[07:26] <LocutusOfBorg> please remove ldc and its reverse-deps from ppc64el, upstream doesn't want to support that architecture, and Debian asked to remove them too https://github.com/ldc-developers/ldc/issues/2824
[07:26] <gitbot> ldc-developers issue 2824 in ldc "Fails to build from source on ppc64el" [Open]
[07:43] <acheronuk> anyone looking at the r-cran-rgenoud test regression with glibc? not sure what the issue is there. it's been too many years now since I did r type things, and I never used r even then
[07:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted grub2-signed [source] (bionic-proposed) [1.93.5]
[07:44]  * acheronuk shudders at the memory of finite element in fortran!
[08:26] <ginggs> acheronuk: I did have a quick look, they seem to do the same calculation with and without a seed. https://salsa.debian.org/r-pkg-team/r-cran-rgenoud/blob/master/tests/testthat/test-genoud_fixed_seed.R#L92 https://salsa.debian.org/r-pkg-team/r-cran-rgenoud/blob/master/tests/testthat/test-genoud_no_given_seed.R#L84
[08:27] <ginggs> with the new glibc, the results without a given seed are now closer to the old results with a seed
[08:30] <ginggs> acheronuk: so adjusting the tolerance there might be safe, but it concerns me that the result only changed on amd64 and armhf
[08:30] <ginggs> infinity: do you have any thoughts ^ ?  Is this expected?
[08:30] <acheronuk> indeed
[08:54] <LocutusOfBorg> btw with the new ldc we finally gained full arm64 support, while reverse-deps never really worked / compiled on ppc64el
[10:01] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: llvm-toolchain-snapshot [ppc64el] (cosmic-proposed/universe) [1:8~svn340819-1] (no packageset)
[10:17] <mwhudson> acheronuk, ginggs: i've spent far to long poking at r-cran-rgenoud and have nfi what's going on
[10:18] <mwhudson> it doesn't even call that many libc functions in its core loop
[10:42] <ginggs> mwhudson, acheronuk: did either of you find a repo or bug tracker for r-cran-rgenoud?
[10:42] <mwhudson> ginggs: no
[10:42] <acheronuk> ginggs: seems like a one man thing to me
[10:43] <mwhudson> it also has no rdeps so i hope some AA deletes it before i waste too much more time on it
[10:48] <LocutusOfBorg> folks, please ignore symfony tests on armhf and s390x, they always failed, I did ignore test results because of deprecation warnings, and they started passing because of this reason... when I discovered that it was too late
[10:53] <acheronuk> looks like the unseeded run is wrongly finding the max from the seeded one? fun
[10:57] <acheronuk> ginggs: authors github? https://github.com/JasjeetSekhon/rgenoud
[10:57] <acheronuk> 2 commits and out of date!
[11:05] <ginggs> acheronuk: thanks, i couldn't find anything.  i'll drop them an email
[11:11] <ginggs> the unseeded version just seems to pick a random number between 1 and 2^31 to use as a seed https://salsa.debian.org/r-pkg-team/r-cran-rgenoud/blob/master/R/rgenoud.R#L20 but all the failed tests fail with the same result
[12:17] <acheronuk> fun that running unseeded in R locally with old glib mostly gives the same answer, but occasionally it does a swerve and finds one of the other maxima!
[12:20] <acheronuk> so not sure I believe this is a hugely reliable test to start with
[12:22] <acheronuk> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/f3vtTNcw5t/ vs https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/mNqrRK2YXs/
[12:23] <acheronuk> ^^ 2 following runs
[12:31] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rax-nova-agent (xenial-proposed/universe) [2.1.15-0ubuntu1~16.04.0 => 2.1.15-0ubuntu1~16.04.1] (no packageset)
[12:43] <LocutusOfBorg> cjwatson, hello, can you please ack/nack libapache-session-perl sync/merge? (I mean, is this add-recommended-packages change still needed now that Debian has autopkgtests? they even dropped debian/test/control in the last upload... )
[12:44] <LocutusOfBorg> you did some of that perl changes, I'm merging them but I don't really know how to check if the bug is fixed or not... (and we have no ongoing perl transition fortunately)
[12:44] <cjwatson> I'd rather it be merged, but the worst case if you sync it is that somebody will have to reinvent the same thing for the next perl transition
[12:44] <cjwatson> so I don't care very deeply
[12:57] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: llvm-toolchain-snapshot [i386] (cosmic-proposed/universe) [1:8~svn340819-1] (no packageset)
[13:07] <LocutusOfBorg> so cjwatson reintroduce that file and that's all?
[13:08] <cjwatson> Sorry, I don't remember and am in the middle of two other things right now
[13:08] <cjwatson> If it's a difficult merge due to the underlying file not existing any more, then just sync instead and we can sort it out later
[13:08] <cjwatson> (if necessary)
[13:09] <LocutusOfBorg> -Depends: @, pkg-perl-autopkgtest, libdbi-perl
[13:09] <LocutusOfBorg> +Depends: @, pkg-perl-autopkgtest, libcgi-pm-perl, libdbi-perl
[13:09] <LocutusOfBorg> this is the patch, in debian/test/control, but that file is now removed
[13:10] <cjwatson> Just drop it and sync then
[13:10] <LocutusOfBorg> it is recommended in the libapache-session-perl package, so maybe we can teach autopkgtest for perl to install recommends by default?
[13:10] <cjwatson> It was a subtle problem and it's possible it's been fixed; if it hasn't then we'll likely need to fix it somewhere else anyway
[13:10] <LocutusOfBorg> maybe debian did that...
[13:11] <LocutusOfBorg>   [ gregor herrmann ]
[13:11] <LocutusOfBorg>   * Remove debian/tests/control; add libdbi-perl to Recommends.
[13:11] <LocutusOfBorg> the reason for adding libdbi-perl to recommends is similar, so maybe this is really already fixed
[13:11] <LocutusOfBorg> in case we break on next perl transition, we will have a lot of "ubuntu1" previous packages in release, and we can quickly notice of the dropped delta, lets sync
[13:12] <cjwatson> ack
[13:34] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: snapd (xenial-proposed/main) [2.34.2 => 2.35.1] (desktop-core, ubuntu-server)
[13:37] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: snapd (bionic-proposed/main) [2.34.2+18.04 => 2.35.1+18.04] (desktop-core, ubuntu-server)
[13:37] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: snapd (trusty-proposed/universe) [2.34.2~14.04 => 2.35.1~14.04] (no packageset)
[19:20] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: llvm-toolchain-snapshot [amd64] (cosmic-proposed/universe) [1:8~svn340819-1] (no packageset)
[20:58] <LocutusOfBorg> slangasek, do you like the new diaspora-installer autopkgtest?
[20:58] <LocutusOfBorg> I can't in pbuilder environment install the package, not sure why
[20:58] <LocutusOfBorg> http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/packages/d/diaspora-installer/cosmic/amd64
[20:58] <LocutusOfBorg> but it seems good, I'm tempted to remove the block
[22:20] <mwhudson> hmm
[22:21] <tsimonq2> hmm
[22:22] <acheronuk> hmm
[22:22] <mwhudson> looking at twisted/foolscap/txtorcon
[22:22] <mwhudson> current situation is that there's a txtorcon in proposed that does not build a python 2 package
[22:22] <mwhudson> but a previous upload built a totally broken one
[22:23] <mwhudson> i _guess_ the thing to do is remove the broken one and upload a txtorcon-for-python-2 source package that is the old txtorcon source
[22:23] <mwhudson> but all this requires an AA to sort out
[22:26] <mwhudson> well unless txtorcon-for-python-2 gets a ridiculous dishonest version i guess but well