 @TheWendyPower Do you have Twitter? Also, what's your website URL?
 Website is wendyhillphoto.com
 OK, thanks.
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 Fwd from Lubuntu Announcements: Lubuntu Development Newsletter #11 is out!
[01:30] <tsimonq2> https://lubuntu.me/lubuntu-development-newsletter-11/
 Testing that the IRC bridge joined fine.
[01:44] <tsimonq2> Cool.
 Welcome!
 Oh, shoot. Unclear newsletter is unclear.
 Fixed.
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[03:42] <wxl> testing is pretty simple
[03:42] <wxl> you just follow the testcase to install and report any bugs you see
[03:42] <wxl> btw you should get a username so those of us on IRC can actually mention you if needed
[03:43] <wxl> i mean a telegram username
[03:44] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T65: ISO size] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) just created this task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T65
 Heyyyy, @KeiganTroutt is it!
 :)
 Sho nuff
[03:47] <tsimonq2> :D
[03:56] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T65: ISO size] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T65#1270
 Between a wife and 3 boys, one with down syndrome that has therapy 3 days a week and evening college classes, I have a very limited schedule so I had to pick the one distro I cared most about in helping so here I am.
 That really means a lot, thank you :)
[03:58] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T65: ISO size] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T65#1272
 @tsimonq2 [That really means a lot, thank you :)], Not a problem. Thanks for everything you guys do. Hope I can help in some way.
[04:15] <wxl> @KeiganTroutt i'm sure we can find some way for you to contribute… and we can use all the help we can get
 ^
 Welcome chris guiver!
 Thanks for the newsletter correction chris guiver :)
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 Ah :)
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 Thanks :)
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 I'm willing to bet all of this is being processed now wxl following us freeing up disk space.
 what's the new "lxpanelctl restart" in Qt?
 Good question, I don't think we have one...
 so when panel crashes we have to unlog from console?
 *log-out
 Unfortunately that seems to be the case. :/
 "lxqt-panel restart" might solve some issues
 when is the official iso of Lubutu 18.10 galera? good afternoon and have a nice lunch
 @luca_aleksandr [when is the official iso of Lubutu 18.10 galera? good afternoon and have a nice …], October 13th :)
 Er, 18th.
 13th is release candidates.
 Have a good afternoon as well :)
 alias, ja test the 18.10 and at the time of installing the video drive 'did not conclude the installation !!!! - (I use an Nvidia video card)
 What model?
 wxl: ^
 Gforce 210
[17:01] <wxl> what is the specific error?
 however 'at the time I put the repository of my video card and search for my proprietary driver! it gives my driver model (340.107) I try to install it and I did not get it! just this, the rest is beautiful
[17:02] <wxl> first question: did it work ok with the standard driver?
 yes yes' worked very well! but I would have the most account with the driver installed !! or not ?
 wxl: Bionic amd64 livefs daily is FTBFS.
 I get nag emails, do you?
 If not, we should sign you up for them...
[17:08] <wxl> @luca_aleksandr it depends on your use case, i guess. for basic use, the standard driver is usually sufficient. if you're a hardcore gamer or have need to really push your gpu, you'll need the proprietary driver. if you're having trouble getting that, we'll have to look at the actual errors
[17:08] <wxl> yiiiiiiiiiiiikes well i guess someone else will be on that @tsimonq2 XD
 @wxl [<wxl> yiiiiiiiiiiiikes well i guess someone else will be on that @tsimonq2 XD], Half the time, failing LTS dailies are kernel race conditions...
[17:09] <wxl> right, that's what i'm saying. everyone will be affected
 Aaaand, yup.
 Can you go poke apw / slangasek in -release?
 I'm not a player 'I like to do Rewiew and things to type, I play games only in Mugen's outside that' daily use (music, inkscape, gimp)
[17:14] <wxl> @luca_aleksandr then i would suggest trying out the non-proprietary driver and ONLY use the proprietary driver if you need it
 ok ' tanks
 @luca_aleksandr I've heard there are some problems with nvidia 340 in newer Kernels.
 good ' 😢
 funny that in ubuntu 18.4.1 my driver ran good, since it follows the same base!
 @luca_aleksandr [good ' 😢], I'm not sure, just what I've heard. Anyway, 18.4.1 has Kernel 4.15 18.10 4.17 or 4.18.
 18.04.1 kernel 4.15
 yes, but 18.10 has higher kernel.
 ok
[17:32] <wxl> @tsimonq2: actually where are you seeing these livefs fails?
 @wxl [<wxl> @tsimonq2: actually where are you seeing these livefs fails?], Bionic.
 amd64 livefs.
[18:08] <wxl> oh derp
[18:09] <wxl> admittedly we're quite a ways away from .2
 Right.
 See -release, slangasek is giving you nag emails too. :P
[18:10] <wxl> we should turn off next desktop, no?
 That should already be off?
[18:11] <wxl> not on dailies
[18:11] <wxl> bad release manager
[18:33] <wxl> @tsimonq2: waiting for linux packages to migrate from proposed for amd64. will resolve itself.
[18:34] <wxl> @tsimonq2: the other problem is alternates haven't built since april. apparently they weren't in the .1 release, but that's not mentioned in the release notes???
 @wxl [<wxl> @tsimonq2: the other problem is alternates haven't built since april. appa …], Adam has the full explanation but we don't do alternate point releases.
[18:40] <wxl> ah well we should remove those from the dailies, but we should also maybe make a release note somewhere........
[18:41] <wxl> probably on the .1 release and continue to do so on further releases
 wxl: Well, if we really really want them I guess we can persuade infinity.
[18:45] <wxl> alternates are now disabled from bionic
 OK.
[18:45] <wxl> if that's the decision, that's fine. but we need to communicate it well
[18:45] <wxl> i completely removed all traces of lubuntu next
[18:46] <wxl> you can still see alternates in bionic daily but they're disabled
 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-cdimage if you want it removed from disk on cdimage.ubuntu.com
 d-i is weird though; those alternates wouldn't have worked anyway, because it hardcodes the kernel version in there.
 So any kernel updates break it.
[18:47] <wxl> it doesn't exist http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/bionic/daily-live/current/
 Uh you're blind :)
 http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/bionic/daily/current/
 If they exist, they're there.
 So I guess they don't.
 Cool.
[18:48] <wxl> who's blind now, bat?
 XD
[19:49] <Wafficus> so is the Welcome Center under development for the next release?
[19:49] <Wafficus> and what's the difference between LXDE and the new variant?
 @Wafficus [<Wafficus> so is the Welcome Center under development for the next release?], The Welcome Center needs someone to sit down and plan out UX.
 And literally *everything* is different between LXDE and the dailies.
[19:57] <Wafficus> gotcha
[19:58] <Wafficus> well even if I didn't have UX experience, you just want ideas for how it should look correct?
 Right.
[20:23] <lyorian> awww no plastique Qt widget by default anymore?
[20:23] <lyorian> was that intended or a casualty of removing the broken bb10 stuff?
[20:30] <lyorian> Although I think LXQt needs a whole new manual
[20:30] <wxl> it most certainly does
[20:30] <wxl> that's a project we need to add to the must haves
[20:44] <lyorian> https://phab.lubuntu.me/T53 ugh I can't edit this
[20:44] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Unbreak Now!, Open] Must haves for 18.10 release: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T53
[20:45] <tsimonq2> wxl: Speaking of that, how's Trojita?
[20:46] <wxl> will try working on it here in the near future, @tsimonq2 ... how's the extra server space coming along *ahem portable container*
[20:49] <wxl> fixed @lyorian 
[20:49] <lyorian> ty wxl
[20:49] <wxl> np. thank YOU
[20:52] <lyorian> yeah I have updated that
[21:23] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T67: Repository for manual for lxqt] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) just created this task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T67
 Welcome @Emanuele65!
 Thanks!
[21:55] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T68: Outline for LXQt manual] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) just created this task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T68