[00:10] <naribia> eem ok so im trying to log into ubuntu and after putting in my password, it pauses, flashes black screen and is back to login. This is a new installation by the way, and just installed graphics drivers, any ideas?
[00:14] <naribia> also, not sure how its related, but I did also install openssh-server and I'm unable to ssh into it when its at the login screen as well
[00:16] <naribia> there was a suggestion I found to delete the .Xauthority file, however I'm not sure how to get to that since I can't log in
[00:21] <xamithan> !nomodeset
[00:22] <xamithan> Remove whatever you installed and reinstall different graphics after doing that
[00:26] <Paddy_NI> Is there any way to change the theme for GTK 2 apps on Ubuntu 18.04?
[00:26] <Paddy_NI> "lxappearance" worked in the past
[00:26] <Paddy_NI> I am not having success with it now
[00:27] <Paddy_NI> Unless I am missing a step
[00:27] <naribia> xamithan: alright, how can I initially get logged in?
[00:27] <Paddy_NI> I'm using Ubuntu 18.04 (default - GNOME)
[00:28] <xamithan> Try the nomodeset thing in the ubottu link
[00:41] <Avion> what app/program do I use to display tgus moving image. i thought it was a gif but when I clicked download I just got one of the middle of the pack imagea (prolly where she was at that moment).    the only image/drawing on the page (iir)   www.taichichuan.org
[00:42] <Avion> she is doing aome tai chi and I want to watch it slowed down and be able to stop and reaee- in the middle of the sequence.
[00:42] <Avion> resee.
[00:43] <Avion> doing yi chi.
[00:43] <Avion> doing Tai Chi.
[00:45] <Avion> my guess is 71 images
[00:49] <pavlos> Avion: what is a tgus image?
[00:51] <Damnit__> I have a question
[00:51] <leftyfb> !ask | Damnit__
[00:52] <Damnit__> The PATH variable will be used under which situation?
[00:52] <Damnit__> The command is not found.
[00:53] <leftyfb> Damnit__: http://www.linfo.org/path_env_var.html
[00:53] <Damnit__> The command is an alias.
[00:53] <Damnit__> A full path name to a command is provided.
[00:53] <Damnit__>  The command is a function.
[00:53] <leftyfb> Damnit__: do you have an issue with ubuntu?
[00:54] <Damnit__> what's the answer?
[00:54] <leftyfb> Damnit__: I gave you the answer as to what PATH is and how it's used
[00:54] <leftyfb> Damnit__: do you have another issue with ubuntu?
[00:55] <xamithan> Is that homework ?
[00:56] <pavlos> Damnit__: if you define alias mypy="/usr/bin/python3" then typing mypy will exec the alias. Read the link leftyfb provided.
[00:56] <leftyfb> Damnit__: we are not going to answer schoolwork for you.
[00:56] <Damnit__> i am trying to read it
[00:57] <Damnit__> i think it is  The command is a function.
[00:57] <leftyfb> Damnit__: we are not going to answer schoolwork for you.
[00:59] <Damnit__> D'uhhh   its The command is an alias.
[00:59] <duoi> hi
[01:00] <duoi> i have a hidpi laptop screen and a 1080p external. how can i set two different scaling settings? when trying to lower or increase the scaling of one monitor, it seems to apply it to all of them
[01:01] <oerheks> duoi, not, AFAIK
[01:08] <stoner19> anyone have experience with @reboot and crontab? @reboot cd $HOME/daemon_dir/src/ ./daemond doesn't work
[01:09] <ChaiTRex> duoi: This seems to deal with that: https://askubuntu.com/questions/393400/is-it-possible-to-have-two-different-dpi-configurations-for-two-different-screen
[01:09] <Damnit__> you all suck
[01:09] <stoner19> @reboot exec    ./daemond    $HOME/daemon_src/src/
[01:10] <StatelessCat> Meow
[01:10] <ChaiTRex> stoner19: I think cron doesn't have the normal environment variables.
[01:11] <ChaiTRex> stoner19: Like $HOME. You might also want && between the two commands.
[01:11] <stoner19> AH that makes sense
[01:12] <stoner19> define a user
[01:12] <stoner19> with /home/stone/daemon_dir/src
[01:16] <stoner19> that did it thank you ChaiTRex
[01:17] <ChaiTRex> stoner19: You're welcome.
[01:39] <linuxliam> anyone know why Thunderbird 60 isn't in the repo's
[01:50] <dviola> hi
[01:51] <dviola> I got a ryzen 5 2400g and I'm using the amdgpu drivers, but when I boot the latest ubuntu 18.04.1 I get very buggy graphics, and I cannot install the latest ubuntu
[01:51] <dviola> I'm booting from a USB stick
[01:51] <dviola> are there any other daily builds or nightly I can use to install?
[01:51] <dviola> with latest kernel,e tc
[01:51] <dviola> etc*
[01:51] <dviola> maybe the issue is fixed
[01:55] <StatelessCat> dviola: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ ?
[01:55] <Bashing-om> dviola: There is the 18.10 daily build: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ . I find it stable and solid on my old AMD system.
[01:56] <dviola> I'll try ubuntu 18.10 first
[01:58] <leftyfb> dviola: you'd be better off trying newer kernels from mainline than installing an unfinished and unsupported version of ubuntu
[01:58] <leftyfb> dviola: also, booting the live system from usb is not the best indication of performance and possible issues
[01:59] <dviola> how can I install a newer kernel if I can't even install ubuntu?
[01:59] <dviola> it displays corrupted graphics when booting
[02:02] <dviola> I'll see if I can get to install it
[02:02] <leftyfb> dviola: CTRL+ALT_F2
[02:02] <leftyfb> dviola: CTRL+ALT+F2
[02:02] <dviola> and then?
[02:02] <leftyfb> then follow instructions to install a kernel from mainline
[02:02] <leftyfb> !mainline | dviola
[02:03] <dviola> I can't install a newer kernel on USB
[02:03] <dviola> I dd'ed the iso to USB
[02:03] <leftyfb> dviola: I meant after installation
[02:03] <dviola> ah ok
[02:03] <dviola> I'll try to install this way then
[02:17] <Avion> i have an hp win10 computer and I am failing to get it to boot off the live usb. (strangely it didnonce and then turned black while I was looking at my flash drives' directories.  yes legacy boot and no secure boot.
[02:17] <Avion> with theae settinga does not do it. retried.
[02:17] <Avion>  i have read the webpages and followed.
[02:18] <leftyfb> Avion: if it booted once, then it just means you're not hitting the right keys at the right time to boot to an external device. Gotta research your hardware and how to get it to boot to an external device
[02:19] <Rockwood> hi currently, i am using mysql 5 version and now i want upgrade mysql version in 8 on ubuntu 18.04. now the problem is how to do that?
[02:19] <Avion> leftyfb: i reset the booy order. i dont know of any "keys to 0ress" to make it boot.
[02:20] <Avion> i checked and bios retained the changed settings
[02:20] <leftyfb> Rockwood: mysql 8 is not available in ubuntu
[02:21] <Rockwood> leftyfb, means?
[02:21] <leftyfb> Rockwood: it means, mysql 8 is not available in ubuntu
[02:21] <Avion> leftyfb: when it booted once and died, then with no setting changes by me it would not boot again with several retries. (i had changed some things as guesses though) so I went back t9 defaults and followed the websitea directions which are what you see in what I wrote.
[02:22] <leftyfb> Rockwood: is there a particular reason you cannot use mysql 5.x over 8?
[02:22] <Rockwood> my project requirement
[02:23] <leftyfb> Rockwood: project?
[02:23] <Rockwood> actually i am making project in php and mysql
[02:23] <Avion> i need to tak3 it to a cafe to do another windows updatr. i thought I had done them all then another showed up. I really feel hobbled in 10. i can function fine in 7 and 8.
[02:24] <ledeni> Avion:  try to cool shutdown win10 like shift + shutdown and try to boot usb
[02:24] <Rockwood> sorry not making just upgrading stuff in project
[02:24] <Rockwood> leftyfb, project build in new version
[02:25] <Rockwood> else i have change on big level
[02:25] <Rockwood> it's not possible
[02:25] <Rockwood> easiest way is upgrade the mysql version
[02:25] <leftyfb> Avion: 10? 7 and 8? What are you referring to?
[02:26] <Rockwood> leftyfb, upgrade is not possible than?
[02:26] <leftyfb> Rockwood: not unless you build from source. You can read about that on mysql's website.
[02:27] <Rockwood> okay
[02:27] <Rockwood> leftyfb, thanks
[02:32] <ansibleesxi666>  Hello all, i need to build a linux server for build purpose , i have some issue with Ubuntu 16 "server" ISO -  boot with UEFI on HP DL 360  Gen 10 box with RAID 0 ssd disks-   Ubuntu 16 "desktop"cd works well , so does it matter much if i use server or desktop?
[02:33] <ansibleesxi666> Any suggestion pls
[02:34] <xamithan> Its the same repos,  but desktop will install a desktop.  Why not just use a minimal|netboot
[02:37] <ansibleesxi666> Thanks i will check on minimal iso
[02:37] <leftyfb> ansibleesxi666: also, there is no version 16 of ubuntu
[02:38] <leftyfb> ansibleesxi666: there is 16.04 which is supported till 2021 and 16.10 which ended support last July
[02:39] <ansibleesxi666> sorry i mean 16.04 only
[02:39] <leftyfb> ansibleesxi666: also, unless you do not care about the OS or the data, I would not use RAID 0
[02:40] <ansibleesxi666> that said anyone had tested boot with UEFI on HP DL 360  Gen 10 box with RAID 0  ?
[02:40] <ansibleesxi666> the issue i get with Server iso is the disk size shows as 600 GB & when i use desktop it shows correct size of 3 TB
[02:40] <leftyfb> ansibleesxi666: that's not a support question. If you have issues with it, please detail those here and someone will try to help you with it
[02:40] <ansibleesxi666> this is raid 0 of 3 ssd disks
[02:41] <leftyfb> right, and RAID 0 is begging for data loss
[02:41] <ansibleesxi666> yes we see better perf with RAID 0 so we have decided to use that
[02:41] <leftyfb> ansibleesxi666: when one of those drives goes bad, you will lose all your data
[02:43] <ansibleesxi666> our build team wants less time & they do not care of the data on the build box as the actual build goes in central git repo.... these build nodes are purly for compuete ... but starnage issue is why server iso shows disk size as 600 GB & not 3 TB
[03:00] <Rockwood> how to remove old version of mysql from ubuntu completely?
[03:00] <Rockwood> i have 18.04 version
[03:00] <Rockwood> of ubuntu
[03:02] <slingamn> is there a version of djbdns available for bionic?
[03:03] <lapion> hello
[03:04] <lapion> my wifi is not connected, however on my network my router does give the wifi an ip address and shows it as connected through the ethernet connection
[03:05] <lapion> how can this be ?
[03:06] <guiverc> Rockwood, this will show the packages with mysql for bionic; use `dpkg -l|grep mysql` or other to see what you have installed - you `sudo apt remove <packagename>` assuming it was installed with sudo apt install; if not reverse however you installed it...
[03:10] <krytarik> slingamn: It was removed from the repositories due to Debian #870982, so no.
[03:11] <guiverc> Rockwood, https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=bionic&keywords=mysql  (is what i referred to, but forgot to add)
[03:12] <slingamn> thanks
[03:25] <TESloth> hey, having an issue with some java programs (arduino IDE, jabref) displaying file windows in strange ways. Found a lot about font scaling generally, but nothing on this specifically, anyone come across it?
[03:25] <TESloth> example: https://imgur.com/a/sUJljJZ
[03:26] <TESloth> using 18.04 and the issue crops up on Java 8 and 11
[03:44] <NotBobDole> Hi all. I have a weird issue. buddy of mine has a laptop plagued by this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1788616
[03:45] <NotBobDole> In order to get it in to install from what I can tell, I need the latest kernel
[03:45] <pantato> I edited /etc/network/interfaces (i have ubuntu 18.04). Now the desktop won't load when I login to my account. It's just a black screen with a mouse cursor. I ssh'ed in and removed the additions I made to the file and rebooted, and I'm still getting the same problem
[03:45] <NotBobDole> How do I get the latest kernel on the install iso?
[03:45] <pantato> anyone have any idea what to do? google isn't helping me with this one
[03:46] <NotBobDole> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/bionic/daily-live/current/ Does the 18.04 iso in here have the latest kernel from ubuntu?
[03:46] <NotBobDole> or is still the same kernel broken in the issue I posted above?
[03:46] <NotBobDole> i am not sure how to check
[03:46] <NotBobDole> if someone can tell me how to check I will gladly do so myself
[03:48] <NotBobDole> Found this: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/14233320/linux-kernel-version-from-an-iso-image will post results.
[03:50] <lapion> does anyone know where I need to add my certificate to gnome-xchat ?
[03:51] <lapion> xchat-gnome
[03:54] <kumool> lapion, why even use xchat-gnome?
[03:58] <lapion> no up to date xchat ppa's and  it uses the old .xchat2 folder for data..
[03:58] <lapion> waiting with upgrade to 1804
[04:05] <kumool> lapion, but why not hexchat?
[04:05] <nick1234> hi, i recently upgraded from 16.0 to 18.04, after upgrade it said there are around 1 gb of packages to be removed. there was insufficient power supply at that moment so I shutdown the machine connected to some other power source and restarted. It booted in 18.04 gave prompt for partial upgrade, I did partial upgrade . tried apt autoremove but it says thees nothing to be removed. Now there is insufficient spave in /boot and
[04:05] <nick1234> hence not updating the softwares. Can some one help
[04:10] <guiverc> NotBobDole, note: I don't know, I would assume the daily image is where they are on 18.04.2 (which will have HWE kernel when released) - so it maybe the 4.18.0-7 kernel that 18.10 currently uses...
[04:11] <NotBobDole> guiverc, I figured it out.
[04:11] <NotBobDole> 18.04 of latest has 4.15.0-34 , I need 4.15.0-33 or higher so I am good!
[04:11] <guiverc> :)
[04:12] <NotBobDole> I found it out by doing `grep -R headers ." in the directory that the image was mounted.
[04:12] <NotBobDole> well. imagine using the correct quotations.. but ya know
[04:13] <guiverc> i'm not a computer, so didn't notice the mismatched quotes :)
[04:13] <NotBobDole> for note, the old version is -28 or something.
[04:13] <NotBobDole> beep boop
[04:16] <guiverc> nick1234, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RemoveOldKernels contains some info that may be helpful, including a "to free space in /boot"...
[04:20] <nick1234> there is only one kernel image 4.15.0-33-generic in /boot i have already removed old kernle images
[04:20] <lotuspsychje> nick1234: we are now at .34
[04:21] <lotuspsychje> nick1234: automatic kernel cleanup let the last 3 kernels remain
[04:21] <guiverc> nick1234, I'd have left 2 minimum.. (in case you have problems with an update, you have a prior working kernel you can boot so as to fix)
[04:23] <nick1234> as it was giving megs for low space in boot i removed kernel 4.4.0-x version so as to free up the space
[04:23] <nick1234> it was a kernel of 16.04
[04:25] <lotuspsychje> nick1234: try bleachbit for free some other space on your system then only /boot
[04:27] <nick1234> ok i wiall try bleachbit
[04:36] <nick1234> theres no option for freeing up space in /boot in bleachbit
[04:38] <lotuspsychje> nick1234: thats not what i said neither
[04:38] <lotuspsychje> nick1234: but bleachbit can also automove kernels 'and' free some other soace on your computer aswell
[04:41] <lotuspsychje> nick1234: can you pastebin us: dpkg --list | grep linux-image
[06:34] <ftmh17> hello
[06:34] <ftmh17> anybody try  discreete linux ?
[06:35] <lotus|NUC> ftmh17: explain a bit more please?
[06:37] <ftmh17> it is a linux distro, called  discreete linux
[06:38] <ftmh17> i just seen it today, it is up there with Tails and such
[06:38] <lotus|NUC> ftmh17: you joined the #ubuntu support channel here, we only take ubuntu questions here
[06:38] <ftmh17> it is based on Ubuntu
[06:38] <lotus|NUC> ftmh17: you can join #ubuntu-offtopic if you like?
[06:39] <ftmh17> ok, no problem thanks anyways
[06:41] <ftmh17> ooops sorry it is actualy Debien based, my bad
[06:47] <OlofL> https://imgur.com/a/cuF5Tm7why is my network icon missing? And where is my wifi-menu, I am currently associated with an ap...
[06:48] <igoryonya> Hello, I have upgraded my (16.04 LTS to 18.04 LTS) Desktop. After booting to 18.04, it tries to get to the graphical login, but the monitor cycles infinitely, i.e.: It lights up with the terminal, then turns off, then lights up again and never gets to the login screen.
[06:49] <igoryonya> I've managed to stop gdm3.service, by using one of the available TTYs, with: sudo systemctl stop gdm3.service
[06:49] <igoryonya> It stoped cycling
[06:49] <igoryonya> Then, I've reconfigured: sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm
[06:49] <igoryonya> then started: sudo systemctl start lightdm.start
[06:50] <igoryonya> It got to the graphical screen, but the default ubuntu and the wayland ubuntu, after entering the credentials, starts loading, then drops back to the login screen
[06:51] <igoryonya> The only desktop, that I've managed to log in is OpenBox, which I am sitting @ right now, trying to resolve my problem.
[06:52] <mouses> igoryonya: did you maybe accidentlly run startx as root?
[06:52] <mouses> igoryonya: check perms on ~/.Xauthority
[06:52] <mouses> make sure it's owned by the user, not root
[06:53] <dbugger> Does anyone know why I cant install libssl-dev?
[06:53] <dbugger> https://www.hastebin.com/diriracapa.sh
[06:54] <igoryonya> mouses, no, I did try to start the desktop with the "safe" mode, but didn't go to the root shell, just clicked "continue" on service menu.
[06:54] <someone_> Hi, I have a problem system load tap in ksysguard does not show CPU history and network history this problem was not there two weeks ago, I run it by sudo but the problem still there.
[06:54] <mouses> igoryonya: hmmm - not sure, ran into a similar issue once but it was the perms on .Xauthority
[06:54] <igoryonya> mouses, I have this: -rw------- 1 ria ria 889 сен 14 18:36 /home/ria/.Xauthority
[06:55] <mouses> igoryonya: that's normal, assuming ria is your user account
[06:55] <lotus|NUC> dbugger: system up to date? apt autormove? external ppa's installed?
[06:56] <igoryonya> It's my normal account, which I am sitting with openbox session currently.
[06:56] <mouses> igoryonya: might be worth running startx as the user and pushing the output to a log file
[06:56] <igoryonya> Can you advise, how to push the output to the log file?
[06:56] <dbugger> lotus|NUC, yeah, as far as I know
[06:56] <mouses> startx &> log.txt
[06:57] <mouses> igoryonya: run that, let it run for a min, control C to kill, and then take a look over that log
[06:57] <mouses> might be clues in there
[06:57] <igoryonya> mouses, thanx, I will try now
[06:57] <lotus|NUC> dbugger: hastebin us: sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade please?
[06:58] <dbugger> lotus|NUC, https://www.hastebin.com/aqatufasax.cpp
[07:01] <hans_> how does the "recovery mode" boot option make sure everything is mounted readonly?
[07:01] <lotus|NUC> dbugger: could be some of your external ppa's scrambling your dependencies
[07:02] <lotus|NUC> dbugger: we cant support those here, so we advice to try revert them to vanilla with ppapurge then apt update again, try again your ssl install
[07:02] <dbugger> what does "ppapurge" do?
[07:02] <lotus|NUC> !ppapurge | dbugger
[07:03] <lotus|NUC> dbugger: it will remove both your external ppa's + the packages belong to them
[07:03] <m2_teknix> I am trying ti install redhift by "sudo apt-get install redshift redshift-gtk". But I get the error - "ERROR: cannot verify justgetflux.com's certificate......"
[07:03] <dbugger> lotus|NUC, so I will delete things like Google Chrome or Visual Studio Code?
[07:04] <lotus|NUC> dbugger: correct
[07:04] <dbugger> lotus|NUC, i dont think I can afford that :/
[07:06] <m2_teknix> I am trying ti install redhift by "sudo apt-get install redshift redshift-gtk". But I get the error - "ERROR: cannot verify justgetflux.com's certificate......"
[07:07] <lotus|NUC> dbugger: sorry mate, there's no other way for us to check your broken dependencies
[07:07] <dbugger> :(
[07:07] <dbugger> well this sucks
[07:07] <dbugger> lotus|NUC, thanks anyway for the help
[07:07] <lotus|NUC> dbugger: the end user is responsible to mainaint his system, nothing ubuntu can do right
[07:08] <dbugger> lotus|NUC, yeah, I know it is my fault
[07:08] <tomreyn> m2_teknix: apt-cache policy redshift redshift-gtk | pastebinit
[07:08] <lotus|NUC> dbugger: we always advice to stick to packages from the ubuntu repos
[07:08] <lotus|NUC> dbugger: did you try apt autoremove yet?
[07:08] <dbugger> lotus|NUC, yeah i did that
[07:09] <lotus|NUC> dbugger: do you have all ubuntu repos enabled needed too?
[07:09] <lotus|NUC> !sources | dbugger doublecheck here
[07:09] <dbugger> lotus|NUC, yeah
[07:09] <m2_teknix> apt-cache policy redshift redshift-gtk | pastebinit
[07:09] <lotus|NUC> dbugger: then it must be from an external ppa
[07:10] <dbugger> lotus|NUC, https://paste.pics/3QHII
[07:10] <tomreyn> m2_teknix: the idea was for you to paste this into a terminal
[07:10] <dbugger> lotus|NUC, I guess I could remove the one from microsoft, and use VS Code from the snap package
[07:10] <tomreyn> m2_teknix: this will then run the "apt-cache policy redshift redshift-gtk" command, and post the output to paste.ubuntu.com
[07:11] <ducasse> dbugger: what does 'apt policy libssl-dev' output?
[07:11] <m2_teknix> tomreyn: sorry for the mess up. xD. I know that was for the terminal. Here is the link http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/mnRkKmgFv7/
[07:11] <dbugger> ducasse, https://www.hastebin.com/navugisile.rb
[07:12] <sjohnson> hi.  i did an ubuntu upgrade via the command-line and it sort of buffered my nginx set up.
[07:12] <sjohnson> now it's back to the default ubuntu welcome page, and when i do "service nginx reload" it says it is not loaded when it clearly is because it is serving that default webpage.
[07:13] <ducasse> dbugger: make sure the security and updates repos are enabled, then try an 'apt update' before trying the install again
[07:13] <dbugger> ducasse, they have been always enabled
[07:14] <ducasse> dbugger: that's odd, because you are seeing the wrong version from your repo
[07:15] <dbugger> the wrong version of what?
[07:15] <ducasse> dbugger: libssl-dev
[07:15] <ducasse> dbugger: you see 1.1.0g-2ubuntu4, you should see 1.1.0g-2ubuntu4.1
[07:16] <ducasse> dbugger: (the 'candidate' line in apt policy output)
[07:16] <dbugger> you mean on the "policy" part?
[07:17] <ducasse> dbugger: yes
[07:17] <dbugger> ducasse, maybe I did something wrong with that. I dunno...
[07:17] <dbugger> I do not understand what policies are anyway :(
[07:18] <tomreyn> m2_teknix: sudo /bin/true: pastebinit <( sudo apt-get update 2>&1; sudo apt-get -f --assume-no install 2>&1; sudo apt-get --assume-no install redshift redshift-gtk; )
[07:18] <tomreyn> m2_teknix: sorry had an incoming phone call there
[07:18] <dbugger> ducasse, is the same "apt policy ..." than "apt-cache policy ..." ?
[07:19] <dbugger> because i seem to recall I did the second one
[07:19] <ducasse> dbugger: yes, same thing
[07:19] <dbugger> ah, then it does not matter :(
[07:23] <dbugger> and how do I use ppa-purge for repos that are not in launchpad?
[07:26] <ducasse> dbugger: i don't think a ppa is your problem in this case, if a package from a ppa was making trouble we would have seen it by now
[07:26] <tomreyn> dbugger: pass it the url listed on the "apt-cache policy" output
[07:26] <dbugger> ducasse, what do you mean?
[07:27] <tomreyn> dbugger: (i'm not certain this works but it may)
[07:27] <MicrosoftWindows> how do I install windows in Ubuntu
[07:28] <tomreyn> MicrosoftWindows: in case you're not trolling, you can run other operating systems under ubuntu in a VM.
[07:29] <ducasse> !virtualization | MicrosoftWindows
[07:32] <nick1234> my /boot is at 40% and is 17.2 M short for next update. Can someone see results of 'ls -l /boot' and tell me what can i do to increase space? https://dpaste.de/U62A
[07:35] <guiverc_d> nick1234, if i may ask, how large is your /boot partition?  and have you `sudo apt autoremove` ?
[07:36] <guiverc_d> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RemoveOldKernels  is where I'm thinking (for second question)
[07:37] <tomreyn> nick1234: this /boot partition is rather small (236 MB), it would be good to resize it if that's an option
[07:39] <guiverc_d> fyi: minimum is 250mb-1gb on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DiskSpace
[07:39] <EriC^^> nick1234: can you run "find /boot -type f -exec du -h {} \; | sort -h" ?
[07:39] <tomreyn> nick1234: what (and how much) is in /boot/extlinux ?
[07:40] <nick1234> ok i have tried sudo apt- autoremove
[07:40] <nick1234> but to no avail
[07:40] <tomreyn> guiverc_d: 236 MB is probably a file system size on top of a 250 MB partition, so that'd be within this range.
[07:41] <nick1234> http://termbin.com/88yk is here : http://termbin.com/88yk
[07:41] <tomreyn> nick1234: you only have one kernel image installed, so apt autoremove wont do any good there currently
[07:41] <nick1234> find /boot -type f -exec du -h {} \; | sort -h is here http://termbin.com/88yk
[07:42] <Triffid_Hunter> nick1234: wow, your initrd is 68MB? does ubuntu still need one?
[07:42] <tomreyn> nick1234: please also: df -h | pastebinit
[07:42] <nick1234> ls -l  /boot/extlinux is here : => http://termbin.com/uc13
[07:43] <Triffid_Hunter> last time I made an initramfs was something like 6-7 years ago, and it was 2MB..
[07:44] <nick1234> df -h is here = >https://dpaste.de/Mmsi
[07:48] <nick1234> is there a solution other than resizing ? I have never done resizing is it safe?
[07:49] <tomreyn> nick1234: everything is safe if you have backups, and you need to have backups.
[07:50] <nick1234> ok, what do you recommend to be the ideal size of /boot?
[07:50] <tomreyn> nick1234: however, resizing this may not be much fun since you seem to have everything but /boot on LVM
[07:51] <nick1234> so...
[07:51] <tomreyn> nick1234: can you explain how you arrived at the conclusion that you are 17.2 MB short for the update?
[07:52] <nick1234> update manager gives the message
[07:52] <tomreyn> nick1234: can you post the full output?
[07:52] <nick1234> sure in a minute
[07:53] <nick1234> update manager msg : The upgrade needs a total of 158 M free space on disk '/boot'. Please free at least an additional 17.3 M of disk space on '/boot'. You can remove old kernels using 'sudo apt autoremove', and you could also set COMPRESS=xz in /etc/initramfs-tools/initramfs.conf to reduce the size of your initramfs.
[07:55] <tomreyn> nick1234: maybe the latter is the way to go then
[07:55] <nick1234> compress=xz ?? done that
[07:56] <tomreyn> nick1234: did you also run "update-initramfs -k all -c" afterwards?
[07:56] <nick1234> no i didn't.
[07:56] <tomreyn> then run this now with sudo, so that the change is actually applied
[07:57] <nick1234> ok
[07:59] <tomreyn> nick1234: and run 'df -h /boot' again afterwards so we'll know whether it made a difference.
[07:59] <nick1234> sure
[08:00] <tomreyn> nick1234: i don't think you need the /boot/extlinux directory and files in it (last modified in 2016). those will be a leftover from when you used syslinux (rather than grub which you seem to be using now)
[08:00] <nick1234> yes it made difference = here => http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/HnbFFc3YqN/
[08:01] <tomreyn> nick1234: 2 MB missing, but maybe you can already do the update now
[08:01] <nick1234> so shall i remove the contents of extlinuix?
[08:02] <tomreyn> nick1234: if you don't boot using syslinux, removing /boot/extlinux is fine
[08:02] <nick1234> i dont know if i use syslinux of not
[08:02] <nick1234> *or not
[08:02] <tomreyn> nick1234: then keep it, it's not much anyways.
[08:02] <nick1234> I am able to update alas
[08:03] <nick1234> :) thanks guys
[08:03] <tomreyn> nick1234: you're welcome. i guess you should probably reinstall + repartition sometime, though, since this issue can reoccur.
[08:04] <nick1234> thats what i was thinking. I have been on this system since 12.04
[08:04] <nick1234> theres lots of programs and settings etc which i dont want to lose
[08:05] <nick1234> i will try to resize the /boot
[08:06] <EriC^^> nick1234: can you run "find /boot -type f -exec du -h {} \; | sort -h"
[08:07] <nick1234> yes here http://termbin.com/88yk
[08:07] <EriC^^> nick1234: instead of resizing /boot if you not using lvm or something you could just make /boot a part of "/" and call it a day
[08:08] <nick1234> i am ok with it but I dont know how?
[08:10] <EriC^^> nick1234: what's it trying to update now? seems odd there's 135mb but it still needs 17
[08:10] <tomreyn> for nick1234, / is on a lv
[08:11] <nick1234> new kernel update
[08:12] <tomreyn> nick1234: oh so the kernel update isnt installed, yet? does it still fail then? i was thinking you were saying it worked now
[08:13] <nick1234> yes it is working now and I have already updates.
[08:13] <nick1234> yes it is working now and I have already updated.
[08:16] <tomreyn> nick1234: when you posted http://termbin.com/88yk you did not have the 4.15.0-34 kernel image installed, yet.
[08:17] <tomreyn> or rather: when you ran the command which created this output
[08:22] <ne2k>  I'm trying to run OpenVPN on Ubuntu bionic in lxc on Proxmox 5.2. I've worked out the lxc config to allow /dev/net/tun to be created in the guest, but it's not being created automatically. stuff I'm finding online suggests using lxc autodev hook, but this distro uses udev and the /dev in the container root doesn't actually have anything in it. what's the "right" way to get /dev/net/tun created at boot?
[08:22] <tboz> hi guys
[08:23] <ne2k> if I create it manually, it works. if I run udevadm trigger, it gets created, but it's not persistent across restarts. I've seen posts suggesting to create it with rc.local, but that does seem rather last century
[08:24] <tboz> when running `add-apt-repository ppa:gns3/ppa` i get "Err:2 http://ppa.launchpad.net/gns3/ppa/ubuntu bionic InRelease   500  Internal Server Error [IP: 91.189.95.83 80]"
[08:24] <tboz> suggestions on what to do about that?
[08:24] <tomreyn> ne2k: we only support ubuntu here, not proxmox, which comes with its own kernels.
[08:24] <tboz> as i understand it, launchpad doesn't do mirroring
[08:24] <ne2k> tomreyn, it's a question about ubuntu in lxc and what the ubuntu way is of getting that device node created
[08:25] <tboz> i'm fine downloading the deb files manually and work with that until this is fixed ... but where should i put the files to have apt pick them up?
[08:25] <ne2k> tomreyn, I don't believe the difference of kernel to be relevant
[08:27] <tomreyn> tboz: does 'curl http://ppa.launchpad.net/gns3/ppa/ubuntu/dists/bionic/InRelease' and 'wget -O /tmp/InRelease http://ppa.launchpad.net/gns3/ppa/ubuntu/dists/bionic/InRelease' work without warnings / errors?
[08:28] <tboz> wget didn't 20 mins ago - gonna check again
[08:31] <tomreyn> tboz: since 500 is an internal *server* error (so actually on the remote ppa.launchpad.net server), and the ip address your system resolves to is what i see here as well (but the file loads fine for me), i suspect it was reall yjust a temporary server side error, which has since been resolved.
[08:35] <tboz> tomreyn, still doesn't work (tm)
[08:35] <tboz> i'm sitting in germany here
[08:35] <tboz> might a proxy help?
[08:43] <tomreyn> tboz: hmm, strange, when i'm accessing from germany, too, I can use "add-apt-repository ppa:gns3/ppa" on a bionic (18.04) system just fine.
[08:44] <tboz> i had that problem a  couple of weeks ago as well
[08:44] <tboz> might be some weird transparent proxy issue
[08:44] <tboz> sitting in an institute here
[08:44] <tboz> alright, gotta head off. gonna examine that on monday.
[08:45] <tboz> thanks for the help :)
[09:01] <rcenteio> Hi, I have a dual graphics laptop. My discrete card is on via vgaswitcheroo and is recognized by xrandr --listproviders. However, When I try DRI_PRIME=1 glmark2, it gives me X Error of failed request: Bad Alloc.
[09:05] <aLeSD> which is the right way to start a service in ubuntu 18.04 ?
[09:06] <aLeSD> systemctl or service ?
[09:08] <Irukandji> anyone here using the communitheme snap? my snap of gnome calc isnt themed after a reboot
[09:14] <MicrosoftWindows> Hi, how do I tell someone to stop using windows?
[09:14] <ne2k> MicrosoftWindows, urgh
[09:17] <ne2k> aLeSD, systemctl start x
[09:26] <tomreyn> !ot | MicrosoftWindows
[09:38] <ne2k> tomreyn, you love that button, don't you
[09:38] <tomreyn> !ot | ne2k
[09:42] <ne2k> you're like a characiture of yourself
[09:48] <muhaha> Has anyone experience with on-prem landscape ?
[09:51] <aLeSD> ne2k, why ?
[09:52] <ne2k> aLeSD, oh, is he a bot?!
[09:52] <aLeSD> who ?
[09:52] <ne2k> tomreyn,
 aLeSD, systemctl start x
[09:53] <aLeSD> why ?
[09:53] <ne2k> aLeSD, why are you quoting back at me an answer to a question you asked half an hour ago?
[09:54] <aLeSD> because I am curious. Is "service" deprecated ?
[09:55] <ne2k> aLeSD, ubuntu is a mess
[09:55] <ne2k> utter hodgepodge of sysv init, upstart and systemd
[09:56] <Cheez> well, it's not, it's systemd, it's just got legacy handlers for people used to the sysv init or upstart way of doing things.
[09:56] <tomreyn> aLeSD: "service" is used for upstart, "systemctl" is used for systemd
[09:56] <ne2k> I /believe/ (and I may be wrong here) that, starting with 16.04, ubuntu /actually/ uses systemd, and the other stuff is just wrappers for backwards compatibility. what Cheez said
[09:57] <ne2k> 14.04 uses upstart, afaik. and to make matters worse, seemingly actually has systemd installed, but doesn't use it
[09:57] <tomreyn> muhaha: try #ubuntu-server
[09:58] <tomreyn> !register | you will need to register, though, muhaha
[09:58] <ne2k> tomreyn, let me guess. is every possible surface in your house spotlessly clear, with no objects ever left out anywhere on any surface?
[09:58] <tomreyn> ne2k: your chat is still off topic here
[09:59] <ne2k> tomreyn, you're giving me a right good laugh today. thank you!
[09:59] <aLeSD> tomreyn, why 2 different things ?
[10:00] <tomreyn> aLeSD: two different things? what do you mean?
[10:01] <aLeSD> upstart and systemd
[10:02] <Cheez> aLeSD: things move on, sysv init was no longer really fit for purpose, upstart was chosen to replace it, but then systemd became more widely accepted and distros like debian (which ubuntu is based on) switched to that instead, albeit controvercially. So ubuntu followed suit.
[10:02] <tomreyn> 14.04 used upstart, 16.04 and later use systemd. it's not uncommon that the default software used for a certain set of tasks changes across major releases
[10:03] <ne2k> tomreyn, you really are very special
[10:03] <tomreyn> ne2k: you really are very focussed on me. please stop the highlighting, thanks.
[10:03] <ne2k> tomreyn, IRC is text only. any highlighting is being done by you
[10:04] <tomreyn> ignored.
[10:04] <ne2k> you haven't, though, have you
[10:04] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[10:04] <mwsb> ne2k: Please don't. This channel is strictly support. Just move on.
[10:05] <ne2k> well, in that case, support me. how do I get /dev/net/tun made at startup on bionic in lxc?
[10:12] <WiseMonk> hello
[10:13] <WiseMonk> I followed this tutorial to use tcpdump, https://www.stev.org/post/howtoruntcpdumpasroot  , but i still get error when typing tcpdump into terminal:tcpdump: WARNING: wlp4s0: SIOCETHTOOL(ETHTOOL_GUFO) ioctl failed: Operation not permitted
[10:14] <gpunk> are you root ?
[10:15] <gpunk> oh, did you log off then back on ?
[10:17] <WiseMonk> no, I want to use it as non root user, to minimise the security risks
[10:18] <WiseMonk> yes even after restart still i get error
[10:19] <gpunk> please checkout #networking then
[10:21] <gpunk> https://askubuntu.com/questions/530920/tcpdump-permissions-problem
[10:22] <tomreyn> WiseMonk: see --relinquish-privileges=user on the tcpdump man page
[10:57] <WiseMonk> cant get it to run as user
[10:57] <WiseMonk> is it safe to run tcpdump as root?
[11:01] <gpunk> yes
[11:02] <WiseMonk> ok, thanks
[11:12] <CohenianCohenite> Hello!
[11:13] <CohenianCohenite> Hello Gareppa!
[11:13] <CohenianCohenite> Uhmm.. guys I have a little problem..
[11:30] <feelx> Hello
[11:31] <feelx> Has anyone one ran into this with latest Ubuntu : https://gitlab.com/snippets/1753926
[11:33] <leftyfb> feelx: did you try what it said a the bottom?
[11:33] <oerheks> feelx, looks like you need to run update first
[11:33] <oerheks> !info linux-libc-dev
[11:33] <oerheks> linux-libc-dev_4.15.0-33.3 is old
[11:34] <feelx> Hm, yeah I did
[11:34] <oerheks> sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade, and after installing the latest stuff, reboot, and try  again
[11:34] <oerheks> no you did not, that package is from an old list
[11:36] <CarlFK> feelx: pastebin the output from sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade
[11:37] <feelx> CarlFK: it is running now
[11:37] <feelx> I did the apt update but not the upgrade
[11:38] <feelx> All fixed now thanks guys.
[11:38] <oerheks> feelx, have fun!
[12:16] <survietanime> hello, I'd like to know why /etc/apt/apt.conf has sticky bit
[12:18] <survietanime> I've asked #debian, they say that file don't exist no more
[12:18] <avu> survietanime: 18.04 doesn't have it by default either
[12:18] <ioria> used for proxy,iirc
[12:19] <avu> survietanime: we have /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/ but none of the files there use any sort of special permissions
[12:19] <survietanime> yeah, I'm writing ansible playbook to modify proxy for Apt on many servers, and I've seen that sticky bit
[12:19] <survietanime> I can tell ansible to set it, but I don't get why sticky bit for a configuration file
[12:19] <ioria> well,remove it :þ
[12:20] <survietanime> avu: yeah, me neither, only /etc/apt/apt.conf has
[12:20] <flj> http://kicad-pcb.org/ I have installed kicad 5. I want to import cabinet data for an olimex notebook. I think the data is located here https://github.com/OLIMEX/DIY-LAPTOP/blob/master/HARDWARE/A64-TERES/KiCad/Components.old/OLIMEX_Cases.lib how do I open the file in kicad?
[12:20] <avu> does the sticky bit on file even do anything on linux?
[12:20] <avu> I only know it on directories
[12:21]  * survietanime hopes it's not a weirdness of the lxc template he downloaded :/
[12:21] <survietanime> avu: yeah, but makes sense only on executable from what I know
[12:21] <avu> man chmod only talks about 'some older systems'
[12:21] <avu> survietanime: what does it do there?
[12:21] <survietanime> to get it sticky in memory, that's why it's named like that
[12:22] <survietanime> it was useful in old times, computers with few memory
[12:22] <avu> again, that's "for some older systems" according to the manpage, suggesting the bit does nothing on modern Linux
[12:22] <survietanime> yeah, I know, but I was wondering if Ubuntu team set it, maybe it's somehow useful
[12:28] <oerheks> flj, you might want to reask in #kicad here on #freenode
[12:29] <oerheks> i wonder why we have such old version ..
[12:29] <oerheks> !info kicad
[12:30] <ioria> survietanime, that was the 'old' use of the sticky bit
[12:31] <survietanime> ioria: how is it useful on configuration files?
[12:32] <survietanime> ioria: to get configuration files remaining in memory?
[12:32] <ioria> survietanime, now it's used to forbid a delete
[12:32] <flj> Thank you oerheks. I will try.
[12:33] <ioria> survietanime, nope, it's useful on a multi-users system
[12:33] <survietanime> ioria: but, only on directories, not files, no?
[12:33] <survietanime> like in /tmp, but I still don't get why on files
[12:34] <ioria> survietanime, most of the case, it's used on files
[12:34] <survietanime> and /etc/apt doesn't has it set
[12:34] <survietanime> ioria: ok, so, the reason is to keep /etc/apt/apt.conf present even if it's empty.
[12:34] <avu> just looked it up, the linux kernel does indeed ignore the sticky bit on files
[12:35] <survietanime> avu: ok, so, I think I won't care about it on my ansible playbook
[12:37] <ioria> survietanime, sy, i meant used on directories
[12:38] <survietanime> ioria: ah ok, so, there is really no reason that file has (and needs) that sticky bit
[12:38] <BenderRodriguez> Hi
[12:38] <BenderRodriguez> is there a gui package for xinput?
[12:38] <kneeki> How do I make /etc/systemd/system a directory again? I'm getting this: sudo systemctl list-unit-files
[12:38] <kneeki>  --- Failed to list unit files: Not a directory
[12:38] <BenderRodriguez> I'm trying to adjust my mouse's scroll wheel distance
[12:39] <BenderRodriguez> but no such option exists, insanely enough
[12:39] <BenderRodriguez> :-)
[12:39] <blackflow> kneeki: lol, what did you do? losing /etc/systemd/system   .... that sounds like a disaster
[12:40] <RDaneel01ivaw> hi everyone, I'm having a new issue that just started on it's own this morning. I've had chromium installed forever, but just today the mouse pointer has changed ONLY on chromium so it's not the same as all other apps. It's some weird black pointer. Any ideas on how to get this pointer cursor to be like the rest of the entire OS? I tried the usr/share/icons edit and that did not help.
[12:40] <ioria> survietanime, it's the same thing
[12:40] <kneeki> Well, it's not gone. I can get the contents of /etc/systemd/system using ls but I can't use any systemctl commands nor will some of the services start up; like Samba
[12:41] <blackflow> kneeki: then why are you asking how to "make it a directory again" if it already is...
[12:41] <survietanime> ioria: same thing? All documentation I've read say that behaviour on files and directories are different
[12:41] <ioria> survietanime, really ?
[12:41] <survietanime> ioria: about sticky bit, yes
[12:41] <avu> ioria: yes, again, the sticky bit does absolutely nothing on files
[12:41] <kneeki> blackflow, Well I'm not sure what question to ask. =\ sudo systemctl list-unit-files
[12:41] <kneeki>  gives me: Failed to list unit files: Not a directory
[12:41] <avu> (on Linux, that is)
[12:42] <survietanime> kneeki: namei -l /etc/systemd/system
[12:42] <survietanime> did you change permissions somewhere?
[12:43] <survietanime> avu: yeah, definitely, I won't care about that again, considering it as some Ubuntu weirdness
[12:43] <kneeki> survietanime, not that I know. All I did was create a custom service by adding a file there. Once I did that all hell broke loose. f: /etc/systemd/system
[12:43] <kneeki>  -- drwxr-xr-x root root /
[12:43] <kneeki>  -- drwxr-xr-x root root etc
[12:43] <kneeki>  -- drwxr-xr-x root root systemd --
[12:43] <kneeki> drwxr-xr-x root root system
[12:44] <kneeki> Ah crap! I was worried that would happen.
[12:44] <survietanime> uh
[12:45] <kneeki> Sorry about the spam. =\ https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/9dKhKrBJqM/
[12:46] <ioria> avu, don't you get the capital 'T' if you set the sticky bit on a file ?
[12:47] <survietanime> kneeki: so permissions are ok
[12:47] <survietanime> kneeki: do you have some alias running instead of the real command?
[12:47] <avu> ioria: sure, you can set the bit on files, it just doesn't have any effect
[12:47] <kneeki> survietanime, I don't think so? Here's what the samba service looks like: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/y6HS5Q9Z59/
[12:47] <kneeki> It's... really weird. =\
[12:49] <blackflow> kneeki: and what's inside /etc/systemd/system/ ?
[12:50] <kneeki> blackflow, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/TTv9w77hhM/
[12:51] <blackflow> kneeki: which file did you add there?
[12:51] <survietanime> kneeki: type systemctl
[12:51] <ioria> avu, ok
[12:52] <kneeki> blackflow, I've removed it awhile back. It was named something like: apache2-stayalive.service
[12:53] <kneeki> survietanime, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/ShqTPT5k4H/
[12:54] <ioria> avu, but if a set the sticky bit on an executable,  it remove the execution bit
[12:54] <ioria> *I
[12:55] <survietanime> I don't think so
[12:55] <ioria> avu, for 'others' i mean
[12:55] <kneeki> Think I'd save time just wiping this box and reinstalling? It's my development virtualbox
[12:55] <survietanime> kneeki: I really meant you type the command 'type systemctl', but looks like your systemctl is not fully broken
[12:56] <kneeki> Right, but I can't use systemctl list-unit-files
[12:56] <kneeki> Oh, sorry. systemctl is hashed (/bin/systemctl)
[12:56] <survietanime> kneeki: ok, so no alias
[12:57] <avu> ioria: that's just a result of how ls (-l) displays permissions, using the same position for sticky and execute
[12:57] <avu> ioria: remove the sticky bit again and you can see that the file is still o+x
[12:57] <ioria> avu, oh, yeah
[12:58] <survietanime> ioria: if it's lowercase t, then the x hasn't been removed
[12:58] <ioria> avu, yes it is
[13:06] <survietanime> kneeki: did you try tools like strace on that command?
[13:06] <kneeki> survietanime, no I haven't. Never heard of it.
[13:08] <pikapika> Hi
[13:08] <pikapika> What is the ideal way to disable a piece of hardware/device?
[13:10] <pikapika> I vaguely remember for a different linux variant there was a method wherein you entered a command which displayed a list of devices and their IDs, and when the device was in use it displayed the data obtained from it (for example if its a mouse, it would display along with its ID, movement realted details, etc). After that one edited an xml config file and added the device marked as disabled.
[13:10] <pikapika> Does a similar process work here? If not, what is the correct approach?
[13:13] <survietanime> by disabling its module?
[13:13] <pikapika> I am rather new to these things, can it be expanded what it means to disable a module?
[13:14] <survietanime> long time ago, I did use modules blacklist
[13:14] <bluesmonk> hi! I am using an azure linux VM, and I'm trying to attach a new disk to the vm, following the steps in https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/virtual-machines/linux/attach-disk-portal#connect-to-the-linux-vm-to-mount-the-new-disk. There is one parte though I can't understand, how can one tell which is the new volume? It could be sdb or sda. The tutorial uses dmesg | grep SCSI.
[13:14] <survietanime> but I'm not sure if there is a modern/more correct way of doing such things
[13:15] <pikapika> I found something similar to yours on askubuntu (2012 post)
[13:16] <pikapika> Hopefully it still works
[13:16] <survietanime> kneeki: it's well know tool for system admins. If you capture the output of it, maybe someone can help
[13:17] <survietanime> kneeki: but, as you wrote, if you don't really care of how it happened, it would be faster to spawn a new virtual machine/container...
[13:18] <kneeki> survietanime, Mhmm - I really think that's the best bet. =(
[14:08] <Dice24> Hello. I've installed a bittorrent software that is set up to work with a web gui on myip:8080. I opened the port 8080 using ufw allow 8080, but going to myip:8080 gives me the error "Connection refused". How do I solve this problem?
[14:10] <lotus|NUC> Dice24: isnt it 127.0.0.1:8080 you need to open?
[14:11] <SheepMaester> First try either lotus|NUC's suggestion or localhost:8080 and report back.
[14:11] <Dice24> Yes, localhost:8080. I don't know how to specify this when opening the port
[14:11] <lotus|NUC> Dice24: wich torrent package is this, deluge?
[14:12] <Dice24> qbittorrent
[14:13] <adrian_1908> Dice24: have you ever accessed another server on localhost? E.g. does `localhost:631` (CUPS) work?
[14:13] <lotus|NUC> Dice24: tryed another browser too?
[14:16] <Dice24> adrian_1908: doesn't work, but I have a web server that works
[14:16] <Dice24> lotus|NUC: yes
[14:17] <Dice24> I think there's a simple configuration somewhere that I haven't set
[14:17] <lotus|NUC> Dice24: try 192.0.X.X:8080 also?
[14:17] <adrian_1908> Dice24: So, did you have to open a port for the web server, or did it just work? If the latter, then qBittorrent probably needs more configuration.
[14:20] <Dice24> adrian_1908: I think I had to open a port. qBittorrent doesn't have much in the configuration file and the guide didn't specify any other options. I think I've done something incorrect when opening the port
[14:20] <Dice24> lotus|NUC: I will right now
[14:21] <adrian_1908> Dice24: have you read the documentation? What did you write into the IP address field in qBittorrent prefs?
[14:23] <Dice24> adrian_1908: I am having trouble finding the options, I'm not using a gui
[14:25] <adrian_1908> Dice24: in your qBittorrent.conf, it would be `WebUI\Address=` under [Preferences]
[14:27] <adrian_1908> WebUI\Enabled=true WebUI\Port=8080 etc.
[14:30] <Dice24> adrian_1908: there isn't, I'm adding it then
[14:34] <Dice24> I cannot find any documentation that answers my questions
[14:36] <Dice24> adrian_1908: my config file seems to be very incomplete
[14:36] <Dice24> I don't know why this happened
[14:38] <adrian_1908> Dice24: I think that's normal, in the GUI version, qBittorrent only adds these options to the conf file if you diverge from the defaults. Sucks if there's no good documentation on these options as you say.
[14:38] <Dice24> adrian_1908: I followed specific instructions when installing this, which said that it should work after doing everything I did
[14:38] <Dice24> for some reason it's not enough in my case
[14:39] <Dice24> Makes me think I've done something wrong with the ports rather than the config
[14:40] <adrian_1908> Dice24: is it a headless server you're trying to configure?
[14:41] <Dice24> adrian_1908: the monitor is in another city so for me it is
[14:41] <Dice24> x11 is not possible
[14:41] <pavlos> Dice24: netstat -tlp will show which ports are open and listening
[14:42] <adrian_1908> Hehe, i love the way you put that. I would try adding the options I mentioned, and setting WebUI\Address=127.0.0.1 and then use something like curl on http://127.0.0.1:8080 to see if the qBt web interface gets returned. If that works, you can look into other issues like ports.
[14:43] <Dice24> adrian_1908: https://pastebin.com/XLrVAfZx
[14:43] <adrian_1908> (curl on the remote machine that is)
[14:43] <adrian_1908> pavlos: url is meant for you ^
[14:44] <pavlos> adrian_1908: got it, thx
[14:47] <Dice24> adrian_1908: same problem, connection refused
[14:48] <adrian_1908> Dice24: you're reloading the config (or restarting qBt), yes?
[14:48] <Dice24> yes
[14:48] <adrian_1908> Yeah then it's probably ports. Alas, I don't know my way around ufw, so i cannot be of much help.
[14:49] <Dice24> I think I might be able to fix it
[14:49] <Dice24> when I'm able to use x11
[14:50] <Dice24> thanks
[14:50] <adrian_1908> good luck
[14:52] <pavlos> Dice24: Is this the link you followed? https://github.com/qbittorrent/qBittorrent/wiki/Setting-up-qBittorrent-on-Ubuntu-server-as-daemon-with-Web-interface-(15.04-and-newer)
[14:54] <Dice24> pavlos: yes
[14:55] <pavlos> Dice24: look at /var/log/syslog and /var/log/qbitorrent.log to see issues
[14:55] <pavlos> Dice24: is qbittorrent service running?
[14:57] <Dice24> I don't see any issues
[14:57] <Dice24> yes it's running
[14:59] <pavlos> Dice24: I'll try it on my system and let you know ...
[15:05] <pavlos> Dice24: just tried it ... the line that says become qbtuser should be "sudo su - qbtuser", then I was able to access the gui w/o having to open ports
[15:06] <Dice24> pavlos: i'll uninstall and reinstall
[15:07] <pavlos> Dice24: the - changes to the /home/qbtuser dir and maybe that could be the issue
[15:13] <Dice24> pavlos: "Before we continue, let's run qbittorrent so that it can ask us to accept the disclaimer, and save and create the config file to remember this setting. Doing this will create and save the configuration files under:" this doesn't work
[15:14] <pavlos> Dice24: right, you do the First, line sudo su - qbtuser, verify with pwd and then qbittorrent-nox
[15:15] <Dice24> pavlos: thanks that worked
[15:16] <pavlos> Dice24: if you are qbtuser, look into .config/qbittorrent/ dir
[15:16] <Dice24> now I'm at the point where it starts to refuse my connection
[15:17] <pavlos> Dice24: sudo ufw status
[15:17] <Dice24>  [LegalNotice] Accepted=true[Network] Cookies="__cfduid=d072ba52c27c0e7e97727d08beb48c0d91536938139; HttpOnly; expires=Sat, 14-Sep-2019 15:15:39 GMT; domain=.maxmind.com; path=/"
[15:17] <Dice24> that's my config
[15:18] <Dice24> pavlos: 8080/tcp                   ALLOW       Anywhere
[15:19] <talexb> I'm having an issue with xfce4: my displays randomly switch over to showing me the last screensaver images.
[15:19] <pavlos> Dice24: http://termbin.com/930na
[15:20] <pavlos> Dice24: that the qBittorrent.conf
[15:21] <Dice24> pavlos: still get connection refused
[15:22] <pavlos> Dice24: you're not on the same subnet, eg. 192.168.x.0/24
[15:22] <Dice24> how do I solve that?
[15:22] <pavlos> can you ping the host that has qbit?
[15:22] <pavlos> can you ssh the host that has qbit?
[15:23] <Dice24> pavlos: I'm on the server
[15:24] <adrian_1908> pavlos: that's why my first suggestion was to have the qbt web interface listen on 127.0.0.1:8080 and curl from the machine itself to verify it's not qbt itself.
[15:25] <pavlos> Dice24: my host is called FX, I installed qbit, it is running on a terminal ... I went to another host within my network, http://fx:8080 and get the gui
[15:26] <Dice24> pavlos: same error
[15:26] <ioria> Dice24, sudo lsof -i :8080
[15:26] <Dice24> ioria: returns nothing
[15:26] <ioria> Dice24, nothis is running on that port, then
[15:27] <ioria> nothing
[15:27] <Dice24> then I must be having some sort of problem starting qbittorrent
[15:27] <ioria> i guess so
[15:27] <adrian_1908> Dice24: but qbt is running, yes?
[15:27] <Dice24> as far as I know
[15:27] <alterjsive> I restored my hdd with dd, following this tutorial, I still can't mount my hdd http://www.linuxweblog.com/dd-image
[15:27] <Dice24> I started it, it says it started
[15:28] <adrian_1908> Try e.g. `ps aux | grep qbit` if it's listed
[15:28] <Dice24> lunarmerlin@lunarmerlin:~$ systemctl status qbitorrent-nox Unit qbitorrent-nox.service could not be found.
[15:29] <ioria> Dice24, quite clear
[15:29] <Dice24> yes
[15:29] <Dice24> I don't know why this is
[15:29] <ioria> Dice24, wrong unit file
[15:29] <Dice24> I don't know of any other way to start it, other than typing qbittorrent-nox
[15:29] <alterjsive> anyone here experianced with ristoring a disk dump with dd?
[15:29] <alterjsive> restoring*
[15:29] <Dice24> ioria: how do I correct it?
[15:30] <ioria> Dice24, paste your /etc/systemd/system/qbittorrent-nox.service
[15:31] <Dice24> ioria: https://pastebin.com/CVrB5KwT
[15:31] <Dice24> I just noticed the user is wrong there
[15:32] <ioria> Dice24, yep, and please ls /usr/bin/qbittorrent-nox
[15:33] <Dice24> ioria: not a directory
[15:33] <ioria> Dice24, should  be the executable ...
[15:34] <ioria> Dice24, i mean, where is located you bin file ?
[15:34] <ioria> *your
[15:34] <Dice24> ioria: lunarmerlin@lunarmerlin:~$ ls /usr/bin/qbittorrent-nox Returned: /usr/bin/qbittorrent-nox
[15:34] <Dice24> in green
[15:34] <ioria> ok
[15:35] <ioria> Dice24, fix the user
[15:37] <Dice24> getting this error now: https://pastebin.com/VUBEVj5D
[15:37] <Dice24> wait it's incomplete
[15:38] <ioria> Dice24, sudo systemctl daemon-reload
[15:41] <Dice24> Now I have this error https://pastebin.com/BWbRTLyn
[15:41] <ioria> Dice24, and qbtuser should be in the sudo group, so you need to login again to take effect
[15:42] <ioria> Dice24, is qbtuser  in the sudo group ?
[15:43] <Dice24> now it is
[15:43] <Dice24> still the same problem
[15:43] <ioria> Dice24, sudo lsof -i :8080
[15:43] <Dice24> nothing
[15:44] <Dice24> it doesn't start
[15:44] <Dice24> I assume anyway, I don't get any error messages when I start it. I get the message about the web ui and the passwords
[15:46] <ioria> Dice24, qbittorrent-nox   from terminal ?
[15:46] <Dice24> yes
[15:46] <ioria> Dice24, from another tab sudo netstat -nlp | grep 8080
[15:47] <Dice24> ioria: I don't think there are tabs in putty
[15:47] <ioria> puty ?
[15:47] <Dice24> the ssh client
[15:47] <ioria> yes
[15:48] <ioria> Dice24, idk....   sudo nmap localhost
[15:48] <Dice24> I could open another window so no problem there
[15:48] <Dice24> ioria: unix  2      [ ACC ]     STREAM     LISTENING     28080    1098/dovecot         /var/run/dovecot/login/imap
[15:49] <ioria> Dice24, nope, that is dovecot
[15:49] <Dice24> tcp        0      0 0.0.0.42:8080           0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN      13255/qbittorrent-n
[15:49] <ioria> Dice24, ah, good that is from  netstat -nlp cmd ?
[15:49] <Dice24> yes
[15:50] <GJdan> I have a question.  What happens with the php7.0 package in Ubuntu 16 with PHP 7.0 reaching end of life in december?
[15:50] <ioria> Dice24, let's confirm with     sudo nmap localhost
[15:50] <Dice24> sudo: nmap: command not found
[15:50] <ioria> Dice24, you need to install it, if you want
[15:51] <pragmaticenigma> !info php-7.0 Xenial
[15:51] <pragmaticenigma> !info php-7.0 enial
[15:51] <pragmaticenigma> !info php-7.0 xenial
[15:51] <teward> pragmaticenigma: sounds like you need to PM Ubottu to infinitely query it
[15:52] <ioria> Dice24, and the gui still not working ?
[15:52] <Dice24> ioria: 8080 doesn't show up there
[15:53] <ioria> Dice24, ps -ef | grep 13255
[15:53] <Dice24> qbtuser  13255 13162  0 17:49 pts/0    00:00:00 qbittorrent-nox
[15:54] <ioria> Dice24, for me is running now ....
[15:54] <GJdan> huh, I'm looking at a system right now admittedly I didn't build it, so I guess I don't know all the details at a glance, but it looks like they have php7.0 in xenial.. some strange repo perhaps?
[15:54] <Dice24> ioria: still connection refused for me
[15:54] <ioria> Dice24,  try to disable the firewall   sudo ufw disable
[15:55] <Dice24> ioria: and restart?
[15:55] <ioria> Dice24,  nope
[15:55] <Dice24> still connection refused
[15:55] <ioria> Dice24,  a problem from the client side
[15:55] <TheGoodUser> Hi all, need some informations about how to configure netplan with ubuntu as guest in virtualbox
[15:55] <Dice24> ioria: what could that be?
[15:56] <pavlos> do we have a paste if this, sudo systemctl status qbittorrent.service
[15:56] <TheGoodUser> I need to run a website on apache from within ubuntu-virtualbox
[15:56] <GJdan> !info php7.0 xenial
[15:56] <ioria> Dice24,  was just a speculation, probably about the fw
[15:56] <GJdan> no dash
[15:57] <GJdan> So uhh, yeah, what happens after December 3rd?
[15:57] <ioria> Dice24,  can you connect via another client ?
[15:57] <pragmaticenigma> GJdan: This channel is run by volunteers. We don't know what Canonical is planning to do with php7.0 in xenial. I would recommend you, or your IT group, being a migration plan to update Ubuntu to a newer version.
[15:58] <pavlos> Dice24: do we have a paste of this, sudo systemctl status qbittorrent.service
[15:58] <pragmaticenigma> GJdan: It's possible that security fixes could get back-ported by the Ubuntu developers, but there is no guarantee of that.
[15:58] <ntd> pragmaticenigma, they are gonna keep GNOME and VLC vulnerable
[15:58] <Dice24> pavlos: https://pastebin.com/jDvkg60u
[15:59] <Dice24> ioria: I don't have another client
[15:59] <pavlos> Dice24: it should be be enabled and then started, try
[15:59] <Dice24> "qbittorrent-nox" does nothing now
[16:00] <pavlos> Dice24: how it should look ... http://termbin.com/8yuz
[16:00] <Dice24> pavlos: yes, that's how it looked before
[16:01] <Dice24> now I get nothing
[16:01] <pavlos> Dice24: the name of the service is qbittorrent, the binary is -nox
[16:02] <Dice24> it doesn't start anymore
[16:02] <pavlos> Dice24: "sudo systemctl enable qbittorrent" should create a sym.link
[16:02] <Dice24> yes, I did that just now
[16:03] <pavlos> Dice24: and sudo systemctl start qbittorrent fails?
[16:04] <Dice24> pavlos: it doesn't return anything
[16:04] <Dice24> status says it's startd
[16:05] <Dice24> still connection refused
[16:05] <pavlos> Dice24: can you paste the status again?
[16:05] <Dice24> pavlos: https://pastebin.com/chDukH7j
[16:05] <pavlos> it's dead !
[16:06] <Dice24> pavlos: how do I revive it?
[16:07] <pavlos> Dice24: is the a process running ... ps -ef | grep qbit  (I get qbtuser  17195     1  0 09:04 ?        00:00:00 /usr/bin/qbittorrent-nox
[16:08] <kroms> I have a noob question regarding upgrading linux kernel.  When I install 4.18, it runs fine but when I try to install other applications its trying to get me to uninstall 4.18 headers. Is there any way to fix that?
[16:08] <Dice24> qbtuser  14773     1  0 18:04 ?        00:00:00 /usr/bin/qbittorrent-nox -d
[16:08] <Dice24>  lunarme+ 14795 14605  0 18:08 pts/2    00:00:00 grep --color=auto qbit
[16:09] <leftyfb> kroms: why are you installing 4.18?
[16:10] <kroms> leftyfb, to see if my xps 15 with amd runs any better since they added support for vega m
[16:10] <pavlos> Dice24: killall qbittorrent-nox
[16:10] <leftyfb> kroms: does it?
[16:10] <pavlos> Dice24: ps should be clean ... now start it again and verify
[16:10] <Dice24> pavlos: no process found
[16:11] <kroms> seems slightly smoother, fans run less (I think) may be placebo
[16:11] <Dice24> pavlos: same messages on status and the other command
[16:11] <leftyfb> kroms: I would determine that first. If it doesn't make a different, remove the unsupported kernel and you're in a better place
[16:11] <pavlos> Dice24: so you try to start it, then status, but it is not green
[16:11] <kroms> gotcha. thanks leftyfb
[16:11] <Dice24> pavlos: yes
[16:12] <pavlos> Dice24: can you paste /etc/systemd/system/qbittorrent.service
[16:13] <Dice24> pavlos: https://pastebin.com/EDSSNDG3
[16:14] <pavlos> Dice24: then, sudo systemctl daemon-reload
[16:15] <pavlos> Dice24: then, sudo systemctl enable qbittorrent
[16:15] <pavlos> Dice24: then, sudo systemctl start qbittorrent
[16:15] <pavlos> Dice24: then, sudo systemctl status qbittorrent
[16:16] <pavlos> Dice24: if process is not running (green) idk
[16:29] <pavlos> Dice24: try this ... sudo journalctl -u qbittorrent.service
[16:31] <Dice24> pavlos: service says the same thing
[16:31] <Dice24> https://pastebin.com/485AtMbi journalctl
[16:33] <pavlos> Dice24: what ubuntu release on merlin?
[16:33] <Dice24> 18.04
[16:34] <pavlos> Dice24: I sugest we start from the beginning from the link I followed ...
[16:34] <pavlos> Dice24: sudo apt install qbittorrent-nox
[16:35] <pavlos> Dice24: sudo adduser qbtuser
[16:35] <pavlos> Dice24: create service (which you showed looks ok
[16:36] <pavlos> Dice24: become qbtuser (sudo su - qbtuser
[16:37] <pavlos> Dice24: run qbitttorent-nox once ... look that it created a .config/qbittorrent/qbittorrent.conf
[16:37] <pavlos> Dice24: then enable/start/status the qbittorrent service, that's it
[16:38] <Dice24> sudo enable qbittorrent or qbittorrent-nox?
[16:41] <ioria> Dice24,  maybe you have two units files ,  to be sure   :  ls /etc/systemd/system/ | grep qbit
[16:42] <Dice24> qbittorrent-nox.service and qbittorrent.service ioria
[16:42] <pavlos> Dice24: then enable/start/status the qbittorrent service  -nox is the binary
[16:42] <ioria> Dice24, not good,just one
[16:42] <Dice24> which one do I delete?
[16:42] <ioria> Dice24, the first
[16:46] <Dice24> ok it's green and active now
[16:47] <Dice24> but still connection refused
[16:48] <ioria> Dice24, and  sudo lsof -i :8080    ? still blank ?
[16:48] <Dice24>  qbittorre 16682 qbtuser   22u  IPv4 241831      0t0  TCP 0.0.0.42:http-alt (LIST
[16:50] <pavlos> Dice24: wget merlin:8080 should get an index.html file
[16:51] <Dice24> pavlos: I get connection refused
[16:51] <Dice24> it does say 127.0.1.1 instead of 127.0.0.1 though
[16:53] <pavlos> Dice24: do you have openssh-server and -client installed on merlin?
[16:53] <Dice24> pavlos: I have some sort of ssh software installed at least
[16:54] <pavlos> Dice24: apt search openssh
[16:54] <Dice24> no openssh
[16:54] <Dice24> i do have ssh though
[16:56] <pavlos> Dice24: what happens if you type, ssh merlin
[16:56] <Dice24> it asks if I want to connect
[16:56] <Dice24> the ip is 127.0.1.1
[16:57] <Borw3> LOL, isn't that local host?
[16:57] <Dice24> yes it is
[16:58] <newbie66> I can't seem to to connect my HTC One M9 through MTP and I've been trying for hours
[16:58] <Dice24> pavlos: could that be the reason why connection is refused?
[16:58] <pavlos> Dice24: type, nc merlin 22 what do you get?
[16:59] <Dice24> SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_7.6p1 Ubuntu-4
[16:59] <newbie66> Dolphin says "The process for the mtp protocol died unexpectedly."
[16:59] <pavlos> Dice24: make sure you have openssh-server installed
[16:59] <Dice24> pavlos: ok
[16:59] <Dice24> I'm connecting to it through ssh
[17:00] <pavlos> Dice24: yes, that command tried to connect to merlin on port 22 and merlin replied I have openSSH
[17:01] <Dice24> i have openssh-server too
[17:02] <limbo_> Anyone know of good mail server software that's not just a wrapper around postfix/dovecot? Ideally something that's a single program.
[17:02] <pavlos> Dice24: and sudo ufw status is inactive
[17:03] <nacc_> limbo_: why not use those directly? also, #ubuntu-server. Also, if you are actually intending to run your own mail server, please have a good reason and sufficient training
[17:03] <alterjsive> can someone help me restore a disk dump image ? i'll pay 50 euro
[17:03] <alterjsive> goo.gl/t2j1X1
[17:03] <Dice24> pavlos: it gives me the ports
[17:04] <pavlos> Dice24: can you temp disable ufw and try ?
[17:04] <limbo_> nacc_: because they've been giving me trouble, and I wanted to use something more modern and easy to configure.
[17:04] <Dice24> pavlos: still refused
[17:05] <pavlos> Dice24: well, I will boot up an 18.04 VM and try the same steps. If someone else can help, chime in ...
[17:08] <nacc_> limbo_: tbh, configuring a mail server is, by definition, not easy
[17:09] <Sagitt> buonasera, una domanda.... come mai su ubuntu 18.04 durante il setup non è possibile usare un nome MAIUSCOLO per il nome del computer (versione live server)?
[17:09] <pragmaticenigma> alterjsive: was the drive taken off line before running the backup?
[17:09] <nacc_> !it | Sagitt
[17:09] <limbo_> nacc_: I've used some propietart solutions before, and they were much easier.
[17:10] <Sagitt> sorry
[17:10] <limbo_> Is ti pretty much just two softwares that are primarily used for mail?
[17:11] <alterjsive> pragmaticenigma, no
[17:12] <pragmaticenigma> alterjsive: then the data is not likely recoverable. DD requires the device to be taken offline, otherwise data can and does reamin in system caches and isn't flushed to the disk.
[17:13] <alterjsive> pragmaticenigma, is it offline if you use a linux disk?
[17:13] <alterjsive> live disk
[17:14] <alterjsive> kubuntu installer disk
[17:14] <pragmaticenigma> alterjsive: disk is considered live if it is mounted
[17:15] <alterjsive> pragmaticenigma, I think I booted from cdrom and I didn't mount it
[17:16] <Dice24> pavlos: does it work for you?
[17:16] <pavlos> Dice24: I'm following the steps ...
[17:17] <pragmaticenigma> alterjsive: How was the backup image created?
[17:17] <alterjsive> pragmaticenigma, using the
[17:17] <alterjsive> https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/Nmt5scCRj3/
[17:18] <pragmaticenigma> alterjsive: I've looked at that... that doesn't tell me the state of the computer and what you had setup
[17:19] <pavlos> Dice24: yes, it works for me
[17:19] <Dice24> strange
[17:19] <Dice24> pavlos: my host has the ip 127.0.1.1 instead of 127.0.0.1, could that be the issue?
[17:20] <alterjsive> pragmaticenigma,  I booted from a live disk and did a disk from my 3 sdd's in raid 0 dump to my 2TB hdd
[17:20] <pavlos> Dice24: my /etc/hosts has 127.0.0.1	localhost
[17:20] <pavlos> 127.0.1.1	bionic
[17:20] <alterjsive> disk dump*
[17:21] <pragmaticenigma> alterjsive: lets start in a different direction. Was this back up made in preparation for a backup or was it a nightly/scheduled job?
[17:21] <pragmaticenigma> *preparation for a data migration (not backup)
[17:21] <alterjsive> pragmaticenigma manual backup
[17:21] <pragmaticenigma> alterjsive: and the manual backup was done within the live boot disk?
[17:21] <porky11> I'm just running ubuntu live disk on my laptop, but about every 15 seconds, my display gets dark. The only way to get it on again is pressing the shutdown key and then pressing cancel, which lets me do something for maybe 10 seconds
[17:21] <Dice24> pavlos: same as me
[17:22] <alterjsive> pragmaticenigma, yes
[17:22] <anton__> Hi. I have a question about files and the file system and hardlinks...
[17:22] <pavlos> Dice24: can you paste the sudo ufw status (if you have sensitive stuff, dont
[17:22] <Dice24> pavlos: disabled
[17:23] <pavlos> Dice24: that's very strange ...
[17:23] <pragmaticenigma> alterjsive: Then that would mean the drive was offline (unmounted) during the backup. That's important from the context of ensuring the data wasn't corrupted or missing. Is the source drive compromised in any way, or is this just moving data to a more efficient storage setup?
[17:23] <pavlos> Dice24: stop/start the qbittorent service to have a clean state
[17:24] <nacc_> anton__: if it's general, you may ask in #linux?
[17:25] <alterjsive> pragmaticenigma, 3 ssd's in raid 0 are not reliable, this is why i make regular backups. They worked fine when I did the backup
[17:25] <anton__> I have a directory (lets call it x) and in that dir are +9000 files. My webserver does serve files from that directory and my db server needs to change file from time to time... But this could cause some major problems. Because if client 1 is reading the file WHILE client 2 is changing... well client 1 is getting a byte mess.... so what should I do?
[17:25] <pragmaticenigma> alterjsive: So this is moving data from the SSD to the single larger drive?
[17:25] <alterjsive> pragmaticenigma, yes
[17:26] <Dice24> pavlos: I did
[17:26] <porky11> I also disabled every energy dimming, but didn'T help
[17:26] <johnjay> i'm on 16.04 and need gcc6, but gcc5 is only one available. i tried installing gcc-6-base but that's not enough?
[17:26] <anton__> nacc_: is this general?
[17:28] <nacc_> anton__: why is your database server changing files ina  web directory?
[17:28] <pavlos> Dice24: and status is active (green) service, sudo journalctl -u qbittorrent.service  should give you many lines
[17:29] <anton__> nacc_: because at the start of a file are some important metadata bytes.
[17:29] <pragmaticenigma> alterjsive: and the SSDs / source drives were imaged while they were seen as a single device? (I'm not familiar with RAID terminology)
[17:29] <pavlos> Dice24: my output http://termbin.com/muit
[17:29] <anton__> nacc_: its something like           |------metadata-------|----------filecontent--------|
[17:31] <alterjsive> pragmaticenigma, yes
[17:31] <nacc_> anton__: this sounds like poorly designed software deployment. If you want to make it so you don't get this inconsisent data, you should open those files in some exclusive mode.
[17:32] <Dice24> pavlos: I have the same output
[17:32] <porky11> not only the display gets dark but it suspends every 15 seconds
[17:32] <alterjsive> software raid configured from my bios raid setup
[17:32] <pavlos> Dice24: are you running on both ipv4 and ipv6 by chance?
[17:33] <Dice24> pavlos: I don't think so
[17:33] <pragmaticenigma> alterjsive: Some of what is confusing is it looks like both the imaging and restore are involving the same disks
[17:33] <anton__> nacc_: that would be good. but I dont know how something like that could be done...
[17:33] <pragmaticenigma> alterjsive: the image was created from isw_bhjfdigbfh_Volume1 and then the image was written to isw_bhjfdigbfh_Volume1
[17:35] <anton__> nacc_: I thought maybe using hardlink could work... so I create a file in some directory (like /tmp) and write to it all changes; and than override the old file with that hardlink. and delete file in /tmp after that.... or is that complete shit?
[17:35] <alterjsive> pragmaticenigma, yeah it was a simular name. not exactly the same
[17:35] <anton__> nacc_: because what happens to the replaced file (maybe still open) if I remove last reference to that inote
[17:36] <pavlos> Dice24: can you reboot merlin? I'm running out of ideas
[17:36] <anton__> nacc_: s/inote/inode
[17:36] <Dice24> yes
[17:36] <pragmaticenigma> alterjsive: want to double check that... what you posted, they're identical
[17:37] <pragmaticenigma> alterjsive: if=/dev/mapper/isw_bhjfdigbfh_Volume1
[17:37] <pragmaticenigma> alterjsive: of=/dev/mapper/isw_bhjfdigbfh_Volume1
[17:37] <alterjsive> pragmaticenigma, yeah I don't remember the exact name, but it was simular
[17:38] <nacc_> anton__: i'm not sure what hardlinks have to do with it
[17:38] <anton__> nacc_: sry. thought had to use them... simple copy would do
[17:39] <Dice24> pavlos: I'll try some other things with x11 when I'm able to use it tomorrow
[17:39] <Dice24> thanks =)
[17:40] <anton__> nacc_: because I thought that override should happen in a single change...
[17:40] <pavlos> Dice24: ok, we'll tackle it tomorrow
[17:40] <nacc_> anton__: right, what you are suggesting is possibly reasonable. You *could* do 1) temporary file as a copy of the current; 2) edit temporary file; 3) atomically rename temporary to original
[17:40] <nacc_> anton__: the atomic is the important part
[17:40] <nacc_> anton__: then any reader only sees the old or the new contents
[17:40] <nickked> hello in here. anyone using mate desktop ?
[17:41] <nacc_> nickked: yes, many are, ask your actual question.
[17:41] <anton__> nacc_: yes. that is why I thought it should happen in one operation... linke in hardlink...
[17:42] <anton__> nacc_: but what would happen to the "old" file inode if it is no longer referenced by a file
[17:42] <nickked> nacc... suddenly my laptop wifi led is red... ok, BUT there is no wifi symbol in my upper taskbar... it worked some time ago,where to start troubleshooting ?
[17:42] <Dice24> pavlos: but first I should try to update the config to make sure it's correct
[17:43] <nacc_> nickked: i have no idea, sorry
[17:43] <nacc_> anton__: it will be removed?
[17:43] <pavlos> Dice24: I followed that link, https://github.com/qbittorrent/qBittorrent/wiki/Setting-up-qBittorrent-on-Ubuntu-server-as-daemon-with-Web-interface-(15.04-and-newer)
[17:43] <rfm> anton__, the old file will disappear when the last process that has it open closes it.
[17:43] <nickked> nacc_, this ubuntu also uses wpasuplicant ?
[17:43] <pavlos> Dice24: and remember,the sudo su - qbtuser
[17:44] <Dice24> pavlos: our configs were different
[17:44] <Dice24> what was your config again?
[17:45] <anton__> rfm: so this would work?
[17:46] <pavlos> Dice24: you mean the /home/qbtuser/.config/qBittorrent/qBittorrent.conf .... http://termbin.com/xxlr
[17:46] <Dice24> yes
[17:46] <pavlos> Dice24: this is from the bionic box
[17:47] <Dice24> pavlos: ah so it's the same
[17:47] <mezod> Hello, I am calling this script from crontab -e: NODE_ENV=production /usr/local/bin/babel-node /home/ubuntu/.../trialExpirationNotice.js >/var/log/everyday-scripts/trialExpirationNotice.log 2>&1. If I call it directly it works and the logs too, but when running from cron it doesn't log anything. I can see the script has run from the syslog. the folder everyday-scripts is 755 and owned by ubuntu root. Any ideas?
[17:48] <pavlos> Dice24: the other box I tested with did not have cookies ... http://termbin.com/xht5
[17:48] <rfm> anton__, the write a file under a new name, then rename the old name to it is a very old UNIX trick.
[17:49] <anton__> rfm: cool.
[17:49] <anton__> rfm: did not know that.
[17:50] <anton__> rfm: and you are sure that the old file reader from webserver ... could still read the old file content (after overriding the "file" with new) till it closes the file?
[17:51] <bynarie> how to get kmesg??
[17:51] <geirha> mezod: that's root's crontab?
[17:53] <geirha> mezod: since the directory has mode 755 and owned by root, only root will be able to create files in there
[17:53] <rfm> anton__, yes, i'm sure.  read the unlink(2) man page (although you should use rename(2) instead of link and unlink to make it atomic)
[17:57] <rfm> anton__, note you should write the new file into the same file system (usually done by writing into the same directory), not /tmp,  since rename(2) does not work across mount points...
[17:57] <anton__> rfm: many thanks for all your help. But I am a new programmer and still new to unix/linux... Could you write a small example for explanation;     like if my directory whould be called xxx and the file in it zzz what steps whould you do in what sequence?
[17:58] <geirha> mezod: Also, if you install an MTA, cron will mail you the output of failed jobs.
[17:58] <anton__> rfm: ok.. could do that
[18:01] <pavlos> bynarie: what is kmesg?
[18:04] <johnjay> can someone explain what ubuntu-toolchain-r ppa is supposed to do?
[18:04] <johnjay> i'm trying to get an updated gcc and someone suggested i use that
[18:05] <rfm> anton__, pretty sure most of the text editors in the world (ed, nano, etc. use this technique, you could read their source
[18:08] <anton__> rfm: ok.
[18:12] <mezod> geirha: sorry I ahd to leave a sec. I run crontab -e connected as ubuntu, so it's probably what you say. However, I also tried it on an already created file. Is it possible that my output is getting overwritten (and since it looks identical I just think it doesn't work?)
[18:13] <genii> johnjay: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ToolChain#PPA_packages
[18:14] <johnjay> genii: ok thanks. i have trouble understanding if a given ppa is official nor not
[18:15] <johnjay> or if it's just a random person hosting it
[18:17] <genii> Yes, sometimes it's difficult to tell.
[18:17] <johnjay> i see...
[18:18] <johnjay> at any rate will i run into problems if i do have gcc8?
[18:18] <johnjay> i.e. presumably with gdb, etc all still version 5.3?
[18:18] <genii> No idea, but possible if they have shared libraries
[18:19] <johnjay> it wanted me to install gmp,mpc, and something else
[18:19] <johnjay> some kind of precision libraries, and gcc-5-multilib
[18:19] <johnjay> making now
[18:21] <geirha> mezod: with >logfile, the file will be emptied each time, yes. If you want to append, use >> instead of >
[18:26] <mezod> geirha: thank you
[18:36] <johnjay> /j/buffer 5
[18:36] <pragmaticenigma> alterjsive: it's kind of important for anyone to be able to help you, to know exactly what you did
[18:40] <nacc_> johnjay: tbc, no PPA is official. Even those that 'seem it' :)
[19:24] <Haris> hello all
[19:25] <Haris> (1) I'm setting hostname on 14.04 lts. but its not setting that (2) I'm setting host to IP mapping in /etc/hosts and then pinging it and getting ping: unknown host in response. What's happening ?
[19:27] <ASMJunkie> Hey i'm having some trouble with nvidia drivers. Anyone able to assist me?
[19:27] <pragmaticenigma> Haris: where are you setting the hostname... and are you attempting to change it "after-the-fact" ... what does your /etc/hosts file, please post (sanitize if necassary) to paste.ubuntu.com
[19:27] <pragmaticenigma> !details | ASMJunkie
[19:27] <pavlos> Haris: hostname should match in /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname
[19:27] <Haris> I run hostname demo-web. add demo-web mapping to local lan ip. then ping demo-web and get this response
[19:28] <leftyfb> Haris: is this a new install?
[19:28] <Haris> no. been a few days
[19:28] <leftyfb> Haris: why did you install 14.04 over 16.04 ot 18.04?
[19:29] <Haris> this is an amazon ec2 instance. it lost its hostname in a reboot
[19:29] <leftyfb> ot/or
[19:29] <leftyfb> Haris: to set your hostname, edit it in /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts
[19:29] <Haris> it had rabbitmq on it. but low ram. got overwhelmed. needed to reboot it. after reboot this is what I have
[19:30] <ASMJunkie> Ah, ok. I am trying to install CUDA / nvidia drivers. I have a 1050TI to run my monitors, and a 1080 for training. I am looking at my installed drivers, and it says i have the option of nvidia-390 and 396.390 is currently selected, and running nvidia-smi, says NVIDIA driver is not loaded
[19:31] <Haris> already done for /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts. do I need a reboot to get it to implement ?
[19:31] <pragmaticenigma> ASMJunkie: Is this on a desktop or laptop?
[19:31] <ASMJunkie> Desktop
[19:32] <ASMJunkie> I am also on 18.04
[19:32] <leftyfb> Haris: sudo hostname <yournewhostname>
[19:32] <pragmaticenigma> ASMJunkie: Are you using any PPAs for nvidia drivers, install them from Nvidia directly, or just using what Ubuntu offers?
[19:33] <ASMJunkie> I'm using the graphics driver ppa IIRC. Can i do something to confirm?
[19:33] <Haris> that didn't do it. hostname doesn't change on active shell, when I run this commnad
[19:33] <Haris> command+
[19:33] <black_mamba> what happened to nfs ? `nfsshare: command not found`
[19:34] <black_mamba> also nfs-util is not found anymore ?
[19:34] <black_mamba> *utils
[19:34] <pragmaticenigma> ASMJunkie: this will tell you, replace package with actual package name: dpkg -s <package>
[19:35] <pragmaticenigma> !info nfs
[19:35] <ASMJunkie> what package am i replacing?
[19:35] <pragmaticenigma> ASMJunkie: The one that is installed, you'll have to fill in the rest: nvidia-*
[19:36] <ASMJunkie> nvidia driver-390? nvidia-driver-396?
[19:36] <murthy> who should I contact regarding the bot nick in the #ubuntu-unregged channel?
[19:36] <pragmaticenigma> !nfs-common | black_mamba
[19:38] <ASMJunkie> pragmaticenigma: Here is the output. https://pastebin.com/A6zU8AXx
[19:38] <pragmaticenigma> murthy: You can try in #ubuntu-ops ... though the purpose of unregged is to deal with situations as that
[19:38] <pragmaticenigma> !nfs-common | black_mamba
[19:39] <pragmaticenigma> !info nfs-common | black_mamba
[19:39] <pragmaticenigma> sorry for the multiple pings... forgot the !info
[19:39] <murthy> pragmaticenigma: thanks I will contact ubuntu-ops
[19:39] <pragmaticenigma> ASMJunkie: Has the machine been rebooted since installing the drivers?
[19:40] <ASMJunkie> Yup. Several times
[19:43] <murthy> pragmaticenigma: Its not about the unregged user, its about the bot nick "Drone" which is synonymous to "baby killer", I want it to be changed to something friendly.
[19:45] <madLyfe> if i just want to temp build with a different version of Qt that i have installed, how would i do that? i build with `QT_SELECT=5 ./build.sh`
[19:45] <madLyfe> currently.
[19:47] <pragmaticenigma> murthy: best of luck... Drone is also the term used for autonomous worker, and is used in all #ubuntu channels. offense to others was never the intention
[19:47] <murthy> pragmaticenigma: checkout the fist definition of a drone in a dictionary online
[19:47] <pragmaticenigma> murthy: the male of the honeybee and other bees, stingless and making no honey.
[19:48] <pragmaticenigma> And this is now offtopic, to continue this debate #ubuntu-offtopic is more appropriate
[19:49] <murthy> pragmaticenigma: also the name drone is popularly known for the killer aircraft's, it would not be appropriate to use this word until the perception of it changes as you mean
[19:49] <pragmaticenigma> !ot | murthy
[19:50] <murthy> pragmaticenigma: i am already registered
[19:52] <murthy> pragmaticenigma: definition from cambridge online dictionary for the word "drone",  "an aircraft that does not have a pilot but is controlled by someone on the ground, used especially for dropping bombs or for surveillance"
[19:52] <pragmaticenigma> murthy: You have been asked to move the conversation to #ubuntu-offtopic... This is not a discussion channel. You need to stop and make sure you are following community guidelines as well as the room topic.
[19:53] <murthy> pragmaticenigma: ok
[19:59] <qwebirc10775> hello. ive got some Q please: installed ubuntu yesterday with the manualfullencryption method by https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManualFullSystemEncryption after that the system was working and live, updated and stuff. next day somehow GRUB was broken. Tried boot=repair from a liveusb but it didnt worked out. after i tried chroot mehtod from live usb, like this https://gist.github.com/samuelcolvin/43c5ed2807e7db004b1058d0c9bfb
[19:59] <qwebirc10775> All prompted feedback was fine and the errors have been like expected. So, because a second attemp of everything did not worked out aswell, I freshly installed ubuntu today again with manualfullencryption. I got multiple Qs:
[20:00] <qwebirc10775> 1. The Manual encryption process got some package that gets installed which is sayed so to repair a corrupted bootloader after every system update, this is why after updates this little tool needs some extra time bevor you start the PC. I think this was my issue whz grub was corrupted, so, I am asking myself how – as a stupid end user – I can determ if I can safely shut down. For this, I need to know if the tool is finished.
[20:00] <qwebirc10775> 2. I am scared this will happen again. Some system update crashing GRUB. Boot repair and chroot manual repair does not work with LUKS/LVM/EFI Combination that easy. So, how should I repair my GRUB the next time this happens? Is there maybe some smart method to do so, or should I do some backups of EPS or something like that? >> I am new to linux, so please keep that in mind.
[20:01] <qwebirc10775> cop/paste issue. 1. The Manual encryption process got some package that gets installed which is sayed so to repair a corrupted bootloader after every system update, this is why after updates this little tool needs some extra time bevor you start the PC. I think this was my issue whz grub was corrupted, so, I am asking myself how – as a stupid end user – I can determ if I can safely shut down. For this, I need to know if the 
[20:02] <qwebirc10775>  the tool. But I dont even know the name. All I remember is some weird dropbox link which downloaded the package. Anybody got an Idea what I am talking about and knows how I can get some info about this thing?
[20:03] <tomreyn> qwebirc10775: i'm still reading what you wrote, but the link https://gist.github.com/samuelcolvin/43c5ed2807e7db004b1058d0c9bfb returns a 404
[20:04] <qwebirc10775> https://gist.github.com/samuelcolvin/43c5ed2807e7db004b1058d0c9bfb068
[20:05] <qwebirc10775> actually tehre even was an updated instruction updated for EFI whith one line more at the end, after grub-update asking something like check grub again and write efi blocks. but it wasnt working
[20:11] <tomreyn> qwebirc10775: i don't seem to know the utility / software you are referring to. i use full disk encryption on multiple systems including servers on a regular basis, and would know how to recover from failures. you may have a misconception about how full the boot loader and full disk encryption interact - in a standard setup as created by the ubuntu installer they have very little to do with one another, it is the initrd (not grub, the boot
[20:11] <tomreyn> loader) which takes care of getting the crypto container prepared / ready.
[20:14] <qwebirc10775> @tomreyn: you ever encrypted like with the first link I provided, so that /boot sits within the encrpted partition? Because I wonder, you say you know how to recover from such event (grub starting bash), how, if boot=repair and chroot are not able to fix the issue?
[20:14] <tomreyn> qwebirc10775: https://gist.github.com/samuelcolvin/43c5ed2807e7db004b1058d0c9bfb068 looks about right to me (maybe add "mount --bind /dev/pts /media/linux/dev/pts" after the other "mount --bind"'s)
[20:16] <RDaneel01ivaw> hi everyone, I'm having a new issue that just started on it's own this morning. I've had chromium installed forever, but just today the mouse pointer has changed ONLY on chromium so it's not the same as all other apps. It's some weird black pointer. Any ideas on how to get this pointer cursor to be like the rest of the entire OS? I tried the usr/share/icons edit and that did not help.
[20:18] <tomreyn> qwebirc10775: oh, i didn't realize that https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManualFullSystemEncryption is about encrypting /boot, too. i don't usually do this, since this can easily break whenever you install some update.
[20:19] <tomreyn> qwebirc10775: i think blackflow has experience with this configuration (FDE including /boot)
[20:19] <qwebirc10775> @tomreyn precisly :P and because of this, the manual lets you install some package that is some tool fixing this after every update. and about this I am concerned. You know how to get info about this? Like reading out once again what this package is?
[20:24] <tomreyn> qwebirc10775: i suspect this package must be mentioned in these configuration instructions?
[20:26] <qwebirc10775> @tomreyn more or less. the manual asks you to shell load this // sudo wget --no-verbose --output-document=/usr/local/sbin/encryptinstallation https://www.dropbox.com/s/dmqnzqs1bbp6dm9/encryptinstallation?dl=1
[20:26] <qwebirc10775> and within this package, after the ubuntu setup is done and grub failed to install, this package downloading another package by some dropbox link and this one loads many modules.
[20:32] <tomreyn> qwebirc10775: so you download and run scripts from some dropbox repository there. i don't know who manages this dropboy repository and whether i should trust them. a good reason for me not to use this script unless i'd reviewed it myself (which, at this point, i have not). this approach of FDE including /boot is surely for advanced users, and i'm not personally familiar with it, so can't help you there.
[20:35] <qwebirc10775> @tomreyn I am with you. for me as a newbie to linux who is coming from windows it is fucked up that an encrypted install is so vulnerable and so complicated. and that services like dropbox are more or less officalz reffered to. so, about the first script, I was able to find it! and by this, I now found the other one. Look at this please>
[20:35] <tomreyn> qwebirc10775: you may appreciate that a new cryptsetup version is going to be coming soon, though, which should make the boot process with FDE much more flexible and, i hope, will alos result in better out-of-the-box support of encrypted /boot. in the men time you can use resort to other methods to make it less likely that you will boot a system which has been comrpomised due to modifications of /boot
[20:36] <qwebirc10775> within the first dropbox Link I provided you, you will find just a simple script even somebody who is not coding, like me, can understand easily. does not look like it has bad backdoors, it just does some simple jobs.
[20:36] <qwebirc10775> but, more interessting,look at this one here>
[20:36] <qwebirc10775> https://www.dropbox.com/s/npoazngcj3khcvf/refreshgrub?dl=1
[20:36] <qwebirc10775> download it and see throw it, I am doing right now
[20:36] <tomreyn> qwebirc10775: please mind your language. you seem to have missed the fact that this guide you followed points out that this is not a supported installaiton method.
[20:37] <tomreyn> it's also part of the community guides, not official documentation.
[20:38] <qwebirc10775> well... ubuntu has no supported installation method at all if you want to go fully encrypted, which is the even worser fact.
[20:39] <pragmaticenigma> qwebirc10775: The assumption is, that if your seeking full system encryption, you know what you are doing.
[20:39] <tomreyn> qwebirc10775: that's not really worse than what other OS's do IMO.
[20:40] <qwebirc10775> pragmaticenigma has nothing to do with the unconvinience you need to go throw. interrupting installation processes and some workarounds. that is not clean at all.
[20:41] <tomreyn> qwebirc10775: "not supported"
[20:42] <pragmaticenigma> A distros main purpose is to handle as many usage cases as possible for the greater community. At this time, the encryption methods provided hit the majority of user needs. What you're seeking goes above and beyond, and with that as tomreyn stated, moves you beyond the scope of this support channel.
[20:42] <qwebirc10775> @tomreyn whatever. I see that the comparing&competition already begins. .
[20:43] <maxcell_> Hi, i'm on 18.04 Budgie and my system completly froze up. Mouse, Keyboard, Screen, everything frozes but not the sound (i use external dac). And passing throught this for a long time what can be wrong with my PC? How can i know?
[20:43] <tomreyn> qwebirc10775: you can discuss topics beyond what's supported in #ubuntu-discuss or in #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:43] <qwebirc10775> @pragmaticengima please stop arguing. its laughable that a distri, or an entire project like unix, is still at this point after 50? years. not even a working GUI full encrypted installation process with working update capability. well. I know some other shitty OS which does this quite nicely
[20:44] <maxcell_> Thats not the first time my system freezes and i don't know why
[20:44] <pragmaticenigma> !ohmy | qwebirc10775
[20:44] <pragmaticenigma> !ot | qwebirc10775
[20:44] <qwebirc10775> I never started this >P I still wanted to stick with the grubrefresher script.
[20:46] <pragmaticenigma> maxcell_: What are you doing prior to the system freezing? Have you installed any software or drivers not provided through Ubuntu's primary software channels?
[20:46] <maxcell_> No, i install ubuntu yesterday, install nvidia from ubuntu drivers management, and open up Dota 2.
[20:46] <maxcell_> very clean install
[20:47] <maxcell_> minimal install even
[20:47] <tomreyn> maxcell_: you say this is not the first time your system freezes up fully, what were you runni9ng on it when it previously froze? also ubuntu 18.04 or some other version or other OS?
[20:47] <maxcell_> Other, it frozes with Fedora, Ubuntu, Debian testing, Manjaro, everything
[20:48] <maxcell_> but not Windows (if you believe)
[20:49] <tomreyn> maxcell_: so you were running windows on it for a while and it did not freeze then but only when you were running various linux distributions, right?
[20:50] <pragmaticenigma> !pm | qwebirc10775
[20:50] <pragmaticenigma> qwebirc10775: I do not accept private messages
[20:51] <maxcell_> tomreyn: yes, didn't freeze on windows
[20:51] <tomreyn> maxcell_: if so, this may suggest that your mainboard firmware treats Linux differently than it treat windows. firmware updates (bios updates) can sometimes help there, and are a good thing to try as a first step.
[20:51] <maxcell_> i'm on ubuntu budgie right now, after reboot from the freeze
[20:52] <maxcell_> tomreyn: i have the newest bios update on my PC
[20:52] <maxcell_> tomreyn: that's not very new tho, its an asus h61m-a/br
[20:52] <maxcell_> old hardware
[20:52] <tomreyn> maxcell_: there's also this article which suggests a workaround you could try http://iam.tj/prototype/enhancements/Windows-acpi_osi.html
[20:53] <tomreyn> maxcell_: can you post the web address returned by: dmesg | pastebinit
[20:53] <tomreyn> maxcell_: this command uploads your kernel log to paste.ubuntu.com
[20:53] <maxcell_> yes, i'm reading the website you send me during this
[20:54] <maxcell_> ok right away
[20:54] <maxcell_> tomreyn: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/j4r3v7xXW6/
[20:56] <qwebirc10775> would be somebody still up for some Q about the manualfullencrypted with /boot and EFI talk? There are stil unanswered Q: 1. How to prevent grub from getting corrupted, like how to make sure the grubrefresher is working properly, and how to prevent grubrefresher from getting interrupted by a shutdown? 2. How to prepare for a grub corruption futurewise? Boot-repair to chroot the luks and grub-install isnt working, so is there anz
[20:58] <qwebirc10775> wow, because of the terminology I feel like a rocket scientist talking to professional collegs. well, I just an enhanced GUI noob and can only copy paste and brain some stuff... way to much for just an encrypted ubuntu ... :(
[20:59] <pragmaticenigma> qwebirc10775: You were told, your situation isn't supported here and it is offtopic... please go to #ubuntu-offtopic or find a relavent channel for your question
[21:00] <tomreyn> maxcell_: thanks, give me some minutes to look over it
[21:01] <maxcell_> tomreyn: sure
[21:02] <maxcell_> tomreyn: hey, my "strings /sys/firmware/acpi/tables/DSDT |grep -i windows | sort" only return: Windows 2001,2006 and 2009
[21:02] <maxcell_> tomreyn: should i put 2009 on acpi_os= ?
[21:02] <maxcell_> i use windows 10
[21:02] <maxcell_> on dualboot
[21:04] <maxcell_> tomreyn: i'm going to reboot brb
[21:06] <maxcell_> tomreyn: hi
[21:07] <maxcell_> tomreyn: was some ACPI errors before when booting, its gone, i don't know if it will solve all the freezes but thank you for that
[21:10] <tomreyn> maxcell_: great, maybe it'll help - i hope it does. this is the first time i see a mainboard vendor produce / maintain different models of their products for a single country, including separate firmware.
[21:11] <tomreyn> https://www.asus.com/br/Motherboards/H61MABR/HelpDesk_BIOS/ vs https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/H61MK/HelpDesk_BIOS/
[21:11] <tomreyn> brazil vs. rest-of-the-world (and this is not about soccer)
[21:11] <maxcell_> lol
[21:11] <maxcell_> i thought was just the name
[21:12] <tomreyn> no, there's no english language variant of the BR page.
[21:12] <maxcell_> i'm afraid to update the bios with the h61m-k firmware
[21:13] <maxcell_> even tho its more recent
[21:14] <tomreyn> i suspect H61MABR firmware 0503 (2014/08/22) is based on H61MK 0801 (2014/08/15), with localization and some (unknown) modifications applied. that's what a quick diff --text suggests, anyways.
[21:15] <maxcell_> yeah
[21:18] <tomreyn> maxcell_: my guess is the freezes are nvidia (driver) related, these XID 13 "Graphics Exception" aren't good.
[21:18] <tomreyn> line 841 of your dmesg and later
[21:20] <tomreyn> if you still have those now, look into replacing the driver ( https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa *may* help )
[21:21] <maxcell_> tomreyn: hmm
[21:22] <maxcell_> tomreyn: i will try 396
[21:23] <tomreyn> the ppa above got a newer version / build of 390 (.87 whereas you now have .48)
[21:23] <tomreyn> but i'm not good at nvidia trouble shooting and i try to prevent it, too.
[21:25] <ASMJunkie> How can i am having some troubles with nvidia drivers. Nvidia SMI says the drivers are not loaded. I have them installed, they are just not being used. how can i fix this
[21:28] <hellhound> caca pichi poto
[21:28] <maxcell_> tomreyn: whats the name of that program that controlls the drivers by GUI on ubuntu?
[21:29] <maxcell_> tomreyn: finally found it
[21:29] <maxcell_> lol
[21:29] <tomreyn> maxcell_: ubuntu-drivers (CLI) / software-properties-gtk --open-tab=4 (GUI)
[21:30] <maxcell_> yeah i found it on the welcome screen lol
[21:32] <kermyt> an update today on my 18.04 seems to have broken my X.org I can now onlu log in with wayland
[21:33] <kermyt> when I try to login with anything other than wayland It simply returns to the login screen with no visible errors
[21:34] <kermyt> I can't find anything obvious in /var/log/X.org.0.log
[21:40] <kermyt> ok the error is permission denied to /dev/fb0
[21:41] <kermyt> not certain how to resolve this though
[21:41] <tomreyn> that's not usually a critical error. see also ~/.local/share/xorg/Xorg.*.log*
[21:42] <kermyt> ok
[21:44] <lavinho> good night
[21:44] <lavinho> my computer mymaga class max
[21:44] <lavinho> no sound no wifi
[21:44] <lavinho> how to resolve it
[21:44] <lavinho> ?
[21:48] <tomreyn> !sound | lavinho
[21:48] <kermyt> [  1684.621] (EE) Failed to load module "nvidia" (module does not exist, 0)
[21:49] <kermyt> ubuntu's inability to play nice with Nvidia is starting to get under my skin
[21:51] <tomreyn> kermyt: it's more nvidia's inability to play nice with linux
[21:51] <tomreyn> consider acquiring hardware by a vendor which support open source next time.
[21:52] <kermyt> none of my other distros break things as regularly as ubuntu reguardig nvidia
[21:52] <kermyt> I lay part of the blame on the specter fiasco
[21:52] <kermyt> that was when this all started in ernest
[21:53] <mauz555> how to build GCC without STDLIBC ?
[21:53] <nacc_> mauz555: presumably you want a gcc channel
[21:53] <nacc_> kermyt: are you using the ubuntu-packaged drivers?
[21:54] <kermyt> not anymore. when this started I moved to a PPA that has bleeding edge drivers
[21:54] <kermyt> should I try to fall back?
[21:55] <kermyt> I have been fighting with this laptop's nvidia drivers off and on for over a year now
[21:56] <nacc_> kermyt: well, using a PPA is it's own issue
[21:56] <kermyt> it's almost like kernel updates is not rebuilding the modules
[21:56] <nacc_> kermyt: and it's rather sad to blame ubuntu for a ppa's issue
[21:56] <nacc_> kermyt: might not be
[21:56] <kermyt> I was forced to move to the PPA for a reason
[21:57] <kermyt> interesting
[21:57] <nacc_> kermyt: you should see dkms logs if it is, i think
[21:57] <nacc_> dunno tbh; i've never used the nvidia drivers
[21:58] <kermyt> dkms... ok
[22:02] <kermyt> ahhh ubuntu has disabled my PPA
[22:03] <nacc_> kermyt: did you recently upgrade?
[22:03] <kermyt> yes
[22:03] <nacc_> kermyt: most upgrade paths disable PPAs, yes
[22:03] <kermyt> the upgrade initially fixed several issues
[22:03] <nacc_> as PPAs don't necessarily support the new releases
[22:04] <kermyt> but today an update broke my non wayland GUI
[22:04] <nacc_> kermyt: does it happen with a test user too?
[22:04] <kermyt> hmm I don't know interesting question
[22:05] <nacc_> kermyt: always useful to have an unused user around for stuff like that
[22:05] <kermyt> I'm making one now eys
[22:05] <kermyt> yes*
[22:10] <black_mamba> clear
[22:21] <Saabstory88> In 18.04, what is the correct way to launch a media player application on login?
[22:26] <tomreyn> Saabstory88: a .destop starter file with X-GNOME-Autostart-enabled=true stored in ~/.local/share/applications/
[22:36] <Saabstory88> tomreyn: and it will wait for the desktop to load?
[22:37] <Saabstory88> and do you mean .destop, or .desktop?
[22:38] <xamithan> .desktop of course
[22:39] <tomreyn> Saabstory88: it's a file whose name ends in ".desktop", right
[22:40] <Saabstory88> yes
[22:40] <Saabstory88> I had tried to use the startup applications gui, but it failed to launch
[22:40] <tomreyn> Saabstory88: those will be handled by gnome shell or any other desktop which complies with freedesktop.org standards.
[22:41] <tomreyn> https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Specifications/desktop-entry-spec/
[22:42] <Saabstory88> https://pastebin.com/PFFJkDmV
[22:44] <tomreyn> you may need to: xdg-desktop-icon install /home/REDACTED/.local/share/applications/mpv_headless.desktop
[22:46] <Saabstory88> okay. when accessing it through the application menu, it works perfectly
[23:18] <qwebirc2083> Hello.
[23:18] <qwebirc2083> I'm looking for some urgent help, please.
[23:18] <qwebirc2083> https://askubuntu.com/questions/1075393/problems-with-recovering-data-using-ecryptfs-from-live-disk
[23:18] <qwebirc2083> If https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2401197&p=13800937#post13800937
[23:19] <qwebirc2083> If anyone has faced similar issues, or is well versed with Linux permissions and ecryptfs, please reach out!
[23:21] <qwebirc2083> I'm really panicking here.
[23:22] <Saabstory88> tomreyn, answer was to place in~/.config/autostart, adding the right flag. now it works, thanks!
[23:34] <postmodern> where would i get support for nmcli GSM modem issues?
[23:46] <ASMJunkie> Having some trouble with nvidia drivers not being loaded. Is anyone able to spend ~ 1-2 hours and help me figure this out?
[23:47] <ASMJunkie> (Hopefully less)