[19:02] #startmeeting [19:02] Meeting started Sat Sep 15 19:02:07 2018 UTC. The chair is Eickmeyer. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. [19:02] Available commands: action commands idea info link nick [19:02] #chair captain-tux eylul OvenWerks [19:02] Current chairs: Eickmeyer OvenWerks captain-tux eylul [19:02] Anyone else here? [19:02] :) [19:02] Hey! [19:03] hey [19:03] hi [19:03] Hi tedge! [19:03] Joining for our devel meeting today? [19:04] yup, if that's ok [19:04] new people! [19:04] Yeah, that's cool. So far just eylul and myself, and the discussion today is on the entries for the wallpaper for 18.10. [19:04] Could probably use the third vote if you're up for it. [19:05] Anyhow, lets get this ball rolling. [19:05] so how will we do this? [19:05] #topic Cosmic Cuttlefish Wallpapers [19:05] sure, how will they be selected? yes/no for each, choose favorites, etc.? [19:06] tedge beat me to the question :D [19:06] I'm thinking we'll go through each one, discuss, and then take a vote. We'll narrow it down to the top 20 and then let the public vote on the rest. [19:06] Entries are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Artwork/CosmicWallpaperEntries [19:07] The bottom two are disqualified for using the incorrect typeface. [19:07] I noticed the logo was wrong on a few others, but we'll cross that bridge when we get there. [19:08] So, we'll get started. [19:08] #subtopic 1. First Rays [19:08] I actually like this one. It's a decent shot with plenty of bokeh and the subject matter of the flower isn't bad. [19:09] I should just say that, most of my votes will be less about independent merits of the works.. and more on if I think they would work as a wallpaper or not. [19:09] :) [19:09] Sounds good. [19:09] Do you think this one works as a wallpaper, eylul? [19:09] I like this. it is not busy, which is a good thing on a background image. [19:09] Agreed. [19:09] Shall we vote? [19:10] :) [19:10] tedge_, captain-tux, anything to add? [19:10] we lost tedge I believe. [19:11] Yeah, probably. Happens when people get tails. [19:11] yup, lost connection [19:11] tedge -> tedge_ [19:11] Well, let's go ahead and vote. [19:11] #vote 1. First Rays [19:11] Please vote on: 1. First Rays [19:11] Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1/-1/+0 #channelname) [19:11] +1 [19:11] +1 received from Eickmeyer [19:11] +1 [19:11] +1 received from eylul [19:12] +1 [19:12] +1 received from tedge_ [19:12] #endvote [19:12] Voting ended on: 1. First Rays [19:12] Votes for:3 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0 [19:12] Motion carried [19:12] #subtopic 2. Mountain of Caves [19:13] I'm not flipped with this one. Seems to draw too mutch attention to itself and while the subject matter is interesting, the picture itself isn't. [19:13] Thoughts anyone? [19:14] (I did send you PM by the way) but I am neutral on this one [19:14] I want to see how many we get, left and keep this or remove this depending. [19:14] +0 [19:14] Omg, my IRC didn't update, sorry.. gotte catch up real quick.. [19:16] ... testing connection ... [19:16] captain-tux [19:16] Yes [19:16] we are only at the second image [19:17] so maybe you can add your thoughts in :) [19:17] tedge_: We had a brief discussion, and I hate to do this, but we don't really know who you are and we're kinda trying to keep this voting to the council, which consists of myself, eylul, OvenWerks, captain-tux, and one other that isn't here. [19:18] tedge_: We had set the rules at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Artwork/UserShowcase and we would be remiss if we didn't abide by them. [19:18] Sure, thanks. It's a bit busy, but as a wallpeper, I'd include it. [19:18] Well, lets go ahead and vote on it. [19:18] #vote 2. Mountain of Caves [19:18] Please vote on: 2. Mountain of Caves [19:18] Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1/-1/+0 #channelname) [19:18] -1 [19:18] -1 received from Eickmeyer [19:19] +0 [19:19] +0 received from eylul [19:19] captain-tux: ? [19:20] +1 [19:20] +1 received from captain-tux [19:20] #endvote [19:20] Voting ended on: 2. Mountain of Caves [19:20] Votes for:1 Votes against:1 Abstentions:1 [19:20] Deadlock, casting vote may be used [19:20] Okay, moving on to the third. [19:20] #subtopic Ubuntu Studio - Morning Dew [19:21] I like this, though it's busy, and it's a creative use of the COF. [19:22] I like that it is uniform, and it is different than other wallpapers we had before :) [19:22] Yeah. [19:22] captain-tux: Any thoughts? [19:23] I like it as well. [19:23] cool. [19:23] #vote 3. Ubuntu Studio - Morning Dew [19:23] Please vote on: 3. Ubuntu Studio - Morning Dew [19:23] Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1/-1/+0 #channelname) [19:23] +1 [19:23] +1 received from Eickmeyer [19:23] +1 [19:23] +1 [19:23] +1 received from captain-tux [19:23] +1 received from eylul [19:23] #endvote [19:23] Voting ended on: 3. Ubuntu Studio - Morning Dew [19:23] Votes for:3 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0 [19:23] Motion carried [19:23] #subtopic 4. Love Ubuntu Studio [19:24] it is a wallpaper [19:24] It's... cute. [19:24] it kind of reads medical to me... :) [19:24] but I am somewhere between a neutral and positive for this one. :) [19:24] Yeah, hopefully not foretelling of flatlining. ;) [19:25] Is thaf fine with the logo-thingy? [19:25] captain-tux: You mean the heart with the COF inside? [19:25] Yep [19:26] Don't know how Canonical feels about that [19:26] I don't see why not. I didn't specify that we had to use the circled COF this time, so I'm letting it slide. [19:26] Ah, okay [19:26] #vote 4. Loe Ubuntu Studio [19:26] Please vote on: 4. Loe Ubuntu Studio [19:26] Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1/-1/+0 #channelname) [19:26] +1 [19:26] +1 received from Eickmeyer [19:26] +1 [19:26] +1 received from captain-tux [19:27] +0 [19:27] +0 received from eylul [19:27] #endvote [19:27] Voting ended on: 4. Loe Ubuntu Studio [19:27] Votes for:2 Votes against:0 Abstentions:1 [19:27] Motion carried [19:27] #subtopic 5. Journey [19:27] This one is unique. [19:28] how so? [19:28] I'm not flipped by it, and you can tell it's definintely tonemapped HDR, but I think I would've tried to put more blue into the sky. [19:28] Maybe unique was the wrong word. [19:28] ah [19:29] I really really like the composition and it would make a good wallpaper. but there is some very visible issues with the contrast. [19:29] Yeah. [19:29] captain-tux: Thoughts? [19:30] Same pretty much, but I'd wave it through. [19:30] Okay. [19:30] (not the contrast, but.. the wavelet based sharpening) [19:30] eylul: Yeah, I'm not a fan of that, personally. [19:30] #vote 5. Journey [19:30] Please vote on: 5. Journey [19:30] Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1/-1/+0 #channelname) [19:30] +0 [19:30] +0 received from Eickmeyer [19:30] -1 [19:30] -1 received from eylul [19:30] +1 [19:30] +1 received from captain-tux [19:31] #endvote [19:31] Voting ended on: 5. Journey [19:31] Votes for:1 Votes against:1 Abstentions:1 [19:31] Deadlock, casting vote may be used [19:31] #subtopic 6. United We Grow [19:31] Another flower macro, this one is quite a bit lighter. [19:31] good image, very clear, i like that the main subject is on right side (most people will have their icons on left, so that's a good thing on wallpaper) [19:32] Would work as a wallpaper, but I'm not sure how many flowers we should include. [19:32] captain-tux: ? [19:33] Is the sharpness a little off or am I seeing weird things? (on mobile atm) [19:33] I think it is a very VERY shallow depth of field [19:33] It's a shallow depth of field, definitely. [19:33] or possibly minor editing on that right side. :) [19:33] That's what meant, sorry. The focus is a bit weird to me, but it's fine. [19:34] Likely a 50mm lens with a 1.8 aperature, but I'm only speculating. [19:34] Anyhow... [19:34] #vote 6. United We Grow [19:34] Please vote on: 6. United We Grow [19:34] Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1/-1/+0 #channelname) [19:34] that might be wider aperture or a macro filter on top but that's offtopic. ;D [19:34] +1 [19:34] +1 received from eylul [19:34] +1 [19:34] +1 received from Eickmeyer [19:34] +@ [19:34] +1 [19:34] +1 received from captain-tux [19:35] #endvote [19:35] Voting ended on: 6. United We Grow [19:35] Votes for:3 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0 [19:35] Motion carried [19:35] Close... :D [19:35] LOL [19:35] #subtopic 7. Orange [19:35] This is your classic "desaturate everything but the subject matter", but it's inconsistent. The stems on the background orange flowers were desaturated. [19:36] the biggest issue for me is the edges around the flowers [19:36] that reads as an error, rather than artistic choice. [19:36] Yeah. I'm not a big fan of this one. [19:37] again unfortunate because I like the idea of having something of this sort in the mix. [19:37] Yeah. [19:37] I actually like the saturation contrast, but othrr than that, not a huve fan, personally. [19:38] #vote 7. Orange [19:38] Please vote on: 7. Orange [19:38] Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1/-1/+0 #channelname) [19:38] -1 [19:38] -1 received from Eickmeyer [19:38] -1 [19:38] -1 received from eylul [19:38] Omg, please excuse my writing.. [19:38] -1 [19:38] -1 received from captain-tux [19:38] #endvote [19:38] Voting ended on: 7. Orange [19:38] Votes for:0 Votes against:3 Abstentions:0 [19:38] Motion denied [19:38] #subtopic 8. Birth [19:38] (I like how the poor meetingology is trying to make sense of our ranking votes ;) ) [19:38] I rather like this one, but it's another "flower macro". [19:38] I assume we will do a second pass [19:39] to finalize, so I am in favor of just going with this one for now [19:39] and decide if we end up with too many or uneven selections, if that makes sense? [19:39] Okay. Sounds reasonable, but I'll have to go back through the logs to see the scores on some of them to eliminate. [19:40] by the way we will need to remember to add captain-tux's vote on the first one [19:40] Yeah, good point. [19:41] speaking of *pokes captain-tux* thoughts? [19:41] lol [19:42] I feel a little undecided. It's good, but content on the "wrong" side, as eylul mentioned before.. [19:42] A good point. [19:42] It's a little empty on the right. [19:42] #vote 8. Birth [19:42] Please vote on: 8. Birth [19:42] Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1/-1/+0 #channelname) [19:42] +0 [19:42] +0 received from Eickmeyer [19:42] Just black [19:42] +0 [19:43] +0 received from captain-tux [19:43] +0 [19:43] +0 received from eylul [19:43] #endvote [19:43] Voting ended on: 8. Birth [19:43] Votes for:0 Votes against:0 Abstentions:3 [19:43] Deadlock, casting vote may be used [19:43] just because we have so many flowers [19:43] Yeah. [19:43] That too. [19:43] #endvote [19:43] No vote in progress [19:44] Derp [19:44] #subtopic 9. Cymbal [19:44] (OT) By the way, eylul, sorry if you've already mentioned, but I didn't see your wallpaper (the one with the blue static)? [19:44] I rather like this one, but I'm biased as I'm a former drummer. [19:44] that one is the default wallpaper captain-tux. :) [19:44] Ah, okay! Cool. [19:44] :)) [19:45] Yeah, I likd this one too, more instruments. ;) [19:45] this one is easily one of my favorites. its very content relevant to ubuntu-studio. very minimalist and smooth (good for a wallpaper) [19:45] again focus is right side which is good. [19:45] Yep. [19:45] #vote 9. Cymbal [19:45] Please vote on: 9. Cymbal [19:45] Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1/-1/+0 #channelname) [19:45] +1 [19:45] +1 received from Eickmeyer [19:45] +1 [19:45] +1 received from captain-tux [19:45] +1 [19:45] +1 received from eylul [19:45] #endvote [19:45] Voting ended on: 9. Cymbal [19:45] Votes for:3 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0 [19:45] Motion carried [19:45] #subtopic 10. Ubuntu Studio - Paper Haptic [19:46] I'm not a fan of the "Open Creation" tagline. Yes, it fits, but no, not our tagline. [19:46] there is 3 of these.. as these are community wallpapers.. I am tempted to go with it.. unless it is a tagline that belongs to something else.. [19:47] mainly because I really like this wallpaper from a compositional standpoint [19:47] I'm torn, because I want to value the idea, but am not a fan of the wording, either. [19:47] Well, the third one uses the wordmark, so I'd be happier with that. [19:47] (and I do think that it is better than the black variant) [19:48] I think out of these 3 I am for the 1st and 3rd. [19:48] But, yes, I like this one better than the other two from a compositional standpoint. [19:48] You mean the one that says improved? [19:48] #vote 10. Ubuntu Studio - Paper Haptic [19:48] Please vote on: 10. Ubuntu Studio - Paper Haptic [19:48] Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1/-1/+0 #channelname) [19:48] +0 [19:48] +0 received from Eickmeyer [19:48] +1 [19:48] +1 received from eylul [19:48] +0 [19:48] +0 received from captain-tux [19:48] #endvote [19:48] Voting ended on: 10. Ubuntu Studio - Paper Haptic [19:48] Votes for:1 Votes against:0 Abstentions:2 [19:48] Motion carried [19:48] #subtopic 11. Ubuntu Studio - Mineral Sparks [19:49] Again with the open creation wording, and if I had to choose between this and 13 I'd go with 13. [19:49] no for this one, simply because we have the ubuntuStudio variant, 2 candidates down [19:49] Yes, same. [19:49] I also have the feeling 13 was a resubmission of this one. [19:50] #vote 11. Ubuntu Studio - Mineral Sparks [19:50] Please vote on: 11. Ubuntu Studio - Mineral Sparks [19:50] Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1/-1/+0 #channelname) [19:50] -1 [19:50] -1 received from Eickmeyer [19:50] it might also be variants. [19:50] -1 [19:50] -1 received from captain-tux [19:50] -1 [19:50] -1 received from eylul [19:50] #endvote [19:50] Voting ended on: 11. Ubuntu Studio - Mineral Sparks [19:50] Votes for:0 Votes against:3 Abstentions:0 [19:50] Motion denied [19:50] #subtopic 12. Ubuntu Studio - Blue Pattern [19:50] its a wallpaper [19:50] This one doesn't scale well, but I like the idea. [19:51] It makes my display do weird things.. :P [19:51] ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ [19:51] its a very retro feeling wallpaper. Yeah I am also noticing it. [19:51] captain-tux: Same. if I scale it in it looks right, but if I scale it out it looks weird. [19:51] Seems dangerous. [19:52] #vote 12. Ubuntu Studio - Blue Pattern [19:52] Please vote on: 12. Ubuntu Studio - Blue Pattern [19:52] Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1/-1/+0 #channelname) [19:52] -1 [19:52] -1 received from Eickmeyer [19:52] +1 [19:52] +1 received from eylul [19:52] -1 [19:52] -1 received from captain-tux [19:52] #endvote [19:52] Voting ended on: 12. Ubuntu Studio - Blue Pattern [19:52] Votes for:1 Votes against:2 Abstentions:0 [19:52] Motion denied [19:52] #subtopic 13. Ubuntu Studio - Mineral Sparks Improved [19:52] I think we've discussed this one ad nauseum [19:52] I like the white variant cleaner, but yeah.. [19:53] #vote 13. Ubuntu Studio - Mineral Sparks Improved [19:53] Please vote on: 13. Ubuntu Studio - Mineral Sparks Improved [19:53] Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1/-1/+0 #channelname) [19:53] +1 [19:53] +1 received from Eickmeyer [19:53] +1 [19:53] +1 received from captain-tux [19:53] +1 [19:53] +1 received from eylul [19:53] #endvote [19:53] Voting ended on: 13. Ubuntu Studio - Mineral Sparks Improved [19:53] Votes for:3 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0 [19:53] Motion carried [19:53] #subtopic 14. Adlfo Rojas [19:54] I rather like this one. It covers a lot of the "studio" aspect. [19:55] its not my favorite compositionally, but I like the concept [19:55] It's not my personal favourite, but I can see how somebody would use it. [19:55] #vote 14. Adolfo Rojas [19:55] Please vote on: 14. Adolfo Rojas [19:55] Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1/-1/+0 #channelname) [19:55] +1 [19:55] +1 received from Eickmeyer [19:55] +1 [19:55] +1 received from eylul [19:55] +1 [19:55] +1 received from captain-tux [19:55] #endvote [19:55] Voting ended on: 14. Adolfo Rojas [19:55] Votes for:3 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0 [19:55] Motion carried [19:55] #subtopic 15. Ubuntu Studio Wallpaper Street [19:56] I'm inclined to disqualify this one as the COF is wrong. [19:56] CoF? [19:56] That logo is huge.. [19:56] Yeah. Compare it to the official one. [19:56] The center circle should have a hole in the middle. [19:56] Oh wow, didn't even notice. [19:57] honestly neither did I. [19:57] I really really like this. and that's a shame [19:57] :( [19:57] I didn't at first, but I don't think we can use it since the logo is wrong. :( [19:57] Otherwise I like it. [19:57] yeah [19:58] Is this definitive or could we reach out to the creator? [19:58] I think for the contest it is definitive [19:58] Of the wallpaper I mean.. [19:58] to be fair to everyone [19:58] Yeah. The rules were clearly outlined. [19:58] Ah okay, makes sense.. [19:58] Well then. [19:58] #info 15. Ubuntu Studio Wallpaper Strett is disqualified: incorrect logo [19:59] #subtopic 16. Ubuntu Studio Contest Submission [19:59] It's... a wallpaper. [19:59] I like it. :) [19:59] Very flat, much gravity, what flame. Wow. [19:59] Yes [20:00] What else can I say? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ [20:01] I am not sure.. [20:01] Yeah, not sure if this is symbolic of Ubuntu Studio "Going down in flames." [20:01] its mostly [20:02] #voote 16. Ubuntu Studio Contest Submission [20:02] I am not entirely certain what the shape represents. but it works as a wallpaper [20:02] You're being to negative.. :P [20:02] #vote 16. Ubuntu Studio Contest Submission [20:02] Please vote on: 16. Ubuntu Studio Contest Submission [20:02] Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1/-1/+0 #channelname) [20:02] -1 [20:02] -1 received from Eickmeyer [20:02] +1 [20:02]