[00:15] hi [00:15] need some help, is anyone around? [00:20] !ask | save_me1 [00:20] save_me1: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience [00:20] who wants to know? [00:27] i am trying to run this step but can't seem to get it correct: for dir in /dev /dev/pts /proc /run /sys; [00:27] do mount --bind "$dir" /target/"$dir" [00:30] i am trying to mount my /boot/efi partition so i can correct my grub-efi-32ia in order to fix packages as my system crashed again once it was updating software. it crashed once it got to install grub-efi-32ia [00:30] but when i run the mount command i get this: mount: /boot/efi: special device /dev/mmblk1p1 does not exist. [00:31] even though lsblk -f shows it to me [00:32] hold on that was an error because i forgot to include it as: mmcblk [00:36] i need help with just this command: for dir in /dev /dev/pts /proc /run /sys; do mount --bind "$dir" target/"$dir"; done i get a syntax error because of the $dir but the thing i don't understand is what directory does this guide want me to bind? [00:37] !patience | ghostnik11 [00:37] ghostnik11: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or https://ubuntuforums.org or https://askubuntu.com/ [00:38] pragmaticenigma: sorry bro but i don't feel ignored i just thought i didn't explain it well and i might have confused everyone [00:38] pragmaticenigma: when i first did copy and past it showed up as separate lines of code [00:45] ghostnik11, are you typing that command in or did you put it in a script? there needs to be a "done" to match the "do", if interactive it should give you a ">" prompt to hint it needs more [00:46] ghostnik11, but if in a script you'll just get a error (I think) [00:46] rfm: no i don't have a script. the instructions just said to properly install the bootloader then i must do that [00:47] rfm: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1VTzciobFlp7nO2A_M7RNoqYajN8c9AgR/view [00:48] i want to figure out why my system keeps breaking the grub install when it tries to install grubia32.efi [00:50] rfm: before i was able with the help of others here and also following instructions from the google plus t100 ubuntu group able to fix it and properly install lubuntu and have grub working but just doing software update from gui broke it. i thought the system knew where to install grub properly. i feel like it doesn't know where exactly to check [00:55] rfm: i hope this doesn't completely break the entire system but i went into /boot/efi and changed the file: "startup.nsh" by editing it and putting at the end grubia32.efi. as i noticed when i first opened it it had fs0:\EFI\ubuntu\grubx64.efi so i changed the ending to grubia32.efi because thats what i believe my system should be pointing to in order to work [00:55] rfm: i did do a back up of the original file first of course [00:55] i bet i could startup 100 efis [00:56] nsh: you think it will start a 100 efis!!! like its going to break the system. because i am about to run the command to clean all the packages and see if it will install to the correct place now [00:57] no, i was just making a joke because you accidentally highlighted me :) [00:58] nsh oh okay cool === katamo is now known as katamo|away [01:06] rfm: it froze when i tried to sudo dpkg -a and it got to installing grub-32ia-efi [01:06] nsh: well it didn't break it completely but i didn't fully solve my problem [01:08] i think the solution i didn't do was sudo update-grub [01:13] how do i compile a package downloaded with dget [01:13] so in terminal it won't me purge grub with the following command: sudo apt-get purge grub-common grub-pc tells me i have to do: E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem [01:14] eg "dget -u http://ppa.launchpad.net/flosoft/cross-apple/ubuntu/pool/main/a/apple-uni-boost/apple-uni-boost_1.55-0flosoft2.dsc" [01:14] ghostnik11: then do that [01:14] but problem is when i run sudo dpkg --configure -a, the system freezes once it tries to install grub-32ia-efi [01:15] that should not happen [01:15] mobile_c: its going to freeze, the system i am assuming can't figure out that the correct place for where grub-32ia-efi should go is at /dev/mmcblk1p1 /boot/efi [01:15] so? [01:16] the system should NOT freeze because of something that apt/dpkg cant figure out === semeion is now known as mnemonic [01:16] mobile_c: i have a 2 in 1 pc device that came with a 32bit uefi on a 64bit cpu [01:16] if it did then all applications that seg fault would instantly freeze the pc wich is stupid [01:17] unless it is a kernel module in wich case would cause a panic crash in the kernel [01:17] mobile_c: it freezes, is there something i can do to run like a log and track when i run the command to fix the packages. to see what exactly is freezing the system. i think it has something to do with the grub-32ia-efi [01:18] starace it [01:18] strace* [01:18] mobile_c: or its the fact that it freezes when it says: installing for i386-efi platform [01:19] mobile_c: hey i never even knew such a thing existed like strace!! i am going to try to do it and have it check what goes on while the command runs === Blade is now known as vanko [01:38] mobile_c: it even froze with strace command [01:39] mobile_c: just got chance to reboot [01:41] anyone familar with UKUU ? it installs mainline kernel on ubuntu. I am running 18.04 LTS on 4.18.6 [01:41] pdkl: what is your question? [01:41] boots fine, does h ave a crypti error regarding nvidia tainting the kernel [01:41] nvidia does tain the kernel, since it's proprietary [01:42] "PKCS#7 signature not signed with a trusted key" [01:42] do i care? [01:42] that's about a secureboot signature [01:42] i mean that error should i care? [01:42] if you want to do secureboot you should care, otherwise not [01:42] driver works and rocketleague is accelerated [01:42] ok [01:45] ghostnik11: if your system really freezes (does it really, can you not switch to a different tty, can you not use magic sysrq?) your options to log any outputs are netconsole and serial console. [01:46] tomreyn: i thought strace could follow it and would stop it before it crashed. [01:47] strace wont stop anything from happening, no, it just reports what's happening. [01:48] tomreyn: would the system still have what last happened before i had to hard reset by turning off and on my device? like is there something that everything is monitored in the background of my system [01:49] there's /var/log/syslog which the system logging daemon writes to. [01:50] however, if the kernel locks up while the disk write buffer had not been flushed, yet, the data in there is lost [01:51] that's where magic sysrq + s (sync) can help, if the kernel hasnt actually locked up but is just hung [01:51] tomreyn: how so i will just do a copy and past of /var/log/syslog because when it crashes as a test i have music playing and all i hear when it crashes is the repeat of the last sentence of the song [01:52] tomreyn: meant to say i can just do a copy and paste of /var/log/syslog [01:53] i don't understand why you'd want to create a copy? [01:53] tomreyn: so it would be useless for this. okay then i will go with the magic sysrq [01:54] tomreyn: so once i go into that screte mode i can just run sudo dpkg --configure -a [01:54] are you saying that a part of the audio track you're playing keeps looping ifinitely when the kernel freezes / locks up while you're installing grub? [01:54] 'screte mode'? [01:55] tomreyn: yeah thats what happens when i tell system to clean up the mess and it reaches the point that it has to install grub-32ia-efi [01:56] tomreyn: yeah this magic sysrq is a secrete mode from what i read on wikipedia, its like a secrete key selection that will allow me to see whats happening once i run the command with it [01:56] tomreyn: or within it [01:56] !sysrq [01:56] In an emergency, you may be able to shutdown cleanly and reboot by holding down Alt+PrintScreen and typing slowly, in succession, R, E, I, S, U and B. For an explanation, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key [01:57] it's not secret, it's just not as widely knows as ctrl-alt-delete [01:57] *known [01:59] effectively you just need to press s (ideally two times with a few seconds pause afterwards), then u for unmount (and wait again a few seconds), the b for boot. [01:59] R E I are disabled anyways. [01:59] tomreyn: okay i am on lbuntu 18.04 and read that it might be disabled by default [02:00] So, my "search your computer" button is broken. 16.04. How do I fix it? [02:00] ghostnik11: just those three characters, as far as i know [02:02] I type disk, nothing shows up. [02:04] tomreyn: okay that was like a fast roller coaster but i get it now, i run the command that makes the system freeze then run the magic sysrq [02:04] tomreyn: i actually just did the button combination and i was zapped out of the system like someone pulled a chair from under me and i fell through ground [02:05] tomreyn: okay i will run the command sudo dpkg --configure -a and when it freezes i will do the magic sysrq [02:05] searching "files and folders" works. but when I search "applications" nothing comes up. [02:06] Even when i search for "all" applications (blank search), nothing shows up. [02:07] ghostnik11: you shouldnt use these buttons in normal operation. and yes, SUB still work on 18.04.1 [02:07] tomreyn: after i reboot i can then check var/log for what happens? [02:07] tomreyn: i want to know where i the log will be of what the system was last doing when it crashed? [02:07] ghostnik11: i'm not entirely convinced (rather not so much) that you'll be able to capture much more on syslog, though. [02:08] tomreyn: lol [02:08] what makes you laugh? [02:08] tomreyn: well its worth a try, but i must say that was pretty cool!!! the button combination because i never knew ubuntu had such things built in [02:09] if you like this, you'd love a serial console. [02:11] ghostnik11: can you post dmesg before you reboot, i could then get a better idea of the system you're working with. [02:11] dmesg | pastebinit [02:34] why does the "search your computer" default to files and folders? and when i click applications; it does nothing.? === med_ is now known as medberry [02:35] PLLunlock: your ubuntu version please? [02:35] 16.04 [02:36] PLLunlock: up to date to latest? [02:36] dunno. [02:36] PLLunlock: lsb_release -a should show .5 [02:37] Ubuntu 16.04.5 LTS [02:37] PLLunlock: ok great mate [02:38] PLLunlock: so can you define what you are trying to do, you try to search files on your computer from startbutton? [02:39] yeah the top left button. I don't know how else i would find things like disk usage analyzer. [02:40] PLLunlock: are you in the right category at the bottom of your dash? you see all small icons there [02:41] yes, applications. [02:41] files and folders works as expected. [02:42] PLLunlock: so on applications you can unfold more apps, by clicking 'see more' [02:42] it use to default to applications, now it comes up to files and folders. [02:43] PLLunlock: i think it uses what you last chosen [02:44] when i click "applications" i get a blank window that says "sorry, there is nothing that matches your search". [02:44] PLLunlock: thats probably because you enter a keyword for search? can you erase? [02:44] there is no "recently used", "installed", or dash plugins. just nothing. [02:45] PLLunlock: normal procedure, you click the white applications icon at bottom, then click 'see more applications' at top to view them all [02:46] hmmm, no just zero applications. [02:46] PLLunlock: https://timenews.ro/media/Unity-ubuntu.png see here, installed: see more results [02:47] PLLunlock: make sure your in the right category ok [02:47] yup, that what it looks like when it's working. which it isn't anymore. [02:48] PLLunlock: can you make a screenshot for us please [02:48] PLLunlock: imgur.com or so [02:48] how do i find the snapshot thingy without search? [02:49] PLLunlock: just press prnt scr button [02:50] cool. windows can't do that. [02:51] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/372380640357646336/487817106209898506/unknown.png [02:52] PLLunlock: thats weird indeed, did you try a reboot yet? [02:53] yeah, it's been broke for days. [02:53] PLLunlock: did you try it without a search? [02:53] PLLunlock: cause right now it says, no matches found [02:54] that's witha blank search. i.e. everything. [02:55] my other identical system still works fine. [02:56] PLLunlock: did you recently uninstall things likes scopes or something? [02:58] I don't recall. [03:00] PLLunlock: what happens when you: sudo apt-get install unity-scope-home [03:00] i removed the activity log manager. it sounded kinda privacy leaky. [03:01] "Zeitgeist is a service which logs the user's activities and events (files opened, websites visited, conversations held with other people, etc.) and makes the relevant information available to other applications." [03:02] PLLunlock: ah that might be related, try reinstalling zeitgeist [03:02] PLLunlock: that manages all the history [03:03] I don't need history thanks. [03:03] PLLunlock: zeisgeist does not leak data with external [03:03] PLLunlock: you can also disable history from system settings in unity.. [03:04] PLLunlock: removing zeitgeist can scramble things up, like youe xperience now [03:04] i'm seeing that. [03:05] PLLunlock: here's system settings you can disable: https://i.stack.imgur.com/QOCgX.png [03:08] THis is very reminescent of when i disabled windows search indexer. It DISABLED all searches, indexed or not. [03:08] PLLunlock: you cannot compare this the same as windows mate [03:09] PLLunlock: but no problem, its your users choice to remove zeitgeist [03:09] it seems to be a necessary but uninstallable part of the OS. [03:10] PLLunlock: not really if you dont want to [03:10] PLLunlock: but logical, when you remove zeitgeist you wont be able to search/find/history things properly anymore [03:11] PLLunlock: you still got a terminal to find things :p [03:12] I'm kinda new to the glorious Ubuntu world. still feeling my way around the terminal. [03:12] sudo apt-get install zeitgeist [03:12] tomreyn: hey yeah it doesn't work magic sysrq!! [03:12] tomreyn: i ran the command and it froze the system and when i tried the button combination it would not restart like it did before when i ran the command [03:12] PLLunlock: if you are new, and still need more GUI its advisable you reinstall zeitgeist yes [03:14] I much prefer an application tree rather than having to search everytime i need an app. I don't enjoy the mouse-to-keyboard-to-mouse-keyboard transitions. [03:14] ghostnik11: so the kernel really locks up there. [03:15] !info classicmenu-indicator xenial | PLLunlock try this [03:15] PLLunlock try this: classicmenu-indicator (source: classicmenu-indicator): indicator showing the main menu from Gnome Classic. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.10.1-0ubuntu1 (xenial), package size 27 kB, installed size 280 kB [03:16] tomreyn: yeah i guess. but i first want to know how i can purge grub without it telling me that i to do dpkg --configure -a, because the system will crash. if i can purge it then tell it where to correctly install grub then i can run dpkg --configure -a [03:17] tomreyn: also i want to see if i can install boot-repair and try that way!! but i feel like the system is going to tell me i need to correct the mess first [03:17] tomreyn: can i do that, or can i tell the system not to install grub? [03:18] reinstalling zeit didn't work. [03:20] PLLunlock, maybe you have to log out and login to make it reload [03:23] uh back again. for some reason logging out stops all my apps. [03:24] lotuspsychje: thanks, all my pretty icons are back. [03:24] marcodiego: thanx logging out worked. [03:25] PLLunlock, if you don't want to stop your apps, just lock the screen instead: ctrl+alt+l [03:25] ghostnik11: with uefi booting, grub installs to /boot/efi/EFI/ubuntu/ and (usually) loads its configuration from /boot/grub/grub.cfg [03:26] tomreyn: yeah which is normal but for some reason for these devices asus t100's there are problems with this [03:26] PLLunlock: welcome [03:26] ghostnik11: but 32-bit uefi is a terrible non standard that should never have existe din the first place, and i can't help make it work. [03:26] tomreyn: i have checked the folders with efi and the stuff are there so i don't understand why it keeps crashing the system [03:27] tomreyn: oh i know, and i agree it was designed to keep people who own a device from not putting other os, but thats just how the world works. [03:28] tomreyn: i don't understand why the regular way needed to be changed to this uefi garbage, because on devices like mine, they made sure to limit the bios to only have this uefi, i don't have a legacy mode in the bios and also can only turn off or on the uefi option [03:30] I'm trying to leave win. but Ubuntu is getting kinda Windowsy. [03:32] I'm not sure in what way Ubuntu could be compared to Windows, but there are plenty of other distros out there. Even other flavors of Ubuntu that do things a bit differently [03:32] PLLunlock: you cannot generalize such statement [03:32] tomreyn: i am trying to get boot-repair and now it showing while doing just this part: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:yannubuntu/boot-repair that their is a timeout was reached error? [03:32] tomreyn: is that because i have broken packages [03:34] PLLunlock, elaborate more [03:34] When, over time, common tasks take more and more mouse clicks and typing. That is a sign of an OS getting WORSE not better. [03:34] Sounds like your beef is with GNOME, not Ubuntu [03:34] could be. [03:35] PLLunlock, searching by typing is way faster using the keyboard. Searching by typing is not really good for people who overuse the mouse [03:35] tomreyn: from grub 2.0 can i run the dpkg --configure -a like say from advance options? [03:36] PLLunlock, my recommendation is: if you over-use the mouse, lock you favourite apps to the launcher [03:36] ghostnik11: probably a network timeout, but you will need to post actual error messages and provide context (full command run, full output) if you'd like someone to comment. i'm heading to bed now. maybe have a look at this, tit describes how one can boot a system like yours: http://www.jfwhome.com/2014/03/07/perfect-ubuntu-or-other-linux-on-the-asus-transformer-book-t100/ - good luck. [03:36] PLLunlock, any specific task that you'd like to do more efficiently? [03:37] marcodiego: I did put a few apps on the launcher, but its full now. :-( [03:37] tomreyn: thanks bro for all the help. have a good night. and yeah that was the original, instructions but the systems have evolved since then due to the fact that these newer versions don't function well with grub [03:38] I was very fond of [Windows][E] to bring up the file explorer. [03:38] Possibly in relation to ghostnik11's issue, I also had to run "dpkg --configure -a" when attempting to install updates about 12 hours ago [03:39] It prompted me to run the command, I ran the command, then tried to update again. It worked. But I'm notsure why I had to do that [03:39] PLLunlock, I don't if there is a shortcut for the file manager, but ctrl+alt+t bring the terminal [03:39] It may have been related to the apport update? [03:39] Kon-: did yours work? [03:39] Yes [03:40] Kon-: yeah mine failed during a system update with gui but it stopped and froze when it got to the part about installing grub-32ia-efi [03:40] I use CTRL ALT T a lot. very handy. and I just noticed ALT tab has the same functionality. Good show! [03:40] My updates didn't even initialize before the prompt to reconfigure dpkg [03:40] PLLunlock, would this work for you: https://askubuntu.com/questions/692880/keyboard-shortcut-to-open-ubuntu-file-manager ? [03:41] Kon-: oh, yeah i think i might have just found a potential solution to my problem: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/1269190 [03:41] Launchpad bug 1269190 in grub2 (Ubuntu) "package grub-efi-amd64 2.00-13ubuntu3 failed to install/upgrade: subprocesso script post-installation instalado retornou erro do status de saída 1" [Undecided,New] [03:43] marcodiego: that works well! [03:44] okay so i don't have a grub-pc on my system? because when i run the command sudo debconf -show grub-pc nothing shows up in terminal [03:44] then where would grub be located? [03:44] !grub | ghostnik11 [03:44] ghostnik11: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 [03:45] PLLunlock, my suggestion, if you're an advanced user (or willing to be one), you'll soon see that file managers are not an efficient way to manage files. I suggest you to get used to the command line if you want efficiency [03:45] ghostnik11: why dont you make your life easy, reinstall fresh, ubuntu takes 30min to reinstall? [03:45] lotuspsychje: i think i know why because i changed the startup.nsh file? [03:46] the what [03:46] PLLunlock, eg: I plug a pendrive on my computer, just type "cp file.pdf /media/.../ && umont /media/...." and that's all [03:47] lotuspsychje: do you know many changes i made!! and also this is the device i use to study for my boards!!! which is what i am doing now, i was just updating, in like a few days i will be back at school. i don't want to reinstall from the start, i made a lot of intricate changes to customize it to be perfect device to only have one focus and thats board preparation [03:47] marcodiego: well i find the file manager to be a nice way to find things quickly. especially when I don't know where they are in the file system. I'm sure I'll migrate to command line for many tasks. but for now I'm learning. [03:47] PLLunlock, learn to use "locate" and "find". Way faster. No need to mouse-click anything [03:48] PLLunlock, locate is particularly simple: "locate *.mp3", for example [03:48] like my senility causes me to forget where i placed something and what I called it. so I'll do a find and sort by time to see what i did recently. [03:48] lotuspsychje: in /boot/efi there is a file called startup.nsh i changed the ending of that file to grub-32ia-efi but i will change it back since i made a backup and see if that works when i try to run debconf -show grub-pc [03:49] I'm sick and tired of typing ls -l every time i go up or down a dir. [03:50] PLLunlock, use tree [03:50] PLLunlock, tree|less you help a lot [03:51] nice, but not installed by default. [03:51] PLLunlock, also if you're ls'ing all the time, that means your needing to "see" what is there. Why such a frequent need? [03:51] PLLunlock, just an apt-get away ;) [03:51] ghostnik11: wait up for eric^ to wakeup, he's our uefi specialist [03:51] the file structure confounds me. [03:51] PLLunlock, also, learn to use completion [03:52] PLLunlock, try this on the terminal: press "ctr+r" then "l" then enter [03:53] PLLunlock, your confusion probably caused by the habit of using filemanagers and always seen what is on the current directory. Once you learn more efficient ways, that habit will go away [03:55] lotuspsychje: well i will keep searching for a solution until he comes back. thats the beauty about life: learn, adapt and overcome. i will keep trying till i can't try anymore [03:55] PLLunlock, ctr+r is bash reverse search. Get used to it. It is a great productivity boost [03:55] yes, it's that and the other problem is I'm used to programs and their support files being in one place. [03:55] marcodiego: I'm writing all these down. [03:57] PLLunlock, also, the idea of a program with all their files in one dir is an habit. Think: not everything is exactly a program; it may libs, frameworks, resource... There are good reasons for their files to be not all in a single place. So, don't think about programs and where they are installed. Think about *packages* and that they're installed on the system [03:58] PLLunlock, by been packages, that should be managed by the *package manager*. That is why the package manager is called package manager, it manages packages [03:58] yeah, packages are sprayed into every directory. [03:58] PLLunlock, I suggest you to install and use synaptic, to get used to the idea [03:59] PLLunlock, if you ever need to know the files a package use "dpkg -L" [04:00] PLLunlock, but remember that that is a package manager's task, not yours [04:01] I did install synaptic. I like it, the ubuntu software search tool is very limited. [04:03] PLLunlock, package management is on of the strongest reasons I opted for gnu/linux in the beginning. I looked so advanced and practical. It took around 2 decades for other OS'es to develop similar features (in the form of stores) [04:03] PLLunlock, also, you're on a possible good new era: snaps and flatpacks are get more popular by the day; try them [04:07] hmmm [04:07] my last text got eaten by the server [04:13] it was just a rant on how confounding bin, sbin and all the variations like the two root versions, usr, and usr-local. === hays_ is now known as hays [04:21] back? [04:24] ami back? [04:25] PLLunlock, you shouldn't care much about what is out of your home directory. Leave that to the package manager and other system software [04:27] of all the dirs on my root, the only ones I regularly use are /etc/, /tmp/ and /media/ [04:27] So it it proper to do git clones to the home dir? [04:28] PLLunlock, yes. They are your files, the rest of the system shouldn't even know about them === Blade is now known as Dreaman [04:29] PLLunlock, my suggestion: create a "dev" directory in your home, and git clone there. Then you will know where your cloned projects are [04:30] how do I create icons on my desktop to launch things? [04:31] PLLunlock, if you're using the latest ubuntu version, I think you'll need an extension for that [04:31] using 16.04 i see drag-n-drop works. [04:32] I'm only using 16.04 because i couldn't find gnuradio in the ubuntu software tool. i was under the impression that it was for finding software. [04:33] in 18.04 [04:33] PLLunlock, Also, consider if this (desktop icon) is really a good habit. You have the launcher, terminal, searching and probably other ways to launch your apps. Desktop icons are only visible if all windows are minimized [04:34] there's a "show desktop" button [04:34] PLLunlock, that basically minimizes all windows: inefficient [04:35] true. I'use the workspace functionality more if it was one click instead of 2. [04:38] PLLunlock, that single click would probably be no faster than opening it using the command line. Specially if you can use ctr+r [04:39] PLLunlock, you can use "xdg-open file" to open a file with its associated program [04:39] it's a graphical program I'd have to transition to mouse anyways. [04:40] PLLunlock, as an example: if I plug a pendrive and I know that it has a document.pdf in its root, I just type: "xdg-open /media/marco/[....]/document.pdf" and that's all [04:41] no need to click, no need to search, no need to use a file manager and I just press some keys since autocompletion makes most of the command and paths for me [04:42] that is handy to know all of those incantations. [04:43] PLLunlock, once you get used to it, you will start to question why did you live so long using file managers, clicking things and with icons on the desktop [04:43] open .pdf ext drive would make more sense [04:43] :-) [04:44] PLLunlock, note, filemanagers have their place and usefulness, clicking too; but I think they're much overused [04:47] is the firewall on by default in ubuntu? [04:54] uh no it's not [05:03] well the common ports are closed but traffic is not dropped, it is rejected. [05:05] any tips on avoiding "dependency hell"? === Dreaman is now known as ggdgdfgdhdhdf === ggdgdfgdhdhdf is now known as jakcyyy === jakcyyy is now known as Dreaman === Dreaman is now known as Blade [05:11] Hi all... this awk adds a newline to the output. can anyone help me get it without the newline? svn info http://svn.mechsim.local/svn/mech-sim/trunk/VehicleSim | grep Revision: | awk -F' ' '{print $2}' [05:12] can anyone help with this: https://pastebin.com/38MH8JT7 [05:20] jellycode: you could probably try cut -d' ' -f 2 instead of the awk command [05:20] The subversion command is throwing a name/service not known error for me so I can't test it, though [05:22] sorry, that url is bad [05:22] thanks [05:26] okay so i just ran: grub-install --removable and for the first time it did this: Installing for i386-efi platform. Installation finished. No error reported. is that safe to say that i can now do sudo dpkg --configure -a and the system wont freeze or can i run a test to see if everything is working properly? [05:27] jellycode: or you could probably just pipe it all into head -n -1 [05:27] which removes the last line [05:29] assuming there's only one newline at the end, not for every entry [05:32] is latest ubuntu using kernel 4.18? [05:32] install manuall [05:33] what is the problem [05:33] what was that cut command again? [05:33] PLLunlock, wrt dependency hell, You won't have to care about it unless your compiling things [05:33] much of the software i deal with doesn't have packages [05:39] okay it seems like my grub is failing because of this from the pastebin https://pastebin.com/8kM3GdyV [05:43] jellycode: `cut -d' ' -f 2` [05:43] thx [05:45] when i get to installing for i386-efi platform it says could not delete variable: no space left on device then error: efibootmgr failed to register the boo=i386-efit entry:block device required. failed: grub-install --target [05:59] PLLunlock, how are you installing them? [06:02] compiling making and installing [06:02] hunting down dependencies when it doesn't qork. [06:03] rinse repeat [06:16] PLLunlock: we dont support compiling here, instead we reccomend installing packages from the official ubuntu repos [06:18] okay i have finally made some progress just ran this: sudo apt-get install grub-efi-ia32 grub-efi-ia32-bin [06:19] and it shows that grub-efi-ia32-bin set to manually installed and its asking me if i should have the following packages removed: shim? [06:22] but the "ubuntu software" button on has access to a tiny portion of the available software. [06:22] PLLunlock, that's not easy for a beginner. Can you give some examples of software you had to build yourself? [06:22] PLLunlock: apt-cache search your-package [06:22] gr-ofdm [06:23] https://github.com/rwth-ti/gr-ofdm [06:24] rtlamr https://github.com/bemasher/rtlamr [06:24] !info gr-radar | PLLunlock [06:24] PLLunlock: gr-radar (source: gr-radar): GNU Radio Radar Toolbox. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.0.0.20161018-3build1 (bionic), package size 350 kB, installed size 3277 kB [06:26] PLLunlock, it may be hard to (eventually) avoid dependency hell. Only recommendation I can give you is to keep your system as close as possible to the one of the developers of the tools you need. [06:27] PLLunlock, "apt-cache search ofm" maybe your friend [06:29] PLLunlock, I mean "apt-cache search ofdm" [06:30] hmmm. packaged? [06:32] PLLunlock, not sure if it is the same thing you need. [06:33] where is it looking for these? [06:33] hi [06:34] oh these are the parts that come with gnuradio. [06:34] boritek: hi! [06:35] I have tearing on video playback on Ubuntu 18.04 with dedicated nvidia card GTX 770 (no optimus, cpu i7-4820k) with nvidia closed driver [06:36] why is that and how can I fix it? [06:36] most people complaining about it are on laptops, but i am not === CyberHacker_ is now known as CyberHacker [06:41] boritek: driver version please? [06:41] boritek: driver version please? [06:45] lotus|NUC: driver version is: 396.54 [06:46] boritek: what does your system propose on: ubuntu-drivers list ? [06:47] nvidia-driver-390 [06:47] nvidia-driver-396 [06:47] nvidia-340 [06:47] boritek: ok tnx, i would try a 390.77 [06:49] lotus|NUC: in my repo the latest 390 is 390.87 [06:49] boritek: you can also try the first suggestion in this link, afaik it often fixes tearing. note the 'edit:' https://askubuntu.com/questions/760712/how-do-i-remove-screen-tearing-in-16-04-with-nvidia-gtx-960-m [06:54] this didnt help: nvidia-settings --assign CurrentMetaMode="nvidia-auto-select +0+0 { ForceFullCompositionPipeline = On }" [06:55] ducasse: i guess this is also something related to optimus and laptop tearing only? [06:55] i have dedicated nvidia card [06:56] boritek: 396 is more for gtx 1050 and 1060 [06:56] boritek: try 390.77 from the ubuntu graphics ppa [06:57] boritek: no, it's for desktops as well [06:58] lotus|NUC: ok, i will try it again, i used 390 generally but installed the latest after Steam play / proton announced [06:58] boritek: so you had a working 390? [06:58] i dont remember how video playback was there, but will let you know [06:59] boritek: if something works, stay at it :p [07:04] installed, rebooting [07:07] re [07:07] 390 has got tearing as well :( [07:28] boritek: did you try what ducasse suggested? [07:36] lotus|NUC: sorry I guess yes, but i cannnot read back because of my reboot [07:36] what was the suggestion exactly? [07:36] https://askubuntu.com/questions/1029926/ubuntu-18-04-after-installing-nvidia-graphics-drivers-still-getting-lag [07:37] boritek: https://www.cmscritic.com/stop-screen-tearing-with-optimus-laptops-using-nvidia-drivers-in-linux/ [07:39] ghostnik11: EriC^^ is in the house [07:39] i tried earlier something like this that didnt work, i guess because it is for optimus [07:39] EriC^^: hey bro, i have tried everything to work!!! and defeat this messed up uefi grub. been working now for 7 hours straight [07:39] EriC^^: here is a pastebin. i just got: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/khWXKQ7XYg/ [07:40] boritek: are you on 390.77 right? not 390.48? [07:41] lotus|NUC: i felt like i was in a heavy weight fight with mike tyson in his prime. this damn stupid grub-efi problem almost knocked me out and had me wanting to quit [07:41] lotus|NUC: im on 390.87 [07:41] boritek: from wich ppa? [07:42] ghostnik11: patience EriC^^ will help when he has time [07:43] lotus|NUC: http://ppa.launchpad.net/graphics-drivers/ppa/ubuntu [07:43] for bionic [07:44] lotus|NUC: okay cool i think i am going to go to bed. is it okay to come check back after i get some rest? [07:44] boritek: ok, i see they highered the 390 version, your good [07:45] ghostnik11: #ubuntu is 24/7..its always good to come back [07:45] boritek: try the trick from options nvidia_drm modeset=1 [07:46] lotus|NUC: well yeah i know that. i am asking if he will be on when i come back!! our time zones are probably different. also i want him to explain why it keeps crashing. so that when i am back in school if it crashes again i can fix it without internet b/c back in school we don't have access to internet easily [07:47] lotus|NUC: anyhow bro, thanks for the help i will back after getting some good rest [07:47] ghostnik11: not my decision mate [07:48] lotus|NUC: lol, later bro [07:48] kk [07:49] boritek: just curious, your system up to date to latest also? [07:49] boritek: which desktop is this? [07:53] lotus|NUC: yes i always keep my system uptodate [07:54] ducasse: ubuntu 18.04 [07:54] lotus|NUC: i tried already nvidia_drm modeset=1 earlier and it didnt help :( [07:55] boritek: uname -a please? [07:55] 4.15.0-33-generic #36-Ubuntu SMP Wed Aug 15 16:00:05 UTC 2018 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux [07:58] yeah looks good boritek [08:01] boritek: lets make a new bug for you [08:03] boritek: can you test something else first, try wayland instead of xorg? [08:04] lotus|NUC: yes, i need to go soon though for about 1hour but i can check that later. Just write me what to test exactly [08:04] boritek: that done with log out, then when enter your username, click the gear icon ubuntu(on wayland) [08:04] and test the tearing there [08:07] i tested it quickly before I go, the issue is that i cannot even login on a wayland session [08:08] and strangely there are 2 Xorg sessions [08:09] boritek: hmm thats weird indeed, did you clean install or upgrade to 18.04? [08:09] i did upgrade [08:10] ah [08:10] boritek: this you can also try, a liveusb 18.04.1 to see [08:11]