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lubot<tsimonq2> @TheWendyPower Do you have Twitter? Also, what's your website URL?00:38
lubot<TheWendyPower> Website is wendyhillphoto.com00:58
lubot<tsimonq2> OK, thanks.00:58
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lubot<tsimonq2> Fwd from Lubuntu Announcements: Lubuntu Development Newsletter #11 is out!01:29
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tsimonq2https://lubuntu.me/lubuntu-development-newsletter-11/01:30
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lubot<tsimonq2> Testing that the IRC bridge joined fine.01:44
tsimonq2Cool.01:44
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lubot<tsimonq2> Welcome!02:31
lubot<tsimonq2> Oh, shoot. Unclear newsletter is unclear.03:24
lubot<tsimonq2> Fixed.03:34
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lubotKeigan The Tennessean was added by: Keigan The Tennessean03:41
wxltesting is pretty simple03:42
wxlyou just follow the testcase to install and report any bugs you see03:42
wxlbtw you should get a username so those of us on IRC can actually mention you if needed03:42
lubot<Keigan The Tennessean> I've never used IRC03:43
wxli mean a telegram username03:43
lubot<Keigan The Tennessean> @wxl [<wxl> i mean a telegram username], oh lol must have forgot to do that03:44
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T65: ISO size] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) just created this task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T6503:44
lubot<tsimonq2> Heyyyy, @KeiganTroutt is it!03:46
lubot<tsimonq2> :)03:46
lubot<KeiganTroutt> Sho nuff03:46
tsimonq2:D03:47
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T65: ISO size] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T65#127003:56
lubot<KeiganTroutt> Between a wife and 3 boys, one with down syndrome that has therapy 3 days a week and evening college classes, I have a very limited schedule so I had to pick the one distro I cared most about in helping so here I am.03:56
lubot<tsimonq2> That really means a lot, thank you :)03:57
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T65: ISO size] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T65#127203:58
lubot<KeiganTroutt> @tsimonq2 [That really means a lot, thank you :)], Not a problem. Thanks for everything you guys do. Hope I can help in some way.04:06
wxl@KeiganTroutt i'm sure we can find some way for you to contribute… and we can use all the help we can get04:15
lubot<tsimonq2> ^04:16
lubotchris guiver was added by: chris guiver05:10
lubot<tsimonq2> Welcome chris guiver!05:11
lubot<chris guiver> Thanks Simon :)05:11
lubot<tsimonq2> Thanks for the newsletter correction chris guiver :)05:13
lubot<tsimonq2> Fwd from lugito: <lugito>  3[  13rBLOGb5d3d9d8c764: Thanks to Chris Guiver for spotting a wording mistake!  3]   15tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley)  committed:  2https://phab.lubuntu.me/rBLOGb5d3d9d8c76405:13
lubot<chris guiver> most welcome — i didn't notice the smplayer being swapped out - i use whatever default is... (hence my misunderstanding; but you understood anyway)05:14
lubot<chris guiver> yeah I saw your post on irc & mention of my name... [earlier]05:14
lubot<tsimonq2> Ah :)05:15
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lubot<chris guiver> I've been most impressed with Lubuntu 18.10  !  It's a joy to use  (and I'm mostly using on an old x86 only laptop).  You're doing a great job !!!05:19
lubot<tsimonq2> Thanks :)05:19
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lubot<tsimonq2> I'm willing to bet all of this is being processed now wxl following us freeing up disk space.15:05
lubot<HMollerCl> what's the new "lxpanelctl restart" in Qt?15:50
lubot<tsimonq2> Good question, I don't think we have one...16:13
lubot<HMollerCl> so when panel crashes we have to unlog from console?16:26
lubot<HMollerCl> *log-out16:26
lubot<tsimonq2> Unfortunately that seems to be the case. :/16:26
lubot<HMollerCl> "lxqt-panel restart" might solve some issues16:30
lubot<luca_aleksandr> when is the official iso of Lubutu 18.10 galera? good afternoon and have a nice lunch16:56
lubot<tsimonq2> @luca_aleksandr [when is the official iso of Lubutu 18.10 galera? good afternoon and have a nice …], October 13th :)16:57
lubot<tsimonq2> Er, 18th.16:57
lubot<tsimonq2> 13th is release candidates.16:57
lubot<tsimonq2> Have a good afternoon as well :)16:57
lubot<luca_aleksandr> alias, ja test the 18.10 and at the time of installing the video drive 'did not conclude the installation !!!! - (I use an Nvidia video card)16:58
lubot<tsimonq2> What model?16:58
lubot<tsimonq2> wxl: ^16:58
lubot<luca_aleksandr> Gforce 21016:59
wxlwhat is the specific error?17:01
lubot<luca_aleksandr> however 'at the time I put the repository of my video card and search for my proprietary driver! it gives my driver model (340.107) I try to install it and I did not get it! just this, the rest is beautiful17:01
wxlfirst question: did it work ok with the standard driver?17:02
lubot<luca_aleksandr> yes yes' worked very well! but I would have the most account with the driver installed !! or not ?17:05
lubot<tsimonq2> wxl: Bionic amd64 livefs daily is FTBFS.17:08
lubot<tsimonq2> I get nag emails, do you?17:08
lubot<tsimonq2> If not, we should sign you up for them...17:08
wxl@luca_aleksandr it depends on your use case, i guess. for basic use, the standard driver is usually sufficient. if you're a hardcore gamer or have need to really push your gpu, you'll need the proprietary driver. if you're having trouble getting that, we'll have to look at the actual errors17:08
wxlyiiiiiiiiiiiikes well i guess someone else will be on that @tsimonq2 XD17:08
lubot<tsimonq2> @wxl [<wxl> yiiiiiiiiiiiikes well i guess someone else will be on that @tsimonq2 XD], Half the time, failing LTS dailies are kernel race conditions...17:09
wxlright, that's what i'm saying. everyone will be affected17:09
lubot<tsimonq2> Aaaand, yup.17:09
lubot<tsimonq2> Can you go poke apw / slangasek in -release?17:10
lubot<luca_aleksandr> I'm not a player 'I like to do Rewiew and things to type, I play games only in Mugen's outside that' daily use (music, inkscape, gimp)17:13
wxl@luca_aleksandr then i would suggest trying out the non-proprietary driver and ONLY use the proprietary driver if you need it17:14
lubot<luca_aleksandr> ok ' tanks17:16
lubot<HMollerCl> @luca_aleksandr I've heard there are some problems with nvidia 340 in newer Kernels.17:16
lubot<luca_aleksandr> good ' 😢17:17
lubot<luca_aleksandr> funny that in ubuntu 18.4.1 my driver ran good, since it follows the same base!17:18
lubot<HMollerCl> @luca_aleksandr [good ' 😢], I'm not sure, just what I've heard. Anyway, 18.4.1 has Kernel 4.15 18.10 4.17 or 4.18.17:23
lubot<luca_aleksandr> 18.04.1 kernel 4.1517:24
lubot<HMollerCl> yes, but 18.10 has higher kernel.17:29
lubot<luca_aleksandr> ok17:29
wxl@tsimonq2: actually where are you seeing these livefs fails?17:32
lubot<tsimonq2> @wxl [<wxl> @tsimonq2: actually where are you seeing these livefs fails?], Bionic.18:07
lubot<tsimonq2> amd64 livefs.18:07
wxloh derp18:08
wxladmittedly we're quite a ways away from .218:09
lubot<tsimonq2> Right.18:10
lubot<tsimonq2> See -release, slangasek is giving you nag emails too. :P18:10
wxlwe should turn off next desktop, no?18:10
lubot<tsimonq2> That should already be off?18:10
wxlnot on dailies18:11
wxlbad release manager18:11
wxl@tsimonq2: waiting for linux packages to migrate from proposed for amd64. will resolve itself.18:33
wxl@tsimonq2: the other problem is alternates haven't built since april. apparently they weren't in the .1 release, but that's not mentioned in the release notes???18:34
lubot<tsimonq2> @wxl [<wxl> @tsimonq2: the other problem is alternates haven't built since april. appa …], Adam has the full explanation but we don't do alternate point releases.18:40
wxlah well we should remove those from the dailies, but we should also maybe make a release note somewhere........18:40
wxlprobably on the .1 release and continue to do so on further releases18:41
lubot<tsimonq2> wxl: Well, if we really really want them I guess we can persuade infinity.18:45
wxlalternates are now disabled from bionic18:45
lubot<tsimonq2> OK.18:45
wxlif that's the decision, that's fine. but we need to communicate it well18:45
wxli completely removed all traces of lubuntu next18:45
wxlyou can still see alternates in bionic daily but they're disabled18:46
lubot<tsimonq2> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-cdimage if you want it removed from disk on cdimage.ubuntu.com18:46
lubot<tsimonq2> d-i is weird though; those alternates wouldn't have worked anyway, because it hardcodes the kernel version in there.18:46
lubot<tsimonq2> So any kernel updates break it.18:47
wxlit doesn't exist http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/bionic/daily-live/current/18:47
lubot<tsimonq2> Uh you're blind :)18:47
lubot<tsimonq2> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/bionic/daily/current/18:47
lubot<tsimonq2> If they exist, they're there.18:48
lubot<tsimonq2> So I guess they don't.18:48
lubot<tsimonq2> Cool.18:48
wxlwho's blind now, bat?18:48
lubot<tsimonq2> XD18:48
Wafficusso is the Welcome Center under development for the next release?19:49
Wafficusand what's the difference between LXDE and the new variant?19:49
lubot<tsimonq2> @Wafficus [<Wafficus> so is the Welcome Center under development for the next release?], The Welcome Center needs someone to sit down and plan out UX.19:49
lubot<tsimonq2> And literally *everything* is different between LXDE and the dailies.19:50
Wafficusgotcha19:57
Wafficuswell even if I didn't have UX experience, you just want ideas for how it should look correct?19:58
lubot<tsimonq2> Right.19:59
lyorianawww no plastique Qt widget by default anymore?20:23
lyorianwas that intended or a casualty of removing the broken bb10 stuff?20:23
lyorianAlthough I think LXQt needs a whole new manual20:30
wxlit most certainly does20:30
wxlthat's a project we need to add to the must haves20:30
lyorianhttps://phab.lubuntu.me/T53 ugh I can't edit this20:44
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Unbreak Now!, Open] Must haves for 18.10 release: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T5320:44
tsimonq2wxl: Speaking of that, how's Trojita?20:45
wxlwill try working on it here in the near future, @tsimonq2 ... how's the extra server space coming along *ahem portable container*20:46
wxlfixed @lyorian 20:49
lyorianty wxl20:49
wxlnp. thank YOU20:49
lyorianyeah I have updated that20:52
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lubot<tsimonq2> Welcome @Emanuele65!21:46
lubot<Emanuele65> Thanks!21:47
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