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ChaiTRexmiceiken: Advanced options, I mean.00:00
WoCis there an easy way of injecting a package as installed, without actually installing it ?00:09
tgm4883WoC: why?00:09
WoClibgles1 & nvidia-340 have conflicting files and i need to inject libgles1 as installed00:11
WoCand i cant remove nvidia-34000:11
WoCthat would have me with no gfx driver00:11
WoCAnd nouv* is useless for me00:12
WoCsuggestions tgm4883 ?00:16
tgm4883WoC: Still not clear what you're after here. Do you need libgles1 to show as installed because it's the dependency for something else or do you need the files that are in libgles1 actually installed even though some are in nvidia-34000:18
WoCyup, deps00:19
WoCso it seems i either fake an installed libgles1, or switch to a different distro00:20
tgm4883WoC: looks like you might be able to use a command like this    sudo apt-get -o Dpkg::Options::="--force-overwrite" install --reinstall <packagename>00:20
WoCk, ty trying00:21
tgm4883which I would think would overwrite the files in nvidia-340 with the ones in libgles1, but I suppose this could break things00:21
agile_prghi all, I heard there is a place that will give me a temporary server to log into, do you know if that exists?00:22
tgm4883agile_prg: AWS?00:22
agile_prgI guess so, not sure00:23
tgm4883agile_prg: well AWS does have servers that you could spin up and log into, and there's a free tier if you haven't used them before00:23
agile_prghmm... ok00:24
FortKnightamazon aws free option is still "metered" so depending on the intended application you might still get a bill00:25
WoCty tgm4883 looks like working with the same for nvidia-340 after, so it still have the right files00:25
FortKnightgood luck00:25
tgm4883WoC: cool, glad that worked for yo00:26
agile_prgI am ubuntu hell, I try to do apt-get install and it says things like:  The following packages have unmet dependencies: but is not going to be installed00:26
WoC\/\/underbar ;]00:26
WoCagile_prg, i guess you too have nvidia gfx?00:27
tgm4883agile_prg: you should start with how you got in this situation00:27
leftyfbagile_prg: and the version of ubuntu you're runnin00:28
leftyfbg00:28
agile_prgok00:30
leftyfbagile_prg: sooooo... did you actually want help?00:35
agile_prgsorry got interrupted, here I go, forgive me00:37
agile_prgubuntu wily 15.1000:47
agile_prgI think I added a repository, tried to install something and it messed up all the dependencies00:48
Bashing-om!16.10 | agile_prg00:49
ubottuagile_prg: Ubuntu Ubuntu 16.10 (Yakkety Yak) was the 25th release of Ubuntu.  Support ended on July 20th, 2017. See !eol and https://ubottu.com/y/yakkety00:49
agile_prghttps://pastebin.com/ApVvdpVv00:49
agile_prgthat is the pastbin of what I am seeing00:49
agile_prgwell I am open to suggestions on how to proceed00:50
mousesagile_prg: that's a weird log00:51
Bashing-omagile_prg: post ' lsb_release -a ' output .00:51
ducasse!eolupgrade | agile_prg first read this, as wily is long since dead00:52
ubottuagile_prg first read this, as wily is long since dead: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades00:52
leftyfbagile_prg: install 18.04 and restore from backup. That is your best option and probably the only one you're going to get any help with here.00:54
agile_prghere is what lsb_release -a https://pastebin.com/arKyFTaT00:54
agile_prgrestore from a backup to where exactly?00:54
leftyfbagile_prg: install 18.04. Then copy your files back from the backup you have or are planning to make00:55
leftyfbagile_prg: if you don't have any backups, then your data isn't important, so that makes things a bit simpler. Just install Ubuntu 18.04 and you'll be good to go.00:56
leftyfbagile_prg: good luck00:56
agile_prgI wish I could install it without deleting everything :<01:02
leftyfbagile_prg: you could, but it'll be a lot easier to just restore from backup01:03
agile_prgwell ok01:04
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gorginatorYou should change the topic into 'restore from backup'01:28
leftyfbgorginator: Are you suggesting that people should not keep backups?01:38
gorginatornot at all01:38
gorginatorrestoring from backup is still a pain in the a* when you have to reinstall all kind of programs01:39
gorginator'just restore from backup' isn't always so easy01:40
gorginatoreven if you have a backup of the files01:40
leftyfbgorginator: agile_prg is running a version which went out of support 3 years ago. To do an in-place upgrade across 5 versions of ubuntu will take hours upon hours and leave you in a very unstable state.01:40
leftyfbgorginator: copying a /home directory and running apt-get on a handful of package names is pretty easy01:40
gorginatorsure if you only have to run apt-get01:41
gorginator(you also gave me the advise to restore from backup)01:41
leftyfbgorginator: there's a reason why we only support installing applications via apt or snap. Anything else is obviously going to take longer and more complicated since it's usually compiling from source.01:42
leftyfbgorginator: right, because you were running an unsupported version of ubuntu01:42
leftyfbgorginator: there are ways to do fresh installs over old installations and still keep your files. But it'll be a lot quicker and cleaner to just install from scratch and restore.01:43
gorginatorif you have a backup, files aren't the issue, it's the programs01:44
gorginatorand system settings01:44
leftyfbgorginator: again, sudo apt install <package1> <package2> <package3> <and so on>01:45
leftyfbgorginator: settings are stored in your home directory01:45
gorginatoralso like mime settings?01:45
leftyfbgorginator: if you're doing more advanced settings such as in /etc, then just make a backup of /etc as well. I use my laptop more than most and my /etc is 30MB. It'll take under a minute to back it up.01:46
leftyfbthough I do not suggest just copying that backup directly back to /etc. It's meant for reference to reconfigure any files you need to modify.01:50
Galactor_Hello! can anyone recommend a set of earbuds/very light weight headphones that are bluetooth, microphone, and work well with lubuntu?02:07
BloopMonsterOMG #javascript02:07
leftyfbGalactor_: any of them should work with ubuntu. If you want recommendations on hardware try #hardware02:09
Sven_vBdoes anyone happen to have a bionic or trusty or xenial live session running atm and could copy the "ubuntu" user line from /etc/passwd for me?02:17
Sven_vBgorginator, user-specific MIME settings are in ~/.local/share/mime/ usually02:19
leftyfbSven_vB: You could boot a live session using a virtual machine02:20
Sven_vBGalactor_, I can recommend using separate bluetooth audio receivers where you plug in your traditional earphones. that way you can keep them in your ear when you change the low-battery receiver for the one you've just recharged. ;)02:21
Sven_vBleftyfb, that's my fallback plan. :)02:22
FortKnightfallback02:23
gorginatorSven_vB: ubuntu:x:999:999:Live session user,,,:/home/ubuntu:/bin/bash02:24
Sven_vBgorginator, thanks!02:24
Netwolfdoes anyone here use brotli02:48
leftyfbNetwolf: are you taking a survey?02:53
Netwolfleftyfb: maybe. Just asking if anyone has it enabled. I just did and was looking for anyone else that uses it02:54
leftyfbNetwolf: This is a support channel. If you have a support question, please detail the issue you are having. Otherwise, conduct surveys or general discussions in #ubuntu-offtopic02:55
Netwolfah sorry02:55
vegombreihi, ive got an external drive, what partition should i03:10
vegombrei                   format it to work best with lubuntu? and whats a good disk03:10
vegombrei                   manager software?03:10
vegombreihi, ive got an external drive, what partition should i03:11
vegombrei                   format it to work best with lubuntu? and whats a good disk03:11
vegombrei                   manager software?03:11
vegombreiive got an external drive, what partition should iformat it to work best with lubuntu? and whats a good disk manager software?03:16
krytarik!patience | vegombrei03:17
ubottuvegombrei: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or https://ubuntuforums.org or https://askubuntu.com/03:17
vegombrei!eatme | krytarik03:24
hggdhvegombrei: please don't. We do follow a code of conduct here.03:37
okovkoi'm configuring postfix incorrectly and i'm not sure where to get started debugging it. i don't have any meaningful output when i send myself an email; it just doesn't go through. how can i probe what it's actually doing?03:46
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midnightmagicI'm recompiling a kernel. Is there some easy method of appending a CONFIG_LOCALVERSION to my custom kernel using debian/rules makefile that I'm just completely missing? manually editing config.common* just results in a broken build.04:27
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midnightmagicoh. nvm. Found just the right wiki page.04:30
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rz1aI’m running Ubuntu 16.04 and when at the login screen it’s different now, it says Ubuntu14 and the login prompt also changed. Any idea how to change this?05:35
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EriC^^!ping05:42
ubottupong!05:42
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guivercrz1a, the login or greeter screen is dictated by display manager usually (lightdm, gdm3 etc), some allow you to change backgrounds, display text - so it could be consequence of a change to your config at some time;  `lightdm` is default of 16.04 with `unity-greeter` - and this may help changing the text/login-greeter config (if it's that) https://askubuntu.com/questions/797845/how-do-i-change-the-login-screen-in-ubuntu-1606:05
guiverc-0406:05
ZaZaQRhttps://preview.ibb.co/b4LQSU/Screenshot_from_2018_09_22_22_56_15.png06:20
ZaZaQRhow do i delete the file icon and the 0ad icon in activities?06:20
ZaZaQRi can't right click and remove as favorites06:22
lotuspsychje_ZaZaQR: thats something you installed thats not going away?06:24
ZaZaQRyup06:24
lotuspsychje_ZaZaQR: can you recall the packagename?06:24
ZaZaQR0ad06:25
ZaZaQRon snap06:25
lotuspsychje_ZaZaQR: did you try to remove the snap from terminal?06:25
ZaZaQRi believe so06:25
acresearchpeople is ubuntu a rolling release?06:27
lotuspsychje_ZaZaQR: sudo snap remove 0ad06:27
ZaZaQRsnap "0ad" is not installed06:27
lotuspsychje_ZaZaQR: did you already remove it?06:28
ZaZaQRye06:28
ZaZaQRyes06:28
lotuspsychje_ZaZaQR: did you reboot after remove yet?06:29
ZaZaQRno i did not06:29
lotuspsychje_ZaZaQR: can you try? perhaps its still in memory06:29
lotuspsychje_acresearch: no06:29
lotuspsychje_!updates | acresearch06:30
lotuspsychje_!upgrade | acresearch06:30
ubottuacresearch: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade06:30
ZaZaQRso the file icon is gone on the buttom.06:31
lotuspsychje_!yay | ZaZaQR06:32
ubottuZaZaQR: Glad you made it! :-)06:32
ZaZaQRbut i can't remove the big icon06:32
pi0how do i check how much disk space is partitioned for /home06:32
ZaZaQRin the show applications button06:32
zferon 18.04 LTS where is the log of suspend/hibernate ?06:32
lotuspsychje_ZaZaQR: still there?06:32
ZaZaQRyes06:32
acresearchlotuspsychje_: because i read on distro watch that snapshot cosmic is a rolling release (not sure what snapshot cosmic is)06:33
lotuspsychje_ZaZaQR: did you install from gnome software or terminal snap?06:33
ZaZaQRterminal snap06:33
lotuspsychje_ZaZaQR: ok not sure then, maybe try a system cleanup with bleachbit, it still got leftovers?06:33
guivercacresearch, Ubuntu releases are not rolling; releases come out every six months (april & october)  with one a LTS or long-term-support once every two years06:34
ZaZaQRegh06:35
acresearchguiverc: ok06:36
humblewolfI'm unable to ping a machine(A) from one specific machine(B), both are ubuntu machines , how to debug ??? A is accessible from any machine except B, B can access any machine except A. it all happened after doing 'docker-machine create' , afaik it does some network changes ....06:37
wendicoHello everybody, i am trying to install ubuntu on a disk that allready have 4 used primary partitions. Is it posible to convert the last partition as logical? or i must back up data, delete and create new logical? Thank you all.06:42
guivercwendico, you can't convert a primary to extended (without re-creating it & loosing data) to my knowledge...  gpt (guid partition table) however allows >4 [primary] partitions06:44
wendicoguiverc: how can i check if posible on gparted if i have or not a guid partition table? Im on gparted on the affected machine. Thank you very much.06:47
wendicoDevice information says: Partition Table: msdos06:48
guivercwendico, you don't have gpt given it said 'msdos' :(  so 4 is your 'max'06:49
wendicomay i convert that msdos to gpt? all my file systems on the partitions are ext2, swap and ext4, im not using dos or windows06:50
wendicoso i could then shrink the 4th partition and create more06:51
guivercmsdos in that case does not have a relationship to msdos/windows, just the partition table compatible with old msdos/windows -- you'd have to create a gpt partition-table which would destroy the mbr/msdos/partition-table wiping your data - i'm not aware of any means to 'convert'06:53
wendicoThank you very much so, if not planned to use dos or windows, would you recommend to back up my partitions, wipe disk and create a new gpt partition table? im going to need only ext2, swap, ext3 and ext4 file systems.06:55
guivercwendico, your choice; backup always a good idea!! so first step regardless of what you do is backup.  you could delete only what you need to create the required space, then re-create as extended as originally asked allowing an extra one; or re-do them all - whatever best fits your needs07:01
wendicoguiverc, thank you very much, full back up in progress. is there more advantages than having more than 4 primary partitions on a gpt partition table? so i can decide if start over or just delete my 4th primary partitions? Thank you in advance07:06
wendicocould you point me to a link where i can learn easy about gpt partitions tables. I am planning to install androidx86 on that machine (never dos or windows) so i want to make sure what partition table i should use that it is compatible with android07:07
guiverci can't think of any (advantages for >4 partitions);  i think of gpt's advantage as >2tb primarily07:07
wendicoguiverc: thank you very much, then you just solved my problem and i took decision, my disk is very small hehe.07:08
wendicoso im going for the easy fast option of just delete 4th partition and make extended leaving msdos partition table. Thank you very much again07:09
guiverci'm not aware of any good/great howto/wiki/guides on partitioning (esp. gtp) sorry07:10
wendicoguiverc, dont worry more, since my disk is very small, i will just keep my msdos partition table07:11
guivercwendico, take a look at https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Gdisk#Convert_between_MBR_and_GPT -- it mentions converting mbr to gpt !!  (gdisk, sgdisk... but I've not used them)07:12
wendicoguiverc, and thank you very much anyways07:12
wendicoguiverc, i take a look while back up ends, i always want to know more07:12
guivercyou're most weltall wendico   (i'd stick with mbr too; sticking with what I know..)07:12
wendiconew question (while backing up) im trying to make a bootable usb with more than one iso, i tryed to install unetbootin on my ubuntu 18 machine but somehow that app does not work on my machine. Do you know any other app for my ubuntu 18 to make multi boot usb? thank you very much07:14
guivercnot me sorry; maybe someone else will know wendico07:15
wendicoguiverc, ^^^ ty, dont worry, ill wait for anybody else that have an answer.07:16
ducassewendico: https://www.pendrivelinux.com/multiboot-create-a-multiboot-usb-from-linux/07:16
wendicoducasse, ^^^ thank you very much07:16
ducassewendico: you're most welcome07:17
ducassewendico: i can't comment on that tool as i've never used it, but i've seen people recommending it here07:17
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wendicoThank you very much, im on it07:20
wendicoi used unetbootin years ago and worked very good, but trying that script asap07:21
wendicoi dont want to bother trying to fix unetbootin07:21
wendicothe advantage of unetbootin is that it has a large list of distros that can be selected, downloaded and installed from within the app07:22
wendicobut i really dont care now, so im trying pendrivelinux.07:23
ducassewendico: let us know if it doesn't work, so we can look for something else07:34
wendicoill let you know asap for sure, the script allready on my desktop but im downloading iso files and making breakfast for my kids07:36
ducassepriorities :)07:38
wendicodownloading will be slow, so i wont be able to let you know soon, maybe half an hour or so, im on the mountain and have only 3g connection07:38
ducasseask lotuspsychje_ if you run into problems, he was the one who told me about it07:38
okovkohow do i set up my ubuntu vm to have a static public ip?07:42
TaZeRubuntu the holy grail...07:42
okovkoi know i need to edit /etc/network/interfaces and it has something to do with my vm8 adapter on my host machine07:42
okovkobut i'm confused about the details07:42
TaZeRwhich hypervisor are u using? there should be a setting to make it bridged instead of nat07:43
okovkoTaZeR vmware player. will making it bridged let me ping it from outside my network?07:45
TaZeRit should just be seen like another pc on the network and get a dhcp ip, so yes07:45
okovkoTaZeR my host machine has a dynamic ip i think, would that mean a bridged guest machine will have a dynamic ip as well?07:46
ducasseokovko: which ubuntu version is this?07:46
okovkoducasse ubuntu 18.0407:46
okovkohost is win1007:46
ducasseokovko: then use netplan instead of the interfaces file07:46
ducasse!netplan07:46
ubottuNetplan is a network configuration abstraction renderer which uses YAML descriptions of a network to work with either a NetworkManager or Systemd-networkd "renderer". More information at https://netplan.io/07:46
TaZeRyea just make sure firewall is configured properly if ur running one, and use something like a free dyndns service07:47
TaZeRi have cron just automatically run a script later that updates my machine if my ip changes07:47
TaZeRhttps://freedns.afraid.org/ is the one i use07:48
okovkoi grabbed a domain name from godaddy and i'm using cloudfare for the nameservers, i want to point it to my vm running on my win10 machine. i'm not sure where the dyndns service comes in if i'm doing that07:49
okovkoisn't freedns.afraid.org similar to godaddy for grabbing name.afraid.org domain names? is the dyndns service another service that they offer?07:50
okovkoTaZeR i disconnected there for a sec, if you've still got a second to help out :P  i'm just trying to figure this stuff out for the first time07:54
broylesQuestion, (done some googling but might not be using the right terms), when I am switching consoles, from X to the terminal it looks like gnome is auto suspending my session, stopping music and anything running (not sure on that bit tho), I have disabled lock screen and power saving, but its still doing it, any ideas how to stop it at all?08:02
okovkoTaZeR thanks for sending me in the right direction, i'm setting up dyndns through cloudfare08:18
guivercbroyles, if I switch from my gui session to an unused terminal (ctrl+alt+f5 say), my music stops, but if i login at the text terminal as me, my music continues...  (i know nothing more though sorry)08:22
broylesguiverc, ty :) going to have a dig around tho its something thats got my interest now :)08:23
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greenEarthDo you know how to encapsulate amule in a virtual machine or in a firewall to protect the host computer?08:44
wendicogreenEarth: you just answered your question in your own words. Install the virtual machine, add a network interface not connected to the host, disable any sharing to the host then install your system and amule on the virtual machine09:33
enzotiblenny_lemon: paste the file09:38
enzotibsorry, I was reading an old message, forget me, please09:39
mousesenzotib: happens to the best of us <309:45
wendicoim using instructions of this recommended link https://www.pendrivelinux.com/multiboot-create-a-multiboot-usb-from-linux/ but i cant run in terminal on terminal as showed on the pictures, i dont get the pop up window to run in terminal09:45
wendicowhat is the command so i can run that script straight from terminal?09:45
wendicoso my question is, from terminal, how can i run the sh script to install the program on my ubuntu? thank you09:47
KristhianI am having a problem connecting to my vps "ssh_excange_identification" connection closed by remote host09:51
KristhianWhat should i do?09:51
KristhianPlease help09:51
KristhianProblem happpened when i enable ufw09:55
KristhianI installed nginx09:55
KristhianUbuntu 18.04x6409:55
nisankhindia_Kristhian: i have joined lately , could you please mention your issue once more09:57
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KristhianIm not able to connect to my vps "ssh_exchange_identification" connection closed by remote host - this happened after enabling ufw09:59
nisankhindia_Kristhian: ok , do you have any access to your vps provider control panel, and can you name your provider10:00
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KristhianYes i have access to control panel and provider is vultr10:02
nisankhindia_Kristhain: remember UFW’s defaults are to deny all incoming connections and allow all outgoing connections. This means anyone trying to reach your cloud server would not be able to connect, while any application within the server would be able to reach the outside world.10:02
nisankhindia_Kristhian: you have to go through your VPS web control panel now , use web login to your VPS , than allow port 22 using UFW10:03
nisankhindia_Kristhian: name of your provider so that i have give you any further hint how to do so10:04
KristhianOk, ill take note of that10:05
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okovkodoes anyone here have experience setting up a public ip for ubuntu running in vmware?10:05
KristhianProvider name is vultr10:05
okovkoi bridged the connection so my guest os is in my private network, and now i need it to be accessible from the internet10:05
nisankhindia_Kristhian: wait for a while10:05
KristhianOk10:07
nisankhindia_Kristhian: snapshot resetting can do the thing , but better go through web access give the root credetials and than configure UFW to allow port 22 as well as any other available services ( e.g http port 80 etc etc )10:07
nisankhindia_Kristhian: in future before commiting anything to servers read the basics about setting things from here https://www.server-world.info/en/note?os=Ubuntu_18.04 , this is just a note keeping portal regarding server basic works10:08
toddcssh should be port 22 by default10:09
KristhianThanks nisankhindia_, ill just do this in a computer10:09
KristhianIm using my mobile  phone atm10:09
KristhianI can access console but couldnt type anything10:10
nisankhindia_Kristhian : have a PC .. for now take these notes as guide10:11
KristhianThanks again10:11
nisankhindia_okovko: set your network to bridged . Then set port forwarding in your router to send server traffic to the guest.  If you don't have a router you can probably configure this using NAT10:15
okovkonisankhindia_ i want to host a server on my workstation laptop, so i want this to be independent of my router. i already set up dynamic dns, how i'm trying to figure out how i can get a public IP for my guest OS10:17
okovkonow* i'm trying to figure out10:17
nisankhindia_okovko: Bridged mode means the VMware guest is an autonomous networked device on the LAN. Meaning it can be handled like any other (physical) networked device10:18
wendicohttps://www.pendrivelinux.com/multiboot-create-a-multiboot-usb-from-linux/ does not work on fresh and updated ubuntu 18.04.1. The scrip just gives "Error xterm". Any clue?10:19
gpunkdo xhost + in your terminal as your own user10:20
gpunkunless xterm is not installed10:20
okovkonisankhindia_ thanks for your help10:22
wendicogpunk.^^^ Done with echo "access control disabled...." Same error running  pendrivelinux sh "Error: xterm"10:24
gpunkis xterm installed?10:24
wendicoxterm not installed, just doing it10:24
wendicoty10:24
gpunk:)10:24
wendicogpunk: awesome script running. ty.10:25
gpunkwlc10:25
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Apachezany of you who have experienced that when using ubuntu netinstall it takes 5 seconds per file download attempt so it takes very long to complete the installation?10:57
wendicoApachez check latency (ping) between both machines, that may be your issue10:59
Apacheznope 9.5ms11:00
Apachezthe issue seems to be the wget script in netinstall who will take 5 seconds to resolve each download11:00
gpunkmight be DNS related , can you reboot the router?11:01
Apachezbut there are no network issues once its resolved it goes fast to download11:01
wendicoit seems to me a network related issue, dns, netbios names.... etc11:01
Apachezhow can I debug what the netinstall or rather wget is acutally trying to do?11:01
Apachezother boxes on the same switch resolves fine11:01
ApachezI would guess its somehow ipv6 related11:02
Apacheztty2 says there is a linklocal v6 but I would guess wget still waits for something v6 related before giving up and go for v4 anyway11:02
wendicosnort (check your packets transfers with sniffing software)11:02
FortKnightdo you have any experiences with other netinstalls on the in the same network environment that do NOT take 5 seconds to resolve downloads???11:03
blackflowor just tcpdump, really no need to install the whole snort IDS......11:03
Apachezwell only needed to netinstall ubuntu so far11:03
Apachezunfortunately tcpdump isnt included in the mini.iso11:03
FortKnightso no experience to validate it being abnormal11:03
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Apachezwell the same box once isntalled works just fine11:04
Apachezso we can rule out hardware, cable, routers etc11:04
Apachezwhat remains is the behaviour of netinstall (mini.iso) and how wget does things11:04
wendicosnort as hint, but u can use ethercap or similar lighter sniffing software11:04
FortKnightwithout any other experiences with netinstall to compare it to...could be functioning as designed11:04
Apachezhmm11:04
Apachezdoes wget have some nifty debug mode which isnt too obstructed?11:05
blackflowApachez: I'm not sure what the mini iso does specifically but perhaps you could temporarily configure /etc/resolv.conf to use your upstream resolvers directly, bypass systemd-resolved, which often seems to be causing issues.11:05
Apachezblackflow: ill try thAT IN tty211:05
FortKnightafter all you have nothing to directly compare this performance to or against ...keyword "directly"11:05
dchapmanexit11:05
Apachezthe /etc/resolv.conf shows correct nameservers so systemd doesnt seem to interfere there11:06
ApachezFortKnight: well once installed everything is fine so I have that to compare again11:06
Apachezst11:06
FortKnightapples vs oranges comparison11:06
FortKnightnetinstall vs netinstall11:06
Apachezwell sure but this apple to apple compare rules out hardware malfunctions11:07
Apachezwill try debugging wget to hopefully see what its waiting for for each download11:07
glickhi11:08
adrian_1908hi11:08
glickdoes anyone run ubuntu on dell inspiron 17 7000?11:08
glickthinking of buying it wondering if linux runs on it well11:08
gpunkhttps://certification.ubuntu.com/certification/catalog/component/dmi/4755/dmi:Inspiron177000Series7746/11:09
dar123i have to configure dns server in lab, just a domain with couple of A/SRV records. Still bind is the most popular dns server?11:09
gpunkyup11:10
Apachezso something is fishy with resolving in netinstall11:10
blackflowApachez: did you try manually wgetting a packge from another tty?11:11
ppfanyone know of a way to synchronize photos between an android phone and an ubuntu system?11:12
ppf_without_ detour via "the cloud"11:13
blackflowppf: did you try it with Shotwell? I think it is mtp aware and can do "sync" -- assuming you don't mean just "copy over", as that it definitely can. plus you can use the file manager.11:16
ppfblackflow: i was looking more for a permanent backup type solution11:17
blackflowppf: mobile apps are all about cloud. if you don't want cloud, then plug in + copy over is "a way". I don't know if there's any software that can do that automatically when you plug your phone in11:18
Apachezblackflow: yup.. I can clearly see how it hangs for 5 seconds in "resolving" before getting the answer, but other boxes gets answer instantly11:18
ApachezI am now trying to boot the netinstall with ipv6.disable=1 and see how that will affect wget11:18
ppfi'm not looking for a way to do it when the phones plugged in, but always-on11:18
blackflowppf: and you can always script up a solution with rsync that does that. plug your phone in, and run a rsync script that syncs up (not just copy over but "sync" as in delete what's missing on source)11:19
blackflowppf: maybe something based on syncthing? google says there's an android app11:19
ppfinteresting, i hadn't even consided!11:20
ppffwiw i'm using syncthing already for the local network backup :D11:20
ppf(not on the phone though)11:20
blackflowppf: but in general, if you don't want "cloud", you'll have to make your own cloud. always-on, not only when plugged in, requires a server running somwhere, ergo your own personal cloud.11:20
ppfsure,  i can do that11:21
blackflowApachez: can't apt install tcpdump on mini iso's root?11:21
ppfmaybe 'sometimes-on' is nicer though11:21
ppfi.e. only sync with the server at home, not the ones on the internet11:21
blackflowApachez: it should be a regular ubuntu root fs, albeit in ram iirc11:21
blackflowppf: syncthing or see if nextcloud has an android app, and I think I saw one11:22
blackflowyou can install nextcloud on your own server/machine11:22
ppfyeah, but nextcloud is not too happy generally when the other end isn't available11:22
blackflowppf: I'm not sure what you mean, as that's it primary purpose, for clients to be not available always.11:23
Apachezdoesnt seem to exist any apt-get11:23
blackflowI mean, if there's an app, then there's a nextcloud _client_ app, which by design works in "not available always" mode11:23
Apachezthere is an apt-install but apt-install tcpdump  didnt make any difference11:23
blackflowApachez: maybe wget in the .deb of tcpdump and install locall with dpkg -I11:24
blackflow*locally11:24
blackflowsurely there's dpkg?11:24
ppfblackflow: i mean the server11:24
ppfassume i run the server at home, so the phones get to synch whenever they join the wifi11:25
Apacheznope, no dpkg11:26
Apachezthose who created mini.iso at canonical sure made debugging hard :P11:26
Apachezipv6.disable=1 as kernelparam when booting doesnt seem to affect this behaviour11:26
blackflowppf: well in that case I don't know. it does sound weird that nextcloud would have issues with it, even its client app having issues with server being termporarily unavailable. isues other than "no server, can't run at the moment" kind, which is... normal.11:26
Apachezip addr verifies that there are no longer any v6 link local when booted with ipv6.disable=111:27
blackflowApachez: why even use mini. personally I carry the full blown ubuntu desktop iso around and use debootstrap to install servers :)      but... that said, I'm not sure what you can do then. if you can't install tools and there aren't tools present already.11:27
blackflowApachez: also, resolving might be just a red herring. as it's the _first_ step in network comm, could be your ipv6 needs to re-negotiate every time a session is started, so resolving takes longer because it's the first thing wget does11:29
ppfblackflow: yes, syncthing is absolutely perfect for this11:29
blackflowppf: excellent :)11:29
blackflowApachez: tried forcing ipv4?11:30
Apachezfor wget?11:30
ApachezI tried adding    options timeout:1    in /etc/resolv.conf and that affects the wait for wget11:31
Apachezhttps://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/290987/resolving-hostname-takes-5-seconds11:31
jordilai've just created ... ' adduser myuser && passwd myuser ' . I can login as such on tty, but not on XFCE / X session ... what am i missing ?11:32
ppfblackflow: i'm just so confused i hadn't considered it ..11:32
blackflowApachez: right so perhaps try with ipv4 only?11:33
outoftimeHello. Is there any chance to upgrade Ubuntu 14.04 to 16.04\18.04 without reinstalling?11:35
ppfblackflow: cause it just works11:35
Smokiehey guys, the directory /var/www/html is owned by the root user, how can i give /var/www/ access to my user so i dont have to sudo everything i do on any website i do ?11:37
ppfyou _can_, but you shouldn't11:37
Smokieppf, me? why not?11:38
ppfsecurity11:38
Smokiethis is a local server, no access to/from the internet.. and isnt it more risky to run web apps and websites using root user?11:39
Apachezblackflow: yeah, wget -4 http://idg.se   will directly resolve11:39
ppfrather, you should set up some auto-deployment pipeline11:39
blackflowSmokie: there's  ~/public_html/   or ~/htdocs/   kind of a standard for those cases, configure the site to use those dirs, if you want regular user to change stuff there11:39
ppfthe webapps aren't running as root, your nginx/apache has its own user11:39
Smokieblackflow, this is only for me on a local isolated VM11:39
Smokieppf, yeah, but whatever changes i need to do there has to be done with 'sudo'11:40
Smokiei mean the way it is right now11:40
ppfyes, and that's good11:40
blackflowSmokie: right so do that. OR, put /var/www in your user group and set g+w on all dirs. need to sticky that too, for new files to inherit g+w11:40
Apachezblackflow: while wget http://idg.se   will hang for 5 seconds before going for the v4 address11:40
blackflowSmokie: although developing sites under ~/public_html/   on a personal server  /  dev machine,    is better. dont' change system default paths11:41
blackflowApachez: tcpdump would show stuff here. sounds like it's trying AAAA, hangs or doesn't get the answer, retries A, and in total takes longer. Just remove ipv6 then for the installation11:42
Smokieblackflow, id do that using VirtualHost, right?11:42
blackflowSmokie: for Apache? yes11:42
blackflowSmokie: there's even a mod that understands   http://blahblah/~user/   paths and automatically uses ~/public_html11:43
blackflows/paths/URLs11:43
blackflowSmokie: mod_userdir11:43
blackflowSmokie: however, that might break the web app if it's not expecting to be run under //~user/   so then yeah, VirtualHost directive mapping the dev domain of your choice to your ~/11:44
Smokieblackflow, ill read up on that11:45
Apachezblackflow: how to do that?  adding ipv6.disable=1 to kernel during boot of netinstall didnt help11:46
Apachezseems like glibc or whatever is doing the resolving still tries v6 and timesout before going v411:46
Apachezlike old windows systems :(11:46
blackflowApachez: frankly, other than removing ipv6 from network config, I'm not sure11:46
blackflowApachez: ip addr del <public-ipv6-subnet-you-got> dev eth0_or_whatever_device_is_it11:47
Apachezyeah but when booting with ipv6.disable=1 there is never a v6 interface setup11:49
Apachezip addr   displays just v411:50
Apachezwill try manipulating my dns to see if replies only including v4 might resolve this, this wont help people using 8.8.8.8 or 8.8.4.4 but will resolve my issues at least11:50
glickim trying to find a decent computer that will allow me to edit photos well11:50
blackflowApachez: so why would it try to resolve via ipv6? or hummm... yes... I think resolving will try AAAA always.... lemme check11:50
glickusing darktable11:50
glickany suggestions11:50
glickmy 2013 macbook is starting to get long in the tooth11:51
fubHi. I want to restore some files from an (I think encrypted) dejadup backup. I selected the folder -> restore folder and dejadup opens. It finds my backup on my external drive. Then I select "forward" and Im on the "Restore.. Preparing" screen where nothing happens.11:53
fubnvm, just as I wrote it worked. Seems like restoring takes time, even for just a few files.11:53
Apachezblackflow: adding   options single-request    or      options single-request-reopen    seems to fix the behaviour11:54
blackflowApachez: right, gai.conf, try this:    https://community.rackspace.com/products/f/public-cloud-forum/5110/how-to-prefer-ipv4-over-ipv6-in-ubuntu-and-centos11:54
blackflowApachez: oh that too, as it removes parallelization of A/AAAA11:54
Apachezexcept that netinstall lacks /etc/gai.conf :(11:58
Apachezthe proper fix seems to be to include options single-request and/or options single-request-reopen  in /etc/resolv.conf12:04
Apachezhow do I file this as a complaint? ;)  feature request for the people maintaining the mini.iso ?12:04
jordilaoutoftime ... we are on the same boat ... (we always did) 'Hi again, Is there any chance to upgrade Ubuntu 14.04 to 16.04\18.04 without reinstalling? '12:08
aswsdDoes Ubuntu runs better on Hyper-V than Virtualbox? https://blog.ubuntu.com/2018/09/17/optimised-ubuntu-desktop-images-available-in-microsoft-hyper-v-gallery?_ga=2.250540998.1598578804.1537704939-1299210311.153770493912:23
blackflowjordila: outoftime: not sure if you can upgrade straight from 14.04 to 18.04, but it should be possible through 16.04, thus in two steps12:31
blackflow!upgrade12:32
ubottuFor upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade12:32
blackflowApachez: not sure there's anything to fix. I think that thing is meant to be quickly deployed from an installation image, that's why it's a "mini" ISO. there's always regulard desktop/server isos, fully featured, that you can (de)bootstrap your installation from.12:33
ruffleSOn a Dell XPS 14 (L421X) notebook running Ubuntu 18.04 I can't set screen brightness using Fn + F4 / Fn + F5. Anyone?12:34
Apachezblackflow: well sure but the mini.iso is official for alternative downloads netinstall12:36
Apachezhttps://www.ubuntu.com/download/alternative-downloads   ->  http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/bionic-updates/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/mini.iso12:37
Apachezso it would be great if the mini.iso would be fixed to include   options single-request   in its /etc/resolv.conf12:37
blackflowApachez: but why? it's not a bug, this is specific to your use case12:38
blackflowyour upstream either misconfiugred ipv6 or isn't caching12:39
Sven_vBwhat's that clock screen called that shows up in Bionic when I'm inactive for too long?12:58
Sven_vBs~I'm~my input devices are~12:58
Apachezblackflow: I have seen this elsewhere with people grumbling that ubuntu is slow for netinstall so its not just me12:58
Apachezbut since i got a usecase on front row I spent some time to identify a proper fix12:58
Apachezno reason for why canonical wouldnt add this fix in resolv.conf for mini.iso12:59
Apachezthere is no negative impact12:59
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Sven_vBbing seems to think that clock screen is the "lock" screen… is that the same? because the settings panel shows the lock screen as disabled13:09
blackflowApachez: they probably won't because that'll affect users with working ipv6. But you can always try and file a bug report on the launchpad, not sure against which package/product, tho'13:10
blackflowApachez: you can use this link, because reporting bugs directly is very much discouraged, but I guess acceptable in this case:   https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug/?no-redirect13:12
Sven_vBlooks like it might have been the "screen blanking". I'd have thought "blanking" would show a black screen, not the wall time. =)13:15
wendicoguiverc, ducasse: https://www.pendrivelinux.com/multiboot-create-a-multiboot-usb-from-linux/ worked good but instructions are not correct. Need install xterm and must manually execute script from terminal. Thank you.13:28
wendicosorry for so late feedback13:28
ducassewendico: thanks for letting us know, we'll keep that in mind the next time someone asks13:29
ring0how can unattended-upgrades also update packages from the partner repo? /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/50unattended-upgrades only provides options for security, updates, proposed and backports13:30
ducassewendico: glad it worked out for you :)13:30
wendicoducasse, also not all iso are suported, for example, cm-x86_64.r2.iso from androidx86 is not supported13:31
wendicothank you very much though for the help13:31
Moulinhello guys. just remind me: sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=2M status=progress, is the correct command to zero out a HDD, right?13:31
ppfMoulin: yes13:33
outoftimeCan anybody help me with dist-upgrade 14.04 to 18.04?13:35
Moulinppf, thanks :D13:35
Moulin!eol13:35
ubottuEnd-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades13:35
Moulinoutoftime, ^13:35
outoftimeI want to upgrade Ubuntu 14.04.5 so it is still not EOL13:38
outoftimeAccording to13:38
outoftimehttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases13:38
outoftimeWhy 'sudo do-release-upgrade -d' sad "No new release found"?13:42
ppf-d only brings you from latest to development13:43
ppfwhich version to you want to upgrade to13:43
outoftimelatest13:43
DoowHi, I'm trying to set up a custom keyboard (ubuntu 18.04), nothing peculiar about the system. I want to inherit the one I'm currently using. I google a bit and found about 5 different guides, and they all say slightly different things.13:43
DoowI just want to add a couple of characters (swedish ones) to the american keyboard13:44
Doowsofar I13:44
DoowI13:44
ppfoutoftime: just do-release-upgrade brings you to the latest13:45
DoowI'm not even sure what exactly is being used13:45
outoftimeppf: I have started `sudo do-release-upgrade` and waiting for it to finish13:45
ppfokay, does it work?13:45
ppfbecause "skipping" releases is not specifically supported13:45
wk-workhey there having some errors trying to upgrade from 14.04.5 to 16.04 : https://pastebin.com/raw/69iBLhn5 - as far as i can see, those paths dont seem to exist on the repo13:46
outoftimeppf: I says that it needs to download 1.5G in order to upgrade and about 80 packages not supported13:46
outoftimeppf: *it says13:46
ppfwell i guess you'll see if it works :)13:47
outoftimeppf: it touches xenial, is it 18 ?13:47
wk-workhey there having some errors trying to upgrade from 14.04.5 to 16.04 : https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/9MPQPQ945z/ - as far as i can see, those paths dont seem to exist on the repo. is there anything i need to do prior to upgrading ?13:49
livingdaylightHello. Have very old hardware, 'core-duo' processor What would be a suiutable window manager? Mate or xfce or lighter?13:49
outoftimelivingdaylight: I have even older processor and standard WM works fine13:50
outoftimewk-work: I'm trying to upgrade 14.04.5 right now, for now I can see no errors13:52
livingdaylightI don't know why, my machine is very slow... don't remember if it its 2 or 4gb ram... I looked on elementrary and they said ideally minimum should be i3 processor.... you're saying standard gnome is fine?13:52
wk-workoutoftime: thanks, but that doesnt help me :) how does your source.list look like ?13:52
outoftimewk-work: "http://ua.archive/ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ xenial..."13:53
outoftimelivingdaylight: I have PC with athlon x2 and I'm using it as development machine. Is had 10G RAM and uses SSD for OS related data and programs. All user data on HDD.13:56
dptcI've logged onto my laptop today to find that I can log in and use programs but my local files are unaccessable. Moreover, my dropbox folder is said to been relocated despite that not being the case. Is there any known bugs with recent updates that could cause this?13:56
dptcin fact, the only directories that exist using the ls command are snap and template, which I had made months ago.13:57
outoftimewk-work: You sad that you have upgraded to 16.04 but in your sources list links to 14.0413:58
outoftimewk-work: what `lsb_release -a` says?13:58
livingdaylightoutoftime: this is an old dell 530s Dug it out of the cupboard recently... nice to get some life out of it13:59
wk-workthat's not what I said, I said I'm having issues updating to 16.04 from 14.04.513:59
outoftimewk-work: same to me, I have all of error before I have finaly started upgrade13:59
wk-workhey there having some errors trying to upgrade from 14.04.5 to 16.04 : https://pastebin.com/raw/69iBLhn5 - as far as i can see, those paths dont seem to exist on the repo14:00
wk-workhmm14:00
outoftimewk-work: I have intalled apt-transport-https first14:00
wk-worki've already got that14:00
outoftimewk-work: that I have ignorred warning and update phase as well as `apt-get` and started to use `apt`14:00
FortKnightdptc: are you chatting from the computer right now?14:01
outoftimewk-work: I have also installed update-manager-core14:01
outoftimewk-work: then I have tried few timed `sudo apt dist-upgrade` and last command I have tried you can find in this chat above14:03
outoftimelivingdaylight: Have you tried to install latest ubuntu and turn off all visual effects?14:04
livingdaylightoutoftime: no, haven't tbh. What DE does Ubuntu ship with these days?  I haven't tried default Ubuntu since Unity days14:06
ppflivingdaylight: gnome14:06
ppfbut you might just install a more tiny DE14:07
ppfor maybe run a bare WM?14:07
wk-workoutoftime: I'm blind. ddebs was in sources.list.d14:09
wk-workremoved that and we're good to go14:09
livingdaylightYea, gnome feels its gonna give me a poor experience14:09
dar123how can i verify which files are installed by a package, need to see all the files and directories14:09
dar123installed the package using apt install14:09
outoftimedar123: have you seen https://serverfault.com/questions/88510/how-do-i-show-the-actions-that-installing-a-deb-package-will-take ?14:13
dar123 'dpkg --listfiles packagename' works14:14
dar123thanks14:14
outoftimelmgtfy works14:14
Exterminadorlivingdaylight: I have xubuntu installed and I like the xfce DE that's shipped with14:24
Exterminadorperhaps you could give it a go?14:24
livingdaylightExterminador: thx14:24
Exterminadorit's probably one of the most lightweight DEs you'll encounter (imho)14:25
doreiI've just installed unity @ ubuntu18, no more depression and sadness caused by the ugliness of ubuntu18 :)14:33
usr123https://dpaste.de/CF7i I get this error when I try and open emacs shell14:34
outoftimedorei: is it so bad with default settings?14:34
outoftimeusr123: using vim...14:34
usr123outoftime: I'm sorry?14:36
outoftimeusr123: `ls /usr/bin/zsh`14:36
doreioutoftime: it is confusing and some thinks seems pointless, like that bar at the top14:36
BluesKajHowdy folks14:36
outoftimeusr123: what output do you have?14:37
usr123outoftime: There is not dir like that, I uninstalled zsh14:37
outoftimeusr123: looks like emacs is shell script with shebang to /usr/bin/zsh install it back or change shebang14:38
outoftimeusr123: it will not work if script uses some zsh specific calls14:39
usr123outoftime: How do I change the shebang?14:39
outoftimeusr123: vim or nano $(which emacs)14:39
usr123outoftime: It looks binary14:40
outoftimeusr123: `emacs | nc termbin.com 9999`14:42
outoftimeusr123:  not sure it will redirect errors14:42
outoftimeusr123: use `&>` instead of pipe14:43
outoftimeusr123: `emacs &> nc termbin.com 9999`14:43
outoftimeusr123: what do you have?14:50
Moulinis it supposed to zero out a HDD to take like 2h (it's a 500GB HDD)?14:50
outoftimeMoulin: do you want to use `dd`?14:51
MoulinI'm currently zeroing it out using dd14:52
MoulinI've typed: sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=2M status=progress14:53
outoftimeMoulin: speed depends on block size you choose14:53
Moulinnext time I'll choose like bs=4M then xD14:53
outoftimeMoulin: I'm using 8M when making bootalbe USB sticks, do not know what is the best choice for HDD14:54
Moulinalthough seems to be almost done (490GB done)14:54
outoftimeMoulin: there no flush yet14:54
Moulinnope. doesn't seem so14:54
outoftimeflush takes most of the time14:54
outoftimeMoulin: I do not remember command, but I usually using it after `dd` to ensure everything is in sync with fs14:55
Moulinfunny fact is that the laptop started to zero out the HDD at a speed of about 400MB/s and now it's only 50MB/s14:56
outoftimeMoulin: `man sync`14:56
blackandblue# Recommended location for database14:56
blackandbluedb_file            "~/.config/mpd/database"14:56
blackandblue# Logs to systemd journal14:56
blackandbluelog_file           "syslog"14:56
blackandblue# The music directory is by default the XDG directory, uncomment to amend and choose a different directory14:56
blackandblue#music_directory    "~/music"14:56
outoftimeblackandblue: you have to use pastebin to provide multinile output, etc.14:57
outoftimeMoulin: writing speed depends on how close writing sector to center of HDD14:58
outoftime!motd14:58
usr123outoftime: Hey, thanks for all your suggestions15:01
usr123outoftime: So my $SHELL is pointing to /usr/bin/zsh15:02
usr123outoftime: and emacs picked up default from there I guess15:02
usr123outoftime: I changed it to /bin/bash and it worked just now15:02
outoftimeusr123: looks true15:02
usr123outoftime: One question though, my $SHELL still points to /usr/bin/zsh. Any way I can change that?15:03
outoftimeusr123: do not forget to modify ~/.bashrc15:03
usr123outoftime: modify .bashrc to what?15:04
outoftimeusr123: there are bunch of files that executes when user logging in, .bashrc only one of them15:04
usr123outoftime: Ok, Thanks.15:05
outoftimeusr123: $SHELL should be overriden in .bashrc or similar config15:05
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oaulakhcan anyone help with lubuntu here, i updated my system and wifi stop working. i done "lspci" but device not showing15:08
Berenoutoftime: chsh -s /bin/bash15:08
outoftimeBeren: usr123 is who needs help15:09
usr123Beren: Do I need sudo?15:10
ioriaoaulakh, probably you built the module your self and get lost with kernel update ?15:10
Berenoaulakh: does the network device show up in `ip a`?15:10
Berenusr123: no, since you're probably changing for your own user15:12
doreihow can i disable snapd? systemctl disable snapd seems to have no effect :(15:12
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outoftimedorei: you can not disable windows's hand15:12
ioriadorei, not sure, but you need to systemctl stop/disable   snapd-seeded too15:12
oaulakhBeren, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/yxHVxNcqBg/15:12
Sven_vBdorei, try to also mask the service15:12
doreiokie, i think it'd be better to just purge the snap package15:13
oaulakhBeren, mean i try on off wifi but light also not working, is it something wrong with my hardware or os15:13
usr123Beren: I had to do a sudo, it worked15:14
outoftimedorei: do you have problems with snap?15:14
usr123Beren: Thanks15:14
usr123outoftime: Thanks15:14
outoftimeusr123: google for `linux change $SHELL` or similar15:14
xyz111Hi, I seem to have messed up my Lubuntu installation by trying to install wine. Now, mysql won't start and neither will php. Moreover, my shortcuts for atom IDE and google chrome from the main menu seem to have randomly disappeared too. I have no idea how this happened, and would really appreciate any help. Thanks :)15:14
usr123Just asking, this might have caused issues while uninstalling zsh, so the best way to uninstall anything is purge and autoremove right?15:15
doreioutoftime: i see no reason for replacing apt with snap15:15
Berenoaulakh: 1. what version of Ubuntu are you on? 2. do you know what device it is? 3. are you on stock kernel?15:15
Berenusr123: You can do that. Removing zsh should be fine15:16
usr123Beren:  How do I remove?15:16
outoftimedorei: me too, but I'm using snap to install Skype for instance. There are lot of packages that do not have repos on launchpad and can not be installed with apt15:17
usr123Beren: sudo apt-get autoremove zsh?15:17
Berenusr123: yes. You can try it, it won't remove without prompting you15:17
xyz111I did at one point run `sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386` and then did `sudo apt-get install -f` - could these have messed things up on my 64 bit machine?15:18
usr123Beren: Thanks15:18
oaulakhBeren, i am on lubuntu 18.04 on Sony Vaio VPCEH25EN15:18
Berenoaulakh: When you say light, you mean the backlight isn't working?15:20
Berenoaulakh: can you post output of lspci?15:21
outoftimexyz111: you should be able to install and run x32 apps now, but you probably have to follow instruction on ubuntu's wiki15:24
oaulakhBeren, when i say light i mean to button light of wifi&bluetooth, here https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/QpKRqDQP9W/15:25
xyz111outoftime: to be honest, I don't even want wine on my system any more. I just want to go back to the state before I tried adding wine.15:25
outoftimexyz111: what do you need wine?15:26
outoftimexyz111: why?15:26
xyz111outoftime: I don't need it anymore - I was trying to use it for something, but found an alternate solution.15:26
xyz111outoftime: while installing wine32 something seems to have messed up my system15:26
xyz111in that google chrome and atom IDE have been uninstalled15:27
xyz111and php and mariadb no longer seem to start15:27
xyz111perhaps they have been uninstalled too15:27
outoftimexyz111: backup your commands `history | /tmp/history.log`15:27
outoftimexyz111: wrong command15:27
outoftimexyz111: there are just idea of what to do15:28
outoftimexyz111: then follow your commands and decline them one by one in oposite order15:28
xyz111I did this: `sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386` , then:  `sudo apt update && apt install wine32` then `sudo apt update`15:29
xyz111could they have messed things up?15:29
ioriaoaulakh, i don't see a wifi device; try with  sudo lshw -c Network15:30
* outoftime away15:31
oaulakhBeren, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/3xwgCm3Hy9/15:33
ioriaoaulakh, no wifi, sy15:34
oaulakhioria, i dunno what happened but before update my laptop was just fine :(15:35
ioriaoaulakh,  you can check dmesg ,but idk the correct keyword15:36
usr123I get bash: /home/detect/.local/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games:/usr/local/games:/snap/bin: No such file or directory. Is this bad?15:36
Berenusr123: bad PATH15:37
usr123Beren: How do I fix this?15:37
outoftimexyz111: this 3 commands are harmless15:37
ioriaoaulakh,  you can always use an adapter (you're already using one fot eth)15:37
Berencheck your bashrc, are you exporting something to PATH?15:37
oaulakhioria, but i'm using my phone but now i think i need wifi adaptor :(15:38
oaulakhioria, thanks for help anyways  :)15:38
ioriaoaulakh,  no prob ... do you rember the wifi adapter manufacturer ?15:38
ioria*remember15:38
oaulakhioria, athk something i think, i seen before in lspci15:39
usr123Beren: nope15:39
ioriaoaulakh,  yep.... your kernel ?  uname -r15:39
xyz111outoftime: I'm basically reinstalling everything as I can't quite understand what happened15:40
xyz111to be honest, I also did an update15:40
oaulakhioria, 4.15.0-33-generic15:40
xyz111outoftime: I updated the system just before attempting to install wine15:40
ioriaoaulakh,  current is 34 : sudo apt update  && sudo apt full-upgrade15:40
xyz111I think that may have done something funny as well15:41
outoftimexyz111: looks like proublems are because of system upgrade, not because of wine installation not even launch15:41
oaulakhioria, ok wait15:41
outoftimexyz111: *not even launched15:42
usr123Beren: I found this in .profile though. https://dpaste.de/ypjq15:43
outoftimeusr123: !paste15:43
usr123!paste15:43
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use https://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use https://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.15:43
usr123outoftime: I'm sorry?15:44
usr123outoftime: I should not paste that?15:44
outoftimeusr123: your pasts contain lots of numbers and that pastebin just makes thing worth15:45
usr123outoftime: Apologies.15:46
usr123Here is the new paste https://dpaste.de/bkMC15:46
Berenusr123: That looks like the default .profile. Should be fine15:47
Berenusr123: Check that list of paths, one of them is bad. Maybe your home folder one with .local15:47
cnnxI have lubuntu installed on a usb 2.0 stick I've been booting off of, but its slow so I want to move it to an ssd drive, is it possible to do this without re-installing and copying the files?15:59
cnnxthe usb is 32gb and the ssd is 60gb15:59
BluesKajcnnx, read up on the dd command, it's one option16:00
gpunkyou could tar/untar  but you ll have to reinstall thebootloader16:00
Berencnnx: You can use a tool like Clonezilla to disk to disk copy. Since the target is larger, You can use the -r option to use the additional space16:01
cnnxBeren: thanks I'll use that16:02
cnnxI think dd I will lose the extra space16:02
jordilaOn a fresh install, i want to stick to Firefox pre-Quantum release ... how does it can be accomplished ?16:02
outoftimecnnx: dd + gparted16:03
Berenjordila: maybe install from source, or firefox-esr packagr from mozillateam ppa16:04
oaulakhioria, just come here to say thanks, yes it worked with full upgrade16:04
outoftimecnnx: dd will copy your system to new device and gparted will extend partition to size of SSD16:04
oaulakhioria, thanks :)16:04
ioriaoaulakh,  ok, good16:04
ioriaoaulakh,  you're wellcome16:04
jordilaah... Beren ... so, Firefox-ESR is yet at pre-Quantum release ?16:04
oaulakhioria, i think it crashed with last kernel update16:04
ioriaoaulakh,  probably16:05
oaulakhioria, :) bye16:05
ioriaoaulakh,  bye16:05
cnnxso dd is easy.. dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb (that's it?) assuming bootingt from a live usb16:05
outoftimecnnx: you can add blocksize as well as progress16:07
* jordila umh... it seems that Firefox 60 is the latest pre-Quantum release, while Firefox-ESR is on v60 , AFAIK16:08
cnnxoutoftime: bs=512 is ok?16:08
outoftimecnnx: I'm usually using 8M16:10
legendary-acpHi16:11
cnnxi'm booting into clonezilla live usb16:11
cristian_cI've tried to blacklist a kernel module16:11
cnnxthen i can plug my other usb16:11
BluesKaj4M is a good comproise16:11
BluesKajoops compromise16:11
cnnxits ok im on a shell now16:12
cnnxdont need clonezilla16:12
cnnxok bs=409616:12
legendary-acpAnyone plz help me I need to switch my WiFi to 5GHz band. How to do it?16:12
cristian_cI've edited /etc/modprobe/blacklist.conf but it didn't work, also typing sudo update-initramfs -u after that16:12
cristian_cI've tried also to pur a blackliat in grub command line at runrime, in tqo different ways and that didn't work too16:13
cnnxdd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb bs=4096 | pv | dd of=/dev/null16:13
cnnxis this command ok?16:13
cristian_cI don't know how to effectively blacklist a module in 18.04, every boot I find the mosule loaded16:13
cristian_cAny ideas?16:13
cnnxno wait16:14
Berencnnx: cool. You can resize after dd to use your additional space16:14
outoftimeI have upgraded 14.04.5 to 16.04, after reboot I'm trying kernel 4.4 and I'm getting black screen and no reaction16:18
outoftimekernel 4.4.0-135-generic from grub menu16:19
ioriaoutoftime, amd/ati card ?16:20
outoftimeioria: yes, radeon16:20
cnnxwill the resulting ssd boot16:20
ioriaoutoftime,  dpkg -l | grep fglrx16:20
cnnxjust like the usb boots?16:20
outoftimeioria: how? I have black screen after grub16:21
outoftimeioria: liveusb?16:21
ioriaoutoftime,  recovery16:21
ioriaoutoftime,  Advanced Options -> recovery16:21
outoftimeioria: yes, I saw recovery mode, rebooting16:22
ioriaoutoftime,  or just use 'nomodeset' to boot the gui16:22
outoftimeI can see `dmesg` log now16:22
ioriaoutoftime,  dpkg -l | grep fglrx16:23
outoftimeioria: from root shell?16:23
ioriaoutoftime,  yes16:23
outoftimeioria: I have tried to pipe to termbin, got error, rewriting to pastebin by hands now16:25
ioriaoutoftime,  just tell if it's installed (ii)16:26
cesdoHello all16:28
cesdoHow to watch F4M in mpv or vlc?16:28
cesdoIt is video stream16:29
outoftimeioria: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/dQ7Pbmp968/16:29
cesdowithout drm16:29
ioriaoutoftime,   exit and resume   (it should boot with nomodeset iirc)16:29
outoftimeioria: "You are now goin to exit te recovery mode and continue the boot sequence. Please note that some graphic drivers require a full graphical boot and so will fail whn resuming from recovery. If that's the case, simply reboot from the login screen and the perform a standard boot.16:31
ioriaoutoftime,   it's ok16:31
outoftimeioria: I've got alt+f1 login request16:32
bulle  only when doing the release upgrade16:33
ioriaoutoftime,   'low graphic mode' ?16:33
bullehi, im using btrfs as root fs. And want to do a release upgrade. But ubuntu then automaticly creates a bunch och snapshots ( three of them ) and then i run out of disk space and the upgrade failes. How do i disable this ? i do not have apt-btrfs-snapshot installed. And i dont get these snapshots when just using apt, only when doing the release upgrade16:33
outoftimeioria: tty116:33
ioriaoutoftime,  can you login ?16:33
outoftimeioria: done16:33
outoftimeioria: already16:34
ioriaoutoftime,  sudo apt-get update16:34
outoftimeioria: done16:35
outoftimeioria: upgrade?16:35
ioriaoutoftime,  ps -A | grep lightdm16:35
outoftimeioria: absent16:36
outoftimeioria: start service?16:36
ioriaoutoftime,   sudo lshw -c Video | nc termbin.com 999916:36
outoftimeioria: sudo: lshw: command not found16:37
ioriaoutoftime,   which lshw16:38
compdocsudo with the :16:38
outoftimeioria: empty16:38
ioriaoutoftime,   uname -r16:39
outoftimeioria: 4.4.0-135-generic16:39
ioriaoutoftime,  sudo apt full-upgrade16:39
outoftimeioria: done, but nothing seems to be installed16:40
outoftimeioria: I have autoremove messege, that all16:41
ioriaoutoftime,   lspci -k | grep -EA2 'VGA|3D' | nc termbin.com 999916:41
outoftimeioria: http://termbin.com/sgsk16:42
ioriaoutoftime,   dpkg -l | grep lshw  | nc termbin.com 999916:43
outoftimeioria: my video card is HD 670G2 - 1Gb16:43
ioriaoutoftime, i got it16:43
ioriaoutoftime,   dpkg -l | grep lshw  | nc termbin.com 999916:43
outoftimeioria: empty16:43
ioriaoutoftime,   sudo apt-get purge fglrx*   (note the *)16:44
outoftimeioria: got 2 warnings, but it is done16:46
ioriaoutoftime,   sudo apt autoremove --purge16:46
Apachezblackflow: it woulndt affect v6 users, they will still get AAAA16:47
Apachezbut the delivery is more reliable with that option set16:47
outoftimeioria: done16:47
ioriaoutoftime,   ok, now try to reboot; if you got a blank screen after grub, wait a minute and try to open a console  (ctrl+alt+f1, or f2)16:48
outoftimeioria: I have tried ctrl+alt+f1 before16:49
ioriaoutoftime,   f2 and so on16:50
outoftimeioria: no, only f1 and f7, f7 is where is gui is usually16:50
ioriaoutoftime,   have you rebooted ?16:50
outoftimeioria: black screen for now16:51
outoftimeioria: i'll wait a bit more16:51
outoftimeioria: no response16:54
ioriaoutoftime,   ok, you know how to boot with nomodeset ?16:55
outoftimeioria: do not remember, I did it once with guide nearby16:55
ioriaoutoftime,   https://www.dell.com/support/article/it/it/itbsdt1/sln306327/manual-nomodeset-kernel-boot-line-option-for-linux-booting?lang=en16:56
outoftimeioria: I have purple screen and ubuntu logo with loaging16:59
BeforeClickwtf is loaging17:01
outoftimeBeforeClick: typo17:01
BeforeClickoh ok17:01
ioriaoutoftime,  if you can't boot with nomodeset,i'd start looking at logs17:01
outoftimeioria: yes, booting is looooong17:02
BeforeClickis your disk ok?17:02
outoftimeioria: looks like that is why I can not switch to tty117:02
outoftimeBeforeClick: not sure, but It should be ok17:03
ioriaoutoftime,  wait a bit longer...  you did an upstart -> systemd transition , probably the worst17:03
outoftimeBeforeClick: I have 14.04.5 that was not able to upgrade packages that is why I decided to upgrade ubuntu17:03
outoftimeioria: I can see (upstart) mode in grub menu17:04
BeforeClickcheck whether your disk is working correctly and isn't full17:04
ioriaoutoftime,  maybe you should have told that before17:04
outoftimeBeforeClick: it is not full17:04
ioriaoutoftime, about not being able to upgrade packages, i mean17:05
outoftimeioria: I have thought that it is because 14 is old one...17:05
BeforeClickI still suspect a disk or permission issue17:05
ioriaoutoftime, 14.04 is till well supported until '1917:06
ioria*s17:06
outoftimeI have liveusb with 16.04 to check storage capasity, etc.17:06
* outoftime still loading17:07
BeforeClickyou could use a live image and modify your /etc/default/grub17:07
BeforeClickand add GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="text"17:07
outoftimebtw, I saw worning or error about swap17:08
ioriaoutoftime, are you sure you correctly set the parameter ?17:08
BeforeClickthat should make it boot into cli17:08
outoftimeioria: yes, I have verified it few times17:08
outoftimeBeforeClick: will it show boot progress in cli mode?17:09
BeforeClickand add GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="text"17:09
BeforeClickthere is also a line that says quiet, just comment that out17:10
ioriaoutoftime, we can try: reboot, where you added nomodeset, remove 'quiet splash' and add 'text'17:11
outoftimeBeforeClick: so if I'll comment `quiet` that I'll see step where boot stops?17:11
BeforeClicktry it :)17:11
* outoftime on my way17:11
outoftimeioria: I suppose nomodeset is still required17:11
ioriaoutoftime, i guess so17:12
ioriaoutoftime, after press F10 or ctrl+x17:12
* outoftime waiting17:13
outoftimeioria: no ubuntu logo apears this time17:15
ioriaoutoftime, that's normal17:15
outoftimeioria: 2 mins since I wrote "waiting" and still blank screen17:16
BeforeClickoutoftime: next time you reboot can you use in GRUB the line with "more option for ubuntu" and use the second latest entry?17:17
outoftimeBeforeClick: it is 3.3 kernel17:17
outoftimeBeforeClick: from 14.04.517:17
BeforeClickI don't care that test is to see whether your old kernel boots17:17
BeforeClickfucking KC17:17
lotus|NUCBeforeClick: can you please mind your language here17:18
ioriaoutoftime, you mean 3.13 ?17:18
BeforeClickyes I stand corrected17:18
BeforeClickbleepin KC17:18
outoftimeioria: yes, should be, not sure17:19
grkblood13i have a RAID5 made up of 4 drives that wont come up after a power outage. cat /proc/mdstat outputs 'md1: inactive sda1[0](S) sdc1[1](S) sdc1[2](S) sdd1[3](S)'. How do I tell which drive is bad?17:19
BeforeClickis suspect that at least two are bad else it should boot17:19
grkblood13is there a way to tell?17:20
ioriaoutoftime, i guess you removed something, trying to fix your previous issues17:20
outoftimeBeforeClick: if your advice will help, you can write in PM anythig you want (:17:20
outoftimeioria: during upgrade there was about 80+ packages to remove17:21
ioriaoutoftime, it's not that; lightdm not running and default pkgs like lshw not installed17:21
BeforeClickoutoftime: :) I do that anyway but it doesn't hurt to be courteous when you bump into rules every now and then17:21
outoftimeioria: and close number of outdated packages that should be deleted17:21
=== arunkumar413_ is now known as arunkumar413
BeforeClickgrkblood13: sorry that isn't anything I've done in years and I don't want to give you any advise in case that damages another disk17:22
outoftimeioria: I'll switch to recovery mode to find out is my home is encrypted, too long loading17:23
ioriaoutoftime, ok17:23
outoftimeioria: btw, what if remove only quiet without splash?17:24
ioriaoutoftime, you need to remove both17:24
outoftimeioria: second latest boot option for ubuntu - 3.11.0-15-generic (upstart)17:25
ioriaoutoftime, 3.11 ???17:25
outoftimeioria: second option is 4.4.0-135-generic (upstart)17:25
ioriaoutoftime, not an ubuntu kernel17:25
ioriaoutoftime, 3.11 it's not a trusty kernel17:26
outoftimeioria: 3.11 could be from 13.1017:26
outoftimeioria: I have started using ubuntu since 13.10 it was my first machine17:26
ioriaoutoftime, and why it's still there, no sense17:27
outoftimelist of kernels in grub: 4.4.0-135, 3.13.0-37, 3.11.0-1517:28
BeforeClickoutoftime: have you done a fresh install since this first install?17:28
outoftimeBeforeClick: I have reinstalled lots of OSes since that time.. I just do not remember.17:29
BeforeClickupdated or reinstalled?17:29
outoftimeBeforeClick: But I know that 16.04 had problems with drivers that I have configured for 14.04 and I have not touched this machine a long time, not apt ugrades, etc.17:30
NSA_SpyHello world! I want to mount a usb Ubuntu root system on another machine but when I mount the casper-rw file all it has is a lost+found folder.17:30
NSA_SpyMy question is: Where is the try Ubuntu root system on the usb?17:31
outoftimeBeforeClick: I have reinstalled my last on dev machine because of troubles, lots of troubles, also made some improvements as I added SSD (changing fstab as well)17:31
=== BeforeClick is now known as BeforeClick_away
ioriaoutoftime, reboot in Recovery Mode , resume and open a console17:33
outoftimeioria: done17:34
ioriaoutoftime, sudo service lightdm restart17:34
outoftimeioria: "Job for lightdm.service failed because the control process exited with error code. See "systedmctl status lightdm.service" and "jurcnalctl -xe" for details17:36
outoftimeioria: sorry for typo, params are ok, those names can be guessed easy17:38
outoftimeioria: http://termbin.com/z70i17:39
outoftimeioria: http://termbin.com/3jih17:39
ioriaoutoftime,  do you have other display mangers installed ?17:42
outoftimeioria: I have istalled gdm on some machine manually, not sure where and when. This one doesn't look like it.17:44
ioriaoutoftime,  sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm17:44
outoftimeioria: done17:45
ioriaoutoftime,  ls -l ~/.Xauthority17:45
outoftimeioria: "insserv: warning: script 'ccpd' missing LSB tags and overrides17:46
ioriaoutoftime,  it's borked17:46
outoftimeioria: http://termbin.com/hzgm17:46
outoftimeioria: it looks like binary file17:47
ioriaoutoftime,  for me it's a borked system; but we can try to boot in text mode :   sudo systemctl set-default multi-user.target     and reboot17:49
outoftimeioria: done, black screen17:51
outoftimeioria: looks like solution is fresh install with same home directory17:53
ioriaoutoftime, well, you can also do-release-upgrade to 18.0417:53
outoftimeioria: yes, but from recovery mode only17:53
outoftimeioria: at least I can try17:54
outoftimeioria: we are chating since 19:2017:55
outoftimeioria: almove 1 hour and 40 mins17:55
outoftime*almost17:55
ioriaoutoftime, from recovery-> resume you can try to install --reinstall ubuntu-minimal  and install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop17:56
outoftimeioria: in one go or two different?17:57
ioriaoutoftime, one by one17:57
outoftimeioria: desktop require 334 packages to install...17:59
ioriaoutoftime, what ?17:59
outoftimeioria: on my way,46%17:59
ioriaoutoftime, you were using unity on 14.04, right ?17:59
outoftimeioria: yes17:59
ioriaoutoftime, puzzled; we did a full-upgrade before18:00
outoftimeioria: full-upgrade that doesn't install anything18:01
ioriaii know18:01
lotus|NUCoutoftime: pastebin inxi -Fr please18:05
outoftimelotus|NUC: what?18:06
lotus|NUCoutoftime: to see some info about your system18:06
outoftimeioria: reinstalling 'ubuntu-desktop' right now18:07
outoftimelotus|NUC: reinstalling 'ubuntu-desktop' right now18:07
Rboreal_FripperyHello, I am looking for a software for my Mother to help her record her piano playing video and audio to post online. She has a USB webcam and uses the built-in audio for input mic. We have tried to troubleshoot guvcview for over a month now with constant issues. (Audio desync, video file does not navigate, program freezes and stops recording after about 20 minutes, etc) I am looking for any alternative to suggest to her because we are both18:07
Rboreal_Fripperypretty untrusting of guvcview at this point. Does anyone have any suggestions?18:07
ioriaoutoftime, ok, the i suggest to install the hwe18:07
ioria*then18:07
outoftimeioria: "Errors were encountererd while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/libqtcore4_4%3a4.8.7+dfsg-5ubuntu2_amd64.deb18:09
outoftimeioria: and one more: sni-qt_0.2.7+16.04.20170217.1-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb18:10
pc_magasGreedings community I wave this following question why on Unity/KDE/GMOME etc etc I can shutdown the computer without root access whilst on terminal the shutdown command needs root access?18:10
ioria!info libqtcore4 xenial18:10
ubottulibqtcore4 (source: qt4-x11): Qt 4 core module. In component main, is optional. Version 4:4.8.7+dfsg-5ubuntu2 (xenial), package size 1579 kB, installed size 4942 kB18:10
outoftimelotus|NUC: looks like I have no inxi18:10
ioriaoutoftime,  apt-cache policy libqtcore4  | termbin.nc 999918:12
outoftime8dog18:12
ioriaoutoftime,  apt-cache policy libqtcore4  | termbin.com 999918:13
ioriasorry18:13
outoftimeioria: http://termbin.com/8dog18:13
ioriaoutoftime,  sudo apt clean && sudo apt autoclean18:14
outoftimeioria: done18:15
ioriaoutoftime,  sudo apt update && sudo apt install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop18:15
ioriabrb in 10 min18:16
outoftimeioria: E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).18:16
ioriado it18:17
ztychrHello. I just spilled a little water on my laptop. Wiped it off, and now a voice reads out loud LITERALLY everything. Every key i press and every program I open. While having quite a laugh, I'd really like to turn this guy off now. Can anyone help?18:17
NSA_SpyHello! I want to mount a usb Ubuntu root system on another machine but when I mount the casper-rw file all it has is a lost+found folder.18:17
NSA_SpyMy question is: Where is the try Ubuntu root system on the usb?18:17
outoftimeioria: wanted to install same libqtcore4 but same error occurs as during ubuntu-desktop reinstall18:18
pmeijer85hello, is there any way to enable ssh access when my server drops in emergency mode ?18:23
gpunkyou ll have to start networking and sshd manually18:26
pmeijer85aw that to bad, no way to auto enable starting it?18:27
outoftimepmeijer85: auto turn on machine of software?18:28
ioriaoutoftime,  what error exactly ?18:31
outoftimeioria: how to redirect error stream to | nc termbin ?18:31
ioriaoutoftime,  commad  | nc termbin 999918:32
ioriaoutoftime,  commad  | nc termbin.com  999918:32
outoftimeioria: http://termbin.com/h0d318:32
ioriaoutoftime,  what command you issued ?18:33
AkegataHi, I upgraded my thinkpad to 18.04 the other day. After the upgrade, the synaptics drivers won't load anymore. When I run 18.04 from a live usb I can get synaptics to work though, but I cannot figure out what's blocking it on my regular install. Any ideas?18:33
ioriaoutoftime, and you see the  '332 not fully installed' ?18:34
outoftimeioria: http://termbin.com/6wn718:34
outoftimeioria: yes, now I see it.18:35
ioriaoutoftime, ok, but what was the cmd you typed to get that output ?18:35
outoftimeioria: added -y to autoconfirm yes18:36
ioriaoutoftime, i don't get you18:36
outoftimeioria: `sudo apt-get -f -y install | nc termbin.com 9999`18:37
ioriaok18:37
ioriaoutoftime,   sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite  /var/cache/apt/archives/libqtcore4_4%3a4.8.7+dfsg-5ubuntu2_amd64.deb18:38
outoftimeioria: dpkg: error processing arcive <path> (--install): cannot access arcive: No such file or directory Errors were ecrountered while processing: <path>18:42
ioriaoutoftime,  you mistyped , try again please18:43
outoftimeioria: corrected18:43
ioriaoutoftime,  and ?18:44
outoftimeioria: dpkg: error processing package libqtcore4:amd64 (--install): dependency problems - leaving unconfigured18:45
ioriaoutoftime,  sudo apt-get -f install18:45
outoftimeioria: dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of libqtcore4:amd64: libqtcore4:amd64 depends on qtcore4_l10n; however: Package qtcore4_l10n is not configured yet18:45
outoftimeioria: should I still run -f install?18:46
ioriaoutoftime,  yes18:46
outoftimeioria: haven't noticed any warnings/errors18:50
outoftimeioria: do you know how to scroll up in tty mode?18:51
outoftimeioria: I saw line "Setting up ubuntu-desktop.."18:51
ioriaoutoftime,  just run sudo apt install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop   again and check the errors18:52
outoftimeioria: there are autoremove message18:53
outoftimeioria: no erros/warnings18:53
ioriaoutoftime,  we don't care about autoremove unless your disk is full : check with   df -h18:53
outoftimeioria: 17G free18:54
ioriaoutoftime,  can you paste the outputs on termbin.com18:54
outoftimeioria: http://termbin.com/6f1s18:55
ioriaoutoftime,  sudo dpkg --configure -a18:55
outoftimeioria: http://termbin.com/wnvh18:55
outoftimeioria: no output for this command18:56
ioriaoutoftime,  good18:56
ioriaoutoftime,  sudo reboot; you'll a text boot, no gui18:56
ioria*have18:56
outoftimeioria: black screen18:58
ioriaoutoftime,  you don't even get the bootstrap ?18:59
outoftimeioria: text from grub disapeared, and after few seconds it turns black18:59
ioriaoutoftime,  ctrl+alt +f119:00
outoftimeioria: it is too black, looks like pixel hightlight is not working19:00
outoftimeioria: not response19:00
outoftime*no response19:01
ioriaoutoftime,  we can try with the hwe; recovery -> resume19:03
outoftimeioria: I'm in19:04
ioriaoutoftime,  udo apt-get install --install-recommends linux-generic-hwe-16.04 xserver-xorg-hwe-16.0419:05
ioria*s19:05
outoftimeioria: 26 newly installed, 17 to remove19:06
ioriaok19:06
outoftimeioria: some dependecies are removed anyway...19:07
outoftimeioria: 4.15.0-34 added19:09
ioriayes19:09
outoftimeioria: done19:10
ioriaoutoftime,  cat /etc/default/grub | nc termbin.com 999919:10
outoftimeioria: http://termbin.com/bcs819:11
destinydrivenHey guys, I'm trying to upgrade nginx to 1.15.3 on xenial so I run sudo add-apt-repository ppa:nginx/development to get the mainline version.   When I do sudo apt update . . . I'm not seeing any updates. I do see the new nginx-ubuntu-development-xenial.list in /etc/apt/sources.list.d directory however19:11
destinydrivenAm I missing a step or something?19:11
destinydrivenI aslo tried removing nginx - sudo apt remove nginx and re-installing it but I get the same 1.14.0 version19:12
outoftimedestinydriven: I'm using NVM19:12
ioriaoutoftime,  sudo apt autoremove --purge19:12
destinydrivenNVM?19:12
destinydrivenioria, ok let me try this19:13
outoftimedestinydriven: https://github.com/creationix/nvm19:13
ioriadestinydriven, not for you19:13
destinydrivenioria, ok noted19:14
outoftimeioria: removed 3 packages19:14
ioriaoutoftime,  ok19:14
destinydrivenoutoftime, node version manager?19:14
outoftimedestinydriven: you got the link19:14
destinydrivenYes but I don't see how it's relevant to me19:15
ioriaoutoftime,  then   sudo systemctl set-default graphical.target19:15
destinydrivenI want to update nginx not node19:15
outoftimedestinydriven: sorry, it is almost night19:15
outoftimeioria: done19:16
ioriaoutoftime,  reboot19:16
outoftimeioria: in recovery?19:16
outoftimedestinydriven: have you tried to specify version?19:16
ioriaoutoftime,  nope, sudo reboot19:16
destinydrivenoutoftime, no I haven't19:17
outoftimeioria: boot again in recovery mode?19:17
outoftimedestinydriven: try to install with verion specification19:17
ioriaoutoftime, i said: sudo reboot19:17
destinydrivenoutoftime, ok let me try this19:17
outoftimeioria: done19:17
outoftimeioria: I'm in grub19:17
arTeedestinydriven, simple apt update, apt dist-upgrade?19:18
ioriaoutoftime, wait the timeout19:18
outoftimearTee: dist-upgrade? Why?19:18
destinydrivenarTee, that's what I have been trying and I get 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.19:18
destinydrivenYes I did read that list-upgrade can be dangerous19:19
destinydrivendist*19:19
outoftimedestinydriven: you can check update settings, there should be allow development versions or so19:19
outoftimeioria: I see login screen19:19
arTeedestinydriven, did you import the signing key?19:19
ioriaoutoftime, deo gratias19:19
destinydrivenarTee, I did19:20
outoftimeioria: 2 too man19:20
arTeeoutoftime, I'm used to using dist-upgrade :-)19:20
destinydrivenwget https://nginx.org/keys/nginx_signing.key -O - | sudo apt-key add -19:20
outoftimeioria: I can see error message before unity loaded19:20
arTeedestinydriven, what version of ubuntu are you running?19:20
destinydriven16.0419:20
ioriaoutoftime, let me see19:20
outoftimeioria: just MessageBox with Ok button, have to relog to show you19:21
outoftimeioria: or maybe not19:21
ioriaoutoftime, what ?  check /var/crash19:22
arTeedestinydriven, naaah... you need to import keys for the ppa I guess...19:22
outoftimeioria: first is about cupsd19:22
FortKnightdestinydriven: did you apt update?19:22
arTeedestinydriven, but add-apt-repository should take care of that19:23
destinydrivenFortKnight, yup. I did all the seemingly basic things19:23
ioriaoutoftime,   la -al  /var/crash19:23
ioriaoutoftime,   ls -al  /var/crash19:23
arTeedestinydriven, have you tried turning it off and on again? ;-) (joke)19:23
destinydrivenI should add that is is on a digital ocean LEMP one-click installation19:23
outoftimeioria: 3 files there19:24
destinydrivenIf that helps.19:24
ioriaoutoftime,   cd /var/crash19:24
destinydrivenI did the same steps on my local vagrant box and everything went fine19:24
outoftimeioria: libqtcore4.0.crash sni-qt.-.crash. _sr_sbin_cupsd.0.crash19:24
ioriaoutoftime,   cd /var/crash19:24
arTeedestinydriven, have you tried running apt reinstall nginx=1.15.0 or similar?19:24
destinydrivenarTee, sudo reboot now . .  uh huh19:24
destinydrivenarTee, not yet19:24
outoftimeioria: http://termbin.com/8gdi19:25
ioriaoutoftime,   i know    cd /var/crash19:25
outoftimeioria: done19:25
ioriaoutoftime,   pwd19:25
destinydrivenReinstall is an invalid operation19:26
outoftimeioria: just as you sad, /var/crash19:26
ioriaoutoftime,  sudo rm -rif *19:26
destinydrivenOk I think I will give this a break and try in the morning19:26
outoftimeioria: done19:26
ioriaoutoftime, logout login19:26
arTeedestinydriven, apt install nginx=1.15.0 then19:28
outoftimeioria: "drm redeon resume error" where during loggin out19:28
arTeedestinydriven, gn19:28
giggybyteis there any way to see logs when trying to boot from an Ubuntu usb? currently the logo just spins forever and I'd like to find out why19:28
ioriaoutoftime,  a moment please19:28
giggybytesame behavior on try without installing and install19:28
outoftimeioria:  no crashes apears additionally19:28
destinydrivenarTee, E: Version '1.15.0' for 'nginx' was not found19:28
outoftimeioria: maybe I have to restart to reproduce them19:29
outoftimeioria: also desktop appeared faster than first time19:29
ioriaoutoftime, ok, reboot19:31
outoftimegiggybyte: have you choose "Try" button instead of "Install"?19:31
giggybyteyeah, I've gone both ways19:31
outoftimegiggybyte: how long did you wait for it?19:32
giggybyteabout five minutes19:32
outoftimegiggybyte: how do you made liveusb?19:32
giggybytedd if=file.iso of=/dev/sdc bs=4M status=progress19:33
outoftimeioria: I've got lots of "radeon" errors...19:34
outoftimeioria: on shutdown19:34
ioriaoutoftime, try to login19:34
outoftimegiggybyte: sorry, never had problems with linux disto written with dd19:36
outoftimeioria: strange, no crashes19:37
ioriaoutoftime, ok,   sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade19:37
outoftimeioria: I mean it is good19:37
ioriaoutoftime, do the upgrade it will be '0' if we are good19:38
outoftimeioria: done, clean19:38
outoftimeioria: 0 errors/warnings19:38
ioriaoutoftime, very good19:39
giggybytequick question, I'm gonna add nomodeset, does it go before or after "---" at the end of the "quiet splash" line?19:39
outoftimegiggybyte: https://www.dell.com/support/article/ua/ru/uabsdt1/sln306327/manual-nomodeset-kernel-boot-line-option-for-linux-booting?lang=en19:39
giggybytethanks19:40
outoftimegiggybyte: link provided by ioria19:40
outoftimeioria: that you for help with upgrading to 16.0419:41
outoftimeioria: how do you think is it safe to upgrade to 18.04?19:41
outoftimeioria: or I should at least try to fix radeon troubles?19:41
ioriaoutoftime, in my opinion; your system was already inconsistent; so you got it but a fresh install would be better19:42
mustmodifyAfter upgrading to 18.04, I can't restart networking. https://gist.github.com/mustmodify/531e7d779ffcba336f7b53957d017f2619:45
mustmodifyAny thoughts about what's wrong? The previous /etc/network/interfaces file also does not work, but at least I know what it was. :) And the new one actually allows me to startup and connect locally, but I can't access the net, which is why I tried to edit it by adding dns-nameservers... but that didn't work so I had to comment it out.19:46
mustmodifyping19:49
outoftimemustmodify: wait, I can not help you, you should wait for answer and ask again time to time19:51
mustmodifysure. I just wanted to make sure my messages were going out. This IRC client isn't the best. :)19:51
outoftimemustmodify: I'm using irssi or web.freenode from browser, never had problems19:54
Dan0maNoddly enough, hexchat works fine as well19:58
Dan0maNeven when bouncing through znc19:58
outoftimeDan0maN: As vim lover, irssi is best choice if I have access to it.20:00
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Welastevilhi ubuntu people!20:19
Welastevilsome news about ubuntu new version?20:20
hggdhWelastevil: which one? 18.04, or (the in-deveolpment) 18.10?20:20
Welastevil18.1020:20
Welastevilvery sad with 18.04 because compiz doesnt wor anymore!!!!20:21
Welastevilthats so so sad...20:21
hggdhWelastevil: it is going good, about month to be released. #ubuntu+1 is the channel for it20:21
Welastevilthe best feature was that!20:21
mustmodifyWelastevil: I just installed 18.04. Non-fantastic experience.20:21
Welastevilneither20:22
hggdhWelastevil, mustmodify: anyway, this is not the channel for opinions.20:22
Welastevilok...20:23
Welasteviljus asked.20:23
outoftimeWelastevil: hate compiz because of 100% cpu load...20:29
mustmodifyI need help rebuilding my network configuration.20:31
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outoftimemustmodify: I had my EDID corrupted and I waited about 1.5 days for help. Then 2 days of work and it has been done. Also details will help too. Not too much, but to understand what you want.20:49
CarlFKoutoftime: EDID corrupted?  curious what that means20:53
okovkois there anything special about configuring postfix as send only mail client on ubuntu running in a vm>20:56
outoftimeCarlFK: That monitor not working right now, I have to replace high frequency condencer, maybe there are some more elements failed, but at least one. I suppose it was the problem, because EDID sequence was corrupted only in header20:56
okovkoi got msmtp working instantly, but postfix won't work and i've tried like five different guides20:57
outoftimeCarlFK: PM20:58
SimonNLand I was thinking there was a chip broke20:58
madLyfeso i renamed a filesystem and the drive mounts in the hidden state now..20:59
madLyfehttps://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/Rh4EVhAL/image.png21:01
madLyfeactually i have another internal drive that is mounted and hidden as well.21:02
madLyfeso its probably not because i renamed the filesystem on one drive.21:03
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fijidrummerboiiHey guys; this may be unrelated but I want to install Ubuntu on a chromebook without Crouton or ChrUbuntu22:47
fijidrummerboiiCan anyone help me with that? Like, I need a partition assistant for Chromebooks22:47
FortKnightwhy can't you create installation media and boot from it and install ?22:56
FortKnightletting the installer automatically / auto pilot  create partitions22:56
kk4ewtfreedom?22:59
kk4ewtsome people want to dual boot others do not22:59
leftyfbFortKnight: you can23:02
leftyfbFortKnight: it's called preseeding23:02
gmhAnyone that can help me figure out VPN not connecting. L2TP / ipsec. /w me - Ubuntu 18.0423:17
jason0597gmh: what's the issue?23:40
CarlFKim trying to make a screen shot of a gui app window that shows the mouse pointing at a menu option ...23:41
CarlFKideally using the import command23:41
gmhjason0597: Can't connect and I have no idea why :P23:41
FortKnightgmh: are you chatting from the computer right now?23:42
gmhssh to server, but yeah ssh connection is on computer23:43
gmhTrying to find out which phas1 / 2 algorithms I should use23:43
FortKnightgmh: in terminal>  journalctl|grep ovp|nc termbin.com 999923:44
FortKnightgmh: share url/link here...if you do not get a url/link...say so23:44
gmhhttps://pastebin.com/AAEGBErj23:46
gmhThat is the output of querying vpn server for IKEv1 algorithm proposals from https://github.com/nm-l2tp/network-manager-l2tp/wiki/Known-Issues#querying-vpn-server-for-supported-ipsec-ikev1-ciphers23:46
FortKnightgmh: that's not what i asked for ...but if you wanna independently freestyle...good luck23:47
gmhI need to know what to put in phase 1 and phase 2 algorithm23:47
FortKnightgmh: who is your vpn provider?23:48
gmhprivate vpn at work23:48
FortKnightgmh: you should probably consult corporate IT / help desk for assistance tele working23:48
gmhLack of linux experience. Works fine on windows :)23:49
FortKnightoh corp IT / help desk straight up told you they don't/ won't support Linux@work?23:49
gmh They said they have no experience with it, but if I have issues connecting from Windows they could debug.23:50
outoftimeCarlFK: I'm using shutter to make such screenshots23:50
gmhI've tried to mimmick the Windows settings tho enabling CHAP and MSCHAPv2, same pre-shared key ofc.23:52
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gmhI am just stuck at trying to figure out this phase1 and phase2 algorithm part23:53
gmhNot that querying the vpn servered helped me much as I dont understand the result I got :P23:53
CarlFKoutoftime: shutter looks pretty cool - any idea how I get it to grab the window when I have a drop down menu selected ?23:59

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