[19:02] <Eickmeyer> #startmeeting
[19:02] <meetingology> Meeting started Sat Sep 15 19:02:07 2018 UTC.  The chair is Eickmeyer. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[19:02] <Eickmeyer> #chair captain-tux eylul OvenWerks
[19:02] <meetingology> Current chairs: Eickmeyer OvenWerks captain-tux eylul
[19:02] <Eickmeyer> Anyone else here?
[19:02] <eylul> :)
[19:02] <Eickmeyer> Hey!
[19:03] <eylul> hey
[19:03] <tedge> hi
[19:03] <Eickmeyer> Hi tedge!
[19:03] <Eickmeyer> Joining for our devel meeting today?
[19:04] <tedge> yup, if that's ok
[19:04] <eylul> new people!
[19:04] <Eickmeyer> Yeah, that's cool. So far just eylul and myself, and the discussion today is on the entries for the wallpaper for 18.10.
[19:04] <Eickmeyer> Could probably use the third vote if you're up for it.
[19:05] <Eickmeyer> Anyhow, lets get this ball rolling.
[19:05] <eylul> so how will we do this?
[19:05] <Eickmeyer> #topic Cosmic Cuttlefish Wallpapers
[19:05] <tedge> sure, how will they be selected? yes/no for each, choose favorites, etc.?
[19:06] <eylul> tedge beat me to the question :D
[19:06] <Eickmeyer> I'm thinking we'll go through each one, discuss, and then take a vote. We'll narrow it down to the top 20 and then let the public vote on the rest.
[19:06] <Eickmeyer> Entries are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Artwork/CosmicWallpaperEntries
[19:07] <Eickmeyer> The bottom two are disqualified for using the incorrect typeface.
[19:07] <Eickmeyer> I noticed the logo was wrong on a few others, but we'll cross that bridge when we get there.
[19:08] <Eickmeyer> So, we'll get started.
[19:08] <Eickmeyer> #subtopic 1. First Rays
[19:08] <Eickmeyer> I actually like this one. It's a decent shot with plenty of bokeh and the subject matter of the flower isn't bad.
[19:09] <eylul> I should just say that, most of my votes will be less about independent merits of the works.. and more on if I think they would work as a wallpaper or not.
[19:09] <eylul> :)
[19:09] <Eickmeyer> Sounds good.
[19:09] <Eickmeyer> Do you think this one works as a wallpaper, eylul?
[19:09] <eylul> I like this. it is not busy, which is a good thing on a background image.
[19:09] <Eickmeyer> Agreed.
[19:09] <Eickmeyer> Shall we vote?
[19:10] <eylul> :)
[19:10] <Eickmeyer> tedge_, captain-tux, anything to add?
[19:10] <eylul> we lost tedge I believe.
[19:11] <Eickmeyer> Yeah, probably. Happens when people get tails.
[19:11] <tedge_> yup, lost connection
[19:11] <tedge_> tedge -> tedge_
[19:11] <Eickmeyer> Well, let's go ahead and vote.
[19:11] <Eickmeyer> #vote 1. First Rays
[19:11] <meetingology> Please vote on: 1. First Rays
[19:11] <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1/-1/+0 #channelname)
[19:11] <Eickmeyer> +1
[19:11] <meetingology> +1 received from Eickmeyer
[19:11] <eylul> +1
[19:11] <meetingology> +1 received from eylul
[19:12] <tedge_> +1
[19:12] <meetingology> +1 received from tedge_
[19:12] <Eickmeyer> #endvote
[19:12] <meetingology> Voting ended on: 1. First Rays
[19:12] <meetingology> Votes for:3 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0
[19:12] <meetingology> Motion carried
[19:12] <Eickmeyer> #subtopic 2. Mountain of Caves
[19:13] <Eickmeyer> I'm not flipped with this one. Seems to draw too mutch attention to itself and while the subject matter is interesting, the picture itself isn't.
[19:13] <Eickmeyer> Thoughts anyone?
[19:14] <eylul> (I did send you PM by the way) but I am neutral on this one
[19:14] <eylul> I want to see how many we get, left and keep this or remove this depending. 
[19:14] <tedge_> +0
[19:14] <captain-tux> Omg, my IRC didn't update, sorry.. gotte catch up real quick..
[19:16] <tedge_> ... testing connection ...
[19:16] <eylul> captain-tux
[19:16] <captain-tux> Yes
[19:16] <eylul> we are only at the second image
[19:17] <eylul> so maybe you can add your thoughts in :)
[19:17] <Eickmeyer> tedge_: We had a brief discussion, and I hate to do this, but we don't really know who you are and we're kinda trying to keep this voting to the council, which consists of myself, eylul, OvenWerks, captain-tux, and one other that isn't here. 
[19:18] <Eickmeyer> tedge_: We had set the rules at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Artwork/UserShowcase and we would be remiss if we didn't abide by them.
[19:18] <captain-tux> Sure, thanks. It's a bit busy, but as a wallpeper, I'd include it.
[19:18] <Eickmeyer> Well, lets go ahead and vote on it.
[19:18] <Eickmeyer> #vote 2. Mountain of Caves
[19:18] <meetingology> Please vote on: 2. Mountain of Caves
[19:18] <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1/-1/+0 #channelname)
[19:18] <Eickmeyer> -1
[19:18] <meetingology> -1 received from Eickmeyer
[19:19] <eylul> +0
[19:19] <meetingology> +0 received from eylul
[19:19] <Eickmeyer> captain-tux: ?
[19:20] <captain-tux> +1
[19:20] <meetingology> +1 received from captain-tux
[19:20] <Eickmeyer> #endvote
[19:20] <meetingology> Voting ended on: 2. Mountain of Caves
[19:20] <meetingology> Votes for:1 Votes against:1 Abstentions:1
[19:20] <meetingology> Deadlock, casting vote may be used
[19:20] <Eickmeyer> Okay, moving on to the third.
[19:20] <Eickmeyer> #subtopic Ubuntu Studio - Morning Dew
[19:21] <Eickmeyer> I like this, though it's busy, and it's a creative use of the COF.
[19:22] <eylul> I like that it is uniform, and it is different than other wallpapers we had before :) 
[19:22] <Eickmeyer> Yeah.
[19:22] <Eickmeyer> captain-tux: Any thoughts?
[19:23] <captain-tux> I like it as well.
[19:23] <Eickmeyer> cool.
[19:23] <Eickmeyer> #vote 3. Ubuntu Studio - Morning Dew
[19:23] <meetingology> Please vote on: 3. Ubuntu Studio - Morning Dew
[19:23] <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1/-1/+0 #channelname)
[19:23] <Eickmeyer> +1
[19:23] <meetingology> +1 received from Eickmeyer
[19:23] <captain-tux> +1
[19:23] <eylul> +1
[19:23] <meetingology> +1 received from captain-tux
[19:23] <meetingology> +1 received from eylul
[19:23] <Eickmeyer> #endvote
[19:23] <meetingology> Voting ended on: 3. Ubuntu Studio - Morning Dew
[19:23] <meetingology> Votes for:3 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0
[19:23] <meetingology> Motion carried
[19:23] <Eickmeyer> #subtopic 4. Love Ubuntu Studio
[19:24] <eylul> it is a wallpaper
[19:24] <Eickmeyer> It's... cute.
[19:24] <eylul> it kind of reads medical to me... :) 
[19:24] <eylul> but I am somewhere between a neutral and positive for this one. :)
[19:24] <Eickmeyer> Yeah, hopefully not foretelling of flatlining. ;)
[19:25] <captain-tux> Is thaf fine with the logo-thingy?
[19:25] <Eickmeyer> captain-tux: You mean the heart with the COF inside?
[19:25] <captain-tux> Yep
[19:26] <captain-tux> Don't know how Canonical feels about that
[19:26] <Eickmeyer> I don't see why not. I didn't specify that we had to use the circled COF this time, so I'm letting it slide.
[19:26] <captain-tux> Ah, okay
[19:26] <Eickmeyer> #vote 4. Loe Ubuntu Studio
[19:26] <meetingology> Please vote on: 4. Loe Ubuntu Studio
[19:26] <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1/-1/+0 #channelname)
[19:26] <Eickmeyer> +1
[19:26] <meetingology> +1 received from Eickmeyer
[19:26] <captain-tux> +1
[19:26] <meetingology> +1 received from captain-tux
[19:27] <eylul> +0
[19:27] <meetingology> +0 received from eylul
[19:27] <Eickmeyer> #endvote
[19:27] <meetingology> Voting ended on: 4. Loe Ubuntu Studio
[19:27] <meetingology> Votes for:2 Votes against:0 Abstentions:1
[19:27] <meetingology> Motion carried
[19:27] <Eickmeyer> #subtopic 5. Journey
[19:27] <Eickmeyer> This one is unique.
[19:28] <eylul> how so?
[19:28] <Eickmeyer> I'm not flipped by it, and you can tell it's definintely tonemapped HDR, but I think I would've tried to put more blue into the sky.
[19:28] <Eickmeyer> Maybe unique was the wrong word.
[19:28] <eylul> ah
[19:29] <eylul> I really really like the composition and it would make a good wallpaper. but there is some very visible issues with the contrast. 
[19:29] <Eickmeyer> Yeah.
[19:29] <Eickmeyer> captain-tux: Thoughts?
[19:30] <captain-tux> Same pretty much, but I'd wave it through.
[19:30] <Eickmeyer> Okay.
[19:30] <eylul> (not the contrast, but.. the wavelet based sharpening)
[19:30] <Eickmeyer> eylul: Yeah, I'm not a fan of that, personally.
[19:30] <Eickmeyer> #vote 5. Journey
[19:30] <meetingology> Please vote on: 5. Journey
[19:30] <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1/-1/+0 #channelname)
[19:30] <Eickmeyer> +0
[19:30] <meetingology> +0 received from Eickmeyer
[19:30] <eylul> -1
[19:30] <meetingology> -1 received from eylul
[19:30] <captain-tux> +1
[19:30] <meetingology> +1 received from captain-tux
[19:31] <Eickmeyer> #endvote
[19:31] <meetingology> Voting ended on: 5. Journey
[19:31] <meetingology> Votes for:1 Votes against:1 Abstentions:1
[19:31] <meetingology> Deadlock, casting vote may be used
[19:31] <Eickmeyer> #subtopic 6. United We Grow
[19:31] <Eickmeyer> Another flower macro, this one is quite a bit lighter.
[19:31] <eylul> good image, very clear, i like that the main subject is on right side (most people will have their icons on left, so that's a good thing on wallpaper)
[19:32] <Eickmeyer> Would work as a wallpaper, but I'm not sure how many flowers we should include.
[19:32] <Eickmeyer> captain-tux: ?
[19:33] <captain-tux> Is the sharpness a little off or am I seeing weird things? (on mobile atm)
[19:33] <eylul> I think it is  a very VERY shallow depth of field
[19:33] <Eickmeyer> It's a shallow depth of field, definitely. 
[19:33] <eylul> or possibly minor editing on that right side. :)
[19:33] <captain-tux> That's what meant, sorry. The focus is a bit weird to me, but it's fine.
[19:34] <Eickmeyer> Likely a 50mm lens with a 1.8 aperature, but I'm only speculating.
[19:34] <Eickmeyer> Anyhow...
[19:34] <Eickmeyer> #vote 6. United We Grow
[19:34] <meetingology> Please vote on: 6. United We Grow
[19:34] <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1/-1/+0 #channelname)
[19:34] <eylul> that might be wider aperture or a macro filter on top but that's offtopic. ;D
[19:34] <eylul> +1
[19:34] <meetingology> +1 received from eylul
[19:34] <Eickmeyer> +1
[19:34] <meetingology> +1 received from Eickmeyer
[19:34] <captain-tux> +@
[19:34] <captain-tux> +1
[19:34] <meetingology> +1 received from captain-tux
[19:35] <Eickmeyer> #endvote
[19:35] <meetingology> Voting ended on: 6. United We Grow
[19:35] <meetingology> Votes for:3 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0
[19:35] <meetingology> Motion carried
[19:35] <captain-tux> Close... :D
[19:35] <Eickmeyer> LOL
[19:35] <Eickmeyer> #subtopic 7. Orange
[19:35] <Eickmeyer> This is your classic "desaturate everything but the subject matter", but it's inconsistent. The stems on the background orange flowers were desaturated.
[19:36] <eylul> the biggest issue for me is the edges around the flowers
[19:36] <eylul> that reads as an error, rather than artistic choice.
[19:36] <Eickmeyer> Yeah. I'm not a big fan of this one.
[19:37] <eylul> again unfortunate because I like the idea of having something of this sort in the mix.
[19:37] <Eickmeyer> Yeah.
[19:37] <captain-tux> I actually like the saturation contrast, but othrr than that, not a huve fan, personally.
[19:38] <Eickmeyer> #vote 7. Orange
[19:38] <meetingology> Please vote on: 7. Orange
[19:38] <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1/-1/+0 #channelname)
[19:38] <Eickmeyer> -1
[19:38] <meetingology> -1 received from Eickmeyer
[19:38] <eylul> -1
[19:38] <meetingology> -1 received from eylul
[19:38] <captain-tux> Omg, please excuse my writing..
[19:38] <captain-tux> -1
[19:38] <meetingology> -1 received from captain-tux
[19:38] <Eickmeyer> #endvote
[19:38] <meetingology> Voting ended on: 7. Orange
[19:38] <meetingology> Votes for:0 Votes against:3 Abstentions:0
[19:38] <meetingology> Motion denied
[19:38] <Eickmeyer> #subtopic 8. Birth
[19:38] <eylul> (I like how the poor meetingology is trying to make sense of our ranking votes ;) )
[19:38] <Eickmeyer> I rather like this one, but it's another "flower macro".
[19:38] <eylul> I assume we will do a second pass
[19:39] <eylul> to finalize, so I am in favor of just going with this one for now
[19:39] <eylul> and decide if we end up with too many or uneven selections, if that makes sense?
[19:39] <Eickmeyer> Okay. Sounds reasonable, but I'll have to go back through the logs to see the scores on some of them to eliminate.
[19:40] <eylul> by the way we will need to remember to add captain-tux's vote on the first one
[19:40] <Eickmeyer> Yeah, good point.
[19:41] <eylul> speaking of *pokes captain-tux* thoughts?
[19:41] <Eickmeyer> lol
[19:42] <captain-tux> I feel a little undecided. It's good, but content on the "wrong" side, as eylul mentioned before..
[19:42] <Eickmeyer> A good point.
[19:42] <captain-tux> It's a little empty on the right.
[19:42] <Eickmeyer> #vote 8. Birth
[19:42] <meetingology> Please vote on: 8. Birth
[19:42] <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1/-1/+0 #channelname)
[19:42] <Eickmeyer> +0
[19:42] <meetingology> +0 received from Eickmeyer
[19:42] <captain-tux> Just black
[19:42] <captain-tux> +0
[19:43] <meetingology> +0 received from captain-tux
[19:43] <eylul> +0
[19:43] <meetingology> +0 received from eylul
[19:43] <Eickmeyer> #endvote
[19:43] <meetingology> Voting ended on: 8. Birth
[19:43] <meetingology> Votes for:0 Votes against:0 Abstentions:3
[19:43] <meetingology> Deadlock, casting vote may be used
[19:43] <eylul> just because we have so many flowers
[19:43] <Eickmeyer> Yeah.
[19:43] <captain-tux> That too.
[19:43] <Eickmeyer> #endvote
[19:43] <meetingology> No vote in progress
[19:44] <Eickmeyer> Derp
[19:44] <Eickmeyer> #subtopic 9. Cymbal
[19:44] <captain-tux> (OT) By the way, eylul, sorry if you've already mentioned, but I didn't see your wallpaper (the one with the blue static)?
[19:44] <Eickmeyer> I rather like this one, but I'm biased as I'm a former drummer.
[19:44] <eylul> that one is the default wallpaper captain-tux. :) 
[19:44] <captain-tux> Ah, okay! Cool.
[19:44] <eylul> :))
[19:45] <captain-tux> Yeah, I likd this one too, more instruments. ;)
[19:45] <eylul> this one is easily one of my favorites. its very content relevant to ubuntu-studio. very minimalist and smooth (good for a wallpaper)
[19:45] <eylul> again focus is right side which is good.
[19:45] <Eickmeyer> Yep.
[19:45] <Eickmeyer> #vote 9. Cymbal
[19:45] <meetingology> Please vote on: 9. Cymbal
[19:45] <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1/-1/+0 #channelname)
[19:45] <Eickmeyer> +1
[19:45] <meetingology> +1 received from Eickmeyer
[19:45] <captain-tux> +1
[19:45] <meetingology> +1 received from captain-tux
[19:45] <eylul> +1
[19:45] <meetingology> +1 received from eylul
[19:45] <Eickmeyer> #endvote
[19:45] <meetingology> Voting ended on: 9. Cymbal
[19:45] <meetingology> Votes for:3 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0
[19:45] <meetingology> Motion carried
[19:45] <Eickmeyer> #subtopic 10. Ubuntu Studio - Paper Haptic
[19:46] <Eickmeyer> I'm not a fan of the "Open Creation" tagline. Yes, it fits, but no, not our tagline.
[19:46] <eylul> there is 3 of these.. as these are community wallpapers.. I am tempted to go with it.. unless it is a tagline that belongs to something else..
[19:47] <eylul> mainly because I really like this wallpaper from a compositional standpoint
[19:47] <captain-tux> I'm torn, because I want to value the idea, but am not a fan of the wording, either.
[19:47] <Eickmeyer> Well, the third one uses the wordmark, so I'd be happier with that.
[19:47] <eylul> (and I do think that it is better than the black variant)
[19:48] <eylul> I think out of these 3 I am for the 1st and 3rd. 
[19:48] <Eickmeyer> But, yes, I like this one better than the other two from a compositional standpoint.
[19:48] <captain-tux> You mean the one that says improved?
[19:48] <Eickmeyer> #vote 10. Ubuntu Studio - Paper Haptic
[19:48] <meetingology> Please vote on: 10. Ubuntu Studio - Paper Haptic
[19:48] <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1/-1/+0 #channelname)
[19:48] <Eickmeyer> +0
[19:48] <meetingology> +0 received from Eickmeyer
[19:48] <eylul> +1
[19:48] <meetingology> +1 received from eylul
[19:48] <captain-tux> +0
[19:48] <meetingology> +0 received from captain-tux
[19:48] <Eickmeyer> #endvote
[19:48] <meetingology> Voting ended on: 10. Ubuntu Studio - Paper Haptic
[19:48] <meetingology> Votes for:1 Votes against:0 Abstentions:2
[19:48] <meetingology> Motion carried
[19:48] <Eickmeyer> #subtopic 11. Ubuntu Studio - Mineral Sparks
[19:49] <Eickmeyer> Again with the open creation wording, and if I had to choose between this and 13 I'd go with 13.
[19:49] <eylul> no for this one, simply because we have the ubuntuStudio variant, 2 candidates down
[19:49] <captain-tux> Yes, same.
[19:49] <Eickmeyer> I also have the feeling 13 was a resubmission of this one.
[19:50] <Eickmeyer> #vote 11. Ubuntu Studio - Mineral Sparks
[19:50] <meetingology> Please vote on: 11. Ubuntu Studio - Mineral Sparks
[19:50] <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1/-1/+0 #channelname)
[19:50] <Eickmeyer> -1
[19:50] <meetingology> -1 received from Eickmeyer
[19:50] <eylul> it might also be variants. 
[19:50] <captain-tux> -1
[19:50] <meetingology> -1 received from captain-tux
[19:50] <eylul> -1
[19:50] <meetingology> -1 received from eylul
[19:50] <Eickmeyer> #endvote
[19:50] <meetingology> Voting ended on: 11. Ubuntu Studio - Mineral Sparks
[19:50] <meetingology> Votes for:0 Votes against:3 Abstentions:0
[19:50] <meetingology> Motion denied
[19:50] <Eickmeyer> #subtopic 12. Ubuntu Studio - Blue Pattern
[19:50] <eylul> its a wallpaper
[19:50] <Eickmeyer> This one doesn't scale well, but I like the idea.
[19:51] <captain-tux> It makes my display do weird things.. :P
[19:51] <Eickmeyer> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 
[19:51] <eylul> its a very retro feeling wallpaper. Yeah I am also noticing it. 
[19:51] <Eickmeyer> captain-tux: Same. if I scale it in it looks right, but if I scale it out it looks weird.
[19:51] <captain-tux> Seems dangerous.
[19:52] <Eickmeyer> #vote 12. Ubuntu Studio - Blue Pattern
[19:52] <meetingology> Please vote on: 12. Ubuntu Studio - Blue Pattern
[19:52] <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1/-1/+0 #channelname)
[19:52] <Eickmeyer> -1
[19:52] <meetingology> -1 received from Eickmeyer
[19:52] <eylul> +1
[19:52] <meetingology> +1 received from eylul
[19:52] <captain-tux> -1
[19:52] <meetingology> -1 received from captain-tux
[19:52] <Eickmeyer> #endvote
[19:52] <meetingology> Voting ended on: 12. Ubuntu Studio - Blue Pattern
[19:52] <meetingology> Votes for:1 Votes against:2 Abstentions:0
[19:52] <meetingology> Motion denied
[19:52] <Eickmeyer> #subtopic 13. Ubuntu Studio - Mineral Sparks Improved
[19:52] <Eickmeyer> I think we've discussed this one ad nauseum
[19:52] <eylul> I like the white variant cleaner,  but yeah..
[19:53] <Eickmeyer> #vote 13. Ubuntu Studio - Mineral Sparks Improved
[19:53] <meetingology> Please vote on: 13. Ubuntu Studio - Mineral Sparks Improved
[19:53] <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1/-1/+0 #channelname)
[19:53] <Eickmeyer> +1
[19:53] <meetingology> +1 received from Eickmeyer
[19:53] <captain-tux> +1
[19:53] <meetingology> +1 received from captain-tux
[19:53] <eylul> +1
[19:53] <meetingology> +1 received from eylul
[19:53] <Eickmeyer> #endvote
[19:53] <meetingology> Voting ended on: 13. Ubuntu Studio - Mineral Sparks Improved
[19:53] <meetingology> Votes for:3 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0
[19:53] <meetingology> Motion carried
[19:53] <Eickmeyer> #subtopic 14. Adlfo Rojas
[19:54] <Eickmeyer> I rather like this one. It covers a lot of the "studio" aspect.
[19:55] <eylul> its not my favorite compositionally, but I like the concept
[19:55] <captain-tux> It's not my personal favourite, but I can see how somebody would use it.
[19:55] <Eickmeyer> #vote 14. Adolfo Rojas
[19:55] <meetingology> Please vote on: 14. Adolfo Rojas
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[19:55] <Eickmeyer> +1
[19:55] <meetingology> +1 received from Eickmeyer
[19:55] <eylul> +1
[19:55] <meetingology> +1 received from eylul
[19:55] <captain-tux> +1
[19:55] <meetingology> +1 received from captain-tux
[19:55] <Eickmeyer> #endvote
[19:55] <meetingology> Voting ended on: 14. Adolfo Rojas
[19:55] <meetingology> Votes for:3 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0
[19:55] <meetingology> Motion carried
[19:55] <Eickmeyer> #subtopic 15. Ubuntu Studio Wallpaper Street
[19:56] <Eickmeyer> I'm inclined to disqualify this one as the COF is wrong.
[19:56] <eylul> CoF?
[19:56] <captain-tux> That logo is huge..
[19:56] <Eickmeyer> Yeah. Compare it to the official one.
[19:56] <Eickmeyer> The center circle should have a hole in the middle.
[19:56] <captain-tux> Oh wow, didn't even notice.
[19:57] <eylul> honestly neither did I.
[19:57] <eylul> I really really like this. and that's a shame
[19:57] <eylul> :(
[19:57] <Eickmeyer> I didn't at first, but I don't think we can use it since the logo is wrong. :(
[19:57] <Eickmeyer> Otherwise I like it.
[19:57] <eylul> yeah
[19:58] <captain-tux> Is this definitive or could we reach out to the creator?
[19:58] <eylul> I think for the contest it is definitive
[19:58] <captain-tux> Of the wallpaper I mean..
[19:58] <eylul> to be fair to everyone
[19:58] <Eickmeyer> Yeah. The rules were clearly outlined.
[19:58] <captain-tux> Ah okay, makes sense..
[19:58] <captain-tux> Well then.
[19:58] <Eickmeyer> #info 15. Ubuntu Studio Wallpaper Strett is disqualified: incorrect logo
[19:59] <Eickmeyer> #subtopic 16. Ubuntu Studio Contest Submission
[19:59] <Eickmeyer> It's... a wallpaper.
[19:59] <captain-tux> I like it. :)
[19:59] <Eickmeyer> Very flat, much gravity, what flame. Wow.
[19:59] <captain-tux> Yes
[20:00] <Eickmeyer> What else can I say? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[20:01] <eylul> I am not sure..
[20:01] <Eickmeyer> Yeah, not sure if this is symbolic of Ubuntu Studio "Going down in flames."
[20:01] <eylul> its mostly
[20:02] <Eickmeyer> #voote 16. Ubuntu Studio Contest Submission
[20:02] <eylul> I am not entirely certain what the shape represents. but it works as a wallpaper
[20:02] <captain-tux> You're being to negative.. :P
[20:02] <Eickmeyer> #vote 16. Ubuntu Studio Contest Submission
[20:02] <meetingology> Please vote on: 16. Ubuntu Studio Contest Submission
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[20:02] <Eickmeyer> -1
[20:02] <meetingology> -1 received from Eickmeyer
[20:02] <captain-tux> +1
[20:02] <meetingology> +1 received from captain-tux
[20:02] <eylul> I am going to vote +1 I can be critical
[20:02] <eylul> +1
[20:02] <meetingology> +1 received from eylul
[20:02] <Eickmeyer> #endvote
[20:02] <meetingology> Voting ended on: 16. Ubuntu Studio Contest Submission
[20:02] <meetingology> Votes for:2 Votes against:1 Abstentions:0
[20:02] <meetingology> Motion carried
[20:02] <Eickmeyer> #subtopic 17. Ubuntu Studio 2018 Contest Submission Part 2
[20:03] <eylul> I am trying to go with: would this work as a wallpaper and how it goes with our criteria. rather than this is my personal opinion.
[20:03] <Eickmeyer> I rather like this one as flat wallpapers go.
[20:03] <eylul> I really don't like this one. 
[20:03]  * Eickmeyer nods
[20:04] <eylul> it wouldn't scale well in a large screen at all. or even a medium sized one. 
[20:04] <eylul> (this is a comment I will bring to several of the images down the line)
[20:04] <captain-tux> Not a huge fan either, but I don't see anything wrong with it.
[20:04] <Eickmeyer> #vote 17. Ubuntu Studi 2018 Contest Submission Part 2
[20:04] <meetingology> Please vote on: 17. Ubuntu Studi 2018 Contest Submission Part 2
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[20:04] <Eickmeyer> +1
[20:04] <meetingology> +1 received from Eickmeyer
[20:04] <captain-tux> +0
[20:04] <meetingology> +0 received from captain-tux
[20:05] <eylul> -1
[20:05] <meetingology> -1 received from eylul
[20:05] <Eickmeyer> #endvote
[20:05] <meetingology> Voting ended on: 17. Ubuntu Studi 2018 Contest Submission Part 2
[20:05] <meetingology> Votes for:1 Votes against:1 Abstentions:1
[20:05] <meetingology> Deadlock, casting vote may be used
[20:05] <Eickmeyer> #subtopic 18. Yellow Love
[20:05] <Eickmeyer> Right side, but blurry where it shouldn't be.
[20:05] <captain-tux> Oh yeah..
[20:06] <Eickmeyer> Just seems like the depth of field was too shallow.
[20:07] <captain-tux> This is probably a no for me, enough blossom-choices.
[20:07] <eylul> it just doesn't come across as depth.
[20:07] <eylul> but I will still go neutral with this one
[20:08] <Eickmeyer> #vote 18. Yellow Love
[20:08] <meetingology> Please vote on: 18. Yellow Love
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[20:08] <Eickmeyer> -1
[20:08] <meetingology> -1 received from Eickmeyer
[20:08] <captain-tux> -1
[20:08] <meetingology> -1 received from captain-tux
[20:08] <eylul> 0
[20:08] <meetingology> 0 received from eylul
[20:08] <Eickmeyer> #endvote
[20:08] <meetingology> Voting ended on: 18. Yellow Love
[20:08] <meetingology> Votes for:0 Votes against:2 Abstentions:1
[20:08] <meetingology> Motion denied
[20:08] <Eickmeyer> #subtopic 19. Fort
[20:09] <Eickmeyer> Interesting subject matter, but I feel like the image is cut-off.
[20:09] <eylul> the cut off doesn't bother me much as we have enough resolution
[20:09] <captain-tux> Looks fine to me.
[20:09] <eylul> its not the strongest wallpaper in the bunch, but I like the composition
[20:09] <eylul> and how it would work on a wallpaper
[20:10] <Eickmeyer> #vote 19. Fort
[20:10] <meetingology> Please vote on: 19. Fort
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[20:10] <captain-tux> +1
[20:10] <meetingology> +1 received from captain-tux
[20:10] <Eickmeyer> +0
[20:10] <meetingology> +0 received from Eickmeyer
[20:10] <eylul> +1
[20:10] <meetingology> +1 received from eylul
[20:10] <Eickmeyer> #endvote
[20:10] <meetingology> Voting ended on: 19. Fort
[20:10] <meetingology> Votes for:2 Votes against:0 Abstentions:1
[20:10] <meetingology> Motion carried
[20:10] <eylul> (oh and I love the details on the foreground)
[20:10] <Eickmeyer> #subtopic 20. Adolphus' Score
[20:10] <Eickmeyer> I'm kinda meh on this one.
[20:11] <captain-tux> What does it play out?
[20:11] <Eickmeyer> It doesn't. The notes aren't even real.
[20:11] <eylul> it looks like a training sequence. 
[20:12] <eylul> that's not the issue for me through. I like the idea.
[20:12] <captain-tux> Should've taken some sheet music classes maybe. :D
[20:12] <Eickmeyer> #vote 20. Adolphus' Score
[20:12] <meetingology> Please vote on: 20. Adolphus' Score
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[20:12] <Eickmeyer> +0
[20:12] <meetingology> +0 received from Eickmeyer
[20:12] <captain-tux> +0
[20:12] <meetingology> +0 received from captain-tux
[20:13] <eylul> +0
[20:13] <meetingology> +0 received from eylul
[20:13] <Eickmeyer> #endvote
[20:13] <meetingology> Voting ended on: 20. Adolphus' Score
[20:13] <meetingology> Votes for:0 Votes against:0 Abstentions:3
[20:13] <meetingology> Deadlock, casting vote may be used
[20:13] <Eickmeyer> #subtopic 21. True Creator
[20:13] <Eickmeyer> I love this one.
[20:14] <Eickmeyer> It speaks of multiple artforms.
[20:14] <eylul> I don't like this as an image, but I like this as a wallpaper if that makes sense?
[20:14] <captain-tux> The effects really annoy me, but it's not bad as an image..
[20:14] <Eickmeyer> That makes sense. The context of a wallpaper is the driving force here anyhow.
[20:15] <eylul> yeah the effect is why I don't like the image, but it works better when you zoom in. 
[20:15] <Eickmeyer> #vote 21. True Creator
[20:15] <meetingology> Please vote on: 21. True Creator
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[20:15] <Eickmeyer> +1
[20:15] <meetingology> +1 received from Eickmeyer
[20:15] <captain-tux> +1
[20:15] <meetingology> +1 received from captain-tux
[20:15] <eylul> +1
[20:15] <meetingology> +1 received from eylul
[20:15] <Eickmeyer> #endvote
[20:15] <meetingology> Voting ended on: 21. True Creator
[20:15] <meetingology> Votes for:3 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0
[20:15] <meetingology> Motion carried
[20:16] <Eickmeyer> #subtopic 22. Ubuntu Studio Wallpaper - Old Camera
[20:16] <Eickmeyer> The photographer in me loves this one too.
[20:16] <captain-tux> So dark... perfect.
[20:16] <eylul> again one of the strongest ones here
[20:16] <eylul> context relevant, works well as a wallpaper
[20:16] <eylul> not much to say really
[20:16] <Eickmeyer> #vote 22. Ubuntu Studio Wallpaper - Old Camera
[20:16] <meetingology> Please vote on: 22. Ubuntu Studio Wallpaper - Old Camera
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[20:16] <Eickmeyer> _1
[20:16] <captain-tux> +1
[20:16] <eylul> +1
[20:16] <meetingology> +1 received from captain-tux
[20:16] <meetingology> +1 received from eylul
[20:16] <Eickmeyer> +1
[20:16] <meetingology> +1 received from Eickmeyer
[20:16] <Eickmeyer> #endvote
[20:16] <meetingology> Voting ended on: 22. Ubuntu Studio Wallpaper - Old Camera
[20:16] <meetingology> Votes for:3 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0
[20:16] <meetingology> Motion carried
[20:17] <Eickmeyer> #subtopic 23. Ubuntu Studio Wallpaper - Bokeh
[20:17] <Eickmeyer> Too busy.
[20:17] <Eickmeyer> The bokeh isn't really... bokeh.
[20:17] <eylul> not my style, but it works as a wallpaper.
[20:17] <captain-tux> If it wasn't so bright, I feel it could've worked better.
[20:17] <Eickmeyer> Looks more like paint dots to me.
[20:18] <eylul> it might be bokeh
[20:18] <Eickmeyer> #vote 23. Ubuntu Studio Wallpaper - Bokeh
[20:18] <meetingology> Please vote on: 23. Ubuntu Studio Wallpaper - Bokeh
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[20:18] <Eickmeyer> -1
[20:18] <meetingology> -1 received from Eickmeyer
[20:18] <eylul> +1
[20:18] <meetingology> +1 received from eylul
[20:18] <captain-tux> +0
[20:18] <meetingology> +0 received from captain-tux
[20:18] <Eickmeyer> #endvote
[20:18] <meetingology> Voting ended on: 23. Ubuntu Studio Wallpaper - Bokeh
[20:18] <meetingology> Votes for:1 Votes against:1 Abstentions:1
[20:18] <meetingology> Deadlock, casting vote may be used
[20:18] <Eickmeyer> #subtopic 24. Eye Rest Minimalist Wallpaper
[20:18] <Eickmeyer> I'm trying to figure out what this has to do with anything.
[20:19] <captain-tux> Same here, haha
[20:19] <eylul> this, like the other one is very.. 1990s and I like them for that reason
[20:19] <eylul> :)
[20:19] <Eickmeyer> I mean, I get mountains & trees (heck, I'm surrounded by 'em where I live), but it's very plain.
[20:20] <captain-tux> The tree placement seems kinda random, too. Not a huge fan tbh.
[20:20] <eylul> oh wait I am looking at the wrong one
[20:20] <captain-tux> Since when? ;)
[20:21] <eylul> I have no issues with minimalist illustration
[20:21] <Eickmeyer> eylul: You got the right one now?
[20:21] <eylul> but I think part of the problem is that the ground is missing
[20:22] <eylul> (and yes i do)
[20:22] <eylul> (I had scrolled a bit ahead, taking notes, and got confused for a moment)
[20:22] <Eickmeyer> Yeah. It looks like it's trying too hard to be modern.
[20:22] <Eickmeyer> #vote 24. Eye Rest Minimalist Wallpaper
[20:22] <meetingology> Please vote on: 24. Eye Rest Minimalist Wallpaper
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[20:22] <Eickmeyer> -1
[20:22] <meetingology> -1 received from Eickmeyer
[20:22] <captain-tux> -1
[20:22] <meetingology> -1 received from captain-tux
[20:22] <eylul> -1
[20:22] <meetingology> -1 received from eylul
[20:22] <Eickmeyer> #endvote
[20:22] <meetingology> Voting ended on: 24. Eye Rest Minimalist Wallpaper
[20:22] <meetingology> Votes for:0 Votes against:3 Abstentions:0
[20:22] <meetingology> Motion denied
[20:23] <Eickmeyer> #subptopic 25. Ubuntu Studio Wallpaper - Macro
[20:23] <Eickmeyer> This might be the one with the '90s look you were talking about, eylul.
[20:23] <Eickmeyer> I rather like it, but it's not my favorite.
[20:23] <eylul> you skipped one
[20:23] <eylul> 24 is the macro. 
[20:23] <eylul> 25 is*
[20:24] <Eickmeyer> Yes...
[20:24] <eylul> I like this photo
[20:24] <Eickmeyer> I do as well.
[20:24] <eylul> and i know we have a lot of plants, I like the colors on this one
[20:25] <captain-tux> It's fine.
[20:25] <Eickmeyer> #vote 25. Ubuntu Studio Wallpaper - Macro
[20:25] <meetingology> Please vote on: 25. Ubuntu Studio Wallpaper - Macro
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[20:25] <captain-tux> +1
[20:25] <meetingology> +1 received from captain-tux
[20:25] <Eickmeyer> +1
[20:25] <eylul> +1
[20:25] <meetingology> +1 received from Eickmeyer
[20:25] <meetingology> +1 received from eylul
[20:25] <Eickmeyer> #endvote
[20:25] <meetingology> Voting ended on: 25. Ubuntu Studio Wallpaper - Macro
[20:25] <meetingology> Votes for:3 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0
[20:25] <meetingology> Motion carried
[20:25] <Eickmeyer> #subtopic 26. Ubuntu Studio Wallpaper - Simple Grey Pattern
[20:25] <eylul> this
[20:25] <eylul> was the one 
[20:25] <eylul> I referred as 1990s :)
[20:26] <Eickmeyer> Same problem as 12.
[20:26] <Eickmeyer> But the grey makes it more subtle.
[20:26] <captain-tux> Yes, not any better than the other one..
[20:26] <eylul> again I like it.
[20:26] <eylul> I like the pattern use
[20:26] <Eickmeyer> I'd let this one pass.
[20:26] <eylul> my main concern is that the logo is very VERY tiny
[20:27] <eylul> which is fine on a large screen, but it won't scale well on a laptop
[20:27] <Eickmeyer> #vote 26. Ubuntu Studio Wallpaper - Simple Grey Pattern
[20:27] <meetingology> Please vote on: 26. Ubuntu Studio Wallpaper - Simple Grey Pattern
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[20:27] <Eickmeyer> +0
[20:27] <meetingology> +0 received from Eickmeyer
[20:27] <eylul> +0
[20:27] <meetingology> +0 received from eylul
[20:27] <captain-tux> +0
[20:27] <meetingology> +0 received from captain-tux
[20:27] <Eickmeyer> #endvote
[20:27] <meetingology> Voting ended on: 26. Ubuntu Studio Wallpaper - Simple Grey Pattern
[20:27] <meetingology> Votes for:0 Votes against:0 Abstentions:3
[20:27] <meetingology> Deadlock, casting vote may be used
[20:27] <Eickmeyer> #subtopic 27. Piano Wallpaper
[20:27] <Eickmeyer> It's... good...
[20:27] <eylul> I really wish this was centered on the right
[20:28] <eylul> but otherwise yes, it is good. 
[20:28] <captain-tux> That piano looks broken or something..
[20:28] <Eickmeyer> Yeah. That might be what's bugging me.
[20:28] <eylul> the shadow.
[20:28] <eylul> of the logo
[20:28] <Eickmeyer> You're right. It's not consistent with the shadow of the piano keys.
[20:28] <Eickmeyer> Looks like it's supposed to be a reflection, perhaps, but there's no perspective to tell.
[20:29] <captain-tux> Ah, that's what was bugging me...
[20:29] <Eickmeyer> #vote 27. Piano Wallpaper
[20:29] <meetingology> Please vote on: 27. Piano Wallpaper
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[20:29] <Eickmeyer> -1
[20:29] <meetingology> -1 received from Eickmeyer
[20:29] <eylul> +1
[20:29] <meetingology> +1 received from eylul
[20:29] <captain-tux> -1
[20:29] <meetingology> -1 received from captain-tux
[20:29] <Eickmeyer> #endvote
[20:29] <meetingology> Voting ended on: 27. Piano Wallpaper
[20:29] <meetingology> Votes for:1 Votes against:2 Abstentions:0
[20:29] <meetingology> Motion denied
[20:29] <Eickmeyer> #subtopic 28. Ubuntu Studio - Morning
[20:30] <Eickmeyer> Busy, busy, busy, especially with the white wordmark.
[20:30] <eylul> beautiful image
[20:30] <eylul> really REALLY beautiful image
[20:30] <eylul> just...
[20:30] <eylul> not a wallpaper
[20:30] <Eickmeyer> Yeah. Would work as a cover photo on Facebook, but doesn't sit as a wallpaper.
[20:30] <captain-tux> Same
[20:30] <eylul> giant text is really not the best thing on a background.. yeah
[20:30] <eylul> exactly
[20:30] <Eickmeyer> #vote 28. Ubuntu Studio - Morning
[20:30] <meetingology> Please vote on: 28. Ubuntu Studio - Morning
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[20:30] <Eickmeyer> -1
[20:30] <meetingology> -1 received from Eickmeyer
[20:30] <eylul> -1
[20:30] <meetingology> -1 received from eylul
[20:30] <captain-tux> -1
[20:31] <meetingology> -1 received from captain-tux
[20:31] <Eickmeyer> #endvote
[20:31] <meetingology> Voting ended on: 28. Ubuntu Studio - Morning
[20:31] <meetingology> Votes for:0 Votes against:3 Abstentions:0
[20:31] <meetingology> Motion denied
[20:31] <Eickmeyer> #subtopic 29. Sunrise
[20:31] <Eickmeyer> It's not bad, but I feel like the horizon is off.
[20:31] <eylul> very beautiful composition, and would have worked well, but serious noise issues. 
[20:31] <eylul> which would become very visible on desktop
[20:31] <Eickmeyer> Yeah, definitely oisy.
[20:31] <Eickmeyer> *noisy
[20:32] <Eickmeyer> captain-tux: Thoughts? Feelings? Hulllucinations?
[20:32] <captain-tux> Hmm..
[20:34] <Eickmeyer> Hullucinations. Right.
[20:34] <captain-tux> I'd still go with it dsspite the noise.
[20:34] <Eickmeyer> j/k
[20:34] <captain-tux> Not today!
[20:34] <Eickmeyer> #vote 29. Sunrise
[20:34] <meetingology> Please vote on: 29. Sunrise
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[20:34] <Eickmeyer> +0
[20:34] <meetingology> +0 received from Eickmeyer
[20:34] <eylul> -1
[20:34] <meetingology> -1 received from eylul
[20:34] <captain-tux> +1
[20:34] <meetingology> +1 received from captain-tux
[20:34] <Eickmeyer> #endvote
[20:34] <meetingology> Voting ended on: 29. Sunrise
[20:34] <meetingology> Votes for:1 Votes against:1 Abstentions:1
[20:34] <meetingology> Deadlock, casting vote may be used
[20:34] <Eickmeyer> #subptopic 3. Ubuntu Studio - Bombay Night
[20:35] <Eickmeyer> I like it, except the logo looks like it's going to roll over the city.
[20:35] <Eickmeyer> And the horizon is off.
[20:35] <captain-tux> That's exactly my thought.
[20:35] <eylul> noise issues, similar slightly off angle. I like what the intention was
[20:36] <Eickmeyer> #vote 30. Ubuntu Studio - Bombay Night
[20:36] <meetingology> Please vote on: 30. Ubuntu Studio - Bombay Night
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[20:36] <Eickmeyer> +0
[20:36] <meetingology> +0 received from Eickmeyer
[20:36] <eylul> -1
[20:36] <meetingology> -1 received from eylul
[20:36] <captain-tux> +0
[20:36] <meetingology> +0 received from captain-tux
[20:36] <Eickmeyer> #endvote
[20:36] <meetingology> Voting ended on: 30. Ubuntu Studio - Bombay Night
[20:36] <meetingology> Votes for:0 Votes against:1 Abstentions:2
[20:36] <meetingology> Motion denied
[20:36] <Eickmeyer> #subtopic 31. Underwater World 1
[20:36] <Eickmeyer> Just keep swimming...
[20:36] <eylul> big logo
[20:37] <eylul> this is unfortunately what I am going to say for this and following few images
[20:37] <eylul> great promotional image. 
[20:37] <Eickmeyer> Yeah.
[20:37] <eylul> not a wallpaper
[20:37] <captain-tux> I think this could work...
[20:37] <Eickmeyer> captain-tux: Anenomies?
[20:37] <Eickmeyer> j/k
[20:37] <eylul> they are good photographs.
[20:37] <eylul> :(
[20:37] <captain-tux> Erm.. :D
[20:38] <Eickmeyer> #vote 31. Underwater World 1
[20:38] <meetingology> Please vote on: 31. Underwater World 1
[20:38] <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1/-1/+0 #channelname)
[20:38] <Eickmeyer> _1
[20:38] <captain-tux> +1
[20:38] <meetingology> +1 received from captain-tux
[20:38] <Eickmeyer> -1
[20:38] <meetingology> -1 received from Eickmeyer
[20:38] <eylul> -1
[20:38] <meetingology> -1 received from eylul
[20:38] <Eickmeyer> #endvote
[20:38] <meetingology> Voting ended on: 31. Underwater World 1
[20:38] <meetingology> Votes for:1 Votes against:2 Abstentions:0
[20:38] <meetingology> Motion denied
[20:38] <Eickmeyer> #subtopic 32. Underwater World 2
[20:39] <Eickmeyer> If I had to choose between the three, this is the one I'd go with. Fish circling the CoF.
[20:39] <captain-tux> Busy, logo not centered.. :/
[20:39] <captain-tux> Oh, that's why?
[20:39] <Eickmeyer> But, compositionally, the placement of the logo makes sense.
[20:39] <Eickmeyer> Yep.
[20:40] <eylul> unfortunately that's hard to catch a bit.. but this one really is a case of, I really wish it was just the photograph
[20:40] <Eickmeyer> #vote 32. Underwater World 2
[20:40] <meetingology> Please vote on: 32. Underwater World 2
[20:40] <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1/-1/+0 #channelname)
[20:40] <eylul> because it is a really nice photograph that works well as wallpaper but sorry..
[20:40] <eylul> -1
[20:40] <meetingology> -1 received from eylul
[20:40] <captain-tux> +0
[20:40] <meetingology> +0 received from captain-tux
[20:40] <Eickmeyer> +0
[20:40] <meetingology> +0 received from Eickmeyer
[20:40] <Eickmeyer> #endvote
[20:40] <meetingology> Voting ended on: 32. Underwater World 2
[20:40] <meetingology> Votes for:0 Votes against:1 Abstentions:2
[20:40] <meetingology> Motion denied
[20:40] <Eickmeyer> #subtopic 33. Undrwater World 3
[20:41] <Eickmeyer> CoF is wrong. Disqualified.
[20:41]  * Eickmeyer sighs
[20:41] <eylul> :(
[20:41] <captain-tux> Where do they get the obe with the dot?
[20:41] <captain-tux> *one
[20:41] <Eickmeyer> Likely didn't use the resources provided but made their own.
[20:42] <eylul> that's actually a good question
[20:42] <eylul> because we have seen the same thing several times
[20:42] <eylul> one sec
[20:42] <eylul> going to double check something
[20:44] <eylul> *is trying to find the folder where ubuntustudio wallpaper are*
[20:44] <Eickmeyer> /usr/share/backgrounds/ubuntustudio
[20:44] <Eickmeyer> eylul: ^
[20:46] <eylul> yeah
[20:46] <eylul> no we don't have a precendent for it
[20:46] <eylul> that I can find
[20:47] <Eickmeyer> I couldn't find it either, which is why I'm pretty sure we can't use it.
[20:47] <Eickmeyer> #subtopic 33 & 34
[20:48] <Eickmeyer> These have the wrong wordmark /and/ wrong logo.
[20:48] <Eickmeyer> So, I didqualified them straight away.
[20:48] <Eickmeyer> *disqualified
[20:48] <eylul> ok
[20:48] <Eickmeyer> Really, it's the old typeface, so it would've worked 8+ years ago.
[20:49] <Eickmeyer> #topic Other Business
[20:49] <Eickmeyer> I think we narrowed these down plenty, so I'll go ahead and compile them into a final form and attach a strawpoll.
[20:49] <eylul> there is 2 things
[20:49] <eylul> ok
[20:49] <Eickmeyer> Go ahead...
[20:50] <eylul> 1 is the google code-in
[20:50] <Eickmeyer> #subtopic Google Code-In
[20:50] <eylul> which we should really put some tasks in if we have any low hanging fruits.
[20:50] <Eickmeyer> Not a bad idea.
[20:50] <Eickmeyer> I wish OvenWerks were here to discuss that and the possibilities.
[20:50] <eylul> *nods*
[20:51] <eylul> we can poke over the email. 
[20:51] <Eickmeyer> Agreed.
[20:51] <Eickmeyer> And the other topic?
[20:52] <eylul> the other is... well...
[20:52] <eylul> I am going to be stepping down from the core council
[20:52] <Eickmeyer> I understand. Is there a reason?
[20:52] <eylul> I am not going anywhere. I'll still be around the way Ross is.
[20:53] <eylul> its getting to the point where I am taking more time
[20:53] <eylul> from the group
[20:53] <eylul> then contributing to it due to dragging projects
[20:53] <eylul> my original plan was to phase out and leave a lot earlier.. but wanted to stay a little longer to help with transition, but i think its time
[20:53] <eylul> you guys have got this. :)
[20:53] <eylul> things are progressing
[20:54] <eylul> I might be back eventually in a more fulltime contribution, but its quickly becoming hard to even make it to the meetings at the moment.
[20:54] <Eickmeyer> Well, I know that I'll miss you. You've been an immense help, and I wish there was some way we could keep you, but I understand if you need to leave.
[20:54] <eylul> I am going to be around
[20:55] <eylul> to answer questions etc
[20:55] <eylul> but probably won't be in meetings regularly
[20:55] <eylul> and probably shouldn't be taking any active projects at least for next few months
[20:55] <Eickmeyer> It's hard for me to make the meetings as well, which is why I was considering making them monthly or something.
[20:55] <eylul> that could be a solution
[20:55] <eylul> or weekly check-ins can be a solution
[20:56] <Eickmeyer> I honestly like the weekly check-ins, and we can move it to email.
[20:56] <Eickmeyer> Would that help?
[20:56] <eylul> not for me
[20:56] <eylul> it really is a case of too many commitments issue for me
[20:57] <Eickmeyer> I understand totally.
[20:57] <eylul> and I am the least useful on this one. 
[20:57] <Eickmeyer> #info eylul stepping-down from council.
[20:57] <Eickmeyer> Honestly, your contribution to the artwork has been invaluable.
[20:57] <eylul> I'll probably still drop by some meetings. :) 
[20:57] <Eickmeyer> And the epub is great, and I've just been slacking on putting it in the doc.
[20:58] <captain-tux> Not happy to read this, but thanks for being open about it. :)
[20:58] <eylul> I did one wallpaper. I'll probably be around sporadically to contribute on that front still
[20:58] <eylul> mostly i don't want us to a) wait on me for dragging projects
[20:58] <eylul> and pretend we have someone active when we don't. b) i don't want you guys to wait on decisions for me
[20:58] <eylul> :)
[20:59] <eylul> otherwise I'll still be around when I can contribute :)
[20:59] <Eickmeyer> You're the least of the problems. :)
[20:59] <eylul> well better to step down before becoming one. ;)
[20:59] <Eickmeyer> Anyhow, we need to wrap this meeting. I have to do some cleaning before the mother-in-law gets here.
[20:59] <eylul> all good
[20:59] <eylul> sorry to drop this with no warning
[21:00] <Eickmeyer> It's okay. We'll do something to lessen the burden on everyone.
[21:00] <eylul> but figured it was better to drop this in person, in meeting
[21:00] <eylul> recruit
[21:00] <eylul> recruit
[21:00] <eylul> recruit
[21:00] <Eickmeyer> ^this
[21:00] <Eickmeyer> #endmeeting
[21:00] <meetingology> Meeting ended Sat Sep 15 21:00:38 2018 UTC.  
[21:00] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntustudio-devel/2018/ubuntustudio-devel.2018-09-15-19.02.moin.txt
[21:00] <Eickmeyer> I've gotta get busy on cleaning. Thanks everyone!
[21:00] <eylul> be well
[21:01] <Eickmeyer> You too
[21:01] <tedge_> hey, would now be an ok time to talk about PikoPixel?
[21:01] <captain-tux> Thank you.
[21:01] <eylul> I am here for a bit.
[21:01] <Eickmeyer> tedge_: Go ahead.
[21:01] <eylul> captain-tux. :)
[21:02] <tedge_> first of all, thank you to the council for accepting pikopixel into ubuntu studio
[21:02] <tedge_> (I'm the upstream developer of PikoPixel, which is an app for editing & drawing pixel art)
[21:03] <Eickmeyer> Quite welcome, tedge_!
[21:03] <tedge_> I've been doing some testing with a daily build of US and found a couple minor issues that I'm hoping to fix before release
[21:04] <Eickmeyer> tedge_: Have you filed bug reports against those items?
[21:04] <tedge_> in order to make the testing as complete as possible, I'd like to get PikoPixel included in the daily builds (I'm currently just installing the package manually)
[21:05] <Eickmeyer> tedge_: OvenWerks was going to get it in the seed, I don't know what happened after that.
[21:05] <Eickmeyer> If you lurk here, he'll probably answer after a while.
[21:06] <tedge_> They are minor issues, so I haven't filed any external reports - the plan is to put out a bugfix release, get the Debian package updated, and hopefully get it updated in Cosmic as well before it releases
[21:07] <eylul> if you can put out bug files it will help us remember
[21:07] <eylul> and to watch and poke to see if we can get the debian repo changes make it to ubuntu repos
[21:07] <eylul> so it helps. even if it is being fixed upstream.
[21:08] <tedge_> I'd still like to get the current version installed in the US seed so I can make sure there's no further issues (which might not show up with a manual install)
[21:08] <Eickmeyer> We're beyond feature freeze, so it'll need a Feature Freeze exception.
[21:08] <eylul> *nods*
[21:08] <tedge_> yup, I've updated it before past feature freeze
[21:09] <eylul> basically the way the whole procedure works is that
[21:09] <eylul> we don't do the update directly
[21:09] <tedge_> also, is there anything I can help with related to integration, such as screenshots for the website, answering questions, etc?
[21:10] <eylul> exceptions go though main ubuntu repository structure. if that makes sense? :) 
[21:11] <tedge_> yup
[21:11] <eylul> Eickmeyer can answer more, but generally what you are doing, testing. helps a lot
[21:12] <eylul> we will be writing the release notes and writing a couple of sentences about what pikopixel is can be of help. 
[21:12] <tedge_> I'm not asking (in here) for the package to be updated - I'm just letting you know that I'm hoping to get it updated soon, and testing with an updated seed would allow me to hopefully fix any issues I find before the Cosmic release
[21:12] <eylul> oh ok
[21:13] <eylul> honestly I think we lost Eickmeyer so I am hesitant to say more as I just stepped down
[21:14] <eylul> I'll say this through, feel free to drop to the meetings, and we can also use more contributors to ubuntuStudio, if you are interested. :)
[21:14] <tedge_> ok, thanks eylul.
[21:15] <eylul> but yeah at this stage, 
[21:16] <eylul> what you are doing (testing and fixing) is a lot of help, so thank you, for getting in touch with us.
[21:18] <tedge_> sure, thanks. regarding the release notes - where can I find previous release notes, and who should I send the PikoPixel description to?
[21:19] <eylul> let me find them, one sec
[21:20] <eylul> http://ubuntustudio.org/2018/04/ubuntu-studio-18-04-released/
[21:21] <eylul> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BionicBeaver/ReleaseNotes/UbuntuStudio
[21:21] <eylul> the 1-2 sentences would go to the blog post
[21:21] <eylul> e.g. on this update we added PikoPiksel to our list of graphics software. PikoPixsel is... (one-two sentences of what the software does)
[21:22] <eylul> PikoPixel*
[21:22] <eylul> I can't type tonight
[21:24] <tedge_> thanks for the links. who makes the blog post when US is released?
[21:24] <eylul> one of us
[21:25] <eylul> its usually coordinated either through the US-devel mailing list. or the IRC chat.
[21:25] <eylul> are you on the us-devel mailing list?
[21:25] <tedge_> yup
[21:25] <eylul> ok
[21:26] <eylul> release notes happen usually sometime around last betas and release candidate testing.
[21:27] <eylul> blog post will be drafted, around the same time. 
[21:27] <tedge_> PikoPixel has a couple social media accounts that I can use to announce PP's inclusion in Ubuntu Studio - when would that be appropriate? now, close to release, after releasE?
[21:28] <eylul> I would say after release or at least around release candidate, 
[21:28] <eylul> just in case there is a major bug etc that prevents it from being there.. I sincerely doubt that will happen but.. :)
[21:29] <eylul> which platforms are you on by the way?
[21:29] <eylul> (just out of curiosity)
[21:29] <tedge_> another way of looking at it is that it might get a few more people checking out the prerelease builds, which could help find issues
[21:30] <eylul> Talk to Eickmeyer and OvenWerks
[21:30] <eylul> they are the ones who follow closely the packages and their statuses.
[21:31] <tedge_> do you mean what platforms PikoPixel runs on, or what I use to develop it?
[21:31] <eylul> I mean the social media
[21:31] <eylul> haha sorry
[21:31] <tedge_> http://twitter.com/pikopixel
[21:31] <tedge_> http://instagram.com/pikopixeleditor/
[21:32] <eylul> alright :)
[21:36] <tedge_> thanks again for your answers, eylul. sorry to hear you're stepping down - good luck with your future endeavors!
[21:40] <tedge_> I have to get going - if anyone has questions about PikoPixel or wants to get in touch, you can email me at: pikopixel (at) twilightedge (dot) com. Thanks!