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| mup | PR core18#67 closed: hooks: add ping <Created by mvo5> <Merged by sil2100> <https://github.com/snapcore/core18/pull/67> | 08:15 |
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| ahasenack | hi, is awk supposed to be in the core snap? | 08:48 |
| ahasenack | I started getting this error today: | 08:48 |
| ahasenack | 09/17/2018 05:44:20 - ERROR:stderr: /snap/git-ubuntu/433/usr/share/quilt/push: line 306: awk: command not found | 08:48 |
| ahasenack | my core snap was updated 5 days ago, and I haven't used the laptop since then (was on pto) | 08:48 |
| ahasenack | or maybe this is related to snapd's update regarding the PATH issue from last week? | 08:49 |
| mup | PR snapcraft#2277 opened: snap: move to a newer pysha3 <Created by sergiusens> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/2277> | 09:34 |
| jamesh | ahasenack: git-ubuntu is a classic snap, so it may be relying on utilities on the host system | 09:40 |
| jamesh | awk is definitely in the core snap, but /usr/bin won't be from core for classic snaps | 09:40 |
| jamesh | and looking at the core snap, /snap/core/current/usr/bin/awk is an absolute symlink, so won't resolve if the snap adds /snap/core/current/usr/bin to $PATH | 09:42 |
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| sergiusens | Wimpress: how's the sprint? | 10:32 |
| Wimpress | All good | 10:33 |
| ads20000 | popey: quick idea, does the snap-advocacy-bot thingy update snap dependencies automatically? If so: 1. That's really really cool!!! 2. Where's the code and could you guys make it a service for other snaps to use? | 11:19 |
| ads20000 | *non-snapcrafters snaps | 11:19 |
| ahasenack | jamesh: thanks. Trying to track what changed, since the git-ubuntu snap didn't (afaik) | 11:27 |
| jamesh | ahasenack: looking at the git-ubuntu snap.yaml, it is definitely adding /snap/core/current/usr/bin to $PATH | 11:29 |
| jamesh | ahasenack: so if I had to guess, the usr/bin/awk symlink has changed from relative to absolute | 11:30 |
| jamesh | ahasenack: I suspect https://github.com/snapcore/core/pull/93 is the cuprit | 11:31 |
| jamesh | culprit, even | 11:31 |
| mup | PR core#93: hooks: unwind /etc/alternatives <Created by mvo5> <Merged by mvo5> <https://github.com/snapcore/core/pull/93> | 11:31 |
| ahasenack | rbasak: ^ | 11:32 |
| rbasak | jamesh: that sounds likely. I'm happy to fix the git-ubuntu snap as needed, but isn't it a problem that changes in the core snap regress existing classic snaps like this? | 11:35 |
| jamesh | rbasak: I don't think it is a problem with the git-ubuntu snap | 11:35 |
| rbasak | Oh, I misunderstood. You think it could be a core snap regression then? | 11:36 |
| jamesh | rbasak: yeah. Ideally all these symlinks should be relative so they point at the same thing whether in strict or classic confinement | 11:38 |
| rbasak | OK, thanks | 11:39 |
| popey | ads20000: it is just a shell script that touches a file which triggers a rebuild. It's not that clever :D | 11:42 |
| mborzecki | cachio: https://api.travis-ci.org/v3/job/428160334/log.txt | 11:44 |
| popey | ads20000: the goal was to trigger a rebuild of every single snap in snapcrafters to review what's broken | 11:45 |
| rbasak | Is there a reliable way for me to detect inside the code in a part whether snapcraft is running (eg. by it calling setup.py) or if I'm running in production? | 11:59 |
| rbasak | I was using $SNAP but that only worked with the deb, and I suspect it has stopped working with the latest snapcraft in Xenial. | 12:00 |
| rbasak | This is for a workaround for a bug, so some kind of temporary hack will also do. | 12:00 |
| popey | rbasak: to detect if you're currently building via snapcraft? There are various $SNAPCRAFT_ environment variables that only exist during the snap build in snapcraft | 12:18 |
| popey | e.g. $SNAPCRAFT_PART_INSTALL | 12:19 |
| rbasak | That sounds like it'll do. Thanks! | 12:20 |
| cachio | mborzecki, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/PHhq2ZpMH7/ | 12:22 |
| ads20000 | popey: oh I see... fair enough! :) | 12:25 |
| jamesh | popey: is SNAPCRAFT_PART_INSTALL actually set in the environment? I thought they just expanded it in the scriptlet | 12:27 |
| popey | oh, one for @sergiusens | 12:28 |
| ogra | there are other vars though | 12:29 |
| ogra | thresh, yo ... i noticed that vlc can not access any avahi exported resources (namely i run various webcams around my house and while i can open them in a browser, the vlc snap does not resolve .local names at all) | 12:34 |
| ogra | opeing them via IP works fine ... | 12:34 |
| ogra | probably just adding the "avahi-observe" plug would just be enough ... not sure ... | 12:35 |
| thresh | possibly | 12:37 |
| thresh | if you could test that I'd be grateful | 12:37 |
| ogra | if you can provide a snap with it enabled (in edge or so) i'll happily test | 12:41 |
| thresh | let me fire the build then | 12:47 |
| thresh | ogra, you're on stable right, so 3.0.4? | 12:48 |
| mup | PR snapd#5835 opened: tests: find snaps just for edge and beta channels <Created by sergiocazzolato> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/5835> | 12:59 |
| ogra | thresh, yep | 13:01 |
| mup | PR snapd#5827 closed: ifacestate/autoconnect: do not self-conflict on setup-profiles if core-phase-2 <Created by stolowski> <Merged by mvo5> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/5827> | 13:14 |
| mup | PR snapcraft#2278 opened: snap: pull early <Created by sergiusens> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/2278> | 13:22 |
| kyrofa | Hey Chipaca, what is the core snap release process? Does snapd master land anywhere that it can be used? | 13:29 |
| ogra | there is a PPA | 13:29 |
| thresh | ogra, it's in beta, #583 | 13:30 |
| mup | PR #583: interfaces: support permanent security snippets <Created by zyga> <Merged by zyga> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/583> | 13:30 |
| ogra | kyrofa, does https://launchpad.net/~snappy-dev/+archive/ubuntu/edge help ? | 13:30 |
| kyrofa | ogra, I should have just asked that second question: how can I test out a feature in snapd that hasn't yet been released? | 13:30 |
| ogra | kyrofa, ah, just the edge core snap then | 13:30 |
| ogra | that should always have a daily build of master | 13:31 |
| kyrofa | Oh, that's what I thought, but a feature seems to be missing. Maybe it's my problem | 13:31 |
| ogra | (though dont ask me how that works for core18 ... ) | 13:31 |
| thresh | it also seems vlc from the store is missing a camera autoconnect | 13:32 |
| ogra | well ... not sure if i'd like it to do that on my system | 13:33 |
| kyrofa | ogra, it seems edge core contains 2.35.2 | 13:33 |
| ogra | so manual seems fine | 13:33 |
| kyrofa | (unless that version is hard-coded) | 13:33 |
| popey | jdstrand: did something change in mksquashfs overnight? I have a snap which grew 5.5MB, but contents are same from yesterday to today. | 13:33 |
| ogra | kyrofa, ah, i think mvo overrides it when he does a release, normally you have dailies from master though | 13:33 |
| ogra | popey, debug symbols ? (check the sizes of the binaries if you have yesterdays build around) | 13:35 |
| popey | the contents are the same | 13:35 |
| popey | only the snap grew overnight | 13:35 |
| kyrofa | ogra, are you in brussels? | 13:36 |
| ogra | kyrofa, nope | 13:37 |
| ogra | 250km east :) | 13:37 |
| kyrofa | :( | 13:37 |
| kyrofa | Well drive over here already | 13:37 |
| ogra | haha | 13:37 |
| ogra | thresh, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/NQbtcQ9wGC/ ... sadly the interface isnt enough ... i guess it'd also need a client lib or some such | 13:39 |
| ogra | IP works fine ... | 13:39 |
| ogra | $ vlc http://192.168.2.59:8080/?action=stream | 13:39 |
| ogra | VLC media player 3.0.5 Vetinari (revision 3.0.4-20-g7df06c6) | 13:39 |
| ogra | [0000000000d5f3b0] main libvlc: VLC wird mit dem Standard-Interface ausgeführt. Benutzen Sie 'cvlc', um VLC ohne Interface zu verwenden. | 13:39 |
| ogra | (the UI pops up after that line) | 13:39 |
| popey | Do you have network-bind? | 13:42 |
| ogra | yeah, vlc has that by default | 13:42 |
| ogra | (and it is auto-connected) | 13:43 |
| thresh | I think it has the avahi-client lib or somethign | 13:44 |
| thresh | I mean the discovery works so | 13:44 |
| ogra | watching dmesg while it starts up with avahi address only gets me the typical perf denial ... nothing special there | 13:45 |
| ogra | (and using the IP shows the same message ... ) | 13:45 |
| thresh | ogra, do you have avahi-daemon running? | 13:48 |
| thresh | running vlc -vv gives me e.g. "[00007fa7d0d7b530] avahi services discovery: service 'ms' of type '_sftp-ssh._tcp' in domain 'local' port 22 | 13:48 |
| ogra | thresh, locally ? sure, else the browser wouldnt open the url | 13:48 |
| ogra | and the processlist agrees | 13:49 |
| thresh | but it did resolve to an ip address it seems | 13:49 |
| thresh | ogra, can you PM/mail me the output of vlc -vv from your machine so I can compare? | 13:49 |
| thresh | preferably with LC_ALL=C | 13:49 |
| ogra | wow, thats a lot of output ... | 13:51 |
| ogra | https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/yW78Kct79N/ | 13:51 |
| ogra | thresh, ^^^ | 13:51 |
| thresh | oh I should have been more verbose: try accessing the discovered streams as well | 13:52 |
| thresh | ah wait | 13:52 |
| thresh | you're using CLI to actually access them | 13:53 |
| ogra | i can use the UI only but that gets the same result | 13:53 |
| ogra | https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/93nJGhkXHB/ | 13:54 |
| ogra | same thing using the GUI to open the stream URL | 13:55 |
| thresh | you probably used "open network stream"; can you go to the "zeroconf network services" to check if it's there? https://imgur.com/98AKRXp | 13:59 |
| thresh | normally it's nsswitch.conf that's supposed to have mdns4 or somethign similar, I'm not sure how that works in the snapped env | 14:00 |
| ogra | i actually use "open network stream" (is there another way ?) | 14:00 |
| ogra | sorry, i had to change machines now for a meeting ... will take a bit til i get back to the other one | 14:01 |
| thresh | interestingly this "zeroconf network services" works without granting vlc avahi-observe | 14:01 |
| thresh | sure | 14:01 |
| ogra | my typical way is: media -> open network stream -> pick (former) URL from the pulldown | 14:02 |
| ogra | i normally use the minimal interface and no playlist ... so i never noticed there is that zeroconf list | 14:02 |
| kyrofa | zyga, are you around? | 14:11 |
| mup | PR snapd#5836 opened: tests: try to build cmd/snap for darwin <Created by chipaca> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/5836> | 14:14 |
| Chipaca | kyrofa: in a meeting | 14:21 |
| kyrofa | Chipaca, does snapd actually have a room? | 14:21 |
| Chipaca | kyrofa: yes | 14:22 |
| Chipaca | kyrofa: we are fancy that way | 14:22 |
| kyrofa | It's not on the spreadsheet. Or rather, it is, but it's actually MY room :P | 14:22 |
| Chipaca | kyrofa: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ come up to floor 7. We have cookies. | 14:24 |
| Chipaca | * the cookies are, all of them, lies | 14:24 |
| kyrofa | Nice. Cookies always have butter in them anyway | 14:24 |
| mup | PR snapd#5837 opened: daemon: make error responders not printf when called with 1 argument <Created by chipaca> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/5837> | 14:41 |
| mup | PR snapcraft#2277 closed: snap: move to a newer pysha3 <Created by sergiusens> <Merged by sergiusens> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/2277> | 14:52 |
| mup | PR snapd#5838 opened: many: return real snap name in API response <Created by zyga> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/5838> | 14:56 |
| mup | PR snapd#5839 opened: overlord/state: return latest LastAdded time in WarningsSummary <Created by chipaca> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/5839> | 14:57 |
| ogra | thresh, so looking at the zeroconf stuff, that only opens sftp to act as file server | 15:10 |
| ogra | (back at the other machine) | 15:10 |
| thresh | but they do resolve? | 15:11 |
| thresh | probably via libavahi calls, not system dns resolver | 15:11 |
| ogra | yes, they do resolve and i get a user/password prompt | 15:12 |
| ogra | but i guess thats very specific to the file services bit in the playlist ... wotn affect generic DNS resolution | 15:13 |
| ogra | *wont | 15:13 |
| mup | PR snapcraft#2279 opened: sanity checks: run properly on build VMs <Created by kyrofa> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/2279> | 15:14 |
| thresh | interesting that we only support ftp/sftp/nfs/smb/rtsp published via avahi, and not http | 15:14 |
| ogra | ah, is there a protocol list in the code somewhere ? | 15:14 |
| kyrofa | sergiusens, ^ | 15:15 |
| ogra | perhaps thats the limiting bit | 15:15 |
| thresh | yep https://git.videolan.org/?p=vlc.git;a=blob;f=modules/services_discovery/avahi.c;h=956835dbc1ad2f5376a50e09cf2ce0e934933320;hb=10e610ee2f1f11c6fbc6f723bb52a665010fbeb7#l81 | 15:15 |
| thresh | well, I'm pretty sure vlc wont try avahi-sd when it just gets the http://foo.local/ link | 15:16 |
| ogra | aha | 15:17 |
| ogra | so not actually a snap issue then ... interesting | 15:17 |
| ogra | (funny that i never noticed it before though ... but i really havent) | 15:18 |
| thresh | will a regular system resolver be used for gethostbyname calls in a snap? | 15:18 |
| thresh | I mean, does it respect the system-wide nsswitch magic or core snap has its own copy? | 15:19 |
| ogra | it should through network and network-bind i think | 15:19 |
| ogra | hmm | 15:20 |
| ogra | chromium cant resolve it either | 15:20 |
| ogra | just trying with the chromuim snap here | 15:21 |
| thresh | then I'm a bit buzzled why it works in firefox then | 15:22 |
| ogra | well, not using a FF snap here | 15:22 |
| thresh | my snapped firefox doesnt resolve .local too | 15:22 |
| ogra | but it seems to be a systemic snap issue | 15:22 |
| ogra | yeah | 15:23 |
| thresh | non-snapped ping foo.local works though, so I would say different settings in nsswitch for snaps | 15:23 |
| ogra | aha ... snaps only use https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/nss-resolve.html | 15:25 |
| ogra | so the fact that i'm running 16.04 whihc doesnt use systemd-resolved might also play a role | 15:25 |
| thresh | I'm on debian testing, and I dont have that daemon as well | 15:26 |
| ogra | oh, really ? did debian not switch to it yet ? | 15:26 |
| ogra | 18.04 uses it by default | 15:26 |
| ogra | instead of resolvconf ... | 15:27 |
| ogra | there is definitely nothig in any interface allowing access to nsswitch.conf though | 15:28 |
| ogra | so unless the snap uses systemd's nss resolver .local links wont be resolved anywhere | 15:29 |
| ogra | smells like a bug ... hmm | 15:29 |
| thresh | I've no idea what's the default in debian these days, I try to avoid system-* stuff where possible | 15:29 |
| ogra | thresh, well, not a vlc issue in any case, thanks a lot for your time | 15:30 |
| thresh | no problem at all | 15:30 |
| ogra | (and thanks for vlc ... it is one of my most used snaps !) | 15:30 |
| mwhudson | Chipaca: is created-at from the store v2 api going to get propagated to the snapd v2/find endpoint any time soon? | 15:34 |
| Chipaca | mwhudson: define soon | 15:34 |
| Chipaca | mwhudson: once the search api is also v2, yes | 15:34 |
| Chipaca | mwhudson: otherwise search and info would be too different | 15:34 |
| mwhudson | Chipaca: dunno what i mean by soon really | 15:35 |
| mwhudson | (or any other words at this point of the day) | 15:35 |
| mwhudson | the reason for asking is that i want to show the info in subiquity | 15:35 |
| Chipaca | mwhudson: there's a v2 search session this week | 15:35 |
| mwhudson | which currently just pings v2/find?name=blah | 15:35 |
| Chipaca | mwhudson: be there or be parallelepiped | 15:35 |
| mwhudson | Chipaca: "snap search improvements"? | 15:36 |
| Chipaca | mwhudson: yeh | 15:36 |
| Chipaca | probably | 15:36 |
| * Chipaca looks | 15:36 | |
| Chipaca | mwhudson: yes, that's the one i meant | 15:37 |
| mwhudson | ok | 15:37 |
| mwhudson | i shall consider loitering | 15:37 |
| Chipaca | mwhudson: when you say it pings v2/find, you mean on the store? | 15:39 |
| mwhudson | no | 15:39 |
| thresh | ogra, I wonder if there is any software capable of publishing http streams on avahi | 15:39 |
| mwhudson | on snapd | 15:39 |
| thresh | I'd try that at home | 15:39 |
| mwhudson | sorry, should have said | 15:39 |
| ogra | thresh, well, on a laptop with webcam: snap install mjpg-streamer, edit "DAEMON" from false to true in /var/snap/mjpg-streamer/current/config; snap restart mjpg-streamer ... then it serves on "http://<host>.local:8080/?action=stream" | 15:46 |
| ogra | should theoretically work on any modern lptop | 15:47 |
| ogra | *laptop | 15:47 |
| ogra | oh, i forgot ... snap connect mjpg-streamer:camera ... it doesnt auto-connect | 15:51 |
| thresh | right, thanks! | 15:53 |
| mup | PR snapcraft#2280 opened: Use the better snapcraft.io/account URL <Created by evandandrea> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/2280> | 16:35 |
| mup | PR snapcraft#2276 closed: spread: move legacy wiki tests to spread <Created by sergiusens> <Merged by sergiusens> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/2276> | 16:50 |
| mup | PR snapcraft#2278 closed: snap: pull early <Created by sergiusens> <Merged by sergiusens> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/2278> | 16:50 |
| anarcat | hello | 16:55 |
| anarcat | i'm trying to figure out the history of my firefox snap package | 16:55 |
| anarcat | i'm running 62 now but i seem to recall other versions were installed in the past | 16:55 |
| anarcat | what's the magic command? "snap changes" doesn't yield any output | 16:55 |
| Thesaurus | did they break the icons for gnome-system-monitor and gnome-characters in a recent update? | 17:23 |
| thresh | hmm, seems apt://vlc no longer works as a <a> link to install VLC on Ubuntu Software app anymore, any tips what snapcraft.io app uses? | 18:35 |
| thresh | snap://vlc it seems | 18:41 |
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