the 64 but can boot the 32, you can modify the 64 USB to make it boot. [07:58] <[vbm]> https://askubuntu.com/questions/775498/ubuntu-on-32-bit-uefi-only-based-tablet-pc [07:59] <[vbm]> if you get stuck, you can try this https://linuxiumcomau.blogspot.com/search?q=baytrail [08:00] [vbm] actually i did installed and runned 64 bit ubuntu so i guess i wont have problems 64 mate [08:00] Thank you very much for the help [08:01] i will tell how it goes in an hour or so.... 3g connection... hehehehe [08:01] <[vbm]> :) [08:03] wendico, FWIW: I think the only non-64bit Atoms are the N2XX and Z5XX series. [08:11] so i think im righ with the 64 since i got the n455 [08:12] https://ark.intel.com/products/49491/Intel-Atom-Processor-N455-512K-Cache-1_66-GHz [08:12] 64 bit is listed, so yes. [08:13] thank you my friends [08:15] 2G max... i can see why some stuck with 32 bit. [08:16] the full benefits of 64 bit aren't realized until 4G of RAM at least. [08:52] Hi! I have two 2TB HDDs, which are combined in a software raid, with 4 partitions (having a total size of about 50GB). I'd like to create another partition/raid1 device on those disks taking up the remaining space. [08:52] How do I do that with mdadm? [08:54] The partition table type is ms-dos, and the new partition needs to be in the extended partition [08:54] jost_: do you have one or four md volumes? [08:54] SwedeMike, currently, 3 [08:55] umh, sorry, four [08:56] jost_: ok, then you create new partition on each drive and then you create a new mdadm raid1 to make those two partitions become a single raid1 md volume, then you need to get that into /etc/mdadm.conf so it's properly started at boot, then create a filesystem on this md volume, and then put this into /etc/fstab so it's mounted whereever you want it to be [08:56] SwedeMike: Ok, thanks :-) [08:56] jost_: https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-create-raid-arrays-with-mdadm-on-ubuntu-16-04 seems to talk about this [08:57] Yes, I found a ton of resources, but they all leave out the "create partitions first, then do mdadm" step [08:58] jost_: so you'll create new md volume in raid1 mode with /dev/sda6 /dev/sdb6 (or whatever number the new partition is) [09:21] Hello there, I reinstall Ubuntu over an old Ubuntu 16.04 and everything works fine except that I can see the Windows 10 installed on another drive from grub anymore. 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