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IrcsomeBot<Santa> Oh, just a note:00:48
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IrcsomeBot<Santa> I didn't find the glorious logs of someone from debian refusing to automate the kde packaging because "it would prevent to work in a teamworked fashion00:49
IrcsomeBot<Santa> I have, however an old post when they uploaded their fork of kubuntu's frameworks 5 / plasma 5 packaging to sid00:50
IrcsomeBot<Santa> https://forum.siduction.org/index.php?topic=5644.000:50
IrcsomeBot<Santa> Context: 1. the packages were developed for kubuntu 2. debian's people didn't make the needed adjustments 3. they broke everybodies desktops (both debian sid and debian testing) for months00:52
IrcsomeBot<Santa> Would you image what would happen if we were happily syncing packages from debian sid?00:53
IrcsomeBot<Santa> That's the reason why we should stay away as much as possible from what these "bright individuals" are doing00:55
IrcsomeBot<Santa> Btw they didn't send a single patch to kubuntu until they just copied the packaging in such unprofessional way00:56
IrcsomeBot<Santa> So nothing more to add to the "bright individuals" and "debian is our upstream" discussion00:56
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wxlon the other hand, kubuntu, along with every other flavor of ubuntu is ubuntu. and ubuntu's upstream is debian. whether or not the idea of doing something different is valid, it's certainly at odds with the way ubuntu and kubuntu has always been, by design. luckily, ubuntu does have its own system of patches that are often applied to debian packages. there's no reason to be stifled by debian packaging.01:36
IrcsomeBot<Santa> we have a minimal delta with kde debian packages jftr01:38
IrcsomeBot<Santa> the most important difference is how we deploy them to the infra of each distro01:39
wxlyes, but ubuntu has its own system. again, by design01:39
wxlif you want to do something different, that's great01:39
wxlbut it's not ubuntu at that point01:39
IrcsomeBot<Santa> what you mean it's not ubuntu?01:40
wxlubuntu syncs from debian. debian is the upstream01:41
wxland there really is one set of repositories for ubuntu01:42
wxlall the flavors share that01:42
IrcsomeBot<Santa> debian didn't have their own plasma 5 / frameworks packages, they are a fork of kubuntu's, so well, not our "upstream" in the case of kde packages01:43
IrcsomeBot<Santa> and I doubt they will ever have the manpower to package all by themselves from scratch, probably if plasma 6 means repackaging some stuff we will probably have to work with neon01:45
IrcsomeBot<Santa> but I'm not a "futurologist" so we will see01:45
wxli thought the context was about qt?01:47
IrcsomeBot<Santa> yeah, well the problem with qt is that is a simllar situation than kde packages01:47
IrcsomeBot<Santa> they aren't a few, they are a bunch of them released at the same time, and the way I see it uploading them one by one then syncing them one by one is ... well ... not the right path to follow01:49
IrcsomeBot<Santa> and yes, I know about the damned bootstraping XD01:50
IrcsomeBot<Santa> but that can be handled too01:50
wxlit's a little weird that for kde we're the upstream for debian. but it doesn't have a lot of potential for conflict. qt is widely used, though. and afaik there is actually a debian team packaging qt.01:51
IrcsomeBot<Santa> well we aren't their upstream either, because they do their own thing and haters gonna hate01:52
wxlare you confusing your pronouns?01:53
wxlbecause that to me sounds like the sort of normal situation01:53
IrcsomeBot<Santa> @wxl, I don't think so01:55
wxllike with lxqt, it's developed by lxqt, debian packages it, ubuntu syncs it, lubuntu uses it01:55
wxlif lubuntu was the upstream for debian it would be lxqt -> lubuntu -> ubuntu -> debian01:56
wxlso "we aren't their upstream" suggests that the upstream would not be *buntu01:57
IrcsomeBot<Santa> I meant "we are not debian's kde packaging upstream"01:58
IrcsomeBot<Santa> because they o their own thing01:58
wxlyou already established that. again, the context is about qt01:58
IrcsomeBot<Santa> right, and syncing from debian and doing it one by one manually is slow01:59
wxlalong with all the other thousands of packages that are exactly the same01:59
IrcsomeBot<Santa> so it would be better to have an automated solution like what we are doing with kde packages01:59
IrcsomeBot<Santa> it's not the same thing02:00
wxlthen logically, that would apply to every other package in the repos02:00
IrcsomeBot<Santa> no, it's not the same thing02:00
wxlsure it is02:00
IrcsomeBot<Santa> what we have with qt is:02:00
IrcsomeBot<Santa> 1) we need a newer qt02:01
IrcsomeBot<Santa> 2) debian doesn't provide it02:01
wxli don't think debian doesn't provide it because they don't want to02:01
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IrcsomeBot<Santa> 3) then simon & friends start to upload the packages to debian one by one02:01
IrcsomeBot<Santa> 4) then sync02:01
IrcsomeBot<Santa> and that's awfully slow02:02
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> No it isn't.02:02
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> What is slow is proposed migration.02:02
wxlit's the same with every other package in the repos02:02
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> And that's Ubuntu.02:02
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> We did the Qt transition within a week of Debian's.02:02
IrcsomeBot<Santa> @wxl, it's not the same02:02
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> Yes it is.02:02
wxlhow is it not the same? the only way it seems different is that you care about qt and don't really care about the others. i'm not saying that's a bad, but it is what it is.02:03
IrcsomeBot<Santa> @tsimonq2, Well I have seen some packages sitting there for ~3 weeks being slowly synced02:03
wxlhaving more developers helping with migration (ubuntu) and packaging (debian) would certainly make a difference02:03
IrcsomeBot<Santa> @wxl, qt packages are released at the same time and they can be automated like kde packages, this logic can be applied to any package "suite"02:04
IrcsomeBot<Santa> you could apply the same philosphy to gnome packages probably02:04
wxlthat would require debian to accept that02:04
wxlas they did with kde/frameworks02:04
wxlso if you want that, you'd need to run that up their flagpole02:04
IrcsomeBot<Santa> not really02:04
IrcsomeBot<Santa> we aren't asking for debian's permission to automate our kde packages02:05
wxlat present they are taking our packaging as the canonical source02:05
wxlthere's no need to ask for permission02:05
wxlbut again, that's at odds with the way everything else is done02:06
IrcsomeBot<Santa> they aren't resusing our packaging afaik02:06
wxlwe should count our blessings that we even have such control over kde packaging02:06
wxlyou said they "forked" it02:06
IrcsomeBot<Santa> I mean they copied it once, then they started to maintain the packages on their own02:07
wxlah02:07
IrcsomeBot<Santa> but they aren't "merging" from kubuntu02:07
wxlwell then it's ubuntu who has let us do something different02:07
wxlso you'd need to speak to the technical board02:07
IrcsomeBot<Santa> well, before anything I would like to work with Rik on those Qt backports, do it in an automated way to have a prototype02:08
IrcsomeBot<Santa> I already have some code, but it needs to be fixed02:09
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> Qt is delicate enough that it really needs to be done by hand.02:09
wxlif i were you, i wouldn't waste my time. i would check with the technical board first. they might just give you a hard no instead of a "show us what you got"02:09
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> I know as someone who's packaged the last three releases.02:09
IrcsomeBot<Santa> I packaged qt as well02:10
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IrcsomeBot<Santa> @wxl, we really need something to have, at least our own "private" qt versions02:10
IrcsomeBot<Santa> meaning "private", packages for the KCI and such02:11
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> @Santa, What do you have to show for it? You have no upload access anywhere proving your claims are valid.02:11
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> @Santa, Why not just contribute fixes to the normal packaging?02:12
wxlkubuntu, as a flavor of ubuntu, is governed by the technical board. as far as i know they have no other such allowance for a flavor using their own packaging02:12
IrcsomeBot<Santa> @tsimonq2, both things aren't incompatible02:12
wxlyou can't go rogue and expect no one to notice02:12
IrcsomeBot<Santa> I'm not going rogue, I'm just going to do something with our PPA's02:13
IrcsomeBot<Santa> that's what PPAs are for02:13
wxland we02:14
wxlre going to enable these ppas by default?02:14
IrcsomeBot<Santa> ?02:14
wxlwhat part don't you understand02:15
wxl??02:15
IrcsomeBot<Santa> "ppas enabled by default"02:15
wxlyou're saying the final "product" would be a newer Qt in a PPA?02:15
IrcsomeBot<Santa> nobody is going to enable anything, I just want to work with rik in plasma 5.13 + needed newer qt for kubuntu backports02:16
IrcsomeBot<Santa> but we will do the work in staging ppas first, etc.02:17
IrcsomeBot<Santa> the only difference is that I want to automate the process better, that's it02:17
wxlwhich, sadly, many kubuntu users will not see02:18
wxl(as they don't see the ppas as it is; they're not enabled by default)02:18
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IrcsomeBot<Santa> well, backports need to be added manually, yes02:19
wxlwhereas if you actually spent the time fixing the upstream packaging, everyone in the entire debian ecosystem could benefit from it02:20
IrcsomeBot<Santa> are they ppa's enabled by default in [k]ubuntu?02:20
wxlseems...... illogical02:20
wxlnope02:20
IrcsomeBot<Santa> but I won't be "fixing the packaging" I will work on the automation programs to _deploy_ the qt packaging we already have02:21
wxlto deploy it where?02:21
IrcsomeBot<Santa> first to  a staging ppa and then to kubuntu's backports ppa if everything is ok02:22
wxlif the goal is to support all of kubuntu users, that doesn't really do it, though02:22
IrcsomeBot<Santa> well, it's already something, then if ubuntu's qt people wants to use it instead of uploading everything manually, great02:24
wxlso you want to do something becuse it's convenient rather than doing things the canonical way, even if it does not benefit all the users?02:25
wxli'm all for convenience but i would put the users first and foremost02:26
IrcsomeBot<Santa> a) (Rik|Santa) uploads the qt packaging one by one manually to kubuntu's backports. (Rik|Santa) ends up like Jack Nicholson in "The Shining"02:28
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* wxl facepalms02:28
IrcsomeBot<Santa> b) Santa does some python code. Rik uploads the qt packaging just typing a few commands02:28
IrcsomeBot<Santa> which one is better?02:28
wxla02:29
IrcsomeBot<Santa> b is better02:30
wxlnope02:30
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> A ensures better technical quality.02:30
wxlif b was better, we'd be doing it with every other package02:30
IrcsomeBot<Santa> nope02:30
IrcsomeBot<Santa> that applies only to package "suites"02:30
wxlb is an example of "local optimizing" which is a case of doing this for the benefit of a particular portion of a whole system, at the disadvantage of the entire system02:31
IrcsomeBot<Santa> there isn't any disadvantage for the entire system02:31
wxlyou're asking the entire system to retool based around your convenience and making users NOT have the best possible option right out of the gate02:32
wxlif the newer qt is better, you'd want everyone to have it02:32
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> We aren't KDE Neon.02:33
IrcsomeBot<Santa> but we have backports02:33
IrcsomeBot<Santa> and backports are to provide newer releases02:33
wxlwhich doesn't come standard02:34
wxlso only those users that know about them will have them02:34
wxlthey actually have to find them02:34
IrcsomeBot<Santa> and yeah, we aren't kde neon, that's why many people is swtiching to neon XD02:34
IrcsomeBot<Santa> because we don't provide a competitive alternative02:34
wxland if you don't like that, then neon awaits you02:34
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> We're Kubuntu, we prioritize stability over speed.02:34
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> That's the difference.02:35
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> You install Kubuntu if you want a super stable KDE experience. You install Neon if you want New Shiny.02:35
IrcsomeBot<Santa> LOL02:35
IrcsomeBot<Santa> they aren't incompatible02:35
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> Yes they are.02:35
IrcsomeBot<Santa> No, another problem is if you aren't able to do both at the same time.02:36
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> Not when speed hinders stability.02:36
IrcsomeBot<tsimonq2> That's the point.02:36
wxllook you have your heart in the right place santa, but i'm not sure your solution is really going to solve anything for the vast majority of users, especially when we consider the vast majority of qt users.02:37
IrcsomeBot<Santa> ok, we will see02:38
wxlthere's nothing to see unless you can convince debian to pick up on whatever you're doing02:38
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IrcsomeBot<Santa> well, indeed, part of the problem is that stubborness regarding debian02:39
wxlbut if you worked with debian on the packaging, the problem would be solved02:39
wxlor go really crazy and help qt get debian packaging02:40
IrcsomeBot<Santa> I already worked with those "bright individuals" believe me I'm not going to repeat the experience02:41
IrcsomeBot<Santa> If I got so angry with them that they had to kick me out ... there's a reason for that02:42
wxlyes, there is02:42
IrcsomeBot<Santa> or various reasons actually, it's because all of a sudden I got angry, they are in my experience technically incompetente, abusive, lazy and stubborn. so as I said I don't want to repeat the experience02:44
wxlif there's a system that existed and done things a certain way for years and then someone comes along who demands they change the system, that's probably not going to go particularly well. you need to work within the systems that exist in the communities you are involved in, try to work with those communicities to change the system (and accept if it doesn't happen), or move on02:45
IrcsomeBot<Santa> * it's not because all of a sudden I got angy02:45
IrcsomeBot<Santa> * angry LOL02:45
IrcsomeBot<Santa> or work for debian's competition and provide a better product02:46
wxlthat's the moving on thing02:46
wxlit's a perfectly reasonable response if you can't do the other two options02:46
IrcsomeBot<Santa> which is becoming increasingly more difficult in the case of kubuntu, yet imho we are doing a better product than debian02:46
wxlkubuntu, like all the flavors of ubuntu, is bound by certain requirements that ubuntu (and in turn, debian) have. that hasn't changed02:47
wxlto be truthful, i don't think it's fair to consider kubuntu to mean kubuntu+kubuntu ppas. they don't come by default. kubuntu is just kubuntu. the ppas are (honestly) a shoddy workaround.02:49
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wxli got to admit kubuntu is a little bit different because it's one of the earliest flavors, but i'm quite sure we do not have infinite leeway02:51
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IrcsomeBot<acheronuk> FYI, KCI Qt upgraded to 5.11.1 for bionic. There may be breakage for a short while, while packages dependant on Qt ABI rebuild07:36
Jussio/07:44
acheronukmorning07:47
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IrcsomeBot<Santa> morning08:12
IrcsomeBot<acheronuk> (Photo, 710x466) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/gYl5F0wM/file_9423.jpg08:14
IrcsomeBot<acheronuk> that worked08:14
santa_acheronuk: minor fix for cantor available in git, we still have the julia problem08:14
santa_note that there's a julia 1.0 packaging in debian's magnificent NEW queue: https://packages.qa.debian.org/j/julia.html08:15
acheronuksanta_: gotcha08:15
acheronuksanta_: cosmic has 0.6 and 0.7 in proposed. I guess not new enough. it was in the back of my mind to try with it, but not at front of my queue so to speak08:16
santa_acheronuk: the one in -proposed is failing for couple of archs, so build depending on it would get it blocked by britney if I'm not mistaken08:18
santa_even if it's new enough08:19
acheronukok08:19
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BluesKajhowdy all14:39
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IrcsomeBot<acheronuk> staging new frameworks17:16
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IrcsomeBot<Santa> @acheronuk I have just pushed the changes we discussed for kiten, it comes with a debian merge in the pack; feel free to review carefully because they are a fair bunch of changes18:57
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IrcsomeBot<acheronuk> @Santa, Ok. I will look in a bit, and the cantor fix19:04
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santa_acheronuk: fw 5.50 test build with autopkgtests: http://gpul.grupos.udc.es/build-status/buildstatus_ubuntu-exp/ubuntu-exp_status_frameworks.html19:27
IrcsomeBot<acheronuk> awesome. thanks19:28
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santa_@acheronuk: what are you doing with syndication? (aparently moving from apps to frameworks) just skipping it?19:44
santa_nevermind, you got it in the _staging branch19:45
IrcsomeBot<acheronuk> no, including it.19:45
santa_yeah, just saw the _staging branch, let's hope it doesn't break anythiing in apps19:46
IrcsomeBot<acheronuk> will need to tidy the packaging more I expect19:46
santa_I have included it in the test rebuild now. I almos miss it XD19:47
santa_* almost19:47
IrcsomeBot<acheronuk> there are very few changes after 18.04 and it's meant to be binary compatible19:47
IrcsomeBot<acheronuk> it's pretty much just akregator and ktorrent that use it. I use both so will test19:49
IrcsomeBot<acheronuk> and ktorrent 5.1.1 to upload sometime has been tested with it according to the -dev19:51
acheronuksanta_: urgh. looks like it will break akregator20:00
acheronuksanta_: will likely have to drop that one out, to come back when we can ship apps >= 18.0820:04
acheronuknot a big deal20:07
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acheronuksanta_: kiten and cantor uploaded. will have to get an AA to remove the dropped -dev package I guess 20:31
santa_acheronuk: thanks! let me know if we need to do further changes20:34
santa_i.e. in case the AA doesn't accept the removal or something20:35
acheronukok. will do20:36
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