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lyoriancan we change the phabricator link to not suggest weaker passwords on the reset password link.00:15
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T61: Our xscreensaver theme is too old] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T61#123700:21
lubot<TheWendyPower> @lugito [<lugito>  3[  13T61: Our xscreensaver theme is too old  3]   15lynorian (Lyn Per …], The screensavers themselves, or the login box?01:27
lubot<tsimonq2> @TheWendyPower [The screensavers themselves, or the login box?], Both.01:28
wxl@TheWendyPower hurry! fix them!03:33
wxl@tsimonq2: 2122 [oftc] -GitHub:#lxqt-dev- [libfm-qt] tsujan created revert_fix_info_job from master (+0 new commits): 04:24
wxl          https://github.com/lxqt/libfm-qt/commits/revert_fix_info_job04:24
wxlemphasis on revert. wth04:24
wxl@tsimonq2: it's official. it's reverted.04:29
wxlhttps://github.com/lxqt/libfm-qt/commit/3de8c8632e3b969902ff3b5131860a2b674e2e4504:29
lubot<tsimonq2> Why?04:29
wxlfrom tsjan himself "04:29
wxlThat method wasn't a good idea and had side effects. A real solution should be found"04:29
lubot<tsimonq2> Then do the packaging work :)04:30
wxlhuh?04:30
lubot<tsimonq2> Remove the patch from our packaging and prepare an upload?04:31
wxlit's not there unless you added it04:31
wxli was going to add it04:31
wxlremember?04:31
lubot<tsimonq2> Ohh04:32
wxlwhat version and how are you trying to do it?04:35
wxloops04:36
lubot<ZebedeeBoss> I have no idea what commands to type to get this backtrace  Β»>  simple user - it took me years to get to grips with xrandr type commands04:54
wxlok where you at in the process?04:54
lubot<ZebedeeBoss> I have disabled apport04:54
wxlok now install gdb04:55
lubot<ZebedeeBoss> done that as well sorry04:55
wxlok04:55
wxl1s04:56
wxlgdb lxqt-config-monitor 2>&1 | tee ~/gdb-lxqt-config-monitor.txt04:57
wxl^^ type that04:57
lubot<ZebedeeBoss> done04:57
wxlyou will be put into a (gdb) prompt04:57
lubot<ZebedeeBoss> yup04:57
wxlat that prompt do this:04:57
wxlhandle SIG33 pass nostop noprint04:57
wxlthen this:04:58
wxlset pagination 004:58
wxlthen:04:58
wxlrun04:58
wxlat that point lxqt-config-monitor will start04:58
lubot<ZebedeeBoss> yup04:58
wxlgo through the steps necessary to cause a problem04:58
lubot<ZebedeeBoss> which will log me off04:58
wxlok04:59
wxllet's get smart here then04:59
wxlinstall screen or tmux and we'll do it in that04:59
lubot<tsimonq2> ...you're piping it to a text file anyway.04:59
lubot<tsimonq2> Right?04:59
wxlyeah but it might kill the gdb process04:59
lubot<tsimonq2> Hmm04:59
wxlbut multiplexing would fix that04:59
lubot<ZebedeeBoss> shall we try it as I am here already05:00
lubot<ZebedeeBoss> click apply and will be back in a moment05:00
wxlsure, let's try that and we have a fall back if need be05:00
lubot<ZebedeeBoss> brb05:00
lubot<ZebedeeBoss> ok three is a txt file but I do not know if it is complete05:01
wxlprobably not05:01
wxlwant to pastebinit?05:01
lubot<ZebedeeBoss> yup two ticks05:02
lubot<ZebedeeBoss> https://pastebin.com/XAE6EUjA05:03
wxlyeah that didn't work05:04
wxlinstall tmux or screen (i like tmux)05:04
lubot<ZebedeeBoss> done tmux05:04
wxlso run it05:05
wxl`tmux`05:05
wxland then do over what we did before05:05
lubot<ZebedeeBoss> nothing apprear to happen ? when I type tmux in a terminal ?05:05
lubot<ZebedeeBoss> ok hang on I can see the screen is diff05:06
wxlyep05:06
lubot<ZebedeeBoss> ok I am ready to hit apply in the monitor settings05:07
wxldo itttttt 05:07
wxlif you get logged out it's ok05:07
wxljust come back in and open a terminal and i'll tell you a secret05:07
lubot<ZebedeeBoss> ok here05:08
wxlok05:08
wxlnow do thi:05:08
wxltmux -u2 attach -d05:08
wxlare you back at your (gdb) prompt?05:08
lubot<ZebedeeBoss> just a plain terminal05:09
wxlhuhhhhhhhh05:09
wxldo this: pgrep gdb05:09
wxlanything?05:09
lubot<ZebedeeBoss> 369705:10
wxlok so it's still running05:10
wxlyou did run `tmux attach`????05:10
wxlin a terminal, obviously05:10
lubot<ZebedeeBoss> I did now and we are back to gdp - I read the Q about gdb before actioning command05:11
wxlok good05:11
wxlso now do this at the (gdb) prompt:05:11
wxlbacktrace full05:11
wxlthen:05:12
wxlinfo registers05:12
wxlthen:05:12
lubot<ZebedeeBoss> reply is no stack05:12
lubot<ZebedeeBoss> to backtrace command05:12
wxlthat mighe be bad but we'll see05:12
wxlx/16i $pc05:12
wxlthread apply all backtrace05:12
wxlquit05:12
lubot<ZebedeeBoss> the program has no registers now05:13
lubot<ZebedeeBoss> ok back to plain terminal05:13
wxlpastebin that file up05:13
lubot<ZebedeeBoss> which file lol05:13
wxl~/gdb-lxqt-config-monitor.txt05:14
lubot<ZebedeeBoss> https://pastebin.com/RtJYdykh05:15
wxlsighp05:15
wxlok let me do some research05:16
lubot<ZebedeeBoss> no probs  :)05:16
lubot<ZebedeeBoss> for the record this command also boots you out back to login 'xrandr --output DP-2 --scale 0.8x0.8'05:18
wxland any sort of scaling?05:18
lubot<ZebedeeBoss> no still on 4k05:19
wxlwhat i mean is, if you use different values for the scale do you still have the same problem?05:19
lubot<ZebedeeBoss> yeah 1.5 also boots you out05:20
wxland 1x1, as weird as it sounds?05:20
lubot<ZebedeeBoss> does nothing as it is already at 1:1 scaling05:21
wxlinteresting. add that as a comment to the bug05:21
lubot<ZebedeeBoss> will do05:21
lubot<ZebedeeBoss> done05:23
wxlthx05:23
lubot<ZebedeeBoss> the next one we will tackle is the failure of steam to load but that will have to be another day :P05:24
wxlthat might be somethint to ask the steam folks about05:25
lubot<ZebedeeBoss> it only fails in Lubuntu LXQt though ?05:25
lubot<ZebedeeBoss> but I will keep playng  :D05:26
wxlwhat about in kubuntu 18.10?05:26
lubot<ZebedeeBoss> I will try that now - will dl nightly and install - back a bit later  :)05:27
wxlhey @ZebedeeBoss in `journalctl` do you find any lines referring to `systemd-coredump`?05:30
lubot<ZebedeeBoss> and where is journalctl ?05:31
wxl`something` is markdown syntax for code, which is to say, it implies you open a terminal and run: something05:32
wxlin this case i'm suggesting running: journalctl05:32
lubot<ZebedeeBoss> ok thanks I will try and remember that05:33
wxlonce you're in it, you should be able to type /systemd-coredump and hit enter to search for it05:33
lubot<ZebedeeBoss> iver cdc_ether05:35
wxloh hm05:35
wxltry something like this then:05:35
wxljournalctl | grep -A 10 systemd-coredump | pastebinit05:35
lubot<ZebedeeBoss> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/ZGHFMQsyDd/05:36
wxloh05:36
wxlboo05:37
lubot<ZebedeeBoss> back in a bit - have to put the rubbish out for collection :P05:39
lubot<ZebedeeBoss> Kubuntu also logs you out when changing the monitor from the Displays tool - fyi06:38
wxlOoohHH add that too!!!06:39
wxlthat means it ALSO affects their tool06:39
lubot<ZebedeeBoss> ooh cancel that - it now appears to be working ok ??06:43
lubot<ZebedeeBoss> reboot needed - brb06:44
lubot<ZebedeeBoss> ok I knew something kicked you out.    It is when you try and change the screen Resolution that it kicks you out.   Moving the monitors around is fine06:48
lubot<ZebedeeBoss> interestingly the xrandr scale command works in kubuntu - so a very mixed bag of results06:50
lubot<ZebedeeBoss> but moving onto the steam Q - will install nvidia and test06:50
lubot<ZebedeeBoss> Steam installed flawlessley in Kubuntu nightly from the dl .deb file07:36
lubot<tsimonq2> @q5sys Thanks for the follow from Trident!14:21
lubot<q5sys> (Document) https://telegram.lubuntu.me/76gs8OSi/file_4086.mp414:24
lubot<TheWendyPower> @wxl [<wxl> @TheWendyPower hurry! fix them!], Looking into it. All the documentation I'm finding is OLD... As in for versions <5.014:27
lubot<luca_aleksandr> I can not access the monitor setup! of the adminstrator error .. how to concert it?15:25
lubot<luca_aleksandr> help15:42
lubot<tsimonq2> @luca_aleksandr [I can not access the monitor setup! of the adminstrator error .. how to concert …], This channel is not for support.16:43
lubot<tsimonq2> See https://telegram.lubuntu.me/support for that.16:43
lubot<tsimonq2> @TheWendyPower [Looking into it. All the documentation I'm finding is OLD... As in for versions …], πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘16:43
wxlanyone have a cifs volume that they could try to reproduce bug 1790924?19:04
ubot93Bug 1790924 in pcmanfm (Ubuntu) "pcmanfm desktop shortcut cifs mount volumes" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/179092419:04
lubot<tsimonq2> @wxl [<wxl> anyone have a cifs volume that they could try to reproduce bug 1790924?], What in the heck is a CIFS volume? πŸ˜†20:25
wxl@tsimonq2: smb..... 1 ewwwww20:30
lubot<HMollerCl> @wxl [<wxl> anyone have a cifs volume that they could try to reproduce bug 1790924?], I can see them21:31
wxl@HMollerCl following the same procedure of manually mounting in the terminal in 16.04?21:32
lubot<HMollerCl> no, wait, can't see it21:32
lubot<HMollerCl> but I'm not sure if they are ment to be seen21:33
wxlsorry i meant 18.04. they claim it works with 16.04 but not 18.0421:34
wxlooh i have a thought21:35
lubot<HMollerCl> I'm not sure I saw it in 16.0421:36
lubot<HMollerCl> but, I normally mount it in fstab21:36
wxlif you go to preferences  > layout and select network, do you see it?21:36
lubot<HMollerCl> (wonder how layour is tranlated to spanish)21:37
wxluhhhhhhhh21:37
wxldiseΓ±o?21:37
lubot<HMollerCl> @wxl What else do you see in layout?21:37
wxl@HMollerCl https://share.riseup.net/#KqHmnxSboJZvTU0E2IyKWg21:39
wxlthat's 18.04/bionic btw21:39
lubot<HMollerCl> aaaaa, ok, Prefrences from pcmanfm21:41
lubot<HMollerCl> nope, don't see it21:42
wxlharumph21:42
lubot<HMollerCl> I don't see it in pcmanfm, I always created a "favorite" for them21:42
wxlcould you leave a comment on that bug? i think if you two put your heads together you could probably get to the bottom of this. i don't have a volume really to test21:43
lubot<HMollerCl> ok21:43
lubot<HMollerCl> My thoghts is that they might be a flag or something, otherwise your swap partition (if you have) woul also appear there21:44
wxli have a share at work but i think i have to do some vm networking magic to get it to behave right with it21:45
lubot<tsimonq2> @TheWendyPower Do you have any experience with QML (or the willingness to learn the basics)?22:28
lubot<tsimonq2> Bug 1790887.22:28
tsimonq2Bug 1790887.22:28
ubot93Bug 1790887 in Lubuntu Artwork "SDDM power icons off screen" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/179088722:28
tsimonq2bah22:28
wxlwth22:28
tsimonq2ikr22:28
lubot<tsimonq2> Anyway.22:28
lubot<tsimonq2> This is an SDDM theme: https://phab.lubuntu.me/source/lubuntu-artwork/browse/ubuntu%252Fcosmic/src/usr/share/sddm/themes/lubuntu/22:29
lubot<tsimonq2> (SDDM being the login manager)22:29
lubot<tsimonq2> These live in sddm-theme-lubuntu and are installed to sddm-theme-lubuntu22:30
lubot<tsimonq2> grr22:30
tsimonq2uhh bad Telegram is bad22:30
lubot<tsimonq2> This: /usr/share/sddm/themes/lubuntu/metadata.desktop22:30
lubot<TheWendyPower> @tsimonq2 [@TheWendyPower Do you have any experience with QML (or the willingness to learn …], I have no experience, but I am willing to learn.23:01
lubot<tsimonq2> @TheWendyPower [I have no experience, but I am willing to learn.], Give it a shot :)23:02
lubot<tsimonq2> Maybe play with the values of `/usr/share/sddm/themes/lubuntu/main.qml` in a VM?23:03
lubot<tsimonq2> (i.e. log in, modify something, and log out again)23:03
lubot<TheWendyPower> @tsimonq2 [Give it a shot :)], Sounds good! I just got a small SSD just for this kind of stuff. I'll get Lubuntu loaded up on it.23:06
lubot<tsimonq2> Awesome ;)23:06
wxl@TheWendyPower feel free to ping either one of us if you need help with that. i don't know what your level of experience is with the likes of virtualization and what have you..23:10
wxlspeaking of which i think i'm going to try to figure out x in a container23:10
wxloh and @tsimonq2 i started working on trojita23:10
lubot<tsimonq2> Sweeeeeeet23:10
lubot<tsimonq2> How far you get?23:11
wxlwell, i've compiled it, which is to say i've got the build-depends figured out23:11
wxlthere's some really skeleton packaging that's got a bunch of depends in it that i need to double check are actually necessary23:11
wxli've got most of control otherwise sorted out23:11
lubot<tsimonq2> You might want to just package the upstream snapshot23:12
lubot<tsimonq2> Plus, I'll warn you now: the thing that sucks the most about new packages from scratch is the copyright review.23:12
lubot<tsimonq2> You need to look at every. single. file. and note every. single. author as well as license in the debian/copyright file.23:12
wxlisn't there a tool to help with that?23:13
wxlbtw http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/jkt-gentoo:/trojita/xUbuntu_16.04/23:13
lubot<tsimonq2> There's licensecheck but it's super spotty and doesn't show authors iirc.23:13
lubot<tsimonq2> Otherwise you still need a manual review.23:13
lubot<tsimonq2> It's a waste of freaking time.23:13
wxlok well c'est la vie23:13
wxlthe big issue will be getting the technical aspects done23:13
wxlbrb boba run23:13
lubot<tsimonq2> boba? XD23:13
wxlhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bubble_tea23:14
lubot<tsimonq2> ooh23:14
lubot<tsimonq2> cool23:14
lubot<tsimonq2> wxl: Also don't forget to use Git.23:15
lubot<tsimonq2> wxl: I just created https://phab.lubuntu.me/source/trojita/ for you.23:17
lubot<tsimonq2> Make sure to point Vcs-* et. al at it.23:17
wxlah i was using upstream's but that makes more sense23:30

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