| Kilos | hi guys, | 17:26 |
|---|---|---|
| inetpro | good evening | 18:18 |
| pavlushka | inetpro: good evening :) | 18:18 |
| inetpro | oh wow, pavlushka is still alive even :-) | 18:18 |
| inetpro | how are you doing? | 18:19 |
| pavlushka | inetpro: even there was an earthquake? | 18:19 |
| inetpro | nope, you have just been very quiet | 18:19 |
| pavlushka | inetpro: I stopped shaking long before, now I am still. | 18:19 |
| pavlushka | inetpro: https://twitter.com/kokrajhar_town/status/1039782105398427648 | 18:24 |
| pavlushka | happens in every 18 years | 18:26 |
| pavlushka | inetpro: I miss you literally, on irc lately | 18:26 |
| pavlushka | and the people become rare on irc, there must be some explanation, may be chesedo can explain it. | 18:27 |
| pavlushka | If I am not wrong, he published a statistical study in Ubuntu may be? | 18:28 |
| inetpro | I guess it's partly due to extra functionality that is offered by other clients like slack, mattermost and such | 18:31 |
| inetpro | simple things like responding to a conversation so you can see the thread in full context | 18:34 |
| pavlushka | inetpro: you worked with mattermost server? | 18:34 |
| inetpro | I have a local gitlab installation at the office with mattermost for real-time chat | 18:36 |
| inetpro | I'm also on the ZATech team on slack, though not always very active there | 18:40 |
| inetpro | another small nicety with both slack and mattermost is that you simply press the up key to edit and correct your last posting | 18:41 |
| inetpro | I still wish we could do that with twitter, even if the edit function is only available for a few minutes after a posting | 18:50 |
| pavlushka | cool | 18:55 |
| pavlushka | inetpro: seen maaz or QA? | 18:58 |
| inetpro | oh my, no | 18:58 |
| inetpro | not sure whether we still need those anymore | 18:59 |
| pavlushka | inetpro: why? are those resource heavy? or the meeting thing is over? | 19:00 |
| pavlushka | inetpro: not attacking, not personal, so it appears like no community, no new peeps, no passing on! | 19:01 |
| inetpro | exactly, we simply don't have the users coming here these days | 19:01 |
| inetpro | sad but true | 19:02 |
| pavlushka | inetpro: I recollect your taking a meeting chair silently and later I missed almost every meetings miraculously | 19:02 |
| inetpro | way too many distractions | 19:03 |
| inetpro | maybe superfly's fault as well :-) | 19:05 |
| inetpro | him and other peeps now using debian more than ubuntu | 19:06 |
| inetpro | I should perhaps also migrate to debian | 19:07 |
| pavlushka | power cut | 19:10 |
| pavlushka | So the user cacooncrunch is gone with his bot, that is maaz. | 19:11 |
| inetpro | pavlushka: yep, I guess he gave up on irc | 19:24 |
| pavlushka | inetpro: that was supposed to happen someday but there is no replacement, that's the feature deprecation. | 19:26 |
| pavlushka | inetpro: but hey, its not over yet :) | 19:26 |
| pavlushka | may be someday someone will provide one. You never know and me too. | 19:27 |
| pavlushka | again | 19:27 |
| pavlushka | may be irc is just on low tide. | 19:28 |
| inetpro | maybe | 19:36 |
| superfly | inetpro: it's always my fault | 19:54 |
| inetpro | haha :-) | 19:55 |
| inetpro | superfly: glad that you are still lurking here at least | 19:56 |
| superfly | folks tend to be on here during my work hours, so I don't get to chat | 19:56 |
| inetpro | you mean on other freenode channels? | 19:58 |
| inetpro | superfly: while you are here, you mind explaining something for me | 20:01 |
| inetpro | how do packages from repositories in debian eventually land on debian? | 20:01 |
| inetpro | I'm specifically looking at something like ovirt-guest-agent at the moment | 20:02 |
| inetpro | https://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=sourcenames&keywords=ovirt-guest-agent | 20:02 |
| inetpro | with our recent upgrade of ovirt to v4.2 the guest agent is no longer working | 20:03 |
| superfly | Packages get built and then uploaded, usually to unstable. After 10 days or 2 weeks of no issues, those packages get automatically migrated to testing. Once every two years, all the packages in testing are migrated into stable and a release is made. | 20:03 |
| inetpro | using it as was explained at https://lists.ovirt.org/pipermail/users/2016-May/039736.html | 20:04 |
| superfly | The maintainers of the package will do the building and uploading | 20:04 |
| * inetpro should perhaps have a chat with Vinzenz Feenstra | 20:04 | |
| superfly | Totally. Send him an e-mail, I'm pretty sure he'll be happy to help out. I'd say a good 90% of Red Hatters are very friendly and helpful. Probably more, but I gotta be conservative ;-) | 20:05 |
| superfly | inetpro: that post is from 2016 though | 20:05 |
| superfly | inetpro: so things could have changed since then | 20:06 |
| inetpro | the version on his repo is at 1.0.11.3 | 20:06 |
| superfly | right, I see. | 20:06 |
| superfly | inetpro: what is the problem you're having? | 20:06 |
| inetpro | see: http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/evilissimo:/ubuntu:/16.04/xUbuntu_16.04/ | 20:06 |
| inetpro | superfly: I see the version on the debain repositories goes up to 1.0.13 | 20:07 |
| inetpro | debian* | 20:07 |
| superfly | yep, in unstrable and testing | 20:08 |
| superfly | s/unstrable/unstable/ | 20:08 |
| inetpro | I'm assuming that even v1.0.12.2 would perhaps work better for us | 20:09 |
| superfly | inetpro: what are you running it on? | 20:09 |
| inetpro | we're still running Ubuntu 16.04 server | 20:10 |
| superfly | inetpro: The package doesn't seem to depend on particular versions of anything, you can try downloading it and installing it. https://packages.debian.org/sid/all/ovirt-guest-agent/download | 20:11 |
| inetpro | will have to start testing 18.04 asap | 20:11 |
| superfly | It's always a good idea to start testing as soon as the first point release comes out. | 20:12 |
| inetpro | superfly: thanks for the suggestion, I'll try that asap in the morning | 20:13 |
| superfly | inetpro: sudo dpkg -i <file> | 20:13 |
| inetpro | yeah that makes sense | 20:13 |
| superfly | then run sudo apt -f install afterward to make sure it has everything | 20:13 |
| inetpro | good point, thanks for that as well | 20:14 |
| inetpro | info about the guest agent (just FYI): https://www.ovirt.org/documentation/internal/guest-agent/understanding-guest-agents-and-other-tools/ | 20:18 |
| inetpro | documentation needs a bit of updating as well, as usual | 20:21 |
| inetpro | How to install the guest agent in Ubuntu: https://www.ovirt.org/documentation/how-to/guest-agent/install-the-guest-agent-in-ubuntu/ | 20:21 |
| pavlushka | Good night Za | 20:21 |
| inetpro | good night pav[tab]... oops, too late | 20:22 |
| inetpro | superfly: the new version doesn't actually fix the issues I'm having | 20:59 |
| superfly | inetpro: perhaps the more pertinent question to ask then is, "what issues are you having?" | 20:59 |
| inetpro | well, a little research takes me to the heart of it with the following reference | 21:00 |
| inetpro | https://lists.ovirt.org/pipermail/users/2018-January/086101.html | 21:00 |
| superfly | inetpro: are you seeing the same issues? | 21:05 |
| superfly | inetpro: and did you look at the bug in Red Hat's bugzilla? | 21:06 |
| inetpro | by the looks the message above basically summarises the fix, but I just did that and the service is still not starting... but I'm still trying to figure out why | 21:07 |
| inetpro | got it running now | 21:09 |
| inetpro | after doing apt install ovirt-guest-agent --reinstall | 21:10 |
| superfly | hrm, perhaps it was a config problem | 21:10 |
| inetpro | thanks for the help | 21:11 |
| inetpro | will have to check it out on a clean install and then figure how I can automate the base install going forward | 21:12 |
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