[00:20] I'm back [00:21] SnoopyDoggy: Do you have an Ubuntu support question? [00:31] How to turn on hibernate option with cryptswap? [00:34] pragmaticenigma, nope, [00:34] SnoopyDoggy, you might be back, but from when? [00:34] just a hello to the chat [00:34] Tin_man, from biking lol [00:34] SnoopyDoggy: this isn't a chat channel. Please go to #ubuntu-offtopic for discussion and general chat [00:35] pragmaticenigma, i know relax === Butterfly^ is now known as Guest2379 === Tara_j is now known as Tara === LabMonkey is now known as Mechanismus [01:28] Happy Saturday and Sunday everyone! I was wondering if it´s possible to have the installer install an additional package during installation of the Ubuntu 18.04 desktop. Is that possible? [02:20] what is the default x session in ubuntu, I'm trying to vnc into a raspberry pi [02:24] Something1, to include an additional package, or script to download it would cause checksums to be invalid, so you'd be spinning your own ISO and no longer be using an official Ubuntu. I'm aware of lots of scripts that do this (created by distros based on Ubuntu usually) - but I suspect it's not what you are after... === semeion is now known as mnemonic [02:34] guiverc, ah not what I am after no. Thanks for the information though. I was looking to include zstd into the installed system so I could use it right away with the btrfs compression. Now I have to reboot first [02:58] howdy ho [03:01] good morning JPSman [03:01] what can we do for you? [03:05] Do you happen to know the packing efficiency of hyperspheres in 9 dimensions? :OP [03:05] Nothing :) [03:06] A hypersphere is a 4D object, so in any dimension higher than that, packing efficiency is 100% [03:07] * Kwizats shuts up and returns to the topic at hand - silence [03:10] Kwizats, :OP [03:11] Kwizats, hyperspheres also refer to spheres in higher dimensions :OP [03:15] i'm tryng create a bootable usb uefi but my bios don't recognize it [03:15] dd just write and ignore efi partitition [03:17] Lord_British: are you trying to singleboot or dualboot ubuntu? [03:18] singleboot live ubuntu [03:18] Lord_British: did you disable fastboot & secureboot? [03:19] yes === capella|away is now known as capella [04:15] Has anyone here ever used autofs === Dreaman is now known as BgLamersTeam [05:07] if i delete something from a drive that is not the OS drive, either a share or other internal(mounted) drive, does it like copy over to my OS drives trash? [05:38] How come I am not able to play some html5 or flash videos in opera? [05:45] madLyfe, i think it depends on how deleted; as I'm usually at bash/cli, I have no safety net beyond my backups (where applicable). if using gui file manager, some of my shares have trash, yet other file.managers do not use trash (which could be my config/setup; I've never explored as I prefer term anyway) [05:47] ya it seems like the deleted items are sent to trash on my OS drive. at least its shows them there and they appear to take up 'space'. there is a total space of all of the files and where they originated from listed in the file manager. [06:22] R13ose, maybe try #opera [06:23] R13ose, sorry, it's ##opera, but unofficial and about nobody there [06:24] I will [06:25] R13ose, FWIW, flash in 2018 is not a good idea... in general [06:30] JimBuntu: yes I know [07:14] madLyfe: i dont think files you 'trash' are moved around to other file systems. instead, they're placed in /.Trash-$UID on the file system they originate from. what you see on the GUI when you access the trash can is a summary of all accessible file systems and their .Trash's for your uid. [07:16] ("uid" means user id, i.e. what is returned by the "id -u" command) [07:22] tomreyn: that makes sense but it says it's taking up space? it says it's of 'X' size. [07:23] madLyfe, it's taking space 'somewhere' [07:23] madLyfe: the data is still there (where it originated from),so it's still taking up space (there). do you see something which suggests that the space is taken up on the / file system insteat? [07:24] *instead [07:46] can anybody help me every 30 mintues i hear stratching while listening to music can anybody help me im using ubuntu 18.04 and am using clementine i checked the logs ans it said QSocketNotifier: Can only be used with threads started with QThread? [07:49] how/where do I report this error - I've got the live server installer booted now but it should not be going anywhere near my zpool https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/2iT7u9al/2018-09-16%20(2).png [07:51] sshd [07:51] oops, you're not a shell [08:01] voltagex: what was the initial error, when did it occur? [08:02] is this ubuntu live server installer 18.04.0 or 18.04.1? [08:03] 18.04.1 [08:03] tomreyn: after confirming disk partitioning and explicitly setting NOT to touch any zfs related disk [08:03] voltagex: report the bug here ttps://bugs.launchpad.net/subiquity/+filebug [08:04] what logs do I need to pull? [08:04] and how terrified should I be of it saying "wipe superblock" somewhere in that log? [08:06] voltagex: i dont see this message in the partial log you made available so far. depending on how far the installation got, you have the logs either just on the running installer system in /var/logs or also on the installed system at the same location [08:06] tomreyn: have you ever had someone who had scratching noises on ubuntu 18.04? [08:10] gt8ost4l: do you think it's a sound issue, a hdd issue, or something else? [08:11] i checked th elogs [08:11] it says QSocketNotifier: Can only be used with threads started with QThread [08:11] is that it? [08:11] its the software [08:12] or operating system [08:13] voltagex: the actual software showing this error log is probably 'curtin', so you may need to look for a log file which is named liek this. [08:15] gt8ost4l: no idea. this is so vague, it could be anything. does the sound seem to vcome from the sound hip, do you hear it when not playing music, do you hear it when no audio output device is connected? [08:15] do you have other moving parts on this computer? [08:15] hip, -> chip(set) [08:16] like mouse and keyboard? [08:16] sometimes they disconnect if tats qhat you mean [08:17] tomreyn: its a sounds issue i read online with people having problems with alsa [08:17] tomreyn: error happened in "curtin" not "subiquity" [08:18] I'm sorry... is strong language allowed here? [08:18] tomreyn: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/39kshcwsdb/ [08:18] voltagex: right. i'd still file it against subiquity, which is the installer itself, curtin is a subsystem to it. but it's up to you. [08:18] I mean F Linux, serious F it [08:18] sentiment: probably not, what's up? === capella is now known as capella|away [08:18] sentiment: deep breath and describe your issue, someone may be able to help [08:19] after one week of wondering what the heck is wrong with some sites, and calling the ISP now it became apparent that this messy OS is at fault [08:19] !sound | gt8ost4l [08:19] gt8ost4l: If you're having problems with sound, click the Volume applet, then Sound Preferences, and check your Volume, Hardware, Input, and Output settings. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !players and !mp3. [08:19] some sites refuse to open , unless I turn on the VPN [08:19] !!! [08:20] I mean it's an online learning site, and this is my exam day and I have been fooled for days thinking the issue is on the ISP side [08:20] and guesswhat? it's a LPIC course!!! [08:20] I can't open it. it's exam day, I have Windows though. If this can't be fixed in an hour I will boot up to Windows [08:21] and this is not the first time I have beeb having issues with Ubuntu 16.04 (all linux I suppose) [08:21] how can I tell what the F is wrong with it? [08:21] is it because of IPv6? [08:21] tomreyn: the scretching noises happen after 30 minutes on my hwadphones all the work arounds online didnt help me ! [08:22] sentiment: take the exam now you have a workaround (the VPN), and come back here later when you're more relaxed, please. i'm not yet convinced this is a linux issue, and we could then diagnose it. but this is not the right time. [08:22] this freaking OS has had all sorts of issues with networks from the moment I installed it [08:22] DNS, Ethernetcard, IPv6 whatever [08:23] gt8ost4l: sorry, i wouldn't know how to debug this. make sure you keep watching dmesg (dmesg -w) while it happens and note down the time it occurs and check what's on /var/log/syslog at the time, too. [08:23] tomreyn: I will boot using Windows then. [08:23] I can access the site using my phone (Windows <3 Phone) [08:23] sentiment: whatever works for you. ttyl. [08:24] ok [08:25] tomreyn: what do you mean you cant debug this its a qt script casing this! [08:25] isnt that log example a clue! [08:29] tomreyn: can i pm you i want to send you something for you could get a idea? [08:30] gt8ost4l: no PM please. use a pastebin. i don't see how "QSocketNotifier: Can only be used with threads started with QThread" is related to audio issues. [08:30] its all that showed up in the log [08:30] it happened at 3:35am [08:31] that was when the scratching began [08:32] gt8ost4l: you will need to provide more context if you are hoping to get help here. which "qt script" are you referring to, which log files were you looking at, are the other indications that there is a correlation between this log message and the sound issue other than this message got logged during the same minute the sound issue occurred? which hardware is this? which ubuntu version areoyu running= which kernel? [08:33] typo: "are the other indications" -> "are there other indications" [08:33] tomreyn: bingo you read my mind [08:34] i told everybody it was 18.04.1 [08:35] i checked the log at 335am and thats what it said [08:39] oh yeah the kernel is 4.15.0-34-generic [08:42] not enough info. see if it happens when you don't play music. see if it happens when you play music using a differnt software, such as the default music player in this ubuntu version (i think that's rhythmbox, but i suggest you try to verify this). [08:42] good luck, i'll be back later. [08:44] Who I was talking to? [08:45] I was ranting on about network issues like 15 mins ago [08:46] Hello [08:46] I'm on Winows now, watching the course at the same time. [08:46] Sentiment: What course? [08:47] Just wanted to say now I remember that the issue happened after I apt-get upgraded Ubuntu 16.04 [08:47] Anybody here using Ralink RT3290 wifi card in Ubuntu or any other linux? [08:47] Borw3 Some other guy was answering me. [08:48] Borw3 those cards are ridden with issues, I have another model and had to tinker with configs to get it working smoothly [08:49] tomreyn was it you? [08:49] thanks for your help tomreyn, I'm outta here, IRC hasn't changed in 15 years [08:50] Sentiment: Wow, how did yu tinker? I left Ubuntu after Kernel 4.15.x The wifi strength just dropped heavily, I even tried new Kernel 4.18.x, no avail :(... [08:50] sorry Can't help atm [08:50] Sentiment: Just give me hint bro [08:51] I'm in Windows right now and taking on online course. Can't focus... but what is your problem? [08:52] Sentiment: Ralink rt3290 wifi signal is quite weak in Ubuntu, and the drivers that used to work back in 16.04 won't compile on 18.04 :( [08:53] I think my problem was with my ethernet card, not wifi [08:53] Hi, would someone help me with custom keyboard in 18.04? I created my layout, added it in /usr/share/X11/xkb/rules/evdev.xml, it is visiable and chosen i settings. I'm stuck on getting the Compose button to work. [08:53] Sentiment: Okay man, thanks :D, might I ask what's the course about? I like to learn new staff too :D [08:53] Borw3 nothing else changed? are other devices alright? [08:54] Borw3 it's about administrating Linux. [08:54] Sentiment: Every other thing is okay, but the wifi strength. [08:54] I think there are some courses available on Udemy [08:55] Hello. I updated my computer. Got an error message indicating problem with hard disk(something like, initramfs tried to find swap partition, couldn't find it, then halted startup) [08:55] I fixed this by telling initramfs to not look for swap [08:55] the computer seems to work, but now Dota 2, a video game, runs as if it's not using GPU at all [08:55] In Tweaks, is Compose key = Key to choose the 3rd level? I'm confused if they are to be used in conjunction or if this is one and the same key. [08:56] Also I had to reset some other settings, like, displays were reset [08:56] So basically, to me it seems there are various settings that have been changed as a result of that update, and one of them seems to have to do with GPU not functioning correctly [08:56] Hii [08:57] Borw3 can you move the device near the router? [08:58] see if the signal gets better [08:58] Sentiment: Yeah, it's Laptop, but man, It used to be stronger before :D, works better near the wifi. [08:58] Do you have Windows installed? [08:58] I recently installed Win10 and removed Ubuntu. Now i can't access my remaining two 200gb drives from windows. I can see the partitions in disk check utility. I thinkk the problem has something to do with partition type. [08:58] can you try on Windows? [08:59] Sentiment: Now yes, I am on windows, signal seems better than Ubuntu post 4.4.x kernel :( [08:59] What should i do to bring them back without loosing data and without backing up i.e. I can't delete them which is the only option the disk utility is providing [09:00] Borw3 how much better it is in Windows? look at the % [09:00] Sentiment: 50% better [09:00] oh [09:01] what does iwconfig say? [09:01] But Windows strength use to suck compared to Ubuntu back when it was shipping with 3.x kernel, the wifi drivers then used to compile on it. [09:02] d2r2, i'm assuming partition type is ext4 which you are trying to access? [09:02] If that's the case, then you could just try something like this, right? https://www.howtogeek.com/112888/3-ways-to-access-your-linux-partitions-from-windows/ [09:02] Borw3 try iwconfig command and paste the output [09:02] Sentiment: On Ubuntu: -81db, while before it used to be around -50db which means stronger, back in 3.x kernel days :( [09:03] Jonii yes i think that too. But i am not sure as it is showing blank in partition type column [09:03] aha [09:04] Borw3 tbh, I may have the same issue too. I haven't quite paid attention to the signal strength difference between Ubuntu and Windows [09:04] and it's a Ralink card as well [09:05] I hate it that Linux programs aren't consistent in their usdage of parameters format [09:05] Sentiment: It has become worse with the stock kernel, and the wifi drivers no longer compile on any kernel above 4.4.x.... They comple in 4.4.x but with random kernel panics [09:05] some -- , some -, some nothing [09:06] Basically I believe I'm asking is, if by some weird reset, my computer had its GPU MASSIVELY underclocked or otherwise gimped through some setting change... [09:06] What to do to check if this is the case, and change it back to normal? [09:07] Sentiment: LOL, normally -- is for when you want to type the full word, and - is for short form, then nothing, well those are special cases. [09:07] find is different eg [09:07] GTX Ti 1050 graphics card [09:07] Jonii: Are you playing the game via wine? [09:07] ip to [09:07] I'd need nominal/typical values and ways to check them, and change them [09:07] Borw3: Nope, natively [09:08] I had my FPS go from 120 to 8 [09:08] too* [09:08] Linux needs to standardise their things. :(... A kernel update can brake alot of things. [09:08] break* [09:09] yeah, same problem here [09:09] But I'm pretty sure it's just that I've managed to underclock my computer and I need to fix it [09:09] I updated Ubuntu 16.04 and it fucked up my internet access with some sites [09:09] Like, this seems really likely, but I need help in confirming this diagnosis, and fixing it [09:10] just a simple upgrade, not a version change [09:10] wasted a few days thinking it was the ISP [09:10] Sentiment: :( and Ubuntu is the stable side of linux, what of Arch users xD [09:10] :/ [09:11] Borw3 haha exactly my thoughts [09:11] Jonii: Maybe try choosing a previous kernel, before boot and see if problem still exists [09:12] freedom is a double-edged sword [09:12] Windows isn't open source and free, but it is consistent mostly and supported well. [09:15] Sentiment: There is closed and paid to use Linux OS which still suck even more than Ubuntu, and people pay to use xD....AKA Suse Enterprise Desktop [09:15] Jonii, I followed the tutorial u provided and found that file system for drives is ext3. Now how can I convert it to NTFS as I won't be using Ubuntu anymore [09:16] d2r2: you can't [09:17] you'd have to get the files off, format ntfs, then put them back on [09:17] d2r2: You can't without formatting xD...... You just have to boot Ubuntu from usb/cd then open that partition and copy/paste things back to a windows partition or any thats atleast FAT32 or NTFS [09:18] hot girlies about 35 add me to google hangouts, my e-mail is kristjanrobamolen@gmail.com [09:33] Hello. Can somebody explain me why does Ubuntu 18.04.1 perform so bad on my new laptop? I'm running default ubuntu (gnome) and it is kinda sloppy. My hardware is new, i5-8250U laptop with Radeon 530 graphics. [09:34] Still runs sloppy, what is going on? [09:35] as far as i am aware, there is no need to install any amd drivers as they come out of the box since ubuntu 17.04, so what should i do? [09:38] fath0m, define "sloppy"... any benchmark differences? Have you confirmed the GPU driver is loaded? [09:41] JimBuntu, slow fps, slow animations [09:41] JimBuntu, low* fps, well in hardware listing, TOPAZ gpu is there, which is my amd gpu [09:42] fath0m, what about lsmod, does it list the amd module? [09:42] JimBuntu, amdkfd, amd_iommu_v2, amdgpu [09:43] Ok, that looks right. Thinking... as I don't use 18.04.x [09:43] JimBuntu, which do you use? [09:43] 16.04 [09:43] fath0m, glxinfo | grep evice [09:44] JimBuntu, well it's a dual gpu setup so I gues it might be the problem, but with other distros it seems to be better, I used to use Manjaro, it was quite fast, but I need Ubuntu for development :/ [09:44] JimBuntu, only lists 'Device: Mesa DRI Intel(R) UHD Graphics 620 (Kabylake GT2) (0x5917)' [09:44] fath0m, try with 16.04.x live USB [09:44] fath0m, ruh roh, there is a problem then [09:44] JimBuntu, amd does not seem to be there [09:44] JimBuntu, any ideas? :D [09:45] I'm running multi-gpu, but 16.04... this is yet another reason I refuse to upgrade at the moment... one of about 12 [09:45] JimBuntu, ohh, okay, I might get 16.04 then.. Did it work out of the box? [09:46] fath0m, use 16.04 if you can, still has a couple years of support, more than enough for a dev environment [09:46] JimBuntu, and are you running Intel/Amd [09:46] JimBuntu, I loved unity aswell, so I might use it haha [09:46] fath0m, I had to install the amd drivers, otherwise, yeah [09:46] I am running both Intel + AMD [09:46] JimBuntu, from website or where? [09:46] I installed the AMD drivers from their website... trash, went back and used the official Ubuntu ones, nice now [09:47] JimBuntu, so from repos? [09:47] from apt [09:47] what is the package called? [09:47] I will write it down, so I wouldn't forget, I'll do it today, when I'll have some time :D [09:47] fath0m, You need to determine which package you need... then a simple apt-get install, roughly, there was an added step. I'll see if I can find the instructions, one moment [09:48] JimBuntu, thank you :) [09:48] fath0m, I think these are the official instructions... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/AMD [09:49] That doesn't look familiar though, lemme keep looking [09:49] JimBuntu, yeah, this is old i think :D [09:49] JimBuntu, yeah, 14.04 [09:50] Hmmm. Having trouble finding the exact page I used... this should be a great start though, even references your topaz - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AMDGPU-Driver [09:51] JimBuntu, alright, thank you very much m8 :) [09:51] JimBuntu, I'm really thankful :) Will try this tonight :) [09:51] You are welcome fath0m , keep on keeping on :) [09:52] WHY UBUNTU HATES RALINK 3290 CARDS? [09:52] WHY U HAVE LOW WIFI STRENGTH WITH RT3290?? [09:53] 3290 trash? [09:54] 3290 is trash? [09:54] Borw3, That's what I am wondering... I mean, it is RALINK after all. However, you should be able to get the same level of quality via Ubuntu that you would otherwise get. [09:55] Borw3, Sorry to say, I have no direct experience with this card. A quick google shows that model has had issues for several years though... depending on the computer it came pre-installed in... at one point, someone even made a patch - https://github.com/akshaim/RT3290-BT-Patch [09:57] JimBuntu: For some reason Windows 10 has better support :( [09:58] Borw3, I'm not surprised by Win10 having better hardware support... Ralink really doesn't care very much for the linux community. :-( [09:58] Ralink is from MS's back yard too. [09:59] To be fair, Ralink only makes chipsets... how, exactly, those chipsets are used and abused is up to the board manufacturer. [10:01] Didn't Ralink get baught by Mediatek, and now Mediatek owns about 60% of middle range smart phone chips in market, and they using tech from Ralink, and Android is Linux...So why Linux has shitty support? [10:01] They did get bought by MediaTek nearly 10 years ago [10:02] Android uses the Linux kernel, yes. Android isn't mainline Linux though, lots of changes/customizations. I can't say why the mainline kernel (which Ubuntu uses a modified/approved version of) doesn't support the specific model you have though... that's outside the topic for this channel. You may have more luck in ##linux though [10:02] Or maybe their cards are so proprietary that even the people who buy their chips for their boards are not given the source code to adopt? :( [10:03] Borw3, It's also a bit early for the normal support people in this channel, you may do better in a couple of hours [10:03] Howdy folks [10:03] Borw3, it's up to the people who write the module to decide if they will fully share it :-( [10:04] Hi there, I have a question about Eclipse IDE. It crashes right after starting with "java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: org.eclipse.core.runtime.adaptor.EclipseStarter" errors, there is a bug at https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=891956 . What can I do at this point? Maybe downgrade Eclipse to some version somehow? [10:04] Debian bug 891956 in eclipse "eclipse no starting -ClassNotFoundException: org.eclipse.core.runtime.adaptor.EclipseStarter" [Critical,Open] [10:06] Borw3, https://askubuntu.com/questions/778553/ralink-rt3290-driver-module-not-launching-and-i-cant-figure-out-why ? [10:10] furaidi: which ubuntu version are you running, which JRE? [10:11] and how did you install eclipse [10:14] Hi i have a old laptop, what is a nice ubuntu disto with leighwith version ? GUI needed [10:14] funabashi - describe "old", like spec-wise [10:15] tomreyn: i copied /etc/pulse/default.pa to config/pulse and the result was that it didnt work since it didnt show the scroller! [10:15] QBRT, Qbert, now THAT is old. Good on you for the name! [10:16] gt8ost4l: i dont know why you're telling me this? [10:17] tomreyn: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1017529/etc-pulse-default-pa-permbashission-denied [10:17] gt8ost4l: this doesn't answer my question. [10:18] look at it throughroly [10:18] what do you see [10:19] gt8ost4l: i can't help you right now, good luck. [10:19] Odd [10:19] yesterday ubuntu booted just fine from recovery mode into normal mode [10:19] now it doesnt [10:20] stuck on Starting Manager, install and Generate Color Profiles. [10:20] QBRT: HP Compaq Business Notebook nx7010 - 15.4" - Pentium M 725 - Win XP Pro - 512 MB RAM - 4 [10:21] However the kernel works [10:21] as soon as I press the power button in this stuck state [10:21] it initiates a shutdown and I can see the messages in the output [10:23] anyone tried building bionic with vmbuilder? [10:24] ghost64, mucking about with pulseaudio conf file isn't necessary, usually alsamixer and pavucontrol settings are all that's needed [10:25] JimBuntu, thanks I guess^^ [10:25] funabashi - ever tried Xubuntu? [10:27] I've followed a guide to set up ftp, however when I try to add a newly created user to the user list I fail to log into ftp with this user. This is the guide except that i hardcoded this line local_root=/home/viktor/ftp because i want them both to use same root folder https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-set-up-vsftpd-for-a-user-s-directory-on-ubuntu-16-04 === evilnewbie is now known as beaver [10:27] Any ideas what might have gone wrong? [10:28] archhere1ic do you get any error messages upon login [10:28] The second user doesnt have its own home dir so I havent tested to remove the hard coding [10:28] 331 Please specify the password. [10:28] Password: [10:28] 530 Login incorrect. [10:29] archhere1ic: have you considered a different protocol than ftp? a secure / current one? [10:29] yes normally Id prefer something else, but im helpin someone with a wordpress site [10:29] check if the users are allowed to access the local_root directory [10:29] if I use a random username I will never be prompted for a åasword [10:30] maybe try logging on in the shell with that user first to see if the user is properly set up [10:30] dr-xr-xr-x 3 nobody nogroup 4096 Sep 16 06:57 ftp [10:31] ftp here is /home/viktor/ftp [10:31] so ls -la only gives back "nobody"? [10:33] dr-xr-xr-x 3 nobody nogroup 4096 Sep 16 06:57 ftp [10:33] this was run from the second user [10:33] try again chown [10:39] I have a usergroup called wordpress that both are in, tried setting sudo chown andre:wordpress /home/viktor/ftp [10:40] tomreyn - Eclipse installed thry Synaptic (as usual for me), Ubuntu 18.04, default-jre-1.10-63 [10:40] andre is the second user. I can still ftp in with viktor, but i get the same password error with andre, and yes I just tested sudo wit [10:40] i just tested sudo with andre,and the password works there [10:42] made andre sudo to be sure that he didnt miss system priveleges, so this feels weird indeed [10:42] andre@ubuntu-2gb-fra1-01:/home/viktor$ cat /etc/vsftpd.userlist [10:42] viktor [10:42] andre [10:43] restarted the service multiple times [10:44] furaidi: make sure you use an older JRE, try openjdk-8-jre [10:45] Very odd [10:46] tomreyn: is that mean, that Eclipse is not comportable with openjdk-11? [10:46] it just simply refuses to boot now [10:46] can anyone recommend a passwordmanager? [10:46] furaidi: i doubt it is. [10:47] tomreyn: ok, thanks [10:47] I'll try [10:48] ppf: keepassxc [10:49] tomreyn: i find the keepass/keepassx/keepassxc bit quite confusing [10:49] doesn't build trust [10:49] furaidi: JDK 11 is not even officially out yet, best stick with 8, or go to 10, if you want to be on edge. [10:49] ppf: you mean the fact that there are different variants of it? [10:50] forks maintained by different people, yeah [10:50] ppf: to me, it suggests a certain popularity. [10:50] best way to kill a project is to fork it [10:51] I have another question. I noticed that fglrx is not present in new ubuntu distros, how can I increase performance like before, cause radeon drivers still sucks (fglrx ~360fps/radeon ~59fps) [10:52] And I can't use amdgpu-pro [10:52] ppf: other times it's a good way to keep it going. in the past, different variants of the software were developed for different platforms (read operating systems) which had to be maintained seperately. now there's a cross platform one, to me this seems more manageable and more maintainable. obviously there are other options if you prefer those. [10:52] AMD APU A-8 4500M with Radeon HD 7640G [10:53] furaidi: 59 fps suggests vsync is in effect. [10:53] how can I turn it off? [10:54] tomreyn: so which one should i pick? XC? why this one specifically? [10:54] I should check the smart data [10:54] see if the HDD might be failing [10:55] vblank_mode=0 glxgears [10:55] furaidi: ^ [10:55] https://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/ConfigurationOptions/ [10:56] that was useful, man. Thanks a lot) [10:56] ppf: because it's cross platform, active development, has the best chances of survival IMO. but dont trust me, instead you should compare the source code repositories of the various packages. [10:58] furaidi: welcome. check also this, there are some great features hidden on this page: https://www.mesa3d.org/envvars.html [10:58] e.g. GALLIUM_HUD [10:58] MESA_GL_VERSION_OVERRIDE [10:59] ok [10:59] LIBGL_SHOW_FPS [10:59] ...and a couple more [11:00] hi [11:00] hi [11:00] boritek: siza [11:00] i mean szia [11:00] tomreyn: where can I do changes constantly, from starting system? [11:01] I have tearing in Ubuntu 18.04 while video playback, I tried everything i found on the net to fix this, but nothing worked. (i do not have any optimus gfx, but a dedicated GTX 770). However I have just found out that that is no tearing in Ubuntu session only in gnome-session [11:01] furaidi: system wide: /etc/environment or within your user scope: ~/.profile or ~/.bashrc (read the comments on top of these files) [11:02] tomreyn: szia :) [11:02] sry in ubuntu session I meant: Unity session [11:02] it works there fine [11:03] why is there a different with gnome-session? [11:03] hi ubuntu people! [11:03] i guess it is a vsync problem, but vblanc is set in nvidia-settings [11:03] does anyone know how to create a compiz-like 3k cube effect on ubuntu 18.04? [11:03] but somehow maybe ignored [11:04] Welastevil: i guess it is not possible [11:04] oh no... [11:04] it was my favori feature! [11:04] Welastevil, yeah use kde/plasma [11:04] Welastevil: https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2018/09/wobbly-windows-new-libanimation-linux-library [11:04] somefeatures gonna come back from compiz effects [11:05] really??? let me try! [11:05] but I am also missing the cube :D [11:05] tomreyn: thank a lot, man) [11:05] furaidi: you're welcome. [11:05] Welastevil: it is still under development you better wait a bit until libanimation matures [11:06] ok === schornacht is now known as schornacht_away [11:08] u guys do not have tearing with video playback? [11:08] especially with nvidia binary driver [11:09] it is really frustrating [11:09] watching a movie stuttering every second [11:10] the funny thing i do not see tearing so much in Steam videos... [11:10] and it is also fine in Unity session as described earlier [11:14] I see.... [11:14] its not done yet [11:17] best way to fix the tearing with nvidia in 18.04: https://www.reddit.com/r/linuxquestions/comments/8fb9oj/how_to_fix_screen_tearing_ubuntu_1804_nvidia_390/ [11:21] QBRT: thank you, but the problem is that i do not have optimus but dedicated nvidia card, i tried settings like that, but do not work unfortunately :( [11:24] another funny thing: it happens with almost all video player, smplayer, vlc, totem, but MPV player has no tearing though but only in full screen. Without full screen it has also tearing :D [11:24] wtf? [11:25] did you follow the full guide? [11:27] Can someone tell me how / why ubuntu boots so slowly? https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/R9qH5KGKs3/ === semeion is now known as mnemonic === jstein_ is now known as jstein [11:30] QBRT: yes [11:32] boritek: what version of nvidia are you running? [11:33] i have tried 2 versions as well: the latest 396.54 and also 390 [11:33] neither of them solved the issue [11:34] chaosfisch: this doesn't answer your question, just a side note: swapaccount defaults to 1 according to https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/v4.15/admin-guide/kernel-parameters.html [11:34] boritek: oh, sorry to hear. for me 396 solved any tearing issues on my system [11:34] tomreyn: it did not, so I had to set it to 1. [11:35] interesting, maybe ubuntu changes the default. [11:35] chaosfisch: you can see why it is slow by: systemd-analyze blame [11:35] QBRT: are you using Unity or gnome-session? [11:36] 18.04? [11:36] gnome-session on 18.04 [11:36] but I guess you are on a laptop? [11:36] using 396 for the drivers ppa [11:36] yep on dell xps 15 9570 [11:36]