[03:25] <xref> is launchpad down? didn't see anything on the twitter status feed
[03:32] <wxl> xref: looking like it's working here
[03:32] <xref> sweet looks like it's back, for me and downdetector, thanks wxl
[03:32] <wxl> heh np
[09:10] <LyzardKing> Hi! I have a problem with a build on launchpad. On cosmic I get an error, while the previous releases work. The error is - E:Not locked
[09:10] <LyzardKing> - Subprocess output: debconf: DbDriver "passwords" warning: could not open /var/cache/debconf/passwords.dat: Permission denied
[09:10] <LyzardKing> - debconf: delaying package configuration, since apt-utils is not installed
[09:11] <LyzardKing> This is the full log: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/389273210/buildlog_ubuntu-cosmic-amd64.ubuntu-make_18.05+201809191700~ubuntu18.10.1_BUILDING.txt.gz
[09:16] <cjwatson> That doesn't sound Launchpad-specific - have you tried reproducing it in a local sbuild instance?
[09:18] <cjwatson> Builds don't have root, so your test must be doing something fiddly to run in an environment where it can test package installs, and probably something around that has changed subtly; but it would be a change in Ubuntu rather than a change in Launchpad
[09:23] <alkisg> Hi, did I file this in the correct place? I still can't delete that repository of mine... https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/1793266
[09:25] <cjwatson> You did but that doesn't necessarily mean we can respond instantly :)
[09:26] <cjwatson> Need to think about how to deal with it - it's not straightforward
[09:27] <alkisg> cjwatson: thanks, there's no hurry at all, I was just wondering if I made a mistake (I remembered something about filing bugs against soyuz in the past...)
[09:27] <cjwatson> no, it's in the right place.  soyuz bugs were merged into launchpad many years ago
[09:27] <alkisg> Great
[09:27] <cjwatson> (and that wouldn't have been soyuz anyway)
[09:27] <Fudge> hey guys how we doing
[09:28] <Fudge> cjwatson:  do you have time at the moment to answer a couple of questions, I am very noob and trying to pick up a dev project so trying to get head around live-build and bzr
[09:29] <Fudge> if you're busy happy to get a time that may be more suitable
[09:29] <cjwatson> I don't generally respond to open-ended things where I don't know how much time they're going to take
[09:29] <Fudge> ahahah wise man
[09:29] <cjwatson> But you can always ask questions and if I or anyone else has time and knows the answer then we can answer
[09:30] <cjwatson> live-build is complicated; while I've built a number of things on it, I can't do general support for it
[09:30] <cjwatson> I might happen to know specific things
[09:30] <Fudge> i'll try to be specific then, how does a bzr branch for ubuntu seeds intergrate with live-build, is it a reference to the branch or do I need to pull the scripts in the lb directory strucutre somewhere?
[09:31] <cjwatson> livecd-rootfs deals with that kind of thing
[09:32] <cjwatson> it points germinate at a mirror of the relevant seeds, but anything that you can pass to germinate's -S option in the relevant network environment would work
[09:33] <Fudge> ah right that helps, i'm using the BuildLiveCD script from livecd-rootfs
[09:33] <cjwatson> good lord
[09:33] <cjwatson> that was obsoleted years ago
[09:33] <Fudge> unfortunately im the only one in our project willing to keep dev going and i dont know much, you may recall Luke has finished up with all opensource I believe
[09:34] <cjwatson> the modern scheme is as described in https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2011-June/033458.html
[09:34] <Fudge> oh thanks heaps
[09:38] <LyzardKing> cjwatson: thanks. I'll try running it manually on cosmic. Probably a live vm could be easy to test on..
[09:41] <Fudge> what a cool release name lol
[09:43] <cjwatson> LyzardKing: If your host system is Debian or Ubuntu, then I'd strongly recommend https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SimpleSbuild - a VM is overkill
[09:44] <cjwatson> Bit of learning but it's pretty easy once set up
[09:49] <LyzardKing> I'm running ubuntu bionic... I can't figure out how to install things in the chroot..
[09:50] <LyzardKing> I'd need to install the dependencies on the cosmic schroot
[09:53] <LyzardKing> I followed the instructions on the wiki, but if I try to apt update or install I get: E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13: Permission denied)
[09:58] <cjwatson> LyzardKing: sbuild installs build-deps automatically
[09:59] <cjwatson> LyzardKing: if you're using schroot by hand, then you'd need to use -u root in order to become root inside the chroot
[09:59] <cjwatson> you'll probably need to read some docs
[09:59] <LyzardKing> Ok. I'm testing now with root.
[10:08] <acheronuk> issue with git webhooks again?
[10:40] <cjwatson> acheronuk: not that I can see?
[10:42] <cjwatson> hmm!  maybe.
[10:42] <cjwatson> will check shortly.
[10:44] <acheronuk> cjwatson: looks like the 2 which seemed to hang completed in the end. just slow enough that I thought things might have broken again
[12:21] <Spads> my recipe build doesn't seem to be pulling dependencies from the PPA I'm uploading to.  Either that or I'm missing something painfully obvious
[12:23] <cjwatson> linky?
[12:23] <Spads> https://code.launchpad.net/~canonical-bootstack/+archive/ubuntu/thruk?field.series_filter=bionic and https://code.launchpad.net/~canonical-bootstack/+archive/ubuntu/thruk/+recipebuild/1960626
[12:24] <Spads> oh
[12:24] <Spads> is this the ~ being negative version value hitting me?
[12:25] <Spads> I bet it is
[12:25] <cjwatson> it's not *that* negative
[12:25] <cjwatson> $ dpkg --compare-versions 2.22-0~201808281956~ubuntu18.04.1 ge 2.20; echo $?
[12:25] <cjwatson> 0
[12:26] <Spads> hm
[12:26] <cjwatson> oh, but that's a different build
[12:26] <cjwatson> yes, it is
[12:26] <Spads> aha
[12:26] <Spads> yeah
[12:26] <Spads> ok I'll just bump that then!
[12:26] <cjwatson> $ dpkg --compare-versions 2.20-0~201802010857~ubuntu18.04.1 ge 2.20; echo $?
[12:26] <cjwatson> 1
[12:27] <Spads> nice
[12:49] <Spads> $ dpkg --compare-versions 2.20-2~2383823 ge 2.20;echo $?
[12:49] <Spads> 0
[12:49] <Spads> so why does that fail now
[12:50] <Spads> https://code.launchpad.net/~canonical-bootstack/+archive/ubuntu/thruk/+packages?field.name_filter=&field.status_filter=published&field.series_filter=bionic and https://code.launchpad.net/~canonical-bootstack/+archive/ubuntu/thruk/+recipebuild/1960646
[12:53]  * Spads just hacks versions simpler
[12:59] <cjwatson> Spads: It hasn't built yet
[13:01] <Spads> well
[13:01] <Spads> the one I had pinned my hopes on had published already
[13:09] <Spads> https://code.launchpad.net/~canonical-bootstack/+archive/ubuntu/thruk/+recipebuild/1960659 <-- I honestly expected that one to work
[13:11] <cjwatson> http://ppa.launchpad.net/canonical-bootstack/thruk/ubuntu/pool/main/libt/libthruk/ has no .debs for bionic with a sufficient version
[13:11] <Spads> hmmm
[13:11] <cjwatson> it's published the source but not the binaries
[13:12] <cjwatson> since it has not built the binaries: https://code.launchpad.net/~canonical-bootstack/+archive/ubuntu/thruk/+build/15472109
[13:12] <Spads> ahhhh
[13:12] <Spads> details!
[13:13] <Spads> thanks, that makes sense to me now
[13:21] <cjwatson> np
[19:42] <gQuigs> added bug per full changelogs - https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/1793587   do let me know if I missed anything obvious