[18:13] pavlushka_, you've got a tail :P === pavlushka_ is now known as pavlushka [18:13] zaki: ty :) [18:14] zaki: and good to see you :) [18:14] :) [18:14] zaki: so anything interesting up? [18:18] nah pavlushka not much [18:18] zaki: me too [18:41] zaki: have you ever though about the windows kernel? [18:41] zaki: about what type of kernel it is? [18:42] no. :| [18:42] not much [18:42] you reading ? [18:43] zaki: Linux is unix like kernel but monolithic [18:43] zaki: but Unix itself is of various type monolithic, microkernel, hybrid [18:44] and windows? [18:46] zaki: wikipedia says currently Windows NT family: Hybrid Windows CE: Hybrid Windows 9x and earlier: Monolithic (MS-DOS) [18:47] zaki: that means now windows is hybrid but previously was monolithic at a time around [18:48] zaki: the term hybrid defines as mixture of the goodness of microkernel and monolithic kernel [18:52] zaki: but funny it is that the hybrid kernel represents mostly of monolithic behavior, that is to say actually monolithic [18:53] zaki: not much essence of a microkernel in hybrids (some says it's just a marketing hoax) [18:54] so which one better ? [18:57] zaki: seems like there is only one thing available, monolithic kernel and monolithic kernels disguised as hybrid :p [18:57] he he [18:58] zaki: a working microkernel is yet to achieve [18:58] and micro kernel ? [18:58] oh [19:00] zaki: which you can deploy in production level, that kind of micro kernel has not been developed yet, It's still a work in progress / theory [19:02] zaki: and most discussed one on fsf world is GNU/HURD [19:02] microkernel [19:04] https://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/hurd.html ? [19:04] zaki: one I downloaded a debian gnu hurd as VM image but it failed to find my keyboard and mouse, so rendering it useless. and then my HDD crashed for 2nd time and again I lost my all work, the HDD was of WD and was relatively new [19:04] [ hurd ] - https://www.gnu.org [19:04] s/one/once [19:04] pavlushka meant to say: zaki: once I downloaded a debian gnu hurd as VM image but it failed to find my keyboard and mouse, so rendering it useless. and then my HDD crashed for 2nd time and again I lost my all work, the HDD was of WD and was relatively new [19:06] HDD crashed because of that ? [19:07] zaki: lol I dont know but may be :p [19:07] oh :D [19:09] pavlushka, https://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/hurd.html [19:09] [ hurd ] - https://www.gnu.org [19:09] that one? [19:10] zaki: this one, https://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/hurd/running/debian.html [19:10] [ Debian GNU/Hurd ] - https://www.gnu.org [19:12] zaki: around 400 MB of tar compressed image, decompressed size is around 4GB [20:05] good night pavlushka :) [21:37] Debian GNU Hurd is working on my VM