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BenderRodriguezsladen: yes, it's current00:08
BenderRodriguezhggdh: it is not a difference of opinions00:09
jbichaBenderRodriguez: the Opinion status is also used when Canonical has made a decision and isn't really very interested in changing their mind00:18
Unit193Really should be set "won't fix"00:18
BenderRodriguezThis is ridiculous00:19
BenderRodriguezbut alright, I suppose there's no point in trying to voice opinions if it will be ignored00:19
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hggdhwe, at the time, did not quite agree with having "opinion" but no "wontfix", but I, at least, was unable to change the decision01:08
KomzzpaHello!08:12
KomzzpaI'm Darafei Praliaskouski from PostGIS team. Recently there was a release of GEOS 3.7.0 geospatial processing library that a soon-coming PostGIS 2.5 will depend on. It is packaged into Debian Unstable, but as I understand it's a bit after automatic sync deadline for Ubuntu Cosmic. May it be pulled into Ubuntu Cosmic?08:13
LocutusOfBorgnacc, thanks,08:13
LocutusOfBorgdesti, if you want the bug fixed, start by providing a patch :)08:13
KomzzpaI was sent here from #ubuntu-packaging, if it's not the right place to ask please show me the direction :)08:13
acheronukwell, here is more likely....08:15
LocutusOfBorgKomzzpa, the soname changed, so this mean a transition (even if it has only one reverse-dependency)08:15
acheronukKomzzpa: 3.7 in debian includes a shared library name bump08:16
LocutusOfBorgubuntu has 2.4 as postgis08:16
acheronukso ossim would need updating08:16
LocutusOfBorgI would say no, unless you prove that the new library is only a bugfix release, with no new features, and nothing breaks08:16
LocutusOfBorgKomzzpa, are you upstream?08:17
acheronukchanges in 3.7.0 https://trac.osgeo.org/geos/browser/git/NEWS?rev=3.7.008:17
LocutusOfBorgacheronuk, what is your opinion?08:18
acheronukKomzzpa: we are in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeatureFreeze08:19
KomzzpaLocutusOfBorg: I'm PostGIS upstream. I'm familiar with GEOS codebase and can bring someone properly-upstream if needed.08:22
LocutusOfBorgKomzzpa, what are the "new features mentioned?" e.g. GEOSDistanceIndexed08:22
LocutusOfBorgI mean, can you say something "hey they are new functions, and they don't clash so if nobody uses them, they are safe to go"08:23
LocutusOfBorgor something like that08:23
KomzzpaGEOSDistanceIndexed is a new distinct function not called by packages working with GEOS 3.608:24
LocutusOfBorgKomzzpa, can you please open a bug on the package, explaining changelog, and why you think it is worth a Feature Freeze Exception?08:25
acheronukLocutusOfBorg: I don't know enough background to form one really. looking at the non bumped libgeos-c1v5 lib, looks like some symbols got dropped and that has quite a few rdeps08:26
acheronukso that makes me a bit wary08:26
LocutusOfBorge.g. you can use this one as template https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/octave/+bug/179135908:26
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1791359 in octave (Ubuntu) "FFe: Sync octave 4.4.1-1 (universe) from Debian experimental (main)" [Wishlist,Fix released]08:26
LocutusOfBorgof course against this package https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/geos08:27
LocutusOfBorgacheronuk, I see only ossim in Debian https://release.debian.org/transitions/html/auto-geos.html08:27
LocutusOfBorgoh got it acheronuk08:27
LocutusOfBorgthe 1v5 library is the C library (and didn't change)08:27
LocutusOfBorgonly the C++ binding changed soname08:28
LocutusOfBorgso, the situation is "better"08:28
LocutusOfBorgKomzzpa, please mention also this, that only the c++ binding had an ABI change08:28
acheronukLocutusOfBorg: 1v5 lib name did not change. symbols did08:30
acheronukthough may be ok08:30
KomzzpaLocutusOfBorg: do I need to double check ossim working myself, or is there automated way?08:31
acheronukhmmm. one non optional dropped08:31
LocutusOfBorgacheronuk, but not used... right?08:32
acheronukLocutusOfBorg: that is what I can't judge08:33
LocutusOfBorgacheronuk, which symbol?08:33
acheronukLocutusOfBorg: https://salsa.debian.org/debian-gis-team/geos/commit/4c764977e873d6bbf0e7b46a7d8188d051429ada08:33
LocutusOfBorgKomzzpa, you can check the package from here https://launchpad.net/~costamagnagianfranco/+archive/ubuntu/locutusofborg-ppa08:33
acheronuk_ZNK4geos4util13GEOSException4whatEv@Base 3.4.208:33
LocutusOfBorggeos::util::GEOSException::what() const08:34
LocutusOfBorgoh... this symbol? https://sources.debian.org/src/osgearth/2.9.0+dfsg-3/src/osgEarthSymbology/Geometry.cpp/?hl=430#L43008:35
LocutusOfBorglets see if osgearth can compile now http://debomatic-amd64.debian.net/distribution#unstable/osgearth/2.9.0+dfsg-3build1/buildlog08:36
LocutusOfBorgKomzzpa, Im building it in my ppa if you want to test https://launchpad.net/~costamagnagianfranco/+archive/ubuntu/locutusofborg-ppa/+packages08:42
acheronukit's probably ok, but I'd not trust my C++ quite enough on it's own!08:44
LocutusOfBorgosgearth builds ok...08:47
LocutusOfBorgKomzzpa, please put the bug number once you have it, so we can do the required paperwork08:48
KomzzpaLocutusOfBorg: Is this good enough? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/geos/+bug/179234209:18
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1792342 in geos (Ubuntu) "Sync geos 3.7.0 from Debian unstable" [Undecided,New]09:18
KomzzpaLocutusOfBorg: I rewrote changelog in non-geospatial terms, hope it is okay09:18
LocutusOfBorgKomzzpa, I think we are good09:44
KomzzpaLocutusOfBorg: thanks! :)09:47
LocutusOfBorgKomzzpa, thank release team if they accept it :)09:49
dokocoreycb, cpaelzer: we should talk about percona in main at the sprint ...11:36
cpaelzerjamespage: ^^11:43
cpaelzerand since percona ~= mysql rbasak^^11:43
cpaelzerit seems that becomes a reocurring sprint topic now11:44
dokomvo, mwhudson: what is the status about https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/snapd/+bug/1660550 ?13:18
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1660550 in snapd (Ubuntu) "[MIR] snapd in trusty" [Undecided,Fix committed]13:18
dokojamespage: ping about https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python-pykmip/+bug/154375413:22
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1543754 in python-pykmip (Ubuntu) "[MIR] barbican, python-pykmip" [Undecided,Incomplete]13:22
coreycbdoko: cpaelzer: sounds good. btw we do have an MIR open for it, but i know there's a lot more that goes into it. bug 176811913:33
ubottubug 1768119 in percona-xtradb-cluster-5.7 (Ubuntu) "[MIR] percona-xtradb-cluster-5.7, percona-xtrabackup, libdbd-mysql-perl" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176811913:33
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seb128cyphermox, hey, any chance that you do that modemmanager update from rc1 to 1.8 stable? ;)14:48
cyphermoxdon't know, definitely not right now14:49
tkamppeterdoko, hi16:45
dokotkamppeter: hi16:50
dokoone more cp* package to go =)16:50
tkamppeterdoko, the cpdb* packages need to get seeded because they do not have yet some package using them.16:51
tkamppeterdoko, the cpdb-libs is hanging on the autopkgtest for arm64 only (rest OK) and it was told me to test and debug on the porter boxes, rugby for arm64.16:52
tkamppeterSo I asked for being added to the porter box users and got links to instructions how to use (through our VPN). Set everything up, but https://portal.admin.canonical.com/C113885 is preventing me from using it (cannot install packages).16:53
tkamppeterdoko, I hope they will resolve this soon.16:54
tkamppeterdoko, or can we make an exception as arm64 never worked?16:54
tkamppeterdoko, checked rugby, still broken.16:56
dokotkamppeter: will you be at the sprint next week?20:22
mwhudsondoko: no idea21:00

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