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tomreyngbellinoz: i don't see any, but you'll have to /want to reinstall to do FDE.00:02
katamogbellinoz your biggest hiccups w/ FDE is going to boil down to your Proprietary KMS Graphics modules and whether they break. Personally outside of that I've seen little issue. Curious for nosferatuman 's opinion00:02
gbellinozkatamo: That's interesting... so the modules which want to load immediately, before the OS has a chance to ask for the decrypt password?00:03
nosferatumanthats exactly it00:03
katamogbellinoz it *shouldnt* be an issue and usually isnt, but as professional support thats where I see the issues arise *if* they do00:03
katamoits always been correctable IMO but patience is not always readily available when issues come up00:04
tomreynyou can buy intel or amd gpu's if you want things to work out of the box00:04
* katamo personally uses dmcrypt due to default ubuntu installer support00:05
katamotomreyn +100:05
gbellinozI guess my intent is to simplify my setup.  Using encfs results in dirs that shouldn't be backed up, etc.00:05
nosferatumanit is more simple00:07
tomreynhere's a way to shoot yourself in the foot in case you don't want to reinstall: https://github.com/johndoe31415/luksipc00:09
katamotomreyn or https://gitlab.com/cryptsetup/cryptsetup/blob/master/man/cryptsetup-reencrypt.8 ???00:13
tomreynactually cryptsetup-reencrypt is the better option now,00:13
tomreynright00:13
tomreyni only learnt about it now ;)00:13
katamoyep yep00:14
nacctexla: i'm sorry, i don't follow that last comment00:14
bonhoefferi’ve got python troubles — is there a way to re-install python to the original image?00:15
naccbonhoeffer: welcome back; you don't need python, you need python3.6, afaict? What did you to your system to get into that state?00:16
kk4ewtbonhoeffer,  like reinstall00:16
naccbonhoeffer: what version of ubuntu, etc. as well00:16
bonhoeffernacc: i’ll take any python — 18.04 — i had three pythons installed so i tried to remove all of them to include deleting their directories00:17
naccbonhoeffer: ... what? you should python and python300:17
naccbonhoeffer: did you install some other python from source?00:17
bonhoefferi still havce /usr/bin/python00:17
bonhoefferI don’t remember — this was a shared server00:17
naccbonhoeffer: ok, so let's be specific. python is both a language and specific interpreter (for python2)00:17
naccbonhoeffer: so you had 3 python2 interpreters?00:17
bonhoeffersorry — I had python3.5 python 3.6 and python3.700:18
naccbonhoeffer: on 18.04?00:18
naccbonhoeffer: neither 3.5 nor 3.7 are official00:18
bonhoeffer18.04.100:18
naccbonhoeffer: where did you get those versions from?00:19
bonhoefferat the risk of being banned forever — https://gist.github.com/tbbooher/95d9ff23ce1fa771b4584198cbb2a87a00:19
bonhoefferat the bottom shows what i did00:19
bonhoeffer<— yes, terrible00:19
bonhoefferi should know better00:19
naccbonhoeffer: you are probably going to need to reinstall your system at some point00:20
naccyou force removed basically random system paths00:20
bonhoefferi was going to remove all that i did before and try to set up python fresh00:20
bonhoefferyeah00:20
bonhoeffersince I know what i removed, I could re-install from another image enough to get apt working again00:21
naccbonhoeffer: also, your last comment has not output00:21
tomreynwhy isn't resintalling a good option?00:21
naccbonhoeffer: so it's basically not helpful to anyone trying to help00:21
naccbonhoeffer: and yes, i'd recommend reinstalling00:21
gbellinoztomreyn: katamo good tips, thanks.  Off to go do some reading.00:21
texlanacc, After install Ubuntu 18.04 I went to Ubuntu ask and got info on how to activate numlockx at login..It is accept numbers from the numlock pad to login but after that I have to use numbers from the top of the keyboard as the numlock pad is dead If I just enter xev and press a nuumber from the numlock pad it only spaces the number00:22
gbellinoz^ katamo :00:22
gbellinoz^ katamo:  dammit00:22
katamogbellinoz on the numlock issue, what model device are you working on? (sry if i missed that detail)00:23
gbellinozkatamo: wasn't me00:23
* katamo facepalm00:24
texlakatamo, Ubuntu 18.0400:24
bonhoeffernacc: ok00:24
nosferatumanwhat kind of keyboard00:24
nacctexla: if you remove numlockx, does it work again00:24
katamotexla device type/make/model?00:24
gbellinozWow cryptsetup-reencrypt man page scares me with its bizarre example: https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/nSbVkTol/00:25
nacctexla: are you by any chance changing keyboard layouts?00:25
texlakatamo, system  kudo pro laptop00:25
nosferatumanprobably a pci device?00:26
texlanacc, The only layout I have found are in my Kubuntu install00:27
nacctexla: that's not exactly what i'm asked. Have you changed the keyboard layout at all?00:27
nacctexla: read comment 19 at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/124766800:28
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1247668 in xorg-server (Ubuntu) "NumLock turned off on layout switch" [High,Confirmed]00:28
spookyanyone here use gnome jessie but my screen (after reboot) has suddenly become fuzzy. anyone know why? how to fix?00:29
texlanacc, The only set I have found is listed as unchanged I left that way00:29
tomreynspooky: what's "gnome jessie"?00:29
nosferatumanmaybe debian jessie?00:30
nosferatumanwith gnome?00:30
nacctexla: i see00:30
spookyyes i think so. i thought it was part of ubuntu (sorry)00:30
spookyanyone screen is fuzzy always and reboot only makes it worse. checked all wires and nothing is lose00:30
spookyany ideas?00:30
naccspooky: you are using debian00:31
tomreyn!debian | spooky00:31
ubottuspooky: Ubuntu and Debian are closely related. Ubuntu builds on the foundations of Debian architecture and infrastructure, with a different community and release process. See https://www.ubuntu.com/about/about-ubuntu/ubuntu-and-debian - !Repositories meant for Debian should NOT be used on Ubuntu!00:31
naccspooky: please ask debian support00:31
spookyokay will do00:31
nacctexla: specifically in that, it should help indicate if you are using xev correctly, etc.00:31
nacctexla: what did you mean before about 'spaces the number'?00:32
texlanacc, When a number is hit it move just as if you hit the space bar00:40
bonhoefferis there a way to see when i typed a commmand in history00:43
tomreynbonhoeffer: i'll answer this once you answered my earlier question: why isn't reinstalling a good option?00:45
bonhoefferit is00:45
bonhoefferi’m working that00:46
tomreynyour answer is: not by default, no.00:46
bonhoefferok00:46
tomreynif you're wondering abotu when you installed or removed  which packages, though, there are timestamped logs for this at /var/log/apt00:47
TheBlokeIs there a way I can find out the compilation options used for a given Ubuntu package/library?  Specifically I'd like to know the ./configure options used to build ncurses (package ncurses-bin)00:47
nosferatumandoes packages.ubuntu.com include that info? I dont know00:50
TheBlokeI can't see it00:50
lotuspsychjeTheBloke: we advice to use the packages of the official ubuntu repos, instead of compiling00:51
rfmTheBloke, I don't actually know, but the first thing I would do is get the source package and look in the debian/rules build script...00:51
TheBlokerfm: thanks I'm trying that now. I  thought it might all be in a source code repository or something.  I'll check the source package00:53
TheBlokelotuspsychje: yeah this isn't for overwriting packages on Ubuntu itself00:53
lotuspsychjeTheBloke: whats your real endgoal exactly?00:55
TheBlokeFixing an ncurses terminal display problem on Solaris :)  On a program that works fine on Linux, compiles fine on Solaris, but the terminal display is messed up when displaying UTF-8 widechars.   Both with the provided NCurses 6.0 in Solaris, and my own compiled NCurses 6.1.   It's a long shot, but I'm checking how ncurses is compiled on Ubuntu (where I know the given programme works), just to see if it needs some special ./configure option.00:56
lotuspsychjeTheBloke: this is ubuntu support here mate00:57
TheBlokeAnd I asked an Ubuntu-related question, surely?00:57
tomreynit's maybe more suitable in #ubuntu-devel00:57
tomreynhave a look at https://git.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ncurses/tree/?h=applied/ubuntu/bionic-updates00:57
tomreynbuild log is at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ncurses/6.1-1ubuntu1.18.04/+build/14932384/+files/buildlog_ubuntu-bionic-amd64.ncurses_6.1-1ubuntu1.18.04_BUILDING.txt.gz00:58
ubottuLaunchpad bug 6 in Launchpad itself ""next 10 entries" at bottom of page" [Medium,Invalid]00:58
TheBlokeawesome tomreyn, thanks.  That's exactly what I was hoping for.00:59
tomreynwelcome00:59
bonhoeffertomreyn: thanks for the logging info01:01
kaddihi, is there a PPA for kernel 4.18 for 18.04?01:08
kaddi(or higher)01:08
katamokaddi no, it has to be installed manually. otherwise the latest kernel you can get is from the hwe-edge package01:08
* katamo hasnt considered 3rd party for safety reasons01:09
lotuspsychje!mainline | kaddi01:10
ubottukaddi: The kernel team supply continuous mainline kernel builds which can be useful for tracking down issues or testing recent changes in the Linux kernel. More information is available at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds01:10
tomreynthere is no HWE stack for 18.04, yet, so it'll be either mainline or some ppa01:12
kaddihow buggy is the mainline going to be? I'm not looking to fix one issue by creating 5 new ones ;)01:13
tomreynnot buggier than a random ppa01:13
tomreynusually they work fine01:13
kaddiok, that's good to know. :)01:14
lotuspsychjekaddi: is there a reason specific you are going to install a higher kernel?01:14
katamotomreyn good point, i didnt look close enough at the question :/ and ditto. What is use case kaddi ?01:14
kaddiyeah, I have a X1 and sleep doesn't work. Apparently it's only supported with 4.18rc2 or newer01:14
kaddilenovo x1 that is01:15
lotuspsychjekaddi: can you define 'doesnt work' please01:15
kaddiit just doesn't go to sleep at all. This (according to my google research) is due to the fact that lenovo switched from supplying the option to do s3 sleep to the new 'active sleep' (for windows) s0i301:16
kaddithat sleep mode is not recognized correctly in current kernels01:16
lotuspsychjekaddi: have you tried acpi options?01:16
kaddiunfortunately also those sleep mode are apparently exclusive so that lenovo can't (or won't) supply a bios that offers both01:16
kaddilotuspsychje: I had a look at some of the solutions offered online, but mostly the solutions offered seemed to be for arch and they don't compile/work on my install01:17
kaddiIf you have instructions for ubuntu, I'd be happy to try them01:17
kaddiI'm really just trying to get sleep to work01:17
lotuspsychjekaddi: here the basic bootoptions: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions01:18
lotuspsychjekaddi: also interesting for us to debug, is your syslog output at the time of your hibernate01:19
ForDummiesI'm having a problem with ubuntu-bug where Launchpad fails with "something went wrong" right after saysing it's going to log me in.  Am I the only one?01:19
lotuspsychjeForDummies: do you have a launchpad account?01:20
texlalc01:21
ForDummiesI think so.  I've looked at bugs many times.01:21
tomreynhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/175610501:21
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1756105 in linux (Ubuntu) "X1 Carbon 6th gen S0i3 sleep broken" [Medium,Confirmed]01:21
tomreynkaddi: ^01:21
lotuspsychjeForDummies: wich package did you bug to?01:21
ForDummiesjust for testing (because I'm on a different machine) I named vim-gnome01:22
kadditomreyn: just to make sure I understand: I run the command now and then go to sleep? Or put it to sleep, wake it and then run the comand?01:22
ForDummieslotuspsychje originally it was vim-nox.01:23
lotuspsychjeForDummies: ubuntu-bug vim-gnome should work allright yeah01:23
tomreynkaddi: which command do you mean? the apport-collect one? this is just for the person who opened the bug report. you are welcome to put it to sleep, wake it up and then run: ubuntu-bug linux01:23
ForDummiesIlotuspsychje I've actually tracked down the actual problem (it was my aliases), but now I'm wondering what's up with ubuntu-bug01:23
lotuspsychjeForDummies: so its launchpad giving you that error after bug trying to report?01:23
tomreynkaddi: the reason i pointed you to this bug report is that the firth comment disucsses a partial workaround.01:24
ForDummieslotuspsychje yes, "Sorry, something went wrong in Launchpad."01:24
kadditomreyn: I'll try that now :) Thanks.01:24
kaddiCould you tell me how to do this: "please pass `acpi.ec_no_wakeup=1` on the Linux command line to reduce the power consumption." Do I need to launch grub recovery for that?01:25
ForDummieslotuspsychje it hasn't even gotten to asking what went wrong, or collected data on the system.01:25
kaddiand then type it in manually?01:25
lotuspsychjeForDummies: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-software/+bug/172431601:25
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1724316 in gnome-software (Ubuntu) ""Sorry, something went wrong cannot authenticate to snap store ..." without any way to fix" [High,In progress]01:25
lotuspsychjekaddi: read that bootoptions url, it describes howto01:25
kaddilotuspsychje: I read it, I run kubuntu so I don't have boot repair.. andthe manual config links to grub2 tutorial which then makes no reference of boot options01:26
ForDummieslotuspsychje I just logged into Launchpad, and got past the spot where ubuntu bug reported the problem.01:27
ForDummiesLotuspsychje what do I do with this.  I'm pretty sure ubuntu-bug ubuntu-bug is going to have the same problem.01:28
lotuspsychjeForDummies: yes, login to launchpad first, then ubuntu-bug after is a nice procedure01:29
ForDummieslotuspsychje: I'll try it.01:29
tomreynkaddi: this is the right how-to for temporarily booting with different / additional linux options  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Troubleshooting#Editing_the_GRUB_2_Menu_During_Boot01:29
lotuspsychjeForDummies: i suspect this has nothing to do with ubuntu-bug, but launchpad login problem01:29
kaddithanks @tomreyn :)01:30
bonhoefferhey — nacc  — i restored to a day ago — how do i responsibly remove my python 3.701:31
tomreynkaddi: what you'd need to do is to add the option you quoted to the 'linux' line, after "quiet" and "splash"01:31
ForDummieslotuspsychje I logged in on Chrome (where Launchpad was trying to log in), and tried "ubuntu-bug apport" but got exactly the same problem.01:32
lotuspsychjeForDummies: is apport the package you are trying to bug?01:33
lotuspsychjeForDummies: try to change your default browser to firefox, and try there as a test?01:33
kaddithanks @tomreyn @lotuspsychje I'll put the laptop to 'sleep' and 'wake' it. Then I'll run ubuntu-bug linux. Then I'll reboot and try to modify the kernel options.. then I'll be back.. Could take a while ;)01:34
lotuspsychjekaddi: perhaps use the same bug, tomreyn has found for you?01:34
lotuspsychjekaddi: this avoids double bugs01:34
ForDummieslotuspsychje Oops.  I have too many windows up.  Launchpad was using chrome, and when I tried to log in there, it did not work.  It's starting to look like a launchpad/chrome problem.01:34
ForDummieslotuspsychje, no the error message is different01:35
ForDummieslotuspsychje I may be able to work around this by changing my default browser to firefox, then maybe launchpad will let me report a bug.01:36
lotuspsychjeForDummies: yes try a different browser, but i suspect its your launchpad account going faulty01:36
tomreynkaddi: if you instead (or additionally) want to try a mainline kernel, you can download, make executable and run this script: wget https://raw.githubusercontent.com/tomreyn/scripts/master/wget_kernel_mainline.sh; chmod +x wget_kernel_mainline.sh; ./wget_kernel_mainline.sh v4.18.501:37
tomreynlotuspsychje: it'd clutter log files, a duplicate is actually better there IMO01:37
tomreynwe can always link duplicate bug reports to one another01:38
ForDummieslotuspsychje I can log into Launchpad on Firefox but on on Chrome.  I'll try to get that reported .  Thanks for getting me to look at this a bit more carefully.  Now I have action I can take.....  later tonight problably.  Thanks.01:38
lotuspsychjetomreyn: allrighty01:41
kaddiis there a chance I could get my nick myrti back? I was careless and let it expire a year ago. Someone called myrtti registered it, but he's never actually used it01:56
kaddihe hasn't been online in a while either01:56
kaddiand sorry01:57
kaddithat's the completley wrong channel01:57
kaddiXD01:57
kaddiwhat I meant ot say is: I've added the command to grub, but I'm not sure how to tell if it worked?01:59
kaddiand I've added the dbeug logs here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/179075301:59
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1790753 in linux (Ubuntu) "X1 yoga 3rd generation doesn't go to sleep" [Undecided,New]01:59
eddievonscraperwhy does sudo apt install nvidia-375 instead install 384.130 ? how can i pick my choice of driver version02:00
lotuspsychjeeddievonscraper: ubuntu-drivers list to see wich drivers are available for your system02:02
eddievonscraperthose are the same 3 that are available in the 'additional drivers' tab02:04
lotuspsychjeeddievonscraper: correct, so wich 3 are listed?02:06
eddievonscraper304 340 38402:06
eddievonscraperi used to have a newer driver than 340, but updating to 384 broke something.  i was hoping to go back 1 version, not all way back to 34002:06
lotuspsychjeeddievonscraper: wich graphics card chipset do you have?02:07
eddievonscrapergtx560ti02:07
lotuspsychjeeddievonscraper: ok, its good to tryout the driver that works best for your system02:08
lotuspsychjeeddievonscraper: to uninstall: sudo apt purge nvidia* to fallback to nouveau02:08
lotuspsychjeeddievonscraper: then try again the driver you want to test02:09
eddievonscraperwell it was in between 340 and 384, but i cant seem to find/install it02:09
lotuspsychjeeddievonscraper: drivers do not update the same as package, you need to test them individually02:10
lotuspsychjeeddievonscraper: feel free to share us a hastebin of the output, when installing a driver02:10
Bashing-omeddievonscraper: Nvidia recommends the 390 version driver for that card: https://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx?lang=en-us .02:13
lotuspsychjeBashing-om: weird ubuntu does not suggest it right?02:15
eddievonscraper16.04 only offers upto 384 in additional drivers tab02:17
Bashing-omlotuspsychje: I would expect that it would ( sudo ubuntu-drivers list ) . //. Not sure what nvidia is doing now-a-days. do ' apt list nvidia-375 ' . then see: apt list nvidia-driver-390 . 18.04 nvidia driver loads a ton more packages now also .02:19
eddievonscraper18.04 with 390 and system hangs after reboot.  16.04 with 384 powermizer stuck on lowest level 50mhz graphics clock.  16.04 with 340 or 304 works fine.  maybe theres someting wrong with my video card?02:20
Bashing-om!info nvidia-driver-390 xenial02:20
ubottuPackage nvidia-driver-390 does not exist in xenial02:20
eddievonscraperi have a gtx NON TI that works fine with 384 and 390 so idk02:21
eddievonscrapergtx 56002:21
Bashing-omeddievonscraper: lemme verify that the 390 driver for xenial is in our trusted PPA .02:22
eddievonscraperim going to swap the 2 cards and see what happens02:22
eddievonscraperill post back soon02:22
Bashing-omeddievonscraper: Yeah the 390 driver is there : https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa .02:24
eddievonscraperok ill try it thx bashin02:26
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eddievonscraperbashing-om: that ppa 390.87 seems to work fine with 16.0404:03
eddievonscraperwonder why 390 hangs my system with 18.0404:04
Speeder39Hello04:08
Speeder39I am new to ubuntu04:09
Aaronand?04:09
Bashing-omeddievonscraper: I run thge nouveau driver in 18.04 - not nuch I can check. Any hints in ' cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log ; cat /var/log/gpu-manager.log ' ?04:09
cim209Speeder39, welcome to the club04:09
Speeder39Thankd04:09
Speeder39I installed on older computer i7 with 6gb ram04:10
cim209i installed ubuntu mate on this old 2007 imac04:11
hittopI just used wubi to install Ubuntu 18.04 on my Surface Book that uses UEFI. During the installation, it said grub failed to installed. Then after I restart, I can no longer log back into Windows. I'm now stuck with the grub console.04:11
Speeder39:(04:11
hittopI've done some readings and tried to boot-repair but without much hope. Here's the link on the report, I hope some expert can shed some lights.04:11
hittophttp://paste.ubuntu.com/p/MBgNn5YZSS/04:11
Speeder39I instp04:11
Speeder39Installed on Toshiba qosimo 18inch laptio04:12
Speeder3918 inch laptop wiping windows 704:12
Speeder39are you guys in the usa?04:13
cim209i am04:13
naccbonhoeffer: where did it come from?04:14
naccbonhoeffer: the python 3.7, that is?04:15
eddievonscraperbashing-om: im going to try that ppa with 1804. barring that, ill check the log you suggested, thanks04:16
Bashing-omeddievonscraper: :) .. we try to help .04:17
madLyfepossible to run the dban gui in terminal?04:19
madLyfeit looks like this guy is running it in a terminal: https://askubuntu.com/questions/749974/gui-tool-to-securely-overwrite-whole-hard-drive if you scroll down a bit on the page there is a screenshot of it.04:20
naccmadLyfe: the two screenshots are clearly cited as GDiskDump and nwipe.04:30
madLyfeya nwipe is what i mean04:30
naccmadLyfe: ... nwipe is a terminal application04:31
madLyfei installed it just fine but just running nwipe i just get a return prompt. man/help doesnt say anything like that.04:31
madLyfeto get the nwipe gui running in terminal.04:31
naccmadLyfe: did you run it with sudo?04:32
naccmadLyfe: it needs to be run as root04:32
naccmadLyfe: doing so on 18.04 here shows the menu properly.04:32
madLyfeFML. im sorry.04:33
naccmadLyfe: it's ok, i got a bunch of errors when running it as a regular user about permissions04:33
quiltbitchUbuntu 18.04 keeps crashing on start up :/04:37
quiltbitchI can only boot it up after going on safe-mode04:37
quiltbitchand keep hitting resume, resume04:37
quiltbitchadvice? :/04:37
eddievonscraperbashing-om: that ppa you showed me works great 390 and 18.04 thanks again04:43
guiverc_dquiltbitch, i don't know what you mean by 'safe' mode, can't find anything online with regards safe mode - and can't picture the 'resume' (online serach only pulls up post-suspend) - do you mean recovery mode? and does resume relate to a suspended machine and trouble waking it?, is it a desktop, server?04:49
naccguiverc_d: i believe you can boot into 'recovery' mode and then exit it from it to resume booting.04:50
naccguiverc_d: that's what i'd guess quiltbitch meant.04:50
guiverc_dthanks nacc, I don't use recovery mode very often thankfully :)04:51
naccguiverc_d: yep :)04:51
naccquiltbitch: can you define 'crash'?04:51
naccquiltbitch: as in, what exactly happens04:51
quiltbitchnacc, when ubuntu boots up has these dots04:52
quiltbitchwell they freeze04:52
quiltbitchand never continue04:53
quiltbitchsometimes the screen never turns on either during boot up04:53
quiltbitchthis is usually after I shut down during the first failed boot up04:53
naccquiltbitch: someone earlier maybe suggested booting without quiet and splash, so you get as much output as possible?04:53
naccquiltbitch: i think that was for you, at least, did you try something like that?04:53
quiltbitchno, I have to modify grub?04:54
naccyeah, from the menu, hit 'e' on the entry, and remove the 'quiet' and 'splash' bits on the linux line04:55
naccquiltbitch: i need to step away, sorry; hopefully someone else can help04:55
quiltbitchthanks!04:55
guiverc_dI'd also suggest trying ' nomodeset ' on that line on a try to see if you get a gui.. but first I'd do as nacc was suggesting, remove 'quiet splash' (quiet hides messages, splash shows the graphic instead of messages - you have a problem so you want to see the messages - why you remove them)  hit <F10> to have it boot. change affects that boot only04:56
guiverc_dfyi: first I'd try without adding the nomodeset  (to get clues on what is the problem, you'd be expecting it to stop as before, but you'll see the last thing that worked, and maybe the thing it was trying to do where it gets stuck..04:57
quiltbitchremoved from GRUB the quiet and splash and now the screen remains black05:02
quiltbitchhelp?05:03
guiverc_dquiltbitch, what ubuntu are you using?05:04
quiltbitch18.0405:04
guiverc_dis it a clean install? or did you do something (add/change things) to cause this quiltbitch ?05:05
quiltbitchclean install05:06
quiltbitchlaptop g5 558705:06
CyberHackerquiltbitch, when you temove quiet and splash add 'nomodeset' like guiverc_d suggest05:06
quiltbitchI didn't add anything05:06
quiltbitchI just removed them05:06
guiverc_dg5 cpu? or is that part of the mode... I'd also try the ' nomodeset ' (with quiet & splash removed as well) next .. - I didn't expect 'black' only..05:07
quiltbitchi505:07
guiverc_ds/mode/model/05:07
quiltbitchguiverc_d are the two spaces after ro important?05:08
quiltbitchit says can't find command esetparams with nomodset05:09
guiverc_dquiltbitch, one space or many is okay, i use extra spaces just to stress a space..05:09
quiltbitchnvm I hit e one too many times. Now I tried to boot up again with nomodeset and again black screen05:11
quiltbitchnvm it booted up, after flashing the screen with the command line05:11
guiverc_dquiltbitch, you have video module (driver) issues i'm betting, `sudo lshw -C video` will list hardware (video class) where you could look online for help with your hardware, or ask here (I'm ill-equipped to help sorry with video), but if pastebin your hardware (results for prior command) I can do a search for you... the `nomodeset` is a temporary 'fix' & not ideal..05:21
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GoopI want to upload music from my Ubuntu desktop to my iPhone, so I can play it using Apple's native song player. How would I go about doing that?06:08
AtuMGoop, as far as i know, you need to use apple's cloud services for that..06:09
hateball!iphone | Goop06:18
ubottuGoop: For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto - For the iPhone and the iPod Touch, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone - See !RockBox for information on liberating your iPod06:18
hateballno idea how up to date that is, I have no apple devices06:18
lotus|NUCGoop: clementine has also nice support for sync to apple devices06:20
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CoolerZi have a weird situation happening where an application is reporting that it can't find ANDROID_HOME07:23
CoolerZeven though it is set07:23
CoolerZ$ echo $ANDROID_HOME07:24
CoolerZ /home/user/Android/Sdk07:24
CoolerZAndroid Studio project detected07:24
CoolerZ(node:2407) UnhandledPromiseRejectionWarning: CordovaError: Failed to find 'ANDROID_HOME' environment variable. Try setting it manually.07:24
CoolerZFailed to find 'android' command in your 'PATH'. Try update your 'PATH' to include path to valid SDK directory.07:24
CoolerZi have this line at the end of my .bashrc file07:26
CoolerZexport ANDROID_HOME="/home/user/Android/Sdk"07:26
CoolerZdo i need to set ANDROID_HOME in /etc/environment as well?07:26
CoolerZwhy is the app failing to detect the environment variable?07:27
nakulcg how and where I can ask if I want an official package in ubuntu bionic repo to be updated to the latest version?07:35
ducasse!sru | nakulcg07:36
ubottunakulcg: Stable Release Update information is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates07:36
ducassenakulcg: there needs to be good reasons for this to happen, though07:37
zetherooChrome seems to be starting on boot/login automatically and it always crashes when doing so. Where can I disable Chrome from automatically starting on boot/login?07:38
nakulcgThanks, I would like the jetty9 package on Ubuntu bionic to be updated, since it is on 9.2 (which was on an older java version) and that is a very old version, and 9.4.x are the latest which run on latest Java07:38
Aaronthen update it nakulcg07:40
Aaronand send it to the maintainer07:40
nakulcgThanks AAron07:41
CoolerZsomeone please help08:10
CoolerZdo applications use different set of environment variables compared to what you get when you do echo $ENVIRONMENT_VARIABLE  in the terminal?08:10
CoolerZbecause i can do echo $ANDROID_HOME and it is displayed08:11
CoolerZbut an app is not able to find it08:11
TJ-CoolerZ: yes, env-vars are per-shell. If that is set in the .bashrc and you've logged in since adding it, all shells/applications launched in the current session should see it08:12
CoolerZTJ-, right08:13
CoolerZbut for some reason its not doing that08:14
CoolerZTJ-, apparently it works after adding ANDROID_HOME to /etc/environment08:17
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texlaubuntu 18.04 ubuntu de during boot the numlock light and pad is active and the login screen works..then the numlock light blinks off and back on but the pad buttons are dead..Switch to cinnamon de and all button and lights work as expected08:39
hateballtexla: that's probably something you can set in gnome somewhere08:51
hateballin kde plasma you can specify if to turn on/off/untouched, I assume gnome has something similar in their keyboard settings08:52
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fishcookeris it possible to move the cursor if my laptop's touchpad is broken without adding extra peripheral?09:56
EriC^^fishcooker: xdotool09:56
EriC^^fishcooker: look into the accessibility options, there might be a keyboard based cursor movement09:57
EriC^^fishcooker: https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/mouse-mousekeys.html.en09:57
fishcookerdigging xdotool, thanks10:18
Triffid_Hunterfishcooker: I made a script that adds a virtual mouse via uinput - http://github.com/triffid/automash - if you want another route10:27
Triffid_Hunterbasically it turns buttonhold on spare buttons on my mouse into something like 2000 clicks per second10:28
fishcookernice pointer Eric xdotool works ... Triffid_Hunter: noted, just wonder if i can do fake movement using translation using vi style button movement10:33
fishcookermouseless mode ON10:34
fishcookeron gui session10:34
fishcookerTriffid_Hunter: http://github.com/triffid/automash cool10:41
MiaHello channel11:10
MiaI found this https://github.com/cspeterson/dotfiles/blob/master/.bin/instagif --- how shouldş I execute this?11:10
MiaAfter putting this into a file (instagif) I've chmod +x 'd the file11:10
Miabut when I run this IO get ": No such file or directory"11:11
MiaAm I missing an important point11:11
auronandaceMia: you'd need to ask the maintainer of that script11:12
Miaauronandace, I feel like I'm making a mistake at the base level11:12
MiaI was googling "how to make a file executable" a few minutes ago11:13
auronandaceMia: assuming you are in the same directory as the file you want to execute you just run it: ./nameofscript11:14
Miathat's what I do auronandace11:15
Miado I have to install anything before this? like, I've tried to modify the "bash" part of the file (the beginning)11:15
blackflowMia: did you install the prerequisites listed in the script? namely bc, ffmpeg and wget?11:15
MiaI get similar errors so maybe there's someting wrong with my bash thing11:15
MiaYes they're installed BlackDex11:16
Miablackflow, (sorry BlackDex )11:16
blackflowMia: run with -x (or add set -x below  set -e in the script) and look where exactly during the execution it throws the error11:17
Miaokay, doing it now11:17
Miasame error, nothing changes blackflow11:18
blackflowMia: then run it from bash directly   `bash instagif`   while being in the same directory with it11:19
Miawhen I echo "step one" before both (-e and -x) I still get the same error, nothing is echoed11:19
Miaokay11:20
blackflowand that's weird, that env invocation of bash should work11:20
Miawhen I run it with bash, it works noıw11:20
Mia*now11:20
MiaSo what's the problem here, I can ofc. execute with this bash but, why isn't it working11:20
blackflowMia: sounds like there's no bash in your env. which ubuntu is this?11:21
Mia14.0411:21
blackflowor /usr/bin/env is not there11:21
blackflowrun that from teh command line    /usr/bin/env bash       do you get a new prompt, no error?   exit should exit it back to where you were11:21
zetherooChrome seems to be starting on boot/login automatically and it always crashes when doing so. Where can I disable Chrome from automatically starting on boot/login?11:21
JimBuntuzetheroo, Depending on your version... In the Dash search, type startup, click on the 'Startup Applications' and uncheck Chrome, if it's present11:23
Miawhen I do /usr/bin/env bash nothing happens11:23
Miano errors, just waits for half second, thne everything's the same11:23
blackflowMia: yeah it started a new shell.   if you now type exit, you'll get the prompt, nothing else, which is actually BACK one level up.11:23
blackflowMia: ps auxf  should show you the tree of shells that occur11:24
blackflowor in other words, when you type `bash`  you get to a new prompt which is actually a shell spawned from your previous shell, it's just not immediately visible.  same thing happens with that env11:24
Miaah okay11:25
Miaso it works? I mean, env should be there in this case, right ?11:25
Miathen why isn't the #!/usr/bin/env bash working11:25
HelenahIs there an up-to-date guide for Ubuntu's version of tmux?11:26
blackflowat this point I have no idea. sounds weird that it works from command line but not when exec'd. unless something is seriously messed up with kernel's detection of shebangs.11:27
blackflowMia: ^^^11:27
Mia:/11:27
Miaokay, thanks11:27
MiaI'm not root, does this matter blackflow11:28
HelenahCome on guys, I've asked in 3 support channels now, and nobody knows the answer?11:28
blackflownope. but thinking about it now, it's possible there's a difference in PATH between login and noninteractive shell11:28
blackflowMia: ^^^11:29
MiaI don2t even know what a noninteractive shell is11:29
blackflowMia: in other words, difference in PATH set by   .bashrc and .profile11:29
BlackDexnp Mia ;)11:30
blackflowMia: when you login,  .profile is exec'd which in turn should source .bashrc   . and starting subshells sources only .bashrc as they're not login shells.11:30
MiaAh okay11:30
Miaso I'll start this as root and try11:31
Miaand see if this works11:31
blackflowMia: there's also .bash_login   and .bash_profile that could exist, to mess up things11:31
blackflowMia: of course, you can always change that shebang to #!/bin/bash directly11:31
Miaunder /home/username I have .bash_history and .bash_logout11:31
JimBunturun a `which bash` first, and ise that11:32
JimBuntuHelenah, I don't know how 'up to date' you are looking for, but there are a few good examples if you google with digitalocean as a keyword.11:33
BluesKajHi folks11:37
gbellinozThis is OT but perhaps someone can steer me.  When I change the nameservers for a domain at my ISP where I registered that domain, what happens next?12:02
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tomreyngbellinoz: if you !register you can join #ubuntu-offtopic and ask there.12:15
tomreyn!register | gbellinoz12:16
ubottugbellinoz: For information on registering your IRC nick, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration - For any further help, ask in #freenode.12:16
lotus|NUCHelenah: man tmux ?12:19
gloomyHey there12:25
gloomyI'm having trouble with brightness controls on a macbook pro12:25
gloomyThe brightness controls (f1/f2) worked fine out of the box12:26
lotus|NUCgloomy: your ubuntu version please?12:26
gloomyThen I installed an applet supposed to give me controls in the top bar12:26
gloomyUbuntu Budgie, latest version (bionic based)12:26
gloomyand the controls stopped working (both from the keyboard and from the applet)12:27
gloomyI removed the applet but it's still broken12:27
lotus|NUCgloomy: your ubuntu version please?12:27
gloomyUbuntu 18.04.1 LTS12:28
lotus|NUCgloomy: sorry ive skipped your line12:29
lotus|NUCgloomy: can you test this from gnome aswell as a test, ive installed 18.04 on a macbook recently, all worked perfect on my side12:30
gloomyTest what?12:31
lotus|NUCgloomy: ubuntu-desktop with gnome, lets say a liveusb12:31
gloomyIt also worked for me until I installed that applet12:31
lotus|NUCgloomy: oh, how did you install that applet and from where?12:31
gloomyFrom the budgie applet menu12:31
gloomyhttps://github.com/serdarsen/budgie-advanced-brightness-controller12:32
gloomySeems to be this package12:32
lotus|NUCgloomy: cant you undo what you installed?12:32
gloomyYes, but the brightness controls are still broken12:33
lotus|NUCgloomy: you could try find the settings from dconf-editor perhaps12:34
lotus|NUCgloomy: my guess would be, purge that git applet and reboot?12:34
gloomyHmm, doing xrandr --output DP-2 --brightness 0.112:35
gloomyworks12:35
gloomySo maybe it's just the keyboard shortcuts that got messed up12:36
gloomylotus|NUC: What is dconf-editor?12:36
XirAureliusHey Ben64 - I went and checked myself yesterday. You were correct about zero-writing a drive and I was wrong. Mea culpa.12:36
lotus|NUC!info dconf-tools | gloomy12:37
ubottugloomy: dconf-tools (source: d-conf): transitional dummy package. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.26.0-2ubuntu3 (bionic), package size 1 kB, installed size 19 kB12:37
lotus|NUCgloomy: its a GUI for overall system settings and more12:37
gloomynice, will play around a bit with that12:38
lotus|NUCgloomy: macbook works nicely with bionic doesnt it :p12:38
gloomyThe fans are spinning like crazy but other than that it's pretty smooth :)12:39
lotus|NUCgloomy: try laptop-mode-tools for that maybe?12:39
solsTiCehi. I have that bug that when I press alt+print screen, I am logout imediatly and then when I relogin, the screenshot is taken. the keybaord shortcut are the default. using wayland in 18.0412:57
blackflowsolsTiCe: heh. well, there's a reason why Wayland is not yet default.13:07
sliptteesHi guys. I have shared volume and mounted using cifs without problems. But in lubuntu 18.04 mount not appears in my Desktop like USB for example.  Lubuntu 16.04 this mount work ful13:17
norok2hi all, is there a way to put the ubuntu 18.04 iso into a USB stick using the old method?13:21
norok2the hybrid iso won't work on my old asus eee pc 70013:21
norok2and I screwed it up bit when believing I could just dist-upgrade from 14.0413:22
norok2I am left with no disk space13:22
norok2and a hybrid system13:22
blackflownorok2: isn't that 32-bit cpu? if so, that's your problem, not the hybrid ISO13:23
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norok2@blackflow I thought this iso is 32-bit http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/18.04/release/lubuntu-18.04.1-desktop-i386.iso13:26
solsTiCeblackflow: was working fine for some time though13:28
blackflowsolsTiCe: could be, Wayland and its compositors are still under heavy development and not ready for prime time yet.13:29
blackflownorok2: ah lubuntu, you didn't mention this in your original question.13:30
deafboyI have trouble installing some php7.2 packages on 18.04. Tried to switch to a different mirror and enabling proposed, but the dependencies are still broken.13:34
deafboyphp7.2-intl : Depends: php7.2-common (= 7.2.3-1ubuntu1) but 7.2.7-0ubuntu0.18.04.2 is to be installed13:34
deafboyphp7.2-mbstring : Depends: php7.2-common (= 7.2.3-1ubuntu1) but 7.2.7-0ubuntu0.18.04.2 is to be installed13:34
deafboyphp7.2-zip : Depends: php7.2-common (= 7.2.3-1ubuntu1) but 7.2.7-0ubuntu0.18.04.2 is to be installed13:34
deafboyIs there some place other then this channel to report it?13:34
rootkeaMay I know how do I reset all the startup services? `systemctl preset-all` says "Failed to preset all units: Cannot assign requested address"13:37
lotus|NUCdeafboy: did you add external ppa's of any kind to your system?13:54
deafboyNo external PPAs13:54
KivaanCan anyone help? While trying to install Ubuntu 18.04.1 from a bootable USB, I get the error 'uncompression error System halted'.13:54
deafboythey're supposed to be in universe repo13:54
lotus|NUCdeafboy: why did you enable proposed?13:54
Kivaani am on windows 7. i have 4 gb of ram.13:54
lotus|NUC!usb | Kivaan13:55
ubottuKivaan: For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent13:55
deafboylotus|NUC: to see if the newer packages are there13:55
deafboylotus|NUC: It seems that the required version is in the univers repo after all (according to packages.ubuntu.com), I just can't install it for some reason13:56
Kivaanlotus|NUC: I couldn't find anything there about the error i am facing.13:56
lotus|NUCdeafboy: hastebin us the output of: sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade please13:57
lotus|NUCKivaan: wich tool did you use to make the usb?13:58
Kivaanlotus|NUC: rufus 3.113:58
deafboylotus|NUC: https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/8c5DvP7FHp/13:58
lotus|NUCKivaan: try universal usb installer, if that doesnt work, try another usb stick please13:59
lotus|NUCdeafboy: that looks good right14:00
lotus|NUCdeafboy: now same pastebin for: sudo apt install php7.214:00
Kivaanok14:00
deafboylotus|NUC: https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/3KSTS8VZVT/14:02
lotus|NUCdeafboy: worked?14:03
deafboythat was just missing metapackage (i've tried to downgrade and forgot to install it back). I'm still unable to install the required packages from multiverse https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/VzfFPJZjvQ/14:04
lotus|NUCdeafboy: try installing php7.2-common first14:06
deafboylotus|NUC: php7.2-common is already the newest version (7.2.7-0ubuntu0.18.04.2).14:07
lotus|NUCdeafboy: hmm not sure if thats due to proposed or not14:08
lotus|NUCdeafboy: try a sudo apt autoremove14:09
lotus|NUCdeafboy: you could also try disable proposed, sudo apt update again and try again to install your needed packages14:10
deafboylotus|NUC: autoremove didn't find anything to remove and proposed is already disabled14:12
pragmaticenigmadeafboy: Run "sudo apt clean all && sudo apt autoclean && sudo apt update14:12
deafboypragmaticenigma: clean and autoclena didn't help either14:14
deafboythis really looks like a universe repo problem to me https://imgur.com/a/fM4M6yC (screenshot from aptitude)14:15
deafboybut thanks for your help lotus|NUC, pragmaticenigma14:15
deafboyI'll try a different machine with 18.04, give me a sec...14:16
pragmaticenigmadeafboy: Most of that was to make sure that removing proposed was cleared from the cache in apt14:16
pragmaticenigmadeafboy: I attempted an install of php7.2-intl on my machine, and it didn't have any issues. Is there a different message than what you posted earlier when proposed is not enabled and you attempt to install?14:17
deafboyI've enabled proposed as an attempt to resolve the dependency problem in the first place14:18
deafboyI found the error14:24
deafboyIf I have universe enabled for bionic repo, I also need to enable it for bionic-updates repo14:25
pragmaticenigmaah14:26
sliptteesI have shared volume and mounted using cifs without problems. But in lubuntu 18.04 mount not appears in my Desktop like USB for example.  Lubuntu 16.04 this mount work ful14:26
deafboyand bionic-security as well I guess14:26
pragmaticenigmadeafboy:  that would make sense. All updates live in the *-updates until Ubuntu decides to roll them up into a release, which is when the move them into the main repo (also when a point release is made)14:27
pragmaticenigmaslipttees: How is the remote share mounted? In your fstab?14:28
sliptteespragmaticenigma: No. use pam_mount14:30
pragmaticenigmaslipttees: I'm not too familiar with that method, but I assume it's similar to having a mount listed in fstab. In either case, when you plug a USB drive in, the script that runs, tells the Desktop environment about the mount. With system configured mounts (fstab, possibly pam_mount) there is nothing that tells the DE to add the mount as a shortcut.14:32
sliptteespragmaticenigma: Lubuntu 16.04 work! Upgrade 18.04 same config doesn't work :-(14:33
sliptteespragmaticenigma: pcmanfm have "show connected volumes on the Desktop"14:34
qwebirc10809Hi everyone, I'm using Ubuntu 18.04 and it can not detect a sennheiser momentum m2 via bluetooth, I have tried solutions from almost every post related to it, and still can not pair and play, I beg you for advice.14:34
pragmaticenigmaslipttees: There appears to be a couple bugs filed that highlight the same issue you are experiencing. They both are labeled as fixed, but they are upstream from Ubuntu. Ubuntu Devs will bring those down eventually, but it is unknown when.14:35
Kivaanlotus|NUC: nope, no luck.14:35
sliptteespragmaticenigma: shared work. Only desktop shortcut no14:42
lenny_lemondoes anybody using alfa network usb adapter? AWUS036NHA14:43
lenny_lemonthere is advice in box to uninstall previous driver before install for this usb adapter ...14:44
tomreynthis advice most likley refers to windows?14:45
lenny_lemonso can I ignore it? i was just wondering if I unplug adapter if driver will work with laptop ...14:46
quiltbitchmy ubuntu 18.04 crashes on my laptop g5. Removing quiet nosplash and adding nonmodeset on grub seems to just delay boot up but it eventually happens. Any advice?14:47
tomreynlenny_lemon: i think you can safely ignore this, unless it specifically refers to linux (and probably then, too).14:47
tomreynshould be USB ID: 0cf3:9271 (check 'lsusb')14:48
quiltbitch@Following up to that, when I say crashes I mean during boot up. It just freezes14:48
tomreynlenny_lemon: and the driver should be ath9k_htc14:48
tomreynChipset: Atheros AR9002U14:49
freeone3000Hi. I'm trying to bind an alternative console keymap. dumpkeys|loadkeys works, but I'd like it to be loaded by default without having to stick it in ~/.bash_profile. I've looked for a keymap file in /usr/share and /etc, and haven't found one. Where does Ubuntu stick the default console keymap?14:49
tomreynquiltbitch: what is a "g5"?14:50
quiltbitchdell g5* 558714:50
tomreynfreeone3000: /etc/default/console-setup14:52
quiltbitchtomreyn tbh with you I think its the nvidia graphics card and bad support for it on ubuntu. But again I know nothing about ubuntu14:52
tomreynquiltbitch: is this ubuntu 18.04 or 18.04.1? default (gnome 3) desktop?14:52
quiltbitchthe LTS release14:53
quiltbitch18.04.01 I believe14:54
tomreynquiltbitch: hmm yes, if it's got an nvidia, those cause a lot of problems.14:54
zetherooJimBuntu: regarding Chrome autostart - no it's not in the Startup Applications list, but something is prompting it to start after I login.14:54
quiltbitch@tomreyn booting up is a pain, sleeping and waking up the laptop is impossible. Any workarounds?14:54
quiltbitchmaybe I should install 16.04?14:54
tomreynquiltbitch: were you maybe around here asking the same questions yesterday? i seem to recall this, but maybe i'm just mixing this up.14:56
tomreynDell G5 15'' (5587) service manual is at https://www.dell.com/support/manuals/us/en/19/g-series-15-5587-laptop/g5-5587-servicemanual14:57
freeone3000tomreyn: Awesome, thanks.14:57
lenny_lemontomreyn, i cannot find driver u wrote ... ath9k_htc ... chipset is Atheros AR9271 ...14:57
lenny_lemontomreyn, can you advice me how to install it? correct one ...14:58
tomreynfreeone3000: you probably just want to: sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-setup14:58
freeone3000tomreyn: Yep, that got me to the right place with a quick search.14:58
freeone3000(it wasn't a standard keymodmap file, and the comment up top was a clue)14:59
tomreynlenny_lemon: can you post 'lsusb | pastebinit' after attaching the device?14:59
tomreynfreeone3000: glad i could help15:00
lenny_lemontomreyn, http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/S2wsg2533N/15:01
tomreynquiltbitch: did you try to boot into recovery and install the ubuntu proprietary drivers ppa from there?15:01
tomreynlenny_lemon: so you have it there on line 10:  ID 0cf3:9271 Atheros Communications, Inc. AR9271 802.11n15:01
tomreynlenny_lemon: lsmod | grep ath | pastebinit15:02
lenny_lemontomreyn, http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/7g4km5tbzw/15:03
tomreynlenny_lemon: so the right driver is already loaded. are you able to configure it using network-manager (assuming this is a dektop computer)?15:04
tomreyn...or a laptoip15:04
lenny_lemonlaptop15:04
jeffguorgHi. I have a problem that, one of my mdadm member failed. but when i boot up the system, the system still wait for the failure disk and enter emergency shell. i want it to automatically assemble a degraded raid. how should i do it? my os is Ubuntu 1815:04
tomreynlenny_lemon: asd opposed to a headless server15:04
quiltbitch@tomreyn yeah I was here yesterday too15:05
quiltbitch@tomreyn I already installed the nvidia drivers but I didn't do it through ppa, I did it through the settings interface15:06
tomreynlenny_lemon: running "modinfo -p ath9k_htc" (no need to show, i know the output) lists available module (driver) options you can tweak. read up on them before using them, though.  you usually dont need to modify them if everything works as expected.15:06
tomreynquiltbitch: ok. so there are some newer drivers in a ppa. do you want to trry them?15:07
tomreynquiltbitch: this discusses how to use them: https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa15:08
tomreynquiltbitch: my understanding is you can't currently get access to a grahical desktop, so let me know if you'd like guidance on how to install them form a text interface15:08
XannHi, my ubuntu 18.04 does not detect headsets via bluetooth, those are not even detected, askbuntu posts did not help.15:09
lenny_lemontomreyn, you lost me now ... :) what i suppose to do?15:09
tomreynjeffguorg: so one of the raid members in a raid failed? is this a mirror raid setup=? can you show cat /proc/mdstat15:10
tomreynlenny_lemon: you run a graphical desktop, right? standard ubuntu 18.04.1 on a laptop?15:10
quiltbitch@tomreyn my laptop works fine except that: 1) During boot up if I don't enter recovery mode and follow the reset procedure it will freeze (during bootup) 2) During boot-up if I Don't remove quiete splash and replace with nomodeset it will again freeze 3) After sleeping, the screen will not open but the laptop comes out of the sleep (e.g. keyboard is lit)15:10
lenny_lemontomreyn,  16.04 unity15:10
quiltbitchso I will try the above and see if it works15:11
quiltbitchwill let you know! thanks15:11
tomreynlenny_lemon: oh whoops, good i asked :)15:11
lenny_lemon:)15:11
tomreynquiltbitch: i'd still suggest you try the updated drivers then. you can remove them later if it turns out they do more bad than good.15:12
tomreyngood luck15:12
tomreynlenny_lemon: so have you tried just making use of it? you can configure it using the little network (up and down arrow) icon on the top right of your screen.15:13
tomreynlenny_lemon: it may also look like this icon next to the battery one here https://www.techotopia.com/images/c/c9/xUbuntu_11_unity_network_menu.jpg.pagespeed.ic.nhAGVcuyY7.jpg15:14
tomreynlenny_lemon: or it would look like those up and down arrows here http://lh4.ggpht.com/_1QSDkzYY2vc/TPQFwUY-KJI/AAAAAAAACXE/NzO_5ataJkg/s2000/network-manager-applet.png15:15
quiltbitch@tomreyn I Would install them like: "sudo apt-get install nvidia-390"?15:17
quiltbitchand should I try the 390.48 or the 396.24?15:17
tomreynquiltbitch: i guess i would just add / activate the ppa (sudo add-apt-repository ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa; sudo apt-get update), then use ubuntu-drivers to select the driver.15:20
tomreynquiltbitch: i'm afraid i don't know exactly which driver series you should be using. i know that which driver series you can use depends on the hardware model you have (which i dont think yuo discussed, yet).15:21
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quiltbitchthe hardware laptop model is g5 558715:21
quiltbitchhttps://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1404308-REG/dell_g5587_7835blk_i7_8750h_16gb_1tb.html15:22
tomreynyes you said so, i guess i could try to see which nvidia cards they put in there15:22
quiltbitchits nvidia gtx 1050 ti15:22
tomreyni think those benefit form the ppa15:23
tomreyni guess you'd want nvidia-396 (396.24)15:23
lenny_lemontomreyn, like the 1st one15:27
tomreyn!rootirc | TJ- :-P15:29
ubottuTJ- :-P: It's not technically our business, but we'd like to tell you that IRC'ing as root is a Very Bad Idea (tm). After all, doing anything as root when root is not needed is bad, and especially bad with software that connects to the Internet.15:29
lenny_lemontomreyn, i can see networks ... ah I see the difference when I unplug it ... so is it self configured ?15:30
tomreynlenny_lemon: yes15:30
tomreynlenny_lemon: that's how things uusally work on linux.15:30
tomreynquiltbitch: you got an 'urgent' bios update for this system here https://www.dell.com/support/home/us/en/19/drivers/driversdetails?driverId=817TR  - to check which one you have now. run: sudo dmidecode --type bios15:31
lenny_lemontomreyn, :)))15:31
TJ-tomreyn: are you hinting at something?15:32
tomreynTJ-: no no  ;)15:33
TJ-tomreyn: that's good; I'd hate to think you had spotted a glaring security vulnerability15:34
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tomreynTJ-: all i spotted is: TJ- (~root@...15:35
TJ-tomreyn: it's been that way for years :)15:36
tomreynTJ-: and i think yuo said it's just the realnme you set on your client.15:36
TJ-tomreyn: it could be, but when my ident server is actually opened up, it confirms it. However, IRC client is containerised15:37
tomreynhmm nice, i should do this, too.15:37
TJ-LXC/LXD is great for such things15:38
lenny_lemontomreyn, thanks ... going to search for some guides how to make it work ... i mean try ...15:38
tomreynlenny_lemon: is it not self explanatory from the graphical interface, yet?15:38
tomreynlenny_lemon: i.e. can't you just connect to your wireless access point  by selecting it form the list?15:39
lenny_lemontomreyn, I'm connected to my wifi ... but I'm gonna search for some advanced capabilities ... promiscuous mode ...15:40
tomreynlenny_lemon: mointor mode doesn't work with all hardware and drivers. but it may. good luck.15:41
lenny_lemontomreyn, thanks15:42
lenny_lemontomreyn, will let you know how it goes ...15:43
TJ-lenny_lemon: use "iw list" and look for "Supported interface modes:" and confirm it advertises "* monitor" mode15:48
TJ-lenny_lemon: if you have multiple wifi devices ensure you're checking the correct device, since "iw list" reports on all devices15:48
lenny_lemonTJ-, http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/VPS38tKvBq/15:50
TJ-lenny_lemon: according to that both devices support monitor mode15:50
lenny_lemonTJ-, i can see monitor there ...15:50
lesshastewhat's a  good google drive client for linux?15:58
satrioirchi every116:00
lesshastewhen I copy a file to my google drive using nautilus it shows the file and also a link to the file. Why does it make the symlink file?16:05
IhrFusselCan a software run OOM without a dmesg entry about it happening? For example with 15 segfaults?16:10
IhrFusseldmesg shows an application segfault and before the line says [172473.951593] show_signal_msg: 15 callbacks suppressed16:11
naccIhrFussel: no, the OOM killer will always log16:11
naccIhrFussel: it might have segfaulted 15 times?16:12
BobFranklysooo, newly setup ubuntu server, I can apt-get update without issue, but I can't apt-get install lynx, getting "has no installation candidate". Any logs I can look into to try to figure out why?16:13
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IhrFusselnacc, so an application can just segfault multiple times? I thought the OS would "stop" it after the first segfault16:14
naccIhrFussel: well, no.16:18
naccIhrFussel: i mean, your application might be controlled by a service script that restarts it on failure16:18
naccIhrFussel: a process can't segfault multiple times, really; but an application can16:19
IhrFusselBut the suppressed message happens in exact the same second as the logged segfault16:20
lenny_lemontomreyn, works fine ... need to play with it to fully understand ...16:20
naccIhrFussel: not sure; it seems unlikely to be OOM and OOM's mesage is longer than 15 lines, iirc16:21
IhrFusselHere are the 2 related lines -> [172473.951593] show_signal_msg: 15 callbacks suppressed16:23
IhrFussel[172473.951603] Server[13827]: segfault at 150 ip 000000000074d012 sp 00007f8cf5fe4050 error 4 in processname[400000+491000]16:23
naccIhrFussel: also OOM killer isn't a segfault to the process16:23
nacc(at least, as i recall)16:24
tomreynBobFrankly: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/bionic/+source/livecd-rootfs/+bug/178312916:24
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1783129 in subiquity "Only "main" component enabled after install" [High,Confirmed]16:24
lotus|NUCquiltbitch: for 1050 gtx i would try 396.5416:34
BobFranklytomreyn: thanks, that puts me in the right direction16:35
tomreynBobFrankly: i just updated it with the download location for the daily image in case you feel like reinstalling (should fix some other issues, too)16:38
tomreynBobFrankly: note there is also #ubuntu-server16:38
BobFranklyah16:39
BobFranklyalready tweaked my sources.list and getting signs of life out it :)16:40
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c__Hi all17:01
c__I am not being able to use the internet.17:01
c__Neither Wifi nor cable.17:02
c__I initially had this supplicant issue: https://askubuntu.com/questions/828076/connection-802-1x-supplicant-failed17:02
c__But after following the steps I still unable to navigate.17:03
c__Could somebody help me out?17:03
c__I'm running the 18.04 version17:04
lotus|NUCc__: hastebin sudo lshw -C network please17:06
sliptteesbetter solution for resolv.conf static?17:09
c__lotus|NUC: hastebin wasn't saving, so: https://privatebin.net/?b23099eecedd3ed0#5u4uXr/IratnjGkp+J1R4xTwdwjM8tpsKmukRCH+Rzk=17:14
XannHi, ubuntu 18.04 does not recognize sennheiser headsets via bluetooth, askbuntu forums did not worked for me.17:14
quiltbitch@lotus|NUC thanks it worked!17:14
quiltbitch@tomreyn Thanks so much! worked beautiful the latest driver17:14
lotus|NUCquiltbitch: no problem17:15
tomreynquiltbitch: nice :)17:15
lotus|NUCc__: drivers look loaded, are you behind a firewall or a router?17:15
quiltbitch@tomreyn I have BIOS 1.3.017:16
quiltbitchI think Dell already updated that patch from the windows program they have17:17
c__lotus|NUC: The wifi connection was attempted through a router, but didn't work. No firewalls.17:18
lotus|NUCc__: can you make sure its not your router block?17:18
lotus|NUCc__: direct cable connect perhaps?17:18
lotus|NUCXann: did you try blueman? is your BT driver loaded?17:19
whazproothi, hello , Quick Q ... i have debian-non-root debian linux on android with virtual filesystem ... can i just replace the apt with ubuntu-mobile and update ? ifso how ?17:21
tomreynquiltbitch: very well, so nothing to do there. the intel microcode update provided with this bios version is also provided on ubuntu  (but it needs to be loaded on every boot if it's not no the bios).17:21
c__lotus|NUC: It's says it is connected but a question mark is displayed over the cable icon, also not receiving any data.17:21
sliptteesbetter solution for resolv.conf static?17:21
tomreynwhazproot: i dont think this a supported installation here17:21
lotus|NUCc__: sure its not your isp/connection side that faults?17:21
Xannlotus|NUC: Yes, I have tryed blueman, the driver is loaded, I succesfully paired other devices, like a cellphone, but the headsets are not even recognized17:22
lotus|NUCslipttees: to get proper help, we advice to detail out your whole story, details, what have you tryed, what do you want to do?17:22
sliptteeslotus|NUC: static nameserver17:23
lotus|NUCXann: an idea to catch errors: tail -f /var/log/syslog and disable/enable BT again17:23
lotus|NUCXann: feel free to hastebin the output to the channel17:24
Xannlotus|NUC: Ok, I'm on it17:25
tomreync__: your ethernet is known to occasionally stop working after resume: bug 175850717:26
ubottubug 1758507 in linux (Ubuntu Bionic) "sky2 gigabit ethernet driver sometimes stops working after lid-open resume from sleep (88E8055)" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175850717:26
c__lotus|NUC: I tried routing the connection through the computer I am on, it displayed the same behaviour. I imagine that wouldn't be caught in a block if any existed, but its existence is very unlikely.17:26
c__It still displaying the "supplicant 802.1x" error.17:28
lotus|NUCc__: see what tomreyn suggested17:28
c__And can't find any wifi networks unless I restart the service.17:29
c__tomreyn: I see. A restart would fix it? Because I already tried that and didn't work.17:30
Xannlotus|NUC: https://pastebin.com/fcR4r9n3 there is the pastebin17:31
whazprootoh there is no ubuntu-mobile for nougat ?17:31
lotus|NUCc__: can you provide us some syslogs please?17:31
tomreync__: well i guess then it doesn't fix it ;) i noticed there are also some upstream kernel bug reports  and bug 138611 on launchpad, but those are *very* old, as is the hardware.17:31
ubottubug 138611 in linux-source-2.6.22 (Ubuntu) "Sky2 ethernet failing randomly with Marvell 88E8056 gigabit" [High,Won't fix] https://launchpad.net/bugs/13861117:31
lotus|NUCXann: that doesnt look to good indeed17:32
lotus|NUCXann: is your system up to dat to latest?17:33
tomreync__: i'd suggest getting a well supported wireless or wired (thernet) network device as a replacement for those you have now, if you are gpoing to continue using tise computer for a while longer.17:33
c__lotus|NUC: Would u recommend using journalCtl? I am not very experienced.17:33
lotus|NUCc__: its weird you have both wifi and eth not working17:33
c__tomreyn: That computer is very old indeed.17:34
tomreync__: > 10 years, i assume?17:34
c__tomreyn: It's from 2010 if I remember correctly. That's the device: https://esupport.sony.com/US/p/model-home.pl?mdl=VPCEA36FX17:36
lotus|NUCXann: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/174856517:36
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1748565 in linux (Ubuntu) "Kernel regularly logs: Bluetooth: hci0: last event is not cmd complete (0x0f)" [Medium,Confirmed]17:36
Xannlotus|NUC: Yes, it is, I did a apt update and upgrade and there are no updates aviable.17:38
c__lotus|NUC: I took some logs: https://privatebin.net/?a36281c01293c7fe#ceZdiCLwgNXqQ78+jqTCP+kEyRIMWipfNHQZl2b5qlE=17:41
ioriac__,    dmesg | grep -i sky217:43
tomreync__: okay, not as old as i was thinking, but still quite old. a pity that sony went for the cheapest compoentns they could find there.17:44
Xannlotus|NUC: Should I try to install a newest kernel?17:45
lotus|NUCc__: i dont see any network related boot in syslog17:45
lotus|NUCXann: follow the bug i posted, add yourself affected it seems 18.10 has also this bug for some users17:46
lotus|NUCXann: you could help testing sure, try previous or a newer kernel always helps17:46
c__ioria: Here: https://privatebin.net/?e926711bb4939bd9#4pTgaCivUoRLL3sK4DDGXEN17yrBKrsG1X3LGDT+cKY=17:47
Sven_vBdoes anyone know a good tool to generate diagrams, where I can save receipes of how I want the diagrams to be made in files (ideally text) separate from data, and then view my CSV files using recipes of my choice?17:47
* Sven_vB checks how complicated that would actually be in gnuplot17:49
Xannlotus|NUC: I see that, kernel 4.15.0 is running on my computer, and there are users that have the same problem on 4.15.8, I will follow that, I am going to try with other laptops that I have and post the logs there17:49
c__lotus|NUC: My mistake, the file is big. Here is the network part: https://privatebin.net/?78c5da88dd8a166b#7sBxtxFeWmYV0ubqAtzF+e7wVl5615Ff4l7m+YYyztQ=17:50
lotus|NUCXann: .33 is out for 4.1517:51
ioriac__, uname -r17:52
lotus|NUCXann: you said your system was up to date?17:52
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c__ioria: 4.15.0-34-generic17:58
ioria!info linux-generic17:58
ubottulinux-generic (source: linux-meta): Complete Generic Linux kernel and headers. In component main, is optional. Version 4.15.0.33.35 (bionic), package size 1 kB, installed size 15 kB17:58
ioriac__, or you're using a not standard kernel or i missing something17:59
c__Ok guys.18:04
c__I will go back to the version 16.18:04
lotus|NUCc__: lsb_release -a ?18:05
ioriano one told you that18:06
Xannlotus|NUC:  I have the kernel version 4.15.0-33-generic18:07
XannThere are no updates for me18:07
lotus|NUCXann: ah you meant your other computers had different kernel then?18:07
Xannlotus|NUC:I have another computer that runs Linux Mint 19 and is the same situation.18:11
bookugafter I install libboost-all-dev18:13
bookugwhere can I find the position of libboost-system.so18:13
bookugnot in /usr/lib and /lib, /usr/local/lib18:13
bookugwhat is the hell18:13
lesshasteI am using nautilus to access my Google drive. It all works fine except when I copy a file from my local drive to the Google drive by dragging and dropping in nautilus, it makes two files for every file I copy.18:16
lesshastehow can I stop this?18:17
pragmaticenigmaIs it actually making two files on Google drive, or is just an appearance thing?18:17
lotus|NUCbookug: start from the beginning please, ubuntu version, what are you trying to do?18:27
whazprootjsqemu on an apk loading a virtual filesystem debian ... can i replace apt sources to run ubuntu as used todo ?18:28
lotus|NUC!debian | whazproot18:28
ubottuwhazproot: Ubuntu and Debian are closely related. Ubuntu builds on the foundations of Debian architecture and infrastructure, with a different community and release process. See https://www.ubuntu.com/about/about-ubuntu/ubuntu-and-debian - !Repositories meant for Debian should NOT be used on Ubuntu!18:28
whazproothtml5 android java app loading html5 jsqemu18:28
whazprootcan i run jsqemu ubuntu touch beta then ?18:29
leftyfbwhazproot: That's not supported here18:29
whazprootwhere ?18:29
pragmaticenigmawhazproot: none of what you just wrote makes sense, other than it appears you are running on Debian. This channel only support Ubuntu's official flavors and matters specific to the operating system.18:30
pragmaticenigmawhazproot: We are unable to support other distributions as well as working with devices other than a traditional desktop or server18:31
texlaubuntu 18.04 ubuntu/gnome De While booting the numLk pad light and buttons are active after login the light turns off and back on the num Lk pad buttons then goes dead and I have to use keyboard buttons for numbers..When I switch to cinnamon de all the systems work and continue too do so?18:31
whazprootandroid studio ... create empty tab app ... fillin java code for webview ... link webview to xml view ... add resources dir ... load jsqemu as file android asset ...18:31
leftyfb!alis | whazproot18:32
ubottuwhazproot: Alis is an IRC service to help you find channels. For help on using it, see "/msg Alis help list" or ask in #freenode. Example usage: "/msg Alis list http"18:32
pragmaticenigmawhazproot: Again, not supported here18:32
whazprootwhy isnt there jsqemu ubuntu on android yet ?18:32
leftyfbwhazproot: try #android18:32
whazprootk thkx18:32
whazprootand better then jsqemu ubuntu would be jsqemu ubuntutouch ofc but thats locked inside phablet tools ? or runs native ? ... so whats the ubuntu touch irc channel again plz ?18:33
leftyfb!alis | whazproot18:33
leftyfbwhazproot: see above for info on the Alis service on freenode18:34
whazproot!alis #ubuntu-touch18:34
leftyfbwhazproot: not here18:34
leftyfbwhazproot: Alis is an IRC service to help you find channels. For help on using it, see "/msg Alis help list" or ask in #freenode. Example usage: "/msg Alis list http"18:34
leftyfbwhazproot: good luck18:34
whazprootthkx peace18:35
whazprootand bytgheway if u do port jsqemu from qemu aagain ... this time tree.js and webgl ofc lol18:37
lotus|NUCwhazproot: stop that please18:37
texlaubuntu 18.04 ubuntu/gnome De While booting the numLk pad light and buttons are active after login the light turns off and back on the num Lk pad buttons then goes dead and I have to use keyboard buttons for numbers..When I switch to cinnamon de all the systems work and continue too do so?18:39
pragmaticenigma!patience | texla18:40
ubottutexla: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or https://ubuntuforums.org or https://askubuntu.com/18:40
keepguessingAfter upgrading to 18.04 (from 16.04) I see that default route is not set.18:41
keepguessingAm I missing something?18:41
pragmaticenigma!details | keepguessing18:42
ubottukeepguessing: Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information; for example, we might need errors, steps, relevant configuration files, Ubuntu version, and hardware information. Use a !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel.18:42
keepguessingpragmaticenigma: there is no error. the default route gateway in route -n is not existing. I did a LTS to LTS upgrade.18:43
ExoUNXgreetings18:43
ExoUNXI don't see php-smbclient in Ubuntu 18.0418:43
ExoUNXdo I need to enable a repo to access it?"18:43
lotus|NUCExoUNX: its in universe18:44
keepguessingpragmaticenigma: what info should I provide here?18:44
ExoUNXlotus|NUC, pretty sure everything is in the universe ;)18:44
lotus|NUC!info php-smbclient | ExoUNX18:45
ExoUNXnot sure what "universe" is to Ubuntu though18:45
pragmaticenigmakeepguessing: if you're not experiencing an issue, I do not understand what you a looking for then.18:45
ubottuExoUNX: php-smbclient (source: php-smbclient): PHP wrapper for libsmbclient. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.0-3build2 (bionic), package size 21 kB, installed size 86 kB18:45
ExoUNXlotus|NUC, I've seen the page, but that doesn't help18:46
ExoUNXI'm relatively new the ubuntu ecosystem18:46
lotus|NUCExoUNX: the page?18:46
ExoUNXhttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/bionic/+source/php-smbclient18:46
pragmaticenigmaExoUNX: Perhaps a good opportunity to search for "Ubuntu Enable Universe Repo"18:46
keepguessingpragmaticenigma: Oh the issue is that I am do not have any network. unable to ping outside the network.18:47
wadUsing 18.04, when I ALT-TAB, and have multiple Chrome browser windows open, it groups them under one chrome icon. But I need to ALT-TAB between those Chrome windows. What's the magic trick?18:47
keepguessingpragmaticenigma: I found that there was no default route in the route -n. Adding one manually seems to make everything work.18:47
pragmaticenigmakeepguessing: Did you have a custom configuration in 16.04 ? 18.04 uses netplan instead of the previous network management toolset18:48
ExoUNXthanks18:48
keepguessingpragmaticenigma: no I do not. (no static ip's etc.,)18:49
leftyfbpragmaticenigma: the upgrade from 16.04 to 18.04 doesn't use netplan by default18:49
pragmaticenigmathanks for the clarification leftyfb18:49
whazproothttps://www.sololearn.com/Discuss/1472467/how-to-build-a-mobile-app-with-html-js-and-css/18:51
pragmaticenigmawhazproot: This is not a channel for discussion of application development... please stop posting offtopic18:52
keepguessingSo I do see that the network manager is able to identify the default gw. https://dpaste.de/SNkD18:54
keepguessingbut I do nto see any errors in the journalctl about failure to set the default gw.18:55
wadAh, I figured it out! Changed the keyboard bindings to hook up ALT-TAB to switch windows, instead of applications.19:01
wadMan, I miss my Ring Switcher. :(19:01
naccwad: there's an alternatetab extension to gnome to do that19:10
mcjHi all. How would one best partition the following config: 256GB SDD and 2TB HDD19:15
mcj/ on SSD, /home on HDD?19:16
naccmcj: well, it depends entirely on your use case :)19:18
albechhad to add 'nomodeset' as bootarg in grub to get my old mac mini to boot 18.04, but this has resulted in the second monitor not to be detected. any ideas?19:19
keepguessingpragmaticenigma: ok I found the issue. seems like the settings on the interface was "use this connection only for resources on this network".19:20
keepguessingpragmaticenigma: I was not aware of this kind of setting in ubuntu 16.04 anywhere.19:21
texlaubuntu 18.04 ubuntu/gnome De While booting the numLk pad light and buttons are active after login the light turns off and back on the num Lk pad buttons then goes dead and I have to use keyboard buttons for numbers..When I switch to cinnamon de all the systems work and continue too do so?19:22
pragmaticenigmaSeems new to me as well keepguessing ... but that would make sense19:22
c__Hey guys.19:23
keepguessingok thanks. I would like know a config option of where this was set. I do not see this in netplan or the older /etc/network/interfaces19:23
c__My system is working now.19:24
pragmaticenigmakeepguessing: it almost sounds like a setting I would expect to see for VPN setup19:24
c__Thanks for all the help anyways.19:25
c__Bye19:25
ledenitexla: open terminal and set --> gsettings set org.gnome.settings-daemon.peripherals.keyboard numlock-state 'on'19:26
albechpragmaticenigma: that setting is commonly used in VPN connections, right19:27
texlaledeni, already did what you suggest19:27
keepguessingpragmaticenigma: Its a setting on the network adapter in the UI. This has some good infor on it. https://askubuntu.com/questions/913112/how-to-toggle-networkmanagers-use-this-connection-only-for-resources-on-its-ne thanks.19:27
javi404hi19:28
javi404anyone know why ubuntu 16.04 comes with nginx 1.10.3 instead of something newer? 14.x comes with 1.12.219:28
javi404nginx 15 is latest out.19:28
albechjavi404: its a LTS release19:29
javi404albech: I thought 14 was also LTS release19:29
javi404unless I missed something.19:29
javi404yeah, picking LTS release for that reason, we are just moving from 14 16 and noticed that19:29
albechjavi404: 14.??19:29
javi404was surprised19:29
javi404albech: I think, let me see19:29
albechjavi404: probably 14.1019:30
javi404PRETTY_NAME="Ubuntu 14.04.5 LTS"19:30
albechjavi404: then i agree it seems rather strange. sure you not added some repo?19:30
javi404albech: double checking, I am not sure if someone else added something.19:31
javi404albech: these are years old at this point.19:31
albechjavi404: figured that much if runnin on 14.0419:31
javi404nginx/trusty,now 1.12.2-0+trusty0 all [installed]19:31
ioria!info nginx trusty19:32
ubottunginx (source: nginx): small, powerful, scalable web/proxy server. In component main, is optional. Version 1.4.6-1ubuntu3.8 (trusty), package size 5 kB, installed size 94 kB19:32
javi404!info nginx xenial19:33
ubottunginx (source: nginx): small, powerful, scalable web/proxy server. In component main, is optional. Version 1.10.3-0ubuntu0.16.04.2 (xenial), package size 3 kB, installed size 37 kB19:33
javi404ioria: so it looks like someone manually upgraded it,19:34
albechjavi404: indeed19:34
pragmaticenigma!latest | javi40419:34
ubottujavi404: Packages in Ubuntu may not be the latest. Ubuntu aims for stability, so "latest" may not be a good idea. Post-release updates are only considered if they are fixes for security vulnerabilities, high impact bug fixes, or unintrusive bug fixes with substantial benefit. See also !backports, !sru, and !ppa.19:34
ioriajavi404, apt-cache policy nginx19:34
javi404might have even been me and I forgot since it was long ago, haha.19:34
albechjavi404: internal documentation ftw ;)19:35
javi404albech: yeah, I have notes somewhere, this is on a client system.19:35
w0rpI'm trying to fix some broken booting issues in KDE Neon, where much of the steps are the same as Ubuntu.19:36
w0rpI managed to get my linux image and so on in /boot again, and I got the GRUB menu to update. I diffed that and the old config, and the only difference was just the kernel version, so I copied that to the EFI partition.19:37
javi404i don't see any nginx repo added19:38
ioriajavi404, apt-cache policy nginx19:38
w0rpNow I have the problem that on boot it drops to initramfs and my encrypted partitions aren't in /dev/mapper. Does anyone know what the problem might be?19:38
javi404ioria: ok, let me check that19:38
javi404ioria: ok, i see that, looks like it is getting it from : 500 http://ppa.launchpad.net/nginx/stable/ubuntu/ trusty/main amd64 Packages19:40
mcjThe ideal situation is that all OS files sit on the SSD and any user-related files like documents, music, and games would be pulled from the HDD19:40
ioriajavi404, yep19:40
mcjSo I assume that partition scheme is good19:40
mcjBut it may underutilize my SSD space...19:40
javi404ioria: so how did that get there? I didn't see sources anywhere, what command would I use.19:41
ioriajavi404, ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d/19:41
javi404ioria: ok, i see it now19:42
javi404someone added it19:42
javi404thanks, must have been some reason to upgrade19:42
javi404ill do same in 16.19:42
naccjavi404: not the exact same, you obviously want the xenial version of the pacakge (not trusty)19:43
javi404nacc: yep, thanks.19:43
pragmaticenigmamcj: I may have missed a previous comment. Do you have an Ubuntu related support question?19:44
mcjpragmaticenigma: I was asking what the best way to partition a 256 SSD and a 2TB HDD is19:46
mcj/ = SSD, /home = HDD19:46
mcjBut with that scheme, I feel like I am under-utilizing my SSD19:46
pragmaticenigmamcj: As nacc had mentioned perviously... it all depends on your usage case. Your question isn't exactly a support question is likely to generate lots of opinons. I would encourage you to search the web and see what others have found to work for them and come to your own conclusion on what you feel will work best for your needs.19:50
mcjThank you19:50
TJ-mcj: I'd use LVM, and not pre-allocate all the space. The rootfs rarely needs more than 8GB. Another 8GB for /var, and then /home starting with 32GB and grow it as required19:51
naccTJ-: that's a good point19:51
wendicohello, i have a fresh ubuntu 18 installation. i want to use heimdall to flash my old samsumg but sudo apt-get install heimdall says no candidate and that heimdall-flash replace it, is heimdall installed by default on last ubuntu version? should i sudo apt-get install heimdall-flash instead? thank you19:52
naccwendico: ... well heimdall can't be installed on the lastest ubuntu, so it can't be installed by default.19:52
naccwendico: in fact, afaict, there is no binary package 'heimdall' in any ubuntu19:53
wendicoso is that means that i cant usea that heimdall software on my last ubuntu version?19:54
naccwendico: well, where did you get the binary packge name 'heimdall' from?19:54
naccwendico: heimdall-flash is the package name, afaict19:55
pragmaticenigmawendico: There has never been a "Heimdall" package available in Ubuntu. From what I can see ,the samsung flash utility has always been called heimall-flash for ubuntu dating back to Trusty19:55
wendicoi didnt get it yet, i connectec to android channel and they told me i could flash my samsumg with heimdall so i did sudo apt-get install heimdall with the result explained before19:55
naccwendico: right, heimdall is a program name, not a package name, maybe19:55
wendicoahhh ok, so i should sudo apt-get install heimdall-flash ?19:56
wendicoshould i also install heimdall-flash-frontend?19:56
wendicothank you19:57
pragmaticenigmakeepguessing: Another thought, did you ever attempt to disable IPv6 features in 16.04?19:57
keepguessingpragmaticenigma: no.19:58
pragmaticenigmakeepguessing: okay19:58
* redraw thinking19:58
wendicoand another question, if i dont really want to flash the whole firmware, can i use adb commands from ubuntu, if so, what do i need to install, because i dont really want to install theh whole firmware again i would just like to trigger an apk installation on my phone from ubuntu, is that posible aswell?20:00
pragmaticenigmawendico: That is outside the scope of this channel. We don't support android20:00
tangaroraHi all, I want to edit gsettings globally for all users. How do I do that?20:00
pragmaticenigmatangarora: There is no "global" ability20:01
tangaroralike: gsettings set org.gnome.shell.extensions.dash-to-dock click-action 'minimize'20:01
tangarorabut for all20:01
wendicoallright, thank you, im always out of topic, sorry very much, im new on this things so dont always know in what channels to ask, sorry20:01
keepguessingpragmaticenigma: now I see that the network is pingable the its not able to dns resolve unless I add a dns server of my network.20:01
pragmaticenigmatangarora: There isn't a tool that does that.20:02
pragmaticenigmakeepguessing: Do you have another machine on your network running Ubuntu 18.04 that is having any issues?20:02
tangarora<pragmaticenigma> is there a setings template file that I can edit then?20:02
tangaroraI mean, because distros have different defaults...20:03
iresfhello20:03
pragmaticenigmatangarora: https://help.gnome.org/admin/system-admin-guide/3.28/20:03
pragmaticenigmatangarora: take a look there, all you need to know about admining Gnome will be there20:04
iresfI have set https_proxy in Ubuntu server on vm  but it does not work20:04
keepguessingpragmaticenigma: I have another vm with ubuntu 18.04 installed (not an upgrade). It works fine.20:04
iresfanyone help20:04
pragmaticenigmakeepguessing: Just wondering if the DHCP server (assuming network router) was having issues20:04
madLyfewhat is the area called and located where you can see via gui your sources and added PPAs?20:05
keepguessingpragmaticenigma: no. Both the vms are alive right now. And I am having this issue.20:05
mortDoes Ubuntu Server have some lower limit to the size of disk it can be installed on? I noticed that a fresh install only uses like 3.3GB, but I'm unable to select a 5GB disk in the installer20:07
nacciresf: that's too vague to be helped. What symptoms do you see, etc.20:07
iresfnacc : I set https_proxy with this command : export https_proxy="https://proxy:port"20:08
pragmaticenigmakeepguessing: oh... these are vms20:08
blackflowmort: 3.3GB + 2GB swapfile20:08
keepguessingpragmaticenigma: :-)20:08
nacckeepguessing: you just don't have DNS by default? what entry, if any, is in /etc/resolv.conf?20:09
blackflowmort: or is swapfile in that 3.3?20:09
nacciresf: ok... that isn't a symptom yet20:09
nacciresf: use a pastebin20:09
tomreynmadLyfe: "software & updates", AKA software-properties-gtk (or -kde)20:09
mortblackflow: if it's an actual swapfile and not swap partition, it's a part of the 3.3GB, because it's the "Used" section in `df -h`20:09
dbouhello, any suggestions on calendar apps that integrate with ubuntu20:10
dbouubuntu 18.0420:10
blackflowmort: default is swapfile. yeah that sounds about right, ~3G in total20:10
pragmaticenigmadbou: Ubuntu comes with one already built in20:11
iresfnacc : https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Yb46csBZxF/20:11
nacciresf: ...20:11
dboupragmaticenigma, for some reason I am not able to run it... find it. I think because I installed the minimal version20:11
iresfnacc  : but when I use curl ipinfo.io/ip   it does not show that the proxy ip20:11
keepguessingnacc: 127.0.0.5320:11
nacciresf: i asked for a symptom, and you pastebinned what you alread wrote20:11
nacciresf: are you curl'ing over https?20:12
nacckeepguessing: ok, that's systemd-resolved; you can query it for dns info20:12
nacckeepguessing: see `man systemd-resolve`20:12
iresfnacc : ye s20:12
dbousudo apt-get install gnome-calendar worked :)20:14
nacciresf: you need to pastebin the curl, etc.20:15
keepguessingnacc: I am not looking at adding a dns server. I am trying to debug the difference of why this shoudl work on this.20:17
nacckeepguessing: you said you added your local dns server and things worked20:17
nacckeepguessing: so you need to ask systemd-resolve what it is using or not.20:17
keepguessingwhy its not working on my auto-upgraded ubuntu installed and works on the directly installed version.20:18
Wafficushi there, how do I force lubuntu to have transparency terminal windows?20:21
Wafficusis this possible with OpenBox for a Linux newbie?20:21
keepguessingnacc: ok looks like its not using the dns server that is used in the "clean install".20:21
pragmaticenigmakeepguessing: freshly installed 18.04 is not using the same network management tools as 18.04 upgraded machines20:21
keepguessingpragmaticenigma: what is the difference.20:22
pragmaticenigmakeepguessing: In 18.04 fresh installed, Ubuntu uses a local instance of dnsmasq to perform local caching.20:22
madLyfeso i added the mozilla ppa because i didnt want to wait for the recent FF to be pushed to me. now i have these showing up at updates. what exactly is going on here? https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/6sAQzjy7/image.png20:22
pragmaticenigmakeepguessing: so in fresh 18.04, your machine is configured to look locally for DNS, and dnsmasq uses the DNS servers applied from the DHCP request20:23
pragmaticenigmamadLyfe: We don't support 3rd party PPAs20:23
keepguessingpragmaticenigma: so installing dnsmasq in the upgraded version would help?20:23
pragmaticenigmamadLyfe: It is also why we do not recommend installing 3rd party PPAs20:23
madLyfeits a ppa from the ubuntu security team, isnt it?20:23
pragmaticenigmakeepguessing: I don't think after the fact will help20:23
pragmaticenigmamadLyfe: no20:24
madLyfehmm20:24
keepguessingso how do I tell ubuntu to use dnsmasq?20:24
madLyfewell im not here saying there is a problem, im just wondering what is going on with it to better understand.20:24
leftyfbmadLyfe: I don't actually see what the issue is at all. You added a ppa and now it checks that ppa for updates along with all your other repo's. What's the issue?20:25
madLyfewhy is there 2 updates? and why am i getting another update after i already got the update when i added the PPA.20:25
pragmaticenigmamadLyfe: As was already stated... not supported... you will have to reach out to the maintainer of that repo for those answers20:26
leftyfbmadLyfe: updates for what exactly?20:27
madLyfeor is this the push from the main ubuntu repo over the top of the PPA?20:27
madLyfethe FF updates.20:27
pragmaticenigmamadLyfe: The the 3rd party repo is now the controller for Firefox... They will superseed changes in the Ubuntu repo. If Ubuntu team releases an update to FF, your system will not install it20:28
leftyfbmadLyfe: pastebin the following: apt-cache policy firefox20:28
leftyfbpragmaticenigma: not exactly true. If for whatever reason the ubuntu repo has an update with a higher number, that will get installed over the PPA version20:28
madLyfehttps://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Rq7YsfqV57/20:29
leftyfbHigher version numbers are what override/updates packages. Not the source. Sources don't set wight/priority20:29
leftyfbweight*20:29
leftyfbmadLyfe: according to that, you still have a new update from the PPA. Feel free to install it if that is what you're trying to do20:30
madLyfeleftyfb: its odd that it says ubuntu 18.04.2? is there a ubuntu version bump coming?20:35
leftyfbmadLyfe: that's the version of firefox20:35
leftyfb62.0+build2-0ubuntu0.18.04.220:35
leftyfbthey bumped the version so the update would get installed20:35
leftyfbit has nothing to do with the version of ubuntu20:35
madLyfeohh20:36
ExoUNXcan I get snap help here?20:50
keepguessingnacc: ok I installed dnsmasq. toggled automatic dns caching setting which resolved my issue.20:51
javi404ExoUNX: what is snap help?20:51
ExoUNXIs it possible to receive assistance with Ubuntu snaps20:52
ExoUNXin this channel20:52
Bashing-om!snappy20:53
ubottuUbuntu Core is a rendition of Ubuntu with transactional updates using "snappy". For discussion and support, please visit #snappy and see http://www.ubuntu.com/snappy/20:53
Bashing-omExoUNX: ^^ better response in the #snappy channel .20:54
ExoUNXcool, thanks20:55
raidghostThanks. Now i got the Tvserie Snappy The Kangeroo on my mind.20:55
jayjois there a way to reduce the resolution on my machine, even if it's only using software? I'm at my monitor max/allowed by the os at 1920x1080, but the fonts are large. Any way around it?21:08
akemjayjo, maybe try to look the font section in gnome-tweak-tool.21:09
TJ-jayjo: you want smaller fonts? It could be a scaling-factor issue, or a HiDPI theme/setting21:15
Nokajia 'gamma' setting screen came up form somewhere and I may have inadvertently changed the settings - the upshot is everything is fine apart from Night Mode, which doesn't change anything any more21:21
qwefytuoitytyhow to look frequency gpu and frequency gpu memory? NV 710. Nvidia driver not installed21:28
tomreynqwefytuoityty: https://www.mesa3d.org/envvars.html21:33
tomreynexample: GALLIUM_HUD="cpu,fps;primitives-generated" LIBGL_SHOW_FPS=1 glxgears >/dev/null21:39
kaddi@tomreyn I was here yesterday with the sleep issues. I figured out the issue and thought I'd share. It seems that the 'real' issue today is that the sd-card reader isn't (yet?) supported and prevents the sleep. Disabling the sd-card reader in BIOS and setting the kernel parameters as indicated in your link allowed me  to successfully get the machine to sleep.21:42
kaddiJust wanted to let you know :)21:42
tomreynkaddi: great, glad you worked it out. i spotted someone discussing the sdcard causing the wakeup events on one of those linked pages, too. glad it actually works.21:43
idjiti'm attempting to install 18.04 server. it fails after the partitioning stage (8/11). it sees the drive just fine up to this point (lists the drive in the menu with the correct size and everything). the full log says "ValueError: no disk with serial '...' found". any ideas what would cause this?21:45
tomreynidjit: is it 18.04.0 or 18.04.1 ?21:46
idjit18.04.1. i downloaded it earlier today.21:47
TJ-idjit: is it an install to bare-metal or a virtual machine?21:48
idjitbare-metal.21:48
TJ-idjit: what interface is the disk on? SATA, SCSI, IDE, iSCSI, something else?21:50
TJ-idjit: we had some bugs with VM installs using virtio that affected subiquity/curtin/MAAS, but those were fixed in those packages21:50
idjiti'm not sure about the disk interface. is there a better way to get that without cracking open the case?21:51
TJ-idjit: are you able to drop to a shell from the installer, and check the /sys/block/... fs node for that device, see if it does report a serial # or not21:51
kaddionly thing I need to figure out now is to get the sleep to stop  when I open the lid or type on the keyboard :P21:51
TJ-idjit: alternatively, boot the system from a desktop LiveISO and do the queries via the "Try Ubuntu" session21:52
qwefytuoitytyIf need to compile variant is not interesting to me. Have variant easier?21:52
qwefytuoitytyIf need to compile this variant is not interesting to me. Have variant easier?21:53
idjitTJ-: i don't see anything with the serial number in /sys/block21:54
tomreynqwefytuoityty: please rephrase.21:54
idjitTJ-: lspci lists "02:00.0 Non-Volatile memory controller: Samsung Electronics Co Ltd Device a808", which i think is it21:54
tomreynkaddi: so currently ou need to push the power button to wake it from sleep?21:55
idjitand /dev/block/nvm30n1 is pointing to that pci device (if i'm reading this correctly)21:55
idjitTJ-: /dev/disk/by-id contains a symlink with the disk's serial number in the name pointing to that device21:57
kadditomreyn: yes21:57
jayjois there an easy way to send a sigint to a systemd service? Now I do sudo service <service> stop and wait hours21:57
jayjoor sigkill i guess21:57
TJ-idjit: I'd expect under a node under /dev/disk/by-id/ of the form <interface>_<vendor>_<model>_<serial>21:58
tomreynkaddi: then, for now, i consider this to be a luxury issue ;-)21:58
TJ-idjit: so something in the installer is either losing the serial # or never finding it21:59
tomreynkaddi: do file a bug though, if there isn't one already.21:59
kadditomreyn: I'm also considering it a luxury issue :D I'll wait a bit with the bug report as I'm not even sure if it's a config issue on my end or not22:00
idjitTJ-: yes. i have that. "/dev/disk/by-id/nvme-PM981_NVMe_Samsung_256GB__S44...". the installer complains that it cannot find "PM981_NVMe_Samsung_256GB_______S44..."22:00
tomreynjayjo: use systemctl to manage systemd, not 'service'22:00
idjitTJ-: can i just partition the disk myself with a different livedisk and skip this part of setup?22:01
qwefytuoitytyTo install, I must first compile? https://www.mesa3d.org/envvars.html22:01
TJ-idjit: are you seeing these /dev/ nodes from the actual installer, or from the Try Ubuntu live session?22:01
TJ-idjit: if the former, then it definitely seems to have got its knickers in a twist :)22:01
TJ-idjit: in theory, but this is likely a symptom of a deeper issue, else I'm sure we'd have seen this before on bare metal22:02
tomreynqwefytuoityty: you don't need to install or sompile anything. just run any application / commpand which created an opengl context and prefix it by these environment variables.22:02
idjitafter the installer bails it offers me to drop into a shell. i'm using that shell now and reporting what it says is in /dev22:02
TJ-idjit: the fact there's a /dev/disk/by-id/ node there, but the installer says it can't find it, points to something weird going on.22:03
tomreynqwefytuoityty: if you don't have glxinfo installed and want to try this with this simple opengl command, you can install it like so: sudo apt install mesa-utils22:03
tomreyni mean glxgears, not glxinfo22:04
idjitTJ-: i was afraid of that. https://certification.ubuntu.com/hardware/201609-25114/ says this system should work. but that's 16.04, which i was hoping to skip.22:04
TJ-idjit: I'm looking at the source-code now; it appears some serial numbers have weird formats (such as containing spaces) so first we should see exactly what the serial number is. Can you paste it here?22:05
idjitunfortunately i don't have *exact* since there are spaces that appear to be normalized to underscores, and i have to count them, since ther'es no copy pate :-)22:07
TJ-idjit: this looks like Bug #1647485 which is supposed to be fixed22:07
ubottubug 1647485 in systemd "NVMe symlinks broken by devices with spaces in model or serial strings" [Unknown,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164748522:07
qwefytuoitytyi use ubuntu-mate 18, in ubuntu-mate nouveau?22:08
tomreynqwefytuoityty: yes, you can use this with ubuntu-mate and nouveau mesa based open source drivers.22:08
idjitTJ-: well, shucks. this was fixed over a year ago. possible regression?22:09
tomreynqwefytuoityty: there is no "ubuntu-mate 18", though, there is "Ubuntu Mate 18.04 LTS"22:09
TJ-idjit: indeed; that's why getting to see the exact serial # (and what's in  /dev/disk/by-id/ ) would be very handy22:10
tomreynthat'd be an awesome regression, not.22:10
TJ-idjit: could you write them to a USB storage device?22:10
idjiti can dig one up, sure, but i'm going to have to get back to it tomorrow. while i'm preserving things, where would the mdadm stacktrace outputs go? is that logged somewhere?22:11
TJ-idjit: stacktrace!? did it core-dump?22:11
TJ-idjit: generally crashes are recorded in /var/crash/22:12
idjitmeant to mention that. python stacktrace in the installer log, yeah. this thing was grumpy. nothing in /var/crash though.22:12
TJ-idjit: if you're seeing multiple issues, including mdadm crashing, I'd start to suspect the hardware is flakey22:12
idjitbrand f'qn new out of the box today :-(22:13
TJ-idjit: I usually track down recent log files using "ls -latr /var/log/" which lists most recently modified last22:13
TJ-idjit: that doesn't preclude bad RAM modules22:13
idjitTJ-: you're right, of course, i just wish things worked, lol22:14
TJ-idjit: join my club!22:14
TJ-I'm juggling so many issues I'm meeting myself coming back the other way :)22:15
idjitalright, thank you for your help, i've gotta run for now, but this gives me a few threads to pick up on tomorrow. so i'll get back to you if i can't get it sorted out. thank you!22:16
qwefytuoitytyxsensor and psensor have for gpu only temperature, not bad if in psensor for gpu it will be possible to see frequencys.22:17
qwefytuoitytyxsensor temperature and voltage for gpu22:19
tomreynqwefytuoityty: for now most people are happy when nvidia works on linux at all. you can always send them e-mail expressing your discontent with their linux support.22:22
TJ-I hit a really weird issue with nvidia-x-settings recently; on a dual-GPU/4-monitor config with 2 X screens, it correctly configures the monitor layout for the greeter, but as soon as user logs in it breaks it (changes rotation, and position) - manual xrandr is required to fix it. This wasn't a problem a couple years ago.22:25
ice99what's the best irc client?22:33
Tin_manpersonal opinion hexchat22:34
naccice99: not really ontopic for this channel.22:34
Tin_mannacc, hard not to ask a simple question, but if your new shinny topic police badge is on then so be it..22:39
qwefytuoitytyhttps://screenshots.firefox.com/wZdaRajtQVohrHo9/null22:39
naccTin_man: there are many channels dedicated to chitchat and general Linux questions. We like to keep this channel clear for support discussions only.22:40
qwefytuoitytyIn Windows22:40
Tin_mannacc drop it your taking this way past the point..22:40
naccqwefytuoityty: why are you posting a screen shot of windows?22:40
qwefytuoitytyXP22:40
slyjesterSo what does everyone use for a music player?22:42
jeremy318 track22:42
naccslyjester: please take polls to #ubuntu-offtopic. If you have a specific Ubuntu support question, ask it here.22:43
slyjesterWoops wrong channel22:43
slyjestermy bad22:43
qwefytuoitytyaudacious or any players22:43
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qwebirc64497How do I make a .deb package? :)23:49
slyjesterqwebirc64497, You can use checkinstall23:51
slyjesterWell, thats if you'd be using make otherwise23:52
qwebirc64497I'm using make, but I got an error23:55
qwebirc64497========================= Installation results =========================== make: *** No rule to make target 'install'.  Stop.  ****  Installation failed. Aborting package creation.23:55
jeremy31qwebirc64497 are you trying to install a deb or build one?23:56
qwebirc64497build23:56
jeremy31qwebirc64497 build a driver or something else?  I might have a site in my bookmarks23:58
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qwebirc64497It's a text editor written in C23:59

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