[00:31] kc2bez was added by: kc2bez [01:47] @PZ✌️ 🇬🇧, But you are using Nvidia to setup the monitors? Or the lxqt app? [02:03] Hey @kc2bez! [02:04] Howdy @tsimonq2 ! [02:33] @tsimonq2: we need to get "this week in lubuntu development" back on the hub. thnk we can automate that? [02:34] @wxl, Does Discourse have an API with Python bindings? [02:38] @tsimonq2: it's a simple HTTP API https://docs.discourse.org/#tag/Posts%2Fpaths%2F~1posts.json%2Fpost [02:38] @wxl, But does it have Python bindings? :P [02:38] apparently you don't understand "simple HTTP API" [02:38] XD [02:38] python can do GET/POST requests, yes [02:39] Nah, I'm just messing with you. [02:39] Yeah, I can do that. [02:39] It just needs hooking into our blog script. [02:39] you could `curl` your way to it [02:42] @wxl, 😝😜😄 [03:01] @tsimonq2: do we have a plan in place to get those Lubuntu Telegram links up on the website? [03:01] @wxl, I think we're waiting for @VikingRedwolf to give us the icons he made. [03:02] ok [03:14] @VikingRedwolf any news regarding the boot screen graphics? [03:18] @VikingRedwolf the other thing that would be great is those graphics for the other Telegram channels. we can get it on the website so don't sweat that business. doesn't have to be in Git or anything :) [03:33] wxl: Wanna cherry-pick https://github.com/lxqt/lxqt-config/pull/269 ? [03:33] Pull 269 in lxqt/lxqt-config "lxqt-config-appearance: mkpath if settings of GTK doesn't exists." [Merged] [03:33] wxl: (Well, https://github.com/lxqt/lxqt-config/commit/5fe0f9288e432a669686af14657b7f508eefb77e ) [03:33] Right now, lxqt-config lets us set GTK appearances. [03:33] This makes it fully functional. [03:34] See https://github.com/lxqt/lxqt/issues/1548 [03:34] Issue 1548 in lxqt/lxqt "[lxqt-config] GTK 3 configuration doesn't apply" [Open] [03:34] If you do it, it's another upload to add to the list. :) [03:34] what do we need to cherry pick about it? if you mean apply the patch, i can do that :) [03:35] Yeah, we need that commit (with DEP-3 headers) in our packaging. [03:35] okie okie [03:36] 😘 [04:33] wxl: Ooh, we're in DistroWatch Weekly: https://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20180903 [06:31] Just a reminder that we have other groups! [06:31] https://t.me/joinchat/DH6s1ELAZusx_9mFamoScg [06:31] https://t.me/joinchat/DH6s1EKjxEYc6M3YGRGt-Q === mpmc_znc is now known as mpmc [14:22] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T32: Calamares should let the user pick what applications they WANT to use] ShalokShalom (ShalokShalom) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T32#1229 [16:42] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rVLCARCHIVE8cf31724d2d3: DSC file for 3.0.4-1] Diffusion committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rVLCARCHIVE8cf31724d2d3 [16:42] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rVLCARCHIVE7f3948486e3f: DSC file for 3.0.3-1-4] Diffusion committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rVLCARCHIVE7f3948486e3f [16:42] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rVLCARCHIVE426de7939d5a: DSC file for 3.0.4-1] Diffusion committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rVLCARCHIVE426de7939d5a [16:42] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rVLCARCHIVE7a4e696a47f4: Import patches-unapplied version 3.0.3-1-4 to debian/sid] Diffusion committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rVLCARCHIVE7a4e696a47f4 [16:42] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rVLCARCHIVE99089576f0fe: configure: fix linking on RISC-V ISA] Diffusion committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rVLCARCHIVE99089576f0fe [16:42] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rVLCARCHIVEce36a6007f1d: fribidi: update for version 1.0] Diffusion committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rVLCARCHIVEce36a6007f1d [16:42] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rVLCARCHIVEcd3812aa5ba8: x264: drop <148 build support and fix 10bit support] Diffusion committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rVLCARCHIVEcd3812aa5ba8 [16:42] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rVLCARCHIVE9cd59a6a1456: Import patches-unapplied version 3.0.4-1 to debian/sid] Diffusion committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rVLCARCHIVE9cd59a6a1456 [16:42] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rVLCARCHIVE427fcc759e61: Import patches-applied version 3.0.4-1 to applied/debian/sid] Diffusion committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rVLCARCHIVE427fcc759e61 [16:42] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rVLCARCHIVE1a62b140ef9f: qt: fix build against Qt 5.11] Diffusion committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rVLCARCHIVE1a62b140ef9f [16:43] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rVLCARCHIVE170e4538a633: x264: drop <148 build support and fix 10bit support] Diffusion committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rVLCARCHIVE170e4538a633 [16:43] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rVLCARCHIVE48d76818146b: Import patches-applied version 3.0.3-1-4 to applied/debian/sid] Diffusion committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rVLCARCHIVE48d76818146b [16:43] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rVLCARCHIVE15ef0fd48f67: configure: fix linking on RISC-V ISA] Diffusion committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rVLCARCHIVE15ef0fd48f67 [17:57] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T32: Calamares should let the user pick what applications they WANT to use] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T32#1230 [18:04] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T32: Calamares should let the user pick what applications they WANT to use] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T32#1231 [18:06] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T32: Calamares should let the user pick what applications they WANT to use] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T32#1232 [18:13] . [18:13] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T32: Calamares should let the user pick what applications they WANT to use] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T32#1233 [18:13] Ugh, so identification does work. [18:13] Which means it's a teleirc problem. [18:13] siiiigh [18:54] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rPAPIRUSICONTHEMEARCHIVEb242cfc0771b: DSC file for 20180816-1] Diffusion committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rPAPIRUSICONTHEMEARCHIVEb242cfc0771b [18:54] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rPAPIRUSICONTHEMEARCHIVE843614e4f3c2: DSC file for 20180816-1] Diffusion committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rPAPIRUSICONTHEMEARCHIVE843614e4f3c2 [18:54] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rPAPIRUSICONTHEMEARCHIVEfcd8de2bab27: Import patches-unapplied version 20180816-1 to debian/sid] Diffusion committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rPAPIRUSICONTHEMEARCHIVEfcd8de2bab27 [18:54] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rPAPIRUSICONTHEMEARCHIVEb840b2ef3251: Import patches-applied version 20180816-1 to applied/debian/sid] Diffusion committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rPAPIRUSICONTHEMEARCHIVEb840b2ef3251 === lubot-tg is now known as lubot [19:06] So, the IRC bot is fixed for now. I'm going to forward all the messages that were missed to here and then delete the messages on Telegram. [19:07] Fwd from VikingRedwolf: Okies :) [19:07] Fwd from PZ✌️ 🇬🇧: I was using the built in monitor utility with no Nvidia graphics drivers installed. This was with 3 monitors. I will retest with 2 monitors. [19:07] Fwd from PZ✌️ 🇬🇧: There were no Nvidia drivers installed at this point. [19:07] Fwd from Hans Möller: But you have Nvidia card? You are using noveau and Nvidia utility? I've been using 2 monitor setup with the lxqt utility and haven't had any problem (beside wallpaper, which I'm trying to do a workaround) [19:07] Fwd from PZ✌️ 🇬🇧: I never said I was using the Nvidia utility. This was a fresh install from a nightly and I was trying to get my screens right before I installed Nvidia drivers. I was just letting you all know what was happening with the built in utility [19:07] Fwd from Dreamingwolf: Thank you. I never thought of testing this way, I just always got the Nvidia bits set up before setting up my screens so I wouldn't have to do it twice… [19:07] Fwd from TheWendyPower: Hello everyone! I've been looking for a way to give back and help out in the Linux community. Most of my experience has been with photo editing, but I'm starting to grow my skills in the realm of graphic design. I'm willing to learn, to help the project with it needs. Thank you Simon for letting me jump in [19:07] . [19:07] There. [19:07] wxl: PZ was responding to you, fwiw. [19:07] (Well, and Hans.) [19:07] yeah well it will be interesting to see what they say about 2 monitors [19:17] wxl: Did you ever get a chance to cherry-pick that one patch? [19:17] 02:04:58 PM [freenode] -!- lubot [~lubot@ubuntu/bot/lubot] [19:17] 02:04:58 PM [freenode] -!- ircname : Lubuntu Telegram Bridge [19:17] 02:04:58 PM [freenode] -!- channels : #ubuntu-qt ##tsimonq2 +#lubuntu-admins #lubuntu-offtopic #lubuntu-devel #lubuntu [19:17] 02:04:58 PM [freenode] -!- server : card.freenode.net [Washington, DC, US] [19:17] ah shoot [19:17] not yet [19:17] bad clipboard is bad [19:17] been too busy messing with this dumb bot [19:17] https://github.com/lxqt/lxqt-config/commit/5fe0f9288e432a669686af14657b7f508eefb77e [19:18] hahahahahaha [19:18] wxl: Yeah let's just wait for upstream. [19:18] i am not kidding [19:18] oh? [19:18] We asked in IRC. [19:18] In fact... [19:18] I'll also file an issue on GitHub. [19:19] ? [19:20] https://github.com/FruitieX/teleirc/issues/259 [19:20] Issue 259 in FruitieX/teleirc "Add support for CertFP" [Open] [19:20] OH [19:20] i thought you meant re: lxqt-config [19:21] Ah, no. [19:21] By the way, welcome @TheWendyPower and thanks for your interest :) [19:25] thanks for the updates @tsimonq2 [19:25] What will be done with the "aditional driver" screen? [19:26] or tab [19:26] we're going to try to port over the gtk tab to the qt version [19:26] they're not a 1:1 match right now [19:27] @wxl thanks! [19:27] np [19:27] meanwhile, `ubuntu-drivers` can kind of help [19:28] @wxl [ meanwhile, `ubuntu-drivers` can kind of help], That is how I install nvidia drivers currently on lxqt :) [19:28] just going to boot the latest nightly - back soon [19:28] e.g. you can: [19:28] 1. ubuntu-drivers list [19:29] 2. ubuntu-drivers devices # if you're not sure which device #1 applies to [19:30] then if you want to just take all the drivers you can `ubuntu-drivers autoinstall` or if you want to pick only one or another, just `apt` your way to the package [19:30] tbh i have never bothered to use non-free graphics drivers ever XD [19:33] I had on nvidia, some microcode and broadcam (which I have to blacklist later) [19:35] Has anyone tried to use the 32-bit iso? Yesterday I tried in virtual box and got a "meditation guru error" after "try lubuntu w/o installing". [19:37] and I can run a winXP machine w/o problems. [19:39] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rSEED103300ce7bf6: Add mokutil to ship-live.] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rSEED103300ce7bf6 [19:42] wxl: If you can, try to knock out that lxqt-config thing... I'm going to play with getting "netboot" to work and seeing if we have to fork it or not. [19:43] @tsimonq2 [By the way, welcome @TheWendyPower and thanks for your interest :)], Thanks! [19:43] @Hans haven't tried but i'll put that on the todo list [19:43] @tsimonq2: on today's list [19:43] wxl: Ooh, thoughts on https://github.com/lxqt/libfm-qt/pull/267 ? [19:43] Pull 267 in lxqt/libfm-qt "Fixed file info job with parentless paths" [Open] [19:43] wxl: Thanls. [19:43] *Thanks [19:44] @tsimonq2: first i'm going to file a separate bug for SASL not working for TeleIRC [19:44] When I get over to my dad's place I'll get that netboot thing then probably talk more with @TheWendyPower about where we need help with artwork/UX. ;) [19:45] That is, unless @VikingRedwolf is around. [19:45] Otherwise, bbiab. [19:45] huh? [19:45] @tsimonq2: that libfm-qt seems pretty easy. on the other hand, the lxqt-config one seemed easy and i did get into some fuzz [19:45] @VikingRedwolf [huh?], Hey, we have artwork help while you're getting stuff figured out :) [19:46] @tsimonq2 has auto login been fixed? or shall I manual login [19:46] @PZ✌️ 🇬🇧 [@tsimonq2 has auto login been fixed? or shall I manual login], Yes, it should be fixed. [19:46] Riiiiiiiight wxl? :P [19:46] yep [19:46] Cool. [19:46] unless you have an empty password [19:46] He worked on that more than I did, PZ✌️ 🇬🇧 [19:46] THAT is an sddm bug [19:46] @tsimonq2 [Hey, we have artwork help while you're getting stuff figured out :)], Yayyy! Who? I'm gonna kiss him [19:46] @VikingRedwolf [Yayyy! Who? I'm gonna kiss him], Not a him ;) @TheWendyPower [19:46] Ok we will know in like 5 mins 😊 [19:46] hehe [19:46] Doesn't matter [19:47] ahahahaha [19:47] I'm sure she's got a brother 😁 [19:47] shhhhhhh [19:47] calm down, Raf :P [19:47] @VikingRedwolf [Doesn't matter], It should her old man is H U G E. 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 [19:47] @PZ✌️ 🇬🇧 [It should her old man is H U G E. 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂], ^ [19:47] @PZ✌️ 🇬🇧 [It should her old man is H U G E. 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂], 😐 [19:48] @tsimonq2 [calm down, Raf :P], Can't. I'm a wolf. [19:48] hey @VikingRedwolf did you make any progress with (A) the boot screen images or (B) telegram logos for the website? [19:48] Haven't done anything yet with telegram (tomorrow) and double checked the splashes, and they're fine [19:49] We can always use another image and put the logo on top (you know what I mean) [19:49] Don't worry, I can fix the splashes XD [19:49] uugh [19:49] * tsimonq2 runs [19:50] at least he confirms that graphically it looks right [19:50] slangasek suggested cjwatson might be the best person to chat with about technical problems [19:53] @wxl [ slangasek suggested cjwatson might be the best person to chat with about t …], That's probably spot on. [19:54] Ok. Still the log out problem with preferences / LXQT settings / monitor settings. Move them around click apply and you get kicked back to login screen [19:55] Sounds like a crash to me O_O [19:57] Will there be any logs? [20:00] Click save before moving anything and get logged out too [20:00] @PZ you're still having problems with nouveau/2 monitors? or you're testing nvidia/3 monitors? [20:01] 2 monitors both same model n res [20:01] Nouveau [20:01] ok well that's not something @Hans can reproduce so that is curious [20:02] can you `lspci -nnk | grep -A 3 VGA`? [20:02] er [20:03] You can move them ok with xrandr - [20:03] Let me install telegram lol [20:03] telegram? [20:04] This is my mobile [20:04] i meant `lspci -nnk | grep -A 3 -e VGA -e 3D` btw [20:04] you can just install pastebinit [20:04] and then [20:04] `lspci -nnk | grep -A 3 -e VGA -e 3D | pastebinit` [20:05] you'll have to copy the link manually but that's fairly simple [20:05] it will default to http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/somehash [20:05] just provide the last bit [20:06] http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/HWmFNvf4jB/ [20:06] to be sure that's with the -e 3D at the end, right? [20:07] yeah the 2nd one you posted [20:08] I'd appreciate if you Telegram users stopped with the non-printable characters (here at least) in the user names. [20:08] ok let me do some searching [20:09] ugh why can't they use pci ids? [20:11] well that's a NV130/Pascal card, i believe [20:11] and i don't see the 1070 Ti fwiw https://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/CodeNames/#NV130 [20:11] that doesn't mean it's not supported [20:12] Also, I like the new user name coloring! :) [20:12] could you pastebin up the output of `dmesg` and `cat /var/log/syslog`? [20:13] @krytarik [ Also, I like the new user name coloring! :)], Hey thanks :D [20:13] i think it's a little busy, frankly. along with all the quoting. [20:13] Bah, it didn't show the second line :( [20:13] @wxl [ i think it's a little busy, frankly. along with all the quoting.], Yeah, it works though. [20:14] Very much no kidding, now us poor IRC users can at least more easily distinguish the Telegram ones! :P [20:14] dmesg http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/NjBcTVZdsV/ [20:15] it's taking it as GP104 [20:15] syslog http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/j5JVjFpxff/ [20:16] Maybe one just shouldn't quote as much then. [20:17] there are some sort of timeout issues with nouveau [20:17] those are warnings though [20:17] @Hans do you see those? [20:18] oh actually look at the end [20:21] wxl: @HMollerCl is now Hans; he has a nickname in Telegram :D [20:22] oh thank god [20:22] XD [20:22] now if only we can get PZ on board [20:22] you want rid of thumbs up and union jack ? [20:22] no [20:22] No, just set a username :) [20:23] i want you to have a username [20:23] admittedly using standard ascii characters might make things a bit easier [20:23] like this ? [20:23] yes! [20:23] THERE ya go :D [20:23] and now i can actually send you a notification [20:23] @ZebedeeBoss like this [20:23] No one ever told me before I ne3eded one lol [20:24] i said something wy up there ^^^ [20:24] (Photo, 524x153) https://i.imgur.com/UoxrSub.jpg This is what it now looks like from the IRC side. [20:24] (I have #kubuntu-devel and #lubuntu-devel in one channel, don't mind the notices) [20:24] oh weird it only colors usernames???? [20:24] Yup. [20:25] @wxl [ @Hans do you see those?], I haven't used nouveau with lxqt [20:25] @HMollerCl would you be willing to give it a test? [20:26] I never use nouveau - I just thought you should know - as some people will [20:26] yeah like i said, i've never not used it [20:27] @wxl [ @HMollerCl would you be willing to give it a test?], Won't be fast, I don't have a computer with nvidia anymore. Would have to lend one. [20:27] @HMollerCl ah nevermind then [20:27] But I used to have problems with nouveau, mouse pointer dissapear. [20:28] That's why I used the "aditional driver" tab. ;) [20:28] it was interesting when I moved the monitor to the left - the wallpaper dissappeared and now right click the desk top has two diff options - lol maybe I should move on :P [20:29] as in black screen has one right click [20:29] wallpaper screen has another set [20:29] probably should move on [20:29] from what i can see nvidia drivers will fix it [20:29] that said could i get you to file some bugs? [20:29] yeah they do - works fine with tripple screens too [20:30] looks like the left monitor has dropped back to openbox menu [20:31] give me a shout if/when you want it tested again [20:31] you can look in the syslog and see the bits re: kscreen.xrandr [20:32] each ends with the likes of Sep 3 20:55:41 i7-lubuntu kernel: [ 287.286610] kscreen_backend[2507]: segfault at 10 ip 00007fe54d6715eb sp 00007ffe93f9c0e0 error 4 in KSC_XRandR.so[7fe54d65b000+1b000] [20:32] back at dmesg you see the likes of [ 56.362941] kscreen_backend[2145]: segfault at 10 ip 00007fa0fc4e85eb sp 00007ffd2ddedb60 error 4 in KSC_XRandR.so[7fa0fc4d2000+1b000] [20:32] however the real issue is nouveau: [ 56.837879] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: gr: FECS falcon already acquired by gr! [20:32] that's why kscreen blows up [20:34] @ZebedeeBoss if you could please file a bug against nouveau, that would be great: `ubuntu-bug xserver-xorg-video-nouveau` [20:35] it would only be in plain english as I have no idea what you just posted ? [20:36] @ZebedeeBoss just type out `ubuntu-bug xserver-xorg-video-nouveau` in a terminal and it should lead you through the whole process. explain nouveau fixes it. [20:36] ok cool [20:37] um [20:37] don't explain nouveau fixes it [20:37] explain nvidia does XD [20:37] wait a minute [20:37] you said xrandr works fine? [20:38] with nouveau? [20:38] @wxl [ explain nvidia does XD], and we know thats a lie - lol [20:38] @wxl [ you said xrandr works fine?], yeah [20:38] hmmmm [20:39] nhold on a sec [20:39] I remember that in lxde I used to use xrandr to [20:40] oops I am the UIbuntu page now in a browser [20:40] oh you can just cancel it [20:41] This was the script I used: [20:41] No option to cancel ? [20:41] i'm going to suggest that if it works with xrandr/nouveau then i'd point the finger at lxqt-config (it installs lxqt-config-input) [20:41] just close the browser tab :) [20:42] done [20:43] s/input/monitor/ :/ [20:43] wxl: So it's agaida's fault again? XD [20:43] to be fair i think lxqt-config is palinek's baby but i'm thinking it must be upstream [20:43] hahahahaha [20:43] they use libkf5scren as a backend so it might go farther than that [20:47] @ZebedeeBoss in case it wasn't clear i was suggesting to make a new bug with `ubuntu-bug lxqt-config` and explain that doing things manually with xrandr makes things just work (as does using nvidia drivers) [20:47] @wxl [ @ZebedeeBoss in case it wasn't clear i was suggesting to make a new bug wi …], oh ok [20:50] ooh someone try a sticker! [20:50] (Sticker, 512x512) https://telegram.lubuntu.me/G8I7RgDh/file_4066.png [20:50] Naughty Zeb :P [20:50] YAY NO MORE WEBP [20:51] But wait XD [20:51] SSL issue though, @tsimonq2 [20:51] Yup [20:51] Sec, I'll fix that. [20:54] wxl: All good. [20:54] With SSL, too. [20:55] wow it's almost like things don't suck [20:56] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lxqt-config/+bug/1790536 «< done - title was a bit lng - hahahaha [20:56] wxl: OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH https://telegram.lubuntu.me/offtopic has the invite link. [20:56] nginx is soooo cool. [20:56] Hey, thanks @ZebedeeBoss! [20:57] bug 1790536 [20:57] Bug 1790536 in lxqt-config (Ubuntu) "using monitor settings to move a monitor causes you to be logged out when clicking apply. Doing this manually with xrandr and or installing nvidia-drivers and you don't have the problem" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1790536 [20:58] @tsimonq2: want to bother moving that upstream or just wait for agaida to fly off the handle when it shows up in his email? [20:58] CAn I install the rest of my stuff now as I feel steam will be the next issue :P [20:58] fire away @ZebedeeBoss [20:59] wxl: Wait for agaida. :P [21:00] wxl: Oooh, so now we have https://telegram.lubuntu.me/{development,support,offtopic,español} acting as redirects. [21:00] In prod it's just in the nginx file. [21:00] cool [21:00] we going to do that url shortener thing? [21:00] ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ [21:00] (i.e. register the domain or use the .us one you have) [21:01] We need an actual short URL to do shortening XD [21:01] oh crap [21:01] @ZebedeeBoss I missed something. [21:02]