[00:15] can we change the phabricator link to not suggest weaker passwords on the reset password link. [00:21] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T61: Our xscreensaver theme is too old] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T61#1237 [01:27] @lugito [ 3[ 13T61: Our xscreensaver theme is too old 3] 15lynorian (Lyn Per …], The screensavers themselves, or the login box? [01:28] @TheWendyPower [The screensavers themselves, or the login box?], Both. [03:33] @TheWendyPower hurry! fix them! [04:24] @tsimonq2: 2122 [oftc] -GitHub:#lxqt-dev- [libfm-qt] tsujan created revert_fix_info_job from master (+0 new commits): [04:24] https://github.com/lxqt/libfm-qt/commits/revert_fix_info_job [04:24] emphasis on revert. wth [04:29] @tsimonq2: it's official. it's reverted. [04:29] https://github.com/lxqt/libfm-qt/commit/3de8c8632e3b969902ff3b5131860a2b674e2e45 [04:29] Why? [04:29] from tsjan himself " [04:29] That method wasn't a good idea and had side effects. A real solution should be found" [04:30] Then do the packaging work :) [04:30] huh? [04:31] Remove the patch from our packaging and prepare an upload? [04:31] it's not there unless you added it [04:31] i was going to add it [04:31] remember? [04:32] Ohh [04:35] what version and how are you trying to do it? [04:36] oops [04:54] I have no idea what commands to type to get this backtrace »> simple user - it took me years to get to grips with xrandr type commands [04:54] ok where you at in the process? [04:54] I have disabled apport [04:55] ok now install gdb [04:55] done that as well sorry [04:55] ok [04:56] 1s [04:57] gdb lxqt-config-monitor 2>&1 | tee ~/gdb-lxqt-config-monitor.txt [04:57] ^^ type that [04:57] done [04:57] you will be put into a (gdb) prompt [04:57] yup [04:57] at that prompt do this: [04:57] handle SIG33 pass nostop noprint [04:58] then this: [04:58] set pagination 0 [04:58] then: [04:58] run [04:58] at that point lxqt-config-monitor will start [04:58] yup [04:58] go through the steps necessary to cause a problem [04:58] which will log me off [04:59] ok [04:59] let's get smart here then [04:59] install screen or tmux and we'll do it in that [04:59] ...you're piping it to a text file anyway. [04:59] Right? [04:59] yeah but it might kill the gdb process [04:59] Hmm [04:59] but multiplexing would fix that [05:00] shall we try it as I am here already [05:00] click apply and will be back in a moment [05:00] sure, let's try that and we have a fall back if need be [05:00] brb [05:01] ok three is a txt file but I do not know if it is complete [05:01] probably not [05:01] want to pastebinit? [05:02] yup two ticks [05:03] https://pastebin.com/XAE6EUjA [05:04] yeah that didn't work [05:04] install tmux or screen (i like tmux) [05:04] done tmux [05:05] so run it [05:05] `tmux` [05:05] and then do over what we did before [05:05] nothing apprear to happen ? when I type tmux in a terminal ? [05:06] ok hang on I can see the screen is diff [05:06] yep [05:07] ok I am ready to hit apply in the monitor settings [05:07] do itttttt [05:07] if you get logged out it's ok [05:07] just come back in and open a terminal and i'll tell you a secret [05:08] ok here [05:08] ok [05:08] now do thi: [05:08] tmux -u2 attach -d [05:08] are you back at your (gdb) prompt? [05:09] just a plain terminal [05:09] huhhhhhhhh [05:09] do this: pgrep gdb [05:09] anything? [05:10] 3697 [05:10] ok so it's still running [05:10] you did run `tmux attach`???? [05:10] in a terminal, obviously [05:11] I did now and we are back to gdp - I read the Q about gdb before actioning command [05:11] ok good [05:11] so now do this at the (gdb) prompt: [05:11] backtrace full [05:12] then: [05:12] info registers [05:12] then: [05:12] reply is no stack [05:12] to backtrace command [05:12] that mighe be bad but we'll see [05:12] x/16i $pc [05:12] thread apply all backtrace [05:12] quit [05:13] the program has no registers now [05:13] ok back to plain terminal [05:13] pastebin that file up [05:13] which file lol [05:14] ~/gdb-lxqt-config-monitor.txt [05:15] https://pastebin.com/RtJYdykh [05:15] sighp [05:16] ok let me do some research [05:16] no probs :) [05:18] for the record this command also boots you out back to login 'xrandr --output DP-2 --scale 0.8x0.8' [05:18] and any sort of scaling? [05:19] no still on 4k [05:19] what i mean is, if you use different values for the scale do you still have the same problem? [05:20] yeah 1.5 also boots you out [05:20] and 1x1, as weird as it sounds? [05:21] does nothing as it is already at 1:1 scaling [05:21] interesting. add that as a comment to the bug [05:21] will do [05:23] done [05:23] thx [05:24] the next one we will tackle is the failure of steam to load but that will have to be another day :P [05:25] that might be somethint to ask the steam folks about [05:25] it only fails in Lubuntu LXQt though ? [05:26] but I will keep playng :D [05:26] what about in kubuntu 18.10? [05:27] I will try that now - will dl nightly and install - back a bit later :) [05:30] hey @ZebedeeBoss in `journalctl` do you find any lines referring to `systemd-coredump`? [05:31] and where is journalctl ? [05:32] `something` is markdown syntax for code, which is to say, it implies you open a terminal and run: something [05:32] in this case i'm suggesting running: journalctl [05:33] ok thanks I will try and remember that [05:33] once you're in it, you should be able to type /systemd-coredump and hit enter to search for it [05:35] iver cdc_ether [05:35] oh hm [05:35] try something like this then: [05:35] journalctl | grep -A 10 systemd-coredump | pastebinit [05:36] http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/ZGHFMQsyDd/ [05:36] oh [05:37] boo [05:39] back in a bit - have to put the rubbish out for collection :P [06:38] Kubuntu also logs you out when changing the monitor from the Displays tool - fyi [06:39] OoohHH add that too!!! [06:39] that means it ALSO affects their tool [06:43] ooh cancel that - it now appears to be working ok ?? [06:44] reboot needed - brb [06:48] ok I knew something kicked you out. It is when you try and change the screen Resolution that it kicks you out. Moving the monitors around is fine [06:50] interestingly the xrandr scale command works in kubuntu - so a very mixed bag of results [06:50] but moving onto the steam Q - will install nvidia and test [07:36] Steam installed flawlessley in Kubuntu nightly from the dl .deb file [14:21] @q5sys Thanks for the follow from Trident! [14:24] (Document) https://telegram.lubuntu.me/76gs8OSi/file_4086.mp4 [14:27] @wxl [ @TheWendyPower hurry! fix them!], Looking into it. All the documentation I'm finding is OLD... As in for versions <5.0 [15:25] I can not access the monitor setup! of the adminstrator error .. how to concert it? [15:42] help [16:43] @luca_aleksandr [I can not access the monitor setup! of the adminstrator error .. how to concert …], This channel is not for support. [16:43] See https://telegram.lubuntu.me/support for that. [16:43] @TheWendyPower [Looking into it. All the documentation I'm finding is OLD... As in for versions …], 👍👍👍👍👍 [19:04] anyone have a cifs volume that they could try to reproduce bug 1790924? [19:04] Bug 1790924 in pcmanfm (Ubuntu) "pcmanfm desktop shortcut cifs mount volumes" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1790924 [20:25] @wxl [ anyone have a cifs volume that they could try to reproduce bug 1790924?], What in the heck is a CIFS volume? 😆 [20:30] @tsimonq2: smb..... 1 ewwwww [21:31] @wxl [ anyone have a cifs volume that they could try to reproduce bug 1790924?], I can see them [21:32] @HMollerCl following the same procedure of manually mounting in the terminal in 16.04? [21:32] no, wait, can't see it [21:33] but I'm not sure if they are ment to be seen [21:34] sorry i meant 18.04. they claim it works with 16.04 but not 18.04 [21:35] ooh i have a thought [21:36] I'm not sure I saw it in 16.04 [21:36] but, I normally mount it in fstab [21:36] if you go to preferences > layout and select network, do you see it? [21:37] (wonder how layour is tranlated to spanish) [21:37] uhhhhhhhh [21:37] diseño? [21:37] @wxl What else do you see in layout? [21:39] @HMollerCl https://share.riseup.net/#KqHmnxSboJZvTU0E2IyKWg [21:39] that's 18.04/bionic btw [21:41] aaaaa, ok, Prefrences from pcmanfm [21:42] nope, don't see it [21:42] harumph [21:42] I don't see it in pcmanfm, I always created a "favorite" for them [21:43] could you leave a comment on that bug? i think if you two put your heads together you could probably get to the bottom of this. i don't have a volume really to test [21:43] ok [21:44] My thoghts is that they might be a flag or something, otherwise your swap partition (if you have) woul also appear there [21:45] i have a share at work but i think i have to do some vm networking magic to get it to behave right with it [22:28] @TheWendyPower Do you have any experience with QML (or the willingness to learn the basics)? [22:28] Bug 1790887. [22:28] Bug 1790887. [22:28] Bug 1790887 in Lubuntu Artwork "SDDM power icons off screen" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1790887 [22:28] bah [22:28] wth [22:28] ikr [22:28] Anyway. [22:29] This is an SDDM theme: https://phab.lubuntu.me/source/lubuntu-artwork/browse/ubuntu%252Fcosmic/src/usr/share/sddm/themes/lubuntu/ [22:29] (SDDM being the login manager) [22:30] These live in sddm-theme-lubuntu and are installed to sddm-theme-lubuntu [22:30] grr [22:30] uhh bad Telegram is bad [22:30] This: /usr/share/sddm/themes/lubuntu/metadata.desktop [23:01] @tsimonq2 [@TheWendyPower Do you have any experience with QML (or the willingness to learn …], I have no experience, but I am willing to learn. [23:02] @TheWendyPower [I have no experience, but I am willing to learn.], Give it a shot :) [23:03] Maybe play with the values of `/usr/share/sddm/themes/lubuntu/main.qml` in a VM? [23:03] (i.e. log in, modify something, and log out again) [23:06] @tsimonq2 [Give it a shot :)], Sounds good! I just got a small SSD just for this kind of stuff. I'll get Lubuntu loaded up on it. [23:06] Awesome ;) [23:10] @TheWendyPower feel free to ping either one of us if you need help with that. i don't know what your level of experience is with the likes of virtualization and what have you.. [23:10] speaking of which i think i'm going to try to figure out x in a container [23:10] oh and @tsimonq2 i started working on trojita [23:10] Sweeeeeeet [23:11] How far you get? [23:11] well, i've compiled it, which is to say i've got the build-depends figured out [23:11] there's some really skeleton packaging that's got a bunch of depends in it that i need to double check are actually necessary [23:11] i've got most of control otherwise sorted out [23:12] You might want to just package the upstream snapshot [23:12] Plus, I'll warn you now: the thing that sucks the most about new packages from scratch is the copyright review. [23:12] You need to look at every. single. file. and note every. single. author as well as license in the debian/copyright file. [23:13] isn't there a tool to help with that? [23:13] btw http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/jkt-gentoo:/trojita/xUbuntu_16.04/ [23:13] There's licensecheck but it's super spotty and doesn't show authors iirc. [23:13] Otherwise you still need a manual review. [23:13] It's a waste of freaking time. [23:13] ok well c'est la vie [23:13] the big issue will be getting the technical aspects done [23:13] brb boba run [23:13] boba? XD [23:14] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bubble_tea [23:14] ooh [23:14] cool [23:15] wxl: Also don't forget to use Git. [23:17] wxl: I just created https://phab.lubuntu.me/source/trojita/ for you. [23:17] Make sure to point Vcs-* et. al at it. [23:30] ah i was using upstream's but that makes more sense