[00:30] <ausjke> OM/wc
[01:13] <amazoniantoad> So I'm trying to concatenate all of my 3 hard disks to a single logical volume group via the ubuntu server installer. However, when I select all disks to be a part of the group I am not allowed to continue with the installation. The "Done" (i.e next) button is grayed out
[01:14] <amazoniantoad> If I use the single logical volume group, would that install the OS across the span of all 3 disks?
[01:28] <guiverc> amazoniantoad, if you don't get a response here, please try #ubuntu-server
[01:32] <Bluefoxicy> is there a way to tell ubuntu to rescan for monitor resolution
[01:32] <Bluefoxicy> mine thinks I have 1920x1080 but this thing is 3840x2160
[01:32] <Bluefoxicy> It appears to just be using whatever settings it had when the system was installed.
[01:43] <Tin_man> Bluefoxicy, probably be a driver problem. have you made sure your video driver is up to date
[01:44] <Bluefoxicy> It's 18.04 running the latest updates
[01:44] <Bluefoxicy> and an intel HD2000 chipset I think
[01:46] <Tin_man> I've never had a video problem, but my monitor is only 1902 x 1080 max. and I also have an intel HD Graphics, but an older computer.
[01:47] <Tin_man> 1920*
[02:06] <Vic2> I have an application which I run multiple instances of both on Ubuntu 14 and 16 ... when I run it on 14, I get one single icon and upon right clicking, I get a list of all the instances and can then choose one by clicking on it.  When I run it in 16 I get multiple icons ... I want to stack these icons as they are in 14.  However when I check xprop of the icon (in 14 and 16) I get WM_CLASS:  not found.  I am stumped ... how can I achieve what I am wanting to acc
[02:06] <Vic2> omplish.
[02:32] <geigerCounter> Does anybody here know why even after installing the appropriate packages, I can't make use of Lua DBI?
[03:06] <linuxthefish> hi guys, does anyone have the .bashrc from a recent ubuntu version?
[03:07] <linuxthefish> I can't download it online!
[03:08] <Bashing-om> linuxthefish: I am on 18.04.1 - recent enough ?
[03:09] <linuxthefish> yeah perfect Bashing-om!
[03:11] <Bashing-om> linuxthefish: http://termbin.com/tbjg .
[03:15] <Aph3x-WL> you could probably get it by downloading an iso and booting/mounting it
[03:16] <linuxthefish> Aph3x-WL it's a bit of a stretch on 100kbit internet :p
[03:16] <linuxthefish> thanks Bashing-om just what I needed! now my debian install has the same colours for the terminal :D
[03:17] <Bashing-om> linuxthefish: :) Where there is a will there is a way .
[03:24] <blue1> what is the channel name for support for ubuntu mate on a raspberry pi?
[03:26] <guiverc> blue1, https://ubuntu-mate.org/irc/ only lists #ubuntu-mate ; none for pi only
[03:26] <blue1> thank you
[03:26] <blue1> i need help with ubuntu mate -- thank you
[03:28] <guiverc> blue1, if you ask your question, you may get an answer here (ubuntu-mate is an official flavor thus on-topic in this room)
[03:30] <blue1> the question is why doesn't the latest version of firefox not run on ubuntu-mate (v 61).  It is in the repo but it will not run.  And will they ever release an 18.04 version of mate, instead of the current 16.04? -- these are mate specific question.
[03:34] <guiverc> yep - i'd ask them on #ubuntu-mate; but I think the ports version of firefox are the ESR release; so you can't compare with non-esr release numbers
[03:35] <guiverc> ESR = extended support release
[03:36] <blue1> yes -- that's the old version 52
[03:36] <blue1> it no longer gets updates
[03:39] <blue1> ah well - it has been a learning experience -- nonetheless - thank you for you time.
[03:50] <KurbuntusBain> alright, im just setting up my first dedicated server
[03:50] <KurbuntusBain> running ubuntu who's tryin to help thgis idiot setup some domain names
[03:51] <KurbuntusBain> .....NAMESERVEers I MEAN...
[03:51] <KurbuntusBain> already created ftp[ accounts,
[03:51] <KurbuntusBain> which program should i use?
[03:52] <madmattco> i use powerdns
[03:52] <KurbuntusBain> aight, let's do it
[03:52] <madmattco> but
[03:52] <KurbuntusBain> power dns how do it get this going
[03:53] <madmattco> normally i just use standalone vps for my nameservers
[03:54] <madmattco> give this a read https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-install-and-configure-powerdns-with-a-mariadb-backend-on-ubuntu-14-04
[03:54] <madmattco> as far as the install, its on 14.04 but just using powerdns and mariadb, there isnt any difference jumping to 16.04 or higher other than systemd
[04:01] <KurbuntusBain> what do you think of bind
[04:01] <KurbuntusBain> I already have that on my server
[04:01] <madmattco> never used it
[04:01] <KurbuntusBain> i mean my local machine
[04:03] <KurbuntusBain> what you recommond for a mail server
[04:06] <cfhowlett> KurbuntusBain, might want to query in #ubuntu-server channel
[04:11] <madmattco> i just use sendmail
[04:13] <KurbuntusBain> what is this channel for
[04:14] <cfhowlett> !topic | KurbuntusBain
[04:17] <KurbuntusBain> !topic
[04:18] <KurbuntusBain> you guys are like, mad at me but nobody is talking anyways lol
[04:26] <lotuspsychje> KurbuntusBain: we are not mad, this channel just serves for ubuntu issues hence why cfhowlett has pointed you to topic
[04:26] <lotuspsychje> !chat | KurbuntusBain for other chat
[04:27] <cluelessperson> how can you add a wifi network that you're not currently nearby?
[04:28] <KurbuntusBain> no worries, i did register, i was kind of attempting a little late night humor, i will definitely follow the rules and regulations going forward
[04:28] <cluelessperson> ubuntu allows you to connect to existing networks, but there's no way I can see to add a network you cannot immediately connect to
[04:28]  * cluelessperson found a "Known wifi networks" tab
[04:28] <cluelessperson> but the wifi list gui still freezes up
[04:30] <linuxthefish> KurbuntusBain you can also use a free DNS provider such as cloudflare, or the place where you bought your domain from might have basic dns included
[04:40] <linuxthefish> KurbuntusBain also ask in ##linux for general software selection questions
[05:41] <phocking> hi frens
[05:41] <phocking> i forgot to add a volume to lvm when setting up 16.04
[05:42] <phocking> now when i try to use pvcreate it says 'excluded by filter'
[05:51] <Avion> 18.04 keyring problem: has old password cant unlock BUT ~/ loxal/share/keyrings/login.keyring  has been removed and doea not exist.
[05:52] <Avion> would be wo derful to synch the keyring up with my new password.
[05:55] <Avion> i hot the rm command from askubuntu
[05:55] <Avion> i found the rm command from askubuntu
[06:07] <granttrec> how can I permantly change the cursor for the terminal, I dont see an option for it in profile preferences
[06:30] <ducasse> granttrec: if there is no setting for it then i expect that terminal won't let you do that.
[06:30] <granttrec> to bad, thought it may have been editable in a config file somewhere
[06:31] <ducasse> granttrec: is this gnome-terminal?
[06:31] <granttrec> ducasse: yeah
[06:32] <ducasse> then i don't think that has a config file, it probably uses dconf or whatever gnome uses
[06:38] <granttrec> well I guess it time to explore xterm :)
[06:41] <ducasse> you can also try xfce4-terminal and lxterminal, both are vte-based like gnome-terminal
[06:50] <bipul> Hi
[06:50] <bipul> How to remove repository via command line let say, i would like to remove universal repository.
[06:54] <SwedeMike> bipul: edit file in /etc/apt/ either sources.list or in sources.list.d/
[06:55] <bipul> There are no such command like sudo remove-apt-repository universe
[06:55] <ducasse> bipul: apt-add-repository -r universe
[06:56] <bipul> ducasse: It says "'universe' distribution component is already disabled for all sources."
[06:57] <ducasse> ok, so it should already be disabled
[06:57] <bipul> And again if i have to enable it?
[06:57] <bipul> then?
[06:58] <ducasse> bipul: the same without -r
[06:58] <bipul> Is there any man page where i can look more in details?
[06:59] <bipul> okay i got it'
[08:18] <Simounet> Hello. Is someone knows how I can convert an UEFI boot to a legacy one from Ubuntu please?
[08:19] <ryuo> Simounet: is it the only installed OS?
[08:19] <Simounet> ryuo: No, there is a Windows 10 on another disk.
[08:20] <Simounet> But I can't boot to it right now because of this UEFI issue.
[08:20] <ryuo> Is it booting from Legacy?
[08:20] <Simounet> It's installed on legacy mode where I installed Ubuntu on UEFI.
[08:20] <ryuo> Windows.
[08:20] <ryuo> Not sure how you can do that in this case, honestly. Getting stuff to place nice with windows is tricky.
[08:20] <Simounet> Right now, no, but it was before I do stupid things.
[08:21] <ryuo> But you said windows is on another disk entirely?
[08:21] <Simounet> Yep.
[08:21] <ryuo> Hm.
[08:21] <ryuo> You can convert Linux from UEFI to Legacy, but you can't do the same with Windows without a reinstall i believe.
[08:22] <Simounet> Windows is in legacy mode.
[08:22] <ryuo> but it will require some manual changes.
[08:22] <ryuo> I can walk you through it in M.
[08:22] <ryuo> PM
[08:22] <ryuo> If you wish. It's rather involved.
[08:22] <Simounet> Yes please! :D
[08:22] <Simounet> I'm struggling with that for 3 days.
[08:24] <ducasse> !pm
[08:24] <ryuo> ducasse: well. if you insist. i didn't want to spam the channel.
[08:26] <ducasse> this channel is explicitly for supporting users, so i wouldn't call it spam :)
[08:26] <jil> hi
[08:26] <ryuo> Simounet: let's do it here.
[08:26] <Simounet> Ok.
[08:26] <Simounet> As you want.
[08:26] <ryuo> Simounet: please pastebin the output of this: fdisk -l /dev/sdb
[08:26] <ryuo> I originally assumed your label would by GPT, but it's not evidently.
[08:27] <Simounet> Disk /dev/sdb: 465.8 GiB, 500107862016 bytes, 976773168 sectors
[08:27] <Simounet> Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
[08:27] <Simounet> Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
[08:27] <Simounet> I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
[08:27] <Simounet> Disklabel type: dos
[08:27] <ryuo> Not here!
[08:27] <Simounet> Disk identifier: 0x8a919e19
[08:27] <ryuo> I meant for you to use  web pastebin.
[08:27] <jil> I want to install isync (to sync mailbox) but my system version is too old.  So I have downloaded a newer tar.gz from sourceforge and do the classical ./configure && make && make install
[08:28] <jil> but isync is not installed ? althoug I have no config or install errors
[08:29] <ryuo> Simounet: paste it here and give us a link: http://dpaste.com/
[08:29] <ducasse> jil: which release are you on?
[08:29] <Simounet> ryuo: http://termbin.com/15vg
[08:29] <ryuo> Or that.
[08:29] <Simounet> Sorry about that.
[08:30] <ryuo> Simounet: first of all, that ESP needs to go if you want to use Legacy again...
[08:30] <ryuo> Simounet: i'd modify the partition table and change its type. You can just keep it as unused space.
[08:30] <ryuo> It's the least invasive.
[08:31] <Simounet> ryuo: I'll just change the flag?
[08:31] <ryuo> Simounet: not the flag, the partition type. See the "ef"?
[08:31] <ryuo> That's it's type.
[08:31] <ryuo> Aka, the "Id" column.
[08:31] <jil> ducasse I'm using uname -a >> Linux idev 4.4.0-53-generic #74-Ubuntu SMP Fri Dec 2 15:59:10 UTC 2016 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[08:32] <Simounet> ryuo: Ok because in gparted, I can see esp into the flags column.
[08:32] <ryuo> Simounet: oh. sorry, i don't know how to use parted. I just use fdisk and gdisk.
[08:32] <ducasse> jil: 'lsb_release -ds'
[08:32] <ryuo> Simounet: you can try changing the flag.
[08:33] <ryuo> Simounet: either way, for Legacy to work, you can't have an ESP.
[08:33] <Simounet> I'll try and termbin the result.
[08:33] <ryuo> Just changing the type should be enough to make the BIOS thing it's no longer there.
[08:33] <Simounet> Can it keeps the boot flag?
[08:33] <ryuo> Simounet: you need that flag in some cases. best to leave it.
[08:33] <Simounet> Ok.
[08:34] <Simounet> http://termbin.com/c3gg
[08:34] <jil> ducasse: Linux Mint 18.1 Serena
[08:34] <ducasse> !mint | jil
[08:35] <ryuo> jil: LM isn't supported here.
[08:35] <ryuo> jil: visit their official support over on spotchat.
[08:35] <ryuo> I believe it's bundled with their XChat client.
[08:35] <ducasse> jil: there is also ##linuxmint here on freenode
[08:35] <ryuo> Simounet: ok. that should do it for that part.
[08:36] <jil> ok.
[08:36] <ryuo> Simounet: Next, you need to make some changes to your installation so it has the right bootloader.
[08:36] <ryuo> Simounet: this will require some chroot and mounting. you up for it?
[08:36] <Simounet> Yep.
[08:36] <Simounet> I'm used to it.
[08:37] <ryuo> which partition is root?
[08:37] <Simounet> No so handy with boot things, that's it.
[08:37] <ryuo> sdb5?
[08:37] <Simounet> Yep.
[08:37] <Simounet> sdb7 is /home.
[08:37] <ryuo> Ok.
[08:37] <ryuo> we're going to use /mnt as the base.
[08:37] <Simounet> Ok.
[08:37] <ryuo> Do these commands, i'll paste them. sec.
[08:38] <ryuo> http://dpaste.com/1JAXDEQ
[08:38] <ryuo> this is to mount everything.
[08:39] <ryuo> Ready?
[08:39] <Simounet> Ok.
[08:39] <Simounet> I did it.
[08:40] <ryuo> env LC_ALL= LANG=C TERM=xterm chroot /mnt /bin/bash -l
[08:40] <ryuo> this next.
[08:41] <ryuo> Enough to simulate a working environment.
[08:42] <Simounet> chroot: failed to run command '/bin/bash': No such file or directory
[08:42] <ryuo> o.O
[08:42] <ryuo> What the?
[08:42] <ryuo> What kind of install is this? you should have bash,
[08:42] <Simounet> I did it twice, the first time I get mesg: ttyname failed: No such device
[08:42] <ryuo> Oh.
[08:42] <ryuo> You only need to do it once.
[08:42] <Simounet> Sorry.
[08:43] <Simounet> I have bash.
[08:43] <ryuo> Ok...
[08:43] <Simounet>  /bin/bash is here.
[08:43] <ryuo> output from this please: dpkg -l | grep grub
[08:44] <ryuo> (needs to be from the chroot shell)
[08:45] <Simounet> https://pastebin.com/skEkv5rm
[08:45] <ryuo> Ok. Figured as much.
[08:45] <ryuo> Part 1, we need to install grub-pc.
[08:45] <ryuo> apt update && apt install grub-pc
[08:46] <ryuo> This should also remove grub-efi as a side-effect.
[08:46] <Simounet> http://dpaste.com/331EGGR
[08:46] <Simounet> Yep.
[08:46] <Simounet> That sounds good.
[08:46] <ryuo> Ok. Go ahead.
[08:47] <Simounet> Done, I'm in the menu.
[08:47] <Simounet> To choose the grub position.
[08:47] <ryuo> You should choose /dev/sdb.
[08:48] <Simounet> Done. http://dpaste.com/0WE0M4N
[08:48] <Simounet> Still EFI sh*t.
[08:48] <Simounet> But maybe is it normal.
[08:48] <ryuo> Uh...
[08:48] <ryuo> Not normally, no. It probably is because you're booted under EFI.
[08:49] <ryuo> Output of this please: dpkg -l | grep grub
[08:49] <Simounet> http://dpaste.com/28JHV2K
[08:49] <Simounet> :(
[08:50] <ryuo> Ok...
[08:50] <ryuo> try this.
[08:50] <ryuo> apt autoremove --purge grub-efi-amd64 grub-efi-amd64-bin grub-efi-amd64-signed
[08:50] <A_J> Guys can i run apt-get in elementary OS. Says it's based off ubuntu
[08:50] <Simounet> The following packages will be REMOVED: grub-efi-amd64* grub-efi-amd64-bin* grub-efi-amd64-signed* shim* shim-signed*
[08:51] <ryuo> A_J: yes, or apt even, but this isn't their support channel.
[08:51] <ryuo> Simounet: that's normal. Go ahead.
[08:51] <ryuo> You won't be needing the shim.
[08:51] <A_J> ryuo, ik. Just wanted to check it is indeed ubuntu before installing.
[08:51] <Simounet> http://dpaste.com/136AQ6K
[08:52] <ryuo> Simounet: ok.
[08:52] <ryuo> Simounet: we're going to try some manual setup of GRUB now.
[08:52] <ryuo> Simounet: first: grub-install --recheck /dev/sdb
[08:53]  * A_J thanks ryuo 
[08:53] <Simounet> http://dpaste.com/09HFPQ7
[08:53] <ryuo> Simounet: looks good so far.
[08:53] <ryuo> Simounet: now: update-grub
[08:54] <Simounet> http://dpaste.com/0SPTNYA
[08:54] <Simounet> :(
[08:54] <ryuo> I'd ignore that for now.
[08:54] <Simounet> Ok.
[08:54] <ryuo> I think we're done.
[08:54] <ryuo> Though odd that it doesn't see Windows.
[08:54] <ryuo> Deal with that later.
[08:54] <ryuo> exit the chroot.
[08:55] <Simounet> Oh oh.
[08:55] <Simounet> 2mn.
[08:55] <Simounet> gparted was opened...
[08:55] <ryuo> I presume you'll need to be booted in Legacy first.
[08:55] <Simounet> Can I try again the update-grub?
[08:55] <ryuo> Oui vay.
[08:55] <ryuo> Go ahead.
[08:55] <Simounet> I know it locks the partition.
[08:55] <ryuo> Just need to return to the chroot.
[08:56] <Simounet> Arf.
[08:56] <Simounet> Same issue.
[08:56] <ryuo> I think it's unrelated to gparted.
[08:56] <Simounet> Ok.
[08:56] <ryuo> [ -d /sys/firmware/efi ] && echo UEFI || echo BIOS
[08:56] <ryuo> From this command.
[08:57] <Simounet> UEFI
[08:57] <ryuo> It'll tell you whether your booted in UEFI or what.
[08:57] <ryuo> That's why.
[08:57] <Simounet> :'(
[08:57] <ryuo> GRUB is responding to the UEFI mode.
[08:57] <ryuo> Anyway.
[08:57] <ryuo> It shouldn't matter now.
[08:57] <ryuo> Let's try unmounting the partitions and rebooting
[08:57] <ryuo> umount -R /mnt
[08:57] <Simounet> Ok.
[08:57] <Simounet> From chroot?
[08:57] <ryuo> NO.
[08:57] <Simounet> Ok.
[08:58] <ryuo> Exit and then run it.
[08:58] <Simounet> I exit.
[08:58] <Simounet> Done.
[08:58] <ryuo> now reboot. If this fails, then we'll need to try again with the live cd booted under BIOS.
[08:59] <Simounet> What do you mean by "booted under BIOS". Like I am right now?
[08:59] <ryuo> No.
[08:59] <ryuo> You're booted under UEFI.
[08:59] <ryuo> You know it as Legacy.
[08:59] <ryuo> BIOS is what this mode used to be called.
[08:59] <Simounet> I tried all day long yesterday to be boot in legacy mode but failed.
[08:59] <ryuo> The Live CD?
[08:59] <Simounet> I'm on a USB key.
[08:59] <ryuo> Indeed.
[08:59] <ryuo> How did you prepare it?
[09:00] <Simounet> The first time with Rufus, the second time with etcher. Same result.
[09:00] <ryuo> Uh...
[09:00] <Simounet> Yes, that's why I get mad.
[09:00] <ryuo> It may be they're only capable of one mode or the other.
[09:00] <ryuo> I've never had this problem when i used dd to copy over the ISO.
[09:00] <ryuo> Ubuntu uses hybrid ISOs.
[09:00] <Simounet> Do I need to burn it to a DVD?
[09:01] <Simounet> Can it change something?
[09:01] <ryuo> Doubtful.
[09:01] <Simounet> :(
[09:01] <ryuo> But, using dd is how I normally prepare my USB keys.
[09:01] <Simounet> Ok.
[09:01] <ryuo> But, first.
[09:01] <ryuo> See if you can boot the Linux install.
[09:01] <Simounet> Yep. I'll do that right now.
[09:02] <ryuo> Frankly, i've never tried to fix grub in this manner so no idea if it'll work.
[09:02] <Simounet> Thanks for your help. I'll be back.
[09:05] <Simounet> ryuo: Ok, back to my system.
[09:06] <Simounet> OMG.
[09:06] <Simounet> I'm not on EFI anymore.
[09:06] <Simounet> And grub-customize can see W10.
[09:07] <ryuo> Feel free to reformat the old ESP partition to repurpose it. It's rather complicated if you want to use its space for something else.
[09:08] <Simounet> No, I don't want to mess it up. :p
[09:08] <Simounet> Just want a clean install.
[09:08] <Simounet> With real boot partition on the good place.
[09:08] <ryuo> To do that, you'd need to install under Legacy mode from the start.
[09:08] <ryuo> Ubuntu defaults to installing for the type of system it is booted from.
[09:09] <ryuo> Now, the USB key prep I was talking about is something like this:
[09:09] <ryuo> dd if=ubuntu.iso of=/dev/sd??? bs=1M
[09:09] <ryuo> change as required.
[09:09] <Simounet> Ok, I'll do that.
[09:10] <ryuo> But.
[09:10] <ryuo> Be careful to get the device name correct.
[09:10] <ryuo> One typo and you'll fry the wrong device.
[09:10] <Simounet> Yep of course, I know what dd is capable of.
[09:10] <Simounet> :D
[09:10] <ryuo> sdc is likely your key.
[09:10] <Simounet> Exactly.
[09:11] <ryuo> if you're using official Ubuntu ISOs, your resulting file will be capable of booting under 4 configurations.
[09:11] <Simounet> I'll try to boot to W10, then plug my others HD that I disconnected not to mess everything.
[09:11] <Simounet> Then use the key.
[09:11] <ryuo> err 2, since this is USB flash drive.
[09:12] <Gnjurac> is there a way to insatall ubuntu whit newer kernel?
[09:12] <ryuo> Simounet: honestly though, i'd suggest an iodd2531 if you want a more professional solution.
[09:12] <Gnjurac> i have 2400g and when i boot from usb graphics is broken
[09:12] <ryuo> Gnjurac: what version of Ubuntu?
[09:13] <ryuo> 18.04?
[09:13] <Gnjurac> i tryed xubuntu you think it hase to do whit DE flawor, 18.04
[09:13] <Gnjurac> yep
[09:13] <ryuo> No. 18.04 ships with a 4.15 kernel.
[09:13] <Gnjurac> should stop looking down while typing xD
[09:13] <ryuo> Hm.
[09:14] <ryuo> What happens when you try to boot?
[09:14] <Simounet> ryuo: iodd2531?
[09:14] <ryuo> Simounet: http://iodd.kr/wordpress/product/iodd-2531/
[09:14] <Gnjurac> i get like just one corner of screen
[09:15] <Gnjurac> like resolution is broken and screen starts from mid
[09:15] <ryuo> Gnjurac: have you tried booting anothe distro like Manjaro? If a newer kernel would make a difference, this would tell you.
[09:15] <Gnjurac> yep am typing atm form stupit manjaro
[09:15] <ryuo> Hm.
[09:15] <Simounet> ryuo: Thanks again. You saved the day!
[09:15] <ryuo> This is a stab in the dark.
[09:15] <ryuo> But...
[09:15] <ryuo> Gnjurac: you can try booting linux livecd with amdgpu.dc=0
[09:16] <ryuo> that may make a difference.
[09:16] <Gnjurac> hmm i dont see any option when booting form usb to change anything
[09:16] <ryuo> Hm...
[09:16] <Gnjurac> like nodmoset or soemthing
[09:16] <ryuo> You'd need to get to the bootloader command line.
[09:16] <Gnjurac> yep i know
[09:16] <Gnjurac> but duno how
[09:17] <Gnjurac> anywya my plan was to install ubuntu and just pull that newers kernel mesa from ppa
[09:18] <ryuo> Do you have another system you can install from? You could install to the drive from another system and then install it back into the desktop when you're done preparing the environment.
[09:18] <Gnjurac> hmm meybe i should try minimal iso thats all terminal
[09:18] <ryuo> https://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/85vav4/how_i_installed_ubuntu_1804_with_ryzen_2200g/
[09:18] <ryuo> this may be of some use.
[09:19] <ryuo> I expect this issue will be resolved in Ubuntu 18.04.2, as this will have the first HWE packages.
[09:19] <Gnjurac> i have another system but issue is this new PC i bouth m2ssd and old pc cant use it
[09:19] <ryuo> Oh.
[09:19] <Gnjurac> any ata on 18.04.2
[09:19] <ryuo> Not for a good while.
[09:19] <ryuo> 18.04.1 was released in july.
[09:20] <ryuo> Hm...
[09:20] <ryuo> Sec.
[09:20] <ryuo> Gnjurac: which bootloader screen do you see?
[09:21] <ducasse> Gnjurac: not until some time like january, about 3 months after release of 18.10
[09:21] <ryuo> Do you see a black and white grub screen?
[09:21] <ryuo> If so, it's using EFI grub...
[09:21] <Gnjurac> no if i do i would just prees E or whatewer is for editing
[09:21] <ducasse> Gnjurac: you can try 18.10 in october, though
[09:21] <Gnjurac> i see that xfce mousethingy in bot
[09:21] <Gnjurac> or i am blind
[09:21] <Gnjurac> can restart again and check
[09:22] <ryuo> Gnjurac: i'm trying to say you should boot with a special kernel parameter.
[09:22] <ryuo> But, how you do so depends on which you're booting from.
[09:22] <Gnjurac> ye i know
[09:22] <ryuo> if it's booting in Legacy mode, you should get a colorful screen.
[09:22] <ryuo> first.
[09:22] <Gnjurac> just i dont think it even showed me grub screep
[09:23] <ryuo> Ubuntu ISOs boot to some bootloader screen to give you a chance to configure it.
[09:23] <Gnjurac> i just put usb , picked boot from usb, and it just shooted me to install screen
[09:23] <Gnjurac> meybe cuz i am trying xubuntu
[09:24] <ryuo> This reminds me of how Apollo Lake was incompatible with Ubuntu Xenial due to platform bugs...
[09:29] <tomreyn> Gnjurac: by 'install screen' do you mean the fully loaded graphical desktop? or a text 'graphics' menu where you may choose 'install ubuntu' and a couple other options?
[09:30] <Gnjurac> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[09:30] <Gnjurac> found it
[09:30] <Gnjurac> up form Here is advanced page
[09:30] <tomreyn> Gnjurac: if this is an amd64 or i686 architecture (so intel 32- or 64 bit) and the grub menu wont load, either hold down shift or keephitting escape during boot
[09:30] <Gnjurac> "Here is the advanced welcome page: "
[09:30] <Gnjurac> up img but i tryed to press button esc
[09:30] <Gnjurac> will try again whit some other button
[09:31] <Gnjurac> anyway what should i append whit hope of boot
 Gnjurac: you can try booting linux livecd with amdgpu.dc=0
[09:31] <tomreyn> would be my take, too
[09:32] <Gnjurac> ok will try
[09:32] <Gnjurac> restarting
[09:34] <ryuo> tomreyn: i figured they might have some luck if they specified amdgpu.dc=0 or amdgpu.dc=1
[09:36] <ryuo> If either works, they'll probably want to specify it in Grub too.
[09:36] <tomreyn> right.
[09:37] <ryuo> It reminds me of some issues I had with my ProBook 455 G5, though it's not based on Ryzen.
[09:37] <ryuo> A BIOS update resolved most of it.
[09:37] <tomreyn> although if they'll use oibaf or padoka the boot option should no longer be needed.
[09:38] <ryuo> What's that?
[09:38] <tomreyn> it's simply that there is no easy way to install ubuntu 18.04 with any newer kernel than 4.15
[09:38] <tomreyn> those are ppa's
[09:39] <ryuo> I see.
[09:39] <ryuo> Yes, i'm aware. you typically have to switch kernels after install.
[09:39] <ryuo> It's very hard to change packages on the live CD itself, but it can be done.
[09:40] <ryuo> not something i would suggest to people here though.
[09:40] <ryuo> Well, the fact that we haven't heard from them suggests it may have worked.
[10:15] <eraserpencil> I'm working on a snapcraft.yaml script, and I get a "/bin/sh: 38: XDG_DATA_HOME: parameter not set" error..... when I'm just appending the correct path to XDG_DATA_HOME.
[10:15] <eraserpencil> Did i inadvertently did something like ./XDG_DATA_HOME?
[10:26] <ikonia> eraserpencil: how can we know what you did / didn't do - it's your snap
[10:26] <ikonia> the fact that it's referencing a parameter not being set suggests you didn't try to execute it - it's looking for a paramater that hasn't been set
[10:33] <eraserpencil> is a parameter an environment variable?
[10:34] <ikonia> it can be very common
[10:52] <eraserpencil> think i got it
[10:52] <eraserpencil> thanks!
[11:48] <Milesy> Hi folks, my new 18 install has became corrupted, almost certainly I believe to do with NVIDIA issues. I can not boot the system, it just gets stuck on messages about GDM and started user manager for UID 121. It just loops forever on the same messages. When I boot into recovery mode and select enable networking I get the same.
[11:49] <Milesy> Can anyone suggest how I can get in and remove gnome and the nvidia packages completely?
[11:51] <Milesy> I can drop into root shell and mount / on RW - is there any additional risks in that?
[11:53] <ikonia> corrutped ?
[11:53] <ikonia> what do you mean by corrupted
[11:56] <Milesy> The system does not boot, it just loops on the same message forever. "started user manager for UID 121"
[11:57] <lotuspsychje> Milesy: your graphics card chipset and driver version please?
[11:58] <Milesy> Its a very old NVIDIA card, about 10 years old. I can't get into the system, so I cant tell you much from there. I'll need to open the case.
[11:59] <ikonia> how did you install the nvidia module
[12:00] <ikonia> did it break after you did this
[12:00] <ikonia> can you boot into recovery mode
[12:00] <Milesy> No everything installed from disk without any additional effort.
[12:01] <ikonia> then why do you think it has something to do with nvidia?
[12:01] <Milesy> I then plugged in a USB/DVI adapter and installed the DisplayLink driver and that was working fine as well
[12:01] <Milesy> except every time the OS locked, the usb device would turn off and the display would never recover again
[12:02] <ikonia> the OS locked ?
[12:02] <ikonia> that sounds like you've had a problem for a long time if your OS is "locking"
[12:02] <Milesy> the lock screen
[12:02] <ikonia> ahhh
[12:02] <ikonia> the atual password lock
[12:02] <Milesy> yeah
[12:03] <Milesy> So the last thing I did was disable all the lock features in gnome from the additional config utility
[12:03] <Milesy> and nothing else of note, and this morning it wont boot
[12:03] <Milesy> I can get into recovery mode, but just the root shell
[12:04] <Milesy> if I select enable networking it fails on the same GDM messages
[12:04] <ikonia> so why are you thinking this is nvidia
[12:04] <ikonia> and why are you looking to remove nvidia and gnome
[12:04] <Milesy> all searches related to this user 121, appear related to NVIDIA issues
[12:05] <ikonia> what does the GDM and xorg logs show
[12:05] <ikonia> what do the syslogs show
[12:05] <ikonia> what happens if you manually start gdm from the recovery shell
[12:08] <Milesy> syslogs have failures from gnome-shell - failed to create backend: could not find a primary drm kms device
[12:09] <Milesy> org.gnomeShell.desktop exited with code 1
[12:09] <Milesy> unrecoverable failure in ..... org.gnome.Shell.desktop
[12:09] <Milesy> Have not googled these yet, just typing what I see
[12:10] <ktechmidas> is there a way to figure out what dpkg-reconfigure actually changes without changing the files?
[12:10] <ktechmidas> like a dry run that'll tell me what it's done
[12:10] <ikonia> Milesy: it feels like you should debug this before making assumtions and removing packages
[12:11] <ikonia> ktechmidas: I'm not aware of a "dry run" feature for dpkg-reconfigure
[12:11] <ktechmidas> ikonia: hm, is there a way for me to at least figure out what it's changed after the fact?
[12:11] <ikonia> ktechmidas: I'd expect the logs to show chang
[12:12] <A_J> Guys can someone tell me how to make the bottom dock and menu bar show up on my main display (Laptop ) and my external Monitor (connected via HDMI). I am using elementary OS GUI on ubuntu
[12:12] <ktechmidas> not quite at the level I need sadly... maybe I will try something like etc git
[12:12] <Milesy> ikonia, its a clean install, so I have nothing to lose by a clean fix in the first instance, if the problem persisted subsequently I would generally look at starting to debug it deeper.
[12:12] <ikonia> Milesy: it's not a clean fix
[12:12] <ikonia> Milesy: it's doing random things
[12:12] <ikonia> Milesy: if you have "nothing to lose" just do a full re-install then and see if the problem persists
[12:12] <ikonia> but removing random packages is pointless
[12:13] <lotuspsychje> !derivatives | A_J
[12:14] <A_J> lotuspsychje: i am using ubuntu only. Just another GUI
[12:14] <A_J> ok but i will ask there
[12:14] <ikonia> thanks
[12:28] <deadspider> How to make the HDD unprotected from writing after ubuntu setup?
[12:28] <JimBuntu> deadspider, any chance this is multi-boot with Windows?
[12:29] <deadspider> No.
[12:33] <deadspider> I wanted to install XP but setup cannot continue. I have encrypted the hard drive from ubuntu setup and now XP cannot be installed. Can you help me?
[12:34] <deadspider> how to de-encrypt or remove write protection from the hard drive which ubuntu installation has done.
[12:36] <deadspider> or can you help me install open-cobol on ubuntu?
[12:38] <deadspider> Anybody help...
[12:38] <lotuspsychje> !patience | deadspider
[12:39] <lotuspsychje> deadspider: its not really my business, but xp is long eol, you should not still use it. then for a dualboot i would personally chosoe a full reinstall
[12:40] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[12:40] <deadspider> Hello BluesKaj
[12:41] <BluesKaj> hi deadspider
[12:41] <mobile_c> i need help getting a cross compiler set up
[12:47] <lotuspsychje> mobile_c: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CrossBuilding start here
[12:49] <mobile_c> i can compile with --static when without it i get libc not found
[12:49] <mobile_c> but without*
[12:49] <mobile_c> $ arm-linux-gnueabi-gcc ./disassembler.c -w && ./a.out
[12:49] <mobile_c> ./a.out: error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[12:50] <lotuspsychje> !arm | mobile_c
[13:00] <Milesy> Does anyone keep a seperate partition for /home these days? I feel like it would save me effort in a reinstall to have that data seperate, downloads etc.
[13:02] <marshwallow> Wow. Much people here!
[13:02] <marshwallow> Can anyone help me?
[13:02] <marshwallow> Need some mDNS help.
[13:03] <marshwallow> Typing host <my_computer_hostname> on another computer in the intranet throws a SERVFAIL.
[13:03] <Milesy> first rule, dont ask to ask - just ask.
[13:03] <jarnos> Where do you find bash completion file for tail command?
[13:03] <marshwallow> Milesy, yeah, I was slowly typing my question.
[13:04] <marshwallow> Well aware of that rule.
[13:04] <marshwallow> Sorry if it turned out like I'd never post the question itself.
[13:04] <marshwallow> How should I fix that?
[13:04] <BluesKaj> Milesy, I alway use / and /home parttions
[13:04] <marshwallow> (the SERVFAIL thing)
[13:04] <marshwallow> Where should I look first?
[13:06] <Milesy> BluesKaj: thanks. Been years since I installed Linux, reckon 20GB is enough for / these days?
[13:07] <BluesKaj> Milesy, yes, that's plenty
[13:07] <BluesKaj> Milesy, I install to / and set the mountpoint for /home using manual partitioning in the installer
[13:09] <Exterminador> hello guys. I was wondering if it's possible to force a specific program to bind to a specific IP for outgoing connections or if it's a thing that must be supported by the software itself?
[13:09] <marshwallow> Bumpy-dumpy.
[13:09] <marshwallow> No one?
[13:10] <Milesy> cheers BluesKaj.
[13:11] <marshwallow> Perhaps a more suitable channel for this?
[13:11] <marshwallow> mDNS SERVFAIL thing?
[13:11] <blackflow> Exterminador: must be supported by software, or alternatively look at running that program under a different network namespace
[13:12] <cluelessperson> question, how do you view the source code for an ubuntu snap distribution?
[13:13] <Milesy> marshwallow: sounds more like a generic #linux question.
[13:13] <Exterminador> blackflow: thanks. I'll give it a few tries to some possible setups
[13:13] <Milesy> I would just be googling it for you, and you can do that yourself.
[13:13] <marshwallow> I did google, but I got quite various suggestions.
[13:14] <marshwallow> People went to set up DNS servers, doing something with 'unbound'.
[13:14] <marshwallow> Some people just got it working out of the box.
[13:14] <Milesy> I've never saw it, and I have been using Linux for 20 years, so seems a bit of a niche problem.
[13:15] <BluesKaj> marshwallow, is this a production machine, on a large network?
[13:15] <marshwallow> Not really.
[13:16] <marshwallow> A laptop which should be a server for an Android application.
[13:16] <marshwallow> I ... I guess we could call it 'production' then?
[13:17] <marshwallow> I'm connected to an Android phone acting as a hotspot via WiFi, so that might be the culprit here?
[13:17] <BluesKaj> uhhmm, yeah
[13:19] <marshwallow> The unpleasant part of this story is that I don't have a proper router at disposal ATM, so I can't test it that way.
[13:20] <marshwallow> So ... any recommended course of action? I mean, either one that would definitely put the blame on the Android connection thing, or one that'd solve this conundrum. Both options are okay :).
[13:20] <JimBuntu> marshwallow, Can you access the other computer via the hotspot connection at all? Such as even if you use the IP?
[13:22] <marshwallow> The strange thing is that I can reach it (i.e. ping or or open <hostname>:8000 in Chrome) using an Android device, but other Ubuntu clients don't even consider talking to it.
[13:22] <marshwallow> IP works decently, but that's not really what I'm aiming at.
[13:22] <JimBuntu> marshwallow, I need to leave. Either way, I was asking because it could be that the hotspot connection is blocking all client<->client communications, and there may even be a setting to disable this.
[13:23] <JimBuntu> Ok, I guess that's not it. Good luck
[13:23] <marshwallow> Sad to see you go, but thank you for trying to help.
[13:25] <marshwallow> No, actually - I can reach it both on my Ubuntu *and* Android clients.
[13:26] <marshwallow> The only difference is in the addresses.
[13:26] <marshwallow> On a Ubuntu computer I need to use <hostname>.local, but on an Android device I can reach my laptop using simply <hostname>.
[13:27] <marshwallow> Which is great, but `host` command returns 2(SERVFAIL) for both addresses.
[13:38] <adroit_machine> I have installed xpad, and when I open it there are too many windows with separate entries in task manager, it gets messy. How do I group all the windows together or even hide all the windows of xpad from the task manager? Distro: Kubuntu 16
[13:43] <marshwallow> adroit_machine, doesn't KDE do it itself?
[13:43] <adroit_machine> marshwallow: no it doesn't. I have even set the "group similar task together" in the options.
[13:44] <marshwallow> Maybe it's a xpad-specific thing, but it's nicely grouping Konsole windows on my laptop.
[13:44] <marshwallow> Ubuntu 18.04 though.
[13:44] <marshwallow> *an
[13:45] <adroit_machine> marshwallow: can I hide xpad entries in the taskmanager altogether?
[13:45] <adroit_machine> is there some way to do it?
[13:46] <marshwallow> Uh... maybe those Activity thingies can help you, but I'm not sure.
[13:47] <adroit_machine> marshwallow: thank you for the info. I have not really used activities instead I use virtual desktops
[13:47] <marshwallow> You're welcome.
[14:25] <basalt> hi, i watched several videos and read some websites about the ubuntu-communitheme and all stated that "select communitheme on xorg (recommended)" so why is xorg recommended ??
[14:28] <lotuspsychje> basalt: xorg is still default on bionic, wayland has some work in progress still
[14:46] <Fretegi> morning
[14:47] <Fretegi> looking at new video cards.  any new thoughts surrounding nvidia 1050ti vs. radeon rx560 for light gaming in linux?  more focusing on linux support for each, bugginess of drivers etc. not so much which card has better specs etc
[14:49] <lotuspsychje> Fretegi: for hardware reviews to compare cards better ask in ##hardware
[14:49] <ducasse> Fretegi: try #gamingonlinux?
[14:49] <Milesy> I have managed to disable the "lock screen" and using dconf-editor also disabled the inactivity stuff, but after a while my screen still switches off, and when I move my mouse / press a key I get the inactivity screen with the clock on it - is there somewhere else I need to configure it?>
[14:49] <Fretegi> lotuspsychje, thank you
[15:07] <sayo-> Hello! I'm rather new to ubuntu and I keep getting random freezes that end up with this error (https://imgur.com/a/L8EOeGf). I'm not sure how to troubleshoot this. A few sites on internet suggest checking that the partition is OK, which I did and it seems to be OK.
[15:08] <sayo-> Sorry I couldn't pastebin the error, there's no way to copy text in that crash screen. The screen appears and keep showing up errors until I reboot my computer by hand.
[15:09] <sayo-> Im suspicious about my new SSD disk, all my hardware is new, but so far I haven't gotten any trouble under window so I was wondering if this could be something ubuntu-specific?
[15:10] <_KaszpiR_> sayo- looks like issue with disk, or controler
[15:10] <_KaszpiR_> you may try to install latest hwe kernels, or even edge kernels
[15:11] <sayo-> I booted ubuntu from USB and used the 'Check Filesystem' option in Disks, and it says it's OK
[15:11] <_KaszpiR_> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[15:11] <_KaszpiR_> see /var/log/kern.log
[15:11] <sayo-> do you think my SSD may have compatibility issues with current stable controlers?
[15:11] <_KaszpiR_> might be
[15:12] <_KaszpiR_> or check if your firmware is up to date for motehrboard and disk
[15:13] <sayo-> okay
[15:14] <sayo-> after a quick check, I didn't find anyone complaining about my disks and ubuntu (Team Group L5 LITE 3D 2.5" 480GB SATA III 3D NAND SSD T253TD480G3C101)
[15:14] <sayo-> I'll check firmwares and kernel
[15:16] <sayo-> is there some place where I could gather more information about the clash?
[15:16] <sayo-> besides the kern.log file you just mentioned
[15:18] <ioria> sayo-, what i see is that you have a Read only fs; can you run  mount | grep sda5 ?
[15:19] <sayo-> ioria: sda5 is where Uubuntu is installed, it's what I'm using right now
[15:20] <ioria> sayo-,  mount | grep sda5 ?
[15:20] <sayo-> /dev/sda5 on / type ext4 (rw,relatime,errors=remount-ro,data=ordered)
[15:21] <ioria> sayo-,  it's ok;  journalctl --verify
[15:21] <sayo-> oh wow I got a few red messages
[15:21] <sayo-> I'll pastebin one sec
[15:22] <ioria> sayo-,  FAIL ?
[15:22] <sayo-> ioria: https://pastebin.com/XwPQ9Dh4 there you go
[15:22] <sayo-> yup a few lines starting with FAIL and File corruption detected
[15:23] <ioria> sayo-,  CORRUPTED LOGS
[15:23] <ioria> sayo-, journalctl --disk-usage
[15:23] <sayo-> journal logs, and journal is also part of the error when my computer clases
[15:23] <sayo-> Archived and active journals take up 720.1M in the file system.
[15:24] <sayo-> 720mb of logs? :O
[15:25] <ioria> sayo-, yes, is big ... but now you have to backup in another directory the corrupted files that you got from the verify cmd
[15:26] <ioria> sayo-, e.g   /var/log/journal/267b54b15e18480db0ab0ab6db8481b5/system@000573e4e0039efa-b9e707efc7f133a5.journal~
[15:26] <sayo-> I think this is how things go: I'm doing something (like working on an IDE or texstudio), when I click on save I get a random 'Input Output error', and at some point I get the crash screen saying it can't write the error logs?
[15:27] <ioria> sayo-,  yes, the root cause it's probably an I/O error
[15:27] <sayo-> makes sense?
[15:27] <sayo-> sucks :( hope my SSD isn't bogus
[15:27] <ioria> sayo-,  and your fs becomes read only
[15:28] <sayo-> all the smart checks and stuff says it's OK though
[15:29] <ioria> sayo-,  the recommended  way is run sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda from a live env
[15:30] <sayo-> I think I've done that already (using the GUI from Disks) but I can try it again if you can hang on for a minute or two
[15:31] <ioria> sure, but not good debuggng HD
[15:31] <sayo-> ioria: anything else I should run from live before I reboot back to my setup?
[15:32] <ioria> sayo-,  nope,just backup the corrupted logs (but you can do it from the main install)
[15:32] <sayo-> ok
[15:32] <sayo-> I should be back in a second
[15:41] <sayo-live> ioria: here I am
[15:42] <sayo-live> ioria: https://pastebin.com/8b1DRWZw
[15:43] <sayo-live> note that I ran smartctl on /dev/sda and no /sda5 which is the drive I'm having trouble with
[15:43] <sayo-live> but by reading the output, it's the same disk so that should be fine I guess
[15:43] <zjhxmjl> hey,guys!who can give me some help?thx
[15:43] <zjhxmjl> 	https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/7vxjKSwpTD/
[15:46] <ioria> sayo-live, yes, looks fine
[15:48] <sayo-live> ioria: yup, run the extended offline tests and got Completed without error
[15:49] <sayo-live> Warning! SMART Self-Test Log Structure error: invalid SMART checksum.
[15:49] <sayo-live> not sure what that means though
[15:50] <sayo-live> does that mean they screwed me with an used disk?
[15:50] <ioria> sayo-live, that is harmless, iguess
[15:50] <sayo-live> ok
[15:50] <sayo-live> any lead what the next step should be then?
[15:52] <sayo-live> when I rebooted I checked the UEFI and it's 4.6, there's a new version 4.7 that went out a few days ago
[15:52] <ioria> sayo-live, reboot your system and we can check other logs
[15:52] <sayo-live> ok brb
[15:54] <sayo-> ioria: here I'm, you lead
[15:54] <ioria> sayo-live, journalctl -xn
[15:55] <sayo-> ioria: https://pastebin.com/VX6rZ2QT
[15:56] <sayo-> there are four lines in red, ex acvpnagent[1124]: Function: createSingletonInstance File: ../../vpn/Common/Utility/linux/NWMgrHelper.cpp Line: 151 Invoked Function: CNWMgrHelper::CNWMgrHelper Return Code: -20447225
[15:57] <dirac1> Anyone here uses cockpit? I want to know the usual ram consumption.
[15:58] <ioria> sayo-, i thinkthat is cisco vpn software,not ubuntu's
[15:58] <sayo-> ioria: yup, it's anywhere from cisco
[15:58] <sayo-> probably unrelated
[15:58] <ioria> sayo-, i don't see I/O problems there;  try posting 'dmesg'
[15:59] <sayo-> ioria: https://pastebin.com/fsMKnUeG
[16:01] <sayo-> there's only (1) MODSIGN: Couldn't get UEFI db list, and (2) a bunch of PKCS#7 signature not signed with a trusted key
[16:01] <sayo-> those are the only messages in red
[16:01] <chingus> created container via: docker create   --name=tvheadend4   --net=host   -v /mnt/config/tvheadend:/config   -v /mnt/recordings:/recordings   -e PGID=1000 -e PUID=1000    -e  TZ=America/Mexico_City linuxserver/tvheadend
[16:01] <chingus> was not able to to access the web page, continually not avail
[16:01] <chingus> after issueing: sudo iptables -I INPUT 1 -p tcp -m tcp --dport 9981 -j ACCEPT
[16:01] <chingus> I was able to connect
[16:01] <chingus> does this have to do with the way I created the container?
[16:02] <sayo-> ioria: I think the I/O errors are  sort of random, and when they start to occur then everything clashes
[16:02] <sayo-> that's why we don't find any I/O errors in dmesg
[16:03] <CoolerX> i edited my /etc/environment file to include JAVA_HOme
[16:03] <CoolerX> JAVA_HOME*, but when i do echo $JAVA_HOME in a terminal i get nothing
[16:04] <CoolerX> wtf
[16:04] <ioria> sayo-,  ata's are ok
[16:04] <ioria> sayo-,  some nvidia warnings maybe
[16:05] <CoolerX> if i  "cat /etc/environment" then the edit i made is still there
[16:05] <CoolerX> any ideas?
[16:06] <sayo-> ioria: I installed nvidia drivers a few days ago but this has been randomly clashing for a month or so\
[16:06] <piesquared> How do I move directories using terminal?  They aren’t empty.
[16:06] <ioria> sayo-,  when exactly did you get the freeze ? i mean,using some sort of sw  ?
[16:07] <CoolerX> piesquared, mv src dst
[16:07] <sayo-> ioria: different settings, sometimes i'm using an IDE or textstudio and I can't save a file
[16:08] <ioria> sayo-,  in this case, i suggest you run again  'fsck' from the recovery menu
[16:08] <sayo-> at other times, I'm using firefox and it starts behaving crazily, youtube keeps playing music on the background but I can't change the browser tabs, and after a minute or two acting weird, it crashes
[16:09] <sayo-> recovery menu = the boot menu when I reboot?
[16:09] <MikeRL> Question - how come on Ubuntu 18.04 I can run apt update and apt dist-upgrade and choose yes and still have updates under the software center?
[16:09] <ioria> sayo-,  yes Advanced Options
[16:10] <sayo-> ioria: ok, just fsck /dev/sda5 or anything else?
[16:11] <zjhxmjl> hi,guys!why i can't find the GPU with clinfo command?https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/7vxjKSwpTD/
[16:11] <ioria> sayo-, what's on the other partitions ?
[16:11] <sayo-> windows, I'll show you
[16:12] <tomreyn> zjhxmjl: sudo apt install mesa-opencl-icd
[16:12] <ioria> sayo-, just check the 'linux' partitions (and the efi one)
[16:12] <zjhxmjl>  tomreyn: ok,thx,i'll try
[16:12] <sayo-> ioria: https://i.imgur.com/CajAuGX.png there you go
[16:13] <sayo-> I think the only linux partition is sda5, the rest is mostly windows stuff
[16:13] <ioria> sayo-, yep
[16:13] <sayo-> ah, the efi one as well
[16:13] <sayo-> ok wish me look
[16:13] <sayo-> thanks for all your help ^_^
[16:14] <ioria> no prob
[16:16] <tomreyn> zjhxmjl: thiws will use mesa, though. if you want to use the proprietary stuff by amd, you meay need something like this https://discuss.pixls.us/t/using-amd-open-source-and-the-amdgpu-pro-opencl-driver-for-image-processing/6864
[16:16] <zjhxmjl> tomreyn: ok,thx
[16:17] <RonaldsMazitis> my mouse stops working after some time I don't use it anymore
[16:17] <RonaldsMazitis> I'm on ubuntu 16.04
[16:19] <RonaldsMazitis> maybe I need to upgrade to 18.04
[16:23] <MikeRL> Another question - when is #ubuntu-mozillateam going to update Thunderbird and Firefox? Thunderbird is still at v52.
[16:24] <ducasse> RonaldsMazitis: which kernel are you on? 'uname -r'
[16:25] <RonaldsMazitis> 4.4.0-131-generic
[16:26] <ducasse> RonaldsMazitis: you could try a hwe kernel, but first try another mouse
[16:26] <tomreyn> MikeRL: the recommendation i was given is to use snaps
[16:26] <sayo-> ioria: fsck says all is good
[16:27] <sayo-> looks like there's no clear lead about what it causing this problem
[16:27] <ioria> sayo-, nope
[16:28] <MikeRL> tomreyn, By what source?
[16:28] <ioria> sayo-,   if you have an outdated bios, (idt so),you can update it
[16:28] <sayo-> I'll try to use windows more intensively and see if it crashes (so far it's worked OK), that would at least confirm that my disk is OK
[16:29] <tomreyn> MikeRL: i forgot
[16:29] <sayo-> no, bios is up to date
[16:29] <ioria> ok
[16:29] <MikeRL> tomreyn, The snap version of Firefox doesn't work so well with DRM. And some themeing stuff is broken.
[16:29] <MikeRL> https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2018/03/firefox-snap-package-available
[16:31] <tomreyn> MikeRL: if you want the full set of embedded malware you'll need to resort to the packaged one.
[16:31] <tomreyn> MikeRL: i mean DRM
[16:32] <MikeRL> tomreyn, Isn't theming broken on it?
[16:33] <tomreyn> MikeRL: i dont know
[16:33] <MikeRL> I read once it had issues with CSD or something.
[16:33] <MikeRL> "Like the majority of Snap apps the Firefox snap also has theming issues. It works a-ok with the stock Ambiance theme but the second you try to use a less common GTK theme, like the new CommuniTheme, Arc or Canta, the snap fallback to using vanilla Adwaita for GTK styling."
[16:34] <sayo-> ioria: do you think formatting and reinstalling ubuntu would help?
[16:35] <sayo-> I don't get any bad blocks and the filesystem checks look OK, so I don't think it's worthwhile formatting
[16:41] <chingus> try this again:created container via: docker create   --name=tvheadend4   --net=host   -v /mnt/config/tvheadend:/config   -v /mnt/recordings:/recordings   -e PGID=1000 -e PUID=1000    -e  TZ=America/Mexico_City linuxserver/tvheadend was not able to to access the web page, continually not avail after issueing: sudo iptables -I INPUT 1 -p tcp -m tcp --dport 9981 -j ACCEPT I was able to connect does this have to do with the way I created the container?
[16:42] <chingus> or is this an issue with the host OS?
[16:46] <zjhxmjl> tomreyn:thx very much!solved
[16:51] <qwebirc4988> Hi I think I've manage to bork my python installations moving from 16.04 to 18.04, would someone be able to give me a hand in un-borking them?
[16:55] <Milesy> It seems my display issues are stemming from my DisplayLink driver. As soon as I install it, its fine, but when I reboot gnome refuses to start. I have not done any serious debugging yet but wondered if anyone else was using a DisplayLink USB/DVI-VGA adapter with 18.04 ?
[16:56] <Milesy> Apparantly it is not supported but there is a third party driver listed here - https://support.displaylink.com/forums/287786-displaylink-feature-suggestions/suggestions/34104508-support-ubuntu-18-04 - thats the one that messes up my system.
[16:57] <Milesy> the DisplayLInk 17 driver has problems on 18 so thats why the guy wrote his own for 18
[16:58] <StartingOver> Hello everyone, I have a rather basic question if you could help. I am going through a significant life change and have been running ubuntu on both my laptop and my desktop, but I'm going to have to pack it all up and go to a less powerful laptop until things get right again. I'm thinking the answer is yes, but I want to make sure. Both are Intel 64-bit chips, one being far more powerful than the other. I can simply just take the hard dr
[16:58] <StartingOver> ive from the desktop and put it in the laptop correct?
[16:58] <StartingOver> Thank you in advance
[16:59] <qwebirc4988> Anyone here available to help with my issues with python?
[17:01] <lotuspsychje> qwebirc4988: before volunteers can help, try to gather more details/info to understand your issue
[17:01] <ducasse> StartingOver: most likely. if you run into any issues it will most likely be with the display driver.
[17:04] <tomreyn> StartingOver: the other possibl eissue is UEFI vs BIOS booting. you'll need to booth the same way the old system was booted.
[17:05] <tomreyn> !details | qwebirc4988
[17:05] <pavlos> qwebirc4988: could you sudo apt install --reinstall python27 and python35? just wondering ...
[17:07] <qwebirc4988> I moved from 16.04 to 18.04. I am now unable to launch gnome-terminal. After some messing about I have ended up with "python3" symlinked to "python3.7", and running gnome-terminal (using xterm) results in the message "ImportError: cannot import name '_gi' from 'gi' (/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/gi/__init__.py"
[17:08] <StartingOver> thank you i'm not really looking at UEFI as being the issue... @ducasse I'm hoping that it will just default to the precious little built in intel graphics drivers and i'll have a brief moment of peace in my life ... thank you both @ducasse and @ tomreyn
[17:09] <qwebirc4988> pavlos: I just tried this now it said unable to locate package python[27/35]
[17:09] <bipul> Hi, could anyone please help me to understand the default FORWARD chain policy created by libvirt. https://pastebin.com/raw/LZsG4kUH   I'm not sure why i'm  able to ping from node1 to node2
[17:10] <mrelcee> I have a ubuntu 17.0.4 server that I want to upgrade to 18 LTS.     how might I do that?  It errors out because the servers are no longer there since it's E/O/L
[17:10] <daemon> does ubuntu server have a seperate channel
[17:10] <lotuspsychje> !server
[17:10] <daemon> ta
[17:10] <ducasse> !eolupgrade | mrelcee
[17:10] <pavlos> qwebirc4988: do you have any ppa's? does a "sudo apt update" come clean?
[17:12] <pavlos> qwebirc4988: you should have python2.7 ... "whereis python" will give you the paths
[17:13] <tomreyn> StartingOver: prepare a usb installer / live stick with the same ubuntu version you have on disk now, just in case.
[17:16] <pavlos> qwebirc4988: ls -l /usr/bin/python* will show you the sym links for all python installs
[17:20] <ioria> qwebirc4988,  python3.7  is not present in xenial, so you installed it 'after'the upgrade (unless you used a ppa)
[17:21] <qwebirc4988> apt update does not come clean, but I'm struggling to copy from the xterm, so I can't yet give you a link to the output. "whereis python" gives various python files listed, same issues as above in being unable to copy so can't currently give full readout. Finally the last gives that I have the following symlinks: python -> python2.7, python2 -> python2.7 and python3 -> python3.7.
[17:21] <lotuspsychje> mrelcee: see also the recent security flaws for your eol version !usn cause your server might be not so trustable at this point
[17:21] <ioria> qwebirc4988,  you probably need to remake the link to /usr/bin/python
[17:21] <pavlos> qwebirc4988: please fix update first
[17:21] <qwebirc4988> I think I may have installed python 3.7 myself, I do have python 3.5, 3.6 and 3.7
[17:22] <mrelcee> lotuspsychje It was just installed.  I couldn't get 16 o 18 to boot after install in my VM environment.  all i'm looking to do is upgrade it to 18 LTS
[17:23] <ducasse> mrelcee: see the link from ubottu
[17:23] <ioria> qwebirc4988,  paste here  :  ls -l  /usr/bin/python
[17:25] <qwebirc4988> ioria, do you know how to copy from xterm? Neither crtl-c or ctrl-shift-c work.
[17:26] <ioria> qwebirc4988,  just what follows '->'
[17:26] <ducasse> qwebirc4988: highlight with left mousebutton, paste with middle button or shift+insert
[17:26] <ioria> qwebirc4988,  shift + ins
[17:27] <qwebirc4988> ioria, after the -> is python2.7
[17:28] <ioria> qwebirc4988,  ok   ls -l  /usr/bin/python3
[17:28] <qwebirc4988> Also those suggestions work for pasting into xterm for me, I don't know how to copy from it however.
[17:28] <qwebirc4988> ioria, I get -> python3.7
[17:29] <ioria> qwebirc4988,   wrong i guess, should be 3.6
[17:29] <ioria> qwebirc4988,  do yo have a binary   python3.6 ?   ls   /usr/bin/python3.6
[17:30] <qwebirc4988> Yes
[17:30] <qwebirc4988> I have 2.7, 3.6, 3.6, 3.
[17:30] <pavlos> qwebirc4988: does gnome-terminal exist? would that be easier instead of xterm?
[17:30] <qwebirc4988> .7
[17:30] <ioria> qwebirc4988,  ok, remove /usr/bin/python3 and link to /usr/bin/python3.6
[17:31] <qwebirc4988> pavlos, my issue is that gnome-terminal won't run with my current python issues :(
[17:31] <pavlos> qwebirc4988: ok
[17:31] <MikeRL> Hmm. This may be hardware related, but I do have another question. Besides this, which I've ordered: https://www.ifixit.com/Store/Tools/Precision-Screw-Extractor-Set/IF145-118-1 How can I best go about removing a stripped screw from a laptop?
[17:31] <lotuspsychje> MikeRL: ask in ##hardware please
[17:32] <ioria> qwebirc4988,  sudo rm /usr/bin/python3    and  sudo  ln -s /usr/bin/python3.6 /usr/bin/python3
[17:34] <qwebirc4988> ioria, I removed python 3 but it gave the error: "ERROR: ld.so: object 'libgtk3.nocsd.so.0' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded (can not open shared object file): ignored.". Creating the symlink gave the same error, but both operations appeard to succeed regardless.
[17:35] <ioria> qwebirc4988,     ls -l  /usr/bin/python3
[17:35] <qwebirc4988> Correctly symlinked to 3.6
[17:36] <ioria> qwebirc4988,    sudo sudp apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade
[17:36] <ioria> qwebirc4988,    sudo sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade
[17:36] <s10gopal> can i use my mobile(android) as speaker by connecting it via usb cable?
[17:38] <qwebirc4988> ioria, dpkg has an error. "dpkg: error processing package python3-chardet (--configure)\n package is in a very bad inconsistent state; you should\n reinstall it before attempting configuration"
[17:39] <lotuspsychje> s10gopal: i think you need specific software to make your phone act as something else
[17:39] <ioria> qwebirc4988,    sudo sudo apt install --reinstall  python3-chardet
[17:41] <qwebirc4988> It warned about the same issue with python3-debian, should I do the same procedure with that?
[17:41] <ioria> qwebirc4988,    let's try
[17:41] <ioria> qwebirc4988,    i'am becoming pessimistic
[17:44] <qwebirc4988> ioria, well I no longer get the python import issue, instead I get the error regarding the ld.so object.
[17:45] <ioria> qwebirc4988,    sudo sudo apt install --reinstall  libgtk3-nocsd0
[17:46] <MikeRL> lotuspsychje, Thanks.
[17:48] <qwebirc4988> Well I no longer get any errors, but also no gnome terminal :'(
[17:49] <ioria> qwebirc4988,   sudo apt install --reinstall gnome-terminal
[17:50] <ioria> qwebirc4988,   and start it from xterm
[17:52] <qwebirc4988> ioria, "# E rror constructing proxy for org.gnome.Terminal:/org/gnome/Terminal/Factory0:\n Error calling StartServiceByNme for org.gnome.Terminal: Timeout was reached
[17:53] <ioria> qwebirc4988,   are you root ?
[17:54] <qwebirc4988> Ah, "sudo gnome-terminal" works correctly
[17:54] <ioria> qwebirc4988,   not what i meant, but ok
[17:55] <CoolerZ> omg nothing works with openjdk
[17:55] <CoolerZ> every stupid thing i want to use says "use the oracle jdk"
[17:56] <ioria> qwebirc4988,   try this : https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=233880
[17:58] <qwebirc4988> ioria, I'm probably going to drop as I try restarting the gnome session. I'll let you know when I'm back and who I am.
[17:59] <ioria> qwebirc4988,   ok
[17:59] <Vic2> I have an application which I run multiple instances of both on Ubuntu 14 and 16 ... when I run it on 14, I get one single icon and upon right clicking, I get a list of all the instances and can then choose one by clicking on it.  When I run it in 16 I get multiple icons ... I want to stack these icons as they are in 14.  However when I check xprop of the icon (in 14 and 16) I get WM_CLASS:  not found.  I am stumped ... how can I achieve what I am wanting to acc
[17:59] <Vic2> omplish.
[18:00] <ioria> qwebirc4988,  i'd also check with a new user (probably a personal setting issue or about your loclaes)
[18:01] <on3pk> if I want to remove a repository from apt, can I delete the .list file in /etc/apt/sources.list.d?
[18:01] <on3pk> or will that cause corruption somewhere else
[18:04] <pavlos> on3pk: sudo add-apt-repository --remove ppa:whatever/ppa
[18:06] <ducasse> on3pk: or use ppa-purge to also remove the packages installed from that ppa
[18:06] <on3pk> oh ok
[18:06] <ducasse> !ppa-purge
[18:08] <ducasse> on3pk: that is strongly recommended before upgrading to a later release
[18:10] <on3pk> When I upgrade releases, I'll make sure to do that.
[18:10] <Avion> help me please. 18.04 keyring password wont vanish. i want to reset it toy password. (read lots of sites)  have definitely removed  ~/.local/share/keyrings/login.keyring  and did annlsnon the directory to doublecheck. (am feeling frustration and blockage)
[18:11] <Avion> did an ls on the directory
[18:13] <Condar15> Hi ioria, After playing with the locale settings and restarting I now appear to be able to use the gnome terminal as expected.
[18:15] <Avion> 5 mins
[18:20] <Ascavasaion> I did a dist upgrade from 16.01.1 to 18.04.1 and the GUI does not start.  It stgarts, gives Grub menu... shows the booting progress... and then freezes.  I am guessing that it is a graphics driver issue?  the only way I get it to bot is by adding /nomodeset in grub boot optionbs, but that is not a fix, and it does not allow me to do extended desktops as I did before the upgrade.
[18:21] <ioria> Condar15, good
[18:23] <Ascavasaion> Could this be the problem? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/1752938
[18:34] <tomreyn> Ascavasaion: whats your graphics hardware(s)?
[18:35] <Ascavasaion> tomreyn: lspci gives:
[18:35] <Ascavasaion> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
[18:35] <Ascavasaion> 00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS/GME, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
[18:36] <ioria> Ascavasaion, there's a bug fot that chipset,idk if solved
[18:36] <ioria> Ascavasaion, uname -r ?
[18:37] <Ascavasaion> 4.15.0-33-generic
[18:37] <ioria> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1724639
[18:38] <ioria> Ascavasaion,   check #109 #110
[18:40] <Ascavasaion> ioria: Would I add that into the grub at the beginning where I typed /nomodeset ?
[18:41] <ioria> Ascavasaion,    in /etc/default/grub and run  sudo update-grub
[18:41] <Ascavasaion> ioria: Or do I do something like this... https://duckduckgo.com/?q=GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX%3Dtext&t=hi&atb=v125-5__&ia=qa&iax=qa
[18:41] <Ascavasaion> HAHA... okay... let me try
[18:45] <Ascavasaion> Going to reboot... see you soon... hopefully.
[18:52] <multifractal> Is there something for Ubuntu that works as simply and easily as Airdrop on macs?
[19:02] <ducasse> multifractal: https://alternativeto.net/software/airdrop/?platform=linux
[19:20] <CoolerZ> how does ubuntu find java?
[19:21] <CoolerZ> when i do java --version i get openjdk 10.0.2
[19:21] <CoolerZ> instead of jdk 1.8.x
[19:21] <CoolerZ> JAVA_HOME is set to point at 1.8.x
[19:22] <Ascavasaion> ioria: I did what you said... it would not boot... so I had to get it back to the way it was with krytarik's help.  Any other suggestions? ;-)
[19:22] <ioria> nope
[19:38] <zumba_addict> looks like something got messed up on my linux machine after a strong lightning. It still boots up but the resolution is 640x480 and network interfaces are not coming up anymore
[19:39] <zumba_addict> the led on the network port still turns on
[19:39] <zumba_addict> no error in  /var/log/syslog
[19:39] <zumba_addict> I haven't check CMOS yet
[19:41] <ducasse> any errors in dmesg?
[19:41] <zumba_addict> none
[19:42] <zumba_addict> which is really weird
[19:42] <zumba_addict> i've rebooted it 5 times with no luck. I only see loopback when running ifconfig
[19:42] <zumba_addict> the lightning was really bad, there was a power outage
[19:43] <_KaszpiR_> your systtem is corrupted, backup, and full reinstall.
[19:43] <zumba_addict> most likely
[19:44] <Ascavasaion> krytarik: I fixed it... sort of.  I did a sudo remove gdm3 then sudo apt-get install lightdm and then a sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm anmd then sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm and then a I rebooted.  It all looks like it used to except that the start bar at the bottom is on the wrong display now for some reason.
[19:44] <_KaszpiR_> just dont waste your time, not worth it
[19:44] <zumba_addict> i was using lvm which I was hoping would recover
[19:44] <zumba_addict> I'm thinking could be hardware, I hope not
[19:45] <_KaszpiR_> hardware would rahter trigger kernel panic
[19:45] <zumba_addict> let me check cmos, maybe it got disabled
[19:45] <zumba_addict> k
[19:45] <krytarik> Ascavasaion: Huh.. but thanks! :)
[19:46] <Ascavasaion> krytarik: I don;t understand why that worked... got the solution here... https://askubuntu.com/questions/1030483/stuck-at-ubuntu-18-04-logo-while-booting-after-installing
[20:10] <Ascavasaion> Thank you for your help earlier krytarik, tomreyn, and ioria.  Night night all.
[20:50] <prod__> Hi all, Can someone explain to me why when using plink to ssh to my ubuntu host "virsh list" doesnt show any hosts but using putty interactively it works as expected listing my windows vm.
[20:56] <tomreyn> prod__: maybe you authenticate differently (different user?) or the environment differs (run 'env' after connecting both ways, compare outputs). but this is really a putty (on windows?) question.
[21:02] <prod__> I have noticed when running env that "LIBVIRT_DEFAULT_URI=qemu:///system" does not exist in non interactive mode among many other differences but I am logging in correctly as username is the same on both
[21:08] <texla> tomreyn, I installed Kubuntu on my external hdd using grub 2.02 the name of the default is Ubuntu rather than Kubuntu..In older versions of grub the default name was normally The program name in parenthesis rather than the 0 now used..It boot properly just a nuisance
[21:11] <supercool> Hello oflks!
[21:11] <supercool> *folks!
[21:11] <supercool> :D
[21:11] <supercool> Could someone help me with a mysql error as "ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)"
[21:11] <supercool> please?
[21:34] <Ben64> supercool: https://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.5/en/problems-connecting.html
[22:02] <OOO1337777> psst ... https://github.com/1337777/maclane
[22:07] <ducasse> OOO1337777: no spam here, please
[22:08] <OOO1337777> ducasse: OK
[22:09] <Mr-Potter> Hi everyone
[22:09] <Mr-Potter> How do I find out if Xubuntu is 32 bit or 64 bit?
[22:09] <Mr-Potter> Also how do I reset my password?
[22:09] <Ben64> uname -m
[22:09] <leftyfb> Mr-Potter: uname -m
[22:10] <leftyfb> Mr-Potter: you can change your password in the "users" utility in settings or using the command-line util passwd
[22:10] <Mr-Potter> got it
[22:10] <Mr-Potter> do I type uname username -m?
[22:10] <leftyfb> Mr-Potter: you asked 2 questions
[22:10] <Ben64> why did you add 'username' in there
[22:10] <leftyfb> I answered both
[22:11] <Mr-Potter> leftyfb: Thank you
[22:11] <Mr-Potter> Ben64: Because I plan to do that as root
[22:12] <Mr-Potter> Actually I didn't understand the answer disregard what I said
[22:12] <Mr-Potter> how do I use util passwd
[22:12] <Ben64> man passwd
[22:12] <Mr-Potter> do I type passwd username?
[22:12] <Mr-Potter> got it
[22:24] <Vic2> I have an application which I run multiple instances of both on Ubuntu 14 and 16 ... when I run it on 14, I get one single icon and upon right clicking, I get a list of all the instances and can then choose one by clicking on it.  When I run it in 16 I get multiple icons ... I want to stack these icons as they are in 14.  However when I check xprop of the icon (in 14 and 16) I get WM_CLASS:  not found.  I am stumped ... how can I achieve what I am wanting to acc
[22:24] <Vic2> omplish.
[22:31] <ryuo> Vic2: it sounds like the difference is in the tray grouping instances or not.
[22:31] <ryuo> Vic2: pehraps look for a setting for that?
[22:44] <mouses> Hey everyone - having a super strange issue.  The 32 GB usb stick that I used to install 16.04 with - I used a 'sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdc bs=512 count=1' to nuke it, created new partition table, created a new ext4 partition - it mounts and works fine, but for some reason... ~700 MB is in use, and this system tries to boot it (and fails) if it's plugged in during boot.  http://i.imgur.com/nMNn4Gg.png <-
[22:44] <mouses> gparted info on the drive
[22:45] <mouses> How do I find/remove whatever is using that space and trying to make it bootable?
[22:45] <texla> Install Kubuntu used grub 2.0.2 the menu shows Ubuntu..Yet it boots to Kubuntu which is correct../etc/default/grub show set to zero and /boot/grub/grub.conf show Ubuntu
[22:49] <texla> mouses can you pastebin  sudo parted /dev/sdc print free
[22:50] <mouses> texla: coming right up
[22:51] <mouses> texla: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/pSzxTcWZZQ/
[22:52] <Ben64> looks normal
[22:52] <mouses> texla: yet somehow ~700MB is in use and if the stick is plugged in at boot time, it tries to boot it and fails
[22:52] <mouses> Ben64: Yeah, I know :(
[22:52] <Ben64> 700MB is normal too
[22:52] <Ben64> and the boot thing is your bios being dumb
[22:52] <mouses> Ben64: Hmmm, weird - 700MB overhead?
[22:52] <Ben64> yep
[22:52] <mouses> Showing as in use on the actual partition?  /dev/sdc1 ?
[22:53] <Ben64> yep
[22:53] <mouses> never in my life experience behavior like that
[22:53] <Ben64> lemme find a drive to partition
[22:53] <mouses> have like 9 USB sticks plugged in here
[22:53] <mouses> it's the only one that does anything like that
[22:53] <mouses> and some are MUCH larger
[22:54] <mouses> Ben64: thanks in advance, this is just weird
[22:57] <phocking> hey i did something stupid to fill up my / partition
[22:57] <phocking> i think maybe i did something wrong with lvm when adding another disk?
[22:59] <phocking> df says /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-ubuntu--lv       3.9G  3.9G     0 100% /
[23:01] <sayo-> any hint on how to find the latest drivers for my wifi card? the one in the manufacturer website is older than the one ubuntu 18 comes with
[23:01] <Ben64> mouses: https://imgur.com/SQnfPuq
[23:02] <Ben64> sayo-: does it work in ubuntu now
[23:02] <mouses> Ben64: I think you are right - just did a reboot and noticed I get a 'boot fail' message on every single USB stick plgged in, just a dumb bios thing - and most sticks are showing ~ 5% in use even though empty
[23:03] <mouses> Ben64: thanks, turns out it was just PBCAK :)
[23:03] <sayo-> Ben64: sort of, it works but it fails randomly and cause havok on the system
[23:03] <Ben64> sayo-: what card
[23:04] <sayo-> Ben64: it's super weird, but in dmesg there's a line with an error from the wifi card, and then everything starts getting crazy (the mounted partition switches to ready-only and I start getting Input Output errors everywhere)
[23:04] <sayo-> Ben64: https://www.tp-link.com/il/download/TL-WN881ND.html V2
[23:04] <Ben64> sounds like you've got a bigger problem than wifi then
[23:05] <sayo-> that's the card and those are the drivers, the drivers in the website are rtl8192EE_linux_v4.3.15.1 while I'm currently running with rtl8192ee 4.15.0-33-generic
[23:06] <Ben64> i bet it's not a wifi issue
[23:06] <sayo-> Ben64: yup, but it looks like the last random crash got started by the wifi driver
[23:06] <Ben64> unlikely
[23:06] <sayo-> just a second, I'll show you dmesg
[23:09] <phocking> im trying to increase the size of /run
[23:09] <phocking> i put this in /etc/rc.local
[23:09] <phocking> mount -t tmpfs tmpfs /run -o remount,size=4G
[23:09] <phocking> but /run is only 2g
[23:09] <phocking> or 1.6 or something
[23:10] <sayo-> it randomly starts behaving (ex firefox sort of "freezes" although some tabs work), until I get some input out error and eventually it ends on a crash
[23:10] <sayo-> Ben64: https://imgur.com/a/zkdylVM there you go
[23:10] <Ben64> picture of text?
[23:10] <sayo-> sorry it's not a text dump but because of the input output issues I couldn't write the output to a file
[23:12] <sayo-> it starts with BUG unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference, the next line reads ex_bct8192e2ant_bt_info_notify ...
[23:12] <sayo-> that's the wifi card
[23:13] <sayo-> then it says RIP ex_bct8192e2ant_bt_info_notify (lol) and the input output errors start
[23:13] <phocking> i need /run bigger
[23:14] <Ben64> sayo-: you could try a mainline kernel
[23:15] <sayo-> Ben64: right after it kills kct8192e2... dmesg says WRITE FPDMA QUEUED, that's where the SSD fails or whatever and at some point it goes into read-only mode
[23:15] <sayo-> computer become useless, can't open any new window because of these weird input output errors, so I have to reboot by hand
[23:17] <sayo-> Ben64: if I install mainline kernel, I still keep the stable one, right?
[23:17] <Ben64> yep
[23:17] <texla>  Install Kubuntu used grub 2.0.2 the menu shows Ubuntu..Yet it boots to Kubuntu which is correct../etc/default/grub show set to zero and /boot/grub/grub.conf show Ubuntu
[23:17] <sayo-> Ben64: I could try, I guess
[23:20] <sayo-> Ben64: thank you, Ill try that
[23:20] <sayo-> I'll try to get an ethernet cable and switch off the wifi card
[23:23] <Vic2> ryuo - googling 'ubuntu tray grouping' gives me what I found before ... need to add the WM_CLASS to the .desktop file ... but nothing indicates what to do when it is not found by xprop.  any specific info you can share?
[23:23] <ryuo> Vic2: perhaps it means the WM_CLASS the actual instance window?
[23:25] <Vic2> Hmm, can try that at a later time after I hook a physical monitor back up to it. vnc is not connecting. sigh. :(
[23:29] <phocking> how can i extend logical volume for /
[23:31] <phocking> something is really hosed lol
[23:46] <Vic2> ryuo that was it thank you.  now I need to add StartupWMClass=roboevony.exe to the .desktop ... I have no .desktop in my home dir ... is that the location I need to create it or somewhere else?
[23:47] <Vic2> or do I need to place it at ~/.local/share/applications
[23:49] <Vic2> Hmm, looking at that location there is a .desktop file for the application and when I click on it to open in gedit, I get a pop-up that says Untrusted Application Launcher ...
[23:49] <Vic2> The application launcher \u201croboevony_exe.desktop\u201d has not been marked as trusted. If you do not know the source of this file, launching it may be unsafe.
[23:50] <Vic2> So as you can see ryuo I am clueless ...