 is there any lubuntu apps that support bluetooth ?
[01:16] <wxl> is this about lxqt or lxde @ctisme?
 lxqt here
 how to prove im on lxqt btw wxl
[01:18] <wxl> you're not sure if you are? which version of lubuntu are you on? `lsb_release -a`
 oh im on lxqt-session ... :::bash ... $ ps aux | grep lxqt | awk '{print $11}' | grep -v grep ... lxqt-session ... /usr/bin/ssh-agent ... /usr/bin/dbus-launch ... openbox ... pcmanfm-qt ... lxqt-globalkeysd ... lxqt-notificationd ... lxqt-panel ... lxqt-policykit-agent ... lxqt-runner ... lxqt-powermanagement
[01:20] <wxl> and what about lsb_release?
 $ lsb_release -a ... No LSB modules are available. ... Distributor ID: Ubuntu ... Description:    Ubuntu 16.04.5 LTS ... Release:        16.04 ... Codename:       xenial
 how to bash syntax highlight on telegram btw
[01:27] <wxl> @ctisme well that's kind of before lubuntu really started supporting lxqt. in fact, we haven't even released a version with lxqt. that said, bluetooth is really dependent on the kernel, so you've got that covered. beyond that, you need apps to help with setting things up. the standard utilties will work. we haven't necessarily come up with a good qt-specific solution yet.
 noted, for your information ... [253347.385909] usb 3-7: Product: BCM43142A0 ... [253347.385911] usb 3-7: Manufacturer: Broadcom Corp ... [253347.385912] usb 3-7: SerialNumber: 342387E8C4BA ... [253347.494491] Bluetooth: hci0: BCM: chip id 70 ... [253347.510404] Bluetooth: hci0: BCM43142A ... [253347.510410] Bluetooth: hci0: BCM (001.0
 it looks like BT v4.0 ... https://www.broadcom.com/products/wireless/wireless-lan-bluetooth/bcm43142
[01:43] <wxl> @ctisme broadcom is always a problem. might want to head over to #ubuntu and get more eyes on the probelm as this should not be lubuntu specific especially when you have errors from the kernel
 noted
 is #ubuntu on telegram channel too?
[01:44] <wxl> not that i'm aware of
[01:44] <wxl> but you could easily get there with matrix
[01:47] <wxl>  /la
[01:48] <wxl> oops
 @wxl [<wxl> but you could easily get there with matrix], is this what you mean https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix.to
[02:58] <wxl> @ctisme i mean you can use that. basically you use some matrix app to join #freenode_#ubuntu:matrix.org
[02:58] <wxl> using matrix.to it would be https://matrix.to/#/#freenode_#ubuntu:matrix.org … but you still need to have a matrix app installed
[03:22] <nurupo> the alternate download is 715MiB, my CD-R disk's capacity is 702MiB so K3b can't burn it as it doesn't fit... is this some kind of a joke?
[03:23] <nurupo> that's lubuntu-18.04-alternate-i386.iso
[03:24] <nurupo> need to install that on a 20 year old PC that can only read CDs, no DVD reader
[03:24] <nurupo> but the freaking image doesn't fit on CD :\
[03:27] <nurupo> hm, looks like ubuntu also has 715MiB isos
[03:29]  * nurupo tries using another blank disk
[03:30] <wxl> nurupo: net install
[03:31] <nurupo> that one too is 702.8 MiB
[03:31] <wxl> heh
[03:31] <ball> I miss the days when I used to carry a NetBSD install on an 8cm CD
[03:31] <ball> What was that, 128 MB?
[03:31] <wxl> CDs have gotten to the point where they're basically unusable for most distros
[03:31] <wxl> or rather distros have gotten to that point
[03:32] <wxl> no USB on this thing?
[03:32] <ball> Does Lubuntu fit on an 8cm DVD-R? :-)
[03:32] <nurupo> i think it has usb 1 or something
[03:32] <nurupo> i don't have any usb drives though
[03:33] <wxl> those are surprisingly cheap
[03:33] <ball> Some older machines, even if they have USB ports, can't necessarily boot from them.
[03:33] <ball> (also some newer machines {grumble})
[03:33] <nurupo> so, you are sugesting ubuntu netinst and then install lxqt-desktop package or something?
[03:34] <nurupo> does ubuntu even have netinst images?
[03:34] <wxl> well 18.04 isn't lxqt
[03:34] <wxl> yup
[03:35] <wxl> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/AdvancedMethods
[03:36] <nurupo> so 18.04 will always use lxde?
[03:37] <wxl> yup
[03:37] <nurupo> sounds good
[03:37] <nurupo> i'm installing that for an elderly person, wouldn't want to surprise them with a DE update :D
[03:38] <ball> I resemble that remark.
[03:38] <nurupo> what's the lxde desktop tasksel package?
[03:39] <wxl> lubuntu-desktop
[03:39] <wxl> well, that's lubuntu at least
[03:40] <nurupo> does `aptitude install ~t^desktop$ ~t^lubuntu-desktop$ ~t^standard$` sound good?
[03:40] <wxl> don't use aptitude, sorry
[03:57] <ball> Are "apt" and "aptitude" related?
[03:58] <wxl> yeah. everything's basically a dpkg frontend
[03:59] <ball> Is aptitude graphical?
[03:59] <ball> ...or just a different set of commands?
[03:59] <wxl> no. it's a TUI (text user interface)
[03:59] <ball> Ah, something like curses?
[03:59] <wxl> yep
[04:00]  * ball is aware of curses.
[04:01] <wxl> https://wiki.debian.org/Aptitude
[04:01] <wxl> what about poxes?
[04:05] <nurupo> that aptitude command was adapted from how i usually install my Debian system. it sounds like just `apt install lubuntu-desktop` would be enough on Ubuntu though
[04:07] <nurupo> can't really test though, the pc has no internet connection yet, would need to carry the pc and the giant CRT monitor to the router to plug it into ethernet first
[04:07] <ball> That's why PCs should have 9" b&w CRTs built in. ;-)
[04:08] <nurupo> the monitor is as heavy if not more than the pc itself
[04:09] <ball> b&w monitors tended to be lighter than colour ones.
[04:09] <ball> ...though once you got up to 19" they were still nontrivial to move about.
[04:09]  * ball suddenly remembers the Wyse 700
[04:10] <ball> That was a b&w monitor with a colour CRT in it.
[04:10] <ball> Damn weirdos.
[04:11] <krytarik> nurupo: https://askubuntu.com/questions/252056/should-i-use-tasksel-tasks-in-apt-or-install-regular-metapackages - might find this useful.
[04:13] <ball> I should give up and turn in.
[04:13] <ball> Goodnight everyone.
[18:57] <remzalp> hi! lximage in default settings has in menu black text ob black background. Error?
[18:58] <remzalp> * black on black
[23:24] <Wafficus> Hi guys, how do I install fonts in Lubuntu?
[23:24] <Wafficus> I'm trying to install the "Ahem" font for an open source project
[23:26] <wxl> there's a bunch of font packages but if you have a specific font, you should be able to throw them into ~/.local/share/fonts and then rebuild the font cache with `fc-cache -f -v`
[23:26] <wxl> `fc-list` will give you a list of installed fonts if you want to be extra sure
[23:26] <Wafficus> oh wait
[23:26] <Wafficus> I can just use the package manager right, wxl?
[23:26] <Wafficus> I should have thought about that ha
[23:26] <wxl> IF the font is in there
[23:26] <Wafficus> thanks I'll try that first
[23:26] <Wafficus> true
[23:26] <Wafficus> lets see if it is before I have to compile it myself lol
[23:27] <wxl> Wafficus: our most urgent things are here https://phab.lubuntu.me/T53
[23:27] <Wafficus> thanks for the right direction, will stay on here. Btw lemme know what beginner type cases you need help on since I'm home from work and have free time
[23:27] <Wafficus> thanks Wxl :)
[23:27] <wxl> if you don't mind delving into Qt/C++, you might try the "additional drivers" business
[23:27] <wxl> moving this to -devel btw
[23:27] <Wafficus> ok