[00:05] <leosemilie> How to unlock dpkg resources? E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[00:06] <xamithan> Wait for the auto updator to finish
[00:06] <leosemilie> It looks like something trashed the ubuntu system where it doesn't shutdown right or hibernate.
[00:07] <leosemilie> xamithan: It doesn't look like the suto updater is on
[00:08] <xamithan> does apt show up under a ps aux ?
[00:12] <leosemilie> ;yeah a systemd daily
[00:12] <leosemilie> it looks gone now
[00:13] <leosemilie> no
[00:13] <leosemilie> └─ $ ▶ watch 'ps aux | grep apt'
[00:13] <xamithan> Well it should work then
[00:14] <xamithan> If not you'll have to delete the lock files
[00:14] <leosemilie> it shows without watch: root      4510  0.0  0.0   2368   580 ?        Ss   19:06   0:00 /bin/sh /usr/lib/apt/apt.systemd.daily install
[00:15] <xamithan> Ok so it is running
[00:15] <xamithan> sudo kill -9 4510; sudo apt update
[00:16] <leosemilie> those things hang
[00:17] <leosemilie> as if the os is only a surface session
[00:17] <leosemilie> it worked xamithan
[00:17] <BloopMonsterOMG> in #weechat
[00:18] <BloopMonsterOMG> Ah! Now I'm trying to set up things in a tmux session on my Raspberry Pi, and I seem to be stuck in what the docs say is bare layout -- just one big window.  I can't find yet how to switch it to the standard layout
[00:18] <BloopMonsterOMG> Alt+F1 takes me back to my freenode window
[00:18] <leosemilie> xamithan: doing well so far how about hibernate is there some way to make hibernate work
[00:19] <BloopMonsterOMG> And this is the wrong channel... yep... this i snot #weechat.  That is why this is super lame
[00:19] <BloopMonsterOMG> ^ sorry
[00:20] <xamithan> Hibernate is strange because you need a certain amount of swap and sometimes proper driver support
[00:20] <leosemilie> yeah it has a cryptswap larger than ram
[00:20] <NewToLubuntu> would anyone know if there's a way on lubuntu to have 2 rows of tabs or to un-collapse multiple windows by default?
[00:20] <leosemilie> what is the driver support?
[00:20] <NewToLubuntu> clicking back to pidgin or to a folder is a 2 step process and I don't like it
[00:21] <leosemilie> 2.1GB swap active
[00:23] <xamithan> So you got encrypted swap ?
[00:23] <leosemilie> yeah confirmed 2,003.4 MB total ram and a bigger swap
[00:23] <xamithan> Can't use hibernate with encrypted swap
[00:23] <leosemilie> xamithan: yeah cryptswap
[00:23] <xamithan> Thats your problem
[00:24] <leosemilie> /dev/mapper/cryptswap1
[00:24] <leosemilie> then hibernate is not a secure option if it passes out of my hands during hibernation
[00:24] <help_ubuntu> Hi, I just found a usb stick, made it bootable for 18.04, it boots but when I click 'Install Ubuntu' it doesn't find my current installation??
[00:24] <leosemilie> all security is gone after a ram dump
[00:25] <help_ubuntu> I need to get my files back..
[00:25] <leosemilie> once the ram is dumped everything is trashed
[00:25] <leosemilie> all security happens in the ram
[00:25] <xamithan> Yeah hibernate is definitely not something you want to be using if you need security
[00:26] <leosemilie> ok forget it then
[00:26] <help_ubuntu> can somebody help me?
[00:27] <xamithan> Try a recovery option on the liveusb
[00:27] <xamithan> It should try to chroot mount your current partitions if they are there
[00:27] <leosemilie> xamithan: which pgp app is ubuntu using now anything which secures a ramdisk for operation?
[00:28] <help_ubuntu> xamithan: you talking to me?
[00:28] <xamithan> Yeah help_ubuntu
[00:28] <leosemilie> if the key is lost the ramdisk can be a secure environment while running until reboot
[00:28] <help_ubuntu> xamithan: I should pick 'try ubuntu without installing' or just 'install ubuntu' at grub menu
[00:28] <help_ubuntu> I picked the first one at first
[00:30] <help_ubuntu> ok I clicked install ubuntu now..
[00:30] <xamithan> Thats the only two options you got ?
[00:30] <xamithan> It should have "Recover a broken system"
[00:30] <help_ubuntu> no also OEM
[00:32] <leosemilie> xamithan: do you use pgp
[00:32] <xamithan> Only on my desktop,  which doesn't have ubuntu
[00:32] <xamithan> Don't really care about stuff on my laptop
[00:32] <help_ubuntu> xamithan: 'check disks for defects' also
[00:32] <help_ubuntu> should I pick that?
[00:33] <xamithan> No,  it sounds like you downloaded the wrong image that doesn't have the recovery on it
[00:35] <help_ubuntu> xamithan: just picked the latest LTS version
[00:35] <help_ubuntu> 18.04.1
[00:37] <leosemilie> xamithan: is there a better visualization interface for wireshark
[00:38] <leosemilie> xamithan what are you using on the desktop
[00:44] <help_ubuntu> should I do this? https://linuxconfig.org/ubuntu-boot-repair
[00:55] <hongo2536>  nacc: Just fyi, the issue i was having was related to a $HOME/.themes directory. I removed it, and bam, all the windows are fine now. I just took a guess at the removal, i didn't find anything googling. I don't remember why i needed this themes dir. The history is that i just started working again on a project that i "suspended" a year ago.
[00:58] <effortDee> i cant get steam to work
[00:58] <leosemilie> xamithan: some interface for wireshark which shows continuity of packets
[00:59] <leosemilie> instead of breaking them up into a line by line feed
[00:59] <effortDee> anyone know how to get steam to work?
[01:00] <xamithan> No idea on wireshark,  I don't generally use GUI programs.  Just thinks like Tcpdump
[01:01] <leosemilie> if this were piped into something like xmatrix it'd be great
[01:02] <leosemilie> something which can be made to zoom in and out change focus etc
[01:02] <leosemilie> ;so if there are three lines going of packets it shows the three on screen like a pipe
[01:02] <leosemilie> and clicking on the pipe zooms into only that line
[01:02] <leosemilie> that makes it a useful productive tool
[01:03] <leosemilie> there was etherape
[01:03] <leosemilie> which had a visualization worth using
[01:06] <tgm4883> leosemilie: so use etherape then?
[01:07] <leosemilie> it doesnt show packets does it?
[01:08] <leosemilie> etherape needs to meet wireshark and use something like GLmatrix
[01:09] <tgm4883> IDK, I don't use etherape. Maybe I misunderstood what you were saying
[01:09] <leosemilie> that is the status quo isn't it
[01:10] <tgm4883> misunderstanding what you're saying? I mean maybe. Do people often have trouble understanding you?
[01:10] <leosemilie> misunderatanding
[01:10] <leosemilie> and then continuing on with non-sequitur bot scripts
[01:17] <leosemilie> there is some way to do this
[01:19] <leosemilie> though it is likely to be the apex tool of computer networking
[01:20] <leosemilie> and because the world essentially prostrates itself before the computer nearly the tool to own everything
[01:20] <hggdh> leosemilie: please stay on topic
[01:20] <tgm4883> leosemilie: this isn't really the channel for you to sit here and talk to yourself
[01:21] <leosemilie> ok
[01:41] <pgrytdal> Hello, I could use some assistance getting a Logitech H390 USB headset to work on Ubuntu 18.04
[01:44] <Sven_vB> I got bionic to install the basics, but then Ubiquity crashes: "InstallStepError: Plugin language failed with code 2" – any ideas? https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/w4KdvtsnCv/
[01:53] <dman777> hi, does anyone have a link on how to install compiz fusion on 18.04 lts?
[02:09] <NewToLubuntu> is there a way to make the ubuntu or lubuntu OS read like a mobile device to allow mobile apps to install on it?
[02:10] <leftyfb> NewToLubuntu: That is unsupported here. But you could always google for "run android on ubuntu"
[02:22] <NewToLubuntu> I'm trying to get some kind of free VOIP service, I want a private phone number
[03:32] <tripelb> Hello. I am trying to dualboot windows 10 with ubuntu 16.04 (because I cant find my other usb drives and I despise windows/10 so any ubuntu is good)
[03:34] <Bashing-om> !18.04 | tripelb May as well learn on the current release
[03:35] <tripelb>  May as well as soon as I get ubuntu so I can download 18.04 and then learn how to make the usb and then do that. Even though I cant find mine I have one new one.ho I cant find
[03:36] <Bashing-om> !dualboot | tripelb
[03:37] <tripelb> thanks Bashing-om (youve been around here a long time)
[03:39] <tripelb> then I can ask another question. I have a dongle for a BT logitech kb but when I plug it in this lenovo laptop switches sound to an imaginary bt speakers&microphone. when I reset the sound settings, it resets on reboot.
[03:44] <Bashing-om> tripelb: Sorry, sound issues are not in my tool box :(
[04:27] <tucemiux> !desktops
[04:29] <tucemiux> anyone knows how to enable multiple desktops on unity ubuntu?
[04:31] <guiverc> tucemiux, i don't know what you mean by multiple desktops on unity; only one desktop at a time can be used (if excluding virtual machines) - you can install multiple desktops, and select which you use at login, is that what you mean?
[04:31] <tucemiux> guiverc, no i want to have more than one virtual desktop
[04:32] <guiverc> okay, I'm not a unity user (and don't have it installed), if not in settings, try unity-tweak-tool (just a guess)
[04:32] <guiverc> https://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/unity-tweak-tool
[04:35] <tucemiux> ok ill give it a try but the look on my laptop is perfect! I just need more work spaces o.O
[04:40] <kaddi> hi, i'm on ubuntu 18.04. Is there a repository for a newer darktable version?
[04:40] <kaddi> I have a sony camera and that is only supported starting from 2.4.3, ubuntu currnetly comes with vresion 2.4.2
[04:42] <jjayy> hi
[04:42] <jjayy> how r u
[04:42] <kaddi> hi
[04:45] <lotuspsychje> !latest | kaddi
[04:46] <tucemiux> guiverc, i figured it out, its already configured by default, just press ctrl-alt-[up or down arrow], im back in the game !!!
[04:47] <kaddi> @lotuspsychje yeah that's why I was asking if anyone was aware of a repository shipping the newer darktable versions :p
[04:47] <arTee> kaddi, snap has 2.4.4 version
[04:48] <lotuspsychje> kaddi: we try to avoid adding external ppa's as much as possible here mate, as they are a security risk
[04:48] <tucemiux> kaddi, i recommend you download ubuntu studio and install it on a DVD or a USB stick and try it out to see if it has all the features you want out of the box
[04:48] <lotuspsychje> kaddi: (could be)
[04:48] <guiverc> :) tucemiux
[04:49] <kaddi> the thing is that the program is useless to me as is. It's a photo editing program that doesn't work with raw pictures from my camera
[04:49] <kaddi> arTee: thanks I'll take a look :)
[04:50] <ne1> hello
[04:50] <ne1> TIL making an APT repository is really hard: https://github.com/Eloston/ungoogled-chromium/issues/37
[04:50] <ne1> wish the ubuntu team could make the process easier
[04:58] <lotuspsychje> ne1: can you explain your end goal please, what are you trying to do exactly?
[04:58] <ne1> try to get this project put in an apt repo
[04:58] <ne1> ticket was opened for this 2 years ago - still not completed
[05:03] <lotuspsychje> ne1: we try to focus on ubuntu issues here, support for git its best to contact the maintainer of the git itself, or their forums
[05:03] <ne1> ok :/
[05:34] <silv3r_m00n> hi there
[05:34] <silv3r_m00n> i need a simple video editor that can erase some areas of the view and make it white
[05:34] <silv3r_m00n> what is the best video editor for this
[05:38] <Nokaji> silv3r_m00n: kdenlive is popular, no idea if it does what you want
[05:38] <silv3r_m00n> thanks, i will check some videos on youtube
[07:03] <gjaekel> Where to find a documentation of used extended attributes on a Ubuntu standard installation, e.g for /media . I have to restore it because I have a backup made without saving it.
[07:21] <uboa> hi everyone :)
[07:50] <neure> hi
[07:50] <neure> i inserted usb disk but it is not shown anywhere
[07:50] <neure> how do i find it and see if there is anything on it, and / or format it?
[07:51] <neure> gparted does not show the device
[07:51] <neure> lsusb shows the device
[07:51] <neure> I think it could be formatted by my samsung TV
[07:52] <lotus|NUC> neure: open a tail -f /var/log/syslog and unplug, plug back in your usb to see errors
[07:53] <neure> oh actuall gparted does find the device
[07:53] <neure> my mistake
[07:54] <neure> hmm
[07:55] <neure> so the usb stick has ubuntu 16.04 installer on it
[07:55] <neure> when i try to mount it, I get warning that device is write-protected
[07:56] <neure> the stick does not have any physical write protection switch
[09:44] <pantatoe> ive input a kernel parameter that allowed my linux install to boot using a secondary gpu, but once i get past the loading screen my screen goes blank. I can ssh in and make adjustments, and I'm trying to configure xorg to use the secondary gpu but I'm not having any luck. I'm using ubuntu 18.04. Trying to do this for vfio purposes. Any ideas?
[09:52] <lenny_lemon> how can i fix:    malformed entry 52 in list file /etc/apt/sources.list (component)     in ubuntu 16.04 ?
[10:02] <cristian_c> pantatoe: you could look at Xorg.0.log
[10:03] <cristian_c> !paste | lenny_lemon
[10:09] <lenny_lemon> what is it about? that was 1 line ...
[10:09] <pantatoe> cristian_c: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/PrfhdmXs26/ not really sure...
[10:09] <ace_me> hi all ! I jsut added
[10:10] <lenny_lemon> !paste
[10:11] <ace_me> hi all ! I just added */1 * * * * su me -c '/usr/bin/notify-send "Pay Attention to your Eyes and Neck!" "walk a minute..."' >/dev/null 2>&1 but no notification is shwon
[10:11] <lenny_lemon> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/BkQCkqJVP8/
[10:12] <pantatoe> cristian_c: I ran X -configure and I get segmentation fault signal 11
[10:13] <jluc> where did you add that ace_me ?
[10:14] <ace_me> crontab -e jluc
[10:15] <ace_me> however /usr/bin/notify-send "Pay Attention to your Eyes and Neck!" "walk a minute..." works
[10:15] <ace_me> from terminal I mean
[10:16] <ace_me> but I want to make it work from cron
[10:16] <ace_me> I am on ubuntu 18.04
[10:16] <Ben64> pantatoe: you need to set up your passthrough stuff properly
[10:17] <pantatoe> Ben64: it is setup properly. It works just fine when I have the host gpu in the primary slot. But for the way my motherboard is that forces both cards to be in 8x mode. I'm trying to make linux work when I have the host gpu in the 4x pci e slot
[10:17] <Ben64> it isn't set up properly, if it was you wouldn't be having this problem
[10:18] <pantatoe> Ben64: you're not being helpful
[10:18] <pantatoe> Ben64: my passthrough is set up fine. I have all my bases covered except xorg
[10:18] <Ben64> ok, good luck
[10:18] <pantatoe> Ben64: "set up your passthrough properly" doesn't tell me anything
[10:19] <pantatoe> I have all the vfio stuff enabled in the kernel, i have the pci e ids assigned to vfio, i have nvidia blacklisted in systemd
[10:19] <cristian_c> amd + nvidia
[10:20] <pantatoe> Ben64: how am i supposed to believe that I don't have it set up properly when it works in another scenario? I'm trying to make it work in *this scenario*
[10:20] <pantatoe> cristian_c: right. I want to use my nvidia card for the guest (which works with the host gpu in the primary pci e slot)
[10:20] <ace_me> Sep 22 13:20:01 mypc CRON[3259]: pam_unix(cron:session): session opened for user me by (uid=0) jluc
[10:21] <ace_me> maybe su han no rights or so ?
[10:21] <cristian_c> lenny_lemon: paste spurces.list
[10:21] <cristian_c> *sources.list
[10:21] <ace_me> what should I check in order to run a cron command with su successfully ?
[10:21] <ace_me> I just added in cron */1 * * * * su me -c '/usr/bin/notify-send "Pay Attention to your Eyes and Neck!" "walk a minute..."' >/dev/null 2>&1 but no notification is shwon
[10:22] <ace_me> or maybe su is not needed ?
[10:23] <cristian_c> pantatoe: what do you mean when you talk about 'host' and 'guest' gpus?
[10:24] <pantatoe> cristian_c: I'm referring to how I have my GPU passthrough set up
[10:24] <pantatoe> cristian_c: I'm trying to change it
[10:24] <cristian_c> gpu passthrough
[10:24] <lenny_lemon> cristian_c, how can i do that? with nano /etc/apt/sources.list | pastebinit ?
[10:25] <cristian_c> lenny_lemon: also
[10:25] <cristian_c> nano is interactive, btw
[10:25] <cristian_c> lenny_lemon: use cat in placemof nano
[10:25] <cristian_c> *in place of nano
[10:26] <pantatoe> cristian_c: everything works fine if i put my AMD gpu (the gpu I want to use for the linux host) in the primary PCI E slot, and the 980 ti (the gpu I want to use for the windows guest) in the next slot down. But this scenario makes both GPUs run in 8x mode. When I switch the AMD gpu to the 4x slot so my nvidia GPU can run at 16x in the primary slot, ubuntu loads, but things go blank when I get past the loading screen
[10:27] <pantatoe> it's a linux problem, not a vfio problem
[10:27] <cristian_c> pantatoe: oh, you're talking about virtual machine
[10:27] <pantatoe> yeah
[10:28] <cristian_c> I'm not very focused out that, I've tried in past to use audio internal card in virtualbox, using pci passthrough, no success
[10:28] <cristian_c> *about
[10:29] <cristian_c> then, I don't know what virtualization aoftware you're using
[10:29] <lenny_lemon> cristian_c, http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/mfxvrDgW8w/
[10:30] <cristian_c> (I know pci passthroug is possible if host OS and guest OS are both linux)
[10:30] <pantatoe> cristian_c: it works just fine with guest as windows as well. Everything was great with my intel build
[10:30] <pantatoe> cristian_c: i'm using libvirt
[10:32] <cristian_c> lenny_lemon: I think that:
[10:32] <cristian_c> deb http://archive.canonical.com/xenial partner # deb-src http://archive.canonical.com/xenial partner
[10:32] <cristian_c> is malformed
[10:33] <lenny_lemon> cristian_c, what does it mean and how to fix it?
[10:33] <cristian_c> lenny_lemon: btw, partner is already in pkace at line 43
[10:33] <cristian_c> I don't know how you've added line 52
[10:34] <cristian_c> lenny_lemon: just delete line 52 and 53, and decomment line 43
[10:34] <cristian_c> lenny_lemon: opening sources.list by root user
[10:34] <pantatoe> Ben64: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/3dGbzTsMK5/ as you can see here the gpu that i want to use for the guest is bound to the vfio-pci driver while the amd gpu is not
[10:35] <cristian_c> (using sudo, I mean)
[10:35] <pantatoe> Ben64: Care to clue me in on what is "incorrect" about my passthrough setup?
[10:36] <cristian_c> acetakwas: of course, you've tested the notify cokmand by terminal, at first
[10:37] <cristian_c> *ace_me
[10:39] <pokmo> hi
[10:40] <lenny_lemon> cristian_c, works fine ... thanks ...
[10:40] <pokmo> anyone know if the image control settings like exposure available in webcam viewers like guvcview are hardware or software exposure?
[10:41] <jluc> same here about crontab
[10:41] <lenny_lemon> cristian_c, do you suggest any read concern this to understand what does happen?
[10:42] <lenny_lemon> cristian_c, btw in other terminal i ran:   sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list | pastebinit and is still running ... can i just close it or is there safer way to kill the process?
[10:54] <lotus|NUC> pokmo: can apt-cache search v4l2 help?
[10:55] <pokmo> lotus|NUC but that won't tell me if the settings are hardware or software, right?
[10:56] <lotus|NUC> pokmo: those are tools you can install to adjust webcam settings
[10:56] <pokmo> lotus|NUC yes, i'm just using guvcview right now which offers a range of settings, e.g., exposure, gain, saturation, brightness, contrast, etc.
[10:57] <pokmo> but i wonder if these are software manipulations or hardware settings
[10:57] <pokmo> by software manipulations, i mean those offered in photoshop
[10:58] <jcdutton> pokmo, guvcview can only adjust hardware settings
[10:58] <pokmo> jcdutton i see. does it use v4l?
[10:59] <pokmo> but guvcview offers a 'sharpness' setting too
[10:59] <jcdutton> pokmo, it uses the uvc protocol. This is a standard for video over USB
[10:59] <pokmo> what's hardware 'sharpness' though?
[11:00] <jcdutton> pokmo, the webcam itself is exposing the control. How the webcam implements it may be hardware or software.
[11:00] <pokmo> i see
[11:02] <jcdutton> pokmo, sharpness is normally a parameter fed into the format conversion function. I.e. if you take a photo and you get jpeg output. The conversion from hardware to jpeg format will be different depending on the sharpness setting.
[11:04] <jcdutton> pokmo, when going from hardware video capture to the video stream format, there is an algorithm. It has common controls such as resolution, but also others such as compression ration etc.
[11:04] <jcdutton> ratio
[11:05] <pokmo> jcdutton is compression ratio usually exposed?
[11:05] <jcdutton> pokmo, it is normally instead exposed as select average bitrate.
[11:07] <jcdutton> pokmo, so selecting a 12mbps stream will compress less than selecting a 128kbps stream.
[11:07] <pokmo> jcdutton hmm maybe my webcam is too cheap :\
[11:07] <pokmo> jcdutton could it be frame rate?
[11:07] <pokmo> a low frame rate on my webcam seems to give less noise
[11:09] <jcdutton> pokmo, low frame gives less noise because the hardware can average the measurement over a longer period. Low frame rate can also cause more blurring when there is movement in the frame
[11:11] <pokmo> jcdutton right. does that mean a lower fps gives higher exposure? thus, lower noise?
[11:20] <pokmo> jcdutton all good now. thanks!
[11:20] <cristian_c> lenny_lemon: nano is interactive
[11:20] <cristian_c> so you've to kill procrsses pending yet
[11:23] <bavrogar> I am running bionic and I have problems with printing as normal user from a GNOME application (evince, and others). My printer is a printer from HP and the official HP drivers are installed from the repo. As far as I can see, AppArmor is blocking it. I have fiddled around with aa-complain and aa-logprof, but now I am stuck. Any help would be appreciated.
[11:24] <bavrogar> Printing a test page from the CUPS admin website works.
[11:27] <lenny_lemon> chrisml, and how can i find that process ... i try ps, top, htop, pstree but cannot find it ...
[11:27] <lenny_lemon> cristian_c,  and how can i find that process ... i try ps, top, htop, pstree but cannot find it ...
[11:28] <gpunk> ps aux| grep nano
[11:32] <caipiblack> Hi guy's, I currently didn't have APPLE products but I have compatibility questions with linux in 2018. Is it possible for exemple with an Ubuntu to plug the ipad on the computer and open a file browser and add files to the ipad "like a usb key" ?
[11:33] <lotus|NUC> caipiblack: yes, ubuntu will mount Ios devices
[11:33] <lotus|NUC> !iphone | caipiblack
[11:34] <lotus|NUC> caipiblack: some music players will also sync with Ios music like clementine for example
[11:34] <cristian_c> lenny_lemon: btw, you could look also in task manager
[11:34] <caipiblack> Ok because on google I find topics from 2013 where they speaks that you need to use itunes, witch is not supported in linux (of courses) so someones use a VM with Itunes (because on theses post they say that usb doesn't work correctly with wine) but as I say it is from 2013 :D
[11:34] <caipiblack> Thats why i ask it ;D
[11:35] <lotus|NUC> caipiblack: itunes over wine is not ideal, but might work on some versions too
[11:35] <lotus|NUC> caipiblack: you could talk to the wine channel about that
[11:36] <cristian_c> bavrogar: of course, you've already your user to printing related groups
[11:36] <caipiblack> lotus|NUC but when you "mount" the IOS device did you see the filesystem ? Or is it a pseudo filesystem with just 2 folders: "Pictures" "Video" where you can't add something else than accepted extensions ?
[11:37] <bavrogar> cristian_c: just for a check, which groups?
[11:37] <lotus|NUC> caipiblack: you can see the filesystem and send/receive files from both ends yes
[11:38] <lotus|NUC> caipiblack: best way to test this, we advice you to try a liveusb 18.04.1 for example, see how it works
[11:39] <bavrogar> cristian_c: my user is a member of the groups lp and lpadmin
[11:39] <cristian_c> ok
[11:40] <GuiLux> hi there
[11:40] <bavrogar> must be sufficient i guess. Also with xenial and 17.10 everything worked
[11:41] <cristian_c> bavrogar: and system-config-printer ahow all the stuff in place, is it?
[11:41] <cristian_c> *shows
[11:42] <bavrogar> cristian_c: system-config-printer shows my printer with a green symbol
[11:43] <cristian_c> I don't know why apparmor is doing this
[11:43] <caipiblack> lotus|NUC in fast I am on 18.04. But I don't have the IOS device Yet. I'm asking theses questions because I don't have buy the device yet
[11:44] <cristian_c> bavrogar: but you could look at journalctl or prin server logfile
[11:44] <bavrogar> cristian_c: the wiki states that the combination apparmor and third_party drivers in cups are not a good combination.
[11:45] <cristian_c> bavrogar: have you already tried  drivers included in ubuntu official repositories?
[11:45] <bavrogar> everything is from the ubuntu repo
[11:45] <cristian_c> rather than hp official website
[11:45] <bavrogar> i have installed hplip from ubuntu repo
[11:46] <cristian_c> ah, ok, sorry
[11:46] <GuiLux> I have a syslog problem, far too much debug incoming into /var/log/syslog. Any audio/video player produces debug about scrobbling, icon cache.. ureadahead produces hundreds of lines...   my setup = ubuntu server 18.04.1 + slim + awesome wm (xorg and nvidia drivers)
[11:46] <cristian_c> so, they are not 'properly' third-party, though they are developer by hplip project
[11:46] <GuiLux> my files /etc/rsyslog.d/50-default.conf   /etc/rsyslog.conf   are the default ones
[11:47] <GuiLux> any help will be appreciated
[11:47] <GuiLux> thx in advance
[11:49] <cristian_c> GuiLux: but ypu aren't experiencing playback issues, is it true?
[11:50] <GuiLux> another thing : my setup is upgraded from 16.04, there I used to have debug in ~/.xsession-errors but now it's empty
[11:50] <GuiLux> hi cristian_c
[11:50] <GuiLux> playback is fine in every player I use
[11:50] <GuiLux> s/every/any/
[11:51] <cristian_c> I don't know why syslog is so spammed by these messages, but it doesn't affect your experience, I think
[11:52] <cristian_c> ah, ok, ypu've to check logfiles for other issues, so you would like a cleaner one
[11:52] <GuiLux> indeed, the only thing that bothers me is that this write over an SSD disk
[11:52] <cristian_c> ypu're right
[11:53] <cristian_c> what video player do you use?
[11:53] <GuiLux> mplayer and vlc
[11:53] <cristian_c> you can change debuglevel in vlc
[11:54] <GuiLux> audio players = vlc, clementine
[11:54] <GuiLux> and mixxx
[11:54] <cristian_c> so, are messages not coming from video players itself?
[11:54] <cristian_c> Themself
[11:54] <GuiLux> video and audio players
[11:56] <GuiLux> and I'd like to understand why ~/.xsession-errors does not receive anything since I've upgraded to 18.04.1
[11:57] <GuiLux> but these are two differents problems
[12:01] <GuiLux> I installed these from their ppa's : mixxx, clementine    from the main repo : vlc, mplayer
[12:02] <GuiLux> my guess is that this could be an X issue rather than rsyslog
[12:06] <ioria> GuiLux, good question; i think it's not used anymore (despite  grep ERRFILE  /etc/X11/Xsession) and journald is used instead ... but i ' am still searching
[12:09] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:11] <GuiLux> thx ioria you inspired me another set of checks
[12:12] <ioria> GuiLux, ok
[12:14] <ioria> GuiLux, du -sh /var/log/journal/   will tell the folder size (is huge, you might have a problem)ù
[12:14] <ioria>  
[12:14] <delsen> hi peoples
[12:14] <delsen> hope you are all good
[12:15] <delsen> maybe someone could help? my ubuntu, fresh installed with mate and compiz, using the xorg driver, not nvidia, suddenly doesn't recognise my monitor and start with minimal resolution
[12:16] <delsen> and i can't edit the xorg.conf anymore right...i'm new again with ubuntu...using it again since some years :)
[12:17] <ioria> GuiLux,   https://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2016-May/msg00015.html
[12:17] <delsen> recognize
[12:20] <atm0sphere1> Evereytime i am getting an error /msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER atm0sphere1 xbhzkzvmyagk
[12:20] <GuiLux> sorry, i'm a bit slow, having lunch   :)
[12:21] <atm0sphere1> You might want to run 'apt --fix-broken install' to correct these.
[12:21] <atm0sphere1> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[12:21] <atm0sphere1>  linux-headers-4.15.0-34-generic : Depends: linux-headers-4.15.0-34 but it is not installed
[12:21] <atm0sphere1> E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt --fix-broken install' with no packages (or specify a solution).
[12:21] <coconut> !paste
[12:21] <atm0sphere1> any idea how to fix abhove problrm
[12:21] <atm0sphere1> This is in ubnut 18.04 LTS
[12:21] <GuiLux> well ioria  that's nearly 500MB for /var/log/journal
[12:23] <ioria> GuiLux,   you can trim it (sudo journalctl --vacuum-time=2d); but first check the info you're looking for
[12:25] <GuiLux> waiting for the coffee for that   thx for your help
[12:25] <ioria> no prob
[12:32] <atm0sphere1> any idea how to fix https://imgur.com/a/yq05FgW
[12:33] <atm0sphere1> there is an error which is creating an issue for docker too
[12:33] <atm0sphere1> don't know how to fix the package
[12:36] <Dbugger> Does anybody know why my gnome extensions always give me an ERROR when I try to update them?
[12:36] <Dbugger> I am using the browser extensions for that
[12:39] <ioria> atm0sphere1, and have you tried  what suggested : apt-get --fix-broken install
[12:40] <atm0sphere1> ioria, yes, did that
[12:40] <slivera> hey guys, just got a question about setting a start up command to run a command with a datadir in my storage (e.g. /dev/sdb1) - on start up I get an error that the directory couldn't be found. Can anyone help me understand why this is happening?
[12:40] <ioria> atm0sphere1, and ? same error ?
[12:40] <atm0sphere1> but after that also while doing upgrade it throws same error
[12:41] <ioria> atm0sphere1, your kernel ?  uname -r
[12:42] <melkor> What is the alternative to ifconfig? eg if I wanted to check my local ip address.
[12:42] <GuiLux> ip a
[12:42] <atm0sphere1> ioria, I am using ubuntu 18.04 LTS
[12:42] <ioria> atm0sphere1, yes ... your kernel ?  uname -r
[12:42] <melkor> Thank you.
[12:42] <atm0sphere1> 4.15.0-20-generic
[12:43] <atm0sphere1> ioria, ^^
[12:43] <ioria> atm0sphere1, it's an old one;    sudo apt full-upgrade   and paste the errors
[12:44] <ioria> atm0sphere1, you can use  paste.ubuntu.com  or what you want
[12:45] <atm0sphere1> https://imgur.com/a/2OadPI8  ioria
[12:46] <ioria> atm0sphere1,  sudo apt install pastebinit
[12:47] <atm0sphere1> ioria, what this will do.
[12:47] <atm0sphere1> I did and it throwed the same error
[12:47] <ioria> atm0sphere1,  a pastebini service ; so you can pipe commands outputs
[12:47] <ioria> atm0sphere1,  ah, ok
[12:48] <atm0sphere1> ioria, because of this issue I am unabel to get docker also
[12:48] <ioria> atm0sphere1, 	sudo dpkg --configure -a
[12:50] <atm0sphere1> ioria, it is giving error dpkg: error processing package linux-generic (--configure):
[12:50] <atm0sphere1> and its multiple times
[12:51] <slivera> I think my problem is something to do with fstab and how my second HDD is mounting (or rather, not mounting until I manually click it), can anyone give me a hand?
[12:51] <ioria> atm0sphere1, dpkg -l | grep linux-header  | nc termbin.com 9999
[12:52] <atm0sphere1> ioria, it gives http://termbin.com/lswj
[12:53] <ioria> atm0sphere1,  sudo dpkg -P linux-headers-4.15.0-34-generic  inux-headers-generic
[12:53] <ioria> atm0sphere1,  sudo dpkg -P linux-headers-4.15.0-34-generic  linux-headers-generic
[12:54] <atm0sphere1> ioria, both the cmds or later one
[12:54] <ioria> atm0sphere1,  on one line
[12:55] <atm0sphere1> ioria, https://imgur.com/a/EAD0lm9
[12:56] <ioria> atm0sphere1,  sudo dpkg -P linux-headers-4.15.0-34-generic  linux-headers-generic  linux-generic
[12:57] <atm0sphere1> ioria, looks like it worked
[12:57] <atm0sphere1> but let me ckeck
[12:58] <ioria> atm0sphere1, sudo apt full-upgrade   and if it fails   sudo  apt-get --fix-broken install
[13:01] <atm0sphere1> ioria, it gives The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
[13:01] <atm0sphere1>   amd64-microcode intel-microcode iucode-tool libboost-program-options1.65.1 libgoogle-perftools4 libpcrecpp0v5 libtcmalloc-minimal4
[13:01] <atm0sphere1>   libyaml-cpp0.5v5 linux-image-generic mongo-tools mongodb-server-core thermald
[13:01] <atm0sphere1> Use 'sudo apt autoremove' to remove them.
[13:01] <atm0sphere1> do i need to auttoremove it
[13:01] <atm0sphere1> ?
[13:02] <ioria> atm0sphere1, we don't care aout autoremove atm, you care about updating kernel  ...
[13:02] <ioria> *about
[13:02] <coconut> atm0sphere1: try to copy and paste on paste.ubuntu.com , try to paste...
[13:03] <ioria> atm0sphere1, sudo apt full-upgrade   and please paste the errors you got
[13:03] <atm0sphere1> ioria, doing
[13:07] <atm0sphere1> ioria, https://imgur.com/a/MsYQNMh
[13:08] <ioria> atm0sphere1, ls /boot | nc termbin.com 9999
[13:09] <atm0sphere1> ioria, http://termbin.com/aquu
[13:10] <ioria> atm0sphere1, looks fine for me ... but i don't get why it wants to remove microcode
[13:10] <atm0sphere1> ioria, if it remove it. Will it create an issue
[13:11] <ioria> atm0sphere1, sudo apt install linux-generic
[13:19] <wudo_honour> hey guys
[13:19] <wudo_honour>  I have found a script in my disk, and I wanan find what program execute the script,
[13:19] <wudo_honour> so  what should I do
[13:20] <atm0sphere1> ioria, sorry, I restarted my system.
[13:20] <atm0sphere1> Was there any msg.
[13:22] <atm0sphere1> when I open  my terminal it always open as /bin/bash  ?
[13:22] <atm0sphere1> any specific reason why its happening. Everytime i need to do ctrl+z
[13:24] <cristian_c> wudo_honour: your disk? Which directory?
[13:26] <wudo_honour> I mean this have any script which be execute , So I wanan follow this ,found out which program execute the script
[13:27] <atm0sphere1> ioria, +1
[13:29] <cristian_c> wudo_honour: do you mean ubuntu filesystem?
[13:31] <wudo_honour> do you know the pid and ppid ?  pid and port ?
[13:35] <delsen> ok nice, i helped myself simpl installing the nvidia drivers, thanks for nothing bye
[14:07] <ioria> atm0sphere1, are you back ?
[14:10] <pk_> hi
[14:12] <cristian_c> hi
[14:14] <cristian_c> I've got rtl8188etv wifi card (using r8188eu driver). I've made several tests but when I try it on an amd ryzen machine using 18.04, system freezes/crashes
[14:15] <cristian_c> I've tried also on different machines/OSes and it never makes system freezing/crashing (intel platforms)
[14:15] <cristian_c> I've tried also an old kubuntu 17.04 with kernel 4.11 on ryzen machine and it doesn't crashes when I try to use that wifi card, but if I inatall the recent kerbel, it doesn't appear in grub
[14:17] <pragmaticenigma> cristian_c: how are you installing a recent kernel in 17.04? 17.04 is EOL and isn't supported any more, there are no kernels built for it. If you are looking to downgrade, go to 16.04 in install !hwe
[14:17] <cristian_c> so, I've tried to re-install 18.04 in ryzen. The machine doesn't freezes using that wifi card in live mode (dvd), with kerbel 4.15.0,
[14:17] <cristian_c> but if, after installed, I upgrade to a recebt kerbel, system freezes when trying to make connection
[14:17] <cristian_c> pragmaticenigma: ubuntu kernel mainline
[14:18] <cristian_c> !kernel
[14:18] <pragmaticenigma> cristian_c: 17.04 is end of like... there are no kernels being built for it. even mainline. You have to use a supported version of Ubuntu
[14:18] <cristian_c> pragmaticenigma: there is a kernel deb store (updated)
[14:19] <pragmaticenigma> cristian_c: 3rd party ppa's and software are not supported, especially the kernels
[14:19] <robb> Hello, I have 3 hard drives in my ubuntu server 18.04. I have two volume groups. One of the volume groups I want to delete, but when I run vgreduce, I get Physical volume "/dev/sdb" still in use. How do I stop it or unmount it so that I can move it to my ubuntu-vg?
[14:19] <cristian_c> pragmaticenigma: I've tested 17.04 in order to test the wifi card
[14:19] <cristian_c> as told at fist
[14:19] <cristian_c> *first
[14:19] <pragmaticenigma> cristian_c: It's not a good test case
[14:19] <cristian_c> I've downloaded kernel debs, of cpurse
[14:19] <cristian_c> *of course
[14:20] <cristian_c> pragmaticenigma: as told before, I tested several machines/releases
[14:20] <cristian_c> and different kernels, too
[14:20] <ioria> cristian_c, you mean that it freezes only on a  4.15.0-34 kernel ?
[14:20] <cristian_c> in order to underatand why wifi card make syatem crashing in 18.04 on ryzen
[14:21] <cristian_c> ioria: no, I've noticed it freezes juat on ryzen with 4.19 but also 4.18.8 (stable)
[14:21] <cristian_c> if I try 4.15.0-20 in 18.04 live mode, it doesn't freezes the system
[14:22] <pragmaticenigma> cristian_c: here's what I'm going to suggest, as I think you've been here for the past week about this problem, If the wifi card doesn't want to work, then you should consider finding a supported card that does work without issue. there are plenty out there and they don't cost a lot of money.
[14:22] <cristian_c> but system freezes at boot time, before 4.19 kernels
[14:22] <cristian_c> just, after grub
[14:22] <cristian_c> 4.19 solves the boot process, in older kernels nomodeset is needed
[14:23] <pragmaticenigma> cristian_c: if you haven't solved it with this channels help by now, you've had a very good chance of exhausting every resource here that would have any ideas for you
[14:23] <leftyfb> cristian_c: whats the issue with using 4.19 if that works for you?
[14:23] <cristian_c> pragmaticenigma: I don't know why but system doesn't freeze on 16.04 and 18.04 on intel machine
[14:24] <cristian_c> leftyfb: 4.19 solves the crash at boot issue, but if I connect the wifi card and make a connection, system hangs
[14:24] <cristian_c> that didn't happen on older kernels
[14:25] <leftyfb> cristian_c: file a bug
[14:25] <cristian_c> except 4.18.8 for what system freezes in a similar manner
[14:25] <pragmaticenigma> !details | robb, how are the drive configured in the current volume group?
[14:25] <cristian_c> leftyfb: ok, but bug against what package
[14:26] <atm0sphere1> ioria, yes, I am back
[14:26] <leftyfb> cristian_c: maybe just ubuntu in general to start. Maybe the latest 4.15 kernel
[14:26] <cristian_c> I don't know if there is an issue with kernel, network manager, wpa_supplicant, or toher packages
[14:26] <ioria> atm0sphere1, ok...  uname -r ?
[14:26] <leftyfb> cristian_c: I'd start with the kernel
[14:26] <leftyfb> cristian_c: the rest won't cause the system to freeze
[14:26] <cristian_c> ok
[14:27] <atm0sphere1> ioria, 4.15.0-34-generic
[14:27] <atm0sphere1> ioria, is that latest?
[14:28] <cristian_c> leftyfb: do you mean about desktop freeze, btw?
[14:28] <ioria> atm0sphere1, yep, it's ok    dpkg -l | grep microcode | nc termbin.com 9999
[14:28] <cristian_c> leftyfb: I mean filing a bug about desktop freeze?
[14:29] <robb> pragmaticenigma: how can I check? I am using LVM2
[14:29] <atm0sphere1> ioria, http://termbin.com/ppji
[14:29] <leftyfb> cristian_c: I mean, file a big against the kernel since that would more likely be the problem causing the crashing. A lack of or incorrect driver module or something
[14:29] <ioria> atm0sphere1, ok... if you run  sudo apt-full upgrade do you still get 'autoremove' message ?
[14:30] <cristian_c> leftyfb: ok, but deskrop doesn't crashes using 4.15
[14:30] <leftyfb> cristian_c: but the driver for the wireless is built in
[14:30] <cristian_c> (os crashes during boot, issue fixed since 4.19)
[14:30] <leftyfb> cristian_c: if the problem is with another package, one of the developers will move your bug to the appropriare package if necessary
[14:31] <atm0sphere1> ioria, yes
[14:31] <cristian_c> leftyfb: yeah, but you're talking about wifi card related crash, that doesn't happen in 4.15
[14:31] <atm0sphere1> ioria, should i run autoremove cmd ?
[14:32] <leftyfb> cristian_c: ok, then don't do anything. That'll certainly get things resolved for you.
[14:32] <cristian_c> and 4.19 is not official yet
[14:32] <FortKnight> lol
[14:32] <cristian_c> leftyfb: I don't underatand
[14:32] <ioria> atm0sphere1,  wait ....   sudo apt install --reinstall intel-microcode
[14:32] <leftyfb> cristian_c: file a bug against the 4.15 kernel. Go
[14:33] <cristian_c> leftyfb: ok, when I file the bug against 4.15, what have I to put in the description?
[14:33] <pragmaticenigma> robb: didn't you set them up? how do you not know your disk layout?
[14:33] <leftyfb> !bug | cristian_c
[14:34] <cristian_c> leftyfb: I mean abput the issue, not related abput how tp do that, btw
[14:34] <atm0sphere1> ioria, did, but again after doing full upgrade same notification
[14:34] <leftyfb> cristian_c: put everything you've tried and know
[14:34] <ioria> atm0sphere1,  sudo apt install  linux-generic
[14:35] <robb> pragmaticenigma: honestly I just ran the installer and hit next untill it worked.... the volume Im having trouble with was set up on a previous version  of ubuntu on this server that I set up 2 years ago when it was 16
[14:35] <pragmaticenigma> cristian_c: make your best attempt, and everything you told us here... when someone responds they will tell you additional information they need.
[14:36] <atm0sphere1> ioria, here theres an error
[14:36] <ioria> atm0sphere1,  please, paste it
[14:36] <cristian_c> pragmaticenigma: the issue is: leftyfb suggests me to file a bug against 4.15, but that bug doesn't happen in 4.15
[14:36] <atm0sphere1> ioria, https://imgur.com/a/HbiBhTC
[14:36] <cristian_c> pragmaticenigma: so, I wonder if this way is lgit in launchpad
[14:36] <cristian_c> *legit
[14:36] <pragmaticenigma> cristian_c: oh, just go and file the report... if it isn't someone will tell you that too
[14:37] <cristian_c> (if I file a bug for a version different than the one triggers the bug)
[14:38] <cristian_c> ok, I'll do so (I'm a bit shocked btw)
[14:38] <ioria> atm0sphere1,  do you really get those artifacts or is  a pasting issue ?
[14:38] <atm0sphere1> no I am getting those ioria
[14:38] <atm0sphere1> ioria, i am pasting by taking screenshot
[14:39] <NewToLubuntu> these 4 desktops lubuntu comes with seem potentially very useful, but sort of throw you for a loop when you start using the OS and have no idea they're there until you accidentally switch between them
[14:39] <ioria> yep, never seen , looks like a corruption
[14:39] <NewToLubuntu> like moving a window around, drag one too far to the side of the screen, suddenly can't view 2 windows together anymore
[14:40] <help_ubuntu> Hey, I can't open my encrypted home folder on a live usb.. I have this issue, but the solution doesn't work for me https://askubuntu.com/questions/659242/problem-with-ecryptfs-recover-private-mount2-failed
[14:40] <ioria> atm0sphere1,   dpkg -l | grep linux- | nc termbin.com 9999
[14:41] <atm0sphere1> ioria, I was getting same generaic pacange msising
[14:41] <pragmaticenigma> cristian_c: if you haven't figured it out yet... you've been walked through nearly every known step (i've gone and read all the logs for the past week involving you.) to figure out a remedy for this issue. It appears you have litterally exhausted nearly everyone's knowledge on the topic. There is nothing to be shocked about, Bugs happen, and the only way to get them addressed is to file a bug report. Clearly something has
[14:41] <pragmaticenigma> been fixed if the latest unreleased kernel fixes the problem, it's just a matter of time when it will be ported into the older kernels. To help speed that process along, those teams need the bug report.
[14:41] <ioria> atm0sphere1,   dpkg -l | grep linux- | nc termbin.com 9999
[14:41] <atm0sphere1> again i run sudo dpkg -P linux-headers-4.15.0-34-generic  linux-headers-generic  linux-generic
[14:41] <help_ubuntu> My machine is completely broken after upgrading to 18.04 and I'm trying to get my data back with a live usb install
[14:41] <help_ubuntu> can somebody help me please?
[14:41] <atm0sphere1> ioria, http://termbin.com/d4qg
[14:42] <cristian_c> pragmaticenigma: I've asked my question just only two times, yesterday (no response) and wesneday
[14:42] <ioria> atm0sphere1,  did you already run that command  ? yes ?
[14:42] <atm0sphere1> ioria, yes
[14:43] <ioria> atm0sphere1,  run again   sudo apt full-upgrade
[14:43] <atm0sphere1> ioria, did
[14:44] <atm0sphere1> same autoremove thigns are coming
[14:44] <cristian_c> pragmaticenigma: my shock is releated abput filling a bug f0r a version n0t affected by that issue
[14:44] <cristian_c> *related about
[14:44] <ioria> atm0sphere1,  but no  errors, right  ?
[14:44] <atm0sphere1> ioria, yes, no error
[14:44] <pragmaticenigma> cristian_c: You have your options laid out for you. You make the decision, live with it, file the bug report and get better results.
[14:45] <ioria> atm0sphere1,   dpkg -l | grep linux-header   | nc termbin.com 9999
[14:45] <cristian_c> pragmaticenigma: I'll do that because I've  ot other chances, at the moment
[14:45] <cristian_c> *not
[14:45] <pragmaticenigma> cristian_c: and file the bug against the kernel you are using when you experience the issue.
[14:45] <atm0sphere1> ioria, http://termbin.com/x0t0
[14:46] <pragmaticenigma> cristian_c: everything has to start somewhere, but you have to start the process to get moving
[14:46] <NewToLubuntu> I am running Synaptic Package Manager and would like to know if "mesa-utils" seems trustworthy. I was told I could use it to find out more about my graphics processor
[14:46] <cristian_c> pragmaticenigma: ah, so have I to wait 4-19 official release or 18.10?
[14:46] <cristian_c> I dpn't know what kerbel version 18.10 will bring
[14:46] <ioria> atm0sphere1,   apt-cache policy linux-headers-4.15.0-34   | nc termbin.com 9999
[14:47] <cristian_c> pragmaticenigma: maybe, I'll try to get another wifi card, because at the moment I can use it just on windows 10 on that machine
[14:48] <cristian_c> but I'll file a bug against kernel , however
[14:48] <atm0sphere1> ioria, http://termbin.com/y07s
[14:50] <ioria> atm0sphere1,  the point is: you miss the correct headres for your -34 kernel; we need to install them but looks like there some issues
[14:50] <ioria> atm0sphere1,  apt -s install linux-headers-4.15.0-34
[14:51] <atm0sphere1> ioria, did
[14:51] <atm0sphere1> still there are autoremove option
[14:51] <ioria> atm0sphere1,  oh man, ok   run   sudo apt autoremove --purge
[14:55] <help_ubuntu> I really need some assistence, can somebody help me?
[14:56] <atm0sphere1> ioria, did
[14:56] <ioria> atm0sphere1,  run again   sudo apt full-upgrade
[14:56] <atm0sphere1> ioria, did, no error
[14:56] <atm0sphere1> ioria, https://imgur.com/a/FUWr1Y2
[14:57] <ioria> atm0sphere1,  sudo apt  install linux-headers-4.15.0-34 linux-headers-4.15.0-34-generic
[14:58] <atm0sphere1> ioria, https://imgur.com/a/ETv3PV5
[14:58] <atm0sphere1> artifacts are again
[14:58] <ioria> again
[14:59] <atm0sphere1> yes
[15:01] <ioria> atm0sphere1,   dpkg -l | grep linux-header   | nc termbin.com 9999
[15:01] <jcdutton> ioria, looks a little broken there
[15:02] <ioria> jcdutton, yep... got ideas ?   fsck or similar  ?
[15:02] <jcdutton> ioria, df  - are any > 80% used
[15:03] <ioria> atm0sphere1,  paste   also   df -h  | nc termbin.com 9999
[15:05] <atm0sphere1> ioria, http://termbin.com/xljw
[15:05] <jcdutton> help_ubuntu, Just ask a question, if someone can help, they will
[15:05] <atm0sphere1> ioria, http://termbin.com/77pl
[15:06] <ioria> atm0sphere1,  sudo dpkg -P linux-headers-4.15.0-34  linux-headers-4.15.0-34-generic
[15:06] <atm0sphere1> ioria, did
[15:07] <atm0sphere1> it says dpkg: warning: ignoring request to remove linux-headers-4.15.0-34 which isn't installed
[15:07] <atm0sphere1> (Reading database ... 161725 files and directories currently installed.)
[15:07] <atm0sphere1> Removing linux-headers-4.15.0-34-generic (4.15.0-34.37) ...
[15:07] <ioria> atm0sphere1,  it's ok
[15:07] <jcdutton> atm0sphere1, how did you cause your problem ?
[15:07] <ioria> atm0sphere1,  sudo apt update && saudo apt full-upgrade
[15:07] <atm0sphere1> jcdutton, i installed 18.04 then after I am getting
[15:08] <ioria> atm0sphere1,  sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade
[15:08] <atm0sphere1> ioria, did
[15:09] <atm0sphere1> it went well. but I am afraid it will pop up again
[15:09] <ioria> atm0sphere1,  what will pop up again?
[15:09] <atm0sphere1> same header pacakge missing error
[15:10] <ioria> atm0sphere1,  do this; reboot -> grub -> advanced options -> fsck
[15:10] <ioria> brb in 10 min
[15:10] <atm0sphere1> ioria, it says Too many arguments.
[15:11] <ioria> come on
[15:11] <ioria> atm0sphere1,  you need to reboot, enter grub , advanced options and run fsck
[15:11] <dorei> why ubuntu18 is so ugly and slow? :( why did they replace unity with this thing? :(
[15:12] <atm0sphere1> ioria, will that loss my exiting data?
[15:13] <atm0sphere1> will brb in sometime
[15:14] <help_ubuntu> I have an encrypted home directory, I try to access it on a live usb, but I can't get it to work. I followed this guide now and now I can read all the entires of the root of encrypted directory but can't access any files https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Mount_Encrypted_Ubuntu_Home/Guide
[15:21] <ioria> atm0sphere1,  you need to reboot, enter grub , advanced options , Recovery mode and run fsck  (no, no data lost)
[15:21] <Smashcat> Hi, I've just added a WiFi card to my server (so I can remove the Ethernet cables), but although the Kernel modules seem to load, there is no wlan0 device. lspci -v includes the new card ( https://pastebin.com/Pe6tTHzK ) but no wlan0! Server is currently on 16.04
[15:25] <gpunk> can you do ifconfig ?
[15:25] <Smashcat> gpunk: Yep it just shows the Ethernet adapters.
[15:25] <gpunk> can you post it?
[15:26] <Smashcat> Yep, hang on
[15:26] <Smashcat> https://pastebin.com/6ixLXKpx
[15:27] <Smashcat> Should probably mention I've never used WiFi on this server before, so I guess some things may not be installed
[15:28] <gpunk> run nmtui-edit and see if you can the interface
[15:28] <gpunk> add*
[15:28] <mustmodify> I just ran the 18.04 system update. Machine is stalled on "A start job is running for Raise network interface (  4min / 5 min ) -- I gather it'll quit in a minute, but do I need to be concerned?
[15:29] <Biessie> JIMMY DEAN!
[15:29] <Smashcat> gpunk: I don't have that command
[15:29] <gpunk> do you have iwconfig ?
[15:29] <Smashcat> yep
[15:30] <gpunk> what does it show, when you run it ?
[15:30] <Smashcat> gpunk: It doesn't find any wireless devices
[15:30] <Smashcat> It's weird because the kernel is finding the device and loading the drivers
[15:31] <mustmodify> This doesn't seem promising...
[15:31] <mustmodify> https://photos.app.goo.gl/Ha9HKLbmjm1CzUqg7
[15:33] <gpunk> the module is b43 ?
[15:34] <Smashcat> gpunk: It's using brcmfmac and wl . The device is coming up as 86fb
[15:37] <Biessie> JIMMY DEAN!
[15:39] <gpunk> what do you men by 86fb ?
[15:40] <Smashcat> That's the device it reports. From what I've read I think I'll have to get a Windows install on the server, as I know it works under Win10. Only really use it as a file server, so doesn't really matter.
[15:41] <gpunk> what report ? where do you read it ? ... it is up to you
[15:41] <Smashcat> gpunk: The report I posted on pastebin from lspci -v
[15:42] <Smashcat> It has 2 device IDs - 43c3 and also 86fb
[15:43]  * ablil98 
[15:43] <ablil98> hello world
[15:43] <coconut> Are there any flat wireless mouses which are always supported?
[15:44] <ablil98> coconut: i dont think so
[15:44] <mustmodify> ping
[15:45] <gpunk> Smashcat:  i think the formware is not loaded tho, can you post your whole dmesg ?
[15:45] <ablil98> mustmodify: what are you doing hhhhh
[15:45] <Smashcat> gpunk: ok...
[15:45] <mustmodify> I'm running the upgrade to 18
[15:46] <Smashcat> gpunk: https://pastebin.com/r1dztkSp
[15:48] <dorei> can i install unity on ubuntu18?
[15:50] <gpunk> [    4.091589] ERROR @wl_cfg80211_detach : NULL ndev->ieee80211ptr, unable to deref wl   , the driver is not loaded , is your server up to date ?
[15:50] <Smashcat> gpunk: It's still on 16.04 currently. But it's up to date as far as possible
[15:52] <BluesKaj> dorei, sudo apt install ubuntu-unity-desktop
[15:53] <Smashcat> gpunk: Ah I see this version doesn't support it, cheers!
[15:53] <gpunk> yup
[15:54] <BluesKaj> dorei, but heed the expanation of your DM, https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-install-unity-desktop-on-ubuntu-18-04-bionic-beaver-linux
[15:54] <Smashcat> gpunk: Seems like it's a bit of a kludge even with the current kernel. Might try finally updating my server, need to back up 12TB of data first :)
[15:54] <gpunk> good luck :)
[15:54] <Smashcat> cheers
[15:57] <mustmodify> after upgrading to 18, machine is frozen at this screen. https://photos.app.goo.gl/Ha9HKLbmjm1CzUqg7
[15:57] <mustmodify> any suggestions?
[15:59] <gpunk> how long ?
[16:00] <mustmodify> how long has it been locked?
[16:00] <gpunk> yes
[16:00] <gpunk> (stuck)
[16:00] <mustmodify> well, let's see. The first time it was like that when I got here,
[16:00] <mustmodify> ctrl+alt+delete it restarted. still got stuck on not being able to connect to network for 5 minutes, then showed that screen for another 5 or so
[16:02] <ioria> TJ-, you got a sec ?
[16:07] <TJ-> ioria: seems my PC has! Didn't realise it'd connected
[16:07] <ioria> TJ-, lol
[16:09] <ioria> TJ-, if you can, give a look at this : https://imgur.com/a/ETv3PV5   (maybe /var/cache/apt/archives/ need cleaning)
[16:09] <atm0sphere1> ioria, ping
[16:09] <ioria> atm0sphere1, pong
[16:10] <ioria> atm0sphere1, did you perform the fsck ?
[16:10] <TJ-> ioria: it does appear the .deb package(s) are corrupted
[16:10] <mojtaba> Hello, do you know how can I provide a variable name to a command? something like: scrot -q 89 'Screenshot_date +"%Y-%m-%d_%H-%M-%S-%6N"_$wx$h.png'
[16:10] <atm0sphere1> cant i run fsck from my terminal whithout shutting down my system
[16:10] <ioria> TJ-, yep, would enough cleaning it, or better switch mirror ?
[16:11] <ioria> atm0sphere1, i told you to use  Recovery Mode ...
[16:11] <TJ-> ioria: I'd just do 'apt-get clean' to start with, then retry the install. If that breaks, I'd be concerned there's a transparent HTTP proxy interferring
[16:11] <ioria> TJ-, fair
[16:11] <atm0sphere1> ioria, ok will do,
[16:11] <ioria> atm0sphere1,  wait ....
[16:12] <ioria> atm0sphere1,  sudo apt clean && sudo apt autoclean
[16:12] <atm0sphere1> ok
[16:12] <TJ-> ioria: you can also add debug output to the apt command to get some more insight if required
[16:12] <GuiLux> ioria: my logs flood are fixed, commented out MaxLevelSyslog in /etc/systemd/journald.conf, then added the value 'err' to that line. This is it all. Thx again, your hints really helped
[16:12] <atm0sphere1> ioria, done
[16:12] <ioria> right
[16:13] <mojtaba> I have changed that command to this one: scrot -q 89 'Screenshot_$(date +"%Y-%m-%d_%H-%M-%S-%6N")_$wx$h.png' but I am getting this error: sh: 1: Syntax error: "(" unexpected
[16:13] <TJ-> ioria: as in "sudo apt install -o=Debug::Acquire::http=true ..."
[16:13] <ioria> TJ-, yes, tx
[16:14] <ioria> atm0sphere1,  TJ-     sudo apt install -o=Debug::Acquire::http=true  linux-headers-4.15.0-34  linux-headers-4.15.0-34-generic
[16:21] <ioria> sy, brb again
[16:22] <atm0sphere1> ioria, that cmd successfully run
[16:33] <testUser_> .
[16:33] <testUser_> Hi I want to run Ubuntu on my Windows machine. I want to get a seperate HDD as I don't want to loose my Windows install. I plan on unplugging it entirely. Before I buy a new HDD i wanted to know if there was a recomend drive or will any old thingdo? I want to make sure I am buying the best thing for the job. I want to use this machine for genraly home use. Gaming/a bit or programming/messing around with what ever comes up
[16:34] <testUser_> sorry ssd not hdd
[16:37] <rfm> testUser_, nothing special about Ubuntu.  you'd probably be better off reading reviews on a hardware site (like tomshardware or anandtech) than asking here.
[16:40] <jcdutton> testUser_, Is your machine a laptop or a desktop?
[16:44] <gpunk> you can install ubuntu on a hdd/ssd without destroying your windows
[16:44] <EnrgyXprt> Any folks here running 16.04 in VBox on Win10 who would know if a shared folder permissions ON WINDOWS should be read only ?
[16:49] <haroldv22> FortKnight, this is normal ? http://termbin.com/dbix
[16:58] <ioria> atm0sphere1, are you ok ?
[17:02] <cnnx> when my ubuntu boots is there a way to run a command as a user without using sudo -u username
[17:02] <cnnx> just native as a user
[17:02] <cnnx> automatically
[17:03] <Tin_man> does the the mv command calculate the destination drive to make sure there is enough space, before trying to copy?
[17:03] <atm0sphere1> ioria, yes
[17:03] <cnnx> Tin_man: no
[17:03] <Tin_man> flip a coin
[17:04] <atm0sphere1> ioria, hopr that header issue won't appear again :)
[17:04] <cnnx> when its full it will error out I believe
[17:04] <ioria> atm0sphere1, good, we hope so ; can you please confirm : dpkg -l | grep linux-header | nc termbin.com 9999
[17:05] <Tin_man> i'm transfering a large amount of file, and I started it, then thought about my question. oh well if it errors out i'll do some clean up
[17:05] <Tin_man> files*
[17:07] <atm0sphere1> ioria, http://termbin.com/li73
[17:07] <ioria> atm0sphere1, very good
[17:07] <pulcherior> hello w0rld
[17:07] <dorei> the ugliness of ubuntu18 makes me really sad :(
[17:07] <cnnx> is there runlevels or systemctl for a specific non root user?
[17:07] <cnnx> i want to run a script at boot as a user
[17:08] <atm0sphere1> thanks ioria
[17:08] <atm0sphere1> ioria, +1
[17:08] <ioria> atm0sphere1, we're welcome
[17:11] <FortKnight> haroldv22: are you chatting from the system right now?
[17:11] <Smashcat> Hahaha! Wow, I just installed the latest version of Ubuntu to try using this ASUS PCE-AC88 WiFi adapter. On windows I'm getting 388Mbps down/21Mbps up . On Ubuntu: 1.61Mbps down/3.78 up :)
[17:11] <Smashcat> Think that driver needs some optimisation LOL
[17:11] <haroldv22> yes
[17:12] <haroldv22> FortKnight, correct
[17:12] <haroldv22> FortKnight, but when my system boot-up is very slow
[17:12] <FortKnight> haroldv22: systemd-analyze blame|nc termbin.com 9999
[17:13] <cnnx> found it
[17:13] <FortKnight> haroldv22: then do
[17:13] <FortKnight> haroldv22: systemd-analyze|nc termbin.com 9999
[17:14] <haroldv22> FortKnight, http://termbin.com/m2cio
[17:16] <FortKnight> haroldv22: now the one above, those are two separate instructions they might look the same but they are not
[17:19] <haroldv22> FortKnight, http://termbin.com/838h
[17:21] <FortKnight> haroldv22: awk -F\' '/menuentry / {print $2}' /boot/grub/grub.cfg|nc termbin.com 9999
[17:22] <haroldv22> FortKnight, http://termbin.com/9yel
[17:22] <FortKnight> haroldv22: inxi -Fxxprzc0|nc termbin.com 9999
[17:23] <haroldv22> FortKnight, what do it that command ?
[17:23] <FortKnight> haroldv22: when did you notice the slow startup
[17:23] <FortKnight> haroldv22: what had you done or installed just prior to noticing it?
[17:23] <haroldv22> http://termbin.com/uptg
[17:24] <FortKnight> haroldv22: does it take 6 minutes if you boot a 4.4 kernel
[17:25] <FortKnight> haroldv22: boot into one of your 4.4 versions and tell me if it still takes 6 minutes
[17:25] <dorei> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLbKplblqiQ
[17:25] <dorei> oops, wrong
[17:26] <haroldv22> FortKnight, nothing after the upgrade the distro remained slow
[17:28] <haroldv22> FortKnight, How I boot with the version 4.4 ?
[17:28] <haroldv22> FortKnight, I ask you because not appaers me the grub
[17:30] <FortKnight> haroldv22: you might have to push ESC or the left SHIFT key to see and make a selection
[17:30] <haroldv22> FortKnight, ok but I need reboot and then do it ?
[17:30] <FortKnight> haroldv22: yes
[17:30] <haroldv22> FortKnight, ok I am go
[17:37] <mustmodify> Anyone have time to help me get working again after upgrading from 16 to 18?
[17:41] <haroldv22> FortKnight, the same, 6 min
[17:42] <FortKnight> haroldv22: you said earlier
[17:42] <FortKnight> haroldv22: <haroldv22> FortKnight, nothing after the upgrade the distro remained slow
[17:42] <FortKnight> haroldv22: what version did you upgrade from?
[17:43] <haroldv22> FortKnight, from 16.04 until 18.04
[17:44] <mustmodify> Oh wait, am I fortnight?
[17:44] <mustmodify> I'm usually MustModify
[17:44] <mustmodify> I see me as MustModify
[17:45] <mustmodify> but that would explain why no one is responding to me.
[17:45] <mustmodify> Oh no, nevermind. I see FortKnight
[17:46] <m00n_urn> Hey! Is there a way to change the FDE pass setup on a fresh install of ubuntu 16.04? Is this https://askubuntu.com/questions/95137/how-to-change-luks-passphrase still relevant?
[17:46] <Elec_a> Hi, I haven't used snap before, I searched google for installing android studio in ubuntu and I found an article about using snap to do so. Should I use snap?
[17:47] <Elec_a> The packages installed with snap will be updated through regular "apt update" procedure?
[17:47] <Elec_a> snap somehow reminds me of AUR in Arch. Are they similar?
[17:48] <trafaret1> hi there
[17:48] <trafaret1> can anybody help me with my problem
[17:48] <hggdh> Elec_a: snap packages are auto-updated the snap process
[17:49] <hggdh> Elec_a: and I do not know what AUR is, so no response there
[17:49] <Elec_a> hggdh: so they won't be updated with apt?
[17:49] <trafaret1> how to make keybinding in ubuntu where I type space+(vim_keybinding_navigation)
[17:49] <FortKnight> haroldv22: give me a moment
[17:49] <trafaret1> in browser
[17:49] <haroldv22> FortKnight, no problem
[17:50] <arTee> trafaret1, what are you trying to achieve?
[17:50] <Elec_a> hggdh: oh, I just found out they will be updated daily and automatically. it's weird :/
[17:51] <FortKnight> haroldv22: ls -ld /var/log/installer|nc termbin.com 9999
[17:51] <arTee> Elec_a, and snap packages are precompiled and kinda isolated...
[17:51] <Elec_a> arTee: what do you mean by saying isolated?
[17:52] <haroldv22> FortKnight, http://termbin.com/1goz
[17:52] <Elec_a> do they come with their dependencies included in the package?
[17:52] <Elec_a> If that's the case, they should be huge in size then.
[17:53] <hggdh> Elec_a: yes, they are complete
[17:53] <arTee> Elec_a, yep... I would say they are bigger
[17:53] <trafaret1> arTee: In windows I install autohot key and set keybinding space+h - left, space+j - up , space+k- down, space+l left
[17:53] <trafaret1> arTee: I want to make same in ubuntu
[17:54] <trafaret1> I know vimium for chrome browser but in text filed it not workign
[17:54] <Elec_a> hggdh: I liked the idea, I use "docker" a lot and this makes sense.
[17:55] <m00n_urn> Hey! Is there a way to change the FDE pass setup on a fresh install of ubuntu 16.04? Is this https://askubuntu.com/questions/95137/how-to-change-luks-passphrase still relevant?
[17:55] <FortKnight> haroldv22: https://askubuntu.com/questions/837932/boo-networking-service-incredibly-slow-5minutes-ubuntu-16-10
[17:56] <arTee> trafaret1, sorry, I do not know...
[17:56] <Netwolf> https://h
[17:56] <Netwolf> https://the.ie
[17:57] <Netwolf> crap
[17:57] <Netwolf> wrong window
[17:57] <FortKnight> haroldv22: you could try implementing a 5 or 10 second timeout like in the link
[17:57] <haroldv22> FortKnight, ok I am go reboot
[17:57] <mustmodify> gpunk: You asked how long it had been like that. I restarted and timed it. 10 minutes so far. Same screen. https://photos.app.goo.gl/Ha9HKLbmjm1CzUqg7
[17:57] <arTee> I'm using terminator as terminal and had this weird thing going on where I was typing something in different terminal and the same commands were replicated in the terminator with weechat... really strange
[17:58] <mustmodify> Oh, actually, there was another message after that one.
[17:58] <mustmodify> Is this part of the update?
[17:59] <mustmodify> Or is part of a hung startup?
[18:04] <zzz> hey. im trying to do-release-upgrade from 16.04 to 18.04 and getting "An unresolvable problem occurred while calculating the upgrade.". It's probably some unofficial package. Is there any way I can easily identify how to solve the problem?
[18:06] <ioria> zzz, cat /var/log/dist-upgrade/main.log  should contain some infos
[18:06] <ChiLLabiS> Hi! Do Ubuntu 18.04 only make 1 partition on the installed drive? I can only find sda1 and not linux-swap partition...
[18:08] <ioria> ChiLLabiS, check     sudo ls -l  /swapfile
[18:08] <ChiLLabiS> sudo ls -l /swapfile
[18:08] <ChiLLabiS> oops
[18:08] <ChiLLabiS> -rw------- 1 root root 2147483648 sep 20 01:53 /swapfile
[18:09] <ioria> ChiLLabiS, ok     sudo file  /swapfile
[18:09] <ChiLLabiS>  /swapfile: Linux/i386 swap file (new style), version 1 (4K pages), size 524287 pages, no label, UUID=a81d68f0-ecfa-4c6b-9026-fd9bc9c0794c
[18:10] <uebera||> I'm trying to rebuild a Debian package on Ubuntu 18.04 and the config script fails to locate "dracut.pc". Where to get that file from? Is it part of a newer version of dracut?
[18:11] <ioria> ChiLLabiS,  18.04 uses a swapfile and not a swap partition (in the automatic scheme)
[18:11] <ChiLLabiS> okay thanks for the info and help :)
[18:11] <ioria> np
[18:13] <m00n_urn> Hey! Is there a way to change the FDE pass setup on a fresh install of ubuntu 16.04? Is this https://askubuntu.com/questions/95137/how-to-change-luks-passphrase still relevant?
[18:16] <haroldv22> FortKnight, nothing
[18:18] <FortKnight> haroldv22: only thing else i can think of is to fresh install 18.04 and determine if symptom occurs
[18:20] <haroldv22> FortKnight, ok thank you very much, for taking a time with me
[18:21] <FortKnight> haroldv22: no prob
[18:23] <Sven_vB> what's the easiest way to boot the Bionic live CD in a mode that keeps the screen visible and the wifi connected, ideally while allowing other power-saving mechanisms to remain saving?
[18:25] <Sven_vB> maybe also leave disks determine themselves when to spin down, in case the live CD would be more aggressive here than manufacturer defaults.
[18:25] <haroldv22> FortKnight,  http://termbin.com/z009c
[18:26] <haroldv22> FortKnight, TimeoutStartSec=5min not change
[18:26] <FortKnight> haroldv22: "seconds"...NOT minutes
[18:27] <FortKnight> haroldv22: https://askubuntu.com/questions/837932/boo-networking-service-incredibly-slow-5minutes-ubuntu-16-10
[18:28] <haroldv22> FortKnight,  I add `TimeoutStartSec=10sec` using this command `sudo systemctl edit networking.service` but the file not change
[18:28] <Sven_vB> I already have an autorun script that sets xset dpms force on; xset -dpms off; xset s off; and fakes mouse movements
[18:29] <Sven_vB> it also sets dconf options that worked in trusty and xenial, but seems to be a bad approach if each version of ubuntu needs other dconf options to opt-out of screensaving and standby.
[18:30] <haroldv22> FortKnight, I'm trying something
[18:30] <FortKnight> haroldv22:  you'll have to manually edit the file with a text editor you're comfortable using...some text editors like vi,gedit nano
[18:31] <FortKnight> haroldv22:  sudo gedit /lib/systemd/system/networking.service
[18:32] <Rojola> hi
[18:32] <Rojola> I just wrote a loooong question in #ubuntu-unregged before I realized I am not in #ubuntu
[18:33] <Rojola> in order not to write it again, I will simply copy & paste my question from #ubuntu-unregged to a paste-service
[18:33] <Rojola> https://dpaste.de/HTbs/raw
[18:34] <Rojola> ^ my question from #ubuntu-unregged
[18:35] <Sven_vB> Rojola, unfortunately lots of people would need to first see it's an interesting question before they're motivated to follow links.
[18:35] <starfyter> Is this a laptop Rojola?
[18:36] <starfyter> Ah.  I see laptop. :)
[18:36] <Rojola> yes starfyter
[18:36] <starfyter> Simplest solution.  Is there a switch to disable internal wifi?  That or disable in bios?
[18:36] <Rojola> nope
[18:37] <starfyter> No bios option?
[18:37] <Rojola> maybe in the bios
[18:37] <Rojola> starfyter, but as it looks, the external wifi adapter is disabled
[18:38] <Rojola> https://dpaste.de/m8ZF/raw
[18:38] <Rojola> ^ that's the output of "sudo lshw -C network"
[18:38] <Rojola> "RTL8188EE Wireless Network Adapter" is the internal wifi adapter (as far as I know)
[18:40] <starfyter> Could pull the external and see what it reports.
[18:40] <Rojola> ok - but maybe I am gone then
[18:41] <Rojola> I try to pull it now
[18:41] <Rojola> I just ripped my external wifi adapter apart
[18:41] <Rojola> not kidding you
[18:41] <Rojola> it just broke while unplugging it
[18:42] <starfyter> WOW.
[18:42] <starfyter> But you're still here. :)
[18:42] <Rojola> yeah - I am using the internal one, obviously
[18:42] <Rojola> well, the question is now officially obsolete
[18:42] <Rojola> now I only have _1_ adapter (the internal one)
[18:42] <Rojola> thank you!
[18:43] <Rojola> I will try to find the second external one - should be in my laptop bag somewhere
[18:43] <Rojola> afk
[18:49] <mustmodify> What's the name for all the status messages that appear when you're starting up and shutting down?
[18:54] <Bashing-om> mustmodify: Boot messages is what I often see them refered as .
[18:59] <mustmodify> great. So what does it mean when your boot messages start cascading? That is, the assigned width doesn't match the width of the screen?
[18:59] <ioria> please, can someone on bionic 18.04  confirm that /home/$USER/.local/share/recently-used.xbel  belongs to user and not root ?  thanx
[19:00] <Bashing-om> ioria: " -rw------- 1 sysop sysop 23432 Sep 22 13:49 /home/sysop/.local/share/recently-used.xbel
[19:01] <ioria> Bashing-om, thank you
[19:01] <Bashing-om> ioria: ^ that is on xubuntu .. wayland could be different ?
[19:02] <starfyter> Same here on Ubuntu...
[19:03] <ioria> Bashing-om, nope... but it's weird ... i'd try  'sudo gedit' and for an instant that file became owned by root  (confused)
[19:04] <starfyter> Shouldn't need sudo
[19:04] <Bashing-om> ioria: A thought - sudo is depreciated ... maybe as ' sudo -H ...... ' .
[19:04] <ioria> Bashing-om, absolutely ... it was a test
[19:05] <ioria> Bashing-om, gedit[2908]: Attempting to read the recently used resources file at '/home/ioria/.local/share/recently-used.xbel', but the parser failed: Failed to open file “/home/ioria/.local/share/recently-used.xbel”: Permission denied.
[19:05] <mustmodify> I just upgraded from 16.04 to 18.04 and my ethernet connection is not working. Google isn't being particularly helpful. What's my first step? Yes, I checked it was plugged in. :)
[19:06] <Bashing-om> ioria: testing is good :) .. I used to often break my system testing ..:P
[19:06] <ioria> Bashing-om, you're right ... but now that file it's again owned by me .... :þ
[19:07] <ioria> Bashing-om, and i did nothing to chown it
[19:09] <Bashing-om> ioria: I try and open in mousepad. All I get is a lot of  GTK-WARNINGs .
[19:09] <ioria> Bashing-om, let me try ...
[19:11] <ioria> Bashing-om, yeah
[19:12] <ioria> Bashing-om, but it did not change ownership of .local/share/recently-used.xbel ; gedit does
[19:12] <ioria> Bashing-om, -rw------- 1 root root 218 Sep 22 15:11 /home/ioria/.local/share/recently-used.xbel
[19:12] <Bashing-om> ioria: Maybe mousepad does not like XML files - " file .local/share/recently-used.xbel >> .local/share/recently-used.xbel: XML 1.0 document, ASCII text" .
[19:13] <ioria> Bashing-om, unbelivable
[19:17] <Bashing-om> ioria: Curiouser, Thunar has no problem opening recently-used.xbel.
[19:18] <ioria> Bashing-om, i know... i guess it's about gedit ... i'd try with leafpad
[19:19] <mustmodify> why are my network connections called enp2s0 and enp3s0 instead of eth0 and eth1?
[19:19] <ioria> Bashing-om, yes, just sudo gedit  changes the ownership (temporary) .... wow
[19:20] <TJ-> mustmodify: it's called predictable interface naming, it is based on the hardware port assignment
[19:21] <Bashing-om> mustmodify: See: https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/PredictableNetworkInterfaceNames/ .
[19:21] <mustmodify> great, thanks.
[19:23] <ioria> not a big deal btw, reverts automatically
[19:26] <Beren> Hi, I want to move my Ubuntu install to another disk. I'm planning to use Clonezilla/partclone to copy my Ubuntu install over. Would I have to modify the fstab manually to suit the new disk?
[19:28] <TJ-> Beren: if it's a bit-for-bit clone, no, since all references will be identical. However, you may want to change the clones hostname, and any static/manual network configuration
[19:30] <TJ-> Beren: one gotcha would be if the two disks have different logical sector sizes, since then the logical offsets would be wrong
[19:31] <Beren> TJ-: I'm doing partition-level clone. Would UUIDs of the source and target be different?
[19:35] <TJ-> Beren: I'm not familiar with how clonezilla does its work. UUIDs generally belong to the file-systems, not the partitions (although GPT uses unique GUIDs per partition)
[19:40] <ioria> Beren, you should be ok... in the worst scenario you boot the live cd, mount root , run blkid and edit fstab
[19:47] <FurretUber> Hi, I'm experiencing a problem with Ubuntu 18.04 using GNOME DE on Xorg. When I change the volume up or down using the keyboard function keys everything freezes for around 2 seconds
[19:47] <FurretUber> It unfreezes when the popup showing the volume appears
[19:48] <nullbyte_> Get:1 file:/var/cuda-repo-9-2-local  nvidia-396 396.37-0ubuntu1 [80,0 MB]
[20:12] <djp_> Hi. Trying to set the following variable... "hvsc_base". i need to set it a base directory. it's then meant to load a specific db and allow me to use relative paths. how do i write the variable and where do i put it? bashrc or profile?
[20:16] <gorginator> Hi, I'm trying to reinstall ubuntu through a live usb installation, but I get the following when I choose 'Reinstall ubuntu 17.04': two filesystems are assigned the same mount point /boot/efi /dev/nvme0n1p1 and SCSI2 (0,0,0), partition #3 sda. Please correct this by chaning mount points
[20:16] <gorginator> It's a dual boot installation with windows and ubuntu
[20:17] <gorginator> and two drives, one SSD drive, and one normal hard drive
[20:17] <gorginator> windows is normally installed on the SSD, ubuntu on the other one
[20:19] <gorginator> with pictures: https://imgur.com/a/rhBAxBA
[20:20] <gorginator> Any idea what I should do, already google a bit but haven't found a solution
[20:22] <gorginator> looks like this bug, but nobody answered https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1567462
[20:23] <leftyfb> gorginator: Ubuntu 17.04 is not supported anymore. Use 18.04 installation media
[20:23] <gorginator> leftyfb: I know, but otherwise I can't keep my personal files
[20:24] <gorginator> current 17.04 installation is broken, but with live usb I can reinstall by keeping documents
[20:24] <gorginator> If I do a 18.04 install I don't get that option
[20:24] <leftyfb> gorginator: 17.04 is not supported anymore, sorry
[20:24] <leftyfb> gorginator: you can always restore from backup
[20:25] <gorginator> leftyfb: it looks like it's not only for 17.04, since bug report is from 16.04
[20:26] <leftyfb> gorginator: Again, use 18.04. That is the latest and is supported for 5 years. If you're worried about your data, you can always restore from your backups. If you don't have backups, then the data isn't important.
[20:27] <Netwolf> keep data in a s3 bucket (secure) than mount on whatever os of the day
[20:28] <Sia-> Hi, why on macbook peo 2012 my eyes hurts if using ubuntu but not macbosx? eye strain?
[20:30] <gorginator> leftyfb: 16.04 is still supported no?
[20:30] <gorginator> It's the same bug
[20:33] <nullbyte_> Get:1 file:/var/cuda-repo-9-2-local  nvidia-396 396.37-0ubuntu1 [80,0 MB]
[20:33] <nullbyte_> dpkg: error processing archive /var/cuda-repo-9-2-local/./nvidia-396_396.37-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb (--unpack):
[20:33] <nullbyte_>  trying to overwrite '/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libGLX_indirect.so.0', which is also in package libglx-mesa0:amd64 18.0.5-0ubuntu0~18.04.1
[20:33] <nullbyte_> Errors were encountered while processing:
[20:33] <nullbyte_>  /var/cuda-repo-9-2-local/./nvidia-396_396.37-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb
[20:33] <nullbyte_> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[20:33] <nullbyte_> this is from cuda package
[20:33] <ducasse> !paste | nullbyte_
[20:33] <nullbyte_> how to install nvidia and nvidia pkgs*
[20:34] <nullbyte_> i have cuda-repo-ubuntu1710-9-2-local_9.2.148-1_amd64.deb and cuda-repo-ubuntu1710-9-2-148-local-patch-1_1.0-1_amd64.deb
[20:35] <nullbyte_> they are added with apt-key add /var/cuda-repo-<version>/7fa2af80.pub e.g., keys OK
[20:35] <nullbyte_> but after apt-get update
[20:35] <leftyfb> nullbyte_: cat /etc/issue
[20:35] <nullbyte_> i run apt-get install cuda
[20:35] <nullbyte_> everything installs
[20:35] <leftyfb> nullbyte_: cat /etc/issue
[20:35] <nullbyte_> and on nvidia drivers gets error
[20:35] <nullbyte_> Ubuntu 18.04.1 LTS \n \l
[20:35] <leftyfb> nullbyte_: then why are you using a repo from Ubuntu 17.10 to get those install files?
[20:36] <nullbyte_> leftyfb: no it's a cuda package from nvidia.com ready for 18.10
[20:36] <leftyfb> nullbyte_: Ubuntu 18.10 isn't released yet
[20:37] <leftyfb> And as far as I know, nvidia.com does not supply .deb files
[20:37] <nullbyte_> p[s
[20:37] <nullbyte_> ops
[20:37] <nullbyte_> 18.04
[20:37] <nullbyte_> who knows
[20:37] <leftyfb> who knows what?
[20:37] <nisankhindia_> gorginator: to reinstall ubuntu without lossing your windows installation choose the last option SOMETHING ELSE
[20:37] <leftyfb> nullbyte_: where did you get those files?
[20:38] <gorginator> nisankhindia_: ok, and what should I choose then?
[20:38] <leftyfb> nullbyte_: I take that back, looks like nvidia.com does supply .debs now. That's fairly new.
[20:39] <nisankhindia_> gorginator: go ahead carefully with looking at file system , mount points and your /home ..
[20:39] <mustmodify> I upgraded fom 16.04 to 18.04 and now my server is going to sleep. :( :(
[20:40] <leftyfb> mustmodify: servers do not "go to sleep"
[20:40] <mustmodify> You'd think
[20:40] <leftyfb> mustmodify: there is no suspend option in ubuntu server
[20:40] <mustmodify> but I'm ssh'd in, I leave it alone for 20 or 30 minutes, and the machine is off.
[20:40] <mustmodify> this happened twice.
[20:40] <mustmodify> it's OFF. No lights. Ethernet light is off. Fan is off.
[20:40] <mustmodify> Computer is down.
[20:41] <leftyfb> mustmodify: ok, maybe overheating? Maybe some script you have is doing something wrong?
[20:42] <mustmodify> Your proposal is that a server that worked for more than 2 years, got upgraded, and the same day starts spontaneously going to sleep (and also has a new UI installed) is doing so because of something that was there before?
[20:42] <gorginator> nisankhindia_: sorry, not sure what I should do, mount points aren't filled in https://imgur.com/a/gxc3BAi
[20:43] <leftyfb> mustmodify: UI? Ubuntu server does not install a UI by default. Why did you install a desktop environment on a server?
[20:43] <gorginator> nvme0n1 is the ssd, sda the other one
[20:43] <mustmodify> leftyfb: Again, I didn't.
[20:43] <mustmodify> I typed do-upgrade-whatever
[20:43] <mustmodify> and it's there. But it wasn't before.
[20:43] <nisankhindia_> gorginator: follow any tutorial available online for overwritting previous linux distro installation ..
[20:43] <mustmodify> Found the setting. Disabled it. Will uninstall UI this evening.
[20:44] <leftyfb> mustmodify: Again, Ubuntu server does not install any sort of UI. It is completely console based. If you see a UI, then you installed it during or after installation.
[20:45] <mustmodify> OK, well maybe my 9 year old did it.
[20:45] <Bashing-om> mustmodify: unity ? pastebin ' ls /usr/share/xsessions ' .
[20:45] <mustmodify> or when I typed do-release-upgrade I also typed whatever you'd have to type to convert a server into a not-server.
[20:45] <nisankhindia_> gorginator:windows for  Ntfs file systems , your ubuntu installed file system ext3 etc etc , look carefully in your partitions , take care of them and go ahead , if you want to have your data videos musics files than take a backup from /home
[20:46] <anddam> hi, are there instructions to update a 16.04.5 without Xorg to 18?
[20:47] <leftyfb> anddam: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BionicBeaver/ReleaseNotes#Upgrading_from_Ubuntu_16.04_LTS_or_17.10  Found but googling "ubuntu 16.04 server to 18.04"
[20:47] <anddam> oh thanks, I landed on /StableReleaseUpdates in my previous search
[20:50] <anddam> "Note that the server upgrade will use GNU screen and automatically re-attach in case of dropped connection problems. " hope that'll be fine in the tmux session
[20:51] <anddam> leftyfb: doing the release upgrade now, thanks again
[21:09] <Kristhian> What do i need to do to install identd?
[21:10] <Bashing-om> !find identd
[21:12] <qwebirc95665> hello, if i login into my ubuntu maschine vis ssh i get a  "* Canonical Livepatch is available for installation."  i checked everything, it should be installed and have a key, etc. why does it still show me that a installation is available
[21:13] <nisankhindia_> Kristhian: do execute apt search identd than select your choice and use apt to install that , you need to open some port , ident servers uses port 113/tcp
[21:16] <nisankhindia_> qwebirc95665: try enabling canonical live patch for your system ... Generate your credentials from the canonical portal and enable it in your system
[21:18] <nisankhindia_> qwebirc95665: enable the service as ubuntu user rather than canonical customer
[21:20] <Kristhian> Thanks.
[21:23] <qwebirc95665> @nisankhindia_ 2018/09/22 23:22:48 error executing enable: Machine-token already exists! Please use 'disable' to delete existing machine-token.
[21:24] <nisankhindia_> qwebirc95665: disable it and than re enable it
[21:25] <qwebirc95665> @nisankhindia_ it seems to be enabeld and working, but if i try to login again via ssh it still says " * Canonical Livepatch is available for installation."
[21:25] <Sven_vB> how to get ~/Desktop/*.desktop "trusted" in the Bionic live session? the web says chmod +x, I already have mode 0755 but the files are still listed with real filename and some placeholder icon, even the common ones like ubiquity.desktop.
[21:25] <Sven_vB> s~common~default~
[21:26] <nisankhindia_> qwebirc95665: what is the output of " canonical-livepatch status --verbose  "
[21:27] <qwebirc95665> client-version: 8.0.3 machine-id: *** machine-token: *** architecture: x86_64 cpu-model: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4702MQ CPU @ 2.20GHz last-check: 2018-09-22T22:43:55.632505984+02:00 boot-time: 2018-09-22T13:42:34+02:00 uptime: 9h43m49s status: - kernel: 4.15.0-34.37-generic   running: true   livepatch:     checkState: checked     patchState: nothing-to-apply     version: ""     fixes: ""
[21:28] <leftyfb> !paste | qwebirc95665
[21:29] <Sven_vB> found it, seems you have to (as the user that owns the .desktop files, with valid $DISPLAY, inside a gnome session) run: for D in *.desktop; do gio set "$D" metadata::trusted yes; done
[21:30] <Sven_vB> maybe I should just learn to use default Debian.
[21:30] <qwebirc95665> @nisankhindia_ https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/mGW74Zgszq/
[21:31] <eletious> Hey, is there a way to force the top bar to be transparent in GNOME in 18.04?  I did some googling but it wasn't really helpful - it's transparent when nothing is touchning it, but as soon as a window reaches the edge it turns opaque in that weird gray color
[21:34] <nisankhindia_> qwebirc95665: i suspect motd could be the reason
[21:35] <qwebirc95665> @nisankhindia_ what does this mean?
[21:36] <nisankhindia_> qwebirc95665: it's not an issue at all , you can ignore this .
[21:37] <qwebirc95665> @nisankhindia_ ok, is this like an ad inside my terminal?
[21:38] <qwebirc95665> @nisankhindia_ thank you for your help.
[21:39] <nisankhindia_> qwebirc95665: it's Ubuntu SSH Ads  , so this is not any issue
[22:00] <messa4> hi
[22:01] <messa4> jhello
[22:03] <messa4> does anyone know some oldschool irc channels where u can talk about anything? like in 90"
[22:03] <messa4> including politics
[22:04] <nisankhindia_> messa4: this is a Ubuntu Support Channel . ask anything that related to ubuntu . for your query you may use google , thanks
[22:04] <messa4> i did
[22:04] <leftyfb> messa4: go to #freenode for general help
[22:05] <messa4> see? no ability to speak anymore on irc. all cahnnels are ghettos about just single topic. what you have done...
[22:06] <mark721> hello guys
[22:07] <mark721> I dual boot Win10 alongisde ubuntu 18,04 due to problems I had to factory reset win10 noww im trying to get access to ubbuntu again. At the moment I'm running ubuntu via a bootable usb on "try ubuntu" mode
[22:08] <mark721> each time I run [sudo grub-install /dev/sda] I get  [grub-install: error: failed to get canonical path of `/cow'.]
[22:09] <marcodiego> mark721, I think you will have to chroot in the ubuntu partition on disk to do that
[22:09] <mark721> marcodiego: like this https://unix.stackexchange.com/a/96981
[22:10] <marcodiego> mark721, step 3 is wrong
[22:11] <mark721> marcodiego: wwhat should it be?
[22:11] <marcodiego> mark721, just a sec, I'll find the right command for you
[22:11] <mark721> marcodiego: ok also one more thing in step 2 this should be the partition that has Ubuntu on right
[22:11] <mark721> marcodiego: not windowws
[22:13] <leftyfb> mark721: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCdRecovery
[22:14] <marcodiego> mark721, leftyfb are correct, just use that. That should do it
[22:14] <mark721> leftyfb: ty just to confirm its the partition that UBUNTU is on right?
[22:14] <leftyfb> mark721: negative
[22:14] <leftyfb> mark721: wait, yes. sorry
[22:15] <leftyfb> mark721: to chroot, yes. To reinstall grub, no. Grub gets installed to the drive, not a parition
[22:15] <mark721> leftyfb: i wwas talking about the mounting
[22:15] <mark721> leftyfb: so its ubuntu yeah
[22:15] <leftyfb> mark721: lsblk -f -e 7
[22:15] <leftyfb> use that to help you determine which partition to use
[22:17] <mark721> leftyfb: wwhat is ctrl+alt+f1 supposed to do because its not doing anything for me
[22:18] <leftyfb> mark721: just open a terminal
[22:19] <Bashing-om> mark721: TTY1 is where the GUI runs in 18.04 .. try as F2 .
[22:19] <ChaiTRex> F1 and F2 are both in use, I think. One is for the login screen, one is for the logged in stuff.
[22:19] <mark721> I keep getting this error
[22:19] <mark721> sudo: unable to execute /usr/sbin/chroot: Input/output error
[22:20] <Smashcat> Can anyone recommend a good multi-antenna WiFi card for Linux? Need something like this but wth Linux support https://www.asus.com/uk/Networking/PCE-AC88/
[22:21] <mark721> leftyfb: marcodiego sudo: unable to execute /usr/sbin/chroot: Input/output error ??? any ideas plsssss
[22:21] <leftyfb> mark721: pastebin the output of lsblk -f -e 7
[22:22] <mark721> leftyfb: https://pastebin.com/RTXP29bc
[22:22] <marcodiego> mark721, are you trying a 64 live-environment on a 32 bit installed system?
[22:23] <mark721> marcodiego: i dont think 18,04 has 32 bit and 64 bit?
[22:23] <leftyfb> mark721: did you bind mount those locations per the instructions?
[22:23] <mark721> marcodiego: only 64
[22:23] <mark721> leftyfb: the first command i did was sudo mount /dev/sda8 /mnt
[22:23] <marcodiego> mark721, what is the output of ls /mnt
[22:23] <leftyfb> mark721: it looks like it's already mounted there
[22:24] <mark721> bin    etc             lib         mnt   run   sys  vmlinuz boot   home            lib64       opt   sbin  tmp  vmlinuz.old cdrom  initrd.img      lost+found  proc  snap  usr dev    initrd.img.old  media       root  srv   var
[22:24] <leftyfb> !paste | mark721
[22:24] <leftyfb> mark721: continue on with the instructions after the mount
[22:25] <mark721> leftyfb: it gave me the same error sudo: unable to execute /usr/sbin/chroot: Input/output error
[22:25] <mark721> leftyfb: after doing the chroot
[22:25] <marcodiego> mark721, what is the output of mount?
[22:25] <leftyfb> mark721: when you get to "sudo chroot /mnt", after that just try to reinstall grub to /dev/sda
[22:25] <leftyfb> marcodiego: it's already mounted
[22:26] <leftyfb> mark721: you tried "sudo chroot /mnt/" ?
[22:26] <marcodiego> leftyfb, I'm thinking about the other dirs "/dev, /proc..."
[22:26] <leftyfb> marcodiego: that's what the bind mounts are for
[22:27] <mark721> Guys please see this https://pastebin.com/fr8rxvwP
[22:27] <marcodiego> leftyfb, typing mount would make us sure they are mounted
[22:27] <leftyfb> mark721: sudo dmesg -T | nc termbin.com 9999
[22:27] <mark721> marcodiego: this is the output of mount https://pastebin.com/rbEcZAiE
[22:28] <leftyfb> mark721: it doesn't look like you ran the bind mount commands
[22:29] <marcodiego> mark721, I don't see the bind mounts there
[22:29] <leftyfb> mark721: for i in `dev proc sys` ; do sudo mount -o bind /$i /mnt/$i ; done
[22:29] <marcodiego> mark721, are you sure you did the bind mounts?
[22:30] <leftyfb> mark721_: sudo dmesg -T | nc termbin.com 9999
[22:30] <mark721_> leftyfb: that just made me sign out of ubuntu and sign in again?
[22:30] <leftyfb> it shouldn't have
[22:30] <mark721_> leftyfb: like literally it brought me to the sign in and select a user
[22:31] <marcodiego> mark721, it looks like you didn't do the bind mounts. Can you confirm you did the bind mounts?
[22:31] <leftyfb> mark721_: I get what you said before
[22:31] <leftyfb> marcodiego: not having those bind mounts won't give the I/O error
[22:31] <leftyfb> marcodiego: there's other, more pressing issues at play
[22:31] <mark721_> leftyfb: http://termbin.com/y2ait
[22:31] <mark721_> marcodiego:
[22:31] <mark721_> marcodiego: https://pastebin.com/rbEcZAiE this is ur mount thingy
[22:32] <leftyfb> mark721_: I would reboot back into the live session. It's possible you've got something weird going on with mounting. Or a possible bad drive
[22:32] <marcodiego> mark721_, http://termbin.com/y2ait is bad news... it looks like you have badblocks
[22:32] <leftyfb> or bad memory
[22:32] <mark721_> leftyfb: ok i will reboot
[22:32] <leftyfb> marcodiego: it's not definite.
[22:32] <mark721_> leftyfb: its a bad deay :(
[22:33] <mark721_> brb
[22:33] <leftyfb> marcodiego: it's complaining about loop0, which isn't necessarily the physical drive, but might be one of the live session partitions.
[22:33] <leftyfb> IN which case, it could be bad memory since that's the "drive" the live session lives on
[22:33] <Smashcat> Well, installting another server here, first time I've looked at the Linux desktop in years - it's still a horrible mess :)
[22:34] <leftyfb> Smashcat: ok, feel free to go back to Windows
[22:35] <Smashcat> OSX mainly, but yeah. One day the Linux guys might finally make a decision whether to use CTRL+C or SHIFT+CTRL+C - it's only been over 20 years - hahaha!
[22:35] <leftyfb> Smashcat: ok, goodbye
[22:37] <marcodiego> CTRL+C has been sending SIGINT since forever on all terminals I've ever tested. Seems quite consistent to me. To copying and pasting CTRL+INSERT and SHIFT+INSERT works fine even on windows
[22:43] <Smashcat> Well that's a minor one - which is solved in other OS'. Also not being able to drag a window between 2 displays on separate GPUs is pretty special :)
[22:45] <leftyfb> Smashcat: This is a support channel. Not for ranting
[22:45] <Smashcat> + no high DPI scaling. It doesn't seem to have changed at all in 5 years. I use it on servers all the time, but just surprised that the desktop is still pretty clunky.
[22:45] <leftyfb> Smashcat: Also, nobody that knows the first thing about running a proper server runs a desktop GUI on it.
[22:46] <Smashcat> It'll be switched off once I'm done. I only installed it to have a look and see what's changed: nothing
[22:46] <leftyfb> Smashcat: Please take your rants elsewhere.
[22:47] <Smashcat> They're observations, I'm not mad at all.
[22:47] <leftyfb> Smashcat: take your "observations" elsewhere. This is a support channel.
[22:47] <mark721> hi guys im back
[22:47] <mark721> leftyfb: could you resend the link
[22:47] <Smashcat> You own it?
[22:48] <leftyfb> mark721_: sudo dmesg -T | nc termbin.com 9999
[22:48] <hggdh> Smashcat: what is meant is this is a support-only channel. You did not have any support issue, just observations -- which are not for this channel
[22:48] <marcodiego> Smashcat, I understand your observations. What you're gonna do about them?
[22:49] <Smashcat> marcodiego: Uninstall the Xserver I guess.
[22:49] <ChaiTRex> Smashcat: If you're worried about ownership, please see the IRC Guidelines in the channel topic, which include this sort of thing.
[22:49] <mark721> leftyfb: wait lefty
[22:49] <mark721> leftyfb: chroot is working now!
[22:49] <mark721> leftyfb: only one thing
[22:49] <mark721> leftyfb: after chroot it keeps saying grub not found?
[22:50] <leftyfb> mark721: I would recommend checking dmesg for possible I/O errors before doing anything else
[22:50] <leftyfb> mark721: outside of the chroot
[22:50] <marcodiego> Smashcat, great. I don't think this is a proper solution. I'd suggest you to donate or help projects that could fix them more definitely. Think about that. That will help more than making "observations" here
[22:50] <mark721> leftyfb: http://termbin.com/fafi
[22:51] <leftyfb> mark721: ok, look good. Did you run the bind mounts?
[22:51] <Smashcat> marcodiego: I do help with OS projects, mostly for server-side applications. Just haven't looked at the desktop in a long time.
[22:51] <mark721> leftyfb: all i did so far was sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt
[22:51] <mark721> leftyfb: woops sda8 i mean
[22:51] <leftyfb> mark721: for i in `dev proc sys` ; do sudo mount -o bind /$i /mnt/$i ; done
[22:51] <marcodiego> Smashcat, maybe they need help, donations or support
[22:52] <Smashcat> Yep ok, anyway, time to get this uninstalled and finish up. Cheers.
[22:52] <leftyfb> marcodiego: please stay on topic
[22:52] <mark721> leftyfb: it says dev not found
[22:52] <mark721> *command dev not found
[22:53] <mark721> leftyfb: do I need to do those for loops coz i didnt see it on the site?
[22:53] <leftyfb> mark721: my bad:    for i in dev proc sys ; do sudo mount -o bind /$i /mnt/$i ; done
[22:53] <mark721> leftyfb: do i need it tho ? im confused what it does and why its not on the site?
[22:54] <mark721> -- trying to understand what im doing this time coz thats the reason i had to reinstall wwin10 LOL
[22:54] <leftyfb> mark721: that makes 3 commands into 1
[22:54] <mark721> leftyfb: wwhat I mean is none of those commands are on here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCdRecovery
[22:54] <leftyfb> mark721: as opposed to:  sudo mount -o bind /dev/ /mnt/dev ; sudo mount -o bind /sys /mnt/sys ; sudo mount -o bind /proc /mnt/proc
[22:55] <leftyfb> mark721:  for i in dev proc sys ; do sudo mount -o bind /$i /mnt/$i ; done     <~~~ this willl do the same thing
[22:55] <mark721> leftyfb: i was following the recover grub instructions
[22:55] <mark721> leftyfb: ?
[22:56] <leftyfb> mark721: do you want help or do you want to just keep debating everything I suggest?
[22:56] <mark721> leftyfb: was I supposed to follow the update failure ones?
[22:56] <mark721> leftyfb: no i just want to understand :( im sorry.
[22:56] <leftyfb> mark721: You bind mount so you have a proper chroot environment. Otherwise, within the chroot you won't have the ability to reinstall grub to your drive
[22:56] <mark721> leftyfb: ok what's next
[22:56] <mark721> I did for i in dev proc sys ; do sudo mount -o bind /$i /mnt/$i ; done
[22:57] <leftyfb> mark721: type mount and make sure those 3 are mounted in /mnt
[22:57] <leftyfb> toward the end
[22:57] <mark721> leftyfb: https://pastebin.com/71fC46wz
[22:58] <leftyfb> good
[22:58] <leftyfb> sudo chroot /mnt/
[22:58] <leftyfb> sudo grub-install /dev/sda
[22:58] <mark721> leftyfb: grub-install: error: cannot find EFI directory.
[22:59] <leftyfb> mark721: ok, you failed to mention this was an EFI install
[22:59] <mark721> leftyfb: idek what efi is :(
[22:59] <mark721> leftyfb: sorry.
[23:00] <leftyfb> mark721: pastebin the output of lsblk -f -e 7
[23:01] <leftyfb> oh wait
[23:01] <leftyfb> type exit
[23:01] <leftyfb> then pastebin the output of lsblk -f -e 7
[23:01] <mark721> leftyfb: https://pastebin.com/ELatF351
[23:01] <Sven_vB> where's the manpage for overlayfs? e.g. which man keyword? (I tried {,mount.}overlay{,fs})
[23:02] <leftyfb> mark721: sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/boot/efi
[23:02] <mark721> leftyfb: should it be sda8?
[23:02] <leftyfb> mark721: negative
[23:03] <mark721> leftyfb: ok next?
[23:03] <leftyfb> mark721: your root filesystem (sda8) is already mounted to /mnt. We just mounted your EFI partition into the chroot environment
[23:03] <leftyfb> mark721: sudo chroot /mnt/
[23:03] <leftyfb> mark721: then: sudo grub-install /dev/sda
[23:04] <leftyfb> mark721: if that works, then run : sudo update-grub
[23:05] <mark721> leftyfb: okay so its all done no errors incl the update I assume just disable fast boot and im good to go (fingers crossed)
[23:06] <leftyfb> mark721: type exit # then reboot
[23:06] <leftyfb> mark721: without the live cd/usb
[23:06] <mark721> leftyfb: will it work if fast boot is still on
[23:06] <mark721> ?
[23:06] <leftyfb> mark721: just keep your pc in the same state you had it before when it was running
[23:07] <mark721> ok ty
[23:07] <mark721> will be back to tell you if all is good ty :)
[23:12] <dviola> hi
[23:13] <dviola> I've installed Ubuntu 18.04.1 on a ryzen 5 2400G computer, but it keeps crashing occasionally, I'm not sure if it's a kernel panic, but when this happens the video/monitor doesn't turn on anymore, is there a way to upgrade the kernel to the latest version?
[23:13] <dviola> I run Arch on the side and it doesn't happen on Arch, so I'm guessing it's a kernel issue
[23:15] <dviola> if possible, I would like to upgrade mesa/the kernel to the latest versions
[23:21] <ducasse> !mainline | dviola
[23:22] <ducasse> dviola: those are reaally only intended for testing, though
[23:26] <dviola> thanks
[23:27] <dviola> and what about for upgrading to teh latest for production use?
[23:28] <dviola> maybe I should wait for 18.10
[23:29] <ducasse> dviola: no, there will be a later kernel some time after 18.10 is released, but that's a while off yet
[23:29] <ducasse> (about three months after release, i think)
[23:29] <ducasse> dviola: there are ppas with newer mesa releases, i suggest you search launchpad
[23:29] <dviola> what would you recommend as for now?
[23:30] <ducasse> dviola: the best option is probably mainline
[23:32] <jcdutton> dviola, do you have 2 PCs ?
[23:32] <dviola> yes
[23:33] <jcdutton> dviola, if so, you can set up netconsole and get the kernel messages sent to the other PC when the first crashes
[23:33] <dviola> ah, yes
[23:33] <jcdutton> it might give you a clue as to what went wrong.
[23:33] <dviola> it's very hard to reproduce though
[23:34] <jcdutton> well, if it is a kernel panic, at least then you will see the panic messages.
[23:34] <dviola> but yes, that's a good idea
[23:34] <dviola> right
[23:34] <dviola> thanks
[23:36] <jcdutton> dviola, I had a similar problem once, and found out my cpu fan was intermittently failing. Fan stop moving -> cpu shut itself down.  Netconsole told me why.
[23:36] <dviola> nice, yes
[23:37] <dviola> it's a very useful module, I've used it in the past as well to track down issues
[23:37] <jcdutton> dviola, which kernel are you currently using?
[23:38] <dviola> on ubuntu, the stock 4.15.0-34-generic one
[23:38] <dviola> on arch 4.18.9-arch1-1-ARCH
[23:38] <jcdutton> the problem one is ?
[23:39] <dviola> 4.15
[23:39] <jcdutton> dviola, to test, you can just copy the arch one onto the ubuntu pc. It should work.
[23:39] <dviola> when I booted the ubuntu 18.04.1 live USB the graphics were corrupted, so installing ubuntu was a pain... it went away after I rebooted to the new installation, it seems like one of the updates fixed it
[23:39] <dviola> but it still has issues with stability...
[23:40] <jcdutton> dviola, make sure you copy all of /lib/modules/...18.9...   as well.
[23:40] <dviola> hrm
[23:40] <jcdutton> arch one. i.e. the kernel on the arch pc
[23:41] <dviola> both installs are on the same computer
[23:41] <dviola> but yes, I guess I can do that
[23:41] <jcdutton> dviola, you can use the arch kernel and still run ubuntu
[23:41] <dviola> or I can compile a new kernel using the /proc/config.gz config
[23:42] <dviola> right
[23:42] <jcdutton> dviola, that will also work.
[23:43] <dviola> right, I think I will do that, thanks
[23:46] <miceiken> Hey guys, I need some help. I recently installed Ubuntu 18.04 on a ASUS laptop with Intel process and Intel HD graphics. Whenever I watch videos it, the video will periodically chop, as in freeze for up to several seconds at a time.
[23:46] <miceiken> processor*
[23:48] <miceiken> Any ideas on how to fix that?
[23:50] <riotz> miceiken, i had some similar problems a while ago. my problem was an erroneous hdmi cable
[23:51] <riotz> while researching i also stumbled upon a thread where some people did had such problems because they set the wrong refresh rate for their monitor
[23:51] <miceiken> this is on the laptop display though
[23:51] <riotz> oh
[23:51] <riotz> well.. no clue
[23:51] <riotz> maybe open htop and check computer resource usage
[23:51] <riotz> probably cpu or ram is on its limits
[23:52] <miceiken> worked fine on Windows. might be the browser, ill try firefox
[23:52] <ducasse> look at dmesg output for errors
[23:52] <toddc> bandwith issue or driver used
[23:52] <riotz> yeah.. changing browsers wont fix it i bet
[23:56] <Bashing-om> miceiken: Nvidia graphics card also in this laptop ? Updated driver: http://albertomilone.com/blog/?p=670 for testing.
[23:58] <miceiken> apparently it was chromium, firefox seems fine
[23:59] <ChaiTRex> miceiken: You can try turning on or off the hardware acceleration in Chromium options.