[05:14] <Babloyi> what's the task manager equivalent called? I want to add it to the panel, but none of them seem to be it
[05:15] <Babloyi> never mind, found it
[05:15] <Unit193> xfce4-taskmanager?
[05:16] <Babloyi> yeah, it was just called task manager
[05:16] <Babloyi> it just wasn't in the list of "Add to Panel" items
[05:17] <Babloyi> and now trying to launch firefox after it closed for an update gives me a segfault :O
[05:18] <Babloyi> gonna try restarting
[05:18] <Unit193> Don't forget the eyes plugin!  One of the most important.
[05:18] <Babloyi> what do they do?
[05:18] <Babloyi> oh, joke :P
[05:18] <Unit193> ...Watch your mouse.
[05:24] <Babloyi> aaand firefox is still causing segfaults
[05:24] <Babloyi> ugh
[05:28] <Babloyi> reinstalled and it works now. Oh well
[05:48] <Babloyi> crackling when I open discord in the browser fixed!
[05:48] <Babloyi> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/PulseAudio/Troubleshooting#Glitches.2C_skips_or_crackling
[07:03] <hans_> why does Xubuntu seemingly use lightdm over lxdm?
[07:05] <hans_> (some years ago back in debian 8 i compared lxdm vs lightdm, 34MB ram more than lxdm on amd64..)
[07:05] <hans_> (so despite the name `light`dm, lightdm is heavier than lxdm last time i checked)
[07:06] <hans_> - and lxdm is made specifically for xfce
[07:06] <Unit193> LXDE, actually.
[07:06] <hans_> oh, derp
[07:06] <hans_> ok guess that explains it
[07:07] <Unit193> In theory you can use LXDM with Xfce, but it's not as configurable nor polished.
[07:08] <hans_> speaking of configurable, how do i configure autologin on xubuntu?
[07:11] <hans_> nvm, slight variation of this worked :)  https://askubuntu.com/a/905298/462413
[07:13] <Unit193> Was gonna say, think it's something to do with adding yourself to a group and setting a config. :P
[07:13] <hans_> guess there's more than 1 way, i practically just copypasted from that answer into this file which i made up, /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/autologin.conf
[07:14] <hans_> (didn't add anyone to any group)
[07:14] <pmjdebruijn> btw, on a sidenote, isn't lxde moving to Qt? which means GTK LXDM will probably go unmaintained soon enough
[07:15] <hans_> correct-ish, the gtk codebase will still be around under the old name, but the developers will move to a Qt-codebase and call it `lxqt`
[07:15] <hans_> iirc
[07:17] <hans_> qt will be a bit heavier than the gtk version tho...     and imo, the only thing they got going for them is "lxde is even lighter than xfce" - if that cease to be the case with lxqt then.. idk, i won't use it
[07:20] <pmjdebruijn> my point being if focus shifts, nobody will care about the old lxdm codebase, most likely
[07:21] <hans_> true. there's just a few lxde core devs to begin with, and they're all hyped about lxqt, so lxde will probably be abandoned yeah
[07:22] <pmjdebruijn> so it's not a good horse to bet on anymore :)
[07:29] <hans_> > the PIXELdesktop environment of Raspbian (the official Raspberry Pi operating system) is a highly modified version of LXDE.
[07:29] <hans_> maybe that thing will live on tho
[07:30] <Unit193> pmjdebruijn: I thought LXDM specifically was already unmaintained.
[07:34] <pmjdebruijn> Unit193: quite possible :)
[07:35] <pmjdebruijn> hans_: do note that they are a bit more desparate for low resource consumption :)
[07:35] <pmjdebruijn> @rpi
[07:35] <hans_> yup
[07:35] <Unit193> pmjdebruijn: https://git.lxde.org/gitweb/?p=lxde/lxdm.git;a=shortlog yeah that's not looking so hot.
[07:36] <hans_> single commit for 2018
[07:50] <hans_> weird, appears Lubuntu 18.04 is still lxde based
[07:52] <hans_> oh, Lubuntu is scheduled to switch in 18.10
[07:57] <hans_> (guess they didn't want so much relatively new & untested code in a LTS?)
[07:59] <hans_> hmm, weird, "find in this folder" button does nothing
[08:00] <hans_> i'm guessing this button is supposed to do something? https://i.imgur.com/5DPYTeB.png
[08:01] <Babloyi> isn't that the same as just typing the letters with the folder open? :D
[08:03] <hans_> dpm
[08:03] <hans_> don't think so