[00:00] roadkill: this works fine with Windows? [00:00] yep [00:00] roadkill: have you tried the OSI hacks to fake Windows in Linux? TJ has an article for it, iirc [00:00] i wonder if it's an ACPI issue [00:00] it simply doesn't show up in linux [00:01] american megatrends bios. looks like the oem didn't block a single option. [00:01] nacc: OSI hacks? Huh. No, haven't tried that [00:02] roadkill: http://iam.tj/prototype/enhancements/Windows-acpi_osi.html [00:03] roadkill: i would try that, tbh; see if it makes any difference first [00:04] rebooting. [00:04] couldn't find a single mention of wifi in the bios before. was looking for switch to disable bluetooth there. [00:05] lsusb and rfkill list all still identical. hmm. [00:07] yeah. no wifi still. [00:10] adding the new intel iwlwifi firmwares. there aren't identical filenames in /lib/firmware [00:11] roadkill: ... did you do what that page said? [00:11] roadkill: how are your uefi settings, fastboot & secureboot? [00:11] roadkill: or are you trying other things? [00:11] firmware update is here, if any http://www.teclast.com/en/firmware/ [00:11] nacc: I did what the page said. No difference. Already ran the osi script and rebooted twice. [00:11] roadkill: oh ok [00:12] Can't find the relevant download for this ID number! <--- device is too new. [00:12] lotuspsychje: fastboot disabled. secureboot disabled. [00:13] ok tnx [00:14] roadkill: still would liek to see a realtime tail please [00:14] Southbridge chipset options in bios even has an OS Selection field. [00:14] wanna see what this device does exactly [00:14] lotuspsychje: what do I do to give you that? [00:15] roadkill: tail -f /var/log/syslog and plug out/plug in your device [00:15] it's built into the motherboard. [00:15] not a usb stick I can unplug. [00:16] didnt you say it was a stick? [00:16] No, I said it's a usb connected device built into the motherboard. [00:16] as opposed to sdio. [00:16] ah kk [00:17] roadkill: then just disable wifi, and enable again please? [00:17] I wish it was just a stick: I could easily find a more linux friendly one to use. [00:17] wifi doesn't show up. At all. Nothing for me to click on to disable. [00:17] roadkill: even after a network-manager restart? [00:17] Doesn't show up in the networking panel icon. [00:17] i'll try that now. [00:18] (I remember when having an all-intel device used to me pretty good luck in Linux distros. Heh.) [00:20] since adding intel firmware, still no wifi, module doesn't show when I grep dmesg, rfkill list all still only shows bluetooth. [00:20] this thread is about a lenovo device: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2382682 [00:21] So I wouldn't even know what to try blacklisting in this case. [00:21] thats weird even the network/wifi icon show [00:21] doesnt [00:22] roadkill: you sure you dont have a switch to enable/disable or so? [00:23] roadkill: and when you installed ubuntu, did setup have an internet connection? [00:25] updated dmesg [00:25] https://pastebin.com/K82QuY2v [00:25] lotuspsychje: Setup did not have an internet connection until I plugged in my USB Ethernet dongle. [00:25] Built-in Wifi was not found/usable during setup. [00:25] There is no physical switch for wifi on this system. [00:26] The hardware simply does not show up. Even when you run rfkill [00:26] roadkill: did any ubuntu recognize your chipset before? [00:27] No. I have only owned this laptop for 4 days. [00:27] Wifi works in Windows10. [00:28] roadkill: i would go for 2 tests, that firmware tomreyn suggested and perhaps play with !mainline higher kernel? [00:28] roadkill: perhaps also consider a new !bug for this special case [00:28] https://pastebin.com/HwK8gQre [00:28] rat@Groundsel:~$ uname -a [00:28] Linux Groundsel 4.15.0-33-generic #36-Ubuntu SMP Wed Aug 15 16:00:05 UTC 2018 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux [00:29] The link that tomreyn provided has no files for this device. [00:29] It's literally brand new. Released Sept 1st [00:29] roadkill: what is the wifi card model? [00:30] though the chipset is a bit older than that you'd think it'd be supported if the same chipset in NUCs run fine. [00:30] Intel Wireless-AC 3165 [00:30] Gemini Lake chipset/SOC [00:30] ecormier: Bluetooth and Wifi are on the same chipset, bluetooth works, wifi doesn't show up at all. [00:31] put it in a drawer, go for holidays for a month or two, get it back from the drawer -> works. [00:31] tomreyn: lol... I have done that before. ;) Unfortunately Bought this thing to use for the holidays due to its size. [00:32] roadkill: did you read this: https://codeyarns.com/2017/02/04/how-to-make-intel-wireless-ac-3165-work-in-ubuntu/ [00:32] so I guess I'll have to use Win10 with it when I'm travelling. [00:32] then attach a wireless dongle or replace the minipci card, in case it's not actually soldered on. [00:32] Yep. Even manually updated the kernel to the newest. Wifi still doesn't exist. [00:32] It's soldered to the motherboard I'm afraid. [00:32] so I guess I'll dongle it. [00:33] did you try the acpi experiments? [00:33] maybe it's really just exposed to windows [00:33] That's my fear. [00:33] then that's what you should try [00:33] Bios even has a southbridge chipset OS setting though. Linux, MSDos, Windows, Android... [00:34] I ran acpi_osi.sh. No changes. [00:35] roadkill: also weird bios doesnt show wifi settings, when its fixxed on mobo? [00:35] what did you end up with in /etc/default/grub ? [00:35] roadkill: mobo up to date also? [00:36] lotuspsychje: there is no software available to download for this system. At all. None. [00:37] tomreyn: I ended up with "GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX=" acpi_osi=! \"acpi_osi=Windows 2015\"" [00:37] roadkill: maybe try an earlier one [00:37] sudo strings /sys/firmware/acpi/tables/DSDT | grep -i windows | sort | uniq -c [00:37] | pastebinit [00:37] the 2015 setting is the only thing that the script seems to offer. [00:38] roadkill: so the comand i just posted only returns a single line of output? [00:38] http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/d6kmVzYsPZ/ [00:39] when I run acpi_osi.sh, it only offers to add Windows 2015 as an option [00:39] right, i twill only use the latest [00:39] you can manually try 2013, 2012 [00:39] ah. change the 2015 down then? [00:39] right [00:40] then update-grub [00:40] rebooting. [00:40] then reboot, check whether it applied (cat /proc/cmdline) [00:40] changed it to 2012 [00:40] then check whether you have new devices in lspci / lsusb [00:41] proc/cmdline checks out. 2012. [00:41] no change in lspci and lsusb [00:42] so it says ... acp_osi=! "acpi_osi=Windows 2012" ... , right? [00:42] correct. [00:43] well, 2013 then, i guess. but that's all i can think of [00:43] loading the module seems to work, hardware still seems to not be found. [00:43] so weird. [00:44] yeah. just gonna have to use Win10 on the trip then. blech. [00:44] I think the 'put it in a drawer for a few months' might be the only way out of this. dunno if intel or the oem did something funky with old hardware in a new way to break it in linux. [00:45] changing the grub line to 2013 yielded no differences. [00:45] :-/ baaad luck. [00:46] yeah. it's usually a safe bet when a device is all intel but... sheesh, not seen something like this in a long time. [00:49] Only other time I ran into something this unsolvable was when I bought a Sony Vaio P... Intel, Atom... but used PowerVR. The end result meant a screen with 30hz refresh and no acceleration. [00:51] roadkill: doesnt make sense nothing shows anywhere, did you check textboot see what happens with network? [00:52] roadkill: your bios hasnt got a 'last state' wifi option somewhere, i seen that block on ubuntu before and work on windows [00:52] roadkill: or netboot options? [00:56] Hi if I create 3 partition on installing ubuntu, swap, / (boot partition), and home partition... If in future I have reinstall ubuntu again, Can I install it without disturbing home partition??? [00:56] I mean I don't want other partition data get deleted... === bs_ is now known as bs [00:59] would anybody outside of europe be so kind to let me ping them? Just mention IP + Continent or Nation. It's for scientific purpouses [00:59] I can clarify why if necessary [01:00] why dont you just do it and skip asking? :) [01:00] it's just ping [01:00] also not related to #ubuntu support [01:00] I had the impression it would be rude? [01:01] tomreyn, also, I wouldn't know what continent/nation? [01:01] /join #ubuntu-offtopic [01:02] lotuspsychje: Sadly, no, not one wifi related option I could see in the bios. And they pretty much left every option unblocked. [01:06] roadkill: F1 texboot see anything? [01:14] @satrioirc am now! [01:14] That was awhile ago. Do you remember what was up? [01:49] so i upgraded from 16 to 18, no issues :D [01:54] excellent. enjoy it. : ) [01:56] is it prefered to install things with snaps [01:56] or use aptitiude [01:57] what problem does snaps solve [01:57] what is the shortcut keys to open the panel that shows all the apps i installed? [01:57] i'm using cupertino panel [02:17] super + k activates some weird animation around my mouse [02:20] 'mouse finder' [02:21] it shows stars as it fades away lol [02:44] Athlon X4 840 Quad Core, two modules 4 cores, fm2+. Need 4 or 2 control cores? https://screenshots.firefox.com/8PixeHdOSoIM3xct/null in image U-Mate. If the Intel processor with Hyper-Threading technology, it's clear to me. Control of logical cores don't need. [04:06] so i have 3 internal drives, sda(linuxOS), sdb(win10) and sdc(storage drive). my internal drives sdb and sdc were being auto mounted just fine and i was able to RW with them. today something changed and they are only mounted as RO. also weird is both of those have never shown up in fstab. [04:06] if i set the drives to RW with a remount, they go back to RO after a reboot. [04:12] lo [04:12] My gnome-terminal text colours are non-default and I want to delete their configs but I can't find it in the usual directories [04:12] I'm on mint btw [04:22] !mint | Ruzzy [04:22] Ruzzy: The Ubuntu channels can only provide support for Ubuntu and its official flavors, since other distributions and derivatives have repository and software changes. So please use their dedicated support venues, for example: Linux Mint (#linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org), Kali Linux (#kali-linux), and LXLE (#lxle) [04:46] turns out is was windows fast boot got enabled somehow. or it was always enabled and only now became an issue. [04:51] RIP nkk71 [05:39] Good Morning. I tried to follow a guide to make a team of network cards for faster network transfers. No i have a Bond0 named network but it doesnt work. Can someone point me to a correct guide to team network cards? i dont even have conexion on the machine i tried and i always have to "if config bond0 down" to recover my conexion (even wifi connected at the same time and not part of that team but no internet). Thank you very much [05:40] wendico, which version of Ubuntu are you running? [05:40] last version full updated fresh install [05:40] and i dont mind to install again [05:40] so 18.04.1? [05:40] yes [05:41] i need a team coz i only have a 100mb switch [05:41] i cant get a 1gb for now [05:41] no my NAS transfers are to slow [05:41] gigabit switches can be had for $10 [05:42] nevertheless not only the switch, my cards are also 10/100 and remember of 3rd world please [05:42] i promise i cant aford [05:43] so your teaming multiple interfaces on internal LAN? [05:44] yes, i want to team 2 interfaces on 2 ubuntu fresh install machines [05:44] i mean 2 on each machine of course [05:44] english 3rd language [05:45] it's no big deal, I'm pretty good at deciphering lol nothing could be worse than my grandmother trying to text lol [05:45] i followed a guide and resulted on having a "Bond0" network interface i can see on if config but i have not connexion, the guide must be wrong so i can start over no problem [05:45] wendico, I've found a couple of guides, but keep in mind if this server is going to be serving DHCP or NAT it could cause issues having multiple interfaces trying to accomplish this at the same time [05:45] could you point me to the correct guide? thank you [05:46] I'll paste the links I've not ever actually tried to create something like this but they look very well written and contain the steps I'd take if I were going to do this [05:46] https://www.tecmint.com/configure-network-bonding-teaming-in-ubuntu/ [05:46] havenstance, dont worry,i want to team on the 2 clients, no server functions [05:46] https://cli.pignat.org/server-18.04-network-bond.html [05:46] Thank you very much, reading on [05:47] I hope you're able to figure it out, my recommendation, when you find a guide that does work with whichever version you're using, bookmark it. Never know when you'll have to do something again lol [05:48] havenstance: thank you very much again. i will do bookmark if working [05:50] btw, so i dont need to start again on my test machine, would you mind to share a command to just delete the Bond0 not working inteface i created? Thank you, if not no problem dont worry i just plain install again and start over [05:52] to be honest, that's something I'm not sure about at all. [05:52] thank you, starting live to start again, dont worry i apreciate the help === Tara_i is now known as Tara [05:57] Other cuestion. i installed ubuntu 18 fresh and updated in 2 laptops of my friends, but their "righ click" on the laptop pad dont work, works also as left click like if they have only one botton. Any clue to solve that? i encounter the problem in two diferent not so old laptops [05:57] one of them i have with me so i could try here to solve it then repeat in my other friend. I must use the keyboard "right click key" all the time [05:58] plugin an external mouse works correct, the problem only with the integrated mouse pad [05:59] both laptops are diferent brands even one is amd other intel but same problem, no right click on integrated laptop pad [06:00] both integrated pad buttons works as left normal click [06:03] i enabled and disabled all options in mouse configuration windows to text if maybe "2 finger scroll" or any of the other options are messing with my right click but no solved, even if i set on that window my right button as primary i still have both buttons as primary click and i cant acomplish "right click" on my laptop pads [06:04] wendico: are you using wayland or xorg? [06:04] my friends are just mad of that and they are trying to get me let them go back to windows [06:05] not sure, reading on it, but i believe xorg [06:05] i am not a profesional just an ubuntu fan [06:07] wendico: I just googled, dunno if this is relevant https://itsfoss.com/fix-right-click-touchpad-ubuntu/ [06:07] reading on it^^^ thank you let me see if is that [06:07] I don't use GNOME myself so I am not too familiar [06:09] also there was a switch from evdev to libinput for touchpad in 18.04 I think? I seem to recall others having troubles with their touchpads with the newer solution [06:12] still reading, im to old, read slow, ill share my findings asap [06:14] meanwhile, why not use gnome? why do u preffer and suggest another desktop enviroment? maybe i should replace gnome aswell [06:14] im installing gnome tewaks allready to try to solve the right click problems [06:20] hateball: right click problem solved with your link, bookmarked also hehe, thank you very very much [06:20] wendico: see also dconf-editor to tweak your things [06:22] lotus|NUC : installing dconf-editor anyways for more tweaks just in case. thank you for the tip [06:24] wow, by the way, i dindt realize is not a problem just a tweak about the right click, i did not know i could right click just by two finger tap, so im reverting the solution since i like even more to right click by two finger tap [06:25] awesome ubuntu! [06:25] thank you mates [06:26] Hi [06:26] i reverted that way so now i can even have mid click by 3 finger tap and my laptop have not mid click so it is awesome the new working mode, [06:27] I'm looking for replacement for redshift Is there any ? [06:27] maybe ubuntu should explain that in the normal mouse configuration window [06:27] someone_: gnome has now nightlight on 18.04 [06:28] so everybody can notice the 2 finger and 3 finget tap without installing gnome tweaks [06:28] someone_: https://alternativeto.net/software/redshift/?platform=linux [06:29] someone_ you can activate nightlight by default on the screen settings no installations need it [06:29] hi, i installed a script using the pip install command. tried to run said script but it terminal says command not found [06:30] i'm installing this https://github.com/kfei/slack-cleaner [06:30] the command "pip list" shows slack-cleaner is installed [06:33] . [06:33] how do i get mobile_c: normally that is part of the package you download -- it should be in the package you downloaded [06:36] mobile_c: where did you get the source files -- github? [06:39] Hey guys! I want install ms word on my Ubuntu machine, how do I do that? [06:39] I already have playonlinux and wine installed [06:40] mohnish_: i use libreoffice -- I wouldn't know -- did you try it with wine? [06:40] blue1: It tells me that I need some sort of file for it [06:41] mohnish_: what file? [06:41] Some iso file to install ms office [06:41] mohnish_: libreoffice can import ms word files. [06:41] ahh [06:42] I think is files are used to install distros right? [06:42] mohnish_: generally [06:43] iso files are normally burned to a dvd or usb -- however there are ways to mount an iso under linux - but in your case -- I don't know where you would find that. [06:43] Oh [06:44] wendico: cool, glad you got it fixed [06:44] wendico: I personally use KDE Plasma, I much prefer it [06:44] my recommendation would be to use libreoffice - it's free -- and works on linux, mac, and windows [06:45] and it can import ms word files [06:47] you can do a sudo apt install libreoffice if you don't like it -- just purge it. [06:57] hateball: thank you very much, reading on kde plasma. i owe you a beer [06:58] wendico: just pay it forward :) [07:02] guys, i am using xubuntu 18.04.1. I wanted to use cairo dock but whenever i am applying this dock then a horizontal transparent strip appears along the dock area. have anybody an idea what is that strip or whether its normal or not? [07:02] is it possible to have an ati card and an nvidia card running at the same time? [07:09] also how do i compile a source file [07:10] downloaded by dep [07:12] the script i downloaded via pip is in ~/.local/bin but terminal says command not found [07:12] what am i doing wrong? [07:12] .dsc * [07:13] cim209: look at the first line of the script [07:13] #!/usr/bin/python [07:13] does that path exist [07:13] no [07:13] then thats why [07:14] how do i fix this? [07:14] wich python [07:14] which python [07:14] regular, not 3 [07:14] $ which python [07:15] 2.7 [07:15] ._. [07:15] cim209: is ~/.local/bin in your PATH? [07:15] yes ducasse [07:15] type "which python" in ur shell [07:15] mobile_c, i also have 3.6.5 installed [07:15] is it set executable? [07:15] oh LOL mobile_c [07:16] it's in /usr/bin/python [07:16] i'll try that [07:16] ducasse, yes, i can run it using python script.py [07:16] how tf does that both exist and not exist [07:16] mobile_c, idk [07:16] probably the fact that i upgraded from 16 to 18 [07:16] [17:13] does that path exist [07:16] [17:13] no [07:17] how is that even possible [07:17] did u actually type "#!/usr/bin/python" itself in the shell [07:18] yeah [07:18] doesn't output anything [07:19] remove the #! [07:19] aka type "/usr/bin/python" [07:19] i'm in the python terminal now [07:19] then it SHOULD work [07:20] when i typed /usr/bin/python slack-cleaner, the command works [07:20] but not slack-cleaner by itself [07:20] paste the output of ./local/bin/script.py [07:21] and "ls -l ./local/bin/script.py" [07:21] https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/6q26rwmmXd/ [07:21] ls -l ~/.local/bin/slack-cleaner [07:21] oops sorry lol [07:22] -rwxrwxr-x [07:22] r u using konversation [07:23] nvm /cmd doesnt post to usr output [07:23] idk what konversation is [07:24] hi, do you know a good PDF editing software ? [07:24] cim209: type "ls -l ./local/bin/script.py" [07:25] for example [07:25] -rwxrwxr-x 1 cim cim 219 Sep 7 00:25 /home/cim/.local/bin/slack-cleaner [07:25] -rwxrwxr-x 1 mobile_c mobile_c 46752 Aug 27 16:49 wrap [07:26] ._. [07:26] of script.py, not of slack-cleaner [07:26] slack-cleaner doesn't have the .py extension [07:29] nvm -_- [07:29] just join #python [07:29] hopefully someone is on [07:47] Hello. How can I determine what components of my Ubuntu desktop are using ghostscript when dealing with PDF files? [07:56] ubuntu14.04> cat /etc/debian_version [07:56] stretch/sid [07:56] Can anyone recommend a better screenshoot app for Ubuntu 18.04? I would like to have the ability to select the area for which I want to make the screenshot. [07:56] #fail [07:57] Silmarlion_ scrot ? [07:57] scrot --select ++ [07:59] Silmarlion_, ubuntu mate has a screenshot app that does that [08:00] though it might be a general ubuntu app [08:01] ok, I will check it [08:02] Silmarlion_, the command for mate is mate-screenshot -i [08:15] xenial desktop. what's a sensible way to save different "Screen Display" settings profiles (i.e. number of monitors, relative placement) and switch between them from the CLI? is this stored in a file or is it gconf or dconf or something? (I'm a bit behind the times with how GUI stuff works under the hood) [08:15] ne2k: xrandr can be used to make changes, but i belive gsettings is how settings are managed now. [08:16] ne2k: that command can be used to make settings changes, such as the GTK theme. [08:16] Silmarlion_, i'm just finding out about https://screencloud.net [08:17] ryuo, so gsettings monitor, then make the changes and see what happens, and then use gsettings set to do it programmatically? [08:17] hmm. what schema to use? [08:17] ne2k: i guess, if that exists. you could also try to find the correct schema and key on your own. [08:17] ne2k: no idea. it varies. [08:18] ne2k: each DE uses a different one. [08:18] cim209, hm screencloud looks promising, and has possibility to store locally store which is good [08:19] ya [08:19] multiple sources too [08:21] ryuo, tried grepping gsettings list-schemas for display, monitor, screen, unity, and still not entirely sure... [08:21] https://imgur.com/fX8snLs [08:22] screenshot works like a macos [08:22] Downside is that it looks like it is not open source, so how can I be completely sure that it doesn't send the photos to some 3rd party site [08:23] ne2k: what about xrandr? [08:23] Silmarlion_, i'm not concerned about where the images go [08:24] ryuo, I need to move the launcher placement too, so was hoping to do it by just automating the thing I currently do manually, rather than using something entirely different. was slightly concerned (from using xrandr before) that they might not play nicely together either, i.e. that doing low level changes with xrandr will confuse the gui part [08:25] Silmarlion_, it is open source https://github.com/olav-st/screencloud [08:25] ne2k: i'm not an expert on unity. all i know is gsettings is how changes are normally applied to GTK environments. [08:25] ne2k: you'd need to explore it yourself to figure out how it ticks. [08:25] ryuo, yup, I suspect it's in there, I'd just like to figure out which schema to look at [08:25] suppose I could just monitor all of them... !! [08:26] GPL2 [08:31] ryuo, gsettings list-schemas |while read schema; do gsettings monitor $schema >$schema.log & done # success! it's org.gnome.desktop.interface and com.ubuntu.user-interface [08:37] how can i convert all output to stdout ... i need to get stdout instead of stderr of command output https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/nWD7kGvvcp/ [08:40] sweb, 2>&1 [08:40] ne2k: did you see my pastebin ? [08:41] sweb, I'm not sure what you're saying with it [08:44] ryuo, hmm. I think it's not storing it all there, unfortunately, the content of those files doesn't seem to be enough to be doing all the changes [08:45] sweb, are you objecting to the fact that it gives a non-zero exit code while appearing not to print anything to stderr? you'd have to take that up with npm [08:46] ne2k: i will try, thnks [08:48] try what? === Richard is now known as Guest4003 [10:11] HI folks [10:20] After an upgrade lately, my Xmodmap setup is gone after resuming from suspend-to-RAM (well, not quite - if I wait for a long time it actually works some 90% of the time - but if I hit any key within some 30 seconds after resume, it is killed). Then running xmodmap $HOME/.Xmodmap it does set my keys back to what I want, but for some strange reason it will not set this line: 'keycode 105 = Pointer_Button2' How [10:20] can I fix this? Or can I move to an alternative to Xmodmap - without changing any files outside my home directory? [11:04] Hi. I have a relatively fresh install of ubuntu 18.04 (about a 2 weeks old now). I noticed when running upgrade I am getting this: https://pastebin.com/W7grRkMB [11:05] I am not sure what it means. I found a few suggestions of commands online to run to fix this, however running blind commands have gotten me into trouble before so I figured I'd ask :) [11:05] I also found a bug report about people having similar issues. It does not seem that that problem has any implication on the system (nto as far as I can see) so I am not sure if I should maybe just ignore it for the time being [11:17] pandaadb: hi. it's good you bring it up, you shouldn't ignore such issues. these are apt dependency resolver issues, which can result in yet more packages (or package updates) becoming uninstallable and your system not getting (all) security patches. [11:18] In that case I may need help fixing them :) [11:18] pandaadb: can you run: sudo /bin/true; pastebinit <( sudo apt-get update 2>&1; echo '*****'; sudo apt-get -f install 2>&1; echo '*****'; apt-cache policy 2>&1; ) [11:19] !pastebinit | pandaadb [11:19] pandaadb: pastebinit is the command-line equivalent of !pastebin - Command output, or other text can be redirected to pastebinit, which then reports an URL containing the output - To use pastebinit, install the « pastebinit » package from a package manager - Simple usage: command | pastebinit [11:21] tomreyn http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/X9JxqNjjSz/ [11:22] pretty much the same problem i have. I like pastbinit though - that I didn;t know [11:24] ok, i haven't seen those TCSAFLUSH errors before, need to look them up [11:25] pandaadb: can you post "dmesg | pastebinit" in the meantime? [11:25] to be honest, thouse are new i think [11:26] sure: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/gvdYkXDRph/ [11:31] * tomreyn looking [11:32] thanks! [11:36] alsa-lib_1.1.6-1.debian.tar.xz? how to install [11:39] pandaadb: so TCSAFLUSH is about terminal functions, used when updating some of its properties. should be of no concern for now. [11:40] ah, i am using terminator and noticed that it has sometimes issues as well [11:40] but it had them from 14 to 16 to 18 [11:40] so i reckon that's just a glitch that happens once a month [11:41] i could try rerunning your command on the default terminal though if that may make a difference? [11:42] pandaadb: oh that's probably the source of these then, yes. so lets focus on the package issues. can you: sudo /bin/false; pastebinit <( sudo dpkg --purge grub-efi-amd64 2>&1; echo '*****'; sudo dpkg --purge grub-efi-amd64-signed 2>&1; ) [11:42] 'that' -> terminator [11:42] http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Kd2Cpzf7KG/ [11:43] (on the default terminal) [11:44] Not sure if relevant: I use snap whenever I can, and apt as the second choice. I also disabled secure boot on BIOS which I think was needed for the nvidia drivers to work [11:45] pandaadb: can you: sudo /bin/false; pastebinit <( sudo dpkg --purge shim-signed grub-efi-amd64 grub-efi-amd64-signed 2>&1; ) [11:46] http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/RYQgRgq9zc/ [11:46] yes, disabling secureboot would be required unless you sign the nvidia modules yourself [11:46] ooi what does `sudo /bin/false` do? [11:47] the removal seems to have worked this time [11:48] okay, this worked out for a change. /bin/false does exactly nothing. but i really meant to use /biin/(true, which does nothing and also doesn't set an error status. the idea of using sudo /bin/true there is just so you can enter your sudop password once before we redirect output to pastebinit [11:48] oh okay, makes sense :) [11:49] how can i install sedutil-cli? [11:50] pandaadb: now to reinstall those packages: sudo /bin/true; pastebinit <( sudo apt install shim-signed grub-efi-amd64-signed 2>&1; ) [11:50] i think we need a -y [11:51] pandaadb: this may be true [11:52] anyone? [11:52] http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/csWrHT5BFC/ [11:52] lyra2: what do you need it for, what does it do? it doesn't seem to be available in ubuntu [11:52] interesting, the TCSAFLUSH came back. I executed this on the default terminal too [11:53] tomreyn: it can list Opal compliant disks [11:54] so it seems to have reinstalled nvidia. I can confirm that nvidia is still my enabled driver [11:54] lyra2: i assume hadparm can do so, too [11:54] * hdparm [11:55] as i understand it does not support nvme [11:55]