=== JanC_ is now known as JanC === RAOF is now known as Guest49550 [06:06] good morning desktoppers [06:21] good morning [06:34] salut didrocks, ça va? [06:40] salut oSoMoN, oui et toi ? [06:43] ça va, la journée s’annonce belle et productive (j’espère) [06:43] pas de cacastrophes encore ? :) [06:50] pas encore :) [06:50] mais rien n’est joué [07:35] Morning oSoMoN and didrocks, and anyone I missed [07:37] good afternoon duflu === Guest49550 is now known as RAOF [07:40] hey duflu [07:47] good morning desktopers [07:47] Morning seb128 & willcooke [07:48] hey duflu [07:49] salut seb128 [07:49] good morning willcooke [07:49] lut oSoMoN! en forme ? [07:49] oui, et toi? [07:51] morning [07:52] hey willcooke, how is u.k today? [07:52] seb128, hey! Grey, so back to normal :) [07:53] hehe [07:53] kids back to school, and the little ones to pre-school this morning, so some peace at last. Shame I'm feeling under the weather though [08:00] * Laney nods [08:02] good morning Laney, how are you? [08:02] how was the first day back? did you manage to clear the postholidays backlog? ;) [08:03] andyrock, https://code.launchpad.net/~azzar1/ubuntu/+source/gnome-initial-setup/+git/gnome-initial-setup/+merge/354195 ... I'm not sure to understand your comment (I guess street->string? but I don't understand the "There should be no problem chaning it now." ... do you mean you want to go to change the string in the SRU? why is that not a problem anymore?) [08:05] hey seb128 [08:06] jbicha, hey, I don't know how you handle the VCS but it's confusing to me. Like I'm looking to gnome-desktop you updated the upstream/pristine-tar branches on launchpad, does it mean you are working on the update? [08:06] you didn't touch the ubuntu/master branch though [08:06] I'm good, last night I went to a clean air campaigning thing in town [08:06] smoe people talked about hin [08:06] what [08:06] some weird symbol has appeared in my terminal [08:07] the chinese spie got you during debconf but their spyware software is buggy? ;) [08:07] https://people.canonical.com/~laney/weird-things/wtf.png [08:07] it went away after I pasted that URL [08:08] aaaaaaaaanyway [08:08] seb128: no, I'm not working on gnome-desktop now, I just thought it was helpful to forward those branches along [08:08] they have this project where the put little nitrogen dioxide testing kits all around the city [08:08] so you get an up to date map of levels at different places [08:09] to know where the biggest problem areas are [08:09] jbicha, huuuum [08:09] I guess I could not push those branches to LP if it's confusing [08:09] that's cool i thought [08:09] and I did the backlog I remembered / had email about :P [08:09] ah, nice [08:09] you? [08:09] I'm good! [08:09] we got pretty much on top of updating our packages and landing feature that were going to land [08:10] now I need to start looking that the trello board and rls-bb fix commited bug [08:10] good [08:10] quite some things stalled there I think [08:10] seb128: evince has disabled postscript viewing by default, but I don't think that makes sense for us for cosmic [08:10] https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/evince/issues/967 [08:10] GNOME issue 967 in evince "Disable PostScript pipe command" [1. Security, 5. Ps, Opened] [08:10] that's also the next plan of my "toolking work", after getting versions refreshed a bi [08:10] bit [08:10] yeah don't think we ever got that metric I was interested in seeing [08:11] Debian has patched ghostscript, I pinged #ubuntu-hardened last week about those patches but I didn't get a response yet [08:11] to see if things are moving in / out of there [08:11] right, that's on my todo :) [08:11] jbicha, yeah,let's not disable it [08:11] we have some apparmor profiles in evince that might help? [08:11] also ghostscript 9.24 fixes the issue according to that command [08:11] and versions says that version is out [08:12] so we can as well do that update [08:12] it's in Debian already [08:12] that's usually a Till one [08:12] I'm sure Till is going to merge it [08:12] ok [08:12] right [08:13] and about pushing pristine-tar and upstream/latest to launchpad when you update Debian, I don't know what other think [08:13] I find it more confusing that useful [08:13] it means that you get the same commits there as they have [08:13] it puts the vcs in a intermediate state of the update [08:13] right, but I wanted to merge gnome-desktop [08:13] first thing I did was to pull those from Debian [08:14] to see that jbicha did it already [08:14] which made me believe he was working on the update [08:14] but he's not [08:14] so the outcome is that confused it more than it helped me [08:15] but maybe it's just me and I need to get used to the fact that he (and other) pull bits of the updates without intend to work on the remaining part (merging debian/master in ubuntu/master) [08:15] I've done it the opposite way round before, pushing that branch to Debian without doing the update there [08:16] I guess it could be weird [08:16] it has pro and con [08:16] you make sure than nobody redo those bits and have them diverging [08:16] but it doesn't communicate a clear intend on whether you plan to do the update or not [08:17] any suggestion? [08:17] let me think about it [08:18] not offhand, out of "being consistent would be better", e.g if we pick one we should ask everyone in the team to stick to do it this way [08:19] nod [08:19] for me I would almost always push all of the branches I'm working on at the same time [08:19] so if there is no master branch update then I've not worked on the update at that point [08:20] also for Ubuntu updates at least I tried to claim them on bugs [08:20] not sure if those are helpful pieces [08:20] it might have been better if I had at least opened a LP bug requesting the update and stating that I wasn't working on it [08:22] yeah, claiming on bugs is good [08:22] jbicha, right [08:23] shrug [08:23] I don't understand why those happen (not the first time) [08:23] gnome-calculator$ git status [08:23] On branch upstream/latest [08:23] Your branch and 'origin/upstream/latest' have diverged, [08:23] and have 279 and 1 different commit each, respectively. [08:23] [08:23] that's on my debian gnome-calculator salsa checkout [08:23] I'm the one who did the previous update [08:24] and I pushed to salsa [08:24] how can it conflict today? [08:25] or is that the one I screwed? [08:26] it think it is, I had that conflict, I didn't know how to solve it/why so I nuked my copy but I don't know how to re-create upstream/latest now [08:26] since I can't import-orign, the pristine-tar & debian/experimental branches are updated [08:27] so it's a weird state :/ [08:27] I wonder if I should just get things back to some previous history point and import-dsc the update [08:30] git reset --hard origin/upstream/latest will get you back to the origin state [08:30] not sure if that's the question tho [08:30] part of it [08:30] if I do that I'm going to be on 3.29.90 [08:30] but I updated to .91 [08:31] I just forgot to push upstream/latest when I did that update [08:31] and when I tried to push a week later I got a conflict which I didn't understand [08:31] and I ended up loosing the .91 update to upstream/latest [08:31] and I don't know how to "replay" it now [08:32] like re-do the same thing gbp import-orig did to it [08:32] oh right [08:32] I guess you don't have the tag? [08:32] hum [08:32] yes looks like it is there actually [08:33] I probably pushed the tag and forgot to push the branch [08:33] and it diverged for some reason (it didn't seem to have any commit on the salsa side which is weird) [08:36] it looks to me like the 3.29.91 update was done on a branch that didn't have the 3.29.90 one in it already [08:37] maybe I forgot to pull that one before updating? [08:37] could be [08:37] do you any recommendation of how to fix the branch now? [08:38] My git foo is too limited for that :/ [08:38] I think it can be fixed by git reset --hard origin/upstream/latest; git merge -X theirs upstream/3.29.91 [08:38] let me try [08:38] -X theirs means resolve commits by taking the new side [08:38] then check "git diff upstream/3.29.91" and make sure it is empty [08:38] then you can push that [08:38] $ git diff upstream/3.29.91 [08:38] $ [08:38] good [08:38] Which usually works but sometimes results in extra commits you don't want. You can then "drop" those using "git rebase -i" [08:38] thanks ! [08:40] yeah, now I've a commit that is a merge [08:40] but at least the content of the branch is right [08:41] seb128, try git log --graph :) [08:42] don't think it matters that there are extra merge commits there [08:42] yeah, just an ocd problem :p [08:45] k, other git question of the day [08:45] I just did an import-orig while being on debian/experimental but I want debian/unstable in fact for those uploads [08:45] how do I tell it to revert all the branches to their origin state [08:46] so I can checkout master and redo the import? [08:47] if it was me I would just reset or delete debian/experimental and "git merge upstream/3.30.0" in debian/master [08:48] I don't know of a quick way to reset multiple branches [08:48] probably Trevinho has some weird alias for that :p [08:49] oh, well, going with old test method [08:49] rm -rf; gbp clone : [08:49] :p [08:49] well you can do a shell loop [08:49] for branch in foo bar; do git checkout $branch; git reset --hard origin/$branch; done [08:50] I guess that work [08:50] though git reset always scare me [08:50] it's hard to actually lose commits forever [08:50] it doesn't really undo things, or at least keep copies/record [08:50] (git reflog) [08:50] right [08:50] (they are kept around until garbage collected) [08:50] but it makes me feel like my checkout is corrupted with local errors and not in a fresh state [08:51] I guess I need to get used to that [08:51] and stop try to do a "full reset" [08:54] actually probably merging the debian/experimental branch is better than the tag that I just said, otherwise you would lose any changes made to the packaging in the branch of course (not that there are any for gnome-calculator, but there might be in general) [08:54] right, I'm doing that now [08:55] what if I want to discard the debian/gbp.conf update after doing merge [08:55] is that also a reset --hard on the file? [08:55] or is there a better way to tell it "don't merge that bit"? [08:55] I didn't commit/push yet [08:55] no, I would "git revert" the commit that edited that [08:56] how do I find that commit? ;) [08:56] checkout debian/experimental & log? [08:56] easiest is probably git blame debian/watch [08:56] and look at the last edit to the line with the version [08:58] thanks mutt for opening a pdf in GIMP [08:58] $ git revert ac2ecddd [08:58] error: Your local changes would be overwritten by revert. [08:58] hint: Commit your changes or stash them to proceed. [08:59] [08:59] so you would commit with the wrong content and stack the revert on top? [08:59] I probably would [08:59] k [08:59] thanks for all the answer [09:00] that's enough git questions for today (hopefully) [09:00] no worries, I'm happy to teach [09:25] * didrocks updates g-s-d/g-c-c [11:00] taking up gnome-calculator [11:00] didrocks, sorry, it's done [11:00] ah ;) [11:01] versions didn't refresh yet I guess [11:01] yep [11:01] adwaita-icon-theme? [11:01] go! :) [11:01] doing :) [11:02] ah, this one needs bootstrapping [11:02] there is also nm-applet which might be a bit less trivial than the .92 ->0 updates as well [11:02] bootstrapping? [11:02] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/git/NewPackageImport [11:02] using this ^ [11:02] ah, you mean for the vcs [11:02] yep [11:02] you can also do it without vcs if you want :) [11:03] * didrocks is almost tempted [11:03] ok, sold! ;) [11:03] * didrocks runs uscan and uupdate, so long! ;) [11:04] waow configure.ac :p [11:05] good old autotools :) [11:05] * didrocks is unsure about the "good" adjective though :p [11:06] hehe [11:06] Trevinho, hey, are you handling the .30 update for shell? other components as well? [11:09] jbicha, do you plan to ask for a ffe/update seahorse? [11:10] didrocks: autotooling :-) [11:10] Nafallo: without autoreconf though, the experience is incomplete :p [11:11] isn't that autoretooling? ;-) [11:13] haha [11:13] doing evince [11:13] (no vcs as well) [11:15] oh [11:15] - [enable_browser_plugin=yes]) [11:15] + [enable_browser_plugin=no]) [11:15] let's see if there is any diff in the build [11:15] didrocks, don't [11:15] seems we disable it in d/rules [11:16] so, should be all good [11:16] didrocks, refresh your version page [11:16] didrocks, it's done in Debian, just need to be synced [11:16] ah, when I saw it wasn't up to date in Debian, I just looked at -proposed [11:16] ok ;) [11:16] didrocks, suggestions of things todo [11:16] - network-manager-applet [11:17] - gvfs (new serie, needs ffe) [11:17] I was up for short things before leaving [11:17] - gnome-screenshot (needs to fix a build issue I introduced when updating, one patch refresh went wrong, it's on my todo) [11:17] ah [11:17] cheese? [11:17] hopefully it's easy [11:17] yeah, sounds good, but maybe needs a ffe? [11:17] depends if the changes include a feature [11:18] let me look [11:18] https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/cheese/commit/ab4bbb9ec65ae84607b95f0ca5bca61f7a8ac71f [11:18] seems not from the NEWS [11:18] yep, the camera toggle button is more UI than a proper feature [11:18] right, I was going to say [11:19] ok, then! cheesing around [11:19] :) [11:21] installing valac though :( [11:23] :/ [11:23] when can we have sebQUANTUM? :-) === pstolowski is now known as pstolowski|lunch [11:36] Laney, do you have room to look at the dconf autopkgtest issue at some point in the next week? we ended up deleting the new package for bionic because nobody managed to debug that and it looks like it's on the same path for cosmic :/ [11:36] I tried to have a look but that was before I knew that armhf == lxc, and I tried on porter boxes back then [11:36] guess so [11:36] did you try on lxd on your own machine? [11:37] I still have it on my todo but it looks like I keep delaying that so maybe it's better if I bounce it to someone who has more free cycles [11:37] I did at the end of the bionic cycle and got an issue [11:37] so probably the same [11:37] but I never manage to sit down to debug it since :/ [11:38] managed [11:38] ETOOBUSY [11:38] well, if you find some free cycle I would appreciate if you could poke at it [11:38] it's not a priority though so don't worry too much about it if you are busy [11:43] can put it on the list [11:43] didn't notice it got synced tbh [11:43] it's me, I wanted to see if it was still failing and get it on the list of things to resolve ... we can delete again from proposed if needed [11:44] it's just some backlog item that needs to be cleared at some point [11:44] on that note, going back from that lunch place, be back at my desk in a bit === pstolowski|lunch is now known as pstolowski [13:29] meeting o'clock! :-D [13:30] :29 is not meeting o'clock no [13:30] now it is though! [13:30] 13:30:30 < seb128> :29 is not meeting o'clock no [13:30] ;-) [13:31] #startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2018-09-04 [13:31] Meeting started Tue Sep 4 13:31:44 2018 UTC. The chair is seb128. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. [13:31] Available commands: action commands idea info link nick === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/3VYBPFaR/ubuntu-desktop-1810-cycle | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2018-09-04 | Current topic: [13:31] o/ [13:31] o/ [13:31] o/ [13:31] I'm going to chair this one, will is not feeling well today [13:31] Nafallo leaves in UTC+0001 [13:32] s/leaves/lives/ [13:32] Roll call: andyrock, dgadomski, didrocks, duflu (out), jamesh (out), jibel/heber, kenvandine, laney, oSoMoN, seb128, tkamppeter, trevinho, robert_ancell (out) [13:32] \o [13:32] o/ [13:32] k, let's get started [13:32] #topic andyrock === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/3VYBPFaR/ubuntu-desktop-1810-cycle | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2018-09-04 | Current topic: andyrock [13:32] andyrock, hey [13:32] hey [13:32] - 3.29 -> 3.30 [13:32] # proposed gnome-online-accounts 3.30 in Cosmic [13:32] - Online-accounts: [13:32] # Working on adding a webpage to the login process [13:32] - SRU: [13:32] # Tested SRU for LP: #1770686 both in cosmic and xenial [13:32] # Proposed MR to SRU fix for LP: #1764723 (https://code.launchpad.net/~azzar1/ubuntu/+source/gnome-initial-setup/+git/gnome-initial-setup/+merge/354195) [13:32] Launchpad bug 1770686 in software-properties (Ubuntu Bionic) "Hide livepatch widgets in flavors without an online account panel in gnome-control-center" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1770686 [13:32] Launchpad bug 1764723 in gnome-initial-setup (Ubuntu Bionic) "gnome-initial-setup says that Livepatch is "all set" even if enabling is still in progress." [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1764723 [13:33] on holidays last week so not too much :D [13:34] thanks andyrock, I hope you enjoyed the holidays and relaxed [13:34] #topic dgadomski === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/3VYBPFaR/ubuntu-desktop-1810-cycle | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2018-09-04 | Current topic: dgadomski [13:34] dgadomski, hey [13:34] hey [13:34] * working on bug #1762391 [13:34] * working on g-c-c part of bug #1755490 [13:34] bug 1762391 in gnome-terminal (Ubuntu) "pam_group.so is not evaluated by gnome-terminal" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1762391 [13:34] bug 1755490 in unity-settings-daemon (Ubuntu) "Incorrect information about display shown in unity-control-center" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1755490 [13:34] eof [13:34] thanks dgadomski [13:35] #topic didrocks === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/3VYBPFaR/ubuntu-desktop-1810-cycle | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2018-09-04 | Current topic: didrocks [13:35] (Didier is out for a bit so he sent his summary) [13:35] 4 days week [13:35] * Yaru: [13:35] - rebootstrap suru-icon-theme which was incorrectly updated and documented a workflow for it: https://community.ubuntu.com/t/please-take-care-when-merging-back-suru-icon-theme-to-our-repository/7841 [13:35] - looked at recent diff between upstream theme and Yaru [13:35] - looked at snapcraft issue (snap is not building anymore) and sent upstream [13:35] - filed and merged missing sound icon in Suru (and so, Yaru): https://github.com/snwh/suru-icon-theme/issues/88 [13:35] snwh issue 88 in suru-icon-theme "Missing audio-volume-overamplified-symbolic (introduced by GNOME Shell 3.30)" [Closed] [13:35] * ubuntu-report: [13:35] - add disks and oem dcd collects (bug #1786432 & bug #1784383) [13:35] bug 1786432 in ubuntu-report (Ubuntu Bionic) "Collect DCD file " [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1786432 [13:35] - released to cosmic, SRU to bionic. [13:35] bug 1784383 in ubuntu-report (Ubuntu Bionic) "Collect number of disks and disk size" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1784383 [13:35] - move master to go 1.11 and use modules feature now. [13:35] * Misc: [13:35] - upgraded my main machine to cosmic [13:35] - next installer documentation writings + discussions. [13:36] - ubuntu-settings reviewed and sponsored for keeping default theme as Ambiance on unity + other review for per-session migration (https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/3385) [13:36] - Reviewing XUbuntuCancel work from Trevhino + testing/sponsoring (branches linked to https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/3398) [13:36] - Discussed and point o_gra at booth-demo-manager for some snap related showcase [13:36] #topic duflu === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/3VYBPFaR/ubuntu-desktop-1810-cycle | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2018-09-04 | Current topic: duflu [13:37] * Gnome Shell performance: [13:37] - FINALLY FINISHED geometric (GPU-less) picking support: [13:37] . https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/merge_requests/189 [13:37] - Page flipping-related branches are now in a mild deadlock (unless I want to make future conflicts worse), all touching the same areas of code. So now loosely blocked awaiting landing of [13:37] . https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/merge_requests/171 in order to unblock: [13:37] . https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/merge_requests/140 and: [13:37] GNOME issue (Merge request) 189 in mutter "Geometric (GPU-less) picking" [1. Feature, 5. Clutter, 5. Performance, Opened] [13:37] . https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/merge_requests/73 [13:37] GNOME issue (Merge request) 171 in mutter "Sync to the hardware refresh rate, not just 60.00Hz [performance]" [1. Feature, 5. Backend: Native, Opened] [13:37] GNOME issue (Merge request) 140 in mutter "WIP: renderer-native: Simplify swap notification" [1. Feature, 5. Backend: Native, Opened] [13:37] - Continued reworking high priority fixes to satisfy upstream: [13:37] GNOME issue (Merge request) 73 in mutter "WIP: renderer-native: CRTCs now hold front buffer refs." [1. Bug, 5. Backend: Native, 5. Performance, Opened] [13:37] . https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/merge_requests/117 [13:37] GNOME issue (Merge request) 117 in mutter "clutter: Fix offscreen-effect painting of clones" [1. Bug, 5. Clutter, 5. Performance, Opened] [13:37] . https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/merge_requests/171 [13:37] GNOME issue (Merge request) 171 in mutter "Sync to the hardware refresh rate, not just 60.00Hz [performance]" [1. Feature, 5. Backend: Native, Opened] [13:37] - Some new fixes proposed: [13:37] . https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/merge_requests/216 [13:37] GNOME issue (Merge request) 216 in mutter "cogl-winsys-glx: Fix frame notification race/leak" [Opened] [13:37] . https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/merge_requests/214 [13:37] GNOME issue (Merge request) 214 in mutter "clutter: Clarify clutter_stage_get_actor_at_pos docs" [Opened] [13:37] - Returned to working on "super-smooth" (reduces missed frames and increases frame rates)... [13:37] . https://gitlab.gnome.org/vanvugt/mutter/tree/super-smooth-v2 [13:37] * Bug management: [13:37] - Some stunning progress on firefox and thunderbird this week (Paul White and others?) [13:37] - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vRDHPxGBHqM6XkT_S8ggtYfD0xchKSUD_z9PopNVE3G1rU05fVSnxDGcDsEstl7gu7N-tzCU6mLUp2V/pubchart?oid=254968654&format=interactive [13:38] #topic === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/3VYBPFaR/ubuntu-desktop-1810-cycle | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2018-09-04 | Current topic: [13:38] (following the serie of verbose summary, be ready) [13:38] snapd-glib get_interface_info() patch: [13:38] * I updated my PR adding the interfaces API based on Robert's [13:38] comments: https://github.com/snapcore/snapd-glib/pull/40 [13:38] * I'm still not sure whether it is worth merging in this state, since [13:38] the snapd side of the API does not provide the information I thought [13:38] it would (i.e. while it supports snapd-side filtering, it doesn't [13:38] snapcore issue (Pull request) 40 in snapd-glib "WIP: Add support for the "interface info" mode of the /v2/interfaces API" [Open] [13:38] provide interface connection information). [13:38] pulseaudio snap policy module: [13:38] * I prepared backports for Bionic and Xenial. [13:38] * While the patches compiled correctly on Xenial, the resulting [13:39] package failed under testing due to a too-old snapd-glib. I [13:39] considered updating the patch, but on further thought, I think [13:39] updating snapd-glib is the better option. As a pulseaudio is a long [13:39] running service, the auto-reconnect feature added to newer snapd-glib [13:39] is critical. Without it, microphone access for snaps might suddenly [13:39] be cut half way through a user session when snapd is restarted after [13:39] an update. [13:39] * I'll discuss with Ken whether it is worth pursuing the Xenial [13:39] backport if we need to also update snapd-glib. [13:39] snapcraft: [13:39] * I've been working on a proof of concept patch for snapcraft to [13:39] separate out debug information here: [13:39] https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/2239 [13:39] snapcore issue (Pull request) 2239 in snapcraft "WIP: pluginhandler: after building a part, separate debug info from executables and strip them" [Open] [13:39] * At present it can separate debug information after a part has built [13:39] (in a layout that gdb is happy to parse). I'm working to extend it to [13:39] then collect debug symbols for any files primed from each of those [13:39] parts into a tarball. [13:39] * Evan has suggested penciling in a session in Brussels to discuss how [13:39] to proceed with this feature. [13:40] [13:40] k, should be enough for IRC to digest [13:40] #topic jibel === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/3VYBPFaR/ubuntu-desktop-1810-cycle | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2018-09-04 | Current topic: jibel [13:40] jibel, hey [13:40] Hi seb128 and all [13:40] - SRU verification: packagekit, ubuntu-report in bionic [13:40] - Manual review of the cosmic images [13:40] - Added iso size indicator to the dashboard [13:40]