| nacc | xamithan: always preferentially use php-gd, please | 00:08 |
|---|---|---|
| nacc | xamithan: not the version specific to the one you are running | 00:08 |
| nacc | xamithan: that way upgrades work | 00:08 |
| Mylon | Alright ,I'm trying to browse my user directory from a live ubuntu image... | 00:08 |
| nacc | Talsin: yw | 00:08 |
| nacc | tsglove: why are you building nginx? | 00:09 |
| Mylon | Trying to open the readme.txt doesn't work because it says the link is broken? | 00:09 |
| xamithan | I guess that works if people aren't using multiple php versions | 00:09 |
| nacc | xamithan: in officially supported ubuntu, there is only one version of php supported at a time | 00:09 |
| tsglove | nacc, b/c reasons | 00:09 |
| nacc | Mylon: `ls -ahl readme.txt`? | 00:10 |
| nacc | tsglove: not really good enough for the support channel. You want #nginx, most likely. | 00:10 |
| Mylon | I'm browsing it via the gui file browser. | 00:10 |
| tsglove | 10-4 thanks | 00:10 |
| xamithan | Well the dude is building from source, I'd say nothing he doing is supported here | 00:10 |
| armu | https://pastebin.com/raw/1dGpghZT how do i do this? | 00:11 |
| nacc | Mylon: can you right-click and see the properties? | 00:11 |
| nacc | Mylon: also, use a terminal and actually debug it :) | 00:11 |
| Mylon | I can. | 00:11 |
| nacc | armu: please stop asking for scripting help in this channel | 00:11 |
| Mylon | I don't know how to get here via the terminal... /mnt/ is empty. | 00:11 |
| nacc | armu: there are many more appropriate channels for it | 00:11 |
| nacc | armu: also, this looks like homework | 00:12 |
| nacc | Mylon: here being where? | 00:12 |
| nacc | Mylon: check `mount` output to see what is mounted where | 00:12 |
| Mylon | Oh, it's /dev/sda1 | 00:12 |
| Mylon | I'll try that. | 00:12 |
| nacc | Mylon: also, i think nautilus has a 'open terminal here' | 00:12 |
| nacc | Mylon: that's a disk, not the mountpoint | 00:12 |
| Mylon | Oh. | 00:12 |
| Mylon | Yeah, so sda1 -> home -> Mylon | 00:13 |
| BarnabasDK | nginx cool | 00:13 |
| BarnabasDK | but why better than apache .. | 00:13 |
| BarnabasDK | have worked with both obviously with apache first | 00:14 |
| Mylon | I tried right click -> open in terminal. And it just dumps me in "~"? | 00:15 |
| BarnabasDK | would probably chose nginx today though | 00:15 |
| nacc | BarnabasDK: not a support topic really either | 00:15 |
| nacc | Mylon: well, that's where you are, then | 00:15 |
| nacc | (most likely) | 00:15 |
| BarnabasDK | whos left in this channel .. | 00:16 |
| Mylon | Yeah, but that's not where I thought I would go. | 00:16 |
| Mylon | I was trying to run ecryptfs-utils to recover the data. | 00:16 |
| Talsin | nginx has different exploits than apache, so there are security issues, apache being the most well known and exploited (security thru obscurity tho) | 00:17 |
| Mylon | But when I do apt-get it says ecryptfs-utils has no installation candidate? | 00:17 |
| BarnabasDK | I happily want to offer my knowledge of many years with linux and ubuntu | 00:18 |
| BarnabasDK | the audience seems to shrink | 00:18 |
| Mylon | I'm a user in dire need of help! | 00:18 |
| BarnabasDK | can I without the gods of this channel saying yes? | 00:19 |
| Talsin | with modern encryption... if you cant remember your passpharse you are boned. | 00:19 |
| Mylon | My computer died. Another computer won't boot off the HD, so I'm trying to recover the data using a live USB. | 00:19 |
| Mylon | I know what the password is. That's not a problem. | 00:19 |
| nacc | BarnabasDK: please stick to support topics. I mentioned this once already. | 00:19 |
| Mylon | Assuming it's just my login password for my old computer. | 00:19 |
| Talsin | i heard it's not | 00:20 |
| BarnabasDK | aww, msg me directly then | 00:20 |
| BarnabasDK | will help | 00:20 |
| nacc | Mylon: do you have universe enabled? | 00:20 |
| Mylon | Universe? | 00:20 |
| nacc | Mylon: what version of ubuntu? | 00:20 |
| nacc | !components | Mylon | 00:20 |
| ubottu | Mylon: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories. | 00:20 |
| BarnabasDK | love ubuntu | 00:20 |
| esotericnonsense | hm. the ubuntu server installer is super nice. | 00:20 |
| BarnabasDK | best oss has seen | 00:20 |
| nacc | Mylon: `apt-cache policy` should tell you | 00:20 |
| nacc | BarnabasDK: stop. | 00:20 |
| Mylon | I'm currently running a live version of ubuntu-18.04.1-desktop-amd64 | 00:20 |
| BarnabasDK | ok stop | 00:20 |
| nacc | Mylon: yeah, i think universe is not enabled by default | 00:20 |
| esotericnonsense | love me some tasty ncurses | 00:21 |
| nacc | esotericnonsense: please stick to support topics in this channel, use #ubuntu-offtopic for chitchat | 00:21 |
| esotericnonsense | nacc sure, sorry. | 00:21 |
| BarnabasDK | nacc, may be foreign to you but irc you do not own .. | 00:21 |
| Mylon | If I could just boot off of the HD directly this wouldn't be a problem... | 00:22 |
| BarnabasDK | you may own this server | 00:22 |
| BarnabasDK | so lets get along | 00:22 |
| Mylon | apt-cache polciy says... I dunno, that's al ot of stuff. | 00:22 |
| Mylon | _Bionic Beaver_? | 00:23 |
| BarnabasDK | well | 00:23 |
| BarnabasDK | am just here to help | 00:23 |
| nacc | BarnabasDK: there are channel policies, etc. I don't own this 'server', which implies you also don't know how IRC works. | 00:24 |
| nacc | BarnabasDK: so in any case, please stick to the channel topics. | 00:24 |
| BarnabasDK | nacc, ok | 00:24 |
| nacc | Mylon: you can pastebin it, or `apt-cache policy | nc termbin.com 9999` | 00:24 |
| nacc | Mylon: and provide taht URL here | 00:24 |
| Mylon | Uh... | 00:24 |
| Mylon | Oh wait, I'm probably not on the internet. | 00:25 |
| nacc | Mylon: ah. | 00:25 |
| nacc | Mylon: look in /etc/apt/sources.list | 00:25 |
| nacc | Mylon: see if universe is mentioned | 00:25 |
| BarnabasDK | nacc, I belive I have crossed none of them | 00:25 |
| nacc | Mylon: if not, add it, as per the above url | 00:25 |
| Mylon | Bionic main restricted? | 00:25 |
| nacc | BarnabasDK: you can help all you want, in this channel, you don't need permission. But so far you have gone offtopic several times, and asked about apache vs. nginx. | 00:26 |
| nacc | BarnabasDK: just focus on helping people, if that's what you want to do. | 00:26 |
| nacc | Mylon: right, so add, after that restricted on that line, ' universe' | 00:26 |
| nacc | Mylon: and then save it, run `sudo apt-get update` | 00:26 |
| nacc | Mylon: that shold allow you to install ecryptfs-utils | 00:26 |
| Mylon | I suspect I should connect to the internet before that'll work? | 00:26 |
| nacc | Mylon: well yes :) | 00:26 |
| Mylon | Okay, ecryptfs-utils is installing. | 00:29 |
| nacc | Mylon: cool :) | 00:29 |
| Mylon | Thanks, nacc. Hopefully the utility just works from here on out. | 00:32 |
| nacc | Mylon: yep, just ask here (I need to go afk, but someone will reply if they can) | 00:32 |
| Mylon | Nope... | 00:33 |
| Mylon | "find: ...": invalid argument, invalid argument, and permission denied. :( | 00:34 |
| Mylon | How do I browse a hard disk? I assume I have to mount it? | 00:35 |
| xamithan | Yes | 00:36 |
| Mylon | The file browser seems to skip that step? | 00:36 |
| xamithan | nautilus will usually auto-mount it if you click to the media directory | 00:36 |
| Mylon | Ah, it has a really long name in there. | 00:36 |
| Mylon | So finally there... | 00:37 |
| xamithan | Yeah it does it by UUID or something | 00:37 |
| Mylon | Hmm, still no luck. | 00:38 |
| Mylon | ecryptfs-mount-private says encrpyted private directory is not setup properly. | 00:39 |
| xamithan | What is that thing encrypted with? | 00:40 |
| xamithan | Luks ? | 00:40 |
| Mylon | ecryptfs, I though. | 00:40 |
| xamithan | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory#Recovering%20Your%20Data%20Manually | 00:41 |
| Mylon | Oh neat, it says the passphrase is different than my login... I hope I didn't do anything fancy. | 00:42 |
| Mylon | But that makes me wonder how it opens the encrypted container when I login on if all I give is my password. | 00:43 |
| xamithan | Wonder if that encryptfs-recover-private works. I'm not sure how out of date that page is as I've never used encryptfs | 00:44 |
| tharkun | I need mysql on an 18.x server is mariadb my weapon of choice or should I stick with mysql? | 00:51 |
| Mylon | Well shit. | 00:54 |
| Mylon | Yeah, that guide isn't working. | 00:54 |
| hggdh | Mylon: please mind your language | 00:54 |
| Mylon | If I had known it would be this difficult to recover data, I wouldn't have used an ecrypted volume. :/ | 00:54 |
| Mylon | The destination directory seems to be empty... | 00:55 |
| Mylon | Trying to open it in a terminal says access denied. Opening it via sudo nautilus and it appears emtpy. | 00:55 |
| tharkun | Mylon: sudo su | 00:56 |
| Mylon | Nope... It gives me the "dummy files" | 00:57 |
| Mylon | ... | 00:59 |
| Mylon | Gotta be kidding me. | 00:59 |
| Mylon | Change a bios setting and now it boots. :/ | 00:59 |
| Mylon | I'm swearing off encryption unless I'm planning to overthrow my government or something. | 01:00 |
| cim209 | anyone getting issues of software updater disappearing? or when you open it up, it fails to load? i'm on MATE | 01:00 |
| xamithan | LUKS works pretty well mylon | 01:01 |
| cim209 | this is the syslog after i opened it https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/xqsZZ5WydW/ | 01:02 |
| Mylon | I'm using the encrypted container option provided by Ubuntu. | 01:02 |
| Mylon | Or I was... | 01:02 |
| Mylon | Replacement computer is not gonna have that. | 01:02 |
| bazhang | what's the ram on that cim209 | 01:05 |
| bazhang | is this the quite old machine? | 01:05 |
| cim209 | yeah | 01:05 |
| cim209 | it's a 2007 imac | 01:06 |
| cim209 | 2.5gb ram | 01:06 |
| cim209 | 1.53gb used | 01:06 |
| bazhang | that's likely it | 01:06 |
| bazhang | do you have trouble using apt | 01:06 |
| cim209 | nope | 01:06 |
| bazhang | apt update, upgrade etc | 01:06 |
| bazhang | ok, that would be it | 01:06 |
| xamithan | Probably missing topmenu-gtk2 | 01:06 |
| bazhang | gui apps are ram hungray | 01:06 |
| cim209 | i closed chrome (which takes a significant amount of ram) still disappears | 01:07 |
| cim209 | i updated from 16.04 to 18.04 | 01:07 |
| xamithan | 18.04 doesn't have topmenu in it | 01:07 |
| cim209 | xamithan, software updater loads fine after i reboot | 01:07 |
| bazhang | a nearly twelve year old machine wont be speedy or load everything gui-ish | 01:08 |
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| bazhang | try lubuntu and see where that lands you | 01:08 |
| cim209 | everything works | 01:08 |
| cim209 | even bluetooth | 01:08 |
| bazhang | great, but hardly speedy, and by works, if the software updater never appears, that's not really 'works' | 01:09 |
| cim209 | the animations are snappy | 01:09 |
| cim209 | it's not choppy | 01:10 |
| bazhang | file a bug against software updater then | 01:10 |
| xamithan | or go ask the MATE channel, since it isn't supposedly supported here | 01:10 |
| bazhang | we can field it here | 01:11 |
| cim209 | no one's home over there :( | 01:11 |
| bazhang | sign up, file or check for bugs with software updater and 18.04 | 01:11 |
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| === cosjelly is now known as emojelly | ||
| abdulhakeem | So i tried to install apache2 package on server 18.04 but somehow none of the default config files got installed so the apache2.service won't start...anyone had that happen before? I uninstalled the package, deleted /etc/apache2/, and am trying to reinstall the package to see if that fixes it | 01:34 |
| abdulhakeem | nope same thing, default config files aren't installing | 01:35 |
| abdulhakeem | that's weird | 01:35 |
| abdulhakeem | Sep 11 20:34:19 burnserv systemd[1]: Starting The Apache HTTP Server... | 01:35 |
| abdulhakeem | Sep 11 20:34:19 burnserv apachectl[3813]: apache2: Could not open configuration file /etc/apache2/apache2.conf: No such file or directory | 01:35 |
| abdulhakeem | Sep 11 20:34:19 burnserv apachectl[3813]: Action 'start' failed. | 01:35 |
| abdulhakeem | Sep 11 20:34:19 burnserv apachectl[3813]: The Apache error log may have more information. | 01:35 |
| abdulhakeem | Sep 11 20:34:19 burnserv systemd[1]: apache2.service: Control process exited, code=exited status=1 | 01:35 |
| abdulhakeem | Sep 11 20:34:19 burnserv systemd[1]: apache2.service: Failed with result 'exit-code'. | 01:35 |
| abdulhakeem | So i tried to install apache2 package on server 18.04 but somehow none of the default config files got installed so the apache2.service won't start...anyone had that happen before? I uninstalled the package, deleted /etc/apache2/, tried reinstalling the package but same thing happens. | 01:38 |
| === emojelly is now known as enojelly | ||
| xamithan | How did you uninstall it? if you did a purge and reinstalled it should have recreated | 01:54 |
| xamithan | The way you stated you removed it, it thinks the configs already exist | 01:55 |
| tomreyn | !paste | abdulhakeem | 01:56 |
| ubottu | abdulhakeem: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use https://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use https://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. | 01:56 |
| === Dreaman is now known as Blade | ||
| abdulhakeem | xamithan: I did sudp apt remove apache2 then deleted the /etc/apache2 folder | 02:01 |
| abdulhakeem | but I will see if purge works | 02:01 |
| abdulhakeem | well that seems to have solved the first problem but now I'm getting a different error when trying to start the service | 02:06 |
| abdulhakeem | (98)Address already in use: AH00072: make_sock: could not bind to address [::]:80 | 02:06 |
| abdulhakeem | (98)Address already in use: AH00072: make_sock: could not bind to address 0.0.0.0:80 | 02:06 |
| abdulhakeem | no listening sockets available, shutting down | 02:06 |
| xamithan | See whats on port 80 with ss -tulpn. kill the pid, restart it | 02:06 |
| xamithan | Might also have conflicting configs or virtualhosts if you didn't remove anything custom you added | 02:07 |
| piesquared | Where does apt-get install to? | 02:24 |
| rfm | piesquared, whereever the package says to.... | 02:24 |
| piesquared | Oh great... | 02:24 |
| piesquared | How can I find out? | 02:25 |
| piesquared | Find wont work, I got tons of stuff named that. | 02:25 |
| tomreyn | after installation: dpkg -L package | 02:25 |
| rfm | piesquared, dpkg -L <packagename> will show you all the files the pkg installed | 02:25 |
| tomreyn | before installation, you'd need to use apt-file or https://packages.ubuntu.com | 02:26 |
| abdulhakeem | i have nextcloud snap package installed, I wonder if that's using port 80 | 02:27 |
| piesquared | Ok, thanks. | 02:28 |
| tomreyn | abdulhakeem: 'sudo lsof -i :80' will tell | 02:28 |
| xamithan | nextcloud uses 80 and 443, yes | 02:28 |
| piesquared | Got about a bajillion results... | 02:28 |
| abdulhakeem | yeah im pretty sure it's nextcloud | 02:29 |
| abdulhakeem | tomreyn: well that gives me a bunch of pids.. | 02:30 |
| abdulhakeem | just gotta figure out what process they are | 02:30 |
| abdulhakeem | yeah its the nextcloud snap | 02:31 |
| abdulhakeem | well I guess I gotta install it manually | 02:31 |
| abdulhakeem | instead of using the snap | 02:32 |
| abdulhakeem | which I wanted to do anyway | 02:32 |
| xamithan | the snap has no config file ? | 02:32 |
| abdulhakeem | idk | 02:37 |
| abdulhakeem | but removing the snap worked so good enough for me | 02:37 |
| abdulhakeem | I can't get a2enmod to enable php... not sure what I'm missing | 02:55 |
| abdulhakeem | php, libapache2-mod-php, php-mysql are all installed | 02:56 |
| abdulhakeem | php 7.2.7 | 02:56 |
| tomreyn | you still need to restart the webserver after enabling modules | 02:56 |
| abdulhakeem | i have restarted it but I can't get them to enable in the first place | 02:57 |
| abdulhakeem | says module(s) do not exist | 02:57 |
| tomreyn | IIRC "apache2ctl -m" lists loaded modules | 02:58 |
| abdulhakeem | ive tried a2enmod php,php7.0,php7.2,php7.2.7, none work | 02:58 |
| abdulhakeem | yeah php is not loaded | 02:58 |
| tomreyn | actually upper case M | 02:59 |
| tomreyn | looks like you don't have php fully / properly installed then. | 02:59 |
| abdulhakeem | hmm | 03:00 |
| buddd | https://pastebin.com/KaExQrqR | 03:01 |
| buddd | Does anyone understand this error? I'm trying to ssh to a jupyter notebook on aws | 03:01 |
| abdulhakeem | tomreyn yep you were right, had to purge and reinstall php | 03:05 |
| abdulhakeem | but that worked | 03:05 |
| abdulhakeem | thanks | 03:05 |
| tomreyn | buddd: the service listening on port 8888 for connections from anywhere failed to properly evaluate the SSL / X.509 certificate chain expected to be found in 'certfile' | 03:06 |
| abdulhakeem | woo LAMP stack installed | 03:07 |
| tomreyn | abdulhakeem: glad you worked it out. you can use the 'debsums' package to ensure a package is (not) properly installed. or just pruge and reinstall, as you did. it's unusualy that a package does not install properly, though,a nd this should be further examined when it happens. | 03:07 |
| tomreyn | (since it could hint at apt dependency reolver issues or even at file system or hardware errors) | 03:08 |
| neptunepink | I apt upgrade'd, and now pressing Logo-Left and Logo-Right switches virtual consoles. How do I get rid of that? | 03:30 |
| neptunepink | `zcat /etc/console-setup/cached_UTF-8_del.kmap.gz | grep Incr_Console` seems like a hint. | 03:38 |
| pikia | Hey guys, using ubuntu 18 right now. During the login screen, I can press the cog to either change to use wayland or xorg. Is there anyway to add another option to this list? | 03:40 |
| pikia | For the xorg, I am currently using an eGPU and the xorg.conf file does not like it when the ePGU is not plugged in, forcing me to use wayland | 03:41 |
| pikia | So i guess my real question is, how can I *easily* choose between different xorg.conf files when I login | 03:41 |
| neptunepink | Changing the Incr_Console/Decr_Console's to Right/Left fixes it. But it'd probably get reverted the next time the file changes? | 03:47 |
| neptunepink | s/changes/gets updated | 03:47 |
| === Blade is now known as jakcyyy | ||
| k_sze[work] | Why was artful removed from packages.ubuntu.com? Shouldn't it be still supported? | 04:26 |
| lotuspsychje | k_sze[work]: artful is end of life | 04:27 |
| k_sze[work] | wait... wat | 04:28 |
| k_sze[work] | I always thought non-LTS releases only reach EOL at the next non-LTS release. | 04:29 |
| k_sze[work] | i.e. I didn't expect artful to be EOL before cosmic is released. | 04:30 |
| lotuspsychje | k_sze[work]: its the user responsible to keep his system up to date & maintained | 04:30 |
| === capella|away is now known as capella | ||
| calamari | I think I've broken UEFI, because my computer boots fine into Ubuntu, but the ASUS BIOS will no longer load (F2 or Del, and I know Del works because Ctrl-Alt-Del works). The BIOS worked earlier this evening, then I installed a new kernel and upgraded the nvidia (closed source) driver. My question is: which packages could I try reinstalling to hopefully repair UEFI? | 04:34 |
| k_sze[work] | Hmm, iputils-ping and inetutils-ping both provide ping. | 04:37 |
| calamari | oh, it's missing the fat32 partition... no clue how it was able to work before, must have been lucky | 04:37 |
| calamari | well, I know what I need to do... resize the ext4 and give myself a 100MB fat32 for uefi... cya :) | 04:39 |
| alkisg | Hi, spell checking in Greek worked in firefox and thunderbird before 18.04, but now it only works in thunderbird. In firefox it only works in english. Did firefox change something to require a plugin now? | 04:48 |
| === cpaelzer_ is now known as cpaelzer | ||
| lotuspsychje | alkisg: FF has recently updated i know..didnt see pass such issues yet? | 04:57 |
| alkisg | Hey lotuspsychje, long time no see. Ty, googling around in the meantime... | 04:58 |
| lotuspsychje | alkisg: glad to see you back :p | 05:00 |
| alkisg | ls /usr/lib/firefox/dictionaries => symlink to ../../share/hunspell => el_GR.aff el_GR.dic en_US.aff en_US.dic => all seem fine there... hmmm... | 05:01 |
| alkisg | Let me ask this in another way, does anyone have non english spell checking in firefox, without manually adding an addon from the firefox site? | 05:01 |
| * alkisg sees an ubuntu-specific patch in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/770719, maybe this was again dropped by mistake | 05:03 | |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 770719 in firefox (Ubuntu Natty) "Dutch localization doesn't include Firefox Dutch spell checker add-on" [High,Fix released] | 05:03 |
| cluelessperson | why is gvfs/samba so extremely slow? | 05:05 |
| alkisg | Downgrading to firefox 59 which is still in the archives fixes it, so yeah that must be it | 05:05 |
| cluelessperson | is literally everything wrong with ubuntu in 18? | 05:14 |
| cluelessperson | it *looks* nicer, but sacrifices wifi, audio, gui options, gvfs is still terrible, and more | 05:16 |
| kumool | hey! ubuntu has never been good so don't be talking badly about it now! | 05:16 |
| luka_33 | someone decide my fate | 05:26 |
| luka_33 | #include <stdio.h> | 05:26 |
| luka_33 | #include <stdlib.h> | 05:26 |
| luka_33 | 05:26 | |
| luka_33 | int main(int argc, char* argv[]) | 05:26 |
| luka_33 | { | 05:26 |
| cluelessperson | :/ | 05:31 |
| kumool | :} | 05:33 |
| cluelessperson | so the audio dialog doesn't change the audio output device | 05:34 |
| xamithan | Is that guy coding C inside an irc channel? O.o | 05:39 |
| Kon- | Hi, it just took me 20 minutes to install updates. It seemed to freeze while dpkg was running, and showed the updates as complete even though the components were not working in practice. It finally finished and seems to be working at first glance. | 06:04 |
| Kon- | Is there a way to force these libs to redownload and install the latest versions? | 06:05 |
| Kon- | Just to make sure | 06:05 |
| tomreyn | Kon-: you could review the logs to find out what made it take s long. | 06:06 |
| Kon- | Where can I find the relevant log tomreyn? | 06:07 |
| tomreyn | which ubuntu version are you running? | 06:07 |
| Kon- | 18.04 | 06:07 |
| tomreyn | one reason could be that you have a lot of kernel images installed, do yuo see many versioned files in /boot ? | 06:08 |
| tomreyn | apt logs are in /var/log/apt/ | 06:08 |
| Kon- | I have 3 kernels installed in /boot currently (post-update) | 06:08 |
| tomreyn | okay, that's fine | 06:08 |
| tomreyn | snapd logs to syslog, i think | 06:09 |
| tomreyn | so /var/log/syslog | 06:09 |
| Kon- | history.log in the apt directory doesn't say much except the packages installed and the start and end time | 06:09 |
| Kon- | Okay, I'll check the syslog as well | 06:09 |
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| === capella is now known as capella|away | ||
| Kon- | tomreyn: What sticks out to me in syslog is that the dbus service org.bluez timed out | 06:20 |
| Kon- | There was also this interesting bit from term.log in the apt directory. Not sure how relevant it is https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/MGPDBJ7GM2/ | 06:20 |
| Kon- | The bluez service is part of bluethoothd, apparently. I don't even have a Bluetooth adapter on this desktop. I'm hoping snapd didn't choose today to freak out over it for some reason | 06:23 |
| Kon- | My paste seems like a more likely cause, maybe. I don't really know what it means | 06:24 |
| === crimastergogo_ is now known as crimastergogo | ||
| tomreyn | Kon-: sorry, got sidetracked. do you run kde there? | 06:27 |
| Kon- | Well, I figured out what debconf does. And yes, I do | 06:27 |
| FedoraUser | hi friends | 06:27 |
| FedoraUser | I have a silly question... :) | 06:27 |
| FedoraUser | I can't seem to pass arguments to time command | 06:28 |
| FedoraUser | if I do "time -V" to get version, I receive: "bash: -V: command not found" | 06:28 |
| FedoraUser | either I'm misreading man page or there is something wrong here :) | 06:29 |
| tomreyn | Kon-: so normally it would have prompted you what to do about a changed default configuration in a configuration file. but it was unable to ask you this question graphically since something about qapt (some library / utility to aks these questions on QT based desktops) did not work out. so it fell back to not asking the question and just keep ing what you had previously. | 06:29 |
| Kon- | So Flash was trying to give me a dialogue box? Or apt itself? | 06:30 |
| Kon- | This might be because I updated with Muon this time instead of Discover. Muon is like Synaptic Qt, but it's not necessarily well maintained these days | 06:31 |
| tomreyn | FedoraUser: 'time' is both an internal command in bash (and other shells) and a separate binary at /usr/bin/time provided by the 'time' package | 06:33 |
| FedoraUser | tomreyn, ooooh, I see, so I need to call it via full path | 06:34 |
| tomreyn | Kon-: debconf, as invoked by dpkg, as incoked by apt, while configuring the flashplugin-installer package | 06:34 |
| tomreyn | FedoraUser: depend son which one you want to use. so, yes, that's possible. | 06:35 |
| FedoraUser | tomreyn, thank you, that helps me | 06:36 |
| FedoraUser | highly appreciated | 06:36 |
| Kon- | Thanks, tomreyn. I might try reinstalling Flash to see if I can replicate this and then poke someone at Kubuntu or Plasma | 06:37 |
| markpie | Hello Ubuntu creators. I'm really very happy regarding the last update. I wonder whether kernel once will be so advanced it would be able to change it without the need to restart computer... but that idea with tty1 in hi-res and tty2 in low-res got me. Thanks again. | 06:40 |
| blackflow | markpie: update the kernel without rebooting? already possible, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Livepatch | 06:41 |
| tomreyn | Kon-: i was looking for a bug report on debconf failing on the interactive frontent via qapt but can't find anything. maybe it's just something specific to your system, or it's actually intended. | 06:43 |
| fadavi | please see my question here: https://askubuntu.com/q/1074492/281905 and guide me in askubuntu, if you can. | 06:50 |
| Kon- | tomreyn: I'm reinstalling flashplugin-installer, and to my surprise, it seems like the real timewaster here is that it's taking an extremely long time to download this particular package from the repo. On the previous attempt, the term.log was also filled with download updates on flashplugin-installer, but not the other packages | 06:51 |
| tomreyn | Kon-: right, the installer downloads the payload in small chunks, which can take a while. | 06:52 |
| tomreyn | Kon-: yet another reason not to use flash | 06:52 |
| Kon- | It's funny because when I updated the whole system, I thought for sure there was a problem with the kernel update | 06:53 |
| Kon- | But no, just Flash | 06:53 |
| Kon- | And it's not a problem, just broken as intended | 06:53 |
| elh | Hi. My machine with Ubuntu 18.04 is freezing randomly. Problem description: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2400695 | 06:55 |
| empedokles78 | Strange observation yesterday: Firefox did switch my open tabs without me doing anything. Am I hacked? | 07:01 |
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| tomreyn | elh: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1030797/ubuntu-freezing-randomly - this may be a nouveau bug, i suggest you report it using: ubuntu-bug xserver-xorg-video-nouveau | 07:04 |
| Kon- | empedokles78: If you accidentally hit Ctrl+Tab when you meant to hit Alt+Tab, that would do it. There are several different ways to switch tabs in Firefox | 07:05 |
| empedokles78 | Kon-, I didn't do anything. | 07:08 |
| Kon- | elh: Are you sure you have an NV106 GPU, and are not referring to a GP106 by Nvidia? | 07:09 |
| FXpro | wonderful, Permission denied Error while copying. how do I turn the permission on please? | 07:10 |
| Kon- | The GP106 chip is used in a couple different cards, including the common GTX 1060. But all references I can find to "NV106" refer to its cousin, the Nvidia P106 designed for crypto mining. | 07:11 |
| Kon- | I really doubt Nouveau has great support for mining-oriented GPUs at this time | 07:12 |
| FXpro | something so simple as copy paste or overwrite a file should not be so difficult. | 07:12 |
| Kon- | FXpro, open a terminal at your location and use "sudo cp <filename> <destination/filename> | 07:13 |
| FXpro | can you show me an example please? | 07:14 |
| FXpro | and why is it not possible right within the file manager itself? | 07:14 |
| Kon- | Which file manager are you using? | 07:14 |
| FXpro | in other words, right click for permission settings with the root password | 07:14 |
| Kon- | You could run the file manager as root as well, but I wouldn't recommend it | 07:14 |
| FXpro | nemo I think. | 07:15 |
| EriC^^ | FXpro: the file manager's user is your user, which might not have permissions to the dir, you'd need to open the file manager with privileges, e.g. gksu <name of filemanager> | 07:15 |
| FXpro | there needs to be an easy way to turn that on and off. | 07:15 |
| FXpro | and actually once it is turned on, there should also be an option to automatically turn the permission to copy paste or overwrite back on automatically. | 07:15 |
| EriC^^ | there used to be a package that did that, right click > open as root or something | 07:16 |
| elh | Kon-: NV106 - it says like that on my Settings/Details/About field | 07:16 |
| Kon- | elh: Do you know the commercial name of the product? Did you buy this PC used? | 07:16 |
| FXpro | it should be a standard feature in the 21st century. hehe. | 07:16 |
| elh | Kon-: I bought my PC used. | 07:17 |
| FXpro | in fact, we all should be flying around literally in george jetson space cars to make my point right now. | 07:17 |
| FXpro | anyway, how exactly do I turn the directory I want to copy a file to on to allow it please? | 07:18 |
| elh | Kon-: Dell Model: D03S | 07:18 |
| Kon- | FXpro: Fun fact, this used to be a feature in the Dolphin file manager, but was patched out in the last year or so because there was a security vulnerability discovered running apps as root in X11 | 07:19 |
| elh | Kon-: commercial name: Dell Optiplex 990 | 07:19 |
| Kon- | Ahh thank you elh | 07:20 |
| Kon- | elh: Have you tried using the proprietary Nvidia driver? | 07:20 |
| elh | Kon-: So far I haven't tried using it, because I couldn't find it. | 07:22 |
| Kon- | elh: Just start the "Driver Manager" in Ubuntu | 07:22 |
| FXpro | ok ummm, so how do I copy and overwrite this file again please? | 07:23 |
| FXpro | should be really really really simple thing | 07:23 |
| Kon- | elh: Wait for the list to load and then switch to "Using NVIDIA driver metapackage" | 07:23 |
| Kon- | And then save the changes | 07:24 |
| FXpro | like, extra special simple and secure via a right click menu that has options in it to turn stuff on and off as needed and set it to auto turn off the permissions after an operation is completed "for security" of course. | 07:24 |
| Kon- | FXpro: What file are you trying to overwrite? | 07:25 |
| FXpro | its a program file | 07:25 |
| FXpro | like, installed 3rd party. why does that matter btw? | 07:25 |
| FXpro | https://askubuntu.com/questions/6723/change-folder-permissions-and-ownership | 07:27 |
| FXpro | "I have found numerous posts (in this forum and elsewhere) on how to do this for files but I can't find a way to do it for whole folders." | 07:27 |
| FXpro | Make the current user own everything inside the folder (and the folder itself): | 07:29 |
| FXpro | sudo chown -R $USER ~/.blabla | 07:29 |
| Kon- | FXpro: Did you install this third party program to /opt ? If it's somewhere else, and it didn't come from a repository, you might want to move it | 07:30 |
| FXpro | yes | 07:30 |
| FXpro | very very simple stuff, I want to overwrite a file inside the install directory to test out the program and see if I like it. | 07:30 |
| Kon- | Okay, so let's assume you have unzipped the new version of the application to /home/FXpro/Downloads and you want to move it to /opt | 07:31 |
| FXpro | yes, exactly | 07:32 |
| FXpro | but its a single file I am want copy over to the install directory | 07:32 |
| FXpro | why is that a problem to begin with? | 07:32 |
| FXpro | this is why regular people out there have a problem with linux. it should not be rocket science to do something stupid simple like copy paste. | 07:33 |
| Kon- | Open your terminal, "cd Downloads" and then "sudo cp FolderName /opt/FolderName" and enter your password | 07:33 |
| FXpro | the the ubuntu people want to make their thing marketable to the masses, its gotta be dummy proof like mac os which is based on linux again. | 07:34 |
| Kon- | Mac OS is not based on Linux | 07:34 |
| FXpro | yeah it is. | 07:34 |
| FXpro | osx is based on the source code of linus torvalds. | 07:34 |
| FXpro | same thing with android. | 07:34 |
| FXpro | chrome os. etc etc | 07:34 |
| FXpro | "Both Mac OS X, the operating system used on Apple's desktop and notebook computers, and Linux are based on the Unix operating system, which was developed at Bell Labs in 1969 by Dennis Ritchie and Ken Thompson. The operating system used on Apple's iPhones, now called iOS, is derived from Mac OS X ..." | 07:35 |
| tomreyn | FXpro: and none of this has anything to do with Linus Torvalds. | 07:36 |
| FXpro | oh well, whatever. its in the same direction. | 07:36 |
| tomreyn | but then, none of this has to do anything with ubuntu support either | 07:36 |
| tomreyn | !ot | 07:36 |
| ubottu | #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks! | 07:36 |
| tomreyn | there's also #ubuntu-discuss for on top ic discussions | 07:37 |
| Kon- | FXpro: If you don't want to deal with this in the future, you could just install some third party software into Home instead of dealing with /opt, which requires root access | 07:38 |
| FXpro | ok so what do you recommend? | 07:38 |
| empedokles78 | Is the LTS upgrade from 16.04 -> 18.04 a difficult process? What are the benefits? | 07:39 |
| Kon- | I recommend learning the basics of the terminal | 07:39 |
| FXpro | ok so, I still need to fix this problem right now. | 07:39 |
| tomreyn | empedokles78: not from a user perspective | 07:40 |
| FXpro | I will try this and see what happens Open your terminal, "cd Downloads" and then "sudo cp FolderName /opt/FolderName" and enter your password | 07:40 |
| FXpro | its not a folder btw, it is just a single file for the update. | 07:40 |
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| tomreyn | empedokles78: the benefits are newer software versions (thus often more features) and extended support lifetime. | 07:41 |
| empedokles78 | tomreyn, better hardware support too? what about gnome? | 07:41 |
| Kon- | FXpro: The game store Steam, for example, installs into the /home/User/.steam directory by default. I have games go into /home/User/Games so I never have a password prompt when I modify config files for them | 07:42 |
| tomreyn | empedokles78: let me rephrase this: both 16.04 LTS and 18.04 LTS have the same support lifetime, but the date when 18.04 LTS looses support is two years later than that of 16.04 LTS. | 07:42 |
| tomreyn | empedokles78: 18.04 comes with a newer kernel than the 16.04 GA kernel, but thanks to HWE 16.04 can also run this newer kernel. | 07:43 |
| empedokles78 | tomreyn, when will 16.04 LTS loose support? | 07:43 |
| tomreyn | !releasenotes | empedokles78 see this for more news / improvements of 18.04 over 16.04 | 07:44 |
| ubottu | empedokles78 see this for more news / improvements of 18.04 over 16.04: Ubuntu 18.04 (Bionic Beaver) release notes can be found here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BionicBeaver/ReleaseNotes | 07:44 |
| empedokles78 | tomreyn, with hardware support I meant printer devices and so on (which was very limited in 16.04). | 07:44 |
| tomreyn | empedokles78: "16.04" stands for its release month, april 2016. LTS releases get 5 years of support on software in 'main' and 'restricted'. | 07:45 |
| FXpro | Kon- ummm, ok. in windows it is all very simple. the same kind of thing should be the case here. | 07:46 |
| FXpro | take ownership and run as super user are very good features built into the file manager of windows. | 07:46 |
| EriC^^ | FXpro: it's free why are you complaining? you do realize you're suppose to write the code yourself and give it to the community right? ingrate | 07:47 |
| tomreyn | empedokles78: like with other hardware, too, printer support is a matter of vendors providing drivers or at least full specifications + documentations. some work better than others. | 07:47 |
| EriC^^ | also do you have any clue where you are or what you're using? this isnt a gui oriented os, you dont get a ferrari then complain about the a/c or something | 07:47 |
| FXpro | yes but here is my point, whoever is coding this stuff should always think in terms of efficiency. because without clean simple reliable first, it is not useful. would be like using a tool to take a tire off a car but the tool is china made crap that breaks, or poor design and will not hold the bolt correctly. hopefully, you get my point. | 07:48 |
| Kon- | Well, Ubuntu is supposed to be GUI-oriented. Linux for Human Beings and such. But a user with no technical experience in Linux should not be modifying system files if they don't even understand the copy command | 07:48 |
| FXpro | I dont understand why its gotta be so difficult is really my grip. | 07:49 |
| tomreyn | FXpro: once again, please move the discussion to #ubuntu-discuss or -ubuntu-offtopic or elsewhere, it doesn't belong here | 07:49 |
| FXpro | should be stupid simple. gui or command line. | 07:49 |
| EriC^^ | FXpro: the gui is like an accessory in linux, the cli and its tools etc are the actual "good stuff" | 07:49 |
| EriC^^ | the gui stuff is just a blessing recently so its more usable not just on servers or for major "power users" or whatever | 07:49 |
| EriC^^ | FXpro: well write it yourself then :) | 07:49 |
| Kon- | I understand this is third party software, but you installed it into /opt, which requires root access to modify. So the difficulty was introduced by downloading proprietary software from the internet instead of using software provided in the repositories | 07:49 |
| EriC^^ | FxproFM | 07:49 |
| FXpro | why am I not in root by default? | 07:50 |
| FXpro | I type the su command etc | 07:50 |
| FXpro | su + password = root | 07:50 |
| FXpro | should not be a problem after that. | 07:50 |
| empedokles78 | tomreyn, so long as ubuntu doesn't publish such a list of supported hardware, it's a gamble to buy printers or scanners. | 07:50 |
| tomreyn | root doesn't have a password by default, so su wont work. | 07:51 |
| zzarr | Hello! | 07:51 |
| FXpro | then su + password + option to turn off root = no root and would be very useful and simple. | 07:51 |
| zzarr | Is it possible to cluster 2 or more computers as SSI with Ubuntu? | 07:52 |
| tomreyn | empedokles78: you can search the web for supported hardware, and there is hardware certifications program by cannoical, too. also see linuxprinting.org for driver support for specific hardwares. | 07:52 |
| tomreyn | empedokles78: generally (with exceptions), HP and brother printers usually work fine. | 07:52 |
| tomreyn | zzarr: SSI standing for what? | 07:53 |
| nwe | s | 07:53 |
| empedokles78 | tomreyn, what about flatbet scanners? | 07:53 |
| zzarr | tomreyn, Single System Image | 07:53 |
| zzarr | meaning that all nodes (computers) act as one system | 07:54 |
| tomreyn | zzarr: i'm not familiar with this concept, maybe ask in #uubntu-server. | 07:54 |
| zzarr | I will, thanks | 07:54 |
| empedokles78 | Recently I installed libreoffice snap. If I download a document on the web and want to open it it says that doc is not available. It's appearing under downloads however. What could cause this? | 07:56 |
| tomreyn | empedokles78: about scanners and MFP systems, it's similar: search the web before you buy | 07:57 |
| EriC^^ | how are you trying to open it? empedokles78 | 07:58 |
| empedokles78 | EriC^^, I'm trying to open it directly out of firefox with libreoffice. | 08:00 |
| empedokles78 | EriC^^, it says: /tmp/mozilla_nuc0/documentname doesn't exist. | 08:01 |
| tomreyn | empedokles78: download it first, then open it from where you stored it. | 08:02 |
| empedokles78 | tomreyn, that works. But I think without the snap it did work the other way around too. | 08:03 |
| EriC^^ | empedokles78: maybe it's some bug, did you open it right before it was about to finish or something? | 08:09 |
| EriC^^ | i think though usually for me it downloads them directly into the downloads dir as filename.part without any /tmp intermediaries | 08:10 |
| EriC^^ | *shrug* | 08:10 |
| markpie | blackflow> Consider me as a stupid unexperienced user. Where do I turn on udates without rebooting (using LiveKernel whatever that means) | 08:15 |
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| Jackneill | hey | 08:44 |
| Jackneill | i can see occational glitches on both monitors. im on bionic and cinnamon.(xorg) | 08:45 |
| Jackneill | usuaally when scrolling, but hapenned what i didnt do anything, they they stay/stay longer | 08:45 |
| Jackneill | any idea? | 08:45 |
| Jackneill | intel everything | 08:46 |
| macjack | Hello everyone | 08:51 |
| macjack | is there any good reference to buils my own ubuntu ISO file for ARM platform system? | 08:52 |
| macjack | Thanks | 08:52 |
| tomreyn | Jackneill: maybe this https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/intel_graphics#Tear-free_video or this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/1775637 | 08:53 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1775637 in firefox (Ubuntu) "Screen tearing both in scrolling and videos" [Undecided,New] | 08:53 |
| pikia | Hey guys, using ubuntu 18 and was wondering what I can use to get a zoom like effect on macos | 08:54 |
| lotus|NUC | !info docky | pikia | 08:57 |
| ubottu | pikia: docky (source: docky): Elegant, powerful, clean dock. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.2.1.1-1 (bionic), package size 609 kB, installed size 3329 kB | 08:57 |
| Jackneill | thanks | 08:58 |
| pikia | Huh, im not really looking for a dock replacement though | 08:58 |
| pikia | I meant zoom as in when you do ctrl + mouse wheel up, it magnifies the area around the mouse. | 08:59 |
| Jackneill | tomreyn, the glithes are multicolor | 08:59 |
| Jackneill | looks like garbage | 08:59 |
| tomreyn | Jackneill: hmm, so not screen tearing. then i'd check the cables, power cycle the monitors, and, if still unsolves, file a bug. | 09:00 |
| Jackneill | right, thank | 09:01 |
| tomreyn | macjack: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallCDCustomization | 09:06 |
| tomreyn | macjack: this would be for use with the classic debian-installer based images (mini.iso and alternate server installer) | 09:07 |
| lotus|NUC | pikia: for other features on gnome, you best try gnome extensions | 09:08 |
| tomreyn | macjack: i.e. http://ports.ubuntu.com/dists/bionic-updates/main/installer-arm64/current/images/netboot/ or http://ports.ubuntu.com/dists/bionic/main/installer-armhf/current/images/ | 09:08 |
| lotus|NUC | pikia: https://extensions.gnome.org/ | 09:08 |
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| K1rk | The answer is right there | 09:31 |
| K1rk | > sudo chown -R username:group directory | 09:32 |
| Diagon | Can anyone tell me how to create a hot-key that effectively executes `control-v; my_script`? I tried `xsel -o` for control-v, but it didn't work. | 09:32 |
| K1rk | So if your username is fxpro and you want to change ownership of /var/bs to you | 09:32 |
| K1rk | chown -R fxpro /var/bs | 09:32 |
| macjack | Hello tomreyn Thanks for these guides, I will try to compose ISO image file :) | 09:32 |
| K1rk | Then you'll own it | 09:32 |
| K1rk | err, with sudo of course. | 09:33 |
| K1rk | sudo chown -R fxpro /var/bs | 09:33 |
| K1rk | sudo just means to run it as root. | 09:33 |
| Diagon | Where is control-v even defined? It's not under Settings >> Keyboard >> Shortcuts | 09:34 |
| yokowka | heavenO everysoul!!!! who know, how to clear this system mesages two lines [ 2.617544] ACPI Error [\ PC10 | 09:36 |
| yokowka | AE_NOT_FOUND (20160831/P | 09:36 |
| yokowka | [ 2.617552] ACPI Error Method failed [\ | 09:36 |
| yokowka | 02._BCL] (Mode ffff90881a9 AE_NOT_FOUND ??)))) | 09:36 |
| K1rk | They have some shared history but OS X is not based on Linux | 09:40 |
| K1rk | It says so right in what you posted | 09:40 |
| K1rk | I thought someone else posted that to disprove you, then I saw it was you. | 09:40 |
| K1rk | lol | 09:40 |
| K1rk | FXpro: Multiple suggestions have been posted, what is not clear? | 09:44 |
| FXpro | manual install of java 8. its not an executable file. | 09:44 |
| FXpro | so if I have downloaded it directly how do you get it installed wihtout executable installer? | 09:45 |
| K1rk | FXpro: that would not be secure | 09:54 |
| K1rk | To be root by default lol | 09:54 |
| FXpro | yes I know. | 09:54 |
| FXpro | but there should be some kind of switch that can turn that on or off easily. | 09:55 |
| FXpro | pulling teeth to overwrite a file is stupid. | 09:55 |
| TxRaspPi | fxpro: the viruses would like that | 09:56 |
| TxRaspPi | the switch to turn iy on and off | 09:56 |
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| JimBuntu | macOS/OS X based on Linux?! Sacrilege! | 10:36 |
| SwedeMike | correct, MacOS kernel isn't based on Linux. https://itsfoss.com/mac-linux-difference/ | 10:41 |
| alive | I have no idea what settings my home directory ecryptfs was created with (i do know the encryption passphrase, i assume it is my user password?) | 11:10 |
| alive | Found ecryptfs-recover-private. | 11:12 |
| dimm | hello, All! What can be core of issue? When i boot in ubuntu 18.04 then cd-tray is opening. | 11:14 |
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| JimBuntu | dimm, There could be a number of causes. Does it only happen once or continually? Did this not happen with your previous version of Ubuntu? | 11:19 |
| dimm | JimBuntu, it is happen continially (on each reboot or power-on). Previous it was windows 10 at this notebook =/ | 11:20 |
| EriC^^ | dimm: does "dmesg | grep sr0" give anything? | 11:21 |
| dimm | JimBuntu, when laptop is before os booting (like at bios screen or something liek that) then cd tray is closed and when i press button on it it opening fine. | 11:21 |
| dimm | JimBuntu, when laptop is start os booting and after it finished (desktop is displaying) then button on tray not working, but context menu "eject" working fine | 11:22 |
| dimm | EriC^^, i will check, laptop is home machine, now i'm at work | 11:22 |
| dimm | JimBuntu, EriC^^ , also external cd tray working fine | 11:23 |
| JimBuntu | dimm, It's been so long since I used a CD drive, that I have forgotten much. I would verify that it's not listed as a source for updates, nothing is trying to auto-mount a disc ( fstab/etc ), nothing additional in /etc/udev/rules.d/, and since you have 2 drives, you may want to try dmesg | grep -iE '(sr0|sr1)' | 11:28 |
| dimm | JimBuntu, thanks a lot very usefull information | 11:33 |
| JimBuntu | You are welcome dimm | 11:33 |
| dimm | JimBuntu, second drive was connected after i got trouble with internal | 11:33 |
| dimm | JimBuntu, it is seems like some signal going on booting, may be it is automount, i will check! | 11:34 |
| dimm | EriC^^, thanks too, dmesg will checked | 11:34 |
| alive | If I want to move my ecryptfs from one disk to another for later recovery on the original machine, can I just rsync -a /src /dst? | 11:36 |
| Yimo_ | Hello there! Really quick question, does anyone know an irc server where I can ask help for grub in ubuntu? I don't want to get this channel spammed. If This channel isn't that active then, here is my problem : I want to remove grub from Ubuntu so that it doesn't overwrite Manjaro's grub config and such. Is this safe and does anyone know how to do this? | 11:45 |
| BluesKaj | Hi folks | 11:48 |
| Yimo_ | ..Weird, I did not expect #ubuntu to be so silent honestly xD | 11:51 |
| lotus|NUC | patience Yimo_ #ubuntu has different timezones wakeup | 11:52 |
| Yimo_ | Mm yeah true! You're right :D I believe most of who would be here is now sleeping, as they are in the US | 11:53 |
| blackflow | Yimo_: afaik yes, you can remove grub packages and then any changes that would trigger grub re-installation / reconfiguration would not do so | 11:54 |
| TxRaspPi | quiet i am trying to sleep | 11:54 |
| TxRaspPi | hrhr | 11:54 |
| blackflow | patience is virtue.... | 11:54 |
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| shayanthethief | can u guys hear me alright? | 12:12 |
| ioria | not really, but we see you | 12:12 |
| shayanthethief | very nice | 12:12 |
| shayanthethief | can someone give me an idea for a tech related article? | 12:14 |
| lotus|NUC | !support | shayanthethief | 12:15 |
| ubottu | shayanthethief: The official ubuntu support channel is #ubuntu. Also see http://ubuntu.com/support and http://ubuntuforums.org and http://askubuntu.com | 12:15 |
| shayanthethief | ok | 12:16 |
| shayanthethief | why is there always tearing and lag spikes with nvidia drivers? | 12:18 |
| shayanthethief | how can i get an answer in chats | 12:28 |
| lotus|NUC | shayanthethief: before you volunteers can help you, we advise you give details first | 12:29 |
| lotus|NUC | !details | shayanthethief | 12:29 |
| ubottu | shayanthethief: Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information; for example, we might need errors, steps, relevant configuration files, Ubuntu version, and hardware information. Use a !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel. | 12:29 |
| shayanthethief | whether i install proprietary nvidia drivers or use the default nouveau, i have lag spikes every second. | 12:31 |
| TJ- | shayanthethief: lag of what, precisely? | 12:31 |
| shayanthethief | visual lag in games, movies, moving windows, on https://testufo.com | 12:32 |
| TJ- | shayanthethief: it's a complex area; it depends how the scenes are being rendered, resolution,, what the GPU is, memory, frequencies on the monitor, and so forth. | 12:34 |
| shayanthethief | what do you mean by "how the scenes are being rendered". whatever rendering backend i choose has the same issue. although i tried the 'force full composition' in nvidia xserver settings; it got rid of the tearing but i still have the problem of lag spikes | 12:37 |
| === berendir_ is now known as berendir | ||
| TJ- | lag is generally because the scene rendering can't keep up, which can be affected by the resolution, refresh frequency, GPU/GRAM power/size | 12:38 |
| Chainsaw | Hello. Attempting to install Ubuntu Server Lts 18.04.1 in a multipath FibreChannel environment using LPFC (Emulex) adapters. I am unable to enable any sort of multipath support, as the documentation seems outdated (for 16.04, which has a different kernel command line on the install media). | 12:39 |
| shayanthethief | do you mean the framebuffer? these lag spikes happen every second repeatedly | 12:39 |
| lotus|NUC | Chainsaw: join #ubuntu-server mate | 12:40 |
| Chainsaw | lotus|NUC: Understood, thank you. | 12:40 |
| shayanthethief | TJ-: everything is working completely fine in cinnamon desktop env, only laggy in KDE and gnome | 12:43 |
| lowkeycoat1 | hi im running 16.04 and my computer isnt registering an sd card i put in.. help? | 12:45 |
| shayanthethief | try lsusb and take a look at /meda | 12:46 |
| shayanthethief | sorry /media i meant | 12:46 |
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| empedokles78 | Where do I have to copy google fonts? | 13:15 |
| adrian_1908 | empedokles78: I just joined, what are you trying to do? | 13:15 |
| hateball | empedokles78: typically you can doubleclick a font (ttf) and you should get a GUI to help you install it | 13:20 |
| hateball | otherwise you need to copy it to somewhere like ~/.fonts and run fc-cache -f -v, if memory serves | 13:20 |
| adrian_1908 | it really depends, but since he doesn't respond... | 13:21 |
| coconut | Are there any smartphone apps under ubuntu at the moment? (like itunes, imazing or waltr) | 13:25 |
| adrian_1908 | I don't think any of them have been ported unfortunately. | 13:27 |
| empedokles78 | adrian_1908, this are ttf fonts inside a zip. | 13:32 |
| adrian_1908 | empedokles78: you want to use them on your system? | 13:33 |
| empedokles78 | adrian_1908, yes, basically for inkscape. | 13:34 |
| empedokles78 | After opening them up there was a button to install them, so I guess I'm allright. | 13:35 |
| adrian_1908 | empedokles78: ok, otherwise ~/.local/share/fonts/truetype would be a good location if only your user is using them. | 13:36 |
| adrian_1908 | But if there's a button that good. | 13:36 |
| empedokles78 | adrian_1908, They are not in inkscape though (restarted it). Do I need a reboot? | 13:37 |
| adrian_1908 | empedokles78: they should be. Try `sudo fccache -fv` as hateball suggested. | 13:37 |
| adrian_1908 | And then restart inkscape. Reboot should NOT be needed! | 13:38 |
| adrian_1908 | correction: fc-cache with a dash | 13:38 |
| empedokles78 | adrian_1908, strange, they are in my old ubuntu repo inkscape but not in my snap inkscape. | 13:42 |
| adrian_1908 | empedokles78: hmm, weird. I never use snaps, so no idea about that. Maybe the snap version is more self-contained and doesn't query the usual paths when looking for resources. | 13:44 |
| qwefytuoityty | 15 - 18 It happens to Linux ( U-Mate, Xu, Lu, Fedora) in VirtualBox or VMware Player. Only closing ( power off ) of the program VB, VMP helps. If the free memory is small and swap is used ( Firefox has many open pages ) ~700 - 1000 megabyte in swap virtual machine freezes. I see the same in real PC the same PC with U-Mate 18, but real PC reset is a bad idea. On video it is shown as the disk on Host behaves when Linux in the virt | 13:47 |
| qwefytuoityty | ual machine freezes. Host does not freezes. Maximum I waited ~ 20 or 40 minutes and close/restart virtual machine/PC. I never see that such freezings have stopped. https://ufile.io/zscfb btrfs, swap partition real pc, swap hdd in virtual machine. | 13:47 |
| mauroc | Hi guys, i'm looking for some suggests.. I bought a new laptop (1 ssd 512 gb 1 hdd 1tb 16 gb ram). What is the best scheme partition? | 13:48 |
| lotus|NUC | mauroc: in most cases the auto partitioning from the ubuntu setup suits well | 13:51 |
| lotus|NUC | !partitioning | mauroc for manual | 13:51 |
| ubottu | mauroc for manual: For help with partitioning a new install see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowtoPartition | For partitioning programs, see !GParted (recommended) or !PartitionManager. Other partitioning topics include !fstab, !home, and !swap | 13:51 |
| mauroc | tnx lotus|NUC | 13:51 |
| empedokles78 | adrian_1908, maybe a reboot is needed for snaps then. thanks. | 13:52 |
| empedokles78 | What could cause inkscape to not redraw the screen correctly? | 13:52 |
| abdulhakeem | So I have an apache web server that I want to host both a Nextcloud installation and a WordPress installation on, using virtual hosts. I have a DDNS domain name that I use, although I THINK I need to create a second one (myddns.net, cloud.myddns.net). But what I don't quite follow is, how do I point a specific domain name to a specific apache virtualhost? | 13:55 |
| abdulhakeem | because if I open 80/443 on my router, how does the traffic know which site to reach? | 13:55 |
| abdulhakeem | using apache virtualhosts* | 13:55 |
| abdulhakeem | not sure if that makes sense, I don't know what I don't know so I'm not sure how to ask | 13:56 |
| leftyfb | abdulhakeem: you use VirtualHosts in apache. You read the documentation and learn how to run a public web server | 13:56 |
| leftyfb | abdulhakeem: if you cannot do that, then you should not be running a public web server | 13:56 |
| abdulhakeem | it's not really "public" it's just for my own use | 13:57 |
| qwefytuoityty | why swap is necessary if they doesn't work normally in Linux | 13:57 |
| abdulhakeem | but yeah | 13:57 |
| abdulhakeem | fair enough | 13:57 |
| abdulhakeem | ah to the virtualhost .conf files determine it I guess? | 13:57 |
| leftyfb | abdulhakeem: if it will be accessible on the internet, then it is public and subject to exploitation if not properly configured and secured. All of which requires a certain level of competency | 13:58 |
| coz_ | qwefytuoityty, Even if there is still available RAM, the Linux Kernel will move memory pages which are hardly ever used into swap space. | 13:58 |
| abdulhakeem | so basically just read through the apache documentation until I figure it out lol gotcha | 13:58 |
| abdulhakeem | just figured it might be a bit quicker to ask here :P | 13:58 |
| leftyfb | abdulhakeem: Teaching you how to properly configure and secure a web server is beyond the scope of this channel. And frankly, if you aren't willing and able to research, read and learn how to do this mainly on your own, you shouldn't be doing it at all until you do. | 13:59 |
| leftyfb | do/are | 14:00 |
| abdulhakeem | I'm totally willing, I just like to get pointers in the right direction from actual people from time to time, lest I be wandering around not really sure what I'm looking for | 14:00 |
| abdulhakeem | I run Arch I'm no stranger to reading documentation :P but my home server is Ubuntu 18.04 so I figured I'd ask here | 14:01 |
| abdulhakeem | I will go read now :) | 14:01 |
| leftyfb | abdulhakeem: googling "ubuntu apache virtualhosts" is a good start | 14:01 |
| alekksander | so i had problems with my wifi… based on internet i added somewhere something in hope for fix, but because i was doing zillion other things at the moment i forgot where it was and now when i start system internet enables itself, connects, disconects and connects again | 14:02 |
| alekksander | any idea what that could have been? i think i added double phrase „auto” to some file | 14:02 |
| alekksander | smthng like wlan0 auto, can't recall | 14:03 |
| qwefytuoityty | It's not about why need a swap, the problem is that when working with swap, Linux freezes using the disk at 100% | 14:05 |
| alekksander | lol | 14:05 |
| alekksander | you guys talking about: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/159356 | 14:06 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 159356 in linux (Ubuntu) "When DMA is disabled system freeze on high memory usage" [Low,Incomplete] | 14:06 |
| alekksander | i have same problem. memory full=linux freeze | 14:06 |
| alekksander | no video/photo edditing for me | 14:06 |
| qwefytuoityty | i this problem with version 15 - 18 64 bit , 14 version I not used U-Mate, Xu, Lu, Fedora | 14:09 |
| qwefytuoityty | this problem with version 15 - 18 64 bit , 14 version I not used U-Mate, Xu, Lu, Fedora | 14:09 |
| empedokles78 | In inkscape my screen won't get redrawn at times. What causes this? | 14:11 |
| qwefytuoityty | This is the third person who writes about what I write | 14:11 |
| mojtaba | Hello, Do you know how can I print to PDF all of the emails that I have received with a specific criteria? like from a specific sender? (I am using Thunderbird, but I am not bound to it.) | 14:13 |
| qwefytuoityty | The more memory the less complaints of freezes when accessing swap | 14:14 |
| leftyfb | qwefytuoityty: first off, there is no version of ubuntu "15 - 18". Second, please explain in more detail the issue you're seeing. What happens when you enable swap? What happens when you disable swap? If you're running out of disk space, that's not a swap issue but a storage allocation issue. What version of ubuntu are you running right now? | 14:14 |
| vavkamil | hello | 14:19 |
| coz_ | mojtaba, not sure with evolution it used to be gsettings set org.gnome.evolution.mail drag-and-drop-save-file-format 'pdf' | 14:19 |
| vavkamil | is anyone using mozilla firefox on ubuntu 18.04? I tried it yesterday and it's pretty much useless due to an IBUS bug that was firts reported 5 months ago | 14:20 |
| coz_ | mojtaba, not sure that even woeks now | 14:20 |
| coz_ | works | 14:20 |
| mojtaba | coz_: I want to be able to use something like grep on my emails, and then print the found emails | 14:20 |
| coz_ | mojtaba, then I am not sure, I played with this other than whatt I already posted, someone at some point could answer better | 14:21 |
| chaslinux | Can't seem to find python3-sbmc after upgrading to 18.04. Have universe enabled and it should be there... but apt search python3-sbmc turns up zip. | 14:21 |
| coconut | adrian_1908: no they aren't i guess... but will gsconnect work with _any_ android phone? (i might buy an andriod phone instead). | 14:22 |
| ioria | !info python3-smbc | 14:23 |
| ubottu | python3-smbc (source: pysmbc): Python 3 bindings for the Samba client library. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.15.6-1build2 (bionic), package size 17 kB, installed size 66 kB | 14:23 |
| mojtaba | coz_: thanks | 14:23 |
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| adrian_1908 | coconut: No idea, sorry. | 14:23 |
| qwefytuoityty | version linux 15, 16, 17, 18 U-Mate, Xu, Lu, Fedora 64 bit. RAM 4GB, HDD 1TB. Swap partition 4 GB, BTRFS. When no free memory + in swap have saze 10-20% are occupied + Firefox many open pages = freezes Linux + 100% load HDD as in video. The same in Virtual machine. | 14:24 |
| qwefytuoityty | help only resest PS or Virtual machine | 14:25 |
| qwefytuoityty | PS=PC | 14:25 |
| qwefytuoityty | swap partiton 10 GB | 14:26 |
| qwefytuoityty | 4gb HDD in virtual machine | 14:27 |
| qwefytuoityty | swap 4gb HDD in virtual machine | 14:28 |
| qwefytuoityty | host windows | 14:28 |
| leftyfb | !ru | qwefytuoityty | 14:30 |
| ubottu | qwefytuoityty: Пожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke. | 14:30 |
| leftyfb | qwefytuoityty: maybe you'll have better luck there. It's really tough to understand what you're saying. | 14:30 |
| === capella|away is now known as capella | ||
| ilias_gr | hi all. as far as i remember there is a terminal command to check which programs are supported up to which date/year. does any one know how is it exactly this command? | 14:36 |
| ioria | ilias_gr, commands i don't think so, maybe you mean packages ? | 14:37 |
| ilias_gr | ioria: i know there is a command to check packages end's life | 14:38 |
| ioria | ilias_gr, yes, /usr/bin/ubuntu-support-status | 14:38 |
| ilias_gr | ioria: ok, how can i check it? | 14:39 |
| ioria | ilias_gr, i told you | 14:40 |
| ilias_gr | ioria: i found this script, what next? | 14:40 |
| ioria | ilias_gr, just run 'ubuntu-support-status' | 14:41 |
| cluelessperson | Does anyone know how to get ubuntu to switch sound output device? | 14:41 |
| cluelessperson | it seems stuck on hdmi out | 14:41 |
| ilias_gr | ioria: through terminal i suppose | 14:42 |
| ioria | ilias_gr, sure | 14:42 |
| ilias_gr | oh ye's itats, th | 14:42 |
| Hulio | hi | 14:42 |
| ilias_gr | that's it | 14:42 |
| Hulio | what's cooking? | 14:42 |
| qwefytuoityty | They can not help me. I saw a similar topic in the Russian forum. Topic starter say I bought more memory | 14:42 |
| ilias_gr | ioria: i got this: https://pastebin.com/4NqK9D9a. Is there any way to see more details about those packages? | 14:44 |
| ioria | ilias_gr, 'Run with --show-unsupported, --show-supported or --show-all to see more details | 14:45 |
| ioria | ' | 14:45 |
| ilias_gr | ioria: You have right ! I just read it ! | 14:45 |
| ioria | ok | 14:45 |
| ilias_gr | ioria: thank you for your help | 14:46 |
| ioria | ilias_gr, no problem | 14:46 |
| === jakcyyy is now known as Dreaman | ||
| ChaiTRex | qwefytuoityty: I'm not too familiar with Firefox, but there are two main options to stop your system from slowing down a lot during swapping: you can add memory to your virtual machine or you can reduce the memory that Firefox takes up (https://www.google.com/search?q=reduce+firefox+memory+usage). | 14:48 |
| ChaiTRex | qwefytuoityty: This is assuming that Firefox is on the virtual machine. | 14:48 |
| ChaiTRex | qwefytuoityty: If not, the only option is to reduce Firefox memory usage. | 14:49 |
| ChaiTRex | qwefytuoityty: Or to reduce the memory used by the VM. | 14:49 |
| === wodencafe is now known as WdoNeCFea | ||
| mustmodify | My ubuntu instance on EC2 suddely became unresponsive. I tried to restart it from the EC2 console. For 10 minutes, nothing happened. I then tried to stop it and EC2 offered to "force-kill" it. That took another 10 or so minutes. What logs can I check or other tests can I perform to see what caused it to go down and then to be so hard to restart? | 14:56 |
| adrian_1908 | mustmodify: also try #ubuntu-server | 15:00 |
| mustmodify | ok thanks. | 15:01 |
| daum | any ideas why groups MY_USER shows a number of groups, but just typing "groups" as my user only brings back the primary group of my user. I've rebooted, and still the same. If I sudo into my own user it properly shows the groups | 15:02 |
| throstur | I'm remoting into an Ubuntu machine which doesn't seem to support TERM=cygwin colors. What should I do instead OR what should I request the sysadmin install for me? | 15:05 |
| JimBuntu | throstur, you could go with TERM=linux | 15:09 |
| cluelessperson | Does anyone know how to fix the sound output in Ubuntu? | 15:10 |
| cluelessperson | I connected an HDMI cable, ubuntu switched to hdmi out | 15:10 |
| cluelessperson | and now it won't switch back to internal speakers | 15:10 |
| cluelessperson | tried pulseaudio -k it just restarts | 15:10 |
| cluelessperson | no audio works | 15:10 |
| === WdoNeCFea is now known as wodencafe | ||
| throstur | JimBuntu: doesn't seem to fix my color problem | 15:17 |
| throstur | ehh, probably something changed on remote, who cares | 15:20 |
| leftyfb | cluelessperson: did you check the sound settings in the GUI? | 15:21 |
| cluelessperson | leftyfb: yes, ther's nothing to select other than the master output | 15:21 |
| cluelessperson | leftyfb: I just installs pavucontrol and that showed me that pulseaudio had set the hdmi output for the cmus application specifically | 15:21 |
| cluelessperson | so ubuntu system sounds were working, but the application was set to hdmi | 15:21 |
| cluelessperson | I was able to switch it there in pavucontrol | 15:22 |
| leftyfb | cluelessperson: right, master output should be where you select HDMI or speakers as your output | 15:22 |
| BenderRodriguez | what in the world | 15:32 |
| BenderRodriguez | why is ubuntu server advertising bit.ly links in motd banners at login | 15:33 |
| BenderRodriguez | what is Canonical doing? | 15:33 |
| moffa | BenderRodriguez: You are complaining to the wrong people | 15:34 |
| BenderRodriguez | is this not the ubuntu room? | 15:34 |
| BenderRodriguez | where else if not here? | 15:34 |
| moffa | The developers do not live here... this is a support channel | 15:35 |
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| BluesKaj | BenderRodriguez, try #ubuntu-devel | 15:38 |
| blackflow | BenderRodriguez: see (and vote at) bug #1789850 | 15:51 |
| ubottu | bug 1789850 in update-motd (Ubuntu) "Advertising in the MOTD" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1789850 | 15:51 |
| BenderRodriguez | blackflow: they're even trying to defend it there | 15:52 |
| BenderRodriguez | ugh... | 15:52 |
| BenderRodriguez | alright, I'll vote | 15:52 |
| BenderRodriguez | wait, blackflow, how do you vote? | 15:52 |
| blackflow | BenderRodriguez: mark it that it affects you, edit mail to receive all updates, all that raises its heat score | 15:54 |
| blackflow | btw, someone should post there that Ubuntu has its own shortener. really no need to use a ccTLD, especially a c such as .ly | 15:55 |
| === arunkumar413_ is now known as arunkumar413 | ||
| daum | any ideas why groups MY_USER shows a number of groups, but just typing "groups" as my user only brings back the primary group of my user. I've rebooted, and still the same. If I sudo into my own user it properly shows the groups | 16:05 |
| blackflow | daum: which DE and display manager? | 16:08 |
| daum | KDE, DE? | 16:08 |
| cluelessperson | daum: first command shows you all the groups your user is in | 16:08 |
| cluelessperson | daum: groups file has multiple entries, adding a user to a group, I think | 16:08 |
| blackflow | hrm... someone else reported the same few weeks ago but they used a WM and it seemed like that was the issue. sounds like a persistent bug somewhere | 16:09 |
| blackflow | cluelessperson: they should list the same groups | 16:09 |
| daum | blackflow, ok thanks will try to see what i can dig up | 16:10 |
| blackflow | what's happening is that some process in the chain from the terminal up, is doing privilege drop and losing GIDs | 16:10 |
| blackflow | so teh terminal inherits the reduced list of effective GIDs. when you run groups <username> you're seeing re-calculated list of groups based on /etc/groups | 16:11 |
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| === SimonNL_Afk is now known as SimonNL | ||
| complib2891 | hi, i'm having this issue `modprobe: FATAL: Module xt_geoip not found in directory /lib/modules/4.9.93-mainline-rev1` | 16:27 |
| complib2891 | sudn't after `apt install xtables-addons-common` I should be able to use the geoip module in iptables? | 16:27 |
| complib2891 | i'm using Bionic | 16:27 |
| leftyfb | complib2891: 4.9? | 16:28 |
| leftyfb | with bionic you should be on 4.15 | 16:29 |
| leftyfb | complib2891: is this a VPS? | 16:29 |
| DWSR | Hi there, does DNE on this page mean "Does Not Exist"? https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/2018/CVE-2018-15473.html | 16:35 |
| JimBuntu | DWSR, yeah, the package doesn't exist within the lineage | 16:40 |
| DWSR | OK. | 16:40 |
| DWSR | My basic summary of the information on that page: The CVE is still waiting to be triaged for all in-support LTS releases and the only way to solve that CVE (if we needed to) would be to apply patches ourselves. | 16:41 |
| DWSR | About right? | 16:41 |
| JimBuntu | DWSR, I think that would be the sanest approach. | 16:42 |
| DWSR | Wonderful. Thanks! | 16:43 |
| Helenah | Where do I get the gnome atkwrapper from? | 17:05 |
| tharkun | Good $DAY, I need php7.4 on a server but it automagically downloads the apache2 when that server has nginx allready running. How can I uninstall apache from the server without screwing nginx? | 17:15 |
| tharkun | Sorry for my English I am indeed a bit underslept | 17:15 |
| tharkun | If that can't be achieved how can I be certain that apache will not try to start upon reboot? | 17:20 |
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| xet7 | tharkun: sudo systemctl stop apache2 && sudo systemctl disable apache2 | 17:21 |
| tharkun | xet7: :* | 17:21 |
| sarex | Hi everyone! I made my iso with linux live kit and all. Now when i boot from the usb stick. It's stuck at: syslinux 6.03 copyright (c) 1994-2014 h. Peter .... Can anyone help? Thanks :) | 17:22 |
| tharkun | sarex: Did you check that the image you installed was the one you want/need? | 17:23 |
| fr0xk | sarex: Are you sure the ISO written to USB is not corrupted? | 17:23 |
| xet7 | sarex: booting from USB depends from BIOS/UEFI settings https://secretchronicles.org/en/news/2018/06/16/bootable-usb-image-available/ | 17:23 |
| pavlos | sarex: can you pass the nomodeset parameter to the kernel boot line? | 17:25 |
| sarex | Well i acually my mbr is installed on another usb and the boot with it its ok. Yes is the right image. | 17:26 |
| sarex | Well actually doing all the stuff with linux live kit I didnt use an iso | 17:26 |
| royal_screwup21 | I have two directories foo/ and bar/ I want to get the # of files in both dirs. What's a one liner to do that? (I know I can cd into each dir and then `ls | wc -l` but looking for a shorter solution ) | 17:27 |
| nacc | royal_screwup21: that sounds like a shell scripting question, maybe #bash ? | 17:27 |
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| sarex | Anyone used linux live kit? | 17:29 |
| xet7 | rpual_screwup21: ls foo | wc -l && ls bar | wc -l | 17:32 |
| pavlos | royal_screwup21: ls -1 somedir/ | wc -l | 17:32 |
| royal_screwup21 | thanks folks | 17:32 |
| nacc | royal_screwup21: tbc, you rarely have to cd to a directory to run a command about that directory | 17:33 |
| sarex | Pavlos how to do that? | 17:33 |
| royal_screwup21 | this works for me, but I just learned on #bash that it isn't the "most correct" solution. | 17:33 |
| royal_screwup21 | they recommend: foofiles=(foo/*) numfoofiles=${#foofiles[@]}" | 17:33 |
| pavlos | sarex: when your system boots up, holding the shift should offer GRUB options and you can modify the kernel line adding nomodeset | 17:34 |
| sarex | Thanks pavlos gonna try now | 17:35 |
| TML | What replaces ifdown in bionic? | 17:35 |
| sarex | Nothing happen actuallt | 17:36 |
| sarex | Actually | 17:36 |
| tomreyn | !releasenotes | TML | 17:36 |
| ubottu | TML: Ubuntu 18.04 (Bionic Beaver) release notes can be found here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BionicBeaver/ReleaseNotes | 17:36 |
| tomreyn | "ip" | 17:36 |
| pavlos | sarex: if shift does not work maybe ESC key might work. The idea is to get to the GRUB menu | 17:37 |
| TML | tomreyn: thanks - there's a bunch of bad Google hits that still tell you to use ifup/ifdown | 17:37 |
| sarex | Pavlos esc doesnt work either :/ probably corrupted? | 17:38 |
| nacc | TML: `ip link ... {up,down}` | 17:38 |
| TML | and the commands are actually installed on this box, they just don't seem to know about any of the NICs | 17:38 |
| pavlos | sarex: somekey should work to allow you to enter GRUB | 17:38 |
| Hulio | hi guys | 17:39 |
| sarex | Pavlos could be a combination? | 17:39 |
| pavlos | which ubuntu release did you make? | 17:39 |
| sarex | Xubuntu 16.04 tried all my keyboards key | 17:40 |
| TML | nacc: Thank you as well. | 17:40 |
| pavlos | sarex: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2363409 | 17:42 |
| sarex | Thanks pavlos gonna try | 17:43 |
| implite | Hello I have 17.04 and I cant get it to install my software from ubuntu software | 17:46 |
| implite | i could use help with this | 17:46 |
| lotus|NUC | implite: 17.04 is end of life | 17:46 |
| nacc | !eol | implite | 17:46 |
| ubottu | implite: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades | 17:46 |
| fr0xk | implite: Upgrade to 18.04 | 17:46 |
| lotus|NUC | implite: install a supported version fro the topic mate | 17:46 |
| implite | is there a way that i cant get apt to work with it? | 17:46 |
| fr0xk | implite: What? | 17:47 |
| lotus|NUC | see the link nacc provided | 17:47 |
| tomreyn | !eolupgrade | implite | 17:47 |
| ubottu | implite: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades | 17:47 |
| nacc | implite: read the links | 17:47 |
| nacc | implite: but keep in mind, you are now two releases out of date. | 17:47 |
| fr0xk | implite: Install Ubuntu 18.04 now | 17:47 |
| nacc | implite: your system is insecure and full of bugs :) | 17:47 |
| fr0xk | nacc: After 6 month in 18.10.. ur system is full of bugs :D | 17:48 |
| nacc | fr0xk: heh, also true, for a different reason ;) | 17:48 |
| fr0xk | nacc: :D | 17:49 |
| implite | cant i keep this system and just install stuff from files? even when i use a .deb file it makes some problem | 17:51 |
| nacc | implite: no, don't do that. | 17:51 |
| nacc | implite: you really need to reinstall | 17:51 |
| fr0xk | implite: No, don't do that. Partital system upgrades can break your system into a horrible level | 17:51 |
| sarex | Pavlos i used linux live kit. There's no /etc/ or grub files | 17:52 |
| fr0xk | partial* | 17:52 |
| sarex | In the boot folder there syslinux.cfg vmlinuz ecx | 17:54 |
| implite | ok then i cant just reinstall this system because i have software on it now i dont want to lose... is there some way to export everything i have without losing anything when i install newest version | 17:55 |
| implite | ? | 17:55 |
| pavlos | sarex: if I understood, you used linux live kit to make your own distro. But you said you did not create an iso ? | 17:56 |
| implite | i dont just mean backup but like keep all my settings and stuff for the software that i have installed now? | 17:56 |
| nacc | implite: not easily, no. Take a backup and do what you can. | 17:57 |
| mojtaba | Hello, Do you know how can I print to PDF all of the emails that I have received with a specific criteria? like from a specific sender? (I am using Thunderbird, but I am not bound to it.) | 17:58 |
| implite | hmmmm.. can i make a virtual machine of this install somehow? | 17:59 |
| implite | i think that will help if i learn how to dd into an iso i think.. | 17:59 |
| sarex | pavlos, i used llk to make my distro wich was installed on a usb stick. Then i extracted the zip file of the image within another usb stick. Runned the script bootinst.sh to make it bootable. Now when i boot its stuck at isolinux... | 17:59 |
| implite | how to copy this all into an iso using dd command? | 18:00 |
| pavlos | sarex: have not used llk; maybe someone familiar may help ... Are there forums for llk to check? | 18:02 |
| implite | will this work as and iso for a virtual machine if i dont want to lose my software? dd if=/dev/sda1 of=/backup/backup.iso | 18:09 |
| implite | ok i guess we are ignoring my question now or just dont know? | 18:16 |
| nacc | implite: iso for virtual machine? what do you mean? | 18:17 |
| nacc | implite: it won't make it installable in a VM just by having it in an iso | 18:17 |
| implite | ok as a .raw then | 18:17 |
| JimBuntu | implite, for use with a virtual machine, I'm thinking you would need the complete drive, not the partition. This will certainly depend on how you intend to use it with a virtual machine. My only experience was with CD/DVD ISOs | 18:17 |
| nacc | implite: you are just making a backup? | 18:17 |
| nacc | implite: it has nothing to do with VMs if you are just making a backup | 18:17 |
| implite | instead of iso .raw | 18:17 |
| implite | i think i can boot qmu with this later | 18:18 |
| nacc | implite: still VM is irrelevant. You are just making a disk copy | 18:18 |
| implite | ill try | 18:18 |
| nacc | implite: well, you'd need to backup the *disk* as JimBuntu said, not the partition | 18:18 |
| implite | i saw that someone tried dd if=/dev/sdc bs=8M of=/home/me/sdc.raw | 18:19 |
| ducasse | implite: dd won't make an iso, it will make a block-by-block image | 18:19 |
| implite | i might try that later | 18:19 |
| nacc | implite: tbh, there really can't be that much important data on a system that hasn't received any updates in months | 18:20 |
| lovepopsickle | this wiki is incorrect it says there is a torbrowser-launcher in 18.04 in apparmor-profiles but I do not see it in profiles or extra: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/KnowledgeBase/AppArmorProfiles | 18:23 |
| lotus|NUC | !info torbrowser-launcher | lovepopsickle | 18:24 |
| ubottu | lovepopsickle: torbrowser-launcher (source: torbrowser-launcher): helps download and run the Tor Browser Bundle. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.9-2 (bionic), package size 210 kB, installed size 349 kB (Only available for i386; amd64) | 18:24 |
| lovepopsickle | I am talking about the apparmor profile not the package | 18:24 |
| lovepopsickle | the package does not have apparmor profiles in it from what I can see | 18:25 |
| nacc | lovepopsickle: asking a relevant developer | 18:28 |
| lovepopsickle | well he said debian is supported not ubuntu because he said they keep changing something | 18:28 |
| lovepopsickle | i was curious why the wiki was saying that | 18:29 |
| nacc | lovepopsickle: no, i mean I am asking one, an ubuntu one. | 18:29 |
| lovepopsickle | nice | 18:29 |
| lovepopsickle | thanks | 18:29 |
| lovepopsickle | there are already some out there for tbb that are debian based its probably just a one or few lines of code to fix it :) | 18:29 |
| === SimonNL is now known as SimonNL_Afk | ||
| ChunkzZ | if I download a rar/zip/7zip file and it's got multiple parts, how can I extract them all from a console on a headless ubuntu image? | 18:58 |
| ChunkzZ | I can't seem to find any decent info. | 18:58 |
| migs76 | hello | 18:58 |
| migs76 | I am not sure if I am in the right place, but I am trying to figure out why I have the following error when I try to connect to airplayer - to screencast. https://pastebin.com/GVFcd1bT. | 19:00 |
| kumool | ChunkzZ, headless? | 19:01 |
| kumool | ChunkzZ, is that like, a live cd? | 19:01 |
| ChunkzZ | kumool, a server. | 19:07 |
| ChunkzZ | so I don't have access to a desktop, no screen output... just over network aka SSH. < kumool | 19:07 |
| kumool | so you're asking for what command to use to extract a spliced archive? | 19:08 |
| ChunkzZ | yeah for rars, zips and p7zip files... | 19:09 |
| ChunkzZ | mainly rars though | 19:09 |
| ChunkzZ | how do I combine them to rar it all together? | 19:09 |
| ChunkzZ | like, multiple parts... | 19:09 |
| gpunk | if the compression algorithm allows it you can use cat | 19:13 |
| gpunk | otherwise uncompress all and recompress to one file | 19:14 |
| ChunkzZ | I would if I knew how.. | 19:14 |
| ChunkzZ | lol | 19:14 |
| gpunk | well, u need to try ... | 19:15 |
| outoftime | My "Alcor Micro Corp. Flash Drive" didn't work. `lsusb` shows that there are device, `dmesg` confirms that flash drive is attached "sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Attached SCSI removable disk" but I can not see it via `lsblk` | 19:15 |
| ChunkzZ | gpunk, try what? | 19:16 |
| ChunkzZ | lol | 19:16 |
| gpunk | "cat"ing them into one file | 19:16 |
| ChunkzZ | ? | 19:16 |
| outoftime | ChunkzZ: `cat` is the command line command, read manual for more info. | 19:17 |
| ChunkzZ | gpunk, like this file.. has 2 parts.. part2.rar.html | 19:17 |
| kumool | gpunk, it wont work, each archive has metadata on it | 19:17 |
| gpunk | i said if :) | 19:18 |
| ChunkzZ | found it, can I deleted the rar file after it's extracted? | 19:20 |
| ChunkzZ | delete* | 19:20 |
| gpunk | it is up to you | 19:21 |
| ChunkzZ | how? | 19:21 |
| ChunkzZ | so once it's extracted, the file auto deletes... | 19:21 |
| gpunk | unrar --help ? | 19:22 |
| kumool | ChunkzZ, how did you do it? | 19:23 |
| ChunkzZ | unrar x -de but it didn't delete the rars, ugh. | 19:25 |
| ChunkzZ | suppose I'll have to do this: rm *.rar | 19:27 |
| ikonia | /win 1 | 19:28 |
| kumool | thats weird because the manpage of unrar says this NOTE: Every switch must be separated by a whitespace. You cannot put them together. | 19:32 |
| kumool | ChunkzZ, that doesn't work for me, are you sure it worked? | 19:32 |
| PeterAndersson | Hi i installed ubuntu server today then installed some docker images and mounted some samba file shares, now when i restart the server i get "EMERGENCY" and its telling me to look in the journal using journalctl -xb, what should i look for the list is huge! but i managed to filter it -p 4, https://i.imgur.com/W6tQyz1.png what could be causing this issue? | 19:37 |
| _KaszpiR_ | PeterAndersson in general it means you need more ram on the server | 19:40 |
| ChunkzZ | yeah kumool it worked | 19:45 |
| ChunkzZ | it extracted the 2 rar files but didn't delete them, I deleted them wit: rm *.rar | 19:46 |
| ChunkzZ | with* | 19:46 |
| ChunkzZ | happy days. :) | 19:47 |
| * ChunkzZ bed time | 19:47 | |
| PeterAndersson | I think I managed to find and fix the error! | 19:47 |
| Hulio | why aren't anyone chat? | 20:01 |
| Hulio | No one force you not to chat :) | 20:02 |
| hggdh | Hulio: this is not a generic chat channel | 20:03 |
| === lyze1 is now known as lyze | ||
| Bilz | i have windows 10 and ubuntu dual booting on my laptop hard drive. i then installed a second hard drive, and then installed windows 10 and ubuntu on there. however, they don't show in my boot menu, the old windows 10 and ubuntu show. i guess it's showing the wrong boot menu for me. how can i fix this? | 20:14 |
| Bilz | ideally, for the time being, i'd like the new hard drive to show the boot menu, and give me options to load any of my (now 4) operating systems | 20:15 |
| gpunk | man grub-install | 20:16 |
| Jordan_U | Bilz: UEFI or BIOS? | 20:17 |
| Bilz | Jordan_U, not sure what you mean. I believe my set up is UEFI (not legacy boot) | 20:18 |
| Bilz | i also have a /boot/efi partition | 20:18 |
| Bilz | my /boot/efi partition is on my first hard drive, not the new one | 20:19 |
| Bilz | if that's the one that is in charge of handling the boot menu, i'd rather it was on my new hard drive (as I intended to eventually remove old operating systems OS on old hard drive | 20:19 |
| lovepopsickle | nacc, did they say anything yet? | 20:38 |
| === lyze1 is now known as lyze | ||
| Bilz | (if anyone responded, I got disconnected :( ) | 20:49 |
| Gup | Is there a channel for banshee related dev, or do we chat in here? | 21:07 |
| paul98 | hi, i've a ubuntu 18.04 download, made a usb bootable, I have a windows 10 dell xps laptop, I boot from usb and I get the ubuntu logo with the 5 dots, 4 go red and last stays white then it hangs, anyway of telling what issue is? | 21:08 |
| _KaszpiR_ | paul98 press escape, should show console | 21:10 |
| _KaszpiR_ | (or tab, I cant remember) | 21:11 |
| paul98 | says watchdog detected hard lockup on cpu 5 | 21:19 |
| paul98 | bug sdoft lockup cpu5 stuck for 23s | 21:20 |
| paul98 | blocking rcumode structures then hangs | 21:20 |
| stoner19 | ok, strange thing. all of a sudden a machine on my LAN that is running ubuntu server is not allowing me to SSH to it. directly on the machine I have access to the internet and I've checked the IP using ifconfig. correct IP I'm trying to ssh to. Set static IP in my router. uwf shows 22 (ssh) enabled. But I can't ping it from another machine in my LAN | 21:22 |
| stoner19 | tried flushing DHCP (which is probably unnecessary) | 21:23 |
| stoner19 | also, the list of clients on my router, that machine does NOT show up, even though it has access to the internet | 21:26 |
| _KaszpiR_ | stoner19 reboot machine | 21:30 |
| stoner19 | yeah, that was my first step :P | 21:30 |
| stoner19 | should have mentioned that | 21:30 |
| jeremy31 | stoner19 router also? | 21:31 |
| stoner19 | yep | 21:31 |
| stoner19 | and updated the router firmware, just because | 21:31 |
| stoner19 | guess I could disable ufw and see if that helps things, then slowly re-add ports to iptables | 21:32 |
| stoner19 | wonder if somehow ssh enable got disabled on restart | 21:33 |
| stoner19 | will try systemctl enable ssh see if that fixes things | 21:33 |
| tomreyn | stoner19: ip address conflict (2+ devices configured to use the same address) is a possible explanation | 21:48 |
| stoner19 | tomreyn very good possibility. I ran sudo systemctl enable ssh and that seems to have fixed it | 21:49 |
| stoner19 | another question...@reboot exec $HOME/daemon_dir/src/ daemon | 21:49 |
| tomreyn | i dont think enable would start it, though, unless you also rebooted | 21:49 |
| stoner19 | is this the proper way to start a daemon on reboot? | 21:50 |
| stoner19 | via crontab | 21:50 |
| tomreyn | the right way to start a daemon is a systemd service, unless you'Re on 14.04, then it's an upstart job | 21:53 |
| arooni | anyway to find out what meta/alt + z is bound to? i cant use it for other shortcuts | 21:54 |
| === RNM2 is now known as RNM | ||
| RNM | Use systemD | 21:56 |
| tomreyn | stoner19: the first non option argument to 'exec' should be a command, not a path | 21:57 |
| stoner19 | ah so do @reboot exec generic_daemon $HOME/generic_daemon/src/ | 22:00 |
| isene | How do I change the default filemanager to urxvt+ranger? Where is that association located (what file)? | 22:05 |
| energizer | hello, gmail freezes chrome, requiring sigkill. i dont know how to fix this. | 22:37 |
| stack_over_flow | you using the latest version of chrome? | 22:37 |
| Guest50286 | I've accidentially removed /usr/local/bin (yeah, I know...) -- could someone tell me whether /usr/local/bin is just a symlink to some other directory on 18.04, or I'm totally screwed? | 22:37 |
| RNM | How many tab you have there? | 22:38 |
| energizer | stack_over_flow: Version 68.0.3440.106 (Official Build) (64-bit) | 22:38 |
| Mat001 | energizer, too new versions sometimes cause problems too | 22:38 |
| RNM | You are totally screwed | 22:39 |
| energizer | RNM: any number of tabs | 22:39 |
| Guest50286 | :| | 22:39 |
| energizer | Guest50286: there is a famous story about a similar situation | 22:39 |
| Guest50286 | yeah, there are a lot of stories like this :P | 22:40 |
| Guest50286 | for now, everything works, I consider just not turning off my computer forever | 22:40 |
| krytarik | Guest50286: Do you know anything you had in there anyway? Because it certainly won't be from the distro. | 22:41 |
| Guest50286 | No, I don't | 22:42 |
| Guest50286 | oh, so this is good | 22:42 |
| Guest50286 | I thought some subset of bins from packages was there, I have almost none applications installed outside apt | 22:42 |
| energizer | Guest50286: this one https://linuxgazette.net/137/lg_foolish.html | 22:42 |
| Guest50286 | possibly there was (almost) nothing in that case | 22:42 |
| Guest50286 | thanks for help! | 22:46 |
| krytarik | Sure! | 22:46 |
| stack_over_flow | sudo rm -rf / | 22:51 |
| stack_over_flow | for the win | 22:51 |
| jeremy31 | stack_over_flow Just no | 22:51 |
| nacc | !danger | 23:12 |
| ubottu | DO NOT RUN THAT COMMAND! That particular command is DANGEROUS and shouldn't be uttered here. REST OF YOU: DANGER, WILL ROBINSON, DANGER! Do not use the command or utter it here thank you! | 23:12 |
| nacc | just an fyi, jeremy31 :) we have a faq trigger when someone does that | 23:12 |
| jeremy31 | nacc on other channels I would just notify OPs and have them banned | 23:13 |
| nacc | jeremy31: fair point | 23:15 |
| firelegend | Hi all. I downloaded the latest ubuntu amd64 ISO and burned it on a USB stick with Rufus. The installation loaded, but was freezing and after searching I found that I needed to add acpi=off and nomodeset in the grub boot options, then the installer did not freeze, but it crashed saying it could not copy a grub efi file. | 23:19 |
| firelegend | How do I proceed? | 23:19 |
| jeremy31 | firelegend Try installing without internet connection | 23:20 |
| firelegend | I did, it's on a laptop you see. | 23:21 |
| firelegend | But it's just not working out. | 23:21 |
| firelegend | How I proceeded the installation also, was that I had a / mount point(the root filesystem) and another ext4 partition where the boot files would be. | 23:22 |
| jeremy31 | firelegend Did you see an error about not being able to install grub-efi to /target? | 23:22 |
| firelegend | Yes! | 23:22 |
| jeremy31 | firelegend I haven't seen that happen when installing without internet | 23:23 |
| firelegend | There seems to be some incompatability then | 23:23 |
| firelegend | with ubuntu 18 and my laptop | 23:23 |
| jeremy31 | firelegend Ubuntu 18.04 ISO or 18.04.1 ISO? | 23:24 |
| firelegend | The one on the webpage | 23:24 |
| firelegend | 18.04.1 | 23:24 |
| firelegend | I used Rufus and burned it as MBR BIOS OR UEFI | 23:24 |
| firelegend | I tried GPT but then it wasn't even getting detected | 23:25 |
| jeremy31 | firelegend See if you can find and download the original 18.04 as the 18.04.1 might have made the issue worse | 23:25 |
| firelegend | Made it worse? How so? | 23:25 |
| jeremy31 | firelegend I have done many test installs with Ubuntu 18.04 ISO and because of some updates I could not install with an internet connection. It is possible these updates are part of the Ubuntu 18.04.1 install | 23:27 |
| firelegend | I see, thanks for the heads up. | 23:27 |
| firelegend | However acpi=off and nomodeset also have to be set for me | 23:27 |
| firelegend | to even progress with installation | 23:27 |
| jeremy31 | firelegend Nvidia graphics? | 23:28 |
| firelegend | Yes, i5-8300h and gtx 1050 laptop | 23:28 |
| firelegend | If there was some way to log the kernel messages, that would be nice. View them later for the specific error. | 23:30 |
| leosemilie | when cupsd is running what sort of network printer does it discover? | 23:31 |
| jeremy31 | firelegend once installed you should be able to install an Nvidia driver that will work and you shouldn't need nomodeset | 23:31 |
| firelegend | jeremy31: If only I can get grub efi to get installed | 23:32 |
| firelegend | It seems it's more difficult to install things on laptops | 23:34 |
| firelegend | very locked down devices | 23:34 |
| firelegend | and boot order and uefi/legacy settings are dodgy | 23:34 |
| jeremy31 | firelegend you might have to mount the EFI partition, see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/1783044 and see if it helps | 23:39 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1783044 in grub2 (Ubuntu) "grub-efi-amd64 postinst fails to install GRUB if /boot/efi/EFI/ubuntu/ is not present" [Medium,Confirmed] | 23:39 |
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