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RoyKthe graph at the bottom of https://cilium.io/blog/2018/04/17/why-is-the-kernel-community-replacing-iptables/ tells me bpfilter is a wee bit faster ;)00:01
trippeh_until there is anything actually working, I woulnt place much trust in that graph.00:02
RoyKnah00:02
RoyKbut it looks promising, though00:03
trippeh_also features (eg feature-parity) ends up slowing things down ;)00:03
trippeh_BPF also took quite a hit with Spectre00:04
RoyKheh00:04
trippeh_(of course that is hopefully temporary)00:04
RoyKbugs come and go00:05
Hell-RazorHey fellas, quick question -- wastomcat removed from the server repos?00:05
Hell-Razortomca700:05
RoyK,v wastomcat00:05
* RoyK thought he was at #debian 00:06
Hell-RazorSorry I dont know why I cant type tonight - was tomcat7 removed from the repos00:06
Hell-RazorRoyK its for school,00:06
RoyK!tomcat00:06
trippeh_Hell-Razor: seems to be available on Ubuntu 16.0400:07
Hell-RazorAh maybe I am just running the wrong version00:08
RoyKseems tomcat8 is in 18.0400:08
trippeh_"wrong" as in newer Ubuntu versions only ship tomcat800:08
Hell-Razorapt search tomcat brings up nothing00:09
RoyKHell-Razor: have you enabled universe/multiverse?00:09
RoyKiirc there's a bug with those repos not being enabled after installation, only main00:09
Hell-RazorHow would I do that?00:10
RoyKHell-Razor: check /etc/apt/sources.list00:10
Hell-RazorIll just reinstall. School wants tomcat7 installed. Were probably going to break whats patched in 800:12
Hell-Razorinstall 16.04*00:12
RoyKno need to reinstall00:12
RoyKjust find a repo00:12
Hell-RazorWill do00:13
trippeh_RoyK: I'm hoping bpfilter will make my skill of hand optimizing iptables rulesets obsolete00:42
RoyKtrippeh_: hehe00:47
lordievaderGood morning05:55
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zioprotohello, I have a problem with git://git.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-server-dev/ubuntu/+source/neutron today, it is super slow11:28
zioprotois there any known problem in the infrastructure ?11:28
zioprotopinging coreycb and jamespage ;)11:29
zioprotoI am chasing a Neutron Ocata bug... trying to build Xenial packages today. If I fix it I will send a merge request on LP11:30
zioprotoThe bug is already fixed back to Pike. I am talking about https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/162845511:30
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1628455 in neutron "openvswitch native bridge implementation redefines delete_flows with a different signature" [Medium,Fix released]11:30
zioprotoit will take a while like this:11:34
zioprotohttps://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/4kGmkJfy/11:35
zioprotois it normal that commands like:12:14
zioprotodebcheckout --git-track='*' neutron12:14
zioprotodont work anymore ? I even upgraded to Bionic my building server because I thought that was the problem12:15
zioprotocoreycb: are you around ? I am having an hard time with pristine-tar and neutron_10.0.7.orig.tar.gz13:22
jamespagezioproto: hey - not sure let me look13:26
zioprotoso it looks like a generic problem with pristine-tar and xdelta313:27
zioprotoI moved to bionic13:27
zioprotoI should correct versions for pristine-tar tar and xdelta313:27
zioprotoI have tar 1.29b-2 pristine-tar 1.4213:28
zioprotoxdelta3 3.0.11-dfsg-1ubuntu113:28
zioprotohttps://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/1X9w6Sbk/13:29
zioprotoI am actually not able to checkout any tarball13:29
zioprotoI tried with master13:29
zioprotoI have the same problem. Now I am working in branch stable/ocata13:29
zioprotoI cloned the neutron repo from git://git.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-server-dev/ubuntu/+source/neutron13:30
zioprotosteps to reproduce:13:30
zioprotopristine-tar -v checkout neutron_10.0.7.orig.tar.gz13:30
zioprotojamespage: when you have time tell me if you can reproduce the bug13:33
jamespagezioproto: ok - still in my pj's atm13:33
zioprotoI was able to download the file with 'pull-uca-source neutron ocata'13:33
jamespagewill take a look later13:33
zioprotoOK, I found a workaround, but this should be checked if it is a bug or not, Thanks13:34
jamespagezioproto: not sure if its my hotel wifi connection or not but a git pull is slow13:34
zioprotojamespage: yes, read the IRC history. Today is damn slow, I was complaining about it earlier13:35
jamespagezioproto: I'm not able to reproduce your pristine-tar/checkout issue for 10.0.713:36
jamespagegbp buildpackage -S -d dtrt13:36
zioprotoare you on Bionic ?13:37
zioprotomay I ask you the versions of your pristine-tar tool ?13:37
jamespagezioproto: cosmic - I can check on bionic as well13:37
jamespage1.44 of pristine-tar13:37
zioprotoI have 1.4213:38
zioprotocould be that, but Bionic ships 1.4213:39
jamespageI doubt it13:39
jamespagealot of other people would be shouting as well!13:39
zioprotoI will try to upgrade pristine-tar later13:40
zioprotofor now I fixed it with13:41
zioprotogbp buildpackage -S -us -uc --git-tarball-dir=../sandbox/13:41
zioprotoand downloading the file with the command: pull-uca-source neutron ocata13:41
jamespagezioproto: git slowness is a know issue - canonical-is investigating13:41
Ussatquestion about an upgrade from 16.04LTS --> 18.04LTS   http://pastebin.centos.org/1787581/13:55
JanCUssat: yes, it disables third part repositories during upgrade (because otherwise it would be unpredictable)14:00
JanCthird party*14:01
JanCyou can re-enable it afterwards; possibly check if the same or another repository is needed for 16.04 & 18.04 (in this case it might be the same?)14:02
JanCyou can leave the .distUpgrade file, or you can remove it, doesn't really matter AFAIK...14:03
UssatThanks14:05
zioprotojamespage: I manage to fixed. It was the tar package that had a problem14:12
zioprotoUnpacking tar (1.30+dfsg-2) over (1.29b-2) ...14:12
zioprotoI installed the cosmic package manually over the bionic package14:13
zioprotoand now pristine-tar works14:13
zioprotoI also upgraded pristine-tar from cosmic, but that alone did not fix it14:13
zioprotoshould I fill a bug somewhere ?14:13
zioprotocan anyone reproduce this ?14:13
ConquerorHello, I'm try to do basic PoC for stable and robust openstack environment. I can't decide the exact version of the openstack and ubuntu server. Which the best selection Quens + 18.04.1 or Pike + 16.04.05 and why? What is important to me is to build a solid, stable, robust Openstack structure. Thanks in advance.14:22
ConquerorOr something else version recommendation14:24
zioprotobtw I found the problem I had with newtron14:27
zioprotobtw I found the problem I had with neutron14:27
zioprotoI dont need a new package14:27
zioprotoI need to upgrade python-ryu14:27
zioprotoso I will not send any MR14:27
ahasenackhm, I have a case (https://bugzilla.samba.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13607) where winbind needs to be sent a HUP after network changes14:57
ubottubugzilla.samba.org bug 13607 in Winbind "Should winbind also wait for network-online?" [Normal,New]14:57
ahasenackwould this be a good candidate for a networkd-dispatcher hook/script?14:57
ahasenackuntil the upstream fix comes in, that is14:57
ahasenackit feels like so14:57
* ahasenack looks for examples14:57
ahasenackcpaelzer: have you written a dispatcher hook?14:58
cpaelzerahasenack: yes15:04
cpaelzerwait I'll send you a link ahasenack15:05
ahasenackthanks15:06
cpaelzerahasenack: this should lead you https://git.tuxfamily.org/chrony/chrony.git/commit/examples/chrony.nm-dispatcher?id=8cbc68f28f96d48a7ee128fa91731ca02a59891315:07
cpaelzerI reused the nm-dispatcher hook they already had and just made it ready to also work for networkd-dispatcher15:07
cpaelzeron top of that  man page and https://github.com/craftyguy/networkd-dispatcher to check details15:08
ahasenackok15:08
ahasenackI created a simple one to HUP winbind, placed it in routable.d, and it worked15:09
ahasenackbut I guess I can't rely on networkd-dispatcher being installed15:09
ahasenackit's "important"15:09
ahasenackand not worth adding dep to winbind since the bug will eventually be fixed upstream, and HUP won't be needed15:10
ahasenackbut I can suggest it as a workaround for this bug reporter15:10
jamespagezioproto: ack - what was the issue with ryu? do we need todo a fix there more generally?15:16
zioprotono it was my fault15:16
zioprotoI did an upgrade Newton to Ocata15:16
zioprotoand I upgraded with apt just the neutron packages15:16
zioprotoand my script did not include python-ryu15:16
zioprotook, I am not sure if the apt package for neutron-common could be actually improve to pull the updated version of python-ryu. I am not sure about this.15:17
jamespagezioproto: ah right - yes we generally test with a dist-upgrade with the new UCA pocket enabled15:17
jamespagezioproto: lets check the versions15:17
jamespagezioproto: there is no minimum version spec on ryu15:18
jamespagezioproto: so the versioning could be tightened up to force the upgrade15:19
zioprotojamespage: https://github.com/openstack/neutron/blob/stable/ocata/requirements.txt#L2215:19
jamespageyeah it needs 4.9 which is in the Ocata UCA15:19
zioprotoexactly15:19
zioprotoI mean15:19
zioprotoI usually do dist-upgrade15:19
jamespagebut not expressed in the pkging15:19
zioprotoI am not sure if this is too much optimization or not15:19
zioprotobut the neutron-common package will not work at all15:20
zioprotowithout the right ryu library15:20
zioprotowhen I figured it out I did dist-upgrade on everything15:20
zioprotoand it worked15:20
jamespageyah it would15:20
jamespagebut it would not hurt to version the dependency in the package if it won't work with earlier versions.15:21
zioprotoOK. I am on a tight schedule. I am just 1 more week in this company and I have trying to push the Ocata upgrade as far as possible15:21
zioprotoso I will leave to you guys this small packaging issue ;)15:21
zioprotoI am trying to push :)15:22
zioprotoI think the other issue is more wide15:22
zioprotothe tar version that kills pristine-tar in Bionic15:22
zioprotoI mean, more wide in terms of impacted people15:22
jamespagezioproto: I'm surprised that's not hit me before - I spent the whole of bionic development using those versions!15:23
zioprotoI dont know how to check if there is a `tar` package update sitting in the queue for Bionic. Were you able to reproduce it ?15:23
jamespagezioproto: git lp performance should be better now15:24
jamespagezioproto: I was15:24
zioprotoah ok, so I writing the minimal steps to reproduce15:27
zioprotojamespage: here you go15:31
zioprotohttps://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/MDLMNX6g/15:32
zioprotothis is really the minimal steps to reproduce15:32
zioprotojamespage: I dont see any bug listed here https://launchpad.net/tar15:33
jamespagezioproto: please raise one if you have time15:33
zioprotojamespage: where exactly ?15:33
zioprotoI mean I dont see ANY bug. 0 bugs open for tar15:33
jamespageubuntu-bug tar15:33
jamespageor pristine-tar infact15:34
zioprotowell the bug is fixed updating the version of tar15:34
jamespageyes but bionic is still broken and installing cosmic packages in bionic is not really a solution15:35
jamespagei suspect its a version mismatch - pristine-tar is quite brittle15:35
zioprotohttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tar/+bug/179171015:37
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1791710 in tar (Ubuntu) "tar 1.29b-2 breaks pristine-tar" [Undecided,New]15:37
zioprotoI need to go offline soon. Thanks for your support ! ciao :)15:37
jamespagezioproto: added a task for pristine-tar - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pristine-tar/+bug/179171015:44
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1791710 in tar (Ubuntu) "tar 1.29b-2 breaks pristine-tar" [Undecided,New]15:44
Epx998Aside from packages and the kernel, is there any difference between minor releases on a version of ubuntu?15:48
RoyKnot really15:52
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RoyKwith 18.04.1, the "live" server installer got some fixes, though, meaning it's still quite useless IMHO15:53
computa_mikeI'm just wondering : Has anyone tried setting up a PXE server on ubuntu 18.04?  I'm trying to follow some guides, but having issues with DNSMASQ.  Was wondering if I could configure systemd.resolved instead ?15:56
Ussatwell, dis a 16.04 --> 18.04 on a XWIKI box, tomcat/xwiki shit all overitself, reverted15:56
Ussat\o/ snapshots15:57
UssatHATE java based apps15:57
computa_mikei just found this page : https://www.hiroom2.com/2018/05/05/ubuntu-1804-tftpd-hpa-en/ so I'll try that16:00
computa_mikenope - that's only the FTP aspect - there's still the DHCP resolution aspect that I'm missing16:04
RoyKcomputa_mike: what're you trying to achive?16:08
computa_mikeHi @RoyK - I'm experimenting with setting up a PXE server - at the moment I have a couple of machines set up in VirtualBox.  My goal is to server a windows installation image from the server allowing me to re-build a windows machine from a network boot.  But to start with i was just looking at getting a basic PXE Server working16:10
RoyKcomputa_mike: then tftp is your friend, I guess16:11
RoyKnot FTP16:11
computa_mikeRoyK: sorry - the tftp part16:12
computa_mikeRoyK: yeah - as far as I understand PXE is a combination of a DHCP resolution and tftp server16:12
computa_mikeRoyK: I think that the newer 18.04 ubuntu has systemd resolver installed - which I think provides name resolution.  Whereas all the tutorials I've seen use dnsmasq - which has settings for tftproot etc16:13
computa_mikeRoyK: I think there is a technique to remove systemd's resolver but I had a go a that an promptly broke the server (got an error about host resolution when using sudo).16:14
RoyKsorry - no idea16:15
computa_mikeRoyK: No worries -16:15
tomreyncomputa_mike: you could look into cobbler or foreman for a more manageable pxe setup.16:24
tomreyni haven't actually done it, yet, but would expect pxe on 18.04 to work very siumilar to earlier releases.16:26
tomreynafter all, the pxe client is always the one your system(s) provide(s), and the components on the server side remain the same, too.16:27
computa_miketomreyn: I did see cobbler while scouting around...the problem with 18.04 is as you alluded to - the DNS resolution provided by systemd I think screw up dnsmasq and I think the only option is to remove systemd resolutiuon, and install dnsmasq instead. Perhaps an appliance is more like what I need rather than trying to configure a new server to operate like that16:29
tomreynso this resolver issue is on the pxe server, not the client?16:32
computa_miketomreyn: yes16:33
tomreynso it's "sudo systemctl disable systemd-resolved.service && sudo service systemd-resolved stop" + installing dnsmasq16:36
Ussathttps://news.slashdot.org/story/18/09/09/0318228/engineering-firm-plans-to-tow-icebergs-from-antarctica-to-parched-dubai16:36
Ussatooppsss wrong channel16:36
Epx998ive set pxe up on ubuntu and stuffs - if youre still needing help16:53
sudormrfwould this be a good place to ask about an Apache SSL forced redirect (webserver running on ubuntu) that has caused the sub-pages to fail to load, or should I ask in #apache?17:39
sudormrfnot really an ubuntu-server specific question, so I think #apache is probably better suited17:39
sudormrfbut just asking17:39
masonHey, I just realized that Bionic Beaver finally honors ctrl:nocaps. Woot.17:42
sudormrfwell, since #apache is _dead_...I have a webserver setup that I am doing some testing on and I have enabled forced redirection to the SSL site. now when I do that I can get to the main page, but all subpages give me 404. this was not the case when the forced redirect was not in place. trying to understand what is happening. anyone in here able to offer any guidance? happy to post the enabled site config18:01
sudormrfsorted18:29
sudormrfbuh bye18:29
blackflowmason: the what now?19:54
masonblackflow: /etc/defaults/keyboard, XKBOPTIONS="ctrl:nocaps"20:01
masonIt's from Debian. It evidently works now in Ubuntu, where it didn't previously.20:01
blackflowoh.20:03
jellythat looks like an argument for setxkbmap -option ... so you can do it manually (or some other way) in any X session20:39
masonjelly: It works in consoles too.20:40
jellyI have no idea how that bit's achieved20:42
masonThat's the magic. :)20:42
jonfenDoes anyone have any recent instructions for configuring ubuntu 18.04 to use an active directory server for authentication?  I have only found outdated instructions so far.22:36
keithzg[m]Heh I get why apt would prompt for whether you want to overwrite /etc/postfix/makedefs.out or not, but it seems like it'd be very silly not to go with the distro-provided one when upgrading postfix, eh? ;)23:23
RoyKkeithzg[m]: I don't remember the flag, but apt has flags for disabling prompts23:33
RoyK-f is one, but that's not really safe23:34
tomreyni agree that prompting about overwriting this file doesn't seem to make a lot of sense. in fact i guess it shouldn't be in /etc in the first place.23:35
keithzg[m]RoyK: Yeah I'm more just saying that in this particular case, it doesn't really make any sense to do anything other than replace that file; it is, after all, the autogenerated details of how postfix was built, so the version of that file from the package being installed is basically by definition the one that you'd want!23:35
keithzg[m]tomreyn: Yeah it's a bit odd of a place for it23:36
RoyKkeithzg[m]: I just don't remember that flag…23:37
RoyKkeithzg[m]: there's one used for unattended upgrades to just ignore such prompts and *not* overwrite old files23:37
tomreynif it's really the ubuntu postfix package placing the file there, then i'd say that's worth filing a bug.23:37
tomreynhmm yes it does https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic/amd64/postfix/filelist23:39
keithzg[m]tomreyn: True enough, and yeah `dpkg -S /etc/postfix/makedefs.out` confirms it's definitely owned by the postfix package.23:40
tomreynhttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/postfix/+changelog#detail_postfix_3.1.4-1 : "* Install /etc/postfix/makedefs.out so users can see how the package was built"23:41
tomreynadding the file was a good choice, i just think it should have been stored elsewhere23:42
keithzg[m]I suppose I should open the bug upstream with Debian, rather than on Launchpad23:46
tomreynthat, or both. ;)23:55
keithzg[m]Well, did https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/postfix/+bug/1791853 at least23:56
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1791853 in postfix (Ubuntu) "Postfix upgrade queries about replacing /etc/postfix/makedefs.out, when it really should always do so" [Undecided,New]23:56

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