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oSoMoNgood morning desktoppers06:06
didrocksgood morning06:21
oSoMoNsalut didrocks, ça va?06:34
didrockssalut oSoMoN, oui et toi ?06:40
oSoMoNça va, la journée s’annonce belle et productive (j’espère)06:43
didrockspas de cacastrophes encore ? :)06:43
oSoMoNpas encore :)06:50
oSoMoNmais rien n’est joué06:50
dufluMorning oSoMoN and didrocks, and anyone I missed07:35
oSoMoNgood afternoon duflu07:37
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didrockshey duflu07:40
seb128good morning desktopers07:47
dufluMorning seb128 & willcooke07:47
seb128hey duflu07:48
oSoMoNsalut seb12807:49
oSoMoNgood morning willcooke07:49
seb128lut oSoMoN! en forme ?07:49
oSoMoNoui, et toi?07:49
willcookemorning07:51
seb128hey willcooke, how is u.k today?07:52
willcookeseb128, hey!  Grey, so back to normal :)07:52
seb128hehe07:53
willcookekids back to school, and the little ones to pre-school this morning, so some peace at last.  Shame I'm feeling under the weather though07:53
* Laney nods08:00
seb128good morning Laney, how are you?08:02
seb128how was the first day back? did you manage to clear the postholidays backlog? ;)08:02
seb128andyrock, https://code.launchpad.net/~azzar1/ubuntu/+source/gnome-initial-setup/+git/gnome-initial-setup/+merge/354195 ... I'm not sure to understand your comment (I guess street->string? but I don't understand the "There should be no problem chaning it now." ... do you mean you want to go to change the string in the SRU? why is that not a problem anymore?)08:03
Laneyhey seb12808:05
seb128jbicha, hey, I don't know how you handle the VCS but it's confusing to me. Like I'm looking to gnome-desktop you updated the upstream/pristine-tar branches on launchpad, does it mean you are working on the update?08:06
seb128you didn't touch the ubuntu/master branch though08:06
LaneyI'm good, last night I went to a clean air campaigning thing in town08:06
Laneysmoe people talked about hin08:06
Laneywhat08:06
Laneysome weird symbol has appeared in my terminal08:06
seb128the chinese spie got you during debconf but their spyware software is buggy? ;)08:07
Laneyhttps://people.canonical.com/~laney/weird-things/wtf.png08:07
Laneyit went away after I pasted that URL08:07
Laneyaaaaaaaaanyway08:08
jbichaseb128: no, I'm not working on gnome-desktop now, I just thought it was helpful to forward those branches along08:08
Laneythey have this project where the put little nitrogen dioxide testing kits all around the city08:08
Laneyso you get an up to date map of levels at different places08:08
Laneyto know where the biggest problem areas are08:09
seb128jbicha, huuuum08:09
jbichaI guess I could not push those branches to LP if it's confusing08:09
Laneythat's cool i thought08:09
Laneyand I did the backlog I remembered / had email about :P08:09
seb128ah, nice08:09
Laneyyou?08:09
seb128I'm good!08:09
seb128we got pretty much on top of updating our packages and landing feature that were going to land08:09
seb128now I need to start looking that the trello board and rls-bb fix commited bug08:10
Laneygood08:10
seb128quite some things stalled there I think08:10
jbichaseb128: evince has disabled postscript viewing by default, but I don't think that makes sense for us for cosmic08:10
jbichahttps://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/evince/issues/96708:10
gitbotGNOME issue 967 in evince "Disable PostScript pipe command" [1. Security, 5. Ps, Opened]08:10
seb128that's also the next plan of my "toolking work", after getting versions refreshed a bi08:10
seb128bit08:10
Laneyyeah don't think we ever got that metric I was interested in seeing08:10
jbichaDebian has patched ghostscript, I pinged #ubuntu-hardened last week about those patches but I didn't get a response yet08:11
Laneyto see if things are moving in / out of there08:11
seb128right, that's on my todo :)08:11
seb128jbicha, yeah,let's not disable it08:11
seb128we have some apparmor profiles in evince that might help?08:11
seb128also ghostscript 9.24 fixes the issue according to that command08:11
seb128and versions says that version is out08:11
seb128so we can as well do that update08:12
seb128it's in Debian already08:12
Laneythat's usually a Till one08:12
seb128I'm sure Till is going to merge it08:12
jbichaok08:12
seb128right08:12
seb128and about pushing pristine-tar and upstream/latest to launchpad when you  update Debian, I don't know what other think08:13
seb128I find it more confusing that useful08:13
Laneyit means that you get the same commits there as they have08:13
seb128it puts the vcs in a intermediate state of the update08:13
seb128right, but I wanted to merge gnome-desktop08:13
seb128first thing I did was to pull those from Debian08:13
seb128to see that jbicha did it already08:14
seb128which made me believe he was working on the update08:14
seb128but he's not08:14
seb128so the outcome is that confused it more than it helped me08:14
seb128but maybe it's just me and I need to get used to the fact that he (and other) pull bits of the updates without intend to work on the remaining part (merging debian/master in ubuntu/master)08:15
LaneyI've done it the opposite way round before, pushing that branch to Debian without doing the update there08:15
LaneyI guess it could be weird08:16
seb128it has pro and con08:16
seb128you make sure than nobody redo those bits and have them diverging08:16
seb128but it doesn't communicate a clear intend on whether you plan to do the update or not08:16
Laneyany suggestion?08:17
seb128let me think about it08:17
seb128not offhand, out of "being consistent would be better", e.g if we pick one we should ask everyone in the team to stick to do it this way08:18
Laneynod08:19
Laneyfor me I would almost always push all of the branches I'm working on at the same time08:19
Laneyso if there is no master branch update then I've not worked on the update at that point08:19
Laneyalso for Ubuntu updates at least I tried to claim them on bugs08:20
Laneynot sure if those are helpful pieces08:20
jbichait might have been better if I had at least opened a LP bug requesting the update and stating that I wasn't working on it08:20
seb128yeah, claiming on bugs is good08:22
seb128jbicha, right08:22
seb128shrug08:23
seb128I don't understand why those happen (not the first time)08:23
seb128gnome-calculator$ git status08:23
seb128On branch upstream/latest08:23
seb128Your branch and 'origin/upstream/latest' have diverged,08:23
seb128and have 279 and 1 different commit each, respectively.08:23
seb128 08:23
seb128that's on my debian gnome-calculator salsa checkout08:23
seb128I'm the one who did the previous update08:23
seb128and I pushed to salsa08:24
seb128how can it conflict today?08:24
seb128or is that the one I screwed?08:25
seb128it think it is, I had that conflict, I didn't know how to solve it/why so I nuked my copy but I don't know how to re-create upstream/latest now08:26
seb128since I can't import-orign, the pristine-tar & debian/experimental branches are updated08:26
seb128so it's a weird state :/08:27
seb128I wonder if I should just get things back to some previous history point and import-dsc the update08:27
Laneygit reset --hard origin/upstream/latest will get you back to the origin state08:30
Laneynot sure if that's the question tho08:30
seb128part of it08:30
seb128if I do that I'm going to be on 3.29.9008:30
seb128but I updated to .9108:30
seb128I just forgot to push upstream/latest when I did that update08:31
seb128and when I tried to push a week later I got a conflict which I didn't understand08:31
seb128and I ended up loosing the .91 update to upstream/latest08:31
seb128and I don't know how to "replay" it now08:31
seb128like re-do the same thing gbp import-orig did to it08:32
Laneyoh right08:32
LaneyI guess you don't have the tag?08:32
seb128hum08:32
Laneyyes looks like it is there actually08:32
seb128I probably pushed the tag and forgot to push the branch08:33
seb128and it diverged for some reason (it didn't seem to have any commit on the salsa side which is weird)08:33
Laneyit looks to me like the 3.29.91 update was done on a branch that didn't have the 3.29.90 one in it already08:36
seb128maybe I forgot to pull that one before updating?08:37
Laneycould be08:37
seb128do you any recommendation of how to fix the branch now?08:37
seb128My git foo is too limited for that :/08:38
LaneyI think it can be fixed by git reset --hard origin/upstream/latest; git merge -X theirs upstream/3.29.9108:38
seb128let me try08:38
Laney-X theirs means resolve commits by taking the new side08:38
Laneythen check "git diff upstream/3.29.91" and make sure it is empty08:38
Laneythen you can push that08:38
seb128$ git diff upstream/3.29.9108:38
seb128$08:38
seb128good08:38
dufluWhich usually works but sometimes results in extra commits you don't want. You can then "drop" those using "git rebase -i"08:38
seb128thanks !08:38
seb128yeah, now I've a commit that is a merge08:40
seb128but at least the content of the branch is right08:40
dufluseb128, try git log --graph    :)08:41
Laneydon't think it matters that there are extra merge commits there08:42
seb128yeah, just an ocd problem :p08:42
seb128k, other git question of the day08:45
seb128I just did an import-orig while being on debian/experimental but I want debian/unstable in fact for those uploads08:45
seb128how do I tell it to revert all the branches to their origin state08:45
seb128so I can checkout master and redo the import?08:46
Laneyif it was me I would just reset or delete debian/experimental and "git merge upstream/3.30.0" in debian/master08:47
LaneyI don't know of a quick way to reset multiple branches08:48
Laneyprobably Trevinho has some weird alias for that :p08:48
seb128oh, well, going with old test method08:49
seb128rm -rf; gbp clone :08:49
seb128:p08:49
Laneywell you can do a shell loop08:49
Laneyfor branch in foo bar; do git checkout $branch; git reset --hard origin/$branch; done08:49
seb128I guess that work08:50
seb128though git reset always scare me08:50
Laneyit's hard to actually lose commits forever08:50
seb128it doesn't really undo things, or at least keep copies/record08:50
Laney(git reflog)08:50
seb128right08:50
Laney(they are kept around until garbage collected)08:50
seb128but it makes me feel like my checkout is corrupted with local errors and not in a fresh state08:50
seb128I guess I need to get used to that08:51
seb128and stop try to do a "full reset"08:51
Laneyactually probably merging the debian/experimental branch is better than the tag that I just said, otherwise you would lose any changes made to the packaging in the branch of course (not that there are any for gnome-calculator, but there might be in general)08:54
seb128right, I'm doing that now08:54
seb128what if I want to discard the debian/gbp.conf update after doing merge08:55
seb128is that also a reset --hard on the file?08:55
seb128or is there a better way to tell it "don't merge that bit"?08:55
seb128I didn't commit/push yet08:55
Laneyno, I would "git revert" the commit that edited that08:55
seb128how do I find that commit? ;)08:56
seb128checkout debian/experimental & log?08:56
Laneyeasiest is probably git blame debian/watch08:56
Laneyand look at the last edit to the line with the version08:56
Laneythanks mutt for opening a pdf in GIMP08:58
seb128$ git revert ac2ecddd08:58
seb128error: Your local changes would be overwritten by revert.08:58
seb128hint: Commit your changes or stash them to proceed.08:58
seb128 08:59
seb128so you would commit with the wrong content and stack the revert on top?08:59
LaneyI probably would08:59
seb128k08:59
seb128thanks for all the answer08:59
seb128that's enough git questions for today (hopefully)09:00
Laneyno worries, I'm happy to teach09:00
* didrocks updates g-s-d/g-c-c09:25
didrockstaking up gnome-calculator11:00
seb128didrocks, sorry, it's done11:00
didrocksah ;)11:00
seb128versions didn't refresh yet I guess11:01
didrocksyep11:01
didrocksadwaita-icon-theme?11:01
seb128go! :)11:01
didrocksdoing :)11:01
didrocksah, this one needs bootstrapping11:02
seb128there is also nm-applet which might be a bit less trivial than the .92 ->0 updates as well11:02
seb128bootstrapping?11:02
didrockshttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/git/NewPackageImport11:02
didrocksusing this ^11:02
seb128ah, you mean for the vcs11:02
didrocksyep11:02
seb128you can also do it without vcs if you want :)11:02
* didrocks is almost tempted11:03
didrocksok, sold! ;)11:03
* didrocks runs uscan and uupdate, so long! ;)11:03
didrockswaow configure.ac :p11:04
seb128good old autotools :)11:05
* didrocks is unsure about the "good" adjective though :p11:05
seb128hehe11:06
seb128Trevinho, hey, are you handling the .30 update for shell? other components as well?11:06
seb128jbicha, do you plan to ask for a ffe/update seahorse?11:09
Nafallodidrocks: autotooling :-)11:10
didrocksNafallo: without autoreconf though, the experience is incomplete :p11:10
Nafalloisn't that autoretooling? ;-)11:11
didrockshaha11:13
didrocksdoing evince11:13
didrocks(no vcs as well)11:13
didrocksoh11:15
didrocks-  [enable_browser_plugin=yes])11:15
didrocks+  [enable_browser_plugin=no])11:15
didrockslet's see if there is any diff in the build11:15
seb128didrocks, don't11:15
didrocksseems we disable it in d/rules11:15
didrocksso, should be all good11:16
seb128didrocks, refresh your version page11:16
seb128didrocks, it's done in Debian, just need to be synced11:16
didrocksah, when I saw it wasn't up to date in Debian, I just looked at -proposed11:16
didrocksok ;)11:16
seb128didrocks, suggestions of things todo11:16
seb128- network-manager-applet11:16
seb128- gvfs (new serie, needs ffe)11:17
didrocksI was up for short things before leaving11:17
seb128- gnome-screenshot (needs to fix a build issue I introduced when updating, one patch refresh went wrong, it's on my todo)11:17
seb128ah11:17
seb128cheese?11:17
seb128hopefully it's easy11:17
didrocksyeah, sounds good, but maybe needs a ffe?11:17
seb128depends if the changes include a feature11:17
didrockslet me look11:18
seb128https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/cheese/commit/ab4bbb9ec65ae84607b95f0ca5bca61f7a8ac71f11:18
seb128seems not from the NEWS11:18
didrocksyep, the camera toggle button is more UI than a proper feature11:18
seb128right, I was going to say11:18
didrocksok, then! cheesing around11:19
seb128:)11:19
didrocksinstalling valac though :(11:21
seb128:/11:23
Nafallowhen can we have sebQUANTUM? :-)11:23
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seb128Laney, do you have room to look at the dconf autopkgtest issue at some point in the next week? we ended up deleting the new package for bionic because nobody managed to debug that and it looks like it's on the same path for cosmic :/11:36
seb128I tried to have a look but that was before I knew that armhf == lxc, and I tried on porter boxes back then11:36
Laneyguess so11:36
Laneydid you try on lxd on your own machine?11:36
seb128I still have it on my todo but it looks like I keep delaying that so maybe it's better if I bounce it to someone who has more free cycles11:37
seb128I did at the end of the bionic cycle and got an issue11:37
seb128so probably the same11:37
seb128but I never manage to sit down to debug it since :/11:37
seb128managed11:38
seb128ETOOBUSY11:38
seb128well, if you find some free cycle I would appreciate if you could poke at it11:38
seb128it's not a priority though so don't worry too much about it if you are busy11:38
Laneycan put it on the list11:43
Laneydidn't notice it got synced tbh11:43
seb128it's me, I wanted to see if it was still failing and get it on the list of things to resolve ... we can delete again from proposed if needed11:43
seb128it's just some backlog item that needs to be cleared at some point11:44
seb128on that note, going back from that lunch place, be back at my desk in a bit11:44
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Nafallomeeting o'clock! :-D13:29
seb128:29 is not meeting o'clock no13:30
seb128now it is though!13:30
Nafallo13:30:30 < seb128> :29 is not meeting o'clock no13:30
Nafallo;-)13:30
seb128#startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2018-09-0413:31
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seb128I'm going to chair this one, will is not feeling well today13:31
oSoMoNNafallo leaves in UTC+000113:31
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seb128Roll call: andyrock, dgadomski, didrocks, duflu (out), jamesh (out), jibel/heber, kenvandine, laney, oSoMoN, seb128, tkamppeter, trevinho, robert_ancell (out)13:32
dgadomski\o13:32
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seb128k, let's get started13:32
seb128#topic andyrock13:32
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seb128andyrock, hey13:32
andyrockhey13:32
andyrock- 3.29 -> 3.3013:32
andyrock  # proposed gnome-online-accounts 3.30 in Cosmic13:32
andyrock- Online-accounts:13:32
andyrock  # Working on adding a webpage to the login process13:32
andyrock- SRU:13:32
andyrock  # Tested SRU for LP: #1770686 both in cosmic and xenial13:32
andyrock  # Proposed MR to SRU fix for LP: #1764723 (https://code.launchpad.net/~azzar1/ubuntu/+source/gnome-initial-setup/+git/gnome-initial-setup/+merge/354195)13:32
ubot5Launchpad bug 1770686 in software-properties (Ubuntu Bionic) "Hide livepatch widgets in flavors without an online account panel in gnome-control-center" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/177068613:32
ubot5Launchpad bug 1764723 in gnome-initial-setup (Ubuntu Bionic) "gnome-initial-setup says that Livepatch is "all set" even if enabling is still in progress." [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176472313:32
andyrockon holidays last week so not too much :D13:33
seb128thanks andyrock, I hope you enjoyed the holidays and relaxed13:34
seb128#topic dgadomski13:34
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seb128dgadomski, hey13:34
dgadomskihey13:34
dgadomski* working on bug #176239113:34
dgadomski* working on g-c-c part of bug #175549013:34
ubot5bug 1762391 in gnome-terminal (Ubuntu) "pam_group.so is not evaluated by gnome-terminal" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176239113:34
ubot5bug 1755490 in unity-settings-daemon (Ubuntu) "Incorrect information about display shown in unity-control-center" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175549013:34
dgadomskieof13:34
seb128thanks dgadomski13:34
seb128#topic didrocks13:35
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seb128(Didier is out for a bit so he sent his summary)13:35
seb1284 days week13:35
seb128* Yaru:13:35
seb128  - rebootstrap suru-icon-theme which was incorrectly updated and documented a workflow for it: https://community.ubuntu.com/t/please-take-care-when-merging-back-suru-icon-theme-to-our-repository/784113:35
seb128  - looked at recent diff between upstream theme and Yaru13:35
seb128  - looked at snapcraft issue (snap is not building anymore) and sent upstream13:35
seb128  - filed and merged missing sound icon in Suru (and so, Yaru): https://github.com/snwh/suru-icon-theme/issues/8813:35
gitbotsnwh issue 88 in suru-icon-theme "Missing audio-volume-overamplified-symbolic (introduced by GNOME Shell 3.30)" [Closed]13:35
seb128* ubuntu-report:13:35
seb128  - add disks and oem dcd collects (bug #1786432 & bug #1784383)13:35
ubot5bug 1786432 in ubuntu-report (Ubuntu Bionic) "Collect DCD file " [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178643213:35
seb128  - released to cosmic, SRU to bionic.13:35
ubot5bug 1784383 in ubuntu-report (Ubuntu Bionic) "Collect number of disks and disk size" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178438313:35
seb128  - move master to go 1.11 and use modules feature now.13:35
seb128* Misc:13:35
seb128  - upgraded my main machine to cosmic13:35
seb128  - next installer documentation writings + discussions.13:35
seb128  - ubuntu-settings reviewed and sponsored for keeping default theme as Ambiance on unity + other review for per-session migration (https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/3385)13:36
seb128  - Reviewing XUbuntuCancel work from Trevhino + testing/sponsoring (branches linked to https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/3398)13:36
seb128  - Discussed and point o_gra at booth-demo-manager for some snap related showcase13:36
seb128#topic duflu13:36
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seb128* Gnome Shell performance:13:37
seb128  - FINALLY FINISHED geometric (GPU-less) picking support:13:37
seb128    . https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/merge_requests/18913:37
seb128  - Page flipping-related branches are now in a mild deadlock (unless I want to make future conflicts worse), all touching the same areas of code. So now loosely blocked awaiting landing of13:37
seb128    . https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/merge_requests/171 in order to unblock:13:37
seb128    . https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/merge_requests/140 and:13:37
gitbotGNOME issue (Merge request) 189 in mutter "Geometric (GPU-less) picking" [1. Feature, 5. Clutter, 5. Performance, Opened]13:37
seb128    . https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/merge_requests/7313:37
gitbotGNOME issue (Merge request) 171 in mutter "Sync to the hardware refresh rate, not just 60.00Hz [performance]" [1. Feature, 5. Backend: Native, Opened]13:37
gitbotGNOME issue (Merge request) 140 in mutter "WIP: renderer-native: Simplify swap notification" [1. Feature, 5. Backend: Native, Opened]13:37
seb128  - Continued reworking high priority fixes to satisfy upstream:13:37
gitbotGNOME issue (Merge request) 73 in mutter "WIP: renderer-native: CRTCs now hold front buffer refs." [1. Bug, 5. Backend: Native, 5. Performance, Opened]13:37
seb128    . https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/merge_requests/11713:37
gitbotGNOME issue (Merge request) 117 in mutter "clutter: Fix offscreen-effect painting of clones" [1. Bug, 5. Clutter, 5. Performance, Opened]13:37
seb128    . https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/merge_requests/17113:37
gitbotGNOME issue (Merge request) 171 in mutter "Sync to the hardware refresh rate, not just 60.00Hz [performance]" [1. Feature, 5. Backend: Native, Opened]13:37
seb128  - Some new fixes proposed:13:37
seb128    . https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/merge_requests/21613:37
gitbotGNOME issue (Merge request) 216 in mutter "cogl-winsys-glx: Fix frame notification race/leak" [Opened]13:37
seb128    . https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/merge_requests/21413:37
gitbotGNOME issue (Merge request) 214 in mutter "clutter: Clarify clutter_stage_get_actor_at_pos docs" [Opened]13:37
seb128  - Returned to working on "super-smooth" (reduces missed frames and increases frame rates)...13:37
seb128    . https://gitlab.gnome.org/vanvugt/mutter/tree/super-smooth-v213:37
seb128* Bug management:13:37
seb128  - Some stunning progress on firefox and thunderbird this week (Paul White and others?)13:37
seb128  - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vRDHPxGBHqM6XkT_S8ggtYfD0xchKSUD_z9PopNVE3G1rU05fVSnxDGcDsEstl7gu7N-tzCU6mLUp2V/pubchart?oid=254968654&format=interactive13:37
seb128#topic13:38
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seb128(following the serie of verbose summary, be ready)13:38
seb128snapd-glib get_interface_info() patch:13:38
seb128* I updated my PR adding the interfaces API based on Robert's13:38
seb128comments: https://github.com/snapcore/snapd-glib/pull/4013:38
seb128* I'm still not sure whether it is worth merging in this state, since13:38
seb128the snapd side of the API does not provide the information I thought13:38
seb128it would (i.e. while it supports snapd-side filtering, it doesn't13:38
gitbotsnapcore issue (Pull request) 40 in snapd-glib "WIP: Add support for the "interface info" mode of the /v2/interfaces API" [Open]13:38
seb128provide interface connection information).13:38
seb128pulseaudio snap policy module:13:38
seb128* I prepared backports for Bionic and Xenial.13:38
seb128* While the patches compiled correctly on Xenial, the resulting13:38
seb128package failed under testing due to a too-old snapd-glib.  I13:39
seb128considered updating the patch, but on further thought, I think13:39
seb128updating snapd-glib is the better option.  As a pulseaudio is a long13:39
seb128running service, the auto-reconnect feature added to newer snapd-glib13:39
seb128is critical.  Without it, microphone access for snaps might suddenly13:39
seb128be cut half way through a user session when snapd is restarted after13:39
seb128an update.13:39
seb128* I'll discuss with Ken whether it is worth pursuing the Xenial13:39
seb128backport if we need to also update snapd-glib.13:39
seb128snapcraft:13:39
seb128* I've been working on a proof of concept patch for snapcraft to13:39
seb128separate out debug information here:13:39
seb128https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/223913:39
gitbotsnapcore issue (Pull request) 2239 in snapcraft "WIP: pluginhandler: after building a part, separate debug info from executables and strip them" [Open]13:39
seb128* At present it can separate debug information after a part has built13:39
seb128(in a layout that gdb is happy to parse).  I'm working to extend it to13:39
seb128then collect debug symbols for any files primed from each of those13:39
seb128parts into a tarball.13:39
seb128* Evan has suggested penciling in a session in Brussels to discuss how13:39
seb128to proceed with this feature.13:39
seb128 13:40
seb128k, should be enough for IRC to digest13:40
seb128#topic jibel13:40
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seb128jibel, hey13:40
jibelHi seb128 and all13:40
jibel- SRU verification: packagekit, ubuntu-report in bionic13:40
jibel- Manual review of the cosmic images13:40
jibel- Added iso size indicator to the dashboard13:40
jibel- Working on the analysis of the size of the iso13:40
jibeldone13:40
seb128jibel, speaking of the iso, I asked some days ago but I forgot the answer ... what needs to be fixed for the daily cosmic iso to be promoted regularly to current again?13:41
heberseb128, we need to fix utah tests, I am on that13:42
jibelseb128, the problem with the multipart initrd that was not supported has been fixed but now the images fails the reboot test13:42
seb128heber, jibel, can we get a card for that item in the trello board?13:42
jibelseb128, and for ubiquity tests there is this permission denied error.13:42
jibelheber, can you add it please?13:42
seb128well "that item" being "get auto-promoting fixed"13:43
heberseb128, jibel sure13:43
seb128heber, jibel, thx13:43
seb128#topic heber13:43
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seb128heber, hey again :)13:43
heberHey!13:43
heber* Run nvidia test plan on bionic13:43
heber* Debug utah to identify the issue in new isos13:43
heberEOF13:43
heber:D13:43
seb128thanks heber13:43
seb128I should have waiting for your update before asking :p13:43
seb128#topic kenvandine13:43
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seb128kenvandine, hey13:43
kenvandinehey13:43
kenvandine* Short week due to vacation13:44
kenvandine* Hyper-V desktop image:13:44
kenvandine  - Tested Quick Create feature using the json file provided by Microsoft, looks13:44
kenvandine great and works well.13:44
kenvandine* Sponsored another pulseaudio fix for classic confinement (LP: #1787324)13:44
ubot5Launchpad bug 1787324 in pulseaudio (Ubuntu) "Snap policy module denies recording access to classic snaps" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178732413:44
kenvandine  - Currently stuck in cosmic-proposed, need to investigate why it hasn't migrat13:44
kenvandineed.13:44
kenvandine* snapcraft-desktop-helpers:13:44
kenvandine  - Reviewed PRs13:44
kenvandine  - Released fix for startup time issues13:44
kenvandine13:44
seb128kenvandine, pulseaudio is blocked on glibc (like many other things)13:44
kenvandineah13:44
seb128thx kenvandine13:45
kenvandineseb128, thx, saved me some time :)13:45
seb128np!13:45
seb128#topic Laney13:45
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Laney• back from hols13:45
Laney• replied to a few emails and stuff like that13:45
Laney• checked on updates, noticed that glib was broken and fixed that problem13:45
Laney• started working on some others (gtk, gnome-characters)13:45
seb128Laney, hey, wb, hope you had good holidays :)13:45
Laney• fixed libsoup build failure too13:45
Laney• fixed the appstream generator which didn't come back up properly after a reboot13:45
Laney• hopefully my key works again13:45
Laney🌴13:45
seb128quite a busy 1.5 days!13:45
seb128thx Laney13:45
Laneynp13:45
seb128#topic oSoMoN13:45
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seb128oSoMoN, hey13:46
oSoMoNhey team13:46
oSoMoN• chromium13:46
oSoMoN  ∘ continued focus on transitioning to a snap-only chromium13:46
oSoMoN    - reduced size of final snap by 11MB by removing unused files (down to 140MB)13:46
oSoMoN    - fixed missing translations for GTK file dialogs; snaps built against the GNOME 3.26 backports PPA don't have this problem because translations are not stripped from libgtk-3-common to be put in langpacks, but when building against the regular archive some additional work is needed to pull in the translations from the langpacks (https://git.launchpad.net/~chromium-team/chromium-browser/+git/snap-from-source/commi13:46
oSoMoNt/?id=16b060f)13:46
oSoMoN    - stable branch now confirmed to work both on amd64 and i386, now building beta and dev branches13:46
oSoMoN    - next up: issue a call for testing asking people to remove the deb and use exclusively the snap13:46
oSoMoN  ∘ updated beta to 69.0.3497.7213:46
oSoMoN  ∘ updated dev to 70.0.3534.413:46
oSoMoN• libreoffice13:46
oSoMoN  ∘ bug triaging13:46
oSoMoN  ∘ uploaded 1:6.0.6-0ubuntu0.18.04.1 to bionic-proposed (SRU bug #1785679), currently sitting in the unapproved queue13:46
ubot5bug 1785679 in libreoffice (Ubuntu Bionic) "[SRU] libreoffice 6.0.6 for bionic" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178567913:46
oSoMoN  ∘ FFe for 6.1.0 in cosmic got approved (bug #1789240), uploaded to cosmic-proposed, and iterated to resolve autopkgtest failures13:46
ubot5bug 1789240 in libreoffice (Ubuntu) "[FFe] libreoffice 6.1.0" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178924013:46
oSoMoN    - filed and fixed bug #179008313:46
ubot5bug 1790083 in lloconv (Ubuntu) "autopkgtests fail with LO 6.1 because LibreOfficeKit writes to stderr" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/179008313:46
oSoMoN    - filed and fixed bug #1790165, forwarded to Debian and in the ensuing conversation I found that libreoffice-sdbc-firebird might now work on big endian architectures (including s390x), need to confirm and if so that package could be built unconditionally13:46
ubot5bug 1790165 in libreoffice (Ubuntu) "libreoffice 6.1 autopkgtests fail on s390x, missing test dependency: libreoffice-sdbc-firebird" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/179016513:46
oSoMoN    - migration now blocked only on the glibc migration13:46
oSoMoN  ∘ started investigating again bug #1699772, which doesn't appear to affect Debian13:46
ubot5bug 1699772 in linux (Ubuntu Bionic) "linux-image-4.13.0-12-generic, linux-image-4.10.0-24-generic, linux-image-4.8.0-56-generic, linux-image-4.4.0-81-generic, linux-image-3.13.0-121-generic | Regression: many user-space apps crashing" [Critical,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/169977213:46
oSoMoN• snaps: reviewed and merged a bunch of snapcraft-desktop-helpers branches:13:46
oSoMoN  ∘ https://github.com/ubuntu/snapcraft-desktop-helpers/pull/13613:46
oSoMoN  ∘ https://github.com/ubuntu/snapcraft-desktop-helpers/pull/13813:46
oSoMoN  ∘ https://github.com/ubuntu/snapcraft-desktop-helpers/pull/14513:46
gitbotubuntu issue (Pull request) 136 in snapcraft-desktop-helpers "Don't LD_PRELOAD bindtextdomain for classic snaps" [Closed]13:46
oSoMoN  ∘ https://github.com/ubuntu/snapcraft-desktop-helpers/pull/14913:46
gitbotubuntu issue (Pull request) 138 in snapcraft-desktop-helpers "desktop-exports: ensure we have $HOME/.config dir" [Open]13:46
gitbotubuntu issue (Pull request) 145 in snapcraft-desktop-helpers "Set FONTCONFIG_PATH correctly to fix loading in-snap fonts" [Closed]13:46
gitbotubuntu issue (Pull request) 149 in snapcraft-desktop-helpers "Quote all DESTDIR expansions for paths contain spaces" [Closed]13:46
oSoMoN🚵13:46
seb128thanks oSoMoN13:47
LaneyoSoMoN: that bindtextdomain preload crash thing we had a few months ago, was it ever fixed?13:47
* Laney was curious to know what that was13:47
Laney(reminded by that PR, not necessarily related to your status :P)13:48
oSoMoNif it was PR #136, then in theory yes13:48
oSoMoNcan't remember now if it was the same issue13:48
Laneyyeah "No description provided." doesn't illuminate 🤔13:49
Laneyah well13:49
oSoMoNIIRC we also had a few memory leaks in the shim that were fixed a while back, might have caused those crashes13:49
oSoMoNkenvandine, do you remember?13:50
seb128oSoMoN, #138 wasn't merge btw, unsure if that's by overlook?13:50
oSoMoNno, I commented on it and waited for Trevinho's response13:51
seb128ah, it has a comment that might need adressing13:51
seb128k13:51
seb128I didn't see him around today13:51
seb128he might be back on south america tz or something :p13:51
seb128k, let's move on with the meeting13:51
seb128thanks oSoMoN!13:51
seb128#topic seb12813:51
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kenvandineoSoMoN, i think the crashes were fixed13:51
seb128:)13:52
seb128• desktop updates (file-roller, libgnome-game-support, gnome-initial-setup, gnome-logs, libdazzle, gnome-calculator, file-roller)13:52
seb128• merged brltty fix and SRUed for a regression following a polkit CVE fix13:52
seb128• debian merges (gconf, geoclue, gnome-video-effects, iputils, gnome-desktop3)13:52
seb128• debian syncs (fonts-noto-cjk, lixkbdcommon, libxinerama, gedit, e-d-s)13:52
seb128• fixed gconf ftbfs13:52
seb128• versions-script, reduced the list of unknown components on our report (down to 3)13:52
seb128our versions page start looking good :)13:52
seb128</week>13:52
seb128#topic tkamppeter13:53
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tkamppetercups-filters: Released 1.21.2. Fixed a crash in cups-browsed, also caused by the recent contribution of Coverity Scan fixes.13:53
tkamppeter- GTK 3.0 print dialog: Fixed the problem of the print dialog prefixing option settings with "Custom." and breaking print jobs this way. Added patch to the bug report (bug 1763520).13:53
tkamppeter- Google Summer of Code 2018: Continuing mentoring the students for completing their work.13:53
tkamppeter- Bugs.13:53
ubot5bug 1763520 in gtk+3.0 (Ubuntu) "after upgrade to bionic, printing fails without explanation / logs / debuggability" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176352013:53
seb128tkamppeter, hey13:53
seb128tkamppeter, do you plan to update ghostscript to 9.24 in cosmic?13:53
seb128that was asked earlier in context of https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/evince/issues/96713:54
gitbotGNOME issue 967 in evince "Disable PostScript pipe command" [1. Security, 5. Ps, Opened]13:54
kenvandinetkamppeter, i'll sponsor that gtk patch13:54
tkamppeterseb128, I have already sent a mail to jdstrand and marc Delauriers asking whether I should do so, but no answer yet.13:54
Laneydoesn't it want to be sent upstream? at least for some first review?13:55
seb128kenvandine, thx!13:55
tkamppeterMy suggestion is doing so, seeing the recommendation of the GS developers.13:55
seb128kenvandine, tkamppeter, that gtk patch should be upstreamed and properly tagged13:55
seb128ah, Laney already said that :p13:55
kenvandineyeah13:55
seb128tkamppeter, great, thx13:55
kenvandinetkamppeter, can you please submit the patch upstream?13:55
tkamppeterkenvandine, thanks for sponsoring. Would you also submit it upstream?13:55
Laneyhaha13:55
* Laney doesn't think that's how it works :P13:56
seb128you guys can sort that out between yourself outside the meeting :)13:56
kenvandine:)13:56
seb128thx tkamppeter13:56
seb128#topic trevinho13:56
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seb128Trevinho, hey13:56
Trevinhoseb128: hi13:56
seb128ah, I was starting being concerned for you and I was writing on telegram13:57
seb128good to see you are here :)13:57
TrevinhoYes.... Lost the notification again skip me a sec please13:57
seb128k13:57
seb128#topic robert_ancell13:57
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seb128- Uploaded PackageKit/gnome-sofware fixes for autoremoval13:58
seb128- Updated accountsservice patches for 0.6.50 release13:58
seb128- Updated GNOME Software to 3.29.92 in cosmic13:58
seb128- GNOME Software 3.20.5-0ubuntu0.16.04.12 SRU to xenial (contains verified developer feature)13:58
seb128- Complete patch to get GNOME Software to work with wide searches (needed fixed to channel support).13:58
seb128- Trying to work out why GNOME Software sometimes takes minutes to startup (PackageKit is taking the time)13:58
seb128- Trying to work out why snapd requests fail while GNOME Software is starting (seems to be threading related, disabling PackageKit makes them work fine. Haven't been able to simulate just using snapd-glib API directly).13:58
seb128- Released LightDM 1.28.013:58
seb128#topic rls-bb/cc-bugs13:58
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seb128http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-incoming-bug-tasks.html13:58
seb128bug #1788250 is on there but not desktop specific, rather a java issue13:59
ubot5bug 1788250 in openjdk-lts (Ubuntu) "AWT applications fail with java.awt.AWTError: Assistive Technology not found: org.GNOME.Accessibility.AtkWrapper" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178825013:59
seb128I'm going to follow up a bit on it after the meeting, see what's going on and if it's being handled13:59
seb128I will triage as appropriate once that's done14:00
seb128http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-tracking-bug-tasks.html14:00
seb128that list starts being tricky to review and to stale, L_aney was right to raise up that issue14:01
seb128I've on my list to deal with that problem14:01
seb128meanwhile...14:01
seb128I"m taking bug #1789925 since I did the cosmic upload14:01
ubot5bug 1789925 in gnome-initial-setup (Ubuntu Bionic) "Link to Ubuntu Report legal notice points at the wrong page" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178992514:01
seb128bug #1789924 and bug #1789913 are for Timo14:02
ubot5bug 1789924 in linux (Ubuntu Bionic) "Missing Intel GPU pci-id's" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178992414:02
ubot5bug 1789913 in xorg-server (Ubuntu Bionic) "X crashes when connecting to an external monitor via HDMI (I+A)" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178991314:02
seb128assigning the gnome-software ones to Robert14:02
seb128bug #1782320 is for me, I uploaded that SRU14:04
ubot5bug 1782320 in brltty (Ubuntu Bionic) "Braille display inoperable in GUI since polkit-update" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178232014:04
seb128bug #178497414:04
ubot5bug 1784974 in mozjs52 (Ubuntu Bionic) "Update mozjs52 to 52.1.9" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178497414:04
seb128looks like that was done since?14:05
seb128https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mozjs52/52.9.1-0ubuntu0.18.04.114:05
ubot5Ubuntu bug 52 in Baz (deprecated) "No cvs export like functionality" [Medium,Fix released]14:05
* seb128 closes14:05
seb128bug #1780039 is for Timo14:06
ubot5bug 1780039 in libglvnd (Ubuntu Bionic) "Khronos CTS failure on Bionic due to missing change in libegl1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178003914:06
seb128bug #1770271 and bug #1777994 as well14:06
ubot5bug 1770271 in linux (Ubuntu) "VegaM support" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/177027114:06
ubot5bug 1777994 in libxcb (Ubuntu Bionic) "the header xcb/xinput.h is missing" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/177799414:06
Laneypoor timo14:06
seb128I'm going to talk to him about all those before assigning though14:06
seb128see if he needs help of if they should be taken out of the list14:06
seb128yeah :/14:06
seb128bug #172735614:07
ubot5bug 1727356 in GNOME Shell "Login screen never appears on early generation Intel GPUs (Core2 and Atom etc)" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172735614:07
seb128Trevinho, ^ can you take in that one? It was fixed in cosmic so I guess we need to look if that is/can be backported to bionic14:07
Trevinhomh, ok..14:07
TrevinhoWe had the gdm fix landed now I think. It was in one of the backports iir14:07
Trevinhoc14:07
seb128I don't know the details14:08
Trevinhoyes, indeed... I backported it few days ago to 3-28, i was waiting Florian for an upstream release though14:08
Trevinho(already pinged)14:08
seb128it just need someone to review the situation and comment on the bug (&backport/SRU if needed)14:08
Trevinhohe said he would have done it yesterday... but seems he forgot14:08
Trevinhook14:08
seb128k, can you comment on the bug to say that14:08
seb128it's fine to wait a bit for a release or to bundle other fixes14:09
seb128thx14:09
Laneybetter because my network indicator fix will be in if it happens now ;-)14:09
seb128:)14:09
* Laney forgot to mention that one in status actually14:09
Laneymovement on the bubblewrap MIR :D14:09
TrevinhoLaney: yep, I made sure it was there too :)14:09
seb128I'm trying to get bug #1672297 resolved out-of-the-meeting as well14:09
ubot5bug 1672297 in gjs (Ubuntu Bionic) "gnome-shell uses lots of memory, and grows over time" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/167229714:09
Laney😘 Trevinho14:10
seb128Laney, :) side effect of you not looking at it for some time :)14:10
Laneyheh14:10
seb128still not clear if security team like it, they seem to be unhappy about the setuid thing14:10
seb128but they are going to fix gnome-desktop either way14:11
seb128they might want to add an alternative solution based to apparmor and propose that upstream14:11
seb128let's see14:11
Laneywalters is there on the bug so they should be able to work any problems out14:11
seb128right14:11
seb128fingers crossed14:11
seb128ok, that should be all for bionic14:11
seb128http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-cc-incoming-bug-tasks.html14:11
seb128bug #176791814:11
ubot5bug 1767918 in plymouth (Ubuntu) "Login password from GDM is shown in plain text on the VT1 console" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176791814:11
seb128shrug14:12
seb128that again?14:12
seb128console-setup still?14:12
Laneyno14:12
seb128ah, plymouth according to the comment14:12
Laneythat is a plymouth bug, the gdm bit should be closed14:12
seb128so I guess foundations14:12
seb128yeah14:12
Laneylucky~~~14:13
seb128bug #178634414:13
ubot5bug 1786344 in gnome-settings-daemon (Ubuntu) "Default IBus input method ignored in live session" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178634414:13
seb128does anyone feel like investigating that one14:13
seb128it looks like it regressed on the week where we updated g-s-d/gnome-shell to 3.2914:13
seb128so likely a regression in those updates14:13
seb128andyrock, ^ maybe you? ;) unsure how busy you are atm?14:14
seb128but you poked a bit at input problems recently14:15
seb128I'm taking bug #179014614:15
ubot5bug 1790146 in gnome-initial-setup (Ubuntu) "Update Welcome page for Ubuntu 18.10" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/179014614:15
Trevinhohttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-settings-daemon/+bug/1786344/comments/1114:15
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1786344 in gnome-settings-daemon (Ubuntu) "Default IBus input method ignored in live session" [High,Confirmed]14:15
seb128Trevinho, the g-c-c bug got split as bug #178966514:16
ubot5bug 1789665 in gnome-control-center (Ubuntu) "Intelligent Pinyin not recognized as a Chinese input source" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178966514:16
seb128the session issue can't be a g-c-c problem14:16
Trevinhok14:16
seb128g-c-c is an app, it's not a session service14:16
seb128it's not autostarted with the sesison14:16
seb128so a g-c-c change is not likely going to regress the live session at boot14:17
seb128but you probably know that :)14:17
Trevinhoyep :)14:17
seb128andyrock, no reply, bad luck, I assign it to you ... you know where to find me if you want to discuss that though ;)14:17
seb128http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-cc-tracking-bug-tasks.html14:18
seb128k, seems we are good there14:18
seb128#topic Trevinho14:18
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seb128Trevinho, got your update read?14:18
seb128+y14:18
Trevinho· Landed XUbuntuCancel methods for Cosmic (getting SRU ready too):14:18
Trevinho  - https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/3398 (see VCSs there)14:18
Trevinho· Backported part of the fixes upstream:14:18
Trevinho  - https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/nautilus/merge_requests/30314:18
Trevinho  - https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-calculator/merge_requests/1014:18
Trevinho· Landed glib2.0 SRU for bionic (new upstream + subprocess crash fix)14:18
Trevinho  - https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/338914:18
Trevinho  - https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/339314:18
Trevinho· GNOME Session migration to yaru fixes and landed:14:18
gitbotGNOME issue (Merge request) 303 in nautilus "Shell search provider better disposition" [Opened]14:18
Trevinho  - https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/339814:18
Trevinho· Fixed ubiquity crash because of usage of ubuntu.css14:18
gitbotGNOME issue (Merge request) 10 in gnome-calculator "Async and cancellable search provider" [Opened]14:18
Trevinho  - https://code.launchpad.net/~3v1n0/ubiquity/+git/ubiquity/+merge/35413514:18
seb128eof?14:19
Trevinhowasn't the emoji enough ? :D14:19
Laneyno emoji here14:20
seb128I didn't see one14:20
oSoMoNthe emoji went missing14:20
seb128it stopped after "354135"14:20
Trevinhohow not... https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/r0scyfwp/image.png14:20
seb128the ubiquity line14:20
seb128oh14:20
seb128a part of the paste didn't go through then14:20
Laney👎14:20
seb128I didn't get the lines before either14:20
Trevinhowait so14:20
Trevinhowhat was the last line you got?14:21
Laney04/09 15:18:49 <Trevinho>   - https://code.launchpad.net/~3v1n0/ubiquity/+git/ubiquity/+merge/35413514:21
seb128the ubiquity one14:21
Trevinhoso... spamming again14:21
Trevinho· Some yaru clenaups:14:21
Trevinho  - https://github.com/ubuntu/yaru/pull/76114:21
Trevinho· LOTS of cherry picks on Mutter and g-s 3.28 branches (testing and some fixes)14:21
Trevinho  - https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/commits/gnome-3-2814:21
Trevinho  - https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell/commits/gnome-3-2814:21
Trevinho· Merged various shell MPs (with some reworks):14:21
Trevinho  - https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell/merge_requests/414:21
gitbotubuntu issue (Pull request) 761 in yaru "Gnome shell upstream less diff" [Closed]14:21
Trevinho  - https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell/merge_requests/18814:21
Trevinho  - https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell/merge_requests/20514:21
gitbotGNOME issue (Merge request) 4 in gnome-shell "WIP: Tweener Javascript invalid access fixes" [1. Feature, 6. Javascript, Opened]14:21
Trevinho· Some discussion on new search provider (seems stuk though)14:21
Trevinho  - https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell/issues/43614:21
Trevinho· Getting ready gnome-terminal 3.30 (and shell when ready)14:21
gitbotGNOME issue (Merge request) 188 in gnome-shell "Extension stylesheet cleanups" [1. Feature, 2. Merge After Freeze, 5. Extensions, Merged]14:21
gitbotGNOME issue (Merge request) 205 in gnome-shell "js/viewSelector: Cancel search on overview hiding" [1. Bug, 2. Merge After Freeze, Merged]14:21
gitbotGNOME issue 436 in gnome-shell "Shell Search Provider v3" [Opened]14:21
Trevinhothe bot got the mall now, so you guys i guess14:21
Laneystill no emoji though14:21
Trevinho🍂 🍂🍂🍂🍂🍂🍂14:22
Laneybetter14:22
Trevinhomh :-D14:22
oSoMoNemoji overflow14:22
seb128and still not the line before the emoji14:22
seb128like the "Sorry Riccardo"14:22
seb128or was that a private msg?14:22
Trevinhohttps://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/i4SEpTLr/14:22
Laneywhat does terminal (and shell) mean?14:22
Trevinho16:21:34 <Trevinho> · Getting ready gnome-terminal 3.30 (and shell when ready)14:22
Trevinho16:21:34 <Trevinho>  -- Sorry Riccardo come to my place to say bye, and exactly when I was writing this14:22
Trevinhoneed to get that avoids be marked as flooding... -_-14:23
Trevinhoor paste line by line...14:23
seb128Trevinho, g-t 3.30, please claim the updates you work on by clicked on "Open Bug..." on http://people.canonical.com/~platform/desktop/desktop-packages.html14:23
Trevinhoseb128: I thought I opened the bug.... mhmh, maybe was for something else14:23
seb128you did for gnome-shell it seems14:24
seb128and it's .92, probably need to be updated :p14:24
seb128thanks Trevinho!14:24
seb128#topic aob14:24
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Trevinhoas per the shell there are new upstream releases, maybe waiting debian guys then merge this time or propose to salsa first if they take more14:24
seb128jbicha, thx for the seahorse ffe14:24
seb128jbicha, did you want to post an update in the meeting btw?14:24
seb128since it seems you had some time for Debian&Ubuntu update recently14:25
jbichaI didn't prepare a specific update for today14:25
seb128Trevinho, yeah, Jeremy said that Simon is busy this week14:25
jbichaseb128: did you see bug 177957414:25
ubot5bug 1779574 in Ubuntu Translations "Missing static translations in .desktop files" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/177957414:25
seb128so maybe best if you contribute the update to debian?14:25
seb128jbicha, right, we should switch those to use langpack now14:26
Laneydoes mutter depend on the new gjs and therefore new mozjs or not?14:26
jbichaany objections to switching universe Debian GNOME stuff to use langpacks?14:26
seb128jbicha, no, please do it so we can archive that item :)14:27
Trevinhoseb128: so, that means I should do the salsa part too? Let's see, or maybe I wait as I want to focus a bit more on some non-packaging related parts too14:27
Laneys/mutter/gnome-shell/14:27
TrevinhoLaney: nope so far14:27
Laneyseems not14:27
jbichaok, we just need to coordinate with GunnarHJ or someone to do some setup on the LP side (according to that bug)14:27
TrevinhoLaney: there are fixes to work with new one, but not really something is needed14:27
seb128Trevinho, if you are busy on other things see if Laney or didrocks or oSoMoN want to maybe do that update?14:27
Laneythat is ok then14:27
seb128or jbicha14:27
Laneyjust leave it and someone will pick it up14:27
seb128jbicha, I can handle the template parts, just let me know what you enable so I can go and accept the templates14:28
seb128Laney, eventually yes :)14:28
seb128or hopefully14:28
LaneyI don't think it's going to be hopefully for gnome-shell14:28
seb128but yeah, we can start with that and if nobody does we can rediscuss14:28
seb128k, good :)14:28
seb128Trevinho, feel free to ignore it while you are busy then14:28
seb128no depends on a new gjs/mozjs is good news14:29
seb128those might take a bit longer to get updated14:29
seb128k14:29
Trevinhoyeah, Sam was about to set that deps early then I luckly stopped him quick enough :D14:29
seb128good work :)14:29
seb128another other topic?14:29
seb128we are just at the hour mark, time to wrap14:30
seb128but we can still have a quick one if someone has something they really want to discuss :)14:30
seb128314:30
seb128214:30
seb128114:30
seb128seems not then14:30
seb128#endmeeting14:30
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meetingologyMeeting ended Tue Sep  4 14:30:40 2018 UTC.14:30
meetingologyMinutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2018/ubuntu-desktop.2018-09-04-13.31.moin.txt14:30
seb128thanks everyone14:30
Nafallocheers :-)14:30
seb128sorry it was long today14:30
oSoMoNthanks!14:30
Laneywasn't long in a bad way imho14:31
seb128right14:31
oSoMoNit wasn't boring anyway14:32
LaneyI had some very good dreams during that meeting, let's do it again14:32
Trevinhoahaha14:33
oSoMoN:)14:34
kenvandine:)14:35
oSoMoNTrevinho, re https://github.com/ubuntu/snapcraft-desktop-helpers/pull/138, please remove the test if you don't mind, and I'll merge14:39
gitbotubuntu issue (Pull request) 138 in snapcraft-desktop-helpers "desktop-exports: ensure we have $HOME/.config dir" [Open]14:39
Trevinhok14:41
TrevinhooSoMoN: updated, also added `-m 700`, probably should be added to the previous appling to XDG_CONFIG_HOME though14:45
oSoMoNTrevinho, thanks, and merged14:47
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seb128jibel, didrocks, can you review/sponsor https://code.launchpad.net/~3v1n0/ubiquity/+git/ubiquity/+merge/354135 ?15:12
jbichaseb128: do the LP translation templates need to be set up before or after we upload these packages?15:22
seb128after15:22
seb128the upload triggers a template built15:23
seb128which goes to a moderation queue15:23
seb128I just need to accept it after build from there15:23
seb128so upload and let me know what you upload and I can check the queue15:23
seb128(bbiab)15:23
* oSoMoN wraps up early today15:32
oSoMoNhave a good evening everyone15:32
Laneyseb128: dconf went in16:12
Laneydo you want to handle killing d-conf and promoting that?16:12
Laneyor whatever is needed (looks like it's already in main actually)16:13
didrocksseb128: I don't have commit access, but I can have a look16:15
didrocks(approved)16:17
didrocksTrevinho: I'm happy to do mutter/gnome-shell. Not sure I will have the patience to go to salsa first though16:20
didrockshum, maybe we should ensure current gnome-shell migrates first16:26
didrocksTrevinho: gnome-shell-pomodoro autopkgtests fails16:26
didrocksTrevinho: was due to .92 that I sponsored for you16:27
didrocksincompatible javascript?16:27
didrocksTrevinho: http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/cosmic/update_excuses.html#gnome-shell16:27
Trevinhodidrocks: debian has updates for them I guess16:27
didrocks(the autopkgtests for g-s-pomodoro were stable before)16:27
didrocksah, let me look :)16:27
TrevinhoI forgot to sync them :-/16:27
TrevinhoI had to put them in the ppa16:27
Trevinhodidrocks: there are some new breaks, get them from experimental16:28
didrocksTrevinho: no new version in debian: https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/gnome-shell-pomodoro16:28
Trevinhodidrocks: as for g-s there's no much rush, I can do it next week I guess. otherwise i wait you guys :)16:28
didrocksah, a 0.13.4-3, but not in experimental16:28
didrocks  * Add patch for the absence of global.screen in gnome-shell >= 3.2916:29
didrocks    (Closes: #905107)16:29
didrocksI guess that's what we want16:29
didrocksbut it's not published in unstable yet apparently, from the tracker16:29
didrockslet's wait then tomorrow, and I'll sync it16:29
didrocksto unblock current one16:29
Trevinhoyep, also extensions like dashtopanel16:29
didrocksbefore updating16:29
Trevinhoor whatever is called16:29
didrocksno autopkgtests :p16:29
didrocksso not blocking16:29
didrocksbut yeah, we should sync16:29
didrocksthis didn't break dash to dock?16:29
Trevinhoyep, #syncemall16:29
didrocks(the monitor thingy?)16:30
Trevinhodidrocks: it did, but I fixed it way earlier upstream16:30
didrocksah, in a forward compatible way!16:30
didrocks;)16:30
TrevinhoI fixed it in the day it got broken during guadec16:30
didrocksI guess dash to dock, like not our fork, is broken too?16:30
didrocksor did we already get that version in ubuntu?16:30
didrocks64-1 from  2018-08-3016:31
didrocksok, recent enough16:31
didrocksTrevinho: I'll sync dash to panel and pomodoro16:31
didrocksah, someone needs to update dash to panel in debian, it's not there yet16:33
didrocksstill 15, before the fix in august upstream16:33
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seb128Laney, ah, nice, yes I can handle the promotion/deleting17:27
* didrocks has a running mutter and gnome-shell17:28
didrocksdid the salsa updates, but will need someone to sponsor/push them to debian17:28
didrocksbranches for mutter are at https://code.launchpad.net/~didrocks/ubuntu/+source/mutter/+git/mutter17:28
didrocksbranches for gnome-shell are https://code.launchpad.net/~didrocks/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+git/gnome-shell (apart from the ubuntu/master branch to not sponsor)17:29
didrockstags are normally pushed, but I only testbuild the debian branches, didn't run them as discussed the other day17:30
didrocksI'll push ubuntu/master to ~ubuntu-desktop once the salsa things are merged but whoever wants to do it17:30
seb128Laney, ^ tomorrow maybe you can have a look to Didier's updates?20:08
seb128jbicha, ^ or you maybe for the updates from Didier for Debian?20:41
jbichamaybe, universe is keeping me busy now though20:44
seb128jbicha, I was pointing it out because you mentioned those updates to ah on #debian-gnome a bit earlier and I was unsure if you were referring to Didier's updates20:53
seb128would be a shame if someone else was redoing the work20:53
seb128he would probably discourage Didier to try to do updates through Debian again20:53
jbichaDidier didn't try to do it through Debian, he didn't use #debian-gnome or https://salsa.debian.org/gnome-team/mutter/merge_requests20:54
seb128he wrote20:58
seb128<didrocks> did the salsa updates, but will need someone to sponsor/push them to debian20:58
seb128unsure where the misunderstanding is20:58
jbichahe pushed to https://code.launchpad.net/~didrocks/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+git/gnome-shell21:00
jbichaanyway, I'm not saying no, I just have a bunch of stuff I'm working on, so maybe :)21:00

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